




Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 11:05:15 -0500
From: Amanda Mathiesen <mathiesn@TIAC.NET>
Subject: Re: person with origami dream
Comments: To: Origami Mailing List <Origami@MIT.EDU>

First, I wanted to say what a gracious and knowledgeable list this is.
Several people wrote me privately with insight into the situation of my
friend, who wants to publish and teach about origami.

Kevin said:

> Is Mr. Wang already associated
>with a college?  If so, I imagine things become considerably easier.

Afraid not.  I am going to meet with him at noon today and will see his
resume then.

Kevin, you list great ideas for origami classes.  Origami definitely has
applications in many fields.  The problem is getting one's foot in the
proverbial door.

My father-in-law, who teaches Slavic languages, suggested to me that there
are essentially two paths to teaching origami at the college level.  One
could get one's Ph.D. and land a faculty job, as Tom Hull did, then work
origami into one's classes.  I don't think that this will turn out to be
possible for my friend, as he is already on in years.  Alternately, one
could teach through a university extension school, where the requirements
are somewhat looser.  I called Harvard Extension yesterday, but they
laughed at me.  Chalk this one up to naivete.

>        Keys to succeeding in convincing them will include there being some
>student demand.

Good point.  Marketing, marketing.

>        It would probably be helpful if he had a syllabus for a proposed
>class available, or at least a prospectus.

This is another good point.  I will talk to him about this.

>        They sound nifty.  Are they modular, by any chance?

His peacock is modular, but most of his other works aren't.  He favors the
single-piece-of-paper approach.

Thanks again to everybody who offered assistance.  I will ask Mr. Wang
today if he would like to join this list.  He's unfamiliar with computers,
but I'm sure he would benefit from talking with people here.

Amanda





Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 11:33:05 -0800
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Subject: [NO - Admin] Learning about Listserv

Those of you wishing to learn more about how to use the LISTSERV software
that this mailing list is now running on may want to check out the online
manuals (including printable versions in many different formats) at
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:21:08 -0500
From: "James B. Raasch" <jbraas01@STARBASE.SPD.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject: New Model Upload
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

Hello All,

I just uploaded my first creative origami work to the FTP archive, a b-wing
fighter from Star Wars.  it is in the models directory, as b-wing.ps.  Let me
know what you think, particularly about the diagrams.  Thanks a lot.

J.B. Raasch





Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:22:17 +0800
From: Ian & Karen Mitchell <paris@ACCESSIN.COM.AU>
Subject: Thanks
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

Thanks everyone.. (for abacas)..
I had a similar idea of converting Uchiyama's Bookcase (series of pleats,
sunken corners etc as the frame) but was having difficulty in forming
"beads" to attach to the pleats.
The idea of the True Woven Dodecahedron by Brill is a great idea for the
beads, (would be a huge model :) in end result!! )
I like the idea of the Nut.. guess I'm going to have to get creative!!! and
develop something.
To: Mr Fluharty. I was not meaning to be critical.. just a warning for
others that sometimes literal translators can give some very unflattering
messages if used for communicating. (I can imagine mentioning  "not seen
you" being equated to "you are unsightly")

Ian
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:15:46 -0800
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Subject: Re: Some questions from a new member

>My name is Jeff, and I am a new member of the Origami list.  I have been
>studying Origami for a few years now, and am very excited to have found
>a group of people with a similar inturest.  I think that this is really
>cool.

Welcome aboard to our own brand of madness. 8)

>I do have two origami related things that I have been looking for for
>some time.  I was hoping that someone might have run into one of these
>two things.  They both appeared on the TV show NextStep on the Discovery
>Channel.

I've heard of that show, but haven't seen it.

>1.  Does anyone know anything about map folds?  Specifically, the fold
>that NASA uses send their satelites into space so that they can be
>expanded in space?

That would be Prof. Miura's "Miura-ori". Check out Tom Hull's ori-math
bibliography website for more info (there's a link from my page; URL below).

>2.  On the same show... a man made an origami airplane out of very light
>paper.  He then gently tossed the plane.  He had a square board (about 2
>feet by 2 feet) in his hands, and he held it at an angle so as to create
>a bit of an updraft.  He then walked slowly behind this plane, and the
>lift created by the board was enough to keep the airplane afloat!  It
>was  incredible.  I have never seen any book make direct mention of this
>model or technique.  I have tried to make many models that have enough
>structure to support light paper, and have been unsuccessful.  Did
>anyone else see this episode?

I've heard about this technique. From what I've been told about this, it is
do-able for most glider-type airplanes (as opposed to the dart-type).

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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:16:59 -0800
From: Jeff Ellis <ellis7@EROLS.COM>
Subject: Some questions from a new member

Hello everyone-

My name is Jeff, and I am a new member of the Origami list.  I have been
studying Origami for a few years now, and am very excited to have found
a group of people with a similar inturest.  I think that this is really
cool.

I do have two origami related things that I have been looking for for
some time.  I was hoping that someone might have run into one of these
two things.  They both appeared on the TV show NextStep on the Discovery
Channel.

1.  Does anyone know anything about map folds?  Specifically, the fold
that NASA uses send their satelites into space so that they can be
expanded in space?

2.  On the same show... a man made an origami airplane out of very light
paper.  He then gently tossed the plane.  He had a square board (about 2
feet by 2 feet) in his hands, and he held it at an angle so as to create
a bit of an updraft.  He then walked slowly behind this plane, and the
lift created by the board was enough to keep the airplane afloat!  It
was  incredible.  I have never seen any book make direct mention of this
model or technique.  I have tried to make many models that have enough
structure to support light paper, and have been unsuccessful.  Did
anyone else see this episode?

I hope so.

Jeff





Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:21:56 -0500
From: DON CONNELL <orig@WEBTV.NET>
Subject: Re: Some questions from a new member

There is a map fold in  "Complete Origami" by Eric Kenneway on page 106.

Don Connell





Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:44:42 -0500
Date-warning: Date header was inserted by pobox1.oit.umass.edu
From: Gerry & Robin Lempicki <lempicki@PSYCH.UMASS.EDU>
Subject: insects & paper
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

Kim Best wrote:
>In addition to going light on the creases.  You might want to try using a paper
>other than kami.  The best model, I have been able to achieve with kami, still
>had a big white burr on the top of the neck.  (It might be my imagination,
but I
>swear I can see a burr in the same place, on the mantis photo in Lang's book.)
>
>I have been able to fold a really good model with a 10 inch square of Ryomen
>Zome.
>It's available from Fantastic Folds, or Kim's Crane.  Although they both
seem to
>have only 6 inch squares, at this time.  Are the 10 inch squares available?  I
>have also seen good results with Notahyde.

Kim, thanks for the input!  I will be on the lookout for some of that paper too!





Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:22:34 -0500
From: Jeff Ellis <ellis7@EROLS.COM>
Subject: Re: Some questions from a new member

> >1.  Does anyone know anything about map folds?  Specifically, the
> fold
> >that NASA uses send their satelites into space so that they can be
> >expanded in space?
>
> That would be Prof. Miura's "Miura-ori". Check out Tom Hull's ori-math
>
> bibliography website for more info (there's a link from my page; URL
> below).
>

Thank you.  You knew exactly what I was talking about.  I found:Miura,
Koryo, Map fold a la Miura style, its physical character and application
to the space
     science, Proceedings of the First International Meeting of Origami
Science and
     Technology, H. Huzita ed. (1989), 39-49.
on the web page.  Is this something a college library would have?  I
don't think that my college has any origami journals.  Do you know where
I might look?

> >2.  On the same show... a man made an origami airplane out of very
> light
> >paper.  He then gently tossed the plane.  He had a square board
> (about 2
> >feet by 2 feet) in his hands, and he held it at an angle so as to
> create
> >a bit of an updraft.  He then walked slowly behind this plane, and
> the
> >lift created by the board was enough to keep the airplane afloat!  It
>
> >was  incredible.  I have never seen any book make direct mention of
> this
> >model or technique.  I have tried to make many models that have
> enough
> >structure to support light paper, and have been unsuccessful.  Did
> >anyone else see this episode?
>
> I've heard about this technique. From what I've been told about this,
> it is
> do-able for most glider-type airplanes (as opposed to the dart-type).
>

Do you recall where you heard about the technique?

Thanks!
Jeff

> ----------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 22:25:21 -0500
From: Rosalind F Joyce <fold4wet@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Sad news
Comments: cc: pweinbergpe@juno.com

To all of you who participated in our efforts for 1000 cranes, the many
prayers, wonderful good wishes and warm stories, Sue enjoyed them all.
The 1000+++ crane mobile brought her good cheer.  Sadly, she died this
morning.  It's difficult to type through tears.  If anyone needs
information about funeral parlor for this weekend, e-mail me at
Fold4wet@juno.com
     Ros Joyce

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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 22:55:58 -0800
From: chris <chris@ORI.NET>
Subject: Re: Some questions from a new member
Jeff Ellis wrote:

> 2.  On the same show... a man made an origami airplane out of very light
> paper.  He then gently tossed the plane.  He had a square board (about 2
> feet by 2 feet) in his hands, and he held it at an angle so as to create
> a bit of an updraft.  He then walked slowly behind this plane, and the
> lift created by the board was enough to keep the airplane afloat!  It
> was  incredible.  I have never seen any book make direct mention of this
> model or technique.  I have tried to make many models that have enough
> structure to support light paper, and have been unsuccessful.  Did
> anyone else see this episode?
>
> I hope so.
>
> Jeff

  I know EXACTLY what you're talking about, i just can't remember from which
paper airplane book it's from.
When I volunteered (still do) in the Children's museum of
indianapolis(largest in the world :P) We had a 'Fly Zone' in the middle of
the gallery which i helped work in sometimes, and we made all sorts of paper
airplanes.  If you know what i'm talking about you need a paper airplane
with the sillouhette(sp?) of something like this:
 ________|
|

so when you just drop it on the floor, it tumbles over itself.  When we put
it in front of a board, and played with the angle, we could make it climb,
and stay up for awhile.  So if any of you origami-wizzies out there know of
the tumbler-type-thing I'm talking about, post up the instructions on the
whole list, because everyone deserves to know.

Chris ( I should change my first name because there are too many Chris')
Miller - chris@ori.net
Sophomore - Brebeuf Jesuit Preparatory High School.
*waveses*





Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 22:57:15 -0800
From: V'Ann Cornelius <vann@LHT.COM>
Subject: Re: Some questions from a new member
John Collins's second book on airplanes has a video, I heard, showing
this
technique. The folders in San Francisco told about John's demonstrations
at
their Cherry Blossom Festival last April.

V'Ann

Jeff Ellis wrote:
>
>
>
> > >2.  On the same show... a man made an origami airplane out of very
> > light paper.  He then gently tossed the plane.  He had a square board
> > (about 2 feet by 2 feet) in his hands, and he held it at an angle so as to
> > create a bit of an updraft.  He then walked slowly behind this plane, and
> > the lift created by the board was enough to keep the airplane afloat!  It
> > >was  incredible.  I have never seen any book make direct mention of
> > this model or technique.  I have tried to make many models that have
> > enough structure to support light paper, and have been unsuccessful.  Did
> > >anyone else see this episode?





Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 23:58:29 -0300
From: Hugo Alejandro Gallo <halgall@NETVERK.COM.AR>
Subject: Argentina Origami Page

Hi to all!!

Thanks to Joseph, Valeri, Eric and others for visit the page.

My page is complete, for the moment only in spanish.
I put the diagrams of "bases" (the common), history, photos with folds,
biography of Ligia Montoya, links and more.

If you want any commentary or suggestion of my page and if you want to have
a link to your pages, please, let me know it by private e-mail.
This page is the first in Argentina about origami, and I want to be the
best in it.

 The page is running on

http://www.netverk.com.ar/~halgall

Cheers & Happy Folding

Patricia Gallo





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 07:23:38 -0300
From: "Jorge C. Lucero" <lucero@IPE.MAT.UNB.BR>
Subject: Re: Sorry,              this one was meant to be private->   Re:
 Argentina Origami Page

> argentine origami page. So now we are two argentines on the list.

three!.... :)

Jorge
lucero@mat.unb.br





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:33:47 -0800
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Subject: Kawahata's Unicorn (was RE: Sorry, this one was meant to be private)

On Friday, February 20, 1998 1:25 AM, Ariel [SMTP:ariel@DATAPHONE.SE] wrote:
> Changing the subect, does anyone know if the unicorn from by Kawahata
> Fumiaki in the Origami Tanteidan newsletter is the same
> of the one in the book Origami Fantasy ?

Yes.

Joseph Wu, Origami Artist & Multimedia Producer
T: (604)730-0306 x 105    F: (604)732-7331   E: josephwu@ultranet.ca
W: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:03:03 -0500
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Origami at the College Level

I've long thought that modular origami could be used
as an inexpensive way to teach a class in manufacturing,
quality control issues (and accompanying statistics, for
example), workgroup vs linear assembly line methods, etc.

For instance, a class could choose which model to manufacture,
analyse the quantities of materials, train in making the "parts",
study supply of materials issues (where to get reliably, how
much they cost, what is most suitable and why), how to get
consistent quality in making the modules while making enough of
them fast enought, meeting deadlines, all those kind of issues...

The math aspects are there too (geometry, algebra, statistics).
American businesses are always frantically trying to find
employees who can read directions, cope with quality control
methods, etc. You wouldn't need a lot of expensive equipment
to do a class in this with origami.

Valerie





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:59:24 +0100
From: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Subject: Re: Argentina Origami Page
>My page is complete, for the moment only in spanish.

spanish ? spanish ? what's that  :-)

>This page is the first in Argentina about origami, and I want to be the
>best in it.

Argentine ?

ARGENTINE ?

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

Heeeeeellpppppppppppppppp !!!!

And argentine on the net !!!!

AAAHHH

ahora somos dos. ji ji ji

Bueno, visite tu pagina. Esta buena.

En realidad somo varios argentinos que estamos que incognito
en el newsgroup.

Aca hay otro: Leonardo A Helman <lhelman@usa.net>

Y tambien hay otra chica con la que intercambie un par de emails....que
estaba en el la lista original de Holanda.

Bueno, saludos.

>
> The page is running on
>
>http://www.netverk.com.ar/~halgall
>
>Cheers & Happy Folding
>
>Patricia Gallo





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:03:24 -0600
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa_Macias_Carlos?= <CGMACIAS@TELMEX.NET>
Subject: Re: Sorry,              this one was meant to be private->   Re: A
 rgentina Origami Page

> > argentine origami page. So now we are two argentines on the list.
>
        >three!.... :)

        >Jorge
        >lucero@mat.unb.br

Are there other people that speak in spanish in the list ?

I think would be interesting to know the different languages that
speak the members of the list (additional to English), but not
too many ! (hopefully).

BTW, I'm mexican (obviously speaking Spanish).

/8-) Carlos Garca M
cgmacias@telmex.net





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:09:32 -0600
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa_Macias_Carlos?= <CGMACIAS@TELMEX.NET>
Subject: Re: Origami at the College Level

        Valerie Vann wrote:

        >I've long thought that modular origami could be used
        >as an inexpensive way to teach a class in manufacturing,
        >quality control issues (and accompanying statistics, for
        >example), workgroup vs linear assembly line methods, etc.
        >
        >For instance, a class could choose which model to manufacture,
        >analyse the quantities of materials, train in making the
"parts",
        >study supply of materials issues (where to get reliably, how
        >much they cost, what is most suitable and why), how to get
        >consistent quality in making the modules while making enough of
        >them fast enought, meeting deadlines, all those kind of
issues...
        >
        >The math aspects are there too (geometry, algebra, statistics).
        >American businesses are always frantically trying to find
        >employees who can read directions, cope with quality control
        >methods, etc. You wouldn't need a lot of expensive equipment
        >to do a class in this with origami.
        >
        >Valerie

I read (I believed that was in the "Classic Origami" book from Mr
Sakoda)
that origami can be useful for the Computer Science people (specially
for the programmers) because there is a methodology involved, instruc-
tions that need to be followed step-by-step (same as algorithms in
programs) and the use of flow diagrams (similar to the diagrams in
Origami).

Probably it could be an interesting option the teaching of Origami
in an introductory couse of Programming.

/8-) Carlos Garca M.
cgmacias@telmex.net





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:24:45 +0100
From: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Subject: Re: Sorry,              this one was meant to be private->   Re:
 Argentina Origami Page

Sorry, my last email was in spanish and meant to be private. It was a
welcome in spanish to the first
argentine origami page. So now we are two argentines on the list.

Changing the subect, does anyone know if the unicorn from by Kawahata
Fumiaki in the Origami Tanteidan newsletter is the same
of the one in the book Origami Fantasy ?

cheers,

Ariel/





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:40:57 -0800
From: Jean Villemaire <villemaire@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Subject: Re: flower instruction on website
On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Paul & Jan Fodor wrote:
>
> > I'm being asked how to fold a flower by an emailer; does anyone have
> > flower instructions on their website I can refer him/her to?
> >                 Thank you, Jan
> > --
> > <http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
> > Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder
> >Also, we have a beautiful orchid on our website, under "orchidee" title.
It's in pdf and can be viewed with Adobe's Acrobat Reader (we offer a link
for that):

http://econo1.ecn.ulaval.ca:80/~pgon/origami/modeles/modeles.html

                ___________________
                |                 |
                |                 |
                |                 |
                |      }---{      |
                |      |0 ,0      |
                |     /'\   \     |
                |    |'''|  |     |
                |    |'  /  /     |
                |____|  /_ /______|
                    |/-/"-"-|       Le harfang des neiges,
Jean Villemaire     |       |       embleme aviaire
Montral, QUEBEC    |_______|       du Quebec

             mailto:villemaire@videotron.ca
                Origami-Montreal :
http://tornade.ere.umontreal.ca/~gonzalep/origami.html





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:50:22 -0500
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@TRANSARC.COM>
Subject: Re: flower instruction on website
Jean Villemaire wrote:
> > >Also, we have a beautiful orchid on our website, under "orchidee" title.
> It's in pdf and can be viewed with Adobe's Acrobat Reader (we offer a link
> for that):
>
> http://econo1.ecn.ulaval.ca:80/~pgon/origami/modeles/modeles.html

Agreed, that is a very nice model.  It has an interesting folding
sequence, and while the inside of the paper gets a little bit thick I
was able to make nice models from 3" paper.

-D'gou

--
end
<a href="http://www.pgh.net/~dwp">Doug's Fun Page</a>





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:02:21 -0500
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@TRANSARC.COM>
Subject: Cerberus Models

A few questions/inquiries about that famous three headed guardian of the
underworld...

I have only been able to find two diagrams for this model.  The first is
Lang's model in Ansill's Mythical Beings and the second is Montroll's
model in Montroll's Mythological Beings and the Chinese Zodiac.

Searching the origami-l archives for this model (with various spellings)
turned up only those two models.

My first question:  Are there any other versions of this model?  If so,
are the diagrams published?  If so, where?

My second question:  Is Lang's model nicer looking than the photo of
it?  Back in 1994 Joseph Wu noted that this model was the only one from
that book which he couldn't fold (Hi Joseph!), and as recently as Nov
'97 Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@ahand.unicamp.br> noted that the
diagrams were particularly difficult to follow.  I checked out Namir
Gharaibeh's Origami Book Errata & Hints page at
http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/z/zbrown/origami/origami.errata but
this model is not mentioned.

I know, I know, Jay Ansill didn't have a lot of control over the book.
I'm not bashing him, just looking for more info on Lang's model.  Esp.
if it is published elsewhere with different diagrams.  While V'Ann's
database is big, there is a lot it still doesn't cover...

Thanks,
        -D'gou





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:28:20 +0100
From: Julius Kusserow <juku@STUDI.MATHEMATIK.HU-BERLIN.DE>
Subject: Re: flower instruction on website

0
On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Paul & Jan Fodor wrote:

> I'm being asked how to fold a flower by an emailer; does anyone have
> flower instructions on their website I can refer him/her to?
>                 Thank you, Jan
> --
> <http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
> Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder
>

You can find flowers at

on Alex Bateman`s Homepage
"flower form" by Nick Robinson

http://www.sanger.ac.uk/~agb/Origami/origami.html

on Origami Interst group
"Andrea's Rose" by J.C. Nolan
"Dahlia" by Maarten van Gelder
"Rose" by Toshikazu Kawasaki

ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/models/index.htm

on Nick Robinson"s Page

"flower form" by Nick Robinson

http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk/diagrams.html

on OxLip's Oracle of Origami

"rose" by ?? (seems traditional)

http://www.shocking.com/~oxlip/archive.htmlhttp://www.shocking.com/~oxlip/archiv
 e.html

Good luck, if its not enough I try to find more

Julius





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:48:21 -0500
From: Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina <buitrago@EIEE.UNIVALLE.EDU.CO>
Subject: Spanish speakers and origami activities

Hi.
I'm a native spanish speaker in the list.
I'm from Colombia.
It will be interesting to know about the origami activities in Latin
America. I met at the Origami Usa convention'97 with a Mexican, Fernando
Villarruel, two peruvians, Carlos y Alida Valdivia, and an argentinian
woman, Susana Arashiro.
There are many people interesed in origami, but the situation in my
country is to get books and square paper.
We have the Asociacion Vallecaucana de Origamistas. In november we had a
big meeting, similar to a convention. If you're member of BARF (The
Jeremy Shafer's group), you could read about that event. This year the
meeting will be on november 13th, 14th and 15th.

 Jose Tomas Buitrago M.
 buitrago@eiee.univalle.edu.co





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:14:09 -0500 (EST)
From: PErick3491@AOL.COM
Subject: mobiles

Hello everyone,
I have two questions.  I like making mobiles with origami models and got my
class enthusiastic about making a butterfly mobile and sending it to Ronald
McDonald House.  When I did the prototype, however, I couldn't get the
butterflies to stay balanced.  They all looked as if they had been sprayed
with a big dose of insecticide and were hanging there dead.  Any ideas?  Also,
I recently switched from Windows 3.1 to 95 and now can't make any of the links
on Joseph Wu's page.  Just get some message about the browser (explorer) not
being able to find the header.  I know this isn't exactly origami,  but any
suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.  Pat





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:15:54 -0600 (CST)
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Subject: Re: mobiles

>
> Hello everyone,
> I have two questions.  I like making mobiles with origami models and got my
> class enthusiastic about making a butterfly mobile and sending it to Ronald
> McDonald House.  When I did the prototype, however, I couldn't get the
> butterflies to stay balanced.  They all looked as if they had been sprayed
> with a big dose of insecticide and were hanging there dead.  Any ideas?  Also,

  I have made mobiles also, but never one with butterflies.  I believe that
  you may have to tie the butterfly with more than one string.  You may wish
  to tie three strings to the butterfly; one at its tail and one each to
  each wings.  Then tie these short strings together and to a longer string
  that goes up to the support beam.  What I do is pierce the origami with
  a needle and pass the string through and then tie a knot in the string or
  tie a little piece of wadded paper to the end of the string so it wont
  pass back through the hole.  With butterflies you may wish to place a
  small dot of clear glue towards the middle of the wing and gently rest the
  tip of the string in the dot of glue until it dries or hardens a little.
  If I may suggest, use only two pieces of string with no knots at all.
  First, cut a short piece of string that will pass from one wing across to
  the other.  Glue this piece to each wing.  After it dries, pass the one
  string from the support beam under the front of this wing-string and then
  glue the support-string to the tail.  No unsightly knots!  :-)





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:54:05 -0500
From: Chinh Nguyen <chinhsta@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Cerberus Models

There is Nolan's Cerberus, as well, in his book, _Creating Origami_.

--Chinh Nguyen chinhsta@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu

"Life is hard... and life is good."  -- Splinter, _TMNT_
        (Yes, it's a cliche.  Sometimes things are cliches because they're
        *true*!)





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:05:16 -0800
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Subject: Home Page Links (was Re: mobiles)

PErick3491@AOL.COM wrote:
>I recently switched from Windows 3.1 to 95 and now can't make any of the links
>on Joseph Wu's page.  Just get some message about the browser (explorer) not
>being able to find the header.  I know this isn't exactly origami,  but any
>suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.  Pat

Pat, and anyone else, there seem to have been some problems with the DNS in
Western Canada recently, and there have been various complaints about
problems with both web sites and email that I've heard. Maybe this falls
under the same category. Please try again, and if there's still a problem,
please email me with the specific error message and details about your web
browser (which one it is, what version, etc.) and I'll try to get to the
bottom of this problem.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t:604.730.0306 x 105     f: 604.732.7331     e: josephwu@ultranet.ca





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:27:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Origami at the College Level

In a message dated 98-02-20 11:15:07 EST, you write:

> Probably it could be an interesting option the teaching of Origami
>  in an introductory couse of Programming.

Interesting, yes. Maybe not so much for teaching programming,
as for demonstrating ,  on a small scale / with little expenditure
for hardware and software / without requiring much mathematics
or prior programming background,
    the problems of    Documentation,
                              User Manual vs. Tech Manual Writing,
                              User Interface Design,
    the difficulties of   Communicating Clearly with a User,
    and                     User Training.

Origami has the additional advantage of being (relatively)
non-technical, compared to hardcore Computer Science topics,
more specifically, not requiring a Mathematics or Programming
background. So it could be used as a Lo-Tech way to
    teach                  Business and Management Skills
    relevant to the Hi-Tech industries.

E.g., writing instructions for a fold, or diagramming a fold, is a
    good   model for   Program Documentation,
and putting together a program to teach a fold or folds is
    good  practice for  User Training,
                               Programmer Training in a new technology,
                               Project Report Presentation,
                               Seminar Presentation,
                               Seminar Organization,
                               Training Management,
                               Handicapper Accessibility Issues,
                                      Teaching Origami to the Blind,
                                      Blind Origamists as examples of Ability,
                                      Therapeutic uses of Origami,
                               etc.

Origami could be used to help teach
                              Graphics Design
                              Internet Technologies
                              Web Page Building
                              Pros and Cons of Graphic File Formats,
                              Computer Aided Design,
                              Publishing,
                                    How is an Origami book published?
                                    a Magazine?
                                    a Web Page?
                                    a CD-ROM?
                                    What new forms of publishing will we have
                                        in the future?
Also
                              Business Automation,
                              Computerization,
                              Application of Computer Technology,
                              Process Re-engineering,
                              Technological Change and Planning,
                                    (all of these demonstrated by
                                    applying computer technology
                                    to a problem that isn't computerized yet,
                                    publishing and teaching Origami)
                              ...

Diagramming Origami folds would make good
    exercises for CAD classes.

Creating an origami diagram, and putting it on a webpage
would seem to be a good exercise in
     Web Page Design and Implementation
and a good introduction to the various Graphic and other
     Technologies of the Internet.

Misc. other topics that would benefit from the use of Origami,
     Geometry (an awful lot of students don't remember their Geometry),
     Japanese Culture,
     Cross-Cultural Surprises, for example
         the different subjects for Origami folds from country to country
             and their symbolic meanings in each country,
         the different attitude towards "schools" of Origami
              in Japan, and in the West,
         the different diagramming styles and conventions,
         What material and subjects are taboo, where, and why,
             moneyfolding,
                  the different attitudes towards moneyfolding
                  around the world,
                  where is it an offense or a crime?,
                  the etiquette of tipping, and moneyfold tips,
                       where/when is tipping an insult?,
            businesscard folding,customs/etiquette/ prohibitions,
            giftgiving, customs/etiquette/prohibitions,
      Politics and History,
         Hiroshima,
         The Peace Crane,
              evolution of a symbol,
          Sadako and the Thousand Cranes,
          The Peace Movement,
           Origami and the Peace Movement,
           Social Movements (Reform and Peace) and Politics,
                 (see also,
                 Gymnastics and Gymnasia in Eastern Europe,
                 Buddhist Temples and the Boxer Rebellion in China,
                 Organic Farming in Nazi Germany,
                 Ghost Dance (started as a Pacifist movement),
                 Sikh Religion (also originally a Pacifist movement),
                 Mau Mau Rebellion,
                 etc.)
      Small Business Management, and
      Non-Profit Management
          the "Origami movement" is an excellent example of
              a grassroots campaign,
           The B.O.S., OrigamiUSA, etc. are essentially
              small non-profit companies.

Please pardon the odd layout. I'm not specifically trained
in documentation and design, and it shows.

The capitalization points out specific language
(subject headings, keywords, buzzwords, slogans)
that might be useful in putting together course proposals,
and integrating Origami into a curriculum.

Mind you, I'm not sure how current my language is.

Again, this is not my area, so please, do correct me
if I'm wrong, and add suggestions where you can.
These are only comments off the top of my head.

Apologies for being so wordy. I don't yet know how to
create and/or post to a website, or I'd do that instead.

Aloha,

Kenneth M. Kawamura    ( kenny1414@aol.com )





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:32:37 -0500
From: acpquinn@PANTHER.MIDDLEBURY.EDU
Subject: Re: Cerberus Models

At 11:02 AM 2/20/98 -0500, you wrote:
>A few questions/inquiries about that famous three headed guardian of the
>underworld...
>
>I have only been able to find two diagrams for this model.  The first is
>Lang's model in Ansill's Mythical Beings and the second is Montroll's
>model in Montroll's Mythological Beings and the Chinese Zodiac.

speaking of cerberus, has anyone made a model of Cerebus?

for those who don't know, Cerebus is a comic featuring an aardvark by the
name of Cerebus. cute little fellow...strange and a bit violent, but cute.
has anyone folded him?

just wondering...

peace,
alasdair





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:41:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: mobiles

In a message dated 98-02-20 13:26:02 EST, you write:

>  I couldn't get the
>  butterflies to stay balanced.

I've only made a mobile once.

How are you attaching and balancing the butterflies,
and which hanging problem do you have?
   (1) The individual butterflies aren'hanging flat? or
   (2)  The branches of the mobile aren't staying balanced?

For (1),
    (a) see if you can attach a thread in two places on the
         butterfly's back, and then attach the mobile to the thread,
         so you can adjust it back and forth until the butterfly is balanced.
         Then glue the thread or whatever at that point so it doesn't slide.
     (b) Or, Find the center of balance of he butterfly,
          by hanging it loosely from a point, along with a string,
          then doing it again from another point.
          where the two string paths cross should be the center of
          gravity. Attaching atthat one point should balance the butterfly.
          But this is harder to get right, and
          if you wanted to slant the butterfly up or down,
          the first way would give you more control.

For (2), I think you need to assemble the mobile from the bottom up,
balancing as you go, and watching out that it can't run into itself,
no matter how the lower parts turn.

Is that any help?

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura  ( kenny1414@aol.com )





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:53:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: mobiles

In a message dated 98-02-20 13:26:02 EST, you write:

>  Any ideas?

Oops. I forgot to mention, there's a trick,
to keep them facing one direction, if you're making a mobile of
things, like a school of fish, or a flock of birds, where they look better if
they aren't running into each other.

Put a small magnet into each,
like a pin or needle that's been rubbed with one pole of a magnet.
Use the same end, and the same direction  for all the pins, tho.

I'm not sure how they'll behave if you hang a magnet in the mobile.

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura (kenny1414@aol.com )





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:07:46 -0800
From: John Marcolina <jmarcoli@CISCO.COM>
Subject: Help! Flower Tower
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

Hi Everyone,

I am seeking assistance with Chris Palmer's 8-petal flower tower. I love
this thing! I've never been much for tessellations and that sort of thing,
but I think this flower-tower is unbelievable! I folded the 5-petal,
2-level version from his video without much difficulty, then I figured out
how to do the 8-petal version from crease patterns I found on Chris'
website. Then I naturally wanted to try more levels, so I tried an 8-petal,
3-level model, and I'm having a tough time. I can't figure out how to form
the second level after completing the third (top) level.

I tried following the same procedure as in Chris video - forming all the
creases, then collapsing starting in the middle and working my way out.
After forming the inner octal twist, I pop out the remaining parallel
pleats and do the reverse folds on the remaining paper like in the video,
but I can't figure out how to collapse the second level so the model will
lie flat. In the 2-level version, the second level is formed by
reverse-folding the vertical edges (looking from underneath) and pressing
the paper down into the center of the model. The rest of the paper can then
be arranged in a spiral and the whole thing lays flat.

The problem with the 3-level version seems to be that since the inner level
is smaller, after collapsing it, the reverse folds that are fomed run into
each other before they reach the edge of the paper, resulting in a shape
that for the life of me I can't get to lay flat.

I hope that what I just wrote makes sense to SOMEONE out there, and that
someone knows the MAGIC STEP that I'm overlooking. Maybe the 3-level model
has to be 3-D until the end? I'm hoping that this solution can be explained
in email. If not, is there anyone in the San Francisco Bay Area that can
help? You may email me privately if you like.

I looked through the archives, so I know some of you have experience with
this model, though it seems like not many. How about it?

Tom Hull? Eric Anderson?

Anyone?

Meantime, I'll keep tryin', cuz this thing is just too cool...

(Sorry this got so long)

Thanks in advance,

John Marcolina
San Jose, CA.
jmarcoli@cisco.com





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:47:23 -0500
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@TRANSARC.COM>
Subject: Re: Cerberus Models

> There is Nolan's Cerberus, as well, in his book, _Creating Origami_.

Thanks.  Oddly enough, I had looked through that book only a few days
ago and didn't remember seeing it.
                -D'gou

--
end
<a href="http://www.pgh.net/~dwp">Doug's Fun Page</a>





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:48:45 -0800
From: chris <chris@ORI.NET>
Subject: Languages

I speak spanish, french, and english. :)
-chris
-Cris
-Christophe
-chris@ori.net 15 years old.

Garcma Macias Carlos wrote:

> Are there other people that speak in spanish in the list ?
>
> I think would be interesting to know the different languages that
> speak the members of the list (additional to English), but not
> too many ! (hopefully).
>
> BTW, I'm mexican (obviously speaking Spanish).
>
> /8-) Carlos Garcma M
> cgmacias@telmex.net





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:52:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Anne R LaVin <lavin@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: mobiles
Comments: To: Origami Mailing List <Origami@MIT.EDU>

On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:14:09 EST PErick3491@AOL.COM said:

 > ...I like making mobiles with origami models and got my class
 > enthusiastic about making a butterfly mobile and sending it to Ronald
 > McDonald House.  When I did the prototype, however, I couldn't get the
 > butterflies to stay balanced.  They all looked as if they had been
 > sprayed with a big dose of insecticide and were hanging there dead.
 > Any ideas?

Well, apart from de-lurking to ask everyone about the list move a
while ago, I haven't posted anything in a while so I thought I'd

My favorite butterflies are Michael LaFosse's various designs and
variations.  They do balance quite well (tiny ones make great
earrings) and should be good for mobiles.  They're not very difficult,
and look very lively.  Well, that's an odd word to use, but basically
I mean the proportions and relative weights of the body vs. the wings
work very well.  And they hold their wings partially raised, so they
don't look like dead specimens pinned to a board.

He's got them documented in a video and there's a kit of paper (and
one of the diagrams) which makes especially nice butterflies, too.  Both
are available at his Origamido web site (http://www.origamido.com/).

Anne R. LaVin                       "Say, Pooh, why aren't YOU busy?" I said.
lavin@mit.edu                           "Because it's a nice day," said Pooh.
(617) 258-7940                                                  "Yes, but---"
MIT Foreign Langs & Lits                              "Why ruin it?" he said.





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 18:16:55 -0600
From: Jaelle <jaelle1@SWBELL.NET>
Subject: Re: Languages
chris wrote:

> I speak spanish, french, and english. :)
> -chris
> -Cris
> -Christophe
> -chris@ori.net 15 years old.
>
> Garcma Macias Carlos wrote:
>
> > Are there other people that speak in spanish in the list ?
> >
> > I think would be interesting to know the different languages that
> > speak the members of the list (additional to English), but not
> > too many ! (hopefully).
> >
> > BTW, I'm mexican (obviously speaking Spanish).
> >
> > /8-) Carlos Garcma M
> > cgmacias@telmex.net

  I speak Irish Gaelic and American. (smile) To me english is
different. It is what the
British speak. Similar but still different.

Gail





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:13:11 +0900
From: Deborah Foreman-Takano <dforeman@MAIL.DOSHISHA.AC.JP>
Subject: Origami at the College Level
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

I thought I'd take this opportunity to delurk. I have
been a delighted member of this list for quite a while,
and am, I suppose, a Born Again Folder, since I took
up this pastime anew about a year ago after having done
Origami along with educational TV when I was a kid.

This thread about teaching Origami in university is what
made me delurk now. I have been researching Origami
applications to communication theory. I have been using
Origami, and very successfully, in the language classroom,
specifically to orient students (trained in the "examina-
tion/right-answer" approach) to understanding communicative
strategies. I am working on a paper on the subject and am
very excited with my classroom experiments. The students
like them too!

Origami is the perfect thing for me, since I have always
been crazy about paper, and find folding to be one of the
few things one can do productively while still concentrating
reasonably on something else at the same time. I'm learning
a lot from all of you, and I thank you very much!

/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Deborah Foreman-Takano
Associate Professor of English
Institute for Language and Culture
Doshisha University
Kyoto, Japan 610-0321
email: dforeman@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
fax: +81-75-741-1413





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 20:32:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Cerberus Models

In a message dated 98-02-20 17:43:37 EST, you write:

> speaking of cerberus, has anyone made a model of Cerebus?

Don't know.

Maybe adapt Jun Maekawa's "Jedi Master, Yoda"?
Approx. the right proportions, the long ears, modifiable nose,
and enough head surplus for the cowlick?

Aloha,

Kenneth M. Kawamura    ) kenny1414@aol.com )





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 20:54:10 -0600
From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@MTAYR.HEARTLAND.NET>
Subject: Re: Languages

I speak English (duh) and French, my speeling is atrocias how about I just say
     bad in both languages, I have a problem with leaving out letters, words
     sentances, paragraphs.....
Though for the most part I can puzzle some spanish and some italian, but not
     well enough to advertise.
Perry
Paper, scissors, stone.....
Origami, Kirigami, bludgeon....
pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net

>Garcma Macias Carlos wrote:
>> I think would be interesting to know the different languages that
>> speak the members of the list (additional to English), but not
>> too many ! (hopefully).





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:58:21 -0500
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: NOR: Home Page Links

Joseph,

Can you supply the URL's and their IP addresses (nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn)
of some links from your site? I've had a really bizarre email and
web site access problem going on for over a month with a West Coast
internet provider and Compuserve. We've found no work around for
or explanation of the email problems (can't email to certain
addresses, get email fine; can't open certain web pages by the
URL, IP address works fine), so the workaround for accessing the
problem web sites is to give the browser the explicit IP address.

Which has suggested to us that there is a DNS problem somewhere,
and I'm wondering if it might be related. It would be interesting
to give those having trouble with your links the IP addresses and
see if that works for them.

Oddly, AOL is one of the services I've NOT been having this problem
with...

Valerie Vann
valerie_vann@compuserve.com
valerivann@aol.com





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 22:48:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: NOR: Home Page Links

In a message dated 98-02-20 22:02:12 EST, you write:

> Which has suggested to us that there is a DNS problem somewhere,

This might be a coincidence.

I was in Ann Arbor, Michigan, yesterday, for the monthly AASO
(Ann Arbor Society 4 Origami) meeting, and picked up a copy of
a free newspaper, the Metro Times, dated February 18-24, 1998.

The cover story, "Raiders of the Last Ark", was about
Dr. Jon Postel and the "A" root server that is somehow
involved in keeping track of the Internet domains.
Towards the end it says
    [A few days after the Green Paper was released,
    he redirected six of the mirror root servers to receive
    their instructions from a computer other than the "A" box.
    It was an experiment in decentralization, one of hundreds
    of similar tests he has quietly run over the past 29 years.]

You don't suppose that had something to do with
your problems, do you?

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura    ( kenny1414@aol.com )





Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:03:00 -0500
From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@FANTASYFARM.COM>
Subject: Re: NOR: Home Page Links
Priority: normal

On 20 Feb 98 at 22:48, Kenny1414@AOL.COM wrote:

> The cover story, "Raiders of the Last Ark", was about
> Dr. Jon Postel and the "A" root server that is somehow
> involved in keeping track of the Internet domains.
> Towards the end it says
>     [A few days after the Green Paper was released,
>     he redirected six of the mirror root servers to receive
>     their instructions from a computer other than the "A" box.
>     It was an experiment in decentralization, one of hundreds
>     of similar tests he has quietly run over the past 29 years.]
>
> You don't suppose that had something to do with
> your problems, do you?

Not likely.  A problem with any of the root servers would cause -massive-
[and unmistakable] network problems.  There was one about a month or two
back and a good portion of the internet was dead for most of a day...  If
Jon had messed up A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET we would all know...

  /Bernie\
--
Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
mailto:bernie@fantasyfarm.com     Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--





Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 01:27:11 -0500
From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Subject: Re: Help! Flower Tower

Salve!

John Marcolina asked how to fold more than 2 levels in Chris
Palmer's 8-petal (octagonal) flower tower.  Realizing full
well the dangers in trying to explain a complex infinite
progression fold like this in ASCII, I'll give it a try.

The key that you're missing is understanding how the creases
work from one level to the next.  The same process is at
work in the 8-petal version as in the 5-petal one.  (Although
the 5-petal one looks a bit simpler.)  So one thing you
might want to try to do isreally study how the multiple
levels fit together in the 5-petal version, and then try to
do a similar thing for the 8-petal one.  That's not
much help, I know, so ...

>>>
I tried following the same procedure as in Chris video - forming all the
creases, then collapsing starting in the middle and working my way out.
<<<

Well, this is one approach you can take, but it is very
difficult.  It can look like it has to be 3D between levels,
but that's only because you're going from the inside-out.

When I teach the 8-petal version to people, I like to
go from *the outside-in*.  This can be done by "decreeping",
a term that Chris and Jeremy Shafer have popularised.  I'll
try to describe it, but be warned that this won't be easy to
follow:

Start by folding an octagon twist (the standard, closed-back one).
Got that?  Good.  Now, twist the octagon in the *opposite*
direction by 45 degrees.  That is, if the octagon twist
is clockwise, ratate the octagon by 45 degrees in the counter-
clockwise direction.  This will create little zig-zag pleats
under the octagon.

Now, doing one at a time, bring each corner of the octagon to
the center of the octagon.  The pleat under the octagon's corner
should do 1/2 of a petal fold.  Crease firmly and unfold.
Then repeat this with all the other corners of the octagon.
(In fact, you can do them all at once, making a strange
purse variation.

Anyway, that last step will crease a smaller octagon inside
the octagon twist, and this smaller octagon is all valley
folds, right?  You want to *decreep* this inner octagon.
That is, open up the model, turn the inner octagon valley creases
into mountain folds, and recollapse.  This will force the inner
octagon to make a new, smaller octagon twist on top
of the first one, and will result in a level one 8-petal
flower tower.

Of course, it's not as easy as all that.  The decreeping process
involves rearranging a lot of other creases to collapse it.
In particular, remember the 1/2 petal folds we made while
"pursing" the first octagon twist?  The half that's folded
"in" of these petal folds needs to be unsunk - and this actually
creates the 8 petals of the first level.

Once you've mastered all that, the next level is easy.  Purse
the smaller octagon in the same way and decreep it.  Yes,
this means you gotta open up the first level to get your
nimble fingers inside to arrange the second level.  But
once you see how the collapsing process works, it get easier
to recollapse everything.  Then do the 3rd, 4th, 5th, ...
levels in all the same way!

Once you have all that down, try dodecagon flower towers!

--- Tom "that's my leg you're pulling!" Hull
    Somerville, MA
    thull@merrimack.edu
    http://www.math.uri.edu/~hull





Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 01:55:27 -0800
From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Subject: Mailing Origami
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

Hello to all,

Since last September, when I posted my first casting call for my origami
television show, over four hundred models have been folded for "Folding
California".

It's time for folders to send me their models.  Can anyone suggest
specific packing materials and mailing strategies for foil-backed, kami
and wet-folded models?

Many thanks!
Dorothy

FoldingCA@webtv.net
