




From: jpl@WWW.BARCLAB.COM
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:49:01 +0200
Subject: Re: assembly help

Sah5234 wrote:

> ... I also need some help on the assembly of the
> 90-unit Sonobe if there is one. Thanks!!
>
> Stephen

As a matter of fact, there is one: the dodecahedron, as Valerie
already mentioned. In fact, your mail prompted me to finish my
own copy of it yesterday evening. (Cost me some sleep in the bargain,
too.)

The Sonobe form of the dodecahedron consists of 12 groupings
of 5 triangular pyramids (the 12 faces). At the corners, where
3 faces meet, you get 6 of those triangular pyramids in a not-quite-
flat hexagon.

I don't have access to the fabled table from Origami for the
Connoisseur, but I've been playing around a bit with possible
Sonobe constructs myself. (Reinventing the fire, as it were. I
haven't constructed all of these, so I'm not 100 % sure there
isn't some geometrically impossible stuff in the list ...)

2       Coaster/cushion
3       Takahashi's jewel
6       cube/tetrahedron
9       'stellated triangle' == double tetrahedron == 'double cube'
12      octahedron == 'stellated square' == trigonal antiprism
15      'stellated pentagon'
18      'stellated hexagon'
21      trigonal prism
24      tetragonal antiprism
        'snake'
30      icosahedron == pentagonal antiprism
36      hexagonal antiprism
        tetragonal prism == cube
42      truncated tetrahedron
45      pentagonal prism
48      cuboctahedron
54      hexagonal prism
84      snub cube
90      dodecahedron
120     icosidodecahedron
        rhombicuboctahedron
270     truncated icosahedron

etc, etc.

I can extend the range a bit if I replace a pyramid (e.g. the top
and bottom of a triangular prism or antiprism) with a set of three
pyramids. The double cube could be considered as a jewel expanded
in that manner.

Another way to add combinations is to add stages to a prism. For
instance, a triple stage hexagonal antiprism would consist of a
hexagonal top and bottom (each six pyramids), separated by three
rings of 12 pyramids each, for a total of 72 units.

Farfetched? You bet. The reason I mention all this, though, is
that there are certain combinations I can't seem to attain. I was
delighted when I found a 39 unit construction, since that seemed
(to my not-fully-mathematical mind) a very implausible number.
On the other hand, I still can't come up with a geometry for
33 units, or 51, or 66, or 69, ... ? Does OftC mention any? Most
of you modular folders must have gone through the same analysis,
and I guess I'm curious whether I missed something obvious.

Jurgen
--
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Tel +32 9 220 49 81  Fax +32 9 221 85 17      qu'une heure durant
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From: Kenny1414 <Kenny1414@AOL.COM>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:32:38 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Origami in Mad magazine, Guiseppe Baggi's sculptures

In a message dated 98-04-21 18:28:21 EDT, you write:

> Oh yeah... My question. What do all the abbreviations for type mean?
>
>  By the way if anyone is interested Mad magazine has it's own web page:
>  http://www.dccomics.com/mad/
>
>  Along with instructions for their own form of paperfolding:
>  http://www.dccomics.com/mad/library.html#fold

Oops, <blush>, sorry, didn't mean to be so cryptic.
Here's part of the key to the abbreviations I used.

        GB      = Guiseppe Baggi (famous scuptor & origamist)
        O       = Origami
        PMO     = Paper Money Origami (usually illustrating a subscription ad)
        WS      = Wire Sculpture (usually illustrating a subscription ad)
        TS      = Household Tools Sculpture (usually illustrating a
     subscription ad)

Thanks for the directions to the websites.
I had no idea DC had acquired Mad. *sigh*.

Aloha,
kenny1414@aol.com (Kenneth M. Kawamura)





From: anne roberts <aroberts@FROGNET.NET>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:34:18 -0400
Subject: [Fwd: Origami]

I thought this was a fascinating idea for teaching origami.  The use of
a overhead and wax paper.

It's worth the expense I agree. The overhead is a great tool and often
overlooked. My sons teacher used it for teaching phonics plus writing.
they really understood once they all made their marks in unison.

sandra

Sears, Ellen wrote:
>
> If you really want to have a stress free time - I would invest in the
> paper.
>
> For the demo - if you have an overhead - use sheets of waxed paper.  The
> students can fold with you, the folds are easy to see (you can see
> through several folds of waxed paper).
>
> Key Curriculum Press has it, one thousand sheets for $6.00.  I have used
> it for geometry exploration, it may bee too small for a whole project,
> but I would say you could practice folds with it.  (Their package of
> oragami paper, 400 6" sheets, is $17.95)
>
> Are you doing individual pieces, or unit oragami? That would make a
> difference, too.
> Ellen
>





From: Elizabeth George <emgeorge@MSN.COM>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:42:52 -0400
Subject: Re: New Origami Webpage

... 20 points
>for identifying the origami featured in my "attempt" at an animated gif

This bears a strong resemblance to my first try at the Sea Anemone from Sea
Amemone with Clown Fish... (the diagrams make provision for doing the two
pieces separately until you're up to speed), looks like it has the right
number of 'arms' (if I'm way off the mark, please don't take offense).

When I finally gave up on the aforementioned first try and while I was
explaining to my child that the paper had become a little 'fatigued', he
straightened me out by saying,
"Fatigued? That's what I call 'ripped'!"





From: Karen Reeds <reeds@OPENIX.COM>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:42:51 -0100
Subject: Origami sighting

Mother Goose & Grimm comic strip in this morning's paper (Newark
Star-Ledger) --dog complains "Boy...Using the newspaper used to be so much
easier....Before she got into origami "--  looks ruefully at fish, rooster,
flapping bird (sort of--has broad, split tail).
Karen
reeds@openix.com

PS The Origami USA newsletter just arrived--the double issue is terrific,
especially the piece by Michael Kanarek, "Origami: An Iterative Process, "
whose technical-sounding title disguises an extraordinary personal story.





From: rroos@alleg.edu
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:13:39 -0400
Subject:
PP-Warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line
Original-Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.146.2)

I don't recall seeing this mentioned here; my apologies if this is a repeat
posting.

The summer preview 1998 edition of the "Signals" mail-order catalog (address
below) has the following item advertised on page 30 (if you're in a hurry,
skip to the price at the bottom!):

        ORIGAMI SHIRT AND PANTS
        Inspired by the ancient Japanese art of origami--folding
        paper squares into elaborate shapes of animals and objects
        --this shirt will complement your artistic spirit.
        Embellished with retro fabric patches in a variety of
        patterns and styles, stamped with origami figures down
        the front, the oversized rayon and cotton shirt has a
        flattering banded collar, long sleeves, and a loose,
        flowing fit. Coordinating rayon straight-legged pants
        have an elastic waist. Both are made in the U.S.A. in
        women's sizes S/M(8-10) and M/L(12-14).
                Shirt: #61929  $169.00
                Pants: #61930   $79.00
                Buy both pieces and save $5.00

Signals is a gift catalog "for fans and friends of public television"
published by the WGBH Educational Foundation. Their toll-free number is
1-800-669-9696, and their email address is signals@rivertrade.com

I just thought some of you might be interested. I have not seen this
product, and frankly it's hard for me to believe that any but the most
fanatical origami fans would even consider purchasing a $169.00 shirt! But if
you had the leisure time to read this whole message, maybe you have the
money to buy it.

Bob Roos
rroos@alleg.edu
http://ace.alleg.edu/~roos





From: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:28:18 +0200
Subject: who/where is Dave Venables ?

Hi !!!

                I recently got from the British Origami Society 3 booklets
     containing
some extremely basic drawings of some extremely great works by Neal Elias
:-).

                The foldings are great, there are guitar players, pianists
     sitting by the
piano...Neal Elias is amazing....

                The collection was gathered directly from Neal by someone
     called Dave
Venables, which I do not remember from the list ( is he on this list ?).
There this person mentions further publications about Neal Elias and things
like that, which interested me a lot.

                Additionally it seems that, exactly as with Akira, somone needs
     to
reverse engineer the models and write down the instructions for mere mortals.

                Does anyone know if Mr Venables is available on the internet or
     if apart
from the three BOS booklets there is any publication about Elias' foldings ?

                                                Cheers,





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:25:31 -0700
Subject: Re: who/where is Dave Venables ?

At 09:28 +0200 1998/04/22, Ariel wrote:
>The collection was gathered directly from Neal by someone called Dave
>Venables, which I do not remember from the list ( is he on this list ?).
>There this person mentions further publications about Neal Elias and things
>like that, which interested me a lot.

Dave Venables is not on the list. He's well known for is
diagrams/collections of Neal Elias's works, and I believe he's helped out
his good friend Max Hulme with diagramming as well.

>Additionally it seems that, exactly as with Akira, somone needs to
>reverse engineer the models and write down the instructions for mere mortals.

Probably. Oh, and in Japanese it is considered very rude to refer to
someone by their first name, unless you know them VERY well.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t:604.730.0306 x 105     f: 604.732.7331     e: josephwu@ultranet.ca





From: Sah5234 <Sah5234@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:16:28 -0400 (
Subject: Re: assembly help

thanks!!!!! I got the 90-unit sonobe.  It's really cool!!





From: Troy Tate <troy.tate@JUNO.COM>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 14:11:12 -0500
Subject: Re: assembly help

I have been wanting to go beyond the 12-unit construct.
However, I am wondering do some of the units have to
be "right" handed and others "left" handed or can the
units all be constructed after the same handedness.
That is, in order to make some of the larger constructs,
do you have to have mixed handed units?

Thanks for the info!

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Seriously trying to avoid those techies
who have a "charisma-bypass".
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
troy.tate@juno.com <it's free--what can I say?>

On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:49:01 +0200 jpl@WWW.BARCLAB.COM writes:

---cut---

>I don't have access to the fabled table from Origami for the
>Connoisseur, but I've been playing around a bit with possible
>Sonobe constructs myself. (Reinventing the fire, as it were. I
>haven't constructed all of these, so I'm not 100 % sure there
>isn't some geometrically impossible stuff in the list ...)
>
>2       Coaster/cushion
>3       Takahashi's jewel
>6       cube/tetrahedron
>9       'stellated triangle' == double tetrahedron == 'double cube'
>12      octahedron == 'stellated square' == trigonal antiprism
>15      'stellated pentagon'
>18      'stellated hexagon'
>21      trigonal prism
>24      tetragonal antiprism
>        'snake'
>30      icosahedron == pentagonal antiprism
>36      hexagonal antiprism
>        tetragonal prism == cube
>42      truncated tetrahedron
>45      pentagonal prism
>48      cuboctahedron
>54      hexagonal prism
>84      snub cube
>90      dodecahedron
>120     icosidodecahedron
>        rhombicuboctahedron
>270     truncated icosahedron
>
>etc, etc.

---cut----

>
>Jurgen
>--
>Jurgen Pletinckx             BARC            Etre une heure, rien
>Tel +32 9 220 49 81  Fax +32 9 221 85 17      qu'une heure durant
>jpl@barclab.com                                  Beau, beau, beau
>Industriepark Zwijnaarde 7, B9052 Gent, Belgium  et con a la fois
>

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From: Mike and Janet Hamilton <Mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:47:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami sighting

The Mother Goose & Grimm comics can be found on the web at
http://www.ctoons.com/javascript/grimm/ie/

They are posted a week after publication, so check back on 4/29!

mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj

-----Original Message-----

>Mother Goose & Grimm comic strip in this morning's paper (Newark
>Star-Ledger) --dog complains "Boy...Using the newspaper used to be so much
>easier....Before she got into origami "--  looks ruefully at fish, rooster,
>flapping bird (sort of--has broad, split tail).
>Karen





From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@IHUG.CO.NZ>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:13:11 +1200
Subject: Re: who/where is Dave Venables ?

Dave Venables lives in Birmingham England and is one of the founder members
of the BOS. He is on email (probably on this list also) - I will check with
him and see if he wants his email address given to you. (I suspect he's
away on holiday at present anyway)

Regards,

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Laurie Bisman    lbisman@ihug.co.nz (ICQ number 1458799)
Web page          http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~lbisman/index.html
Company           http://www.addlink.ac.nz/Home.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----------
> From: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: who/where is Dave Venables ?
> Date: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 7:28 PM
>
> Hi !!!
>
>                 I recently got from the British Origami Society 3
booklets containing
> some extremely basic drawings of some extremely great works by Neal Elias
> :-).
>
>
>                 The foldings are great, there are guitar players,
pianists sitting by the
> piano...Neal Elias is amazing....
>
>
>                 The collection was gathered directly from Neal by someone
called Dave
> Venables, which I do not remember from the list ( is he on this list ?).
> There this person mentions further publications about Neal Elias and
things
> like that, which interested me a lot.
>
>                 Additionally it seems that, exactly as with Akira, somone
needs to
> reverse engineer the models and write down the instructions for mere
mortals.
>
>                 Does anyone know if Mr Venables is available on the
internet or if apart
> from the three BOS booklets there is any publication about Elias'
foldings ?
>
>
>                                                 Cheers,





From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:10:05 -0400
Subject: Re: assembly help

All the Sonobe polyhedron models based
on regular polyhedrons, including the 900 unit
model in "Origami for the Connoisseur", are
built from identical units.

By the way, there is a photo on my web pages of
a 900 unit Sonobe model built by Ian Harrison:

http://people.delphi.com/vvann/index.html

about halfway down the "home" page.

Valerie Vann





From: Tony O'Hare <tohare@CABLEINET.CO.UK>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:32:13 +0100
Subject: Dave Venables

Further to Ariel's message:
As a member of the British Origami Society (and a new subsriber to the
list) I can say that the booklets That you have contain Neal Elias's own
diagrams. These were compiled without undue editing in order to make the
work available to origami enthusiasts quickly, relatively cheaply, and
without the very time-consuming business of re-drawing. This also
preserves the unique nature of Mr Elias' drawings, which gives you an
insight into his character and creativity.
You will no doubt appreciate that this was a successful and very
worthwhile venture!
Dave Venables did produce one booklet of his own redrawn instructions
(very high quality) for selected Elias folds in 1981 for the BOS,
entitled "Neal Elias - Selected Works 1964-1973". I think this is
currently out of print, but may be reprinted in the not-too distant
future. I can let you know when I get details.
As Laurie Bisman says, Dave is a founder member of the BOS, and was
present at our Spring Convention in Birmingham earlier this month. He is
obviously a fan of Elias, and a great interpreter of his work. Anything
more than this I'll leave up to Dave himself to say!
I hope this is of some use to you.





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:57:34 +0100
Subject: Re: who/where is Dave Venables ?

Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE> sez

>Does anyone know if Mr Venables is available on the internet

He is, after a fashion. His e-mail address changes with monotonous
regularity though!

As part of the "Birmingham 4"  (Dave, our president Mick Guy, librarian
of 20 years Brian Goodall & former editor Ray Bolt, awarded a Sidney
French medal at the last convention) Dave was responsible for developing
the BOS Supplies from virtually nothing to a flourishing trade (which we
hope soon to recapture). He wrote lengthy letters to almost everyone who
ordered and even cut up squares of foil by hand to sell on. A pack of
this returned to us recently as part of the Ev Gloe collection that the
BOSA recently bought!

Dave was/is a good friend of Max Hulme and prepared many excellent
diagrams of Max's work, culminating in the BOS booklet #15 "Max Hulme -
selected works". They have both "returned to the fold" recently after
several years of anonymity and are attending meetings regularly.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: JOBBY007 <JOBBY007@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:25:21 -0400 (
Subject: Help needed for young origamist (?)

Hi, my names Paresh and I'm 14. I like making origami for friends at school,
but I can't find any new, easy-to-remember models. Send me a few of your
ideas! (PS EASY-TO-REMEBER)





From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:29:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Help needed for young origamist (?)

Paresh,

Look for my book "Origami, Plain and Simple".  (Order it from
a bookstore if you can't find it.)  It has many good,
simple, easy to remember origami models in it.

Good luck!

--- Tom Hull





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:37:49 -0400
Subject: Re: Help needed for young origamist (?)

Thomas C Hull wrote:
>
> Paresh,
>
> Look for my book "Origami, Plain and Simple".  (Order it from
> a bookstore if you can't find it.)  It has many good,
> simple, easy to remember origami models in it.
>
> Good luck!

Good choice.  You can also get John Morin's "The Ultimate Origami Kit" as it
has not only a number of traditional models but also some modern ones.

As "EASY TO REMEMBER" that depends on how much you practice them too!

-D'gou

--
end
<a href="http://www.pgh.net/~dwp">Doug's Fun Page</a>





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:40:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Help needed for young origamist (?)

Paresh asked for "easy-to-remember" models.

Tom suggested _Origami Plain & Simple_. I'll suggest you try
his _Russian Origami_ also (Tom Hull and Sergei Afonkin (sp?)).
Lot's of nice, easy-to-fold models, many of them designed by kids.

If you can't afford to buy it, ask your local public library or your
school library to get a copy.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@PB.NET>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 19:12:00 +0000
Subject: Re: Dave Venables
Priority: normal

Last year, I wanted to teach Neal Elias' "The Last Waltz" at OUSA's convention.
I wrote to Dave for permission to share his diagrams. In the wonderful spirit
of so many generous folders, he both wrote to me from England (I'm in the
states) and even telephoned permission. He shared with me Neal and his delight
in the interest we are taking in these models. Unbelievably, he told me that he
diagrammed many of the models by unfolding a single sample! The diagrams are a
bit abbreviated for my taste but are beautifully three dimensional.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Sah5234 <Sah5234@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:38:06 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Help needed for young origamist (?)

hey, I thought you might not want to buy a book so here are some links to some
diagrams  <A HREF="http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/">Joseph Wu's Diagrams
</A> and here are some specifics
<A HREF="http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/models.bin/coriduck.gif">Duck
</A>
<A HREF="http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/models.bin/slady/slady1.gif">
Simple Ladybug1</A>
<A HREF="http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/models.bin/slady/slady2.gif">
Simple Ladydug2</A>
<A HREF="http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/models.bin/PumpkinF.gif">
http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/model...</A> hope those are simple
enough for you

Stephen





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:34:38 -0400
Subject: Re: Help needed for young origamist (?)

>Hi, my names Paresh and I'm 14. I like making origami for friends at school,
>but I can't find any new, easy-to-remember models. Send me a few of your
>ideas! (PS EASY-TO-REMEBER)

Take a look at my Modern Origami, which has just been reprinted by Dover.
It is organized into chapters by such titles as Basic Moves, The Bird Base,
The Eight Point Star, Three Legged Animals and the Nun, The T-Fold, The Owl
Base, The Stretched Bird Base, The Frog Base, The Offset Bird Base.  They
include attractive figures, not too complex, which can be folded easily for
a friend or a stranger while waiting in line or at meal time.  Foil paper
is recommended and should be carried around at all times.  James M. Sakoda.





From: DORIGAMI <DORIGAMI@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:32:48 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Origami Webpage Preview

Russell, I would like to have a web page but haven't the vaguest how to go
about it.  I have AOL.  Does it cost money to run the webpage and how do you
find out how to design it.  Can you please give me some ideas how you did it.
Dorigami





From: RGS467 <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:13:11 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Origami Webpage Preview

Dori,
      Making a Webpage is pretty easy...  Since you are on AOL, you can go to
keyword: "personal publisher"  and make your own page...AOL gives you 2Mbs of
online space to post your page.  I, personally, do not like AOL's page
editor...it's very limited in features...but, it should work fine for your 1st
page...let me know when you get it done...i'd like to see it.....
Sincerely,    Russell





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:42:58 -0500
Subject: Introduction, new member

Hi
My name is Kathy. I'm 37 yrs old, from Sheboygan, Wisconsin. I'm part
owner of  a small business called  Silent World Divecenter, Inc,
(www.silentworld.com)

 I just started Origami, and I love it!! I was at a craft store to get
some poster board and across the isle was a mobile of origami models,
some paper and one small book. I took a few minutes it check it out, I
always thought it was pretty neat how one can make a 3-D sculpture from
a flat piece of paper. Then I left with my poster board. That same day I
decided to investigate further and typed origami into the Internet
search engines, I cut up some wrapping paper and folded my first crane.
It wasn't until sometime later I realized you're supposed to pull the
wings apart to "inflate" the body...way cool....I was hooked. I went to
the local library to see what they had in way of origami books and
purchased my first package of paper.

That was about 3 weeks ago. I folded most of the models in Tuyen's
"Classic" and "Wild Origami", some models in "New Origami" from Steve &
Megumi Biddle, "Plain & Simple" from Robert Neale and "Origami" from
Hideaki Sakata. Now I'm hungry for more. I tried John Montroll's Fox in
"Favorite Animals" but it didn't turn out too well.

Well, that's my story, I would be interested in hearing how all of  you
got started in Origami. I would think most of you were taught by someone
as a child??  (it took me 37 years)

Please tell me your favorite origami book or model.





From: ktomlinson@PLATINUM.COM
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:48:22 -0400
Subject: Littleton (MA, USA) Origami Group Meeting April 28th

Hi,

For those of you in the Massachusetts or southern New Hampshire area, I'm happy
 to announce this month's meeting of the Littleton origami group.

We will be meeting on the main floor of the library -- the glassed in area to
the right of circulation desk -- soon to become the "New Historical Room".

When: Tuesday, 28 April 1998, 7:00 - 9:00.
Where: Reuben Hoar Public Library, Shattuck Street, Littleton, MA
Telephone: (978) 486-4046.

Directions:  Get to the junction of routes 2A/110, 119 and 495.  This
intersection is in the center of town at the only traffic lights.
There's a Mobile station and Bob's Solid Oak nearby.

1. Coming from 2A East take a left at the lights onto King Street (110/2A West)
 toward Ayer, MA.  Coming from 119
    West take a right at the lights onto King Street toward Ayer, MA.

2. You'll pass Bob's Solid Oak and a Shell station on the right, then a
cemetery.  At 2 tenths of a mile from the light is
    a right hand fork -- this is one entrance to Shattuck Street.

If you miss it, continue on 110/2A for 5 tenths of a mile.  The other entrance
to Shattuck Street is on the right opposite
Badger Funeral home. The sign says Town Offices.

There's parking to the left and rear of the building.

Hope to see you there!

Kristine Tomlinson
ktomlinson@platinum.com
Waltham, MA, USA





From: RGS467 <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:50:22 -0400 (
Subject: new WEBPAGE

 <A HREF="http://lonestar.utsa.edu/dcamaril/INDEX.HTM">Paper Wonders</A>
...for those who missed it...click here to see my new webpage.
Russell: )





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:27:42 -0700
Subject: Re: Peau d'elephant

At 17:12 -0600 1998/04/24, Kim Best wrote:
>At the begining of the diagrams Mr. Joissel says, he like to fold it
>with Arjomari paper <<Peau d'elephant>>.  Is this anything like Elephant
>Hide?

"Peau d'elephant" means "elephant hide" in French. I believe that M. Joisel
is referring to the same paper.

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From: DLister891 <DLister891@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:52:21 -0400 (
Subject: Help needed for Young Origamist.

Origami-L  at  Origami@mitvma.mit.edu   24th April, 1998.
re Help needed for Young Origamist.

One of the best bookds I know fo yourng paperfolders (or for older ones too,
who are looking for not-too-difficult models beatifully diagrammed and
explained) is Steve and megumi Bidle' "Amazing origami for Children". It was
published in England as a largish paperback by Red Fox, a division of Arrow
Books Ltd in 1990. ISBN 0-09-966180-2. I don't know if there is a different
publisher in the United States.

When I was  nosing round the Kinokinuya bookshop by the Rockefeller Center in
New York last year, on three separate occasions I got talking to ladies who
said they were looking for an origami book to give to children. I recommended
Steve and Megumi's book and each of the three ladies bought a copy!.

I felt that perhaps I should have claimed commission from Kinokinuya. I only
hope I did right to suggest only one of several good intoductory books.

David Lister.

DLister891@AOL.com





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:12:32 -0600
Subject: Peau d'elephant

The highlight of  the spring issue of  BOS, has to be Eric Joissel's
diagrams for his cartoon rat.  I was suprised to see how classic the
folding process was. The little creature has so much charactor, I
expected a lot of  unusual and 'artist' folds.

At the begining of the diagrams Mr. Joissel says, he like to fold it
with Arjomari paper <<Peau d'elephant>>.  Is this anything like Elephant
Hide?

In anycase, if your not a member of the British Origami Society, pester
your nearest friend who is, to loan you a copy.  This is one model, you
just have to fold!

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    * I don't get impeachment.    *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Don't low crimes beat       *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * high misdemeaners any day?  *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Roy Hashimoto <roy@ENROUTE.COM>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:43:53 -0700
Subject: Re: Metal origami

Hi, I'm a new subscriber.  I was browsing the archives and saw
the discussion from last month on metalizing finished origami,
and thought I might pass on some information that might be helpful
to someone.

I was in Japan last month, and saw a television craft program on
a simple way of creating silver jewelry.  They used a special silver
putty-like substance, which when fired in a kiln, becomes solid
and shiny.  You can mold this stuff, which they showed first, or
you can dilute it with water into a slurry that you can apply with
a brush.  They showed applying it to leaves and to origami tsuru.
The firing apparently either oxidizes the organic material completely,
or it just gets sealed within the metal.

That's about all I know - don't know if it tarnishes, if it's toxic,
etc., but it did look a lot easier than applying leaf.  If you have
contacts in Japan, you might have them ask at a craft store.

Roy Hashimoto
roy@enroute.com





From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@KIMSCRANE.COM>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:05:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Status of Tsuyadashi + special glue

Hello Everyone;

Kim's Crane has now in stock two sizes of the Tsuyadashi Liquid and one size
of the special washi glue.  Please go to our web cart and do a text search
for "Tsuyadashi" and "Glue".  There are also links to it on our Homepage
under "New Products".

Happy Folding,
Kimberly and Gordon





From: Cathy <cathypl@GENERATION.NET>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:25:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Introduction, new member

At 02:42 PM 98-04-24 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Well, that's my story, I would be interested in hearing how all of  you
>got started in Origami. I would think most of you were taught by someone
>as a child??  (it took me 37 years)
>
>Please tell me your favorite origami book or model.

I learned origami as an adult.  My first model was the crane.  I had to
learn it because I wanted to teach it to the kids I was reading Sadako to.
My favourite model?  That's a hard one.  I really like the Neile dragon and
the Kawasaki rose.  My favourite book is John Montroll's Prehistoric Life.

                                Cathy
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





From: Rob Moes <robert.moes@SNET.NET>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:49:25 -0500
Subject: source for shinwazome chiyogami?

I have been unable to find a source for this amazing Japanese paper by
Grimmhobby--a beautiful embossed floral chiyogami in 15 cm squares.  The
wrapper is in Japanese.  It does have an item number listed as 83-0647.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Rob
robert.moes@snet.net





From: LarryFinch <LarryFinch@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:06:36 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Origami Webpage Preview

In a message dated 98-04-24 11:46:43 EDT, you write:

> Russell, I would like to have a web page but haven't the vaguest how to go
>  about it.  I have AOL.  Does it cost money to run the webpage and how do
you
>  find out how to design it.  Can you please give me some ideas how you did
it.
>
>  Dorigami
>
>
AOL gives all members the opportunity to create free web pages. For more info,
go to keyword: ON THE NET.

Larry





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:30:55 -0500
Subject: origami chat rooms?

Does anyone know of any Origami Chat Rooms?

Sometimes it's nice to have an instant conversation going.





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 03:58:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Foil Paper

>James M. Sakoda <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU> sez
>
>>Foil paper
>>is recommended and should be carried around at all times.
>
>Sorry James, I have to disagree with that! Foil can make certain types
>of folding easier, but in many cases it makes it harder (anytime a
>crease is reversed for example!)
>
>Only one person's opinion, but I think ordinary paper is the best and
>most attractive medium, especially for a beginner....
>
>all the best,
>
>Nick Robinson
>
>email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
>homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
>BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
>RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!

Nick, I do not dispute your statement that folding can be harder when it
involves reversing a crease.  However, in balance it is desirable to have
creases which stays put where you want it.  Also, most of the figures in
Modern Origami are three dimensional and in addition need to stand on their
own.  The added strength that the foil has is a great advantage.  Besides,
foil is more durable, can be wiped clean, and has a reflective quality
which enhances the appearance of three dimenskional abjects, such as
flowers and geometric figures.  James M. Sakoda





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 07:10:01 +0100
Subject: Re: Help needed for young origamist (?)

>I like making origami for friends at school,
>but I can't find any new, easy-to-remember models. Send me a few of your
>ideas!

Paresh-

Try Paper Creations by Gay Merrill Gross. There is a stubby little star
made from a strip of paper, a shirt, a card case or portfolio, a basket,
a vase, and some other models that I, who have a poor memory, have
memorized. The instructions are exceptionally easy to follow.

Another idea: join Origami USA. You will receive a quarterly newsletter
with diagrams, a 10% discount on a huge selection of papers and books,
and the use of their through-the-mail lending library.

One of my favorite memorized models is the Bird Base Rose by Dr. Sakoda.
It is in the Origami USA 1993 Annual Collection.

Have fun!

Jane





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 07:10:02 +0100
Subject: Re: Introduction, new member

>I would be interested in hearing how all of  you
>got started in Origami. I would think most of you were taught by someone
>as a child??  (it took me 37 years)
>
>Please tell me your favorite origami book or model.

Hi, Kathy!

I learned from a book when I was six, but I don't know how I did it: I
recently found the book in the library, and it is terribly hard to
follow: lots of "fold line A-B so that it meets line R-S." Thank goodness
for today's standard symbols.

You might be interested in looking in the Origami-l archive for a thread,
"Origami enthusiast survey." Many members of the list wrote about their
introduction to folding then. You can search the archive by going to
Joseph Wu's Origami Page at <http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca>. The
exchanges took place last fall and winter.

Two of my favorite models are a nautilus shell and a four-unit shell in
Spirals 1 by Tomoko Fuse. But there are too many beautiful designs
around. Another day I would have mentioned different favorites.

Wishing you many years of folding fun!

Jane





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 08:19:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Introduction, new member

Hi Katherine,

> Well, that's my story, I would be interested in hearing how all of  you
> got started in Origami. I would think most of you were taught by someone
> as a child??  (it took me 37 years)

First, welcome to the group and welcome to origami.

This groups just did a little survey where a lot of us gave a brief
(usually) history of our involvement with origami. You may not know that
all the emails ever sent to this group are archived and are searchable.
Here's what you can do to search the archives and find answers to your
question.
Go to http://www.origami.net/cgi-bin/jwu/search_archive.cgi (archive search
engine by Joseph Wu), and search on < +origami +enthusiast +survey >.

Good luck,
Jeff Kerwood
jkerwood@usaor.net





From: Andy Carpenter <Andy.Carpenter@MCI.COM>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 09:17:56 -0600
Subject: Re: Peau d'elephant......get ratty with the BOS
Importance: Normal

This is exactly what I have done. I have been looking for an excuse to join
BOS for a while and I guess this was it.

-----Original Message-----
Sent:   Saturday, April 25, 1998 2:44 AM

Or alternatively give me a call,join the BOS and OWN your own copy.

Hope to be inundated with membership requests from rat fans.

Penny

Penny Groom
Memberhsip Secretary British Origami Society
penny@sector.demon.co.uk





From: Penny Groom <penny@SECTOR.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 09:43:41 +0100
Subject: Peau d'elephant......get ratty with the BOS

In message <35411C5F.305CE468@m.cc.utah.edu>, Kim Best
<kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU> writes
>The highlight of  the spring issue of  BOS, has to be Eric Joissel's
>diagrams for his cartoon rat.  I was suprised to see how classic the
>folding process was. The little creature has so much charactor, I
>expected a lot of  unusual and 'artist' folds.
>
>At the begining of the diagrams Mr. Joissel says, he like to fold it
>with Arjomari paper <<Peau d'elephant>>.  Is this anything like Elephant
>Hide?
>
>In anycase, if your not a member of the British Origami Society, pester
>your nearest friend who is, to loan you a copy.

Or alternatively give me a call,join the BOS and OWN your own copy.

Hope to be inundated with membership requests from rat fans.

Penny

Penny Groom
Memberhsip Secretary British Origami Society
penny@sector.demon.co.uk





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:05:48 +0100
Subject: Re: Peau d'elephant

Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU> sez

>Arjomari paper <<Peau d'elephant>>.  Is this anything like Elephant
>Hide?

Eric gave me one of his Rats at the York convention & yes, it is the
paper I know as elephant hide. Superbly folded as well!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 10:09:09 +0100
Subject: Re: Help needed for young origamist (?)

James M. Sakoda <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU> sez

>Foil paper
>is recommended and should be carried around at all times.

Sorry James, I have to disagree with that! Foil can make certain types
of folding easier, but in many cases it makes it harder (anytime a
crease is reversed for example!)

Only one person's opinion, but I think ordinary paper is the best and
most attractive medium, especially for a beginner....

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: "Julian A." <hullianx13@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 14:23:24 -0700 (
Subject: Send any flower info

Please send any information regearding origami flowers

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From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 14:35:35 +0100
Subject: spinning top wanted..

Does anyone know of a decent one-piece spinning top? Preferably one that
doesn't need a stick inserting to spin it with. I have one by John Smith
& would like to try others for possible inclusion in a projected book.

many thanks,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: RGS467 <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 16:15:20 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Foil Paper

In a message dated 98-04-25 15:55:51 EDT, you write:

<< ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU  >>

OK, guys....  The solution to this dilemma would be a compromise...  foil-
backed paper.  Not only is it strong and allows for "three-dimensionalizing",
but reverse folds are made easy because the paper keeps the foil from locking
closed, yet allows the crease to remain intact.  I've used tissue paper, wall
paper, and other types of paper using this back-foiling technique...I'm sure
i'm not alone...Great results.  I admit...it is more time-consuming to have to
foil the paper.  But, with the right tools, it can be done quickly and
easily...and ahead of time.    I use spray adhesive and a paper cutter...and
do 6 at a time....depending on the paper I use.

PS:  It should be noted that if you try to backfoil wallpaper, then fold it,
the wall paper must actually "contain" paper and you must thoroughly wet the
paper before backcoating it....Then, the paper really should be folded while
still wet....If the paper dries out too much, the model will become extremely
difficult to fold....The paper can be steamed to put some moisture back into
it to finish the model.

Just a suggestion....I'm sure we all have our favorite techniques...ones that
work for us best...

Just my $.02.
Russell:\





From: Tricia Tait <tait@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 18:06:33 -0400
Subject: folding, Eskimo Pies, and Frank Sinatra!

Since hearing that Frank Sinatra supposedly eats 14 Eskimo Pies a day-
I've had this strange craving for those pies, too. Needless to say after
searching out 8 different stores in my area, there isn't a single one to
be found (except for sugarless- which doesn't count). Anyway, I went to
the Eskimo Pie web page to send a complaint. To my surprise I found a
link of theirs to "Cooltivities" which has 3 fun games involving
origami. One has gobbling creatures folded from the wrappers and the
others have a football and a pog folded from the boxes. The html is:
www.eskimopie.com/game.htm  ...now just try finding a box of 'em!
(possible ploy of the Eskimo Pie Co. or Dairy Council)

Have fun!
Tricia Tait





From: "Julian A." <hullianx13@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 18:27:03 -0700 (
Subject: Recommendations

Can you recommend any origami books?
Can you recommend any specific type of origami paper?
Can you recommend any book and paper ordering companies?

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From: dragon@FREENET.EDMONTON.AB.CA
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 18:33:34 -0600
Subject: John Montrolls New Book

 Hi everyone,
Just wanted to let those who live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada know that
John's new book "Teach Yourself Origami" is here and I got my copy today
at "Chapters"  It looks pretty good and I am anxious to try the waterwheel
tonight.   Good luck to all who get it.

Lynda





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 18:46:24 -0500
Subject: thanks for the tip

Thank you for your replies to my introduction letter and making me feel
welcome.

I visited the archive's "Origami Enthusiast Survey", it was just what I
was looking for. Thanks for the tip.

Kathy





From: Bill Walker <origami@KREATIVE.NET>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 21:44:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami Recommendations

There are three main mail order origami services.  OUSA, Fascinating
Folds, and Kim's Crane.

I prefer Kim's Crane for their prompt and courteous service as well
as their huge selection of origami papers to choose from.

Bill Walker





From: RGS467 <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 22:56:28 -0400 (
Subject: Re: origami chat rooms?

I researched this idea a couple months ago..l.still working on the sumation of
findings... I have not seen a realtime chat specifically reserved for
Origami...  I had intended to start one.  Unfortunately, I only targeted AOL
members who have posted to Origami -L in the last 6 months..

    Studies showed that most people who post to Origami L are either too busy
the technology of realtime chats...I can understand both of these reasons.
Roughly 4% of those I polled were excited about the concept ...and assured me
that they would try to be active contributors IF I successfully set up a chat
room.

I erred in my target market...I went for AOL members...assuming there would be
enough interest....only 4 % of 95 does not a realtime chatroom make....

However, the solution is evident to me...I just haven't had time to pursue
setting it up yet..... Java chat format would avail most all Origami L members
of interacting in this type of  realtime chat forum.

Anyone else interested???   Just curious....I'm going to have some time off
later this month...and would like to pursue this quest.....Feel free to write
me IF YOU ARE INTERESTED  (no need to respond negatively..because i already
have an idea of what percentage would actually be actively involved)

I'm on-line quite often...and love to chat about origami....I am on AOL...and
have Instant Messenger...Look for me online at RGS467@AOL.com...

PS:   I hope this makes sense....i guess I should have adequately awoken
before I bothered to post this.....
                                                                      Sincerel
y,   Russell...RGS467





From: "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel@EXC.COM>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 09:01:00 -0400 (
Subject: Foil Paper

>That's fine & if people buy your book (which they should!) then they
>ought to follow the guidelines you present. I just wanted to point out
>to a beginner that foil isn't *always* a good idea.

I teach a beginning Origami class twice every summer, and I've found
that the students always have trouble with foil the first few times,
even after doing quite well with ordinary paper.  But most of them
tell me it's worth the extra effort.

-Joel
(joel@exc.com)





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 10:54:56 -0500
Subject: saw you in the archives

Hi Jane

Thank you for replying to my introduction letter.

I read your survey in the archives. I have a Kasahara book now from the
liabrary "Origami Made Easy". I really like the Praying Mantis. I'm
going to try the cow and kagaroo next. I folded the fish but my tail is
square not on an angle like hers can't figure out that last fold.

Hey Jane, what do you do with all your models? I just have mine in a
box, I call it my "Gammi Zoo"

Kathy





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 12:23:40 +0100
Subject: Re: Foil Paper

James M. Sakoda <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU> sez

>Also, most of the figures in
>Modern Origami are three dimensional and in addition need to stand on their
>own.  The added strength that the foil has is a great advantage.

That's fine & if people buy your book (which they should!) then they
ought to follow the guidelines you present. I just wanted to point out
to a beginner that foil isn't *always* a good idea.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 12:29:26 -0500
Subject: Chat Rooms

Russell, about your research into chat rooms. Sometimes you just have to
try it.

I think it is more about advertising (letting people know it's out
there) than it is about demographics or studies. I'm a Scuba Diver and
there is only a small percentage of people who dive but there are some
very active Scuba Chat Rooms on the internet..

People love to talk...I don't think there will be any problem with
interest. This list is a good example of that.

Hope you give it a go!!

Kathy





From: JacAlArt <JacAlArt@AOL.COM>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 13:39:46 -0400 (
Subject: Models in new Montroll book

1st -- what's the title/cost of Montroll's new book?
2nd -- Can anyone list the models and level? Particularly, how many and what
are the complex (4-star) models?

~Alec





From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?THORKILD_S=D8NDERG=C5RD?= <thokiyenn@GET2NET.DK>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 14:51:46 +0200
Subject: new to the list

the net and all its mysteries is new to me ! only discovered this list
yesterday.

Greetings

Thoki Yenn

 e-mail: thokiyenn@get2net.dk

please have a look at:
  http://www.bornholmershoppen.dk/videorig.html





From: morpha <morpha@COLUMBIA-PACIFIC.INTERRAIN.ORG>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:56:59 -0700
Subject: Re: folding, Eskimo Pies, and Frank Sinatra!

Oh man, Tricia's posting about Eskimo Pies is causing me to crave them
too.  Good thing I can't find any either, because I'm lactose
intolerant.

Cathy Nist





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 16:57:47 -1000
Subject: Re: Foil Paper

Isn't there really different kinds of foil?  I agree with Nick that the
smooth, slick foil is difficult with all the problems he mentions,
however, the "fluffy", sort of "embossed" foil is somewhat more
forgiving.
Aloha, Jan





From: DLister891 <DLister891@AOL.COM>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 17:22:00 -0400 (
Subject: Re: new to the list

New to the List (Thoki Yenn.)

The warmest welcome to Thoki Yenn, who has joined us. I hope, Thoki, that you
will soon feel at home enjoy our chatter and banter and the occasional serious
matters of Origami that we throw in from time to time. We hope that you will
not be slow to join in.

And for those who do not know Thoki, he has been a craftsman in paper for
fifty years or more. Lillian Oppenheimer looked him up in Copenhagen in 1957
and today, he is one of the really great creative folders, concentrating on
fantastic mathematical constructions and origamical puzzles.

Welcome Thoki.

David Lister891@AOL.com





From: Ourldypeac <Ourldypeac@AOL.COM>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 19:31:30 -0400 (
Subject: Origami

Can anyone get me a good deal on Peter Engel's "Folding the Universe"?  If you
can, please E-mail me. Thanks.
                                                  -Ian





From: DORIGAMI <DORIGAMI@AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:34:46 -0400 (
Subject: Re: new to the list

Hi Thoki,  I met with you several times at conventions in England.  You made
me some lovely cut and fold model that I really enjoyed.  You also showed me a
little arab women with her eyes peeking out of her veils.  I have several of
your books.  You may remember me as Dorothy Kaplan.  I did a presentation the
same year as you did.  I had a television show for 10 and 1/2 years.  Do you
remember me.  Welcome to Origami-L.  Enjoy it, its lots of fun.  Dorigami





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 03:16:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Foil Paper

>Isn't there really different kinds of foil?  I agree with Nick that the
>smooth, slick foil is difficult with all the problems he mentions,
>however, the "fluffy", sort of "embossed" foil is somewhat more
>forgiving.
>Aloha, Jan

Yes, you are right.  Embossed foil are stamped with small patterns and are
not only attractive, but also more flexible and easier to fold and unfold.
Embossed foil paper used to be plentiful as Christmas wrapping paper, since
they were thin and embossing helped to give it more body.  I used to buy a
bunch of them after Xmas, and figured that with 50% discunt a six inch
square cost me about a penny a sheet.  But even at Xmas time foil wrapping
paper is still scarce, and one can hardly hope for embossed foil paper.
     However, Allufoil Products Co. is capable of producing embssed foil
paper with such names as floral, nugget, web, rib, stucco, alligator, gyro,
mosaic, taffeta, linem. emery.  Paper suppliers who are interested might
consider carrying some of the embossed foil paper.  Write to Allufoil for
their embossing patterns and prices for special ordering of rolls of foil
paper, both plain and embossed.  At their shop sthey carry a few individual
patterns in 25 foot rolls, which can be purchased individually.  In my last
trip  I bought a dull  mosaic pattern in silver and another in dull light
blue, which I have been using to cover my vases for origami flower
arrangements.     James M. Sakoda





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 03:47:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Foil or Paper

>I wonder if someone who is not so much a folder as an outside observer may be
>allowed to comment on the present discussion about the merits of foil as
>opposed to paper for folding. - and vice versa.
>

>David Lister.
>
>Grimsby, England.
>
>DLister891@AOL.com
David, you seem to be assuming that when I say foil paper I am referring to
plain aluminum foil.  The foil paper I am referring to is paper-backed
foil, which is foldable and with a little effort unfoldable. Pure foil can
be folded, but it is next to impossible to unfold completely.   I would not
advise anyone to fold pure aluminum foil, neither do I know anyone who
does.  The best is probably thin paper-backed foil with embossing with
small designs, making the combination more foldable into intridate designs.
YHou are correct in saying that foil paper is appropriate for figures
dominated by straight lines rather than by rounded corners, for whidh wet
folding is better.  James M. Sakoda





From: unknown@unknown.unknown
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 04:02:53 -0400
Subject:

     I am an enthusiastic folder.My subject interest areas are animals,
     birds,insects, human forms etc. I would say I am about intermediate/
     advance level.Most of the models I have folded have been from
     Montroll, Lang, John Smith, David Brill.
     I have a large collection of model diagrams some of which I would be
     happy to share.(one of my favourites is the Starship Enterprise)

     I wish to expand my collection of model diagrams. I would like to hear
     from people that might be able to send me appropriate models diagrams
     or advise me of some Web sites which would be appropriate.

     ps. does anyonbody have access to model diagrams of Disney characters
     such as Mickey Mouse ?
