




From: ASD <zerith@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:02:32 -0600
Subject: Delurking at last...

Greetings!

Well, Jeff Kerwood asked for it. :) I've been reading the list since
December - looking forward to my daily dosage, so I guess it's time
for me to delurk now, too.

My name's Anita, and I'm fairly new to origami - folding since last
summer or so.

I'm currently working on my Ph.D. degree in Special Education at the
University of New Orleans - with an emphasis on gifted/talented, as well
as on technology.  As part of this work, for the past four years, I've
been a member of a group of teachers who offer a university-based
Saturday morning/Summer enrichment program for gifted kids (ages 5-14).
More recently, I've become this program's director.  In this group's
past, they offered several beginner and advanced origami groups, and
many staff members became involved in folding for a few semesters.  When
one group member decided to revive our origami offerings this past
summer, I took the time to look into origami more deeply myself.
Over a weekend, after perusing the variety of origami books our program
owns, and teaching myself a few basic models, I fell deeply,
irredeemably, head over heels in love.

This semester, *I'm* the one teaching the origami course, to kids aged
8 - 12.  And though I'm struggling, somewhat, to find the "best"
methodologies to expose newcomers to both the breadth and depth of this
art we love, I'm finding it a rewarding, enriching struggle.  I'm
having a wonderful time...

Though my kids call me "the expert", I still consider myself a beginner.
For me, origami is particularly interesting because of the focus,
intensity, and intimacy it demands and provides. For most people,
origami may never be more than simply a cute thing to do with paper, and
they will not wrestle to do more difficult models, or be able to revel
in the connections to math, nature, and history, etc., that I find in
origami.  I see this in teaching kids - some kids want nothing more than
to make another (fill-in-the-blank with any easy model), yet care
nothing for quality or perfection, or challenging themselves further.
Other kids can "see" further than that - and, in my opinion, truly fall
in love with origami and more deeply understand/enjoy what they are
doing.  Some kids can see the challenge and understand the concepts
(gifted young kids, especially), yet are not yet
developmentally/physically able to make the folds as perfectly as they
know they should be/can be.  I find I learn a lot about myself, and the
kids I teach, by their approach to origami.

I don't think I've been folding long enough to have a definitive
preference in what I fold, though I do feel a strong attraction both to
truly elegant, one piece designs, and multi-piece structures, especially
boxes.  I look forward to further experiments with more difficult
models, different papers, etc.  If only my silly dissertation didn't
keep getting in the way of all this!  :)

I hope this serves for sufficient introduction - thanks to all of your
for your warmth, humor, and intelligence.  I'm glad to have stumbled
across this community of folders...

Anita Senentz
Zerith@bellsouth.net

Btw, anyone geographically near by?  New Orleans has many things, but I
haven't found other folders outside of my group of close associate
teachers.





From: Gallo P & H <halgall@NETVERK.COM.AR>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:18:47 -0300
Subject: Diagrams in web page

Hi All,

I put a diagrams on my page. The diagrams are for the beginner, and two
diagrams of Ligia Montoya.

I hope you!!!

Web page: http://www.netverk.com.ar/~halgall

Happy folding.

Patricia Gallo
halgall@netverk.com.ar





From: Deborah Foreman-Takano <dforeman@MAIL.DOSHISHA.AC.JP>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:03:23 +0900
Subject: Thanks, from Nobody

I must say I'm struck by the kind, welcoming words from
members of the list, and undeserved good comments from Ms
Kuga in particular.

Let me hasten to say that I have not yet done any "great
things" in furtherance of origami, although I would be
delighted if I could do so some day. Ms Kuga, I am probably
at least as much a beginner in folding as you are, and I
do hope we can meet up some day (Aichi is not that far
away!), and teach each other from our varied origami
experiences.

Ms Kuga is right, though, in saying that the worldwide
nature of origami is a wonderful thing for this traditional
Japanese art. I find that the Japanese consider "uniqueness"
an important property of their cultural history; it is proof
of the value of Japanese things--including language--that
foreigners _can't quite_ get the hang of them.

I am taking every opportunity, of course, to point out
that people can appreciate and enjoy Japanese things
the more they _can_ get the hang of them, and that
uniqueness, while quaint and charming, is no substitute
for understanding and respect (in the broader scheme of
things).

This list is such a wonderful step in that direction.

Debi
dforeman@mail.doshisha.ac.jp





From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:10:57 +0100
Subject: Re: DeLurking

Edith,
At 23.25 15/3/1998 -0500, you wrote:

>I enjoy the mail, but sometimes feel that I am inundated by the volume.
>Are there rules of netiquette for this list?  I think that some of the
>messages could more appropriately be sent to the person asking the
>question, rather than the whole list.  I realize that sometimes answers
>build on each other, but picking up 40 messages when I log on can be
>overwhelming.

Sometimes it happens that a message is intended as a private answer but goes
to the list by mistake. People usually realize this and apologize.
As to the volume of messages, it's not a matter of netiquette: this is a big
mailing list (over 500, if I remember) and if only ten percent (on average)
send  one message a day, the result is what you see...... There is nothing
to do, I'm afraid. <:-(

Roberto
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From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:10:59 +0100
Subject: Re: Architectural Origami Workshop Ideas

Hi Tom !
At 01.24 16/3/1998 -0500, you wrote:

>Debbie Pun asked about ideas for teaching architecture themes
>using origami in K-5 classrooms.  The "pop-up" origamic
>architecture is a tempting place to start, but it's
>complicated too.  I highly suggest you try that only with
>older students.

Well, if you refer to Chatani's works or similar..... I wouldn't classify
these as "origami" properly !
Apart from that, your message is very interesting and full of ideas. Thanks !

Roberto
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From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:36:06 +0100
Subject: Pteranodon on the net

Hi all !

For those interested to my "Pteranodon" model, I'm glad to report that
instructions for it are now available on the Web (and can be downloaded as a
ZIP file for printing, if desired). Connect to the CDO website:

http://www.essenet.it/cdo

then follow the links: Models contributed by CDO members --> Models
repository --> Animals --> Pteranodon

Enjoy it !

Roberto
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ITALY                     |  what I have written ! :-)
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E-mail <morassi@zen.it>   |





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:52:07 -1000
Subject: Re: another delurker

Lisa Hodsdon wrote:
>
>
> Granted, there are some extraordinary folders and creators
> on the list. But I can't be the only one who tunes out when the
> discussion gets into "just how do you manage to do that double
> closed reverse sink in step 104 without ripping the &#$*@ paper
> to shreds???" (And can I program my computer to do it for me?)
>
> I'm with you Lisa.  And isn't the system grand that we can tune out whenever
 we want and not hurt feelings or feel guilty about what we tune out to.  I
 appreciate the choice to do that.  Aloha, Jan





From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:04:55 +0100
Subject: Re: Translations

Jeff,
At 10.26 16/3/1998 -0800, you wrote:

>I found something today, that many of you probably already know about.

Sorry, Jeff.... you are late ! We ALL know about this, the topic of
Altavista "translations" was discussed on the list exactly one month ago.
The usefulness of this service is very limited, have a look at the archives
and follow the thread "Introduction to the internet", starting Feb. 16th.

Roberto
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From: "Metzger, Jacob" <JMetzger@CITGROUP.COM>
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:38:40 -0500
Subject: Origami Mail Volume - digest instructions

Edith (and all new to the list or the internet)-

>> I enjoy the mail, but sometimes feel that I am inundated by the
volume.

The best relief for high volume of mail is to set the List to DIGEST
mode. You will get one mail a day from the list server containing all
the messages since the last digest. Here are the instructions:

>>This  list is  available  in digest  form.  If you  wish  to receive
the
>>digested  version  of the  postings,  just  issue  a SET  ORIGAMI
DIGEST
>>command to  LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU  (or  LISTSERV@MITVMA.BITNET).
(NOT, repeat NOT to origami@mit.edu)

The only downside is that there is a time lag, most notably for
"time-dated" messages (such as for example, "I have 2 copies of Viva!
Origami which I will sell for $5 each to the FIRST two people to reply
YMMV.

Yaacov Metzger





From: Eric Eros <eros@MOHAWK.ENGR.SGI.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 05:33:16 -0800
Subject: Re: introduce/delurking
Julius,

        You were wondering about unusual models.  Jeremy Shafer specializes
in, among other things (such as juggling, handwhistling, etc.) designing
unusual origami models.  He also diagrams them.

        He runs the San Francisco Origami Club (Bay Area Rapid Folders) which,
along with diagrams of several of his models, may be found at

        http://www.krmusic.com/barfup/barf.htm

--
Eric Eros





From: Faye Goldman <FayeG@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 06:18:42 -0600
Subject: Charlestown SC/Marco Island FL ?

I'm going on a business trip which will take me to
Charlestown SC and marco Island Fl.  Anyone know of any
good book or paper stores?  I always like to check out the
local area of any place I visit.
Thanks in advance,

Faye Goldman
FayeG@ix.netcom.com





From: Carole Young <youngcj@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 06:30:17 -0600
Subject: Re: Architectural Origami Workshop Ideas

I think I mentioned this earlier, but I add it again.  My mother taught
me the first origami I ever learned.  She showed me how to fold a cup.
She said you never know when you will need it for a drinking fountain
that has no pressure, to scoop water up from some place.  I have even
used a giant version for filling my radiator on a trip from the nearby
canal.  Utility can sometimes stick for some kids.  Second, paper
airplanes are origami of a sort.  Some of the easy napkin folds are
also fun - my favorite being the lotus flower.  Something for the girls
and the boys - or just general interest.

Another approach, is that many things are now purchased that can be
made out of paper.  A project could be "what things do you use daily
that you could make out of paper" = straws, boxes AND what can you make
out of recycled paper.  I use the Xerox paper package as an interesting
origami paper, picture frame paper (the ones with either designs or
just ads since they are odd and large).

Carole





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:41:10 -0800
Subject: Re: Kawahata's camel in a new book?

I've misplaced the message, so I don't remember who asked, but here's an
attempt at an answer:

Kawahata's camel (futakobu rakuda = two hump(?) camel) appears in the
1998/2/15 issue (#48). The book that appears in the photo next to the
diagrams features the camel on its cover. This book, entitled "Origami no
Michi" (The Street/Road/Way of Origami), is not by Kawahata. Although it is
written in Japanese, the author is a Chinese: CHEN Shun-chen (that's the
romanisation from the Mandarin...in Cantonese, the last name would be CHAN,
the most common last name in the world). If I got the description correctly
(and I'm not at all certain about this), Mr. Chan wrote the book, but it
would appear that the models are not his own designs.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t:604.730.0306 x 105     f: 604.732.7331     e: josephwu@ultranet.ca





From: Norman Budnitz <nbudnitz@DUKE.EDU>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:42:47 -0500
Subject: T. rex skeleton

I recently bought the English language version of Yoshino's book from OUSA.
 This URL will take you directly to The Source, their shopping page:

http://www.origami-usa.org/frames1.htm

-------------------------------------------------------------
Norman Budnitz          919-684-3592 (day)
nbudnitz@duke.edu               919-383-0553 (eve)

Dept of Zoology, Duke Univ, Box 90325, Durham NC 27708 (work)
4115 Garrett Drive, Durham NC 27705 (home)

PROGRESS: the victory of laughter over dogma.
(Tom Robbins, Half Asleep in Frog Pajamas)





From: JacAlArt <JacAlArt@AOL.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:58:22 -0500 (
Subject: Folding Fabric

Anyone know how to coat fabric so when folded, it holds its shape, yet can
still be stitched with a sewing needle? Kind of like cloth napkin folding,
maintaining its form, then needle-pointing it?

~Alec





From: McPhee <mcphee@ACCESSONE.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:03:53 -0800
Subject: CONVENTION ANNUAL COLLECTIONS...

 I have not attended any of the conventions and therefore missed out on the
materials through the years. Can anyone tell me if they think the
CONVENTION ANNUAL COLLECTIONS are worth buying as resources. Are they
original materials or can the models be found in other readily available
publications?

Thanks in advance for your responses.

-mcphee...





From: Rob Moes <robert.moes@SNET.NET>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:18:06 -0500
Subject: Re: funny/unusual models

Julius writes:

>My favorite models are funny/unusual models like "When  Pigs Grows
>Wings and Fly" by Joseph Wu or "The Enterprise" and  "The Missionary" by
>Marc Kirschenbaum (the  models are great). I'll try "The Fluffy" next.
>
>Are their any other funny/unusual models(with diagrams) out there ??

With a tip of my hat to one of our fellow subscribers, do pick up Robert J.
Lang's
*Origami in Action* (ISBN 0-312-15618-9).  Many interesting models that fit
your description perfectly.  "Kicking Otter" is soooo cute.  One of my
favorites.

Rob
robert.moes@snet.net





From: Julius Kusserow <juku@STUDI.MATHEMATIK.HU-BERLIN.DE>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:57:51 +0100
Subject: introduce/delurking

Hi,

not really a delurking, but I think it is time to introduce myself with
more than the informational e-mails I wrote.

I`m on the list since January, and practice my folding technics since last
spring, when I get my first contact to Origami.

I am studing mathematics. This I think gives a special view to Origami.
I do Origami most of the time on myself, but searching always for other
folders.

My favorite models are funny/unusual models like "When  Pigs Grows
Wings and Fly" by Joseph Wu or "The Enterprise" and  "The Missionary" by
Marc Kirschenbaum (the  models are great). I'll try "The Fluffy" next.

Are their any other funny/unusual models(with diagrams) out there ??

Julius





From: Norman Budnitz <nbudnitz@DUKE.EDU>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:03:10 -0500
Subject: T. rex skeleton (correction)

My originally posting of the URL to The Source at OUSA was not quite
correct (as was gently pointed out to me by another list reader).  Here is
the correct URL:

http://www.origami-usa-org/source.htm

Humbly yours,           Norm

-------------------------------------------------------------
Norman Budnitz          919-684-3592 (day)
nbudnitz@duke.edu               919-383-0553 (eve)

Dept of Zoology, Duke Univ, Box 90325, Durham NC 27708 (work)
4115 Garrett Drive, Durham NC 27705 (home)

PROGRESS: the victory of laughter over dogma.
(Tom Robbins, Half Asleep in Frog Pajamas)





From: MATTHEW SPARKS 05-025 <MSPARKS@PINKERTONS.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:37:21 -0800
Subject: Re: (correction) correction

  You said:
Here is
the correct URL:

http://www.origami-usa-org/source.htm
_____________________________________________________
actually just looking at it I see a typo
it would be .org not -org, so try:

http://www.origami-usa.org/source.htm

Matt Sparks





From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@CONCENTRA.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:13:40 -0500
Subject: Re: CONVENTION ANNUAL COLLECTIONS...

McPhee wrote:

    I have not attended any of the conventions and therefore missed out on the
   materials through the years. Can anyone tell me if they think the
   CONVENTION ANNUAL COLLECTIONS are worth buying as resources. Are they
   original materials or can the models be found in other readily available
   publications?

Most of the material in the OUSA Annual Collections is available
nowhere else.  They are a wonderful resource.  Buy as many as you can
afford or have room for.

        -- Jeannine Mosely





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:29:26 -0500
Subject: Re: A ??? of paper folders

Robert Lang indited:

> So would a gathering of young Hungarian folders be a Budai-butai?

And if they were still increasing their skills, would they be budding
Budai-butai?

-D'gou

--
end
<a href="http://www.pgh.net/~dwp">Doug's Fun Page</a>





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:33:48 -0500
Subject: Re: OUSA dorm

Lynelle Van Horn indited:

> Can you tell me, is there any way to get a totally NON smoking room at the
> con?  I am getting a bit worried about this.  I had intended to go to the next
> OUSA convention (it would be my first), but somebody (Jane?) recently
> mentioned that their dorm room, the last time they attended, smelled of
> cigarettes.

I haven't had that particular problem, but bringing a  "room freshener"
might not be a bad idea...  I don't think exchanging rooms is very
viable, since in the past there has been a housing crunch (Hmmm, I think
I should register under a different name this year, since the FIT
housing folks use only first initial and last name and I'm not the only
D. Philips at the convention. ;-)).

-D'gou

--
end
<a href="http://www.pgh.net/~dwp">Doug's Fun Page</a>





From: Andrew Daw <andrewd@REDAC.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:49:48 +0000 (
Subject: Re: Folding Fabric
Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85]

I don't know if it what you were thinking about, but there are some
ideas on fabric folding on the 'Fabric Origami' web page:
http://www.owt.com/gdscott
--
Andrew Daw  email:  andrewd@redac.co.uk





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:32:05 -0500
Subject: Re: CONVENTION ANNUAL COLLECTIONS...

At 10:03 AM 3/17/98 -0800, McPhee <mcphee@ACCESSONE.COM> wrote:
> I have not attended any of the conventions and therefore missed out on the
>materials through the years. Can anyone tell me if they think the
>CONVENTION ANNUAL COLLECTIONS are worth buying as resources. Are they
>original materials or can the models be found in other readily available
>publications?

The OrigamiUSA Annual Collections have very little to do with the
conventions at which they are distributed. The models used are collected
from top origami artists (as well as top origami artists in waiting) from
all over the world. Some of the diagrams eventually make it to more
commercial publications (if you can wait that long), but the majority of
the selections stay unique to the particualar collection. Over 100 models
are included, making these books one of the best origami bargains you can
find.

Marc





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:38:31 -0500
Subject: Another origami in prison movie scene sighting

I am surprized it was not mentioned yet, bnut did anyone else catch the
origami pajaritas in "The Man with the Iron Mask"? As with "Con Air,"
origami was used as a symbol of escapism in the setting of a prison. The
models were breifly shown, and if it were not for the fact I have some
familiarity with the model, I might not have even recognized it. For that
reason, this origami cameo was not nearly as effective as with the prisoner
in "Con Air." I would still be curious to find out who supplied those
classic birds (even on the big silver screen, it was difficult to determine
what materials were used).

Marc





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:41:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Delurking at last...

Greetings Anita!

> Well, Jeff Kerwood asked for it. :)

That's me - I confess.

=============

> Over a weekend, after perusing the variety of origami books our program
> owns, and teaching myself a few basic models, I fell deeply,
> irredeemably, head over heels in love.

I don't understand it but origami can really get it's hooks in ya!

=============

> I find I learn a lot about myself, and the
> kids I teach, by their approach to origami.

I hope you'll share more about this as your future unfolds. Both about your
growth and stories about the wonderful kids you have.

=============

Welcome,
Jeff.





From: morpha <morpha@COLUMBIA-PACIFIC.INTERRAIN.ORG>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:21:50 -0800
Subject: Re: Interesting paper stories to tell?

> Cool.  I for one would be interested to know what models you make from
> it, please send a followup!

I can't quite recall what I made out of that paper as I gave it away to
friends as soon as I made it.  Probably easy models that I've memorized
such as cranes, frogs, and fish.  I think I was just checking out the
foldability of the labels.  Most of the labels are still in a "to fold"
pile.

My plan is to fold something special to take the next time I visit the
fireworks store.  Something special along a Native American theme.
Eagles, bears, or salmon.

> And it is wonderful to see the reaction when you're on the
> giving end.

Yes, the giving is part of the folding ritual for me.  I give away
nearly everything I fold.  I especially love giving origami to children.

When I visit public Japanese gardens, I like to sit and fold, then
secretly leave the models in conspicuous spots for others to pick up and
enjoy.  Probably doesn't fit in with proper Japanese garden behavior,
but it's fun.

Cathy Nist





From: Bill Walker <origami@KREATIVE.NET>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:25:06 -0500
Subject: Re: OUSA conventions

DMAWolf wrote:
>    If New York is not your cup of tea go to Charlotte, North Carolina, in
> September.
> Some of the experts from other countries will be there I know and I sure there

As I have never been to a convention and wanting to go this year, I
have two question to ask.  If you could go to only one convention
this year, would you go to New York or Charlotte, NC?  And what is
the reason for your choice?





From: Gerry
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:21:04 -0500
Subject:

        Hi all!  Last night I dl'ed Valerie's instructions for the 12 card
open faced cube, and I made it today.  Looks great...everybody at work was
checking it out.  I have a whole box of out-of-date business cards and I
need more diagrams!  Any suggestions?  -Gerry





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@PB.NET>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:23:00 +0000
Subject: Re: Unit origami (was Re: DeLurking )
Priority: normal

> ekort@MCLS.ROCHESTER.LIB.NY.US said:

> Tom Hull has the awesome five intersecting tetrahedra (from his origami
> mathematics page: <URL:http://www.math.uri.edu/~hull/OrigamiMath.html>).  This
> looks lovely in five colours or just in one.
>
>

Some of these wonderful models were made for the base of the Christmas tree at
the Museum of Natural History in New York.  Amazingly, they worked well with
strips cut from ordinary, large sheets of construction paper.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Cathy <cathypl@GENERATION.NET>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:24:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Architectural Origami Workshop Ideas

At 08:02 PM 98-03-16 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi! I teach origami to 5th graders too, and I appreciate all the
>suggestions coming in. Here's a simple technique I first saw at a math
>workshop, and  maybe you already know this, but if you use an overhead
>projector and wax paper squares, the simple foldlines show up very well on
>your screen.
>

Thank you!  This sounds like a great idea!

        Cathy(4th grade teacher)
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





From: mSaliers <saliers@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:29:43 -0800
Subject: Re: A ??? of paper folders

>
> And if they were still increasing their skills, would they be budding
> Budai-butai?
>

And if all they folded and wore dollar bill ties, would they be ..

  budding bow-tie Budai-butai?

And, if they all shared the same religion, maybe ...

  budding bow-tie Budai-butai Buddhists?

And, if they were really close friends ...

  budding bow-tie Buddhist buddy Budai-butai s ?

But they were slightly deranged ...

  batty budding bow-tie Buddhist buddy Budai-butai s ?

...

Help! Help! I can't stop! Aaaaaagggghhhhh..............





From: Jan Polish <Jan_Polish@COLPAL.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:45:24 -0500
Subject: Dorms at OrigamiUSA Convention

     First, apologies for the late response to this topic ... I have
     just gotten caught up with the last 2 weeks of digests.

     As the OrigamiUSA convention coordinator, I've been reading with
     interest the comments made about the housing at our convention
     site. The comments made regarding the 'minimalist' accommodations
     at the FIT dorms are ... very, very true. We try to describe them
     accurately in the registration forms: "... housing is in basic
     (bed, dresser, desk) student dormitories and suites, in secure,
     air-conditioned, elevator buildings right across the street from
     the Convention building. Each dormitory room has two single beds,
     and access to common bathrooms (with private shower stalls). The
     suites have two bedrooms, each with two single beds, and a
     private kitchenette and bath. Cooking is allowed, but no utensils
     are provided. One set of linens (pillow, sheets, pillowcase,
     blanket, and small bath towel) will be provided...." [Can you
     tell that it's time to get the forms ready for this year, since
     I've got the copy right here!]

     So ... no hangers, no little packs of soap, no fluffy robes. Just
     inexpensive (downright cheap by NY standards), basic
     accommodation.

     And I shall tell the true story about why the linens are so
     chintzy! The school provides the pillow and blanket, but the
     group (meaning OrigamiUSA) is responsible for all other linens.
     So far, we have found only one place willing to do a
     one-time-per-year, one-week-only linen rental, and, believe it or
     not, what they provide for us is their highest quality offering!
     Makes you wonder, doesn't it. If anyone knows another, reliable,
     reasonably priced alternative in NYC, please contact me
     privately.

     Regarding cleanliness ... yes, it can be spotty. The school has
     less than a week between end of term and when our group arrives
     to clean all the rooms. So there's no time to paint, or do major
     refurbishments. And the building is getting a little old now. Two
     or three years ago we had a really bad year, and many rooms were
     poorly cleaned. Normally, though, they do a pretty good job
     within the limitations, and we only get a couple of complaints.
     And I have to say that someone's admonition to register early
     works here, too. The housing staff goes through the building and
     picks out the best rooms to use for us, based on our original
     allocation. Very late registrants tend to get put into the
     second-best rooms.

     And about smoking. I believe that the rules for students are -
     common rooms are all non-smoking, but smoking is permitted in
     bedrooms if both occupants agree. When we get a request for a
     specially non-smoking room, for people allergic to smoke, etc.,
     we pass that information on to the housing staff, and they try to
     double-check the room they assign that person to. Not always
     perfectly, but they try. Of course, for late registrants the
     choices become much more limited.

     In most cases, when there is a problem the housing staff is
     pretty good about trying to find a cleaner room, or more
     blankets, etc. With exceptions, most are very helpful, although
     they don't have cleaning staff during the weekend. They also have
     access to extra linen (we normally order plenty, except for the
     one year we made a really big boo-boo and ... but you don't need
     to hear about that!), and plenty of soap (since I work for
     Colgate-Palmolive, I bring in a handful of bars for people who
     don't realize it's not provided).

     So this is the inside story about the dorms. We are really
     grateful that we have access to inexpensive housing right across
     the street from the convention - it makes a big difference. But
     we'll never confuse the FIT dorms or suites with a real hotel!

     If anyone has any suggestions, questions or comments about the
     housing, I'd love to hear them - please email me privately. And
     if anyone has other kinds of questions about this year's
     convention, send those on also. The forms will go out at the end
     of April, as usual.

     I look forward to seeing lots of you there ... now back to my
     previous lurk position.

     Jan Polish (jan_polish@colpal.com)





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:57:30 -0500
Subject: Re: New Model/New Diagrams

> From: Julius Kusserow <juku@STUDI.MATHEMATIK.HU-BERLIN.DE>
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: New Model/New Diagrams
> Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 10:22 AM
>
> Hi All
>
> I put a new diagram on my page. It`s the "Twin Crane" I ask for weeks
ago.
> Comments about the models and especially the diagrams are welcome.
>
> You find the diagrams at
>
> http://wwp.mathematik.hu-berlin.de/~juku/01twincrane.ps
> http://wwp.mathematik.hu-berlin.de/~juku/02twincrane.ps
> http://wwp.mathematik.hu-berlin.de/~juku/03twincrane.ps
>
> Hope you enjoy it
>
> Julius

Hi Julius.

I don't know too much about this PC / Internet stuff and am having trouble
getting to your diagrams. When I try to go to them it loads for a minute or
so then says insufficient resources to launch viewer. I've closed down
everything I can. I'm wondering if these are extra big or something? I know
that sometimes when I go to other diagrams I am taken directly to the
diagrams without loading a viewer - I'm wondering if these diagrams could
be made available in that way so that I could get to them. I'd appreciate
any help you can offer.

Thanks, Jeff
jkerwood@usaor.net





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:26:14 -0500
Subject: Re: CONVENTION ANNUAL COLLECTIONS...

On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Jeannine Mosely wrote:
+Most of the material in the OUSA Annual Collections is available
+nowhere else.  They are a wonderful resource.  Buy as many as you can
+afford or have room for.

I've been hearing rumors that the '95 book is out of print.  I would
hope that is only temporary!  Anyone from OUSA able to comment?

-D'gou





From: Meristein <Meristein@AOL.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:24:01 -0500 (
Subject: Re: A ??? of paper folders

And if they wore butterfly-shaped neckwear, would they be  budding bowtied
Budai-butai?





From: Carole Young <youngcj@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:30:05 -0600
Subject: Re: Business card origami

Oh wonderful idea, we have been bought out and I now have two boxes of
business cards.  What a great concept.  Please, please diagrams!

Carole

You wrote:
>
>        Hi all!  Last night I dl'ed Valerie's instructions for the 12
card
>open faced cube, and I made it today.  Looks great...everybody at work
was
>checking it out.  I have a whole box of out-of-date business cards and
I
>need more diagrams!  Any suggestions?  -Gerry





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@MTAYR.HEARTLAND.NET>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:48:41 -0600
Subject: Re: CONVENTION ANNUAL COLLECTIONS...

yes,yes,no
Perry
Paper, scissors, stone.....
Origami, Kirigami, bludgeon....
pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/
-----Original Message-----
Date: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 2:15 PM

> I have not attended any of the conventions and therefore missed out on the
>materials through the years. Can anyone tell me if they think the
>CONVENTION ANNUAL COLLECTIONS are worth buying as resources. Are they
>original materials or can the models be found in other readily available
>publications?
>
>Thanks in advance for your responses.
>
>-mcphee...





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@MTAYR.HEARTLAND.NET>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:23:22 -0600
Subject: Re: New Model/New Diagrams

Use the right mouse button and save to file, or save picture as, or whatever
     your browser list when you click on the button to view the picture.
Perry
Paper, scissors, stone.....
Origami, Kirigami, bludgeon....
pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net

>I don't know too much about this PC / Internet stuff and am having trouble
>getting to your diagrams. When I try to go to them it loads for a minute or
>so then says insufficient resources to launch viewer. I've closed down
>everything I can. I'm wondering if these are extra big or something? I know
>that sometimes when I go to other diagrams I am taken directly to the
>diagrams without loading a viewer - I'm wondering if these diagrams could
>be made available in that way so that I could get to them. I'd appreciate
>any help you can offer.





From: acpquinn@PANTHER.MIDDLEBURY.EDU
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:49:03 -0500
Subject: Re: New Model/New Diagrams

At 07:57 PM 3/17/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> From: Julius Kusserow <juku@STUDI.MATHEMATIK.HU-BERLIN.DE>
>> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>> Subject: New Model/New Diagrams
>> Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 10:22 AM
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I put a new diagram on my page. It`s the "Twin Crane" I ask for weeks
>ago.
>> Comments about the models and especially the diagrams are welcome.
>>
>> You find the diagrams at
>>
>> http://wwp.mathematik.hu-berlin.de/~juku/01twincrane.ps
>> http://wwp.mathematik.hu-berlin.de/~juku/02twincrane.ps
>> http://wwp.mathematik.hu-berlin.de/~juku/03twincrane.ps
>>
>> Hope you enjoy it
>>
>> Julius
>
>Hi Julius.
>
>I don't know too much about this PC / Internet stuff and am having trouble
>getting to your diagrams. When I try to go to them it loads for a minute or
>so then says insufficient resources to launch viewer. I've closed down
>everything I can. I'm wondering if these are extra big or something? I know
>that sometimes when I go to other diagrams I am taken directly to the
>diagrams without loading a viewer - I'm wondering if these diagrams could
>be made available in that way so that I could get to them. I'd appreciate
>any help you can offer.

i downloaded them, converted them to pdf, and optimized them. if you want
them, they're in one file now (3 pages) that can be read by your standard
acrobat reader. the file is about 85 k in size, and i'm glad to attach it
to an email to anyone who wants it. it's a nice model, though i swear i've
seen it before somewhere...reply personally, please.

peace,
alasdair

p.s. if you want, i can do the same thing to all the .ps files in the
archives, thus making the new standard .pdf, something that many more
people can read and print off...





From: Magdalena Cano Plewinska <mplewinska@MINDSPRING.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:29:55 +0000 (
Subject: Re: Dorms at OrigamiUSA Convention

On Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:45:24 -0500, Jan Polish <Jan_Polish@COLPAL.COM>
wrote:

> now back to my previous lurk position.

Not so fast, Jan :) Where exactly is the convention held and where
exactly is FIT?

Thanks,
--
Magda Plewinska                   mplewinska@mindspring.com
Miami, FL, USA





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:41:40 -0500
Subject: Personal Emails - my turn.

Sorry I have sent a few (two I think) personal emails to this group. I vote
that we agree not to send the apology emails if the email is CLEARLY
personal (like it says HI PETE at the top). So I hope not to screw up too
many times in the future but take this as my "sorry email" (and that is
what it is) for all past, present and future infractions.

Jeff Kerwood
jkerwood@usaor.net





From: Richard 'of' Foong <ryf@ECR.MU.OZ.AU>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:13:08 +1100
Subject: Architectural Origami

On the subject of Chatani's work, I was wondering if i could sell pre-made
pop up cards to people. Would this infringe on the copywrite?

Richard





From: acpquinn@PANTHER.MIDDLEBURY.EDU
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:14:20 -0500
Subject: Re: New Model/New Diagrams

At 12:49 AM 3/18/98 -0500, I wrote:
>p.s. if you want, i can do the same thing to all the .ps files in the
>archives, thus making the new standard .pdf, something that many more
>people can read and print off...

oi...look how long it's been since i've downloaded anything from the ps
archives...looks like Alex Barber beat me to this one ages ago. ah well. it
was the thought that counted.

peace,
alasdair





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:16:16 -0800
Subject: Re: New Model/New Diagrams

>it's a nice model, though i swear i've
>seen it before somewhere...reply personally, please.

There's a simpler version done with cuts. I believe it's from the old
"senbazuru orikata" book.

>p.s. if you want, i can do the same thing to all the .ps files in the
>archives, thus making the new standard .pdf, something that many more
>people can read and print off...

Alex Baxter's already done that for the archives. Check out his web page.
<http://www.the-village.com/origami/diagram.html>

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From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:22:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Dorms at OrigamiUSA Convention

At 04:29 AM 3/18/98 +0000, Magdalena Cano Plewinska
<mplewinska@MINDSPRING.COM>  wrote:
>
>Not so fast, Jan :) Where exactly is the convention held and where
>exactly is FIT?

The OrigamiUSA Convention will be held in NYC, USA at the Fashion Institute
of Technology (FIT). As with last year, it is going to happen though the
last weekend in June. You can always check www.origami-usa.org for more
details, and OrigamiUSA members will receive a mailing in a few months.

Marc





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:24:05 -0800
Subject: Earthworm models (was Re: Robin models...)

>And since the quintessential pose for a Robin is tugging a worm out of
>the ground, I looked for worm models too, and found:
>
>  Cankerworm by Marc Kirschenbaum (Complex, uses diagonal base)
>  Inchworm by Aaron Einbond (Complex, uses twelfths base)
>
>Any comments on those (I'll post my own comments if I fold them...) or
>other worm models appreciated!

Neither are earthworms (to fit the "quintessential pose for a Robin").
Rather, they are caterpillars. I don't think I've ever seen an actual
folded earthworm model, although I've seen some dioramas where an origami
bird pulls a strip of paper (sometimes rolled) out of the ground.

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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:36:35 -0800
Subject: Re: Origami Group

At 10:57 -0500 1998/3/18, Doug Philips wrote:
>Hmmm.... That leaves me to wonder what NOA really stands for.  Is it
>really Nippon Origami Association, or is that just the name they use
>internationally?

That's the name they use internationally, but they use the acronym
themselves, since "NOA" is easier to say than "Nippon Origami Kyokai".

>> "Kenshukai" is a term used for a group or a meeting
>Would that be more like a "meeting" as in "gathering," say an Origami
>Convention, or would it (also?) apply to the members of an origami
>origanization, such as N.O.A.?

"Kenshu" is a noun meaning "research study; study and training". (It also
sounds the same as the word for "an exchange of cups of sake"...hmmmm!)
Tacking the "kai" onto the end would make it into "a group that is doing a
research study". So, like Kuga-san said, it's more accurately applied to a
group that is formed for a specific study.

A similar word is "kenkyukai". Yoshizawa-san uses this word for his
"International Origami Association" (Kokusai Origami Kenkyukai). This word
is a noun meaning "a society for the research (study) of" something.

>I've heard that the Tanteidan members do not like the term "Detectives,"
>and I'm wondering if that is due to a double translation problem
>(Detective translating back into Japanese as some word other than
>Tantei...) or what the objection is.  Perhaps the better question really
>is, not whether "Detectives" is the right translation, but if it doesn't
>describe them accurately, would there be a more accurate description,
>even if wordier?

The common translation is "Origami Detectives". I'm not sure what the
objection is to the word "detectives", but I would guess that it's more a
case of the Tanteidan members feeling that there is no need to translate
this word than any objection to the word "detective" itself.

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From: "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel@EXC.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:51:00 -0500 (
Subject: Robin?

I'm looking for a nice robin for spring.  Any suggestions?

-Joel
(joel@exc.com)





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:57:58 -0500
Subject: Re: Origami Group

Deborah Foreman-Takano indited:
(My questions are directed to any knowledgeable reader, not only Deborah
-dwp)

> "-Kai" is a common designation in Japanese for
> groups involved in investigating or doing a parti-
> cular thing. It means "Society" or "Association."

Hmmm.... That leaves me to wonder what NOA really stands for.  Is it
really Nippon Origami Association, or is that just the name they use
internationally?

> "Kenshukai" is a term used for a group or a meeting
> for the purpose of studying a certain thing, so
> "Origami Kenshukai" might also be possible.

Would that be more like a "meeting" as in "gathering," say an Origami
Convention, or would it (also?) apply to the members of an origami
origanization, such as N.O.A.?

> The "tantei" of "Tanteidan" means "detective"--
> Thus, "Group of Origami Detectives". or maybe
> more colloquially for English, "The Origami
> Investigators".

I've heard that the Tanteidan members do not like the term "Detectives,"
and I'm wondering if that is due to a double translation problem
(Detective translating back into Japanese as some word other than
Tantei...) or what the objection is.  Perhaps the better question really
is, not whether "Detectives" is the right translation, but if it doesn't
describe them accurately, would there be a more accurate description,
even if wordier?

Thanks for the info!

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From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:10:59 -0500
Subject: Robin models...

Well, El Nino has brought the robins back to Pittsburgh early this year,
so my attempt to fold and present "the first robin of spring" has been
thwarted (I'm not really complaining though).  I've been folding
Montroll's Robin from his book _Origami_for_the_Enthusiast_, and when I
went to the OUSA Database Search Site, I found one additional Robin
model:
    Robin by Joan Homewood (High Intermediate, uses bird base)
    New Adventures in Origami by Robert Harbin page 100
    Paper used is sq duo

Can anyone familiar with both please post a comparision of the models,
but the final form and the folding sequence?  I find Montroll's Robin
very satisfying, both in final result and in folding, but I'm intrigued
by the 'duo' description of Joan's model...

And since the quintessential pose for a Robin is tugging a worm out of
the ground, I looked for worm models too, and found:

  Cankerworm by Marc Kirschenbaum (Complex, uses diagonal base)
  1991 by T. Cheng et al page 52
  Paper used is sq

  Inchworm by Aaron Einbond (Complex, uses twelfths base)
  1995 by Myer Gotz page 92
  Paper used is sq

Any comments on those (I'll post my own comments if I fold them...) or
other worm models appreciated!

Thanks,
        -Daddy-o "Happy Spring!" D'gou

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From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@CONCENTRA.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:50:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Business card origami

Gerry asked for business card model diagrams. Valerie Vann has a few
posted on her web site.  I have invented several dozen different
designs and I'm starting to diagram them, but it will be a while
before a book is ready.  I have, however, submitted verbal and
ascii-art descriptions of quite a few models to the list over the last
few years, so search the archives (look for messages sent by me) and
give them a try.  Some of the descriptions are terse, and expect you
to have some knowledge of polyhedra and modular origami, so get Rona
Gurkewitz' book and anything by Fuse, and study them to learn the
general principles of modular assembly.

        -- Jeannine Mosely





From: "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel@EXC.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:59:00 -0500 (
Subject: Dancer?

And a second request:  Does anyone know of a model of a dancer??

(And as for the robin, I'm actually not too fond of Montrol's.)

Thanks again.

-Joel
(joel@exc.com)





From: DLister891 <DLister891@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:26:14 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Robin?

In a message dated 18/03/98  16:45:46, Joel writes:

<< I'm looking for a nice robin for spring.  Any suggestions? >>

A European or an American Robin? Or for that matter, an Indian Robin? Apart
from having red breasts, they're quite different.

David Lister.





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:57:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Dancer?

At 11:59 AM 3/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
>And a second request:  Does anyone know of a model of a dancer??

The Neal Elias BOS booklet contains two models that involve dancing.
Hopefully it will be back in print soon. I am also going to teach my
"Dancing Couple" model in NYC at an upcomming OrigamiUSA Special Session.
Marc





From: Kenny1414 <Kenny1414@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:11:51 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Origami Group

In a message dated 98-03-18 12:00:44 EST, you write:

> I've heard that the Tanteidan members do not like the term "Detectives,"
>  and I'm wondering if that is due to a double translation problem
>  (Detective translating back into Japanese as some word other than
>  Tantei...) or what the objection is.  Perhaps the better question really
>  is, not whether "Detectives" is the right translation, but if it doesn't
>  describe them accurately, would there be a more accurate description,
>  even if wordier?

Just wondering, what are the connotations for the Japanese translations of
    detective
    investigator
    researcher
    expert
    associate
    principal
    teacher
    professor
    student
    amateur
    professional
    ...?
You get the picture. In English these terms overlap,
with shades of meaning, associations, and connotations.
In Japanese, with the stronger emphasis on a
social pecking order, I suspect the corresponding
extensions to the dictionary meaning
of words are much more serious. Even in English,
you could theoretically insult someone by switching
terms on the list above. Imagine the problem in Japanese.

Musing out loud, (from a linguistically challenged)
Kenneth M. Kawamura
 (kenny1414@aol.com )





From: Dennis Walker <d_and_m_walker@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:29:11 -0500
Subject: Robin comparison

Hi,

        I have folded both models (Montroll's and Homewood's robin) and I
prefer Joan Homewood's.

        In my opinion,  John Montroll's model is angular and slighty ugly
whilst Joan Homewood's is more like what I would expect for a robin. But
then I'm not an ornithologist and see robin's occasionally in real life but
usually on Christmas cards!

        The duo aspect is quite simply that Joan Homewood's model will have
a breast the colour of the other side of your paper, i.e. white for normal
kami. I have successfully folded this model with two sheets of kami , one
brown and one red back to back with no glue (although folding the legs was
tricky!). It looked rather good to me. The model involves an open sink and
a colour change.

                        Hope that helps,
                                        Dennis Walker





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:50:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Dancer?

Marc Kirschenbaum wrote:
> The Neal Elias BOS booklet contains two models that involve dancing.
> Hopefully it will be back in print soon. I am also going to teach my
> "Dancing Couple" model in NYC at an upcomming OrigamiUSA Special Session.

There is also an Elias model "Last Waltz" whose photo and diagrams
showed up in one of the ORU magazines (I don't have a precise issue
number with me).  The diagrams from that are much more detailed than
other diagrams which I have seen floating around.  Great model.

I think Jeremy Shafer also has a pair of dancers in one of the back
issues of BARF (Bay Area Rapid Folders) his web site might have more
details (it was posted recently, but I think you'd be able to find a
pointer on Joseph's site too).

-D'gou

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From: "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel@EXC.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:11:00 -0500 (
Subject: Dancer?

>>And a second request:  Does anyone know of a model of a dancer??
>
>The Neal Elias BOS booklet contains two models that involve dancing.
>Hopefully it will be back in print soon. I am also going to teach my
>"Dancing Couple" model in NYC at an upcomming OrigamiUSA Special Session.

Are diagrams for either Elias' models or yours available?  When are
you teaching yours?

-Joel
(joel@exc.com)





From: Peter Mielke <pmielke@FMCO.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:35:26 -0500
Subject: Last Dance
Gnu-Emacs: it's like swatting a fly with a supernova.

> Marc Kirschenbaum wrote:
> > The Neal Elias BOS booklet contains two models that involve dancing.
> > Hopefully it will be back in print soon. I am also going to teach my
> > "Dancing Couple" model in NYC at an upcomming OrigamiUSA Special Session.

> There is also an Elias model "Last Waltz" whose photo and diagrams
> showed up in one of the ORU magazines (I don't have a precise issue
> number with me).  The diagrams from that are much more detailed than
> other diagrams which I have seen floating around.  Great model.

ORU 12 Spring 1996 pp 125-118





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:43:07 -0700
Subject: Re: funny/unusual models

Don't forget just about anything from Jeremy Shaffer.  You can find some of his
models on the BARF homepage at  http://www.krmusic.com/barfup/barf.htm
In addition his work has been in several of the Annual Collections. And
hopefully there will soon be a book.....
--
Kim Best                            *******************************
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From: Rob Hudson <rhudson@NETRAX.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:18:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Dorms at OrigamiUSA Convention

To add to Jan's statement:

I would recommend bringing at least one extra towel or something to use as
a bathmat, especially if you're in the suites.

And by college housing standards, FIT is not too bad at all!

Maybe it's time for me to update my "Convention Tips" page again? (and
maybe finish it this time??)

Rob





From: Julius Kusserow <juku@STUDI.MATHEMATIK.HU-BERLIN.DE>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:40:07 +0100
Subject: Re: funny/unusual models
Thanks to Eric Eros and Rob Moes for your hints.

Julius





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:07:37 -1000
Subject: Re: Tsuyadashi

In regards to the "tsuyadashi"...The 40ml bottle has a brush in it that
is very handy to have...no cleaning brush problem; simply set back in
the bottle as it is screwed on the the lid.  The large bottle is a
refill bottle with no applicator.
        I should mention here that tsuyadashi does not help to give body to
large models...finished pieces that are about 4 inches are perhaps it's
limits even when the inside is glued.  Anything smaller, jewelry-sized,
it's the cat's meow.
                Aloha, Jan





From: DON CONNELL <orig@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:39:46 -0500
Subject: What kind of "weird" ?

   A few years ago, I founded Triangle Origami Folders United  (TOFU).
Here in my area there is a large Japanese community. My club was
introduced to the Japanese community via a Nippon Club newsletter.  Many
TOFU members including myself have been demonstrating and teaching
origami in many International Festivals and other highly attended
related events. Even John Montroll has made an occasional appearance
here .
   Yet, there has been no response from the Japanese as far as coming to
meetings. I have since wondered why.  Recently on this list I have read
that Japanese think folders are a little "weird". This would explain why
they don't come to meetings, but  "weird" is a broad catagory. Could
somebody offer a more detailed insight on this?  Maybe if I understood
more about their thinking, maybe I could attract some Japanese (or any
other Asian group for that matter) to come to TOFU meetings.  Maybe not,
but  if things don't work it would be good to know why.

Don





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:16:25 +0100
Subject: Re: Robin?

On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, DLister891 wrote:
> In a message dated 18/03/98  16:45:46, Joel writes:
>
> << I'm looking for a nice robin for spring.  Any suggestions? >>
>
> A European or an American Robin? Or for that matter, an Indian Robin? Apart
> from having red breasts, they're quite different.
>
> David Lister.

David, someone is using your account to post messages to the list.

He could have picked a better victim, however; everyone can easily tell
that you didn't write that because it's under two pages long.

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:18:29 +0100
Subject: Re: Dancer?

On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Doug Philips wrote:
> There is also an Elias model "Last Waltz" whose photo and diagrams
> showed up in one of the ORU magazines (I don't have a precise issue
> number with me).

The _Last_Waltz_ is in Oru No. 12.

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)
