




From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 16:06:36 -0500
Subject: Re: Perfect Pentagons

>David,
>At 21.24 31/3/1998 +0200, you wrote:
>>As there were a little discussion about polygons some times ago
>>in the list, and for those who are interested in, I wrote some
>>remarks about maximum regular polygons
>
>>  They can normally be found in the archives at
>>ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/articles/polye.ps and
>>ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/articles/polye2.ps
>
>WARNING ! You have forgotten to add that these are rather BIG files (about
>2.8 Mbytes in all), and that there are MUCH smaller "zipped" versions in the
>"/documents" directory, namely "polyeps.zip" and "polye2ps.zip".....
>
>Roberto
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Roberto, Here is the easy maximum pentagon based on Ian Harrison and Kazuo
Haga's works.  It works like a charm, and I can't understand how that can
be when both angle and length of sides are approximations!  Maybe you have
an explanation for it.  James M. Sakoda  copy stored at
http://idt.net/~kittyv






From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@CONCENTRA.COM>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 16:32:16 -0500
Subject: Re: USA subscribers to Tanteidan Newsletter?

Doug asks:

   Are there any subscribers in the USA to the Tanteidan Newsletter on
   this list?  I was just at the main post office in downtown
   Pittsburgh trying to get an international money order in yen.  All
   they could tell me was that I could get an international money order
   in US dollars.  Since the Tanteidan web sites specificly mentions
   yen, I figure that there might be someone else on this list who has
   done this before and who could give me the incantation I need to get
   the USPS to use the correct form/procedure.  Any help appreciated.

I tried in vain to get satisfaction from the post office on the
question of international money orders.  I was told that I must order
one from an address in St. Louis, by sending a check in dollars and
they would send me the money order in yen in something like 3-4 weeks.
The trouble is, no one can guess what the exchange rate will be in the
future, so there is absolutely no way to guarantee that the money
order will be for the correct amount!  This state of affairs is
completely outrageous.

I got my membership when a friend when to Japan on business and signed
me up (thanks Anne!).  Anyway, my membership just expired and now I am
faced with the same problem again.  I have procured 2000 yen from a
local bank that does foreign exchange, and I intend to wrap it
carefully in an opaque envelope and hope for the best.

Other folders that I have asked about this problem have mostly come
up with the same solution.

        -- Jeannine Mosely





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 16:49:02 -0500
Subject: perfect pentagon

To all who are not intrested in the topic and the diagram of easy maximum
pentagon:  Sorry I thought I was sending the message with the pdf file of
the diegram for the easy maximum pentagon based on Ian Harrison's
pentagonal angle.  If you are not interested in seeing the diagram simply
erase it from your disk.  If you want to read it, you have to have Adobe
Acrobat 3.0. which can be downloaded from http://www. adobe.com/acrobat.
It may be a good time to practice.  Also, there are dollar bill folds in
pdf form at  http://idt.net/~kittyv  .  James M. Sakoda





From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:08:50 -0500
Subject: Re: USA subscribers to Tanteidan Newsletter?

Hey -

A while ago I purchased some of the Otsu Proceedings from
Toshikazu Kawasaki directly.  I went to the main Post
Office branch in Somerville, MA (in Union Square) and
asked for an international money order.  I had to tell
them how much money *in US $$* that I wanted - so previously
I got the latest conversion rate to yen and figured it out.
(I added a little bit, in case it changed.)  Then they
asked me what international currency it was being sent for,
so I said, "Yen."  Then they looked something up on a chart -
I think it was how much to charge me for the conversion.
Then they gave me the money order, which had printed
on it the money amount in US $$.  I also had to pay a (small)
surcharge, and they told me that whoever I sent the money order
to will be able to exchange it for cash at their post office,
with no charge to them.  (I had already paid the charge, get it?)

So I sent the money order to Kawasaki-san, and he emailed me
a while later saying that he got it Okey-dokey.  Now, perhaps
there was a problem and he was just being polite, but from
my position it seemed to work out OK.

--- Tom "that's my story" Hull
    thull@merrimack.edu
    http://chasm.merrimack.edu/~thull





From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@KIMSCRANE.COM>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 17:48:54 -0500
Subject: International Money Orders

We recently sent a registered international postal money order in Lira
to Italy.  Yes, it went through St. Louis.  It took one month to get
from our post office in Herndon VA. to Saint Louis.  We have not heard
anything from Italy, so I guess they have yet to receive it.  So tonight
we are putting a second tracer on it.  Two months to try and get an
international  postal order to Italy is outrageous!!!   I am about ready
to go postal!!!!!!!!!!!

Kimberly Crane
http://www.kimscrane.com

Thomas C Hull wrote:

> Hey -
>
> A while ago I purchased some of the Otsu Proceedings from
> Toshikazu Kawasaki directly.  I went to the main Post
> Office branch in Somerville, MA (in Union Square) and
> asked for an international money order.  I had to tell
> them how much money *in US $$* that I wanted - so previously
> I got the latest conversion rate to yen and figured it out.
> (I added a little bit, in case it changed.)  Then they
> asked me what international currency it was being sent for,
> so I said, "Yen."  Then they looked something up on a chart -
> I think it was how much to charge me for the conversion.
> Then they gave me the money order, which had printed
> on it the money amount in US $$.  I also had to pay a (small)
> surcharge, and they told me that whoever I sent the money order
> to will be able to exchange it for cash at their post office,
> with no charge to them.  (I had already paid the charge, get it?)
>
> So I sent the money order to Kawasaki-san, and he emailed me
> a while later saying that he got it Okey-dokey.  Now, perhaps
> there was a problem and he was just being polite, but from
> my position it seemed to work out OK.
>
> --- Tom "that's my story" Hull
>     thull@merrimack.edu
>     http://chasm.merrimack.edu/~thull





From: Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@HPC.UH.EDU>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 18:55:13 -0600
Subject: JavaOne's "Most Brain-Twisting Gizmo"
Lines: 9

There's an interesting origami reference at
<URL:http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/javaone98/j1-98-bestofshow.html>.

A quote:

The map that was given away as part of the JavaOne Conference materials
must have been developed by some kind of Origami expert.

 - J<





From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:25:35 +0200
Subject: Re: Perfect Pentagons

David,
At 21.24 31/3/1998 +0200, you wrote:
>As there were a little discussion about polygons some times ago
>in the list, and for those who are interested in, I wrote some
>remarks about maximum regular polygons

>  They can normally be found in the archives at
>ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/articles/polye.ps and
>ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/articles/polye2.ps

WARNING ! You have forgotten to add that these are rather BIG files (about
2.8 Mbytes in all), and that there are MUCH smaller "zipped" versions in the
"/documents" directory, namely "polyeps.zip" and "polye2ps.zip".....

Roberto
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From: Julia Weinmann <jaw727@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:39:37 +0000 (
Subject: Re: READ PLEASE

Hi,
 Okay what you do is send a e-mail to the
"LISTSERV address",  LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU (or
LISTSERV@MITVMA.BITNET).

And type in thesupject and body NOMAIL.
If you want to comm write to me.
Bye.
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From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:39:43 -0500
Subject: Re: International Money Orders

On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Joseph Wu indited:

+Credit cards are a pain to get in Japan, so many people don't carry them. I
+can only imagine the headaches (an costs) involved in setting up a small
+business to accept them. Besides, everyone in Japan just carries cash. It's
+still a very safe society, after all.

Yeah it may be safe (I'll take your word for it), but I'm surprised
that they don't have credit cards in the mad rush to be westernized.
But then again I've heard that you can get some of the most amazing
things via vending machines there, so maybe cash is still viable.  I'm
also surprised that they don't have "cash cards" - just from an
embracing technology point of view.

-D'gou





From: LynelleV <LynelleV@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 20:51:52 -0500 (
Subject: Re: new books

Hi Everybody,
I just got a mail from amazon - I have an "eyes" service entry there to tell
me if any new origami books are published.  They are listing 4 new ones
(below).  Does anybody know anything about these, especially the Fuse book?
The second one must be a reprint, obviously.
Lynelle V   LynelleV@aol.com   lvanhorn@affinity.ccare.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Fabulous Origami Boxes" by Tomoko Fuse
$17.00 Publisher: Japan Publications  Paperback
Expected publication date: April 1998
ISBN: 0870409786
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Origami Step-By-Step" by Robert  Harbin
$3.95 Publisher: Dover Publications (revised)  Paperback
Expected publication date: May 1998
ISBN: 0486401367
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Playful Origami" by Reiko Asou
$17.00 Publisher: Kodansha International Ltd.  Paperback
Expected publication date: May 1998
ISBN: 0870408275
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"A Thousand Cranes" by Florence Temko
$5.95 Publisher: Heian Intl Pub Co   Paperback
Expected publication date: May 1998
ISBN: 0893468517





From: "Jorge C. Lucero" <lucero@IPE.MAT.UNB.BR>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 08:35:30 -0300
Subject: Re: International Money Orders

>we are putting a second tracer on it.  Two months to try and get an
>international  postal order to Italy is outrageous!!!   I am about ready

I can't believe these messages!. Here in Brazil we always complain about our
postal services, but one can send an international money order to almost any
country (including Japan) and in almost any currency (including yen), and
all it takes is a couple minutes filling a form. Strangely, Canada is one of
the few countries that doen't accept our postal money orders.

Jorge





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 10:31:36 -0800
Subject: Re: JavaOne's "Most Brain-Twisting Gizmo"

At 18:55 -0600 1998/4/02, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
>There's an interesting origami reference at
><URL:http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/javaone98/j1-98-bestofshow.html>.
>
>A quote:
>
>The map that was given away as part of the JavaOne Conference materials
>must have been developed by some kind of Origami expert.

Finally got into that site today. It wouldn't let me in yesterday. Anyway,
that map structure is being used by various companies these days. When I
was in York in September for the BOS convention, we were all given maps of
York that used the same technique. It's basically a waterbomb base with the
corners reverse folded inside.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t:604.730.0306 x 105     f: 604.732.7331     e: josephwu@ultranet.ca





From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@TESSELLATION.COM>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 10:55:31 -0500
Subject: Re: International Money Orders
>Credit cards are a pain to get in Japan, so many people don't carry them. I
>can only imagine the headaches (an costs) involved in setting up a small
>business to accept them. Besides, everyone in Japan just carries cash. It's
>still a very safe society, after all.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
>t:604.730.0306 x 105     f: 604.732.7331     e: josephwu@ultranet.ca

Is there already a business in Japan that accepts credit cards? Perhaps a
bookstore? Perhaps an origami bookstore?

It seems to me that there are so many people on this list who are
interested in purchasing things in Japan, that it would be efficient to
establish a regular channel through which purchases could be made by credit
card. With credit cards, you don't have to worry about knowing the exchange
rate in advance, and you don't have to worry about sending cash through the
mail, and you don't have to wait a month for the USPO to give you a money
order.

Robert

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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 11:11:23 -0800
Subject: Re: International Money Orders
At 10:55 -0500 1998/4/03, Robert Allan Schwartz wrote:
>Is there already a business in Japan that accepts credit cards? Perhaps a
>bookstore? Perhaps an origami bookstore?

Don't misunderstand. Credit cards ARE used in Japan. They're just nowhere
near as common as in North America. AFAIK, there are no origami (book)
stores in Japan that will accept credit card orders, especially from
overseas.

>It seems to me that there are so many people on this list who are
>interested in purchasing things in Japan, that it would be efficient to
>establish a regular channel through which purchases could be made by credit
>card. With credit cards, you don't have to worry about knowing the exchange
>rate in advance, and you don't have to worry about sending cash through the
>mail, and you don't have to wait a month for the USPO to give you a money
>order.

Uh-huh. Think about it. There are between 500 and 600 people on this list.
A small percentage of these people actually order things overseas. Is it
worth it for a Japanese company to set this up? I don't know how the system
works there for setting up a business to accept credit cards. However,
given the huge fees involved in the simplest overseas banking procedures in
Japan, I would guess that the setup (and the running fees) would be quite
expensive.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t:604.730.0306 x 105     f: 604.732.7331     e: josephwu@ultranet.ca





From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@CONCENTRA.COM>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 11:33:26 -0500
Subject: expanding dollar bill perimeters

I got this message on the math-fun mailing list.  I don't get the
journal referred to.  Does anyone else?

        -- Jeannine Mosely

------- Start of forwarded message -------
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 98 11:12:17 EST

Fans of the Margulies napkin problem:

    Fold a square piece of paper into a flat shape with larger
    perimeter.

that we discussed last year will appreciate Ivan Yaschenko's paper
"Making your dollar bigger now" in the Spring Mathematical
Intelligencer (vol 20 no 2 pp 38-40).  He gives a simple, plausible
solution for a 7x3 rectangle (a dollar bill).  Unfortunately, he does
not have a proof that it does not involve stretching the bill.  It is
also not obvious that the construction can be applied to a square,
though I suspect a minor modification would accomplish that.

I recall that when Jim Propp introduced this on sci.math.research, he
mentioned a rumor that all Russian graduate students of mathematics
know how to solve this, but that they then graduate, emigrate to the
United States, and forget how it's done.  Yaschenko apparently has the
advantage of still being in Moscow.

Dan
Hoey@AIC.NRL.Navy.Mil
------- End of forwarded message -------





From: DORIGAMI <DORIGAMI@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 11:37:04 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Re off the Origami list

Re me being off the Origami-L

Sorry about the clogged up amount of mail.  My old computer broke down.  I got
a new computer and then had trouble with it for two weeks.  Then I remembered
I could get it at  my daughters and was able a to read and catch up with it
there.  Thanks for putting me back on.  Dorigami





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 13:16:53 -0500
Subject: Re: expanding dollar bill perimeters

Jeannine Mosely wrote:
>
> I got this message on the math-fun mailing list.  I don't get the
> journal referred to.  Does anyone else?
...
> that we discussed last year will appreciate Ivan Yaschenko's paper
> "Making your dollar bigger now" in the Spring Mathematical
> Intelligencer (vol 20 no 2 pp 38-40).

Don't subscribe, but I usually buy the issues at the downtown
Pittsburgh Barnes and Noble.  I think I've seen it at Border's too.

Weirdly, it is one of the few, many the only, journal/magazine I've
heard of that is more expense to subscribe to than to get off the
newstand.

-D'gou

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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 14:28:10 -0800
Subject: Re: International Money Orders
You're asking for several different things, here, Robert.

At 16:03 -0500 1998/4/03, Robert Allan Schwartz wrote:
>What if we count:
>
>(1) all subscribers of NOA

These subscriptions are administered via NOA, not via anyone else.

>(2) all subscribers/members of Origami Tanteidan

Same with these subscriptions, but for the Tanteidan. This could double up
with orders from Origami House, though.

>(3) all patrons of Sasuga, Kinokuniya, etc

Sasuga is a US company, so the currency is not an issue. Kinokuniya has
branches in the US, so again it's not an issue.

>I bet we'd have more than a handful.

But you were talking about people on the list...

>And what about everyone (including me) who wants to order stuff from BOS? I
>recently ordered some books, and I appreciate the efforts from Nick and
>Sandy, but it wasn't easy, and it wasn't fast, and it wasn't convenient.
>(This is not a criticism of BOS, Nick, or Sandy.)

Another can of works entirely. The BOS is trying to replace their supplies
officer.

What it appears to boil down to is that you want it all, you want it now,
and you want easy. The sad fact of life is that it's not always possible.
Things are handled differently in different places. We may not like that,
but that's the way it is.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t:604.730.0306 x 105     f: 604.732.7331     e: josephwu@ultranet.ca





From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@TESSELLATION.COM>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 16:03:33 -0500
Subject: Re: International Money Orders
>>It seems to me that there are so many people on this list who are
>>interested in purchasing things in Japan, that it would be efficient to
>>establish a regular channel through which purchases could be made by credit
>>card. With credit cards, you don't have to worry about knowing the exchange
>>rate in advance, and you don't have to worry about sending cash through the
>>mail, and you don't have to wait a month for the USPO to give you a money
>>order.
>
>Uh-huh. Think about it. There are between 500 and 600 people on this list.
>A small percentage of these people actually order things overseas. Is it
>worth it for a Japanese company to set this up? I don't know how the system
>works there for setting up a business to accept credit cards. However,
>given the huge fees involved in the simplest overseas banking procedures in
>Japan, I would guess that the setup (and the running fees) would be quite
>expensive.

What if we count:

(1) all subscribers of NOA
(2) all subscribers/members of Origami Tanteidan
(3) all patrons of Sasuga, Kinokuniya, etc

I bet we'd have more than a handful.

And what about everyone (including me) who wants to order stuff from BOS? I
recently ordered some books, and I appreciate the efforts from Nick and
Sandy, but it wasn't easy, and it wasn't fast, and it wasn't convenient.
(This is not a criticism of BOS, Nick, or Sandy.)

Robert

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From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 16:15:51 -0500
Subject: Re: International Money Orders

>> So I sent the money order to Kawasaki-san, and he emailed me
>> a while later saying that he got it Okey-dokey.  Now, perhaps
>> there was a problem and he was just being polite, but from
>> my position it seemed to work out OK.
>>
>> --- Tom "that's my story" Hull
>>     thull@merrimack.edu
>>     http://chasm.merrimack.edu/~thull

That is the way it is supposed to work.  US postal service has a small list
of countries with which it has this convenient and inexpensive arrangement.
You buy US postal money order in dollars for dollar amounts.  You send the
money order as payment to NOA, for example, which approves of its use, and
the payment is completed.  I don't know what happens at the other end.  I
assume that they get their yen without much trouble  If you send an
international bank check you are charged a big sum at both ends.  James M.
Sakoda.





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 17:51:16 -0500
Subject: Re: International Money Orders
Jospeh Wu indited:

> Same with these subscriptions, but for the Tanteidan. This could double up
> with orders from Origami House, though.

Ok, I was trying to hint at this, but I guess I'll just say it
outright.  I would have
thought that Origami House would already have been set up to take
credit cards.

"Mastercard - everywhere you want to be."  I guess I'd have to go to
Japan and then I could shove that slogan where it ought to go (This
is a slam at MC, not anyone else).

I had also hoped that maybe someone currently in Japan might be on
the list...

> Sasuga is a US company, so the currency is not an issue. Kinokuniya has
> branches in the US, so again it's not an issue.

Actually, if Kinokuniya has branches in both Japan and the US (And
other countries), then (theoretically speaking) I could order from
one of their US branches and they could handle the currency and
goods exchange completely internally.  They already have
distribution and currency exchange conduits set up for all the rest
of their business, which already does include origami papers and
books, n'est-ce pas?

(Pardon the scarcasm, I know that just cause I want to spend a few
hundred dollars a year on Japanese goods only available from Origami
House and NOA and etc. doesn't necessarily justify the cost that
Sasuga, Kinokuniya, etc. have to go through to get a conduit set
up).

> What it appears to boil down to is that you want it all, you want it now,
> and you want easy. The sad fact of life is that it's not always possible.
> Things are handled differently in different places. We may not like that,
> but that's the way it is.

Perhaps, it also boils down to how stupidly difficult (stupid when
you don't know the reasons) it is to get goods/currency across
national borders.  Oh sure, its easy for governments and
international banks, but they have no incentive to make it easy for
their citizens, and certainly feel no penalities for making "retail"
transactions so difficult.  Its amazing the international mail
system works at all! (1/2 ;-)).

So, it is hard to see why England and Japan would be in any
different kind of export/import/currency class, but then it is hard
to see any rationality behind any of this.

Hmmm, I wonder if DNA has offices in Japan?  An international online
origami presence would be killer backed up by a "real goods"
distribution network for origami related materials, no?

-D'gou the impertinent

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From: Richard Davies <richardd@REDAC.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 18:18:34 +0100
Subject: Re: Sighting

In the Playstation (epic) game Final Fantasy VII, one of the characters is a
young lady Ninja whose preferred weapons are listed as Knife, Boomerang, Origami
(for throwing)!

Rich

Richard Davies                  Tel:    01454  207800  x8703
Software Engineer               Fax:    01454  207803
Zuken-Redac Ltd                 E-Mail: richardd@redac.co.uk





From: LynelleV <LynelleV@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 18:47:44 -0500 (
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Digest - 2 Apr 1998 to 3 Apr 1998

Hello,
Did the last origami digest (2 Apr 1998 to 3 Apr 1998) consist of one PDF file
and no email messages? or is something wrong here?
Thanks,
Lynelle V
LynelleV@aol.com  lvanhorn@affinity.ccare.com





From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@TESSELLATION.COM>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:26:33 -0500
Subject: Re: International Money Orders
>> Sasuga is a US company, so the currency is not an issue. Kinokuniya has
>> branches in the US, so again it's not an issue.
>
>Actually, if Kinokuniya has branches in both Japan and the US (And
>other countries), then (theoretically speaking) I could order from
>one of their US branches and they could handle the currency and
>goods exchange completely internally.  They already have
>distribution and currency exchange conduits set up for all the rest
>of their business, which already does include origami papers and
>books, n'est-ce pas?

Aha! That's what I'm struggling to articulate - an entity/business that has
branches in each country, where THEY can do the currency transfer/exchange!
And if they are an origami-related business, perhaps they could extend the
currency transfer/exchange service to support NOA, Tanteidan, etc.

>(Pardon the scarcasm, I know that just cause I want to spend a few
>hundred dollars a year on Japanese goods only available from Origami
>House and NOA and etc. doesn't necessarily justify the cost that
>Sasuga, Kinokuniya, etc. have to go through to get a conduit set
>up).

I'd rather give the "cost" to an origami-related business like Sasuga or
Kinokuniya than my local bank. BayBank wanted to charge me $25.00 to cut a
check in British pounds, so I could pay a Scotsman for a balsa wood model
airplane that cost $47.00. I had to tell the Scotsman that it wasn't worth
it to me. Extrapolate this to how much business can be lost because of this
problem.

Robert

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From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@TESSELLATION.COM>
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 20:27:43 -0500
Subject: Re: International Money Orders
>What it appears to boil down to is that you want it all, you want it now,
>and you want easy. The sad fact of life is that it's not always possible.
>Things are handled differently in different places. We may not like that,
>but that's the way it is.
>
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>Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
>t:604.730.0306 x 105     f: 604.732.7331     e: josephwu@ultranet.ca

I don't want it all.
I don't (necessarily) want it now.
I would like it to be easy, and I'm willing to make some suggestions.
What's possible, changes over time.
What I like, is irrelevant.

Robert

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955 Massachusetts Ave. #354 | fax   (617) 868-8209  | of C, C++, OOAD, OODB,
PO Box 9183                 |                       | and Java
Cambridge, MA 02139         | email notbob@tessellation.com

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