




Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 17:47:40 -0600
From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Subject: Fuse Books

I found the following book at Sasuga's website;
http://world.std.com/~sasuga/origami1.html is the link to the correct
page.

{ Origami Design }
Fuse, Tomoko [Chikuma Shobo] paperback 1995 78pp. isbn: 4-480-87264-7
$20.80

In Japanese. A book full of multi-dimensional models using multiple
sheets of paper. For fans of Fuse's unit origami, this book provides
many intricate new models to master

Does Anyone own this book ?  I am looking for another good modular book
to buy.  I already have Unit Origami and I am looking for something
along those lines.

Things I would like to know are;
are the models truly modular or compounds
are the models of polyhedra or objects
are the models made from square or non square paper
and a rough estimate of the number of different "units" in the book.

TIA

B R E T T

B R E T T





Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 19:05:44 +0000
From: Richard Kennedy <r.a.kennedy@BHAM.AC.UK>
Subject: Trying to contact Jay Marshall

Hi list

Can anybody help with this enquiry, which I have received from David
Petty:

>              I have had an enquiry from a US citizen (based in Japan)
> regarding dollar bill folds. He says he wants to contact Jay Marshall with
> regard to publishing his own dollar bill models. Can you remind me of Jay's
> email address. This would seem to be the quickest way to get the pair
> corresponding.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> David Petty.
>
> my address is ukpetd@aol.com
>

With thanks

Richard K
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 19:33:13 +0000
From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Subject: Re: Fuse Book found at Sasuga

Brett asked about:
>
>{ Origami Design }
>Fuse, Tomoko [Chikuma Shobo] paperback 1995 78pp. isbn: 4-480-87264-7
>$20.80
>
>I already have Unit Origami and I am looking for something
>along those lines.
I think this is, but not as exhaustive.
>
>are the models truly modular or compounds
They're modulars, if that means all pieces are the same.

>are the models of polyhedra or objects
Polyhedra.
In the first section of the book, the end flap of the unit is woven
through slits in the adjoining unit. Scissors needed! The resulting
planes have beautiful two-color abstract designs. There are also
color-change units.

>are the models made from square or non square paper
Mostly square (some start square and have an edge sliced off after a few
folds). There is a 2 x 1 module, and one made from long strips pleated
into triangles and woven.

>and a rough estimate of the number of different "units" in the book.
Maybe 13? Hard to tell what to classify as different.

The caveat is that scissors are needed for maybe half the models in the
book (But I haven't used glue on any of the ones I've tried).

Hope this helps!

Jane





Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:12:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Meristein <Meristein@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: BOS members please read

Greetings from Michael Weinstein. The email is:

                        Meristein@AOL.com





Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:36:42 +0000
From: Penny Groom <penny@SECTOR.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: BOS members please read
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

I am compiling a list of the e-mail addresses of BOS members as I have
been asked to do many times.I have decided now is the time to do it,I've
probably got most of you but please send me a message so I can be sure I
have the correct address ( especially if you hand wrote it when you told
it to me rather than printing it!) This does not apply to council
members and people who write to me regularly!

Thanks

Penny
------------------------------------------
Penny Groom                Membership Secretary
                           British Origami Society
penny@sector.demon.co.uk
Stairwell's homepage.
http://www.sector.demon.co.uk/index.htm
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:57:56 -0500 (EST)
From: DORIGAMI <DORIGAMI@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: origami files and storage

Hi Diane, Welcome to the club...I now call my house a warehouse and this
description fits the best.  I am now purchasing the plastic containers with
lids whenever they are on sale.  Put models in plastic  bags and right into
the container.  At least it looks better than cardboard boxes and they stack
nicely.  Each container is labeled.  I have the yarmalke patterns on the table
ready to send you...I have not forgotten.  Love, Dorigami





Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 23:04:05 -0500 (EST)
From: DORIGAMI <DORIGAMI@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Mailing Origami from Dorigami

Please send mailing address once more.  My models are in the envelope ready to
send but I have lost mailing snail mail address.  Dorigami





Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 23:45:19 -0300
From: Vulcano <vulcano@BR.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Subject: Re: BOS members please read

LILIAN SANT ANNA MONTEIRO - BRAZIL
vulcano@br.homeshopping.com.br

At 22:36 04/03/98 +0000, you wrote:
>I am compiling a list of the e-mail addresses of BOS members as I have
>been asked to do many times.I have decided now is the time to do it,I've
>probably got most of you but please send me a message so I can be sure I
>have the correct address ( especially if you hand wrote it when you told
>it to me rather than printing it!) This does not apply to council
>members and people who write to me regularly!
>
>Thanks
>
>Penny
>------------------------------------------
>Penny Groom                Membership Secretary
>                           British Origami Society
>penny@sector.demon.co.uk
>Stairwell's homepage.
>http://www.sector.demon.co.uk/index.htm
>BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 00:53:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Kenny1414 <Kenny1414@AOL.COM>
Subject: kenny1414@aol.com -- Kawamura,
 Kenneth M. (was Re: BOS members please read )

Aloha Penny,

Member Nbr.: 1796
Name: Kenneth M. Kawamura
E-mail: kenny1414@aol.com
Mail:
        P.O. Box 6039
        East Lansing, MI  48826-6039
        USA
Home:
        328 N. Fairview
        Lansing, MI 48912-3110
        USA
Date: 1998-03-04

Aloha,
Kenneth





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 00:58:45 -0500
From: Lucille Dan <ADan731534@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Origami in VISA ad

Call Visa, ask what Ad agency they use, then ask the agency which artist they
used for the ad.





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 07:31:17 -0500
From: Michael Clark <mdc@IVC.COM>
Subject: NO - Haiku error messages
Comments: To: Origami Mailing List <Origami@MIT.EDU>

I had to send this to the list in light of the recent haiku thread.  I'm
uncertain as to attribution .

 Haiku Error Messages
 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 Three things are certain:
 Death, taxes, and lost data.
 Guess which has occurred.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Everything is gone;
 Your life's work has been destroyed.
 Squeeze trigger (yes/no)?
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Windows NT crashed.
 I am the Blue Screen of Death.
 No one hears your screams.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Seeing my great fault
 Through darkening blue windows
 I begin again
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 The code was willing,
 It considered your request,
 But the chips were weak.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Printer not ready.
 Could be a fatal error.
 Have a pen handy?
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 A file that big?
 It might be very useful.
 But now it is gone.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Errors have occurred.
 We won't tell you where or why.
 Lazy programmers.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Server's poor response
 Not quick enough for browser.
 Timed out, plum blossom.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Chaos reigns within.
 Reflect, repent, and reboot.
 Order shall return.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Login incorrect.
 Only perfect spellers may
 enter this system.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 This site has been moved.
 We'd tell you where, but then we'd
 have to delete you.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 wind catches lily
 scatt'ring petals to the wind:
 segmentation fault
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 ABORTED effort:
 Close all that you have.
 You ask way too much.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 First snow, then silence.
 This thousand dollar screen dies
 so beautifully.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 With searching comes loss
 and the presence of absence:
 "My Novel" not found.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 The Tao that is seen
 Is not the true Tao, until
 You bring fresh toner.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 The Web site you seek
 cannot be located but
 endless others exist
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Stay the patient course
 Of little worth is your ire
 The network is down
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 A crash reduces
 your expensive computer
 to a simple stone.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 There is a chasm
 of carbon and silicon
 the software can't bridge
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Yesterday it worked
 Today it is not working
 Windows is like that
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 To have no errors
 Would be life without meaning
 No struggle, no joy
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 You step in the stream,
 but the water has moved on.
 This page is not here.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 No keyboard present
 Hit F1 to continue
 Zen engineering?
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Hal, open the file
 Hal, open the damn file, Hal
 open the, please Hal
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Out of memory.
 We wish to hold the whole sky,
 But we never will.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Having been erased,
 The document you're seeking
 Must now be retyped.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 The ten thousand things
 How long do any persist?
 Netscape, too, has gone.
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Rather than a beep

 Or a rude error message,
 These words: "File not found."
 >>>- - - - - - - - - - - -
 Serious error.
 All shortcuts have disappeared
        Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
<<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>>
Michael Clark                <> The boy, ah say, the boy's
IVC,Inc.                     <> about as sharp as a
Apex, North Carolina         <> bowlin' ball!
mdc@ivc.com                  <>           - Foghorn Leghorn
http://www.ivc.com           <>





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:11:38 -0800
From: Eric Eros <eros@MOHAWK.ENGR.SGI.COM>
Subject: Re: Question on big folding paper

I have found square colored (on one side) paper
13 3/4 inches on a side--$9 for 30 sheets at

Goshado Co Books Stationary
1748 Buchanan Street
San Francisco, CA 94115
(415) 921-0200

--
Eric Eros





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:38:46 -0400
From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Subject: Re: NO - Haiku error messages

Michael Clark wrote:
>I had to send this to the list in light of the recent haiku thread.
>I'm uncertain as to attribution .

These are from a Salon Magazine competition. The original list with
attributions to each author can be found in the Magazine's archives
for Feb. 10, 1998 with an editorial about how they reached the net
community on Feb. 24, 1998.

If http://www.salonmagazine.com/archives/1998/date02.html
doesn't take you directly to the Feb. 98 archives, then clip the
address off after *.com and proceed from there.

 >Haiku Error Messages
 >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 >Three things are certain:
 >Death, taxes, and lost data.
 >Guess which has occurred.
 <snip>

 I have no connection to Salon Magazine other than it is probably
 the web-site I hit most often (not counting the one that my browser
 opens to automatically). This daily, web-published magazine features
 good writing on current topics as well as a generally very civil chat
 site with something for almost everyone, though I haven't found anyone
 there discussing origami...

 Lisa
 Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:16:29 -0800
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Subject: Re: Origami in VISA ad

>> impressive. It appeared to be multiple pieced origami. The skirt of the

>This model sounds as if it might be by Neal Elias (of "Last Waltz" fame.) Pat
>Sisler of our L.I.F.E. group made them for our origami winter olympics
>Christmas tree. The model was of two dancers from one sheet of paper; she
>added
>skates. The instructions are in the out of print B.O.S. publication honoring
>Neal Elias diagrammed by Dave Venables.

Nope. Definitely not in Neal Elias's style. Too many pieces of paper are
involved.

>I've no idea who folded the models for the Visa ad but Ros Joyce did some
>origami for I.B.M. which should be in print by now. They originally asked for
>olympic symbols and then, after Ros created several models, they chose to use
>only the flower she created which is the symbol of Nagano.

Ah...where are these being used? My contacts at IBM didn't mention anything
about htat. Also, I got an email from Russia asking for help on a model of
the Olympic "snowflower"...a model that I'd not heard of.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t:604.730.0306 x 105     f: 604.732.7331     e: josephwu@ultranet.ca





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:19:52 -0500
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Subject: Re: Question on big folding paper

At 05:14 PM 3/5/98 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi !!!
>
>            I have a friend who got from a friend ( and so on...making it
>impossible to trace the source) a block of color paper for origami. The
>unsual thing about it is its size: square colored paper of about 40-50
>centimeters or so ( something between 15 to 20 inches).
>
>            Does anyone know where to buy such big origami paper ?

The OrigamiUSA supplies center (The Source) sells such paper. You can go to

                                www.origami-usa.org

Marc





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:48:51 -0600
From: Carole Young <youngcj@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Question on big folding paper

You want solid or patterned?  I have used giant sized calendars with
success and of course wrapping paper.  I have also used the large rolls
of paper that are used in doctors offices to cover the examination
tables.





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 16:36:49 -0500
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@TRANSARC.COM>
Subject: New Origami Books!

Since I haven't seen this news "break" on the group yet...

There are two new origami books _about_ to hit the shelves:
        The Ultimate Origami Kit, by John Morin
        Russian Origami, by Sergei Afonkin and Thomas Hull

I have seen an early copy of John Morin's kit, it comes with paper, and
materials to make an origami mobile, along with a folded two piece eight
point star!  Unfortunately John had no control over the book title,
which apparently is just one of a series of "Ultimate" kits...

I'm looking forward to seeing Sergei's and Tom's book, as I missed the
"Russian Origami" class that Tom taught at the '97 Origami USA
convention.

The following was cut'n'pasted from www.amazon.com's pages:

The Ultimate Origami Kit : The Complete Step-By-Step Guide to the Art of
Paper Folding
    by John Morin
                             Hardcover, 80 pages
                             Published by Courage Books
                             Publication date: February 1998
                             ISBN: 076240017X

Russian Origami
   by Sergei Afonkin, Tom Hull, Thomas Hull

                            Not Yet Available: You may still order this
title. We will ship it to you when it is released by the publisher.

                            Paperback, 160 pages
                            Published by St. Martin's Press
                            Publication date: March 1, 1998
                            ISBN: 0312169930

--
end
<a href="http://www.pgh.net/~dwp">Doug's Fun Page</a>





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 17:14:53 +0100
From: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Subject: Question on big folding paper

Hi !!!

            I have a friend who got from a friend ( and so on...making it
impossible to trace the source) a block of color paper for origami. The
unsual thing about it is its size: square colored paper of about 40-50
centimeters or so ( something between 15 to 20 inches).

            Does anyone know where to buy such big origami paper ?

            Thanks.





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 17:42:13 -0800
From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Origami survey results

Greetings,

I've got the results of my little survey from about fifty members on this
mailing list and I'm sharing
this sampling with all of you.  I broke it up into the following categories:

Childhood learners and Adult learners;  Solitary or Collaborative learning;
Pursuit as Hobby and/or $$$
Teaching voluntary and/or paid;  Teaching individuals or families;  Social
appeal or Individual appeal
Obstacles to learning origami-lack of interest and exposure vs. short
attention span and last but not
least-Model mentioned most

There were a few more people who learned origami in childhood than in
adulthood about 5% more.
About 50% of the members in the sample learned it on their own from a book.
About 50% of those
who said they learned as children did it with family members (parents or
siblings). About 95% of those
who did the survey pursue origami as a hobby, but a few do sell their
models, or jewelry or do workshops
for pay.  One person does it to supplement retirement income by selling
jewelry at craft shows and makes
a decent profit.

In the teaching category, half the sample taught it on a voluntary, informal
basis and the other half did
paid workshops as well as informal, unpaid teaching.  Also those who were
teaching origami taught it to
family groups as much as to individuals.  The majority of respondents
thought that the main obstacles to
learning (and/or teaching origami) was lack of interest, exposure and manual
dexterity as opposed to short
attention spans or impatience.  It has more individual appeal as a novelty
than as something that would
appeal to the masses.  Also culture plays an important part in its practice,
function and appeal.

A boat was the model that was mentioned the most.  By coincidence a junk
boat was the oldest model to survive
and be discovered by anthropologists at a gravesite in China, if I remember
my origami history correctly.  I
just thought that was an interesting bit of trivia.

Regards,
Ria Sutter





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 18:11:30 -0500
From: Bill Walker <origami@KREATIVE.NET>
Subject: Re: Question on big folding paper

Regarding large origami paper, I have had success with Kim's Crane.
http://www.kimscrane.com

Bill Walker

Marc Kirschenbaum wrote:
>
> At 05:14 PM 3/5/98 +0100, you wrote:
> >Hi !!!
> >
> >            I have a friend who got from a friend ( and so on...making it
> >impossible to trace the source) a block of color paper for origami. The
> >unsual thing about it is its size: square colored paper of about 40-50
> >centimeters or so ( something between 15 to 20 inches).
> >
> >            Does anyone know where to buy such big origami paper ?
>
> The OrigamiUSA supplies center (The Source) sells such paper. You can go to
>
>                                 www.origami-usa.org
>
> Marc





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 18:14:48 -0600
From: Shawn Allen <teach_it@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject: turtle

I am new here.  I have been doing some origami for years and once knew how
to do a turtle that I found in a book from the library.  The book has long
since disappeared and I can no long remember how to make this turtle and the
only other ones I can find are not the same turtle I remember with such
fondness.  I think the book was John Montroll's "Animal Origami for the
Enthusiast" but I am not sure.  Can anyone help me?  A few hints may be all
I need to awaken this hazy memory.  Thanx





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 18:40:15 -0800
From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Sutter's reply to own survey

Greetings again,

I wanted to share some info about myself through my survey:
1)  I learned origami as a teen from a book gotten as a Christmas gift from
my uncle.
2)  I figured out the folds on my own because it was like doing puzzles.  To
me it was magic! It
    was as enchanting as the Nutcracker that the uncle gave to his niece in
The Nutcracker Ballet.
3)  I do it mostly as a hobby, but I have been paid to do workshops,
birthday parties, centerpieces,
    and jewelry.
4)  No
5)  No
6)  Yes, I teach it to groups and indviduals, mostly to kids.  I have an
origami club open to families
    at the library.  I do get paid for workshops, birthday parties,
centerpieces and jewelry.
7)  I'm not professional, but I wish that I was.  Finding out that Joseph Wu
does origami as a hobby
    was as surprising and amusing for me as my assumption about it being a
living for him was to him.

8)  I'm working on promoting origami family workshops in my area.  I teach
it when I sub for local
    art teachers.
9)  My survey proved to me that it is wishful thinking that origami would
ever become very popular,
    but perhaps as Kim best implied it would lose its magic if it was in the
mainstream of activities.

10) Yes, there are lots of good, fun activities besides origami.  I just
happen to be partial to it,
    because I'm not good at competitive sports and it's become kind of an
obsession with me too as it
    has for others on the list.

Well that's a wrap or should I say "fold"!
Ria Sutter





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 19:12:10 -0500
From: DON CONNELL <orig@WEBTV.NET>
Subject: Bard of Baloney does Haiku
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

I want to make cranes.
Paper allergies aren't fun.
Still, ACHOOS to fold.

          Thank you!





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 20:21:09 -0600
From: Belinda Holbrook <holbrook@REVEALED.NET>
Subject: Re: New Origami Books!

     I just purchased the Ultimate Origami Kit at out local Waldenbook
store tonight! The trouble with kits is that you can't open the book to
see what's inside. But I thought it was a good value for $15.98. I wasn't
expecting the book to be hardcover. It includes two sizes of paper, the
folded star, and a metal hanger complete with strings to make a mobile.
There weren't too many pieces of paper. The thing I couldn't believe was
all the packing. The two packages of paper were held in place by velcro.
The package of smaller paper had a series of little flaps so the paper
would stay fanned out just right.

Belinda Holbrook





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 20:50:26 +0800
From: Ian & Karen Mitchell <paris@ACCESSIN.COM.AU>
Subject: WA orchid
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

Clare wrote:
>take a reddish brown sheet of paper (rough textured if you like) and place
flat on table >colour side up - it is now complete - the true Western
Australian native orchid (they live >entirely underground).

Nice try Clare!! but think its been done.. (I called it Leonora Landscape)
besides its really a model of the ground. The orchid may grow underground,
but it definitely has a shape..
Ian from Western Australia (nice to find a fellow folder in this state)
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* Paper..fold..pleat..crinkle..scrunch..toss..Abstract Origami Ball! *





Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 23:12:08 +0000
From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@PB.NET>
Subject: Valerie's rose cube
Priority: normal
Comments: Authenticated sender is <mandrk@mail.pb.net>

At our L.I.F.E. meeting tonight, Andrew Han wowed us with Valerie's cube made
with six dollar bills. He made the rose using the black side and the calyx
units the green. Most impressive!

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 00:59:28 -0600
From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@MTAYR.HEARTLAND.NET>
Subject: Re: turtle

The Turtle in AOE is made starting with the preliminary base.  Does that help?
Perry
Paper, scissors, stone.....
Origami, Kirigami, bludgeon....
pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net

I think the book was John Montroll's "Animal Origami for the
>Enthusiast" but I am not sure.  Can anyone help me?  A few hints may be all
>I need to awaken this hazy memory.  Thanx





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 07:28:28 -0800
From: Jim Cauble <jimc@SESSIONWARE.COM>
Subject: history

Hi.

        I'm new to this listserver, but I thought maybe someone could
help me.  I'm doing a project on origami for my Japanese class, and I'm
having trouble attaining information on the history of origami.  I got
some off the net, but not much.  The project is due the 13th.  Can
anyone help?  Thanks in advance!                -Mel





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 08:59:49 -0800
From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: childrens' origami story

Greetings,

     Has anybody heard of the book "The Origami Truce"?
If you have you could e mail me direct at sutterj@earthlink.net and tell me
where I might find it.

     By the way, I enjoyed all the origami haiku and poetry on the list lately!
Also, thanks for all the comments and info that I've gotten from my survey!

Regards,
Ria





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:24:05 -0300
From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Subject: Re: turtle

Hi,

Montroll's "A.O.f.t.Enthusiast" does contain a nice turtle. Some features may
help you to recognize (or not) your beloved :^) model:
- it resembles a river (snapping?) turtle [long tail, wide paws], not a
  sea or land species
- the shell is quite convex, but not so much as in Lang's models in O.Animals
  and O.Zoo
- there's a distinctive rectangular "patch" of folded paper in the shell's very
  top
- the triangular eyes are color-changed

Hope that helps, A.O.f.t.E. is easily available (blessed be Dover).

        Sincerely,
        Carlos
                furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:56:40 -0800
From: Eric Eros <eros@MOHAWK.ENGR.SGI.COM>
Subject: Re: Looking for Human Figures

David Brill's "Brilliant Origami" has human figure diagrams.

There are Japanese origami books with human figures.  I don't know the names
of the books--if you have access to a good Japanes bookstore like Kinokuniya
in San Francisco, they should carry the books.

--
Eric Eros





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 10:14:01 -0500
From: Rick Bissell <rick@TRIDELTA.COM>
Subject: origami sighting
>Received: from sparcy.tridelta.com (root@sparcy.tridelta.com
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 for <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:11:36 -0500

I was outside yesterday pushing my kids on the swing when a helicopter flew
overhead at a very low altitude.  We looked up and saw someone slide open
the hatch and proceed to dump the contents of a large sack into the air.
The helicopter continued on, leaving behind what appeared to be an expanding
cloud of multicolored debris falling to the earth.

There was a slight breeze, and the unidentified fluttering objects, which
had initially been dropped directly overhead, were now slowly drifting east
as they descended to the ground.  I told the kids to stay put, and took off
through the backyards of my neighborhood in chase.  Unfortunately, a few
miles later, my efforts were thwarted when I came upon the barrier fence of
Interstate 90.  Sadly, I leaned against the fence watching as the objects
floated down on the neighborhood just on the other side of the freeway.
Then I walked back home.

The incident was reported in this morning's newspaper.  The objects were
described as "a clever multiple piece origami cube, that could be
transformed into a flower by sliding the colorful sides of the cube apart".
Hundreds of them were found.

I had planned to stop and look around the "ground zero" area this morning on
the way to work, but alas...it's raining.....





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 10:47:25 -0700
From: Nigel Pottle <fowlerj1@CADVISION.COM>
Subject: Re: turtle

I don't know where the turtle thread started, but the messages this morning
were serendipitous to say the least, since I folded a beauty this morning
after I woke too early. It's on the Italian Origami web site (Centro
Diffusione Origami) http://195.31.193.71/cdo/tartaru.htm. The fold is
called Tartaruga by Francesco Miglionico and might be considered a land
turtle or tortoise. Even though the written instructions are in Italian, I
had no difficulty following the diagrams. One tricky part where you have to
do a sink with a hidden point, but really, it's relatively obvious from the
diagrams. Step 24 has a lock. The translation is "Insert the point between
the two layers of the body (carapace). It's especially effective using
double-sided light (chiaro) and dark (oscuro) green paper.

By the way, I don't actually speak Italian, but I did spend six weeks there
once and have picked a little. I also used my travel spanish to help.

This is a great model. Try it out.

Nigel Pottle

----------
> From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: turtle
> Date: Friday, March 06, 1998 5:24 AM
>
> Hi,
>
> Montroll's "A.O.f.t.Enthusiast" does contain a nice turtle. Some features
may
> help you to recognize (or not) your beloved :^) model:
> - it resembles a river (snapping?) turtle [long tail, wide paws], not a
>   sea or land species
> - the shell is quite convex, but not so much as in Lang's models in
O.Animals
>   and O.Zoo
> - there's a distinctive rectangular "patch" of folded paper in the
shell's very
>   top
> - the triangular eyes are color-changed
>
> Hope that helps, A.O.f.t.E. is easily available (blessed be Dover).
>
>         Sincerely,
>         Carlos
>                 furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 11:35:54 -0800
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Subject: Re: Looking for Human Figures

>There is "Jose Greco" by Neil Elias in Randlett's _Best_of_Origami_ (if
>you are in the USA you can get this book via interlibrary loan).

Of course, poor Ariel is in Sweden.  ;-)

>Also, Luigi Leonardi has a couple of gymnast figures that might be
>adaptable (they are in the 1995 OUSA Annual Collection).

Yes, those are good. There's also a bunch of humans in Dave Brill's
"Brilliant Origami" and a "human base" in one of Harbin's books. And
there's the base to Steven Casey's "Santa Claus" (that the Biddles
simplfied into "Father Christmas") that is useful for generalising into
human figures.

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 12:22:21 -1000
From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Subject: Re: turtle

Shawn Allen wrote:
>
> I am new here.  I have been doing some origami for years and once knew how
> to do a turtle that I found in a book from the library.  The book has long
> since disappeared and I can no long remember how to make this turtle and the
> only other ones I can find are not the same turtle I remember with such
> fondness.  I think the book was John Montroll's "Animal Origami for the
> Enthusiast" but I am not sure.  Can anyone help me?  A few hints may be all
> I need to awaken this hazy memory.  Thanx

There is a traditional turtle in Biddle's "The New Origami" but its the
only time I have seen that particular turtle in a book. Aloha, Jan
--
<http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 12:52:01 -0500
From: Lucille Dan <ADan731534@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Question on big folding paper

You can go into any crafts or art supply store; they sell rolls of "Fadeless"
paper, which is colored on one side, white on the other. Art stores also
carry rolls and sheets of fine art paper; Canson charcoal paper or any
charcoal paper is good and comes in a variety of colors. Photography backdrop
paper comes in huge rolls. Lucille





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 13:03:49 -0600
From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Subject: Re: Looking for Human Figures

I would try the book "Brilliant Origami" by David Brill, it has many
human figures in it.  He has one model called Walking Man that may be
adapted to your saluting soldier.

B R E T T

-----Original Message-----
From: Ariel [mailto:ariel@DATAPHONE.SE]
Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 9:10 AM
Subject: Looking for Human Figures

I Have a friend doing his military service and I thought of making for
him a
soldier, which more or less is a human figure of a man, with one arm
doing
the typical military salute ( the hand extended pointing to his
tempo/forehead or whatever)

So far the only mention to a human figure is this one I got from Origami
USA
database:

>Human Figure by Jessie Seto (High Intermediate, uses bird base)
>1995 by Myer Gotz page 204

Does anyone have the diagrams for it or a picture of it ?

or even better...can anyone recommend me any detailed folding of a man
that
could be used as a base for something looking like a soldier doing the
military salute ?

thanks.





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 13:14:03 -0500
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@TRANSARC.COM>
Subject: Re: Looking for Human Figures

Ariel wrote:
> So far the only mention to a human figure is this one I got from Origami USA
> database:
>
> >Human Figure by Jessie Seto (High Intermediate, uses bird base)
> >1995 by Myer Gotz page 204

There is "Jose Greco" by Neil Elias in Randlett's _Best_of_Origami_ (if
you are in the USA you can get this book via interlibrary loan).

Also, Luigi Leonardi has a couple of gymnast figures that might be
adaptable (they are in the 1995 OUSA Annual Collection).

I'm sure that there are others.  Sadly, when I searched for Greco in the
OUSA website database, nothing came back that indicated this was a human
figure, so its not immediately clear to me how to construct a search for
all human figures in that database.

-D'gou

--
end
<a href="http://www.pgh.net/~dwp">Doug's Fun Page</a>





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 14:40:23 -0500
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@TRANSARC.COM>
Subject: Re: Question on big folding paper

Lucille Dan wrote:
> You can go into any crafts or art supply store; they sell rolls of "Fadeless"
> paper, which is colored on one side, white on the other. Art stores also

In general, that is pretty good advice.  Unfortunately, in Pittsburgh at
least, places like "Colours" and "Top Notch" and other commercial art
supply and craft stores have not been stocking/selling Fadeless.  I was
able to get a mega roll of 4' wide green fadeless about a year ago at
the downtown "Colours" for a discontinued-item sale price of about $5.
University art stores are another good place to look.  In Pittsburgh
(for any three river lurkers!) the CMU Art Store has a very nice
selection of artisan papers and some Fadeless, though its been a while
since I've been in to check on them.

I haven't seen "backdrop" paper at any of the local commercial or
university art stores.

A quick phone call could save you the hassle of a wasted trip!

-D'gou

--
end
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 15:19:26 -0500
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@TRANSARC.COM>
Subject: Re: Looking for Human Figures

Being ornery, I went back to the OUSA web site search page for V'Anns
database and noticed that the 'category' list included 'human' so I
spoke to soon before.  Oy Yoi Yoi!

Lots of results from that search!  If you don't have access to that
site, reply to me personally (dwp@transarc.com) and I'll email you the
results.
                -D'gou

--
end
<a href="http://www.pgh.net/~dwp">Doug's Fun Page</a>





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 15:22:29 -0500
From: James Minoru Sakoda <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Subject: Re: Looking for Human Figures

>I Have a friend doing his military service and I thought of making for him a
>soldier, which more or less is a human figure of a man, with one arm doing
>the typical military salute ( the hand extended pointing to his
>tempo/forehead or whatever)
>
There is a tin soldier doing the salute in James M. Sakoda's Modern
Origami, which has just been reprinted by Dover Publications.
James M. Sakoda





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 15:29:05 -0500
From: acpquinn@PANTHER.MIDDLEBURY.EDU
Subject: Re: Looking for Human Figures

At 01:03 PM 3/6/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I would try the book "Brilliant Origami" by David Brill, it has many
>human figures in it.  He has one model called Walking Man that may be
>adapted to your saluting soldier.

also, if you can get your hands on the BOS booklet by Neal Elias, i believe
there's a generic standing human figure in there that could easily be adapted.

peace,
alasdair





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 16:07:53 -0500
From: acpquinn@PANTHER.MIDDLEBURY.EDU
Subject: heh...check this one out

http://www.ii.uib.no/~kjartan/aikidofaq/bilder/humor/origami.gif.html

peace,
alasdair





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 16:09:50 +0100
From: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Subject: Looking for Human Figures

I Have a friend doing his military service and I thought of making for him a
soldier, which more or less is a human figure of a man, with one arm doing
the typical military salute ( the hand extended pointing to his
tempo/forehead or whatever)

So far the only mention to a human figure is this one I got from Origami USA
database:

>Human Figure by Jessie Seto (High Intermediate, uses bird base)
>1995 by Myer Gotz page 204

Does anyone have the diagrams for it or a picture of it ?

or even better...can anyone recommend me any detailed folding of a man that
could be used as a base for something looking like a soldier doing the
military salute ?

thanks.





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 17:32:54 -0800
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Subject: [NO - Admin] Setting people to nomail
Comments: To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MIT.EDU>

Due to the number of people who have let their mailboxes get full, I am
getting lots of bounced mail. (At least a third of these people are from
AOL...) Therefore, in self defence, I am setting people to NOMAIL whenever
I start getting "mailbox full" mail bounces from their email addresses.
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 17:55:21 +0000
From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@PB.NET>
Subject: Re: childrens' origami story
Priority: normal
Comments: Authenticated sender is <mandrk@mail.pb.net>

> Greetings,
>
>      Has anybody heard of the book "The Origami Truce"?
> If you have you could e mail me direct at sutterj@earthlink.net and tell me
> where I might find it.
>
>      By the way, I enjoyed all the origami haiku and poetry on the list
 lately!
> Also, thanks for all the comments and info that I've gotten from my survey!
>
> Regards,
> Ria

I've been told the story by teachers. It is apparently one of the stories in a
school reading text book. If you can't find out which one, e-mail me and I'll
ask around and find out for you.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 18:13:26 -0500
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@TRANSARC.COM>
Subject: Re: Looking for Human Figures

James Minoru Sakoda wrote:
> There is a tin soldier doing the salute in James M. Sakoda's Modern
> Origami, which has just been reprinted by Dover Publications.

Searching for "Sakoda" on the OUSA/V'Ann database doesn't find anything
referenced back to that book, but hopefully now that it is reprinted it
can be added.  Thanks for pointing it out.

I know that authors have been somewhat reluctant to "promote" their own
books, which is
understandable.  In this case I'm glad you did, because even though I
have this book and have read through it (even folding a few models), I
hadn't remembered this one was there.

-D'gou

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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 18:49:54 -0700
From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: Re: origami sighting

Rick Bissell wrote:

> .................
> I had planned to stop and look around the "ground zero" area this morning on
> the way to work, but alas...it's raining.....

hmm...   Makes you think.

Speaking of wierd sightings....   Am I the only one who thinks of origami when I
see the black cape transform into a dog, in Madonna's "Frozen" video?

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    * I don't get impeachment.    *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Don't low crimes beat       *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * high misdemeaners any day?  *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 19:52:11 -0500
From: Lucille Dan <ADan731534@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: big paper

Hi Marc:
By the way, I noticed a new paper product in an art store today; the Fadeless
brand art paper now comes double sided. The rolls run anywhere from 24" to
36" and maybe higher. This is a strong medium weight paper, good for boxes.
Lucille Dan





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 20:00:43 -0500
From: Jeff Ellis <ellis7@EROLS.COM>
Subject: pternodon model

 Hello everyone.
About a week ago, we were talking about a model for a pternodon.  I
found a book that has one.  Here is the description:

{ Kyoryu no Origami - Origami Fantasy }

Kawahata, Fumiaki [Origami House] hardcover 1995 180 pp. $43.90

In Japanese. Eighteen complex to high complex dinosaurs and mythical
animals. This is the dinosaur book you've been waiting for. Newly
published
in mid-1995, this book of complex dinosaur models gives you the most
realistic complex origami dinosaurs anywhere. Models include:
protocertops, apato-saurus,pternodon, triceratops, tyrannosaurus,
allosaurus, parasaurolophus, lanbeosaurus, miaisaura, archaeopteryx,
stryacosaurus, dimetrodon, tuojiangosaurus, ankylosaurus, sutegosaurus,
unicorn and pegasus. A must have for complex origami enthusiasts.

It can be found at:
http://world.std.com/~sasuga/origami1.html

Hope this is helpful!
Jeff





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 20:06:13 +0100
From: Dino Andreozzi <dion@HEM.PASSAGEN.SE>
Subject: SV:      Looking for Human Figures

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Frn: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Till: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Datum: den 6 mars 1998 18:51
mne: Looking for Human Figures

can anyone recommend me any detailed folding of a man that
>could be used as a base for something looking like a soldier doing the
>military salute ?
>
>
>thanks.
>

Hi Ariel,
there is a model of a gymnast in Quadrato Magico No.12. The model was
created by Luigi Leonardi. With some changes could be transformed to the
military figure you are looking for.
BTW Luigi Leonardi has done a lot of models representing human figures so
you will certainly find something that could be usefull for your project.

Regards

Dino





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 20:40:40 -0800
From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: Looking for human figures

Greetings,

     There are human figures in Origami Omnibus by Kunihiko Kasahara and in
Origami Made Easy by
the same origami artist.   The man figure is on page 114 of Origami Made
Easy, and on page 367 in
his other book.  Hope that helps!

May the fold be with you,
Ria Sutter





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 20:43:58 -0500 (EST)
From: RGS467 <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Subject: Wallpaper
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

I have had great success wetfolding wallpaper (the secret is to backfoil it
while wet).   I would like to find the biggest role of black wallpaper(acrylic
coated) that is available.  Unfortunately, black is not a popular color in
wallpapers.... any suggestions?
R. Sutherland (rgs467@aol.com)





Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 22:23:34 -0800
From: mSaliers <saliers@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Subject: Re: origami sighting

Rick Bissell [SMTP:rick@TRIDELTA.COM] wrote:

> I was outside yesterday pushing my kids on the swing when a helicopter flew
> overhead at a very low altitude.  We looked up and saw someone slide open
> the hatch and proceed to dump the contents of a large sack into the air.
> The helicopter continued on, leaving behind what appeared to be an expanding
> cloud of multicolored debris falling to the earth.
>

A neighborhood where it rains Rose Cubes? Where is this area? Some of us
may want to move  :-)

Mark





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 00:04:32 -0500 (EST)
From: RGS467 <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Subject: A stupid question...?

Is there any way to fold paper, then coat it with some sort of metal?    I
would asume that the flash point of any paper would be lower than the melting
point of any practical metal.  How about spraying vs. dipping?  Anybody have
any experience working with this concept?





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 02:45:57 +0100
From: maarten@rc.service.rug.nl (Maarten van Gelder)
Subject: [NO - Admin] Setting people to nomail

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Date:         Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:32:54 -0800
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Subject:      [NO - Admin] Setting people to nomail
Comments: To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MIT.EDU>

Due to the number of people who have let their mailboxes get full, I am
getting lots of bounced mail. (At least a third of these people are from
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I start getting "mailbox full" mail bounces from their email addresses.
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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 08:29:08 -0500
From: Lucille Dan <ADan731534@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: origami sighting

What city and state did you see this sight?





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 11:00:22 -0500
From: Lucille Dan <ADan731534@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Question on big folding paper

If you're in an area where there are no big arts or crafts supply stores,
your local paper party palace may have some basic stuff like 'Fadeless'.
Otherwise, you can order through art catalogues. Pearl Paint, Utrecht Art
Supply (especially fair priced), NY Central Art Supply (a huge range of
papers) have a wide variety and are usually discounted. Some places will even
give you sample cuts for free. Call 1-800 Information for their no.s to order
their pamphlets. Lucille





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 11:06:18 -0500
From: Lucille Dan <ADan731534@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Wallpaper//black color

You can coat paper with colored acrylic gesso or paint; this will knock out
two birds at once: it will seal AND color the paper. Acrylic mediums dry very
fast and are very flexible. I have used clear acrylic to coat metallic papers
that usually break when folded alot. When coated with acrylic they remain
firm and flexible (plus you can wipe them off with a damp cloth!).





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 11:36:32 -0600
From: April Ammons <azureus@PROBE.NET>
Subject: Re: Question on big folding paper
At 02:40 PM 3/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Lucille Dan wrote:
>> You can go into any crafts or art supply store; they sell rolls of
"Fadeless"
>> paper, which is colored on one side, white on the other. Art stores also
>
>In general, that is pretty good advice.  Unfortunately, in Pittsburgh at
>least, places like "Colours" and "Top Notch" and other commercial art
>supply and craft stores have not been stocking/selling Fadeless.
[del]
>I haven't seen "backdrop" paper at any of the local commercial or
>university art stores.
>
>A quick phone call could save you the hassle of a wasted trip!
>
>-D'gou

I was able to order fadeless and various solid-colored backdrop papers
in large rolls through companies like Demco, Upstart, and The Library Store
when I was working at a public library.  I don't have their phone numbers
myself
anymore, but a quick call to your local public library should get you the
information.

April





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 12:05:10 -0500 (EST)
From: ROBINMACEY <ROBINMACEY@AOL.COM>
Subject: Oldest Paper Planes Wanted
Comments: To: Origami@MIT.EDU

The New Scientist magazine has a regular page of questions & answers posed /
answered by readers.

The current issue dated 7th March 1998 has the following question by someone:

PAPER CHASE
 Did people make paper aeroplanes before the Wright brothers flew and, if so,
when were they first made?

I wondered if any origami history experts might like to reply and state oldest
known published instructions for the paper dart etc. Email address for replies
is:

           lastword@newscientist.com

Magazine requests correspondents to also supply their postal address. Question
reference when replying is "Paper Chase". Past and present questions posed by
readers is available on:         http://www.last-word.com/

Please also post your answers on origami-l for the rest of us to read!

Cheers

Robin Macey
email robinmacey@aol.com
Nottingham
England





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 12:53:57 -0500
From: Jeff Ellis <ellis7@EROLS.COM>
Subject: A translation please? re: Miura-ori Maps

Hello.  A while back, I wrote asking about map folds.  I wanted to thank
everyone for their help.  Today, I found a web site that describes how
to fold the Miura-ori Map fold.  Unfortunately, it is not in English.
They do have diagrams, and it does look easy.

Of course, looking as easy as it does, I can not yet figure out step 10.

I was hoping that someone might be able to help?  Or at least tell me
what step 10 says?

The web address is:
http://www.ec-lille.fr/~u3p/textang/pliage1a.html

Thanks!
Jeff





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 13:07:01 -0500
From: Jeff Ellis <ellis7@EROLS.COM>
Subject: Paper Airplane Propulsion

 Hello.
I guess this is catch up day for me ;-)

A while back... we were talking about how to keep a paper airplane off
the ground.  We were discussing if it would be possible to use a piece
of cardboard to create an updraft while walking behind an airplane in
flight.

I wanted to share with the group that I have had success with this, and
I wanted to say more about how I did it.

1.  Be sure to be indoors.  This will not work outside... because even
the slightest breeze will throw off the model.

2.  I have not yet used a plane.  Instead, I folded a piece of paper to
look like this
__________!
!

I got this idea from Chris Miller.  Thanks!  Defiantly the right tract.
Very easy fold.  Simply take a strip of paper (say 1 1/2 inches by 4
inches) and bend the two ends (maybe 3/4 of an inch) so that the profile
looks like the above "diagram".

3.  Use light paper, like Telephone Book paper.

4.  This "plane" flies by spinning.  It is very pretty to watch,
especially of the paper has 2 colors - one on each side.  In any case,
it practically starts spinning as soon as it is dropped.

5. Walk behind the "plane" with a piece of cardboard.  I have found the
top of a box of copy paper works well... but any cardboard sheet will
do.  It is much easier if the sheet is large.  I recommend at lest 2
feet by 3 feet.  This makes it much easier... especially in the
beginning.

6.  Experiment with the angle that the board is held, and the speed you
walk.

7. I have found most success when keeping my model JUST above the top of
the cardboard.

                      *model
                \
                 \
                  \
                   \(board)

I have not yet had success with a model glider.

Thanks again for everyone's help, and I hope that this list of
directions will help anyone else interested in trying this technique.

Jeff





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 13:48:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Barbra0336 <Barbra0336@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: history

In a message dated 3/6/98 10:07:05 AM, you wrote:

<<I'm
having trouble attaining information on the history of origami.  >>

Try Joseph Wu's web site.  Try a book by Isao Honda, The World of Origami.
Several books have a little information regarding history and tradition.





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 14:09:26 -0600
From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Subject: Re: Metal origami

RSG467 asked:
>Is there any way to fold paper, then coat it with some sort of metal?

If your intention is to have the appearance of metal, but not necessarily
the rigidity, there is good acrylic paint available in tubes and jars. It
comes in gold, silver and copper and has ground mica to give it a
metallic sheen. It is widely available in art supply stores.

Jane





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 16:25:28 -0500
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From: Gerry & Robin Lempicki <lempicki@PSYCH.UMASS.EDU>
Subject: spraying paper/metal
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

>From:    RGS467 <RGS467@AOL.COM>
>Subject: A stupid question...?
>
>Is there any way to fold paper, then coat it with some sort of metal?    I
>would asume that the flash point of any paper would be lower than the melting
>point of any practical metal.  How about spraying vs. dipping?  Anybody have
>any experience working with this concept?

        How abt the spray cans of 'stainless steel' or chrome-like sprays?
I used one long ago, it might give the effects you are looking for.  It is
like a paint that appears to be shiny metal.





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 16:33:51 -0500
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From: Gerry & Robin Lempicki <lempicki@PSYCH.UMASS.EDU>
Subject: turtle
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

Yesterday someone made reference to the turtle at
http://195.31.193.71/cdo/tartaru.htm
Well, I printed it out today...it's a fun model!  After 2 of them I can do
it by memory.  I think it's one my neices will love!   I agree that the only
tricky part is refolding the sink into the proper place so that the head and
tail come out right.  On the first one I missed the part about burying the
rear two pleats of the sink.  Thanks for the reference to this one!





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:07:54 -0500 (EST)
From: RGS467 <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Subject: Metal Origami
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

I mentioned yesterday that I was interested in coating origami with some sort
of metal.  There have been several responses regarding my inquiry, however
they all give tips on how to make the paper "look" like metal...I have found
(and used) metallic wallpapers and foils, etc...   but that's not really what
I have in mind. Thanks everyone for the ideas, but maybe I need to consider
the possibility of building up layers by atomizing the metal using metallergy
techniques...(you think it would bond to foil?)

OK...so it's a strange concept...but, what I have in mind is to coat my giant
insect collection in metal...but would like for the folds to still be evident
in the paper.

I've thought about lost wax casting origami... Anybody tried this?  Does it
work?
Just  thought I'd ask.                                  Russell.





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:12:01 -0500 (EST)
From: RGS467 <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Montroll's Turtle
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

I have been folding for years, and Montroll's turtle was one of the first
models I learned.  In fact, I have made probably over a hundred....I have it
memorized.

At any rate, I am new to the web and enjoy sharing my interest and knowledge
with others...Being from of Texas, I have no one to relate to on an advanced
level:(

I have the instructions for the model as well as an example of one I did
(scanners are great).         Russell





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:47:38 -1000
From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Subject: origami haiku

The cold moon broke through
        the window where once her
                 thousand cranes so valiantly flew.
Jan

--
<http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder





Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 17:52:42 +0100
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Subject: Re: pternodon model

Jeff,
At 20.00 6/3/1998 -0500, you wrote:

>About a week ago, we were talking about a model for a pternodon.  I
>found a book that has one.

Years ago, I invented a nice pteranodon. So far it has only been published
in a CDO booklet of my own models. I can try and find a way to distribute
the model through the Net, if there is some interest.

Roberto
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Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 18:53:57 -0500
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Re: history

AND try searching this mail list's message archive!
especially for messages from David Lister.
David has been writing to this list about the
history of origami for ever...

valerie
