




Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 20:46:14 -0500 (EST)
From: ROCKYGROD@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Magic Rose Cube

I am definitely a cubehead!  I learned the cube a the PCOC Convention and have
shown it at several parties and classroom and alway get the most terrific
reaction!  It is definitely worth finding someone to teach you!

Patty
Albuquerque





Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:38:25 -0100
From: Karen Reeds <reeds@OPENIX.COM>
Subject: origami sightings

I was tickled this week to find 2 origami mentions in murder mysteries.

Jean Hager, "The Murder Game,"   in Malice Domestic 4: an anthology of
original traditional mystery stories ed Carolyn Hart (pocket books 1995)
A group of colleagues tormented by a tyrant administrator contemplate
revenge--one is always folding napkins and so on. Can't say more.

Joe Gores, Contract Null & Void (Mysterious Books), p. 23:
        Politics held as much interest for Morales as origami.

Karen
reeds@openix.com





Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:46:26 -0100
From: Karen Reeds <reeds@OPENIX.COM>
Subject: Re: origami files and storage

About the only  smart thing I've done about organization is line up all my
OUSA Convention Annuals by date, use Liquid Paper or the equivalent to
write the dates on the plastic spines, and the appropriate initials on any
volume that has a model by someone in the family in it.
Otherwise, there's a lot of higgly-piggly. If I create a model, I do stick
on a label with my initials/date before tossing it into the big basket of
miscellaneous models.
Karen
reeds@openix.com





Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 23:48:31 -0800
From: V'Ann Cornelius <vann@LHT.COM>
Subject: Re: origami files and storage
Doug asked a question about the hiatus of the Model Index.

When the project began, 15 people helped document the model diagrams in
commercial publications listed in the Origami USA catalog.

When the list was only 45 books deep, I created text files of the
information and put them on two disks.  One disk had them in order
alphabetically by model. They were broken in to small sets so that
most text editors could be used to open them.  The second disk was
sorted by classification: animals, toys, geometric...

This was planned to make the electronic information available to
non-computer oriented folders.

These I offered for sale for $5.  Only about 20 people asked for them.
It took a lot of time to reduce the database to these files and there
didn't seem to be enough interest to make it worth the effort.

Now the database is too large to fit without zipping.  Mostly people
who know know to unzip a file can also access the web. The Web is
set up with a search engine on two web sites.  May public libraries
in California have public access to web browsers.  It is no longer
the case that a segment of the folding community will not have access
to the model index.

Having had a few distraction this last year, the database has waited.
I've now documented the 97 annual collection, Origami in Action, Realms
of Paper, and have received several others to enter.

A message to the list explains some of the plans coming up.

V'Ann
vann@lht.com

Daddy-o D'gou wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what's going on with V'Ann's database project?  Last I
> heard was a few conventions ago, that the database would no longer be
> public domain.  No, I correct myself, that new versions would no longer
> be released for free.  I remember some kind of interface being worked on
> or talked about, but haven't heard anything in a long time...
>
> For those you who don't know, V'Ann Cornelius has created a very big
> database of origami models, with creator name, book name, number of
> steps, all kinds of nifty stuff.  There are at least two places on the
> web you can search it from:
>
>    Alex Barber's web site: http://www.the-village.com/origami/
>    Origami USA's web site: http://www.origami-usa.org/
>
> You can FTP an old copy from:
>         ftp.rug.nl
>         (login as anonymous with your email-address for the password)
>         cd origami/oriindex
>         dir
>         ...
>
> -D'gou
>
> --
> end
> <a href="http://www.pgh.net/~dwp">Doug's Fun Page</a>





Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 00:19:41 -0500
From: Rjlang@AOL.COM
Subject: Wuigami Web Sighting

Just thought I'd pass on a Wu-web sighting. In the current issue of
"Computing Life" magazine, Jeff Greenwald writes of his ten-day lockup with
his only connection to the outside world his web browser. At the end of the
article, he lists his twenty favorite web sites: Joseph Wu's Origami Page is
number 6 or 7 on the list.

Robert





Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 10:16:15 -0500
From: "S.Y. Chen" <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Subject: Re: 2 headed crane

Jean Villemaire wrote
>
>I found this diagram also in a chinese ( I think so ) book that also has
>other sembazuru variations.  But careful, I Carlos is right about this
>starting point, I want to point out that each square in this rectangle must
>be folded into a birdbase symetricly.  In that same small book, there is
>another variation that starts with a 1:2 rectangle but with a reagular bird
>base in the first square and a blintzed bird base in the second;  the result
>is a big crane "tailed" by a smaller one.
>

The similar design inspired my Mom Crane and Baby model, which is published
in The Paper issue #59, Summer 1997. Again it is from uncut square. Folder
can do many variation on the same base: Flapping bird, traditional crane,
or many variation from bird base. I know the diagram is poor. I will
improve it in the future.

|------------------------------------------------------\
|  _   Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) <sychen@erols.com>     |\
| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\





Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 12:51:52 -0500
From: "Nancy B. McNitt" <nbm@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject: Re: origami files and storage

When I have a model I wish to keep, I put it into a shoe box. First I modify
the shoe box so that it will be the proper length to fit into a box
(previously) used for printer/copier paper. By measuring the width of the
paper box and cutting shoe boxes down to a length that will fit across the
paper box you can get six or more into a paper box. I then label each shoe
box by content type, ie. valentines, dinosaurs, African animals, bugs, etc.
I can locate the proper box fairly easily when I wish. The models seem to be
generally ok with this method of storage. If a model is particularily easy
to damage, I store it seperately in a smaller box such as ones used to send
bank checks.
Glenn McNitt

>Okay, now that I have totally gotten into origami, I have accumulated boxes of
>models and piles of diagrams. I want to make some kind of order from them so I
>can find a particular diagram when I want it. How do you keep your stuff
>organized? by subject - stars, cubes, etc.? by designer?

>Diane Kleinman





Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:01:51 -0500
From: "MARGARET M. BARBER" <mbarber@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
Subject: Re: origami files and storage

Well, maybe I'm compulsive, but I have computerized my list of origami
books. I try to keep them on the shelves in some form of order by author.

For diagrams that I've accumulated that are loose sheets (web
downloads or things from conventions) I put them into a three-ring
notebook -- now that I know about the document protectors, I'll probably
start using them - but for now, the diagrams are put through a hole punch.
I've gotten some of those sticky tabs (made by the 3-M Post-it Notes guys)
to stick on the first page of each model.  The models are grouped very
generically, according to subject - animals, flowers, modulars, money
folds, etc.

I'm still working on a way to organize my paper in a manner
that not only keeps it from getting messed up, but also makes it fairly
easy to access.

Folded models are either given away or put in my "museum" which consists
of any flat, uncluttered space in our house -- (So far, the family has
been fairly tolerant of this).  Periodically, I replace the older, more
worn models with new creations.  I don't have any permanent storage for
models, though.

Hope this helps,
Peg Barber
mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu





Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 15:23:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Marcia Mau <maumoy@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Origami Sighting
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

Last month in Hawaii a 1987 episode of Reading Rainbows was shown on
public tv @ 6:30AM.  It featured Kyoko Kondo and Andrew Zwick and was
filmed at Gassho Japanese Garden.  Easy Origami (Nakano), Perfect Crane
(Anne Lauren), and The Paper Crane (Molly Bang) were three books which
were mentioned in the program.

I recall that this program was mentioned in the predecessor to OUSA's
The Paper about ten years ago.

Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 16:12:03 -0600 (CST)
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Subject: Re: origami files and storage

This is for Nancy in particular and everyone else also.
You said you keep your models in a shoe box (with 6 shoe boxes per paper
printer box)  I was just wondering what type of climate you live in.
Here in Milwaukee (upper mid-west north of Chicago) we suffer from humidity
changes and many of my models do not last more than a year before the legs
start to separate.   I also store some models in shoe boxes but mostly I
just give them away as soon as I make them.





Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 16:15:58 -0500
From: Cathy <cathypl@GENERATION.NET>
Subject: Re: files and storage

>
>All in all, I find that many plastic containers, storage shelves, and
>binders help to keep my origami organized. Now where did I put that
>wetfolded cocker spaniel....
>
>Regards,
>Tricia Tait
>

Wow!  A wet-folded cocker spaniel!!  I do hope you can find the diagram,
this is one I'd dearly love to make.  (Yes, in case you were wondering,
there is a cocker spaniel here, and it is usually wet...

                                Cathy
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 19:43:25 -0500
Date-warning: Date header was inserted by rfd1.oit.umass.edu
From: Gerry & Robin Lempicki <lempicki@PSYCH.UMASS.EDU>
Subject: Help w/ insects...
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

Ok, time to stop lurking.  I have been doing lots of folding in the last 6
months or so, and have moved along fairly well.  I would say I am well into
a high intermediate level of folding, although I have used only traditional
origami paper, wrapping paper, or vellum.  I have not done any wet folding
yet.  I have accumulated quite a stack of books, and I enjoy folding
anything that starts as a square with no cutting.  I have hundreds of birds,
animals, dinos, boxes, and sealife from the books I am sure you are all
familiar with...then I bought Robert's INSECT book...whoa!  For someone to
be able to design a model at this level just blows my mind...I can't
comprehend how those of you at this level do it.  But, on to my real
question...I started with the Orb Weaver and got it on the 5th or 6th
attempt (I tend to be fussy).  After getting one good one (Robin took it for
her office desk) I decided to move on.  Robin liked the looks of the Praying
Mantis, so I said what the heck?!  Well, I have about 6 attempts under my
belt, and around step 50 or 51 my paper is completely shot!  It tears or
gets a big hole at this point.  I have been using 10" square origami paper.
What can I do to get further here?  Am I just not experienced enough to keep
this paper together for all these folds?  I feel like I am being careful...I
have done well with most of the sealife and dinos.   Any input?  I have
temporarily stopped on the insects...5 or 6 attempts at the mantis can take
up most of my free time for a week.   And while I am writing, is there
anyone in Mass doing the magic rose cube?  Thanks!  (and I enjoy reading
this list!) -Gerry





Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 20:16:15 -0500
From: STEVE179 <STEVE179@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: origami files and storage

> How do you keep your stuff organized?

Well.. I do agree with someone who answered before that as far as models go
I try to give them away ( which is just sidestepping the problem)

Diagrams I keep either on diskette or in a binder ( always the former if
possible).
Small paper  that I might use for say Sonobe modules fit well in an empty
diskette box.

I also make some folders out of thin card ( not following the exact
instructions of, but inspired by, those in the Paul Jackson books)

Another method of storing small models is an empty tissue box. The Kleenex
variety works well. I cut off the outer "lip" of 2 of them and force one to
fit inside the other.
Then I use a permanent marker to label the contents. If you cover at least
one of the boxes with nice looking paper it doesn't lool half bad !





Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 20:56:14 +1100
From: Steven Casey <093535@BUD.CC.SWIN.EDU.AU>

Hello everyone,

I'm back on the list and be contacted at the following e-mail address

0935352@bud.cc.swin.edu.au

All the best,

Steven Casey
Melbourne Australia





Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 09:27:09 +0100
From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject: Re: origami files and storage

On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, STEVE179 wrote:
> Small paper  that I might use for say Sonobe modules fit well in an empty
> diskette box.

20cm paper (which is what I use for "production models") fit very nicely
in an 8" diskette box; but 8" diskettes have been a little difficult to
find lately. ;-) 5.25" diskette boxes are exactly 2mm too small for 15cm
paper. :-(

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 10:46:16 +0800
From: Ian & Karen Mitchell <paris@ACCESSIN.COM.AU>
Subject: An ABACUS?
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

 Hi all, been lurking on the list for a while.. Have a rather unusual request.
Has anyone ever folded something resembling an abacus?. I'm now with a group
called ABACAS (Applied Behavioural Analysis Children and Supporters) which
is a body for children with autism.. and thought it would be great as a
promotional tool.

I know David Brill lurks here :) and know he has folded a matchbox,
cigarette packet, ashtray.. as part of a challenge in BOS and also a Nut and
Bolt (some of us bought your book Mr Brill-- and yes its great.. love the
rowing model).

The beads would not have to move.. just as long as the model was
recognisable.. modular would do too!

If anyone  knows of the existence of such a model please let me know.
Ian
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* The secret of Origami lies not in the folding but in the unfolding *





Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:03:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Barbra0336@AOL.COM
Subject: Origami sighting
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

The graphics caught my eye on an ad for Nationwide building Society on CNN in
Germany last month.  Just at the end of it 3 origami cranes flapped accross
the screen.  They were made of graph paper.  Didn't get the connection to the
ad due to my lack of understanding German.  Barbara





Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 18:34:00 -0500
From: Susan Dugan <florafauna@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject: Re: : Magic Rose Cube Charlotte?

Can and would any one in Charlotte teach INFAMOUS Valerie Vann's
magic rose cube? Hello - Jonathan & Co.
Susan Dugan with out kid in tow.





Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 18:46:16 -0500
From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Subject: Valerie Vann's magic rose cube in Pittsburgh?
Comments: To: origami-l <origami@MIT.EDU>

Anybody in Pittsburgh know Valerie Vann's magic rose cube?

Jeff Kerwood
jkerwood@usaor.net





Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 19:08:22 +0100
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Subject: Re: files and storage

Cathy,
At 16.15 14/2/1998 -0500, you wrote:

>Wow!  A wet-folded cocker spaniel!!  I do hope you can find the diagram,
>this is one I'd dearly love to make.  (Yes, in case you were wondering,
>there is a cocker spaniel here, and it is usually wet...

So, you've just to fold it..... and you're done ! No need for diagrams.

<:-)

Roberto
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 19:24:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: : Magic Rose Cube Charlotte?

In a message dated 98-02-15 18:31:53 EST, you write:

> Can and would any one in Charlotte teach INFAMOUS Valerie Vann's
>  magic rose cube? Hello - Jonathan & Co.
>  Susan Dugan with out kid in tow.

Perhaps the word you want is "NOTORIOUS" rather than "INFAMOUS"?

Kenneth M. Kawamura





Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 20:59:00 -0500
From: Cathy <cathypl@GENERATION.NET>
Subject: Wet folding spaniels

At 07:08 PM 98-02-15 +0100, you wrote:
>Cathy,
>At 16.15 14/2/1998 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>Wow!  A wet-folded cocker spaniel!!  I do hope you can find the diagram,
>>this is one I'd dearly love to make.  (Yes, in case you were wondering,
>>there is a cocker spaniel here, and it is usually wet...
>
>So, you've just to fold it..... and you're done ! No need for diagrams.
>
><:-)
>
>Roberto
>--
>
First, you have to catch it, hopefully before it gets to the couch or the
bed, and before it shakes all over you.  Paper just might be easier in the
long run.....
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:23:53 -0500
From: Susan Dugan <florafauna@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject: Re: OOPS Magic Rose Cube Charlotte?

OOPS!!
Yes, I need to proof before I send. SORRY Valerie Vann did mean you were
INFAMOUS.  Yes, the NOTORIOUS magic rose cube, by Valerie Vann.
Hoppit, the luring disabled Hobbit





Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 23:58:40 -0500
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Re: : Magic Rose Cube Charlotte?

Ok, Susan, are you implying that I'm INFAMOUS
or that my "Magic Rose Cube" is,
or both?

Valerie
...overwhelmed parent of the darn cube, who is
considering getting the thing its own email address
with an autoresponder. It has already got a web site;
next thing you know, it will be demanding its own
domain name...





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 02:00:00 +0100
From: Maarten van Gelder <maarten@rc.service.rug.nl>
Subject: ADMIN: subscription, postpone and archives
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

How to UNSUBSCRIBE from this list ...
   Send a message to:                        listserv@mit.edu
   with in the body a line saying only:      signoff ORIGAMI

You may have PROBLEMS with your (un)subscription:
 - The unsubscribe is not effectuated within a reasonable time (some days).
 - You get all messages twice (via two email addresses).

In both cases, send a mail to the list owners:

  origami-request@mitvma.mit.edu

mentioning which email address to remove from the list.
The list owners are human beings with a limited amount of time, so be patient
while awaiting your deletion from the list.

When you don't get messages from the list (even not your own messages) you
are probably set to NOMAIL. You can do it yourself (when going on holiday),
but in the past months it happend to several members at random.  To set the
For those of you who have forgotten how to ACCESS the ARCHIVES ......
You may get information, programs, diagrams, old messages and other stuff
from the archives via FTP, WWW and Email. The FAQ tells you how to do this.
   Send a message to:                        origami@www.rug.nl
   with in the body a line saying only:      faq

MIND: THE THREE EMAIL ADDRESSES ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:21:18 -0600
From: Carole Young <youngcj@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: origami teaching

I have not taught young children, but my own older children.  One thing
that I have done is to fold large pieces from either old calendars,
brown paper, or wrapping paper.  Reverse folding is a "feeling" that
they get.  It might help to fold a much larger reverse fold with you
then maybe smaller then at the size they are working.  I might also
show them on a large model, (1) a tail before the reverse fold, (2)
then just bend the paper and let the kids tell you what final tail they
likem (3) then bend and crease but don't reverse fold and ask them what
looks funny or odd about just a bend, (4) then tell them that the
reverse fold makes the bend look nicer by hiding the extra inside.
Sometimes the reasons and a story of how the first folder must have
done it helps them to remember.

Maybe helpful,

Carole





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:45:28 -0600
From: Marty Perrigo <mperrigo@MEMH.TI.COM>
Subject: Re: Magic Rose Cube

Anyone in the Houston, TX area know how to make the Magic Rose Cube
that wouldn't mind teaching it?  Ever since I first came across the
picture on the web, I've been fascinated and wish I could make it.
--
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 Marty Perrigo              TI MSG ID: MRTP   email: mperrigo@ti.com
 Memory Design                                Phone: 281-274-3173
 Texas Instruments                            Pager: 713-809-3609
 PO Box 1443, MS 631, Houston, TX 77251       Fax:   281-274-3753





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:45:32 -0800
From: Garrett Alley <garrett@INFOSPACE-INC.COM>
Subject: Joyful (box) Questions
Comments: To: origami-l@nstn.ca

Hello All!

I just purchased 'Joyful Origami Boxes' (Fuse) and I have a simple question that
 I hope someone here could answer. I noticed that the diagrams for the square
 boxes aren't all presented as: body/lid, like the triangle box. Instead, some
 of the diagrams are labled 'Square Box (A)' or 'Body of Square Box 1'. There is
 only one diagram that says it's a lid for a box, 'Lid Square Box (E). So
 (finally) my question is how do I make the body for the square boxes that are
 obviously lids (Square Box (C) and (D), etc...)? Sorry if this question isn't
 clear!

I've been prowling around the bookstores near my home and I haven't found any
 used Origami books (yet). I did, however, find 16 Origami books at Barnes and
 Noble...

Thanks,

-g-





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:52:54 -0200
From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Subject: Re: Help w/ insects...

Hi Gerry,

Don't despair folding Lang's mantis. Long ago Robert himself said he
does not succeed in every attempt to fold his own model... I folded it
four times, with only a 50% success rate (20cm paper thinner than kami).
Just be careful, crease precisely but *not* hard and you'll enjoy the
result; tweezers help a lot in the head section!

        Sincerely,
        Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:56:15 +0100
From: Katharina Grif <Katharina.Grif@UIBK.AC.AT>
Subject: origami teaching
Priority: normal
Comments: To: Origami@MIT.EDU

Hi all! I just like to share with you my nice feeling after having an
origami class. It was my first experience in origami teaching for
kids. I have kids in the age of 8-9 years and 3 h time to fold. After
"experiments" with my own children i chose models without reverse
fold used. We successfully folded a wale (A.Bateman)(there is a
reverse fold to make a tale at the last step-but i helped to fold it)
, butterfly (A.Yoshizawa), simplest heart from Ow, samurai helm and
chinese junk. The last one was pretty difficult for all of them but
we did it together. As modular we tried a Kaleidocyclus(action
model), and all kids folded very quickly 8 units, but the connection
in a right way was a really problem and we needed a hour to fold it
properly. So at the next day when i had a next group, i refused to
fold this modular model and we folded a famouse in Austria model
"Himmel und Holle" that can be than easily changed in a hungry
baby-bird. And it was a really success while all the kids like an
action models very much. Now the question - does anybody of you know
the easy way to teach kids a reverse fold?

with best wishes, Katharina





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:29:21 +0100
From: Julius Kusserow <juku@STUDI.MATHEMATIK.HU-BERLIN.DE>
Subject: Re: origami files and storage

My method of sorting the diagrams an models is a bit unusual and time
expensive.

First of all I have database with all information(modelname, base,
papertyepe, creator, book(s), pages). But  my main modelindex are
cupboards. I fold a "Display Shelf" from Vann Cornelius or  am modular
variant I create on my own per modeltype(the best one). I write on each
display the creator, and the full name of the model, and put an indexcard
(with name, creator, book, ISBN or homepage found, page, and
comments(size, type of paper used for the displayed model)). on the back
of the Display Shelf. All displays arranged alphabetically in the
cupboards.
As I say a time expensive method, but it looks really nice.
The books are sorted by ISBN and the diagrams from internet by source(URL)
alphbetically.
A disadvantage of this method is that you need a large room.

The origamiproduction which I don't give away or use for displaying I
store in A4 drawers which are 10cm heigh or old 2 liter Icecreamboxes
sorted by theme(cranes, flying bird, sitting birds,...).

My paper is not sorted until today, but I have holidays since Friday it is
a good idea to start sorting them now.

Julius





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:36:52 -0500
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Joyful (box) Questions

Usually in Fuse's box diagrams, there are more lid variations
than bottoms. So if there are multiple square lids, and only
one bottom, the bottom should fit any of the lids.

The bottoms are made slightly differently in the initial steps
than the lids, so that the bottoms will be slightly smaller.
Both bottoms (or bases) and lids will use the same size paper.

If you look at the lid diagrams, there will be "families" that
start out in similar steps (or some lids will start with Step nn
of the first lid), and then diverge into different assembly and
finishing steps.

Valerie





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:42:03 +0100
From: Julius Kusserow <juku@STUDI.MATHEMATIK.HU-BERLIN.DE>
Subject: Re: origami files and storage

On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Dahlia Schwartz wrote:
> Anyway, and excuse my unfamiliarity with the many awsome web-pages I've
> only begun to explore, has anyone set up a nice html page where people
> can easily search for models and be directed to their location (in a
> book, at someone's web-site, etc)?
>
> If not, I think it might be a fun project to try in my spare time (don't
> tell anyone I have spare time!).
>
> Peace,  -- dahlia
>
I have a similar project, listing all diagrams found in the web, but my
project is still in its infancy.
Look at http://wwp.mathematik.hu-berlin.de/~juku

If anyone have a more advanced project, I prefer to help her/him rather
than do the work twice. Please e-mail me.

Julius





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:42:35 -0500
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Joyful (box) Questions

Oops, just read your message again. (I have this book, but
its put away somewhere and I don't remember where at the moment.)

The multiple square box designs may all be "bases" (bottoms), or
made progressively smaller to nest inside each other, as a set
of what are essentially not "boxes" but square "dishes". The lid
would probably fix the biggest one, or if they're all the same
size, all of them.

Make one of each using all the same size paper, then see how they
relate sizewise. (Good practice, too :-)

Then you can graduate to Fuse's Japanese box books, which have
dozens of variations in size and shapes...

Valerie





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:48:08 +0000 (GMT)
From: Andrew Daw <andrewd@REDAC.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Help w/ insects...
Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85]

>
<snip>
> Robin liked the looks of the Praying
> Mantis, so I said what the heck?!  Well, I have about 6 attempts under my
> belt, and around step 50 or 51 my paper is completely shot!  It tears or
> gets a big hole at this point.  I have been using 10" square origami paper.
> What can I do to get further here?
>
This model is indeed tough on paper. I originally tried it with 10" origami
paper.  On the first attempt the folds fell apart at about step 48, the
second time at step 51 when I tried to open the model "somewhat".  In the end
I gave up with origami paper and switched to some wrapping paper I had bought
at Christmas.  This was surprisingly tough and takes a lot of "abuse" before
it tears compared with origami paper.  At step 51 I completely opened the
model and after folding the sink re-built it, to save wear and tear on the
paper.  This finally took me through to completion.  The model gets rather
thick in places towards the end and I just had to squash the antenna as they
would no longer take a fold.

Nice book though (I have completed just over nine of the 20 models so far in
the couple of weeks since I bought it).

Andrew Daw





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:53:02 +0100
From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject: Re: origami teaching

On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Katharina Grif wrote:
> action models very much. Now the question - does anybody of you know
> the easy way to teach kids a reverse fold?

Not directly an easy way to teach it, but an easy way to do it: You open
the point you want to reverse-fold completely, fold it up to the top,
close the point again, and pull it out.

Perhaps I can illustrate this with the crane: After you thin the lower
points, you perform a minor miracle, ie. you fold one layer from left to
right in front and one from right to left behind. Then you fold the
thin points up to the top and do a minor miracle again. Now you can pull
out the thin points as much as you want -> reverse-fold.

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:57:06 -0800
From: chris <chris@ORI.NET>
Subject: Re: origami files and storage

I am so badly organized with all of my origami paraphernalia.  I am missing
3-5 origami books, ones that I actually liked, and I have some books from the
library hidden around here somewhere (thank you online book renewal).  I have
about 3 binders of loose paper models + diagrams, also.

Binders work great for storing models, especially ones where you can insert
pieces of paper, which I list all of the models in the book.

-----
Chris Miller ___)> Chris@ori.net
Sophomore - Brebeuf Jesuit Prep school.





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:13:14 +0800
From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Subject: FW: storage & cranes
Comments: To: "origami@mit.edu" <origami@MIT.EDU>

Clare Chamberlain
Planning Officer
Healthcare Investment Unit
Program Purchasing
Health Department of Western Australia
189 Royal Street, EAST PERTH, WA 6004
Clare.Chamberlain@health.wa.gov.au

> ----------
> From:         Chamberlain, Clare
> Sent:         Monday, February 16, 1998 4:12 PM
> To:   'origami'
> Subject:      storage & cranes
>
> I just seem to collect paper and then just look at them as they are too
> beautiful to use!  I guess they just keep my cupboards warm!  Seriously
> though, I have had to change this obsession with 'it's too good to use'
> since my daughter, now 6, started folding - her rationale - it's there so
> I'll use it!
> As for sorting stuff in books, I tend to have favourites which I just
> remember (comfort folds?).  A great book which saves having to sort stuff
> out and is great for public folding demonstrations is Yamaguchi (of
> Origami Gallery)'s Origami Dictionary (japanese), which has simple models
> on almost everything.
> On to double cranes - when I folded all the models in the NOA book
> required for their teaching certificate, there was a note with my
> certificate, which, when translated, said that my only fault was folding
> the colours the 'wrong way' on the double, joined cranes!  One order is
> for weddings, the other for funerals!  BEWARE.  I shall also dig out my
> traditional Japanese tsuru books for posting tomorrow.
> Just for BOS member's information, in the library there is a very old
> origami book with lots of traditional cranes that my father 'liberated'
> just after  WW2 in Japan, which I LENT the library many years ago.  Any
> one care to do some detective work?
> PS welcome back, steven
> Clare Chamberlain
> Planning Officer
> Healthcare Investment Unit
> Program Purchasing
> Health Department of Western Australia
> 189 Royal Street, EAST PERTH, WA 6004
> Clare.Chamberlain@health.wa.gov.au





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:13:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Wayne Fluharty <wflu@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Introduction to the internet...

I am frustrated by my inability to read ____ ?
Does anyone know where I can find a copy of ____ ?
Where can I find ____ ?

The internet is a wonderful thing. Every day we see questions like this
on the mailin' list. And I'm here to tell you that they can all be
answered on the net...

Inability to read _____:
I've just discovered that Alta Vista (www.altavista.com) has a language
translater on their web site. You can give it the name of a web site
that is in another language (or you can search for a web site for a
particular language) and you can tell it to translate resulting web
pages into the language of your choice. Also, they have a spot where you
can key in a word, sentence, paragraph, etc... and it will convert it
for you. Unfortuanately, I don't know how you would key in
Japanese/Chinese/etc... letters

Where can I find a copy of _____:
Go to any search engine and key in "free book search" (or "+free +book
+search" on infoseek or however your engine requires it) and start usin'
their services. They will do a FREE search for the book of your choice.
The more information you can provide, the better. Recently, I asked this
list for information on "Viva! Origami", now you know why (no, I haven't
found it yet). Not too long ago, this is how I found a copy of OFTC. Be
forewarned though, price is at a premium. OFTC cost me $42. You have to
pay the used book store that has it, the middle man who found it for
you, shipping, and whatever time they put into finding it. The one I use
most frequently (who found OFTC for me) is www.a-albionic.com/search.
They also have an on-line out-of print book search feature that has
50-100 origami books in it available immediately.

Where can I find _____:
Once again, use the search engines. I searched for "+origami +used" once
and found a copy of Harbin's "Origami" for $2.00. You can search for
"+dollar +origami" if you are lookin' for diagrammed dollar bill folds,
etc... Searchin' the net can give you thousands of opportunities
(Searchin' for origami alone can bring up 5000 web pages). Yahoo even
has a defined section for Origami information (I don't have the web site
in front of me, but can post it later if someone wants it)

How much does a book cost in MY currency?
I found a Java money converter on the net once (I'm not at home, but I
can send the web site later if needed) so that I could find out how much
2000 yen was in American dollars.

But what about _____?
email me. I'm not a web expert, but I've learned a few things along the
way. And, I've still got a few other web secrets that I'm not quite
ready to pass on yet...

Wayne Fluharty
wflu@hotmail.com

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:03:58 -0800
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Subject: Re: Introduction to the internet...

>Inability to read _____:
>I've just discovered that Alta Vista (www.altavista.com) has a language
>translater on their web site. You can give it the name of a web site
>that is in another language (or you can search for a web site for a
>particular language) and you can tell it to translate resulting web
>pages into the language of your choice. Also, they have a spot where you
>can key in a word, sentence, paragraph, etc... and it will convert it
>for you. Unfortuanately, I don't know how you would key in
>Japanese/Chinese/etc... letters

Be warned. This is outdated technology (circa 1990) that failed miserably
commercially and has been refurbished for the Web. The translations are not
very good because the programs are hopelessly literal. Some larger
translation companies use them for first-pass translation of long
documents, but even then the user's manuals suggest that the original text
be edited to remove confusing colloquialisms. I've tested the Alta Vista
translator and have found that it's the same old algorithms doing the
work, so it's not very reliable. A test translation  from English to French
and then back again gave a result that was not very close in meaning to the
original. As an example of how difficult it is to program a computer to do
translation, a friend of a friend has spent the last 4 years at NTT (Nippon
Telephone & Telegraph) trying to get a computer to figure out when to use
"the". Think about it. It's not as trivial as you might think.

As for entering Japanese, you'd need an operating system that supports it
and knowledge of how to type the characters under those systems. You might
as well learn the language if you're going to bother learning how to type
the characters.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t:604.730.0306 x 105     f: 604.732.7331     e: josephwu@ultranet.ca





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:06:42 -0800
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Subject: Re: What happened to TREE MAKER 4.0 ?

>Dear JJermome.
>I don't know if you remember me but I am Dorothy Kaplan and I think you wrote
>for FOLD for a while but anyway if not I remember reading a lot of your
>letters and I have a couple of little origami books that you wrote.  Do you
>have R. Langs E-mail address so that I may write to him about the treemaker
>program for MacIntosh.  I think that is a program for doing diagrams for
>origami...am I right?  Where are you nowdays and what are you doing.  It must
>be 10 years or so since I knew about you.

Dorothy, it is possible for you to reply to people individually if you want
to address them personally. Otherwise, these messages go to everyone on the
list. Just copy the person's email address into the "To:" heading of your
message. By default, replies to list mail go back to the list.

As for Treemaker, it is not a diagramming program, but a program that is an
aide to designing. You can find out more about it in the archives.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t:604.730.0306 x 105     f: 604.732.7331     e: josephwu@ultranet.ca





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:08:10 -0800
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Subject: Re: Kasahara's Books and Japanese Translation

>Robert, I love Kasaharas books.  His models are so whimsical and that is the
>kind of thing I like.  I have a set of small books by him that I once bought
>in  Hallmarks books store and I never saw them anywhere else.  It has some
>very nice models. Am wondering why you like his work. Does anyone know what's
>become of him. He seems to have disappeared from the Origami scene.  Dorigami

Oh, he's still around and quite active. His latest book is called "Joy of
Origami" (in Japanese). He attends various origami functions, including a
recent convention in Germany.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t:604.730.0306 x 105     f: 604.732.7331     e: josephwu@ultranet.ca





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:19:09 -0500
From: "MARGARET M. BARBER" <mbarber@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
Subject: Fuse Box Questions

I have been having trouble with some of the beautiful boxes contained in
Fuse's book entitled, "Origami Gift Boxes" (or something like that -- it's
in Japanese).  The ISBN is 4-14-031068-5.

Is there a way to determine what size paper she uses?  Some of the models
have numbers separated by "x" which would seem to be paper dimensions --
especially since the english letters "cm" appear afterwards.  The only
problem is that there are three numbers not two as one would expect with
a 2 dimensional sheet of paper... An example is 5.2 x 5.2 x 3.3 cm for
the model appearing on page 44 (lettered D).

If I were to use the first two numbers, that would make the paper square.
From the diagrams, it appears that the paper is NOT square.  For this
particular model, I used a 2 x 1 sized paper and got suitable results, but
the bottom of the box (on page 45, lettered G) doesn't work with a 2 x 1
sized paper. The model on page 72 appears to be a 2 x 1 rectangle -- even
if one uses the first two numbers in the string of numbers (6.1 x 12.4 x
1.6 cm).  When I fold it out of a 2 x 1 rectangle, it is obvious that this
is the wrong size -- from looking at the diagrams.

I am frustrated by my inability to read Japanese here.  Can anyone help?
Is there a way to determine from this book what size paper should be used
for each of the models?

Thanks for your help
Peg Barber
mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:05:55 -0800
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Subject: Re: Fuse Box Questions

On Monday, February 16, 1998 2:19 PM, MARGARET M. BARBER
[SMTP:mbarber@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU] wrote:
> I have been having trouble with some of the beautiful boxes contained in
> Fuse's book entitled, "Origami Gift Boxes" (or something like that -- it's
> in Japanese).  The ISBN is 4-14-031068-5.

The full title would be something like "Gift Boxes made with Origami".

> Is there a way to determine what size paper she uses?  Some of the models
> have numbers separated by "x" which would seem to be paper dimensions --
> especially since the english letters "cm" appear afterwards.  The only
> problem is that there are three numbers not two as one would expect with
> a 2 dimensional sheet of paper... An example is 5.2 x 5.2 x 3.3 cm for
> the model appearing on page 44 (lettered D).

Carole Young guessed correctly. Those dimensions are for the finished object,
 not for the
starting paper.

> If I were to use the first two numbers, that would make the paper square.
> >From the diagrams, it appears that the paper is NOT square.  For this
> particular model, I used a 2 x 1 sized paper and got suitable results, but
> the bottom of the box (on page 45, lettered G) doesn't work with a 2 x 1
> sized paper. The model on page 72 appears to be a 2 x 1 rectangle -- even
> if one uses the first two numbers in the string of numbers (6.1 x 12.4 x
> 1.6 cm).  When I fold it out of a 2 x 1 rectangle, it is obvious that this
> is the wrong size -- from looking at the diagrams.

The paper to use for the box bottom (G) is B4 size. B-sized papers are related
 to A-sized
papers. Page 109 gives the dimensions of B4 paper (25.7 x 36.4 cm). The blurb on
 page 44
(above (E)) tells you that the lids can be made from B4 paper with the bottom
 1/3
removed.

Actually, you can make these boxes with any dimension paper you like, as long as
 you have
enough height in the paper to fold all of the pre-creased structures. The
 remainder of
the paper determines the box's height. I have made taller versions of these
 boxes to use
as pen holders.

> I am frustrated by my inability to read Japanese here.  Can anyone help?
> Is there a way to determine from this book what size paper should be used
> for each of the models?

For future reference, in the instructions for box lid (D), above the line where
 the
dimensions are given for the final box, is a line that tells you where the
 colour
photograph of the box can be found. Literally translated, the line reads:

Colour 25 page (8)

This will help you to recognise the Japanese phonetic symbols (katagana, in this
 case)
for the word "page" which is useful when the instructions refer you to a
 different page.

Joseph Wu, Origami Artist & Multimedia Producer
T: (604)730-0306 x 105    F: (604)732-7331   E: josephwu@ultranet.ca
W: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:09:31 -0800
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Subject: Re: a Tomoko Fuse find!

On Monday, February 16, 1998 4:31 PM, Rob Moes [SMTP:robert.moes@SNET.NET]
 wrote:
> I was wandering through Sasuga bookstore in Cambridge, MA when I stumbled
> upon a single copy of a hardcover Tomoko Fuse book of boxes, in Japanese
> that I have never seen before!  On the cover are beautiful square,
> hexagonal, and octagonal boxes with fan-pleated tops.
>
> I immediately emptied my wallet of about $38 to buy it.  Well worth the price.
>
> I do not know the title--if anyone can help, it would be much appreciated.
> The ISBN is:  4-140-31068-5.  Published by NHK, 1995.  It is not listed in
> the Origami Catalog that Sasuga publishes, although I would imagine they
> could order it. (telephone:  617-497-5460; or web
> http://world.std.com/~sasuga)

This is the "Gift Boxes made with Origami" that Peg Barber is having some
 difficulties
with. If there are any other problems understanding this book, let me know and
 I'll do my
best to figure them out for you. I've made some of the boxes and find them to be
 both
useful and fascinating. US$38, huh? Given the cover price of 2400 yen and an
 exchange
rate of less than 90 yen to the dollar, that's quite some mark-up! Then again,
 shipping
costs from Japan have always been exorbitant...

Joseph Wu, Origami Artist & Multimedia Producer
T: (604)730-0306 x 105    F: (604)732-7331   E: josephwu@ultranet.ca
W: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:19:52 -0600
From: Carole Young <youngcj@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Fuse Box Questions

I'm only guessing, but maybe the three dimensions refer to the final
folded figure.





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:31:19 -0500
From: Rob Moes <robert.moes@SNET.NET>
Subject: a Tomoko Fuse find!

I was wandering through Sasuga bookstore in Cambridge, MA when I stumbled
upon a single copy of a hardcover Tomoko Fuse book of boxes, in Japanese
that I have never seen before!  On the cover are beautiful square,
hexagonal, and octagonal boxes with fan-pleated tops.

I immediately emptied my wallet of about $38 to buy it.  Well worth the price.

I do not know the title--if anyone can help, it would be much appreciated.
The ISBN is:  4-140-31068-5.  Published by NHK, 1995.  It is not listed in
the Origami Catalog that Sasuga publishes, although I would imagine they
could order it. (telephone:  617-497-5460; or web
http://world.std.com/~sasuga)

This is a good-sized book of 112 pages--and the largest variety of boxes I
have seen in one book anywhere.  She also gives suggested paper sizes and
finished box sizes, which is very helpful in planning--these are made
squares and from A4 and B4 rectangles.

The first section features twist origami boxes of dazzling shapes--many
with highly sculptural (concave & convex) three-dimensional caps.  Note
that these are not unit origami--only two or three sheets of paper, with
extensive pre-creasing required.  The locking twists take some practice,
but the results are simply spectacular and the boxes very sturdy.  These
also would work with very textured and thick papers such as elephant hide
or mulberry.

First a triangular pencil box.  Five variations on square boxes--flat,
peaked, and sunken lids, then two pencil boxes.  Ten (!) variations on
hexagonal boxes.  Seven variations on octagonal boxes.

The second section features unit origami boxes in squares, pentagons,
hexagons and octagons.

The squares have eight lids to go with three bottoms:  the usual two-color
pinwheel forms lead to the fan-pleated pinwheel and an absolutely elegant
rose-topped box, which is my favorite in this book.

Pentagon boxes are not easy to find elsewhere:  five lid variations (some
gorgeous two-colors) with three bottoms.  Not as hard as they look.

Hexagon boxes out of A4 paper (very unusual!)  The extra length from the
rectangle makes for some amazingly detailed lids:  several variant
three-dimensional flowers, an interwoven star, all the two-colors you could
ever want out of differently-styled units, knob lid, fan-pleated pinwheel.
Two bottoms.

Octagon boxes also out of A4.  Lids include plain, floral, two-colors,
two-colors twisted, and fan-pleated pinwheel.  At least twenty mind-blowing
variations of lids and bottoms to try.

The third section looks to be inserts:  rectangle, right-angle triangle,
equilateral triangle and diamond.

There's also a photo of a sequel on the back inside cover (same price 2,400
yen), but no ISBN given.  Any info on this book would be appreciated as
well.

A very challenging and fascinating book--takes some careful looking at the
illustrations if you don't read Japanese, but well worth the effort.
Beautiful photographs of some of the showpiece boxes.  This is a must-have
for connoisseurs.

Rob
robert.moes@snet.net





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:31:27 -0500 (EST)
From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: What happened to TREE MAKER 4.0 ?

Dear JJermome.
I don't know if you remember me but I am Dorothy Kaplan and I think you wrote
for FOLD for a while but anyway if not I remember reading a lot of your
letters and I have a couple of little origami books that you wrote.  Do you
have R. Langs E-mail address so that I may write to him about the treemaker
program for MacIntosh.  I think that is a program for doing diagrams for
origami...am I right?  Where are you nowdays and what are you doing.  It must
be 10 years or so since I knew about you.





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:48:34 -0500 (EST)
From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Kasahara's Books and Japanese Translation

Robert, I love Kasaharas books.  His models are so whimsical and that is the
kind of thing I like.  I have a set of small books by him that I once bought
in  Hallmarks books store and I never saw them anywhere else.  It has some
very nice models. Am wondering why you like his work. Does anyone know what's
become of him. He seems to have disappeared from the Origami scene.  Dorigami





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:39:20 -0500
From: Rob Moes <robert.moes@SNET.NET>
Subject: Re: Fuse Box Questions

>I have been having trouble with some of the beautiful boxes contained in
>Fuse's book entitled, "Origami Gift Boxes" (or something like that -- it's
>in Japanese).  The ISBN is 4-14-031068-5.

Hi, Peg.  Obviously this is the book I just found and posted about!  Where
did you find yours?

>Is there a way to determine what size paper she uses?  Some of the models
>have numbers separated by "x" which would seem to be paper dimensions --
>especially since the english letters "cm" appear afterwards.  The only
>problem is that there are three numbers not two as one would expect with
>a 2 dimensional sheet of paper... An example is 5.2 x 5.2 x 3.3 cm for
>the model appearing on page 44 (lettered D).

Of course this is the length, width, and height of the finished box.  The
dimension of the paper is in the upper right corner of the page--it's a B4
rectangle, listed as 25.7 x 36.4 cm, for those of us who have to cut our
own.

>If I were to use the first two numbers, that would make the paper square.
>>From the diagrams, it appears that the paper is NOT square.  For this
>particular model, I used a 2 x 1 sized paper and got suitable results, but
>the bottom of the box (on page 45, lettered G) doesn't work with a 2 x 1
>sized paper.

B4 is a golden rectangle in the ratio of 1 x 1.414 (square root of 2):
look on page 109.  She also shows you how to achieve the ratio from a
square (diagram 3)

These should also work with 2 x 1 paper, but you may find the boxes to be
too short and squat--the octagonal twist boxes of 2 x 1 did work well for
me.  With practice, you should be able to craft a box of whatever
dimensions you like--that's the beauty of these twist boxes.  See the
photos on pages 28 and 29.  You need very sturdy paper for a very tall box
like the fleur-de-lis and lion print box.

I have found that cutting off a bit in the length for the bottom (not for
the lid) helps it to fit better--she does tend to recommend fudge-factors
elsewhere in the book.

>The model on page 72 appears to be a 2 x 1 rectangle -- even
>if one uses the first two numbers in the string of numbers (6.1 x 12.4 x
>1.6 cm).  When I fold it out of a 2 x 1 rectangle, it is obvious that this
>is the wrong size -- from looking at the diagrams.

These are A4, listed as 29.7 x 21.0 cm.  These are also a golden rectangle
ratio.

Good luck--obviously it's best to try out of cheap paper first!

Rob





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:26:20 -0500
From: Susan Dugan <florafauna@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject: Re: : Magic Rose Cube Charlotte?

Ok, Susan, are you implying that I'm INFAMOUS
or that my "Magic Rose Cube" is,
or both?

Valerie,
THE CUBE ! THE CUBE!
(*.*)
hobbit having a better day - I think





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:38:46 -0500
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: a Tomoko Fuse find!

The ISBN is usually given as:
4-14-031068-5

The book is
Origami de Tsukuru Gifuto Bokkusu
Origami Gift Boxes or Make Gift Boxes from Origami

It is indeed a beautiful book, great boxes (what else,
from Fuse?) displayed in artistic photos. If you're
serious about box making, you'd like this book.

OUSA's Source supply center listed this in their
June 1997 price list/catalog, but suggested supplies
were limited.

As usual, the ISBN rather than a title translation is
the best way to identify a Japanese origami book.

Valerie Vann





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:39:05 -0500
From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@FANTASYFARM.COM>
Subject: Re: Introduction to the internet...
Priority: normal

On 16 Feb 98 at 16:13, Wayne Fluharty wrote:

> Where can I find _____:
> Once again, use the search engines. I searched for "+origami +used" once
> and found a copy of Harbin's "Origami" for $2.00. ...

Let me let you folks in on something that completely changed the
complexion of the web for me [and those of you who know some about me
know that I ain't no novice, so that's *really* saying something].  If
you're running Win95, run, don't walk, to http://www.ferretsoft.com and
download "webferret".  It is -free- and it is the single most useful web
utility I've run into before or since.  Trust me: it will change forever
how you find things on the web and how useful the web is as a resource.

  /Bernie\
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Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
mailto:bernie@fantasyfarm.com     Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--





Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:54:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Barbra0336@AOL.COM
Subject: Teaching reverse folding
Comments: To: origami@MIT.EDU

Someone asked about teaching reverse folding to children and I lost the
person's name and address.
Something I do with children is fold the reverse (or any other they have
trouble with), unfold it a couple of times so that it will pop into place
easily.  Then I take it around to each child having difficulty so they can
"pop" it into place and then I show them individually how to do it.  Sometimes
they need to know where a fold is going and what it is going to look like.
Barbara





Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:05:51 +0200
From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
Subject: Re: origami files and storage

Maybe I'm just chaotic person, but I don't sort my origami books
or paper. Admittely I don't have that many books, but I think it
as a bonus when I have to search for a particular model and find
some other models I didn't remember having diagrams for.

Regarding papers, I usually don't have too much fancy stuff around,
so storing it isn't a problem. I think that storing papers of size
50*70cm is better done at local art shops than under my bed which
is already occupied with miscallenous things.

I would love to have one of those paper shelves with twenty or so
slots for 50*70cm paper. And then have it filled with paper. And
then having a vacation long enough to fold until I had to fill it
again. I wish.

Models I give away so there aren't that many around. The ones I
keep aren't usually that good, so when I see my window ledge is
getting full it's easy to get rid of some of them. I *rarely* have
a pyrogami funeral party :)

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Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi
