




Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:25:23 -0400 (AST)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: Re: Exposing Yourself

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, Jorma Oksanen wrote:
> Listening to something is OK unless it breaks your concentration.

I've listened to THHGttG so often that it doesn't break my concentration
anymore -- although it can become rather tiresome when you are in the
midst of a complicated sink fold, and suddenly fall over backwards
laughing because of some scene from the radio. (My favourite scene is the
one in the Restaurant, where Ford says: "No, no, even better still,
imagine this wine glass as the temporal universe, and then you" <crash,
pling> "oh, well, forget that." ROTFL.)

> TV is clearly out of question -- except for folding modulars.

I can't tell, because I haven't got a TV. But reading news is definitely
impossible, even for folding modulars. :-)

> More wet-folding should cure that.

I hope so.

> You have six months old models to give away?

Yes; I give away comparatively few models; but then again, I also fold
relatively few models, so ...

> Not-yet-creators!

Hm, I'm not sure about that. But I do hope you're right.

> Jorma, wishing you all
> Rauhallista Joulua ja Onnellista Uutta Vuotta!

Oh yes, and fr\"ohliche Weihnachten und ein gutes neues Jahr from me too.
:-)

Yours, Sebastian                                        skirsch@t-online.de
                         /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:25:50 -0400 (AST)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: RE: Exposing Yourself

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, Dennis Brannon wrote:
> I prefer having something to listen too as well.  I tried cassette tapes
> but they don't play long enough.

Perhaps you should try a CD changer: 5 CD's \`a 72 minutes = 6 hours of
music. That should even suffice for Kawahata's Ankylosaurus. ;-)

Yours, Sebastian                                        skirsch@t-online.de
                         /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:26:09 -0400 (AST)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re: One less female folder

Nick,
At 07.07 20/12/1997 -0400, you wrote:

>> Kunihiko Kasahara, who is often believed to be
>>a female because of his name ending in "ko".....
>
>I met her & she is a woman! Honest!

Well, he vaguely looks like a woman but I believe he is not. Unless you have
more intimate proofs...... ;-)

Roberto
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51100 PISTOIA             |  message in reply... I KNOW
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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:59:54 -0400 (AST)
From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@spacestar.net>
Subject: Re: Addressing e-mails

I just returned to Minnesota, and I am blushing that so many subscribers
took notice of my bad typing. The problem was that I was using a new
laptop, and I typed that extra period when configuring my mail software.

Computers are not as forgiving as paper.

Thanks to everyone who tried to help.

.Jane





Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 14:29:02 -0400 (AST)
From: "MARGARET M. BARBER" <mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
Subject: Origami sighting

I don't know if this one was posted or not, but Arthur Anderson (the
consulting arm of the big accounting firm) has an ad in the November issue
of National Geographic magazine which includes some Origami stars made
from what looks to be paper money from various countries.
Peg Barber
mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu





Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 14:32:33 -0400 (AST)
From: Paul Vandine <pvandine@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Please help with Robert Lang's Piano Player

Why not go to the source??  Robert Lang does frequent the list <G>!
Robert, can you help with the interpetation of instructs of step 40 of
your piano player origami??

Laterz

Paul

===
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---michael gebis <gebism@std.teradyne.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Dennis" == Dennis Walker <d_and_m_walker@compuserve.com>
> >>>>> wrote the following on Fri, 19 Dec 1997 11:13:40 -0400 (AST)
>
>   Dennis> Hello, I'm still stuck at diagram 40 of Robert Lang's 'Piano
>   Dennis> Player' from 'Complete Origami'.

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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:56:09 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: paper quilts by Fuse

The full title etc of the Fuse quilt book is on
the web page with Jeff's photos of his quilts.

http://people.delphi.com/vvann/jkerwood.html

The major online (Web site) origami supply and book
stores, including OUSA, Fascinating Folds, and Sasuga
Japanese Bookstore, can supply "Origami Quilts" given
the ISBN. An English edition was announced/proposed
months ago, but either was abandoned or delayed for
some reason.

While this is the only book (so far) entirely devoted
to origami quilts, many of Fuse's earlier books have
similar things showing the development of the idea.

Also, many of the traditional Japanese hanging ornaments
(kusudama) and more recent designs by Fuse and others
are based on fancy squares that are joined by tabs and
pockets, so the transition to linking them in sheets
(quilts) instead of 3D objects isn't much of a stretch;
probably every modular origami fan has done that at one
time or another. Similar "quilt" constructions include
patchwork vests and chessboards, some example of which
are in the diagrams in the origami-L archive.

None of which should deter someone from writing another
book, all the more so if the ideas were developed independently.
No one has a patent or copyright on the idea after all; the
only thing copyrightable is the book itself and its specific
graphic contents.

Valerie Vann





Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:14:54 -0400 (AST)
From: GURKEWITZ@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject: RE: Entertaining/Teaching children

The secret notes book is carried by OUSA and at the hard to believe
price of $2.50





Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:03:41 -0400 (AST)
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Re: Please help with Robert Lang's Piano Player

Dennis> Hello, I'm still stuck at diagram 40 of Robert Lang's 'Piano
Dennis> Player' from 'Complete Origami'...

Okay. Step 40 is a crimp; you push in where the little black arrow is
pointing. Conceptually, it's a simple crimp, rather than a multiple crimp.
Treat the near half of the layers as a single layer; treat the far layers as
another layer.

Good luck,

Robert





Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:28:44 -0400 (AST)
From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@usaor.net>
Subject: (thanks) Re: Help me save Christmas.

> From: Jean Villemaire <villemaire@videotron.ca>
> To: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@usaor.net>
> Subject: Re: Help me save Christmas.
> Date: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 11:09 AM
>
> I'd like to see a picture of the finished work.  Or at least hear about
> the fun you all had with putting this kind of tree up for X-mas.

I want to thank Jean and others who helped me through my Christmas crisis
(finding an origami Christmas tree and paper).

I decided on the tree from The Magic of Origami (Gray and Kunihiko) page
112. I got 24" x 12' Fadeless (dark green one side and light green on the
other side). Thanks to Bren for getting it out the same day I called her.
The end result was a 26" tree (dark green) with 8 "shelves". My making the
origami tree at the same time my wife and son took down the real tree sort
of
eased the pain a bit. The best thing about the origami tree is that my 4
year old loves it and even enthusiastically helped mom take down the real
one. We have the tree on a small table with my two smaller practice models,
looks nice. It is sad to lose "the real Christmas tree" tradition but I
really do like the idea of starting an "origami Christmas tree" tradition.
Next year the "family-making-the-origami-Christmas-tree-together" will be a
real joy. Thank you all for your help.

Merry Christmas,
Jeff Kerwood
jkerwood@usaor.net





Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 23:54:31 -0400 (AST)
From: ROCKYGROD <ROCKYGROD@aol.com>
Subject: Re:  Disney origami paper

I saw some Disney origami paper in a small shop in Japantown in San Francisco.
If you have any connections there you may be able to get some.

Patty





Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 12:16:32 -0400 (AST)
From: mSaliers <saliers@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Origami sighting

Any speculation as to whether actual money is used, or if its money wrapping
     paper?
The non-American paper is very attractive.

My informed source (hi!) thinks this is the star simultaneously published
by Nick Robinson, Paul Jackson, and Fuse. Any other speculations?

The advertisement is on the fifth page from the end of the American
version of NG.

> I don't know if this one was posted or not, but Arthur Anderson (the
> consulting arm of the big accounting firm) has an ad in the November issue
> of National Geographic magazine which includes some Origami stars made
> from what looks to be paper money from various countries.
> Peg Barber
> mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu





Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 21:54:48 -0400 (AST)
From: schary@VNET.IBM.COM
Subject: ORIGAMI-L digest 940

*** Reply to note of 12/21/97 16:53
From: Sreenath Chary
    IBM Australia,FF11,
    55 Coonara Avenue,West Pennant Hills,NSW 2125
Subject: Help with the new Kawasaki rose......
Hi,
  I am normally a lurker on this list....I need some help with the new
Kawasaki rose from Valeries page. The locking at the end is not clean
at all like in the picture....when I do the last reverse fold, because
it does not 'go to a corner' it comes out quite untidy...am I doing
something wrong? The final result is not a clean square like in the
picture.

  Also, is there a simpler way to do the crimp...I had to use a ruler
and an empty ballpoint pen to score. I tried a rose by not doing
the crimp, and actually it looks slightly better (may be my bad folding?)
Looks like this crimp is only optional.

  One last observation...if I use standard origami paper, the final
result has portions of white show up (due to the reverse folds) is this
right?

Thanks,

Regards,
Sreenath
VNET ID: SYDVM1(SREENATH) (Ph : 66-2-502-1118/1399)
Internet:SChary@vnet.ibm.com





Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:07:21 -0400 (AST)
From: "Green, Robert R" <GreenR@scmb.co.za>
Subject: Origami in South Africa

Is there anybody on this mailing list who is resident in South Africa
and interested in forming a local organization/club?





Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:12:11 -0400 (AST)
From: Grace Chiu <chiug@fox.nstn.ca>
Subject: Hi, I'm Back...

Hi, Folders,

I'm back from my way-too-long origami-l hiatus and working at iSTAR.
The server that this list is on is actually on a server that my group is
now managing, and we are in the process of upgrading & standardizing it.

Is there a list owner on here?  Or at least someone who can tell me what
should be done with all the archives here?  There seems to be 2 copies
of everything, and apparently origami-l takes up the most space of all
the lists served here.

Now, of course I must talk about origami, here:  just saw Steve Matheson
at the Ottawa Christmas Craft sale yesterday and his Origami CD-ROM --
looking prosperus!  We talked about how whenever someone tells me
they're going to Japan, I can never clearly tell them what origami stuff
to bring back.  Especially now that the Japanese yen is so low, how
about a Top Ten list of Origami Stuff to Get in Japan (& where it get
it)?

Regards,

Grace Chiu,
Still Folding...
iSTAR Internet Inc.
Ottawa, ON, Canada





Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:13:32 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: lighthouse wanted

Hi - can anyone help this guy (reply in private)

  ------- Forwarded message follows -------

Hi, my name is Fabio. I'm a college student here in the United States
but I'm actually from Brazil. I was looking for some internet sites
about origami but my computer is kind of old and I can't download any
diagrams. I'm looking all over for a lighthouse; do you have how to
e-mail me that? It doesn't matter if it is complex; I'm usually able to
fold them too. I hope you're able to help me. I have a friend who
collects lighthouses and this would be his Xtmas present.
        My e-mail is fabio_pires@hotmail.com.
                                Thank you!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:23:41 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Origami sighting

mSaliers <saliers@concentric.net> sez

>My informed source (hi!) thinks this is the star simultaneously published
>by Nick Robinson, Paul Jackson, and Fuse. Any other speculations?

Florence Temko sent me a copy of this & I chased up their web-site. They
assure me that origami was not used in the construction, so there are no
folds involved! Unless someone knows better, I've left it at that.

Happy Christmas, by the way!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 16:27:34 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: LISTSERVER new management (Was: Hi, I'm Back...)

Grace,

Welcome back!

I believe that the owner of the origami-L list is still

Anne R. LaVin
lavin@mit.edu

(she's on the list, but only posts occasionally, so may miss
your query)

The quickest way to her web pages is through Joseph Wu's page of links.

Many of us have been very concerned this past year about the erratic
behavior of the listserver. We've also had to resort to the archive at
the listserver periodically to pick up mail to the list that we miss due
to being unsubscribed. It is very handy to be able to access the
current messages almost immediately.

I'm puzzled though by your reference to "2 copies". I'd not noticed that.
Is the volume of the origami-L a problem to the listserver site? There
is the privately maintained mirror and file archive site at rug.nl, so
perhaps the earlier message archives from the listserver could be
dumped if space is a problem. But before that is done, could we have
some notice, in case someone wants to provide an additional mirror
site for the older messages? Perhaps Anne can find space somewhere at
MIT, or someone else can volunteer.

Valerie Vann
valerie_vann@compuserve.com





Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 18:05:20 -0400 (AST)
From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@brown.edu>
Subject: How to create in Modern Origami Preface

There are many excellent folders who have never created a folding of
his own and wondered how it is actually done.  My experience with the
eight point star may offer a clue as to how one might begin to make
some discovery of one's own:

Installment 3 .   <fontfamily><param>Times</param><bigger><bigger>The
Eight Point Star

        The discovery of the eight point star was accidental.  Today the eight
point star would generally be formed by blintzing the square
paper--folding four corners to the center-- providing eight points of
equal length.  At that time I was not familiar with the use of the
blintz bird base, although I knew  the traditional double  or triple
blintz folds, leading to such figures as the yakkosan  or the komuso
found in traditional Japanese origami.  Instead, I used the corners of
the inner square, after sinking the center point of the bird base to
get the additional four points.  The four longer points of the bird
base were shortened, requiring folds cutting across the main diagonal
lines, as one can see from the creases resulting from the eight point
star.  The  diamond shapes  providing additional attractive shapes
cutting across the diagonal lines and the flaps of the original bird
base.  These lines provided attractive shapes that fit together well.

A Method of Discovering New Creations

        It is the presence of complex network of creases  which allowed me to
fold  some of the  eight point star figures easily, and it stands as an
example of a method of discovering new forms.   There are  two
basically different approaches used to  create new figures.   One is to
set a goal and try to reach it.  This requires selecting a starting
point  which is suitable in terms of  number of points needed or the
shape of the figure.  This can be a difficult approach if a suitable
base cannot  be easily found.  Still another has been  described as
trial and error-- simply playing with the paper until something
appears.  This approach has the advantage that the end goal could  be
anything that one comes  across but has the difficulty of not having a
definite direction to follow.

        The eight point star provided me with a starting position, from
which I could proceed.   I began by unfolding the eight point star one
step at a time and found that at almost every step a new figure would
suggest itself.    Even when the star was pulled apart fully the
creases represented points where refolding could be made.
Furthermore,  by sticking to these lines, it was possible to achieve
combination of lines which were generally attractive and provided
geometric stylized products.   For Pegasus I only had to raise and bend
one of points of the eight point star to fold the head, and two others
folded back to form the wings.  The four points of the inner square
neatly provided the four sturdy legs .  The center square with sides
folded in provided a definite three dimensional quality, which was an
advance over much of early origami which tended to be flat.

Cross Pleating

        The significance of  using the eight point star to pre-crease the
paper in order to discover new folds, lies in  the presence of lines
cutting across the basic bird base pattern, which to many has been the
starting point of folding a new figure.  The additional creases after
folding the eight point star suggested  new moves that could be tried
out.    The extensive use of pre-creasing occurs with the box pleating
approach of Neal Elias (Neal Elias Selected Works, 1964-1973, by Dave
Venables, British Origami Society, 1978).  Generally a grid of equally
spaced horizontal and vertical lines were pre-creased prior to the
beginning of the folding session.  The paper was not limited to the
square, but made as long as necessary for the particular object in
mind.    The initial grid provided locations for lines cutting
diagonally across the sheet--i.e. for cross pleating.   Neal Elias was
successful in folding many complex figures, such as the matador and the
bull, folded from a single 3 x 1 paper.  Recently Thoki Yenn has
suggested adding diagonal cross pleats to the box pleat creases.  This
adds 45 degree angles to the 90 degrees which already exit and can be
expected to create greater variety of folds.

     Some people object to the excessive use of pre-creases, but for
those desirous of discovering new folds, the lesson from the eight
point star is that extensive pre-creasing can be used as a basis for
exploration of new forms.  James M. Sakoda

</bigger></bigger></fontfamily>





Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 02:13:06 -0400 (AST)
From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@health.wa.gov.au>
Subject: thoughts

just a few Christmas ponders from sunny Perth (where it's 41 Celsius and
the origami paper runs when you touch it - wet folding?)

First to children folding - I've given up demonstrating to my daughter -
she's now 6 and just makes up a model when she wants to make
something.....
And so on to creators and artisans - many of those who create ain't so
good at folding (heresy) and/or teaching!  For those who feel their work
isn't up to scratch, often the presentation can cover mess - I have
folded a cat and mice from one of Paul Jackson's books - not so complex,
but in lovely wood grain patterned paper, and then mounted them on a
black base.  For relatively little work, it was a stunning effect.
Similarly, mounting flat folds on interesting cards, possibly adding a
little detail (such as a stenciled sun, reeds or clouds) can make
something simple quite stunning (and sellable)
Now onto noise and folding - I once folded live on TV in Japan and had
to make a model during the commercials - but had to fold right out in
the air as my mike was picking up too much rustling!
Finally to maths (and back to kids) - if you teach little ones, they
invariably put paper coloured side up - and then look stunned when they
fold the paper and the colour disappears!
I really do hope you all have a great Christmas or other politically
correct holiday.  I sympathise with those who are in bitter cold, but it
ain't all wonderful so hot with bush fires etc.!
Maybe we should move Christmas to an equinox!
Bye........
Clare Chamberlain
Planning Officer
Healthcare Investment Unit
Program Purchasing
Health Department of Western Australia
189 Royal Street, EAST PERTH, WA 6004
Clare.Chamberlain@health.wa.gov.au





Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 02:32:36 -0400 (AST)
From: Amy <ahuang@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Subject: Origami Dollhouses

Hi there,

        Thanks to all who contributed ideas for origami christmas gifts. It
really helped me for this season:)

        Now..I want to do another project (it just never stops:)). I'm
thinking of folding an origami doll house but don't know where I can find a
good fold for a house. If there is such a model out there, please let me
know! Or, if anyone has any creative ideas (like stringing modulars
together?) I'm welcome to them.

        Thanks,
        Amy
        Ring of Origami Art
        http://www.angelfire.com/la/Lal





Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:20:02 -0400 (AST)
From: Ariel <syn08@dataphone.se>
Subject: 3-d soft & origami

I wonder if anyone ever tried doing an animation with the explanations for
a folding using some 3-d program, for educational purposes.

Being a folding a quite simple 3-dimensional geometrical figure, it should
be fairly easy to draw all intermediate steps in a 3d-cad program, and even
more, ** animate ** those steps, so that you see as in a film-like " as
done by an invisible hand" how the folding is done, being even able to
change/rotate the folding and see it from different views.

I know it sounds a bit too science fiction, but it could be fun to see
what would happen.

Does anyone know of anyone doing so ? any sofware for doing so ?





Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 11:29:50 -0400 (AST)
From: reeds@openix.com (Reeds Family)
Subject: Re: Origami Dollhouses

>Hi there,
>
>        Thanks to all who contributed ideas for origami christmas gifts. It
>really helped me for this season:)
>
>        Now..I want to do another project (it just never stops:)). I'm
>thinking of folding an origami doll house but don't know where I can find a
>good fold for a house. If there is such a model out there, please let me
>know! Or, if anyone has any creative ideas (like stringing modulars
>together?) I'm welcome to them.
>
>        Thanks,
>        Amy
>        Ring of Origami Art
>        http://www.angelfire.com/la/Lal

The XYZ base for the Omega Star will give  you a convenient inside
structure for  4 rooms downstairs, 4 upstairs.

The book Origami Poppenhaus, Laurent D'Haeleseleer (La Riviere & Voorhoeve,
Kampen, 1991, ISBN # 90 384 0086 1.  NUGI 440) doesn't have models for a
dollhouse itself, but it does have pretty good diagrams for stuff to
furnish the house with and nice color photos of sample rooms. You could
improvise the house's shell/roof from various box and shelf models in it.
Even if you can't read the Flemish (I think it is), it's easy to follow. I
got it from the Origami USA Source some time back.

Karen
reeds@openix.com





Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 11:46:14 -0400 (AST)
From: A.Welles@student.kun.nl
Subject: Merry Christmas, Happy 1998!

Hi All,

I don't know whether this is a normal thing to do or something on an
Origami mailing-list, but since it won't hurt anybody I am gonna do it
anyway:

Here goes....

I'd like to wish all members of Oriagmi-l the merriest Christmas and the
best New Year you could possibly imagine!

Arjan Welles
A.Welles@Student.kun.nl
The Netherlands





Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 12:21:12 -0400 (AST)
From: jpl@www.barclab.com
Subject: Re: Origami Dollhouses

| ...
| The book Origami Poppenhaus, Laurent D'Haeleseleer (La Riviere & Voorhoeve,
| Kampen, 1991, ISBN # 90 384 0086 1.  NUGI 440) doesn't have models for a
| dollhouse itself, but it does have pretty good diagrams for stuff to
| furnish the house with and nice color photos of sample rooms. You could
| improvise the house's shell/roof from various box and shelf models in it.
| Even if you can't read the Flemish (I think it is), it's easy to follow. I
| got it from the Origami USA Source some time back.

Oh yes, those names are about as Flemish as it gets.

There's some neat stuff in Kasahara's Origami Omnibus: houses, roofs,
a chapel, as well as some furniture: book case (as well as books), chair
and reading person, table, ...

The book case might be of interest, since the shelves might be turned
into different floors of a dollhouse.
--
 Jurgen Pletinckx                           BARC         Etre une heure, rien
 Tel +32 9 220 49 81         Fax +32 9 221 85 17         qu'une heure durant
 jpl@barclab.be                                          Beau, beau, beau
 Industriepark Zwijnaarde 7, B9052 Gent, Belgium         et con a la fois





Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 15:44:40 -0400 (AST)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: Re: Exposing Yourself

On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, it was written:
> I am travelling, so I can't find the quotation, but a few years ago, when
> John Montroll was featured in the OUSA newsletter, he said something to
> the effect that not everyone had to be a creator, that there are
> composers and performers and that a person did not need to be both.

That's what I tell myself as well, but somehow I can't believe it. I'm
probably not modest enough; is this a fault or a virtue? Anyway, I'm
already better than I deserve to be, after two years of "serious"
paperfolding, so I shouldn't complain.

> But as for myself, I've been folding for 40 years, and I don't think I will
> ever do more that come up with variations on other people's work, fold well
> and choose papers effectively (oh, and teach kids).

"'You are old, father William,' the young man said" ...

Yours, Sebastian                                        skirsch@t-online.de
                         /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 19:37:42 -0400 (AST)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: Origami Deutschland Web Pages

Hi,

just wanted to inform you that the Origami Deutschland web pages are now
inofficially out(TM) (or something like that ...)

They are available via

        http://www.origami.net/homes/od/

(Many thanks to rsp for providing the web space!)

I'd appreciate it if you could manage to drop by. It is not really what I
consider "complete", but I wanted to get the damn thing out of the way,
and if I don't do it now, I won't do it before next X-mas ;). There are
still a few bits missing (but I won't tell which ones :-)), due to one
thing and another, and some people not sending me the articles they
promised to write months ago, but on the whole, it should be quite useful.

Regard this as my little christmas gift to you -- and you know that one
shouldn't look to closely at gifts. ;-)

(We even a proverb here in Germany about that, but I don't know how to
translate it into English. Something about that you shouldn't look into
the mouth of a horse that you have received as a gift etc. :> Oh heck,
"Einem geschenkten Gaul schaut man nicht ins Maul", it's as simple as
that. :-} )

Merry X-mas, Sebastian                                 skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)
                                                   /or/ od@origami.net :-)





Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 21:33:37 -0400 (AST)
From: youngcj@ix.netcom.com (Carole Young)
Subject: Re: Origami Deutschland Web Pages

That is "You should not look a gift horse in the mouth".  If looking in
the mouth means checking the teeth, then that is evaluating the worth
via age of the animal.  If something comes as a gift you should check
its value too closely.

Eigensame auf Deutch oder Englisch.

Carole





Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:23:37 -0400 (AST)
From: youngcj@ix.netcom.com (Carole Young)
Subject: Re: Origami Deutschland Web Pages GREAT!

I checked out the page and looked at the previous newsletters.  I looks
interesting.  I applied to get info to join.  Thanks for the notice.

Carole

You wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>just wanted to inform you that the Origami Deutschland web pages are
now
>inofficially out(TM) (or something like that ...)
>
>They are available via
>
>       http://www.origami.net/homes/od/
>
>(Many thanks to rsp for providing the web space!)
>
>I'd appreciate it if you could manage to drop by. It is not really
what I
>consider "complete", but I wanted to get the damn thing out of the
way,
>and if I don't do it now, I won't do it before next X-mas ;). There
are
>still a few bits missing (but I won't tell which ones :-)), due to one
>thing and another, and some people not sending me the articles they
>promised to write months ago, but on the whole, it should be quite
useful.
>
>Regard this as my little christmas gift to you -- and you know that
one
>shouldn't look to closely at gifts. ;-)
>
>(We even a proverb here in Germany about that, but I don't know how to
>translate it into English. Something about that you shouldn't look
into
>the mouth of a horse that you have received as a gift etc. :> Oh heck,
>"Einem geschenkten Gaul schaut man nicht ins Maul", it's as simple as
>that. :-} )
>
>Merry X-mas, Sebastian
skirsch@t-online.de
>                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail >
16KB!)
>                                                   /or/ od@origami.net





Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:54:21 -0400 (AST)
From: youngcj@ix.netcom.com (Carole Young)
Subject: origami sighting

We just returned from a cruise (Miami-Nassau) on the Norwegian Majesty.
The wine steward (lady) returned the completed bills as origami models.
It was quite a hit.  I made sure to mention that on the evaluation
forms.





Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 02:00:30 -0400 (AST)
From: MrsCalbash <MrsCalbash@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Origami Deutschland Web Pages

Hallo Sebastian!
Auf Englisch sagen wir 'Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.'
Ich bin Deutschlehrerin sowie Origamilehrerin, und jede Stunde in der
Mittelstufe faengt mit einem Sprichwort an.
Vielen Dank fuer die neuen OD Seiten--sie sehen klasse aus!
Leslie Blanding
New Hampshire,
USA





Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 11:23:08 -0400 (AST)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: Re: Origami Deutschland Web Pages

On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, Carole Young wrote:
> That is "You should not look a gift horse in the mouth".

It seems that proverbs are much more language-independent than I always
thought. Weird ... ;-)

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 14:00:59 -0400 (AST)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re: Origami Deutschland Web Pages

Sebastian,
At 19.38 23/12/1997 -0400, you wrote:

>just wanted to inform you that the Origami Deutschland web pages are now
>inofficially out(TM) (or something like that ...)

Well done, Seb ! I met Paulo & Silke at the CDO Convention, but they didn't
tell me that a webpage was planned.....
There's still a lot of work awaiting. Keep it up, and merry Xmas.

Roberto
         _\|/_
        ( o o )
=====-oOO-(_)-OOo-========+
Roberto Morassi           |
Via Palestro 11           |  Please DON'T quote my full
51100 PISTOIA             |  message in reply... I KNOW
ITALY                     |  what I have written ! :-)
tel & fax (+)39-573-20436 |
E-mail <morassi@zen.it>   |





Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 14:26:05 -0400 (AST)
From: JacAlArt <JacAlArt@aol.com>
Subject: New Engle book?

Anyone know if Peter Engle has plans for a new book? Or does anyone know him
well enough to ask him?

~Alec





Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 20:17:50 -0400 (AST)
From: Paul Vandine <pvandine@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Merry Christmas ALL!

To all on the Origami List I say:

Merry Christmas

Feliz Navidad,

Freuliche Weihnachten!

and all the hundred others in Languages I don't know!

"May your folds be ever crisp, and you fingers cramp-free!"

Have a good season all!

Paul

===
World Peace Through Origami

_________________________________________________________
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com





Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 05:43:25 -0400 (AST)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: Re: Origami Deutschland Web Pages

On Wed, 24 Dec 1997, Robby/Laura/Lisa wrote:
> Well done, Seb ! I met Paulo & Silke at the CDO Convention, but they didn't
> tell me that a webpage was planned.....

I don't think they were fully aware of it themselves. ;-) They got their
own internet account a few months ago, and I guess that they still have to
get used to that thing. But Paulo told me that he is very interested in
it, and that he wants to learn about web publishing himself if he can
afford the time. (Well, actually, he asked me how I did those pages, and
when I told him that I had written them with a plain text editor, he asked
whether there were also some programs that allowed stupid people like
himself to write web pages. :-) ) And now that he is not editor of der
falter anymore, he told me that he might just as well center his efforts
around the web pages.

Anyway, the web pages were not "planned"; Mathias Maul started the project
about 1.5 years ago, but then he somehow lost his momentum. He asked me to
take over the pages, and I've been at work since September. There was
never any official schedule for this project.

Eventually, I'd also like to have the Viereck Verlag on the 'net, but this
is a long-term project, and it'd require much more support from Silke than
I have now. I plan to perhaps do a sample of how a site for the Viereck
Verlag could look like till June, and then talk with Silke about it during
the OD convention at Wuerzburg. But that's still Zukunftsmusik. :-)

> There's still a lot of work awaiting.

I know, I know. But the secret is not to do the work, but to get to know
the people who are willing to do the work for you. :-)

> Keep it up, and merry Xmas.

Merry X-mas to you too. (And I do have to admit that it's been a while
since I visited the CDO's web pages.)

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 05:43:52 -0400 (AST)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: Re: Origami Deutschland Web Pages GREAT!

On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, Carole Young wrote:
> I checked out the page and looked at the previous newsletters.  I looks
> interesting.  I applied to get info to join.  Thanks for the notice.

Do you think it's necessary to point out that the newsletters and all
other publications are in German? I seem to have forgotten to mention that
anywhere on the pages, and I don't know whether everybody would now that
"Deutschland" is Germany.

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 07:20:50 -0400 (AST)
From: Sy Chen <sychen@erols.com>
Subject: Re: 3-d soft & origami

Hi, Ariel,

Are you talking about folding animation between steps? Or 3D view of model
from any perspective point? Probably both!

As for the animation part the best one I have seen is Robert Lang's old
works, which can be found in ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/programs/OriManip.hqx
Robert has no intention to continue this work.
Kitty Hawk comes out some good CD-ROM and shareware programs to show some
of dynamic folding stuff. But you have no control about implementing your
own design/folding.

AS for perspective viewing 3D model any 3d CAD program will do the job. But
I am not aware of any published diagram using real 3D CAD construction. Let
me know if anyone did it.

|------------------------------------------------------\
|  _   Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) <sychen@erols.com>     |\
| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\
|---------------------------------------------------------|

At 10:20 AM 12/23/97 -0400, Ariel wrote:
>
>Being a folding a quite simple 3-dimensional geometrical figure, it should
>be fairly easy to draw all intermediate steps in a 3d-cad program, and even
>more, ** animate ** those steps, so that you see as in a film-like " as
>done by an invisible hand" how the folding is done, being even able to
>change/rotate the folding and see it from different views.
>
>I know it sounds a bit too science fiction, but it could be fun to see
>what would happen.
>
>Does anyone know of anyone doing so ? any sofware for doing so ?





Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:33:25 -0400 (AST)
From: youngcj@ix.netcom.com (Carole Young)
Subject: Re: Origami Deutschland Web Pages GREAT!

I thought that the web page made that pretty clear, giving a choice of
which language.  But maybe you should.  I thought it would be great
since I look for ways to keep studying German.  It is more fun if the
language is associated with something you WANT to know or do. Have you
ever scanned a foreign language text, convert to text then apply a
language translator program to it.  I have and the translations are
decent.  If you don't have a scanner, and know some of the language,
then confusing text can be typed into a translator to get the meaning.
It takes motivation of course.

Danke,

Carole





Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 22:39:33 -0400 (AST)
From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@usaor.net>
Subject: Mensa Book / Origami Puzzle sighting

Just got a Mensa book (The Ultimate Mental Challenge ISBN 1-56619-977-8)
for Christmas and on page 270 is a "find the word in the big grid filled
with letters" puzzle. Almost all of the letters in the puzzle are the
letters in the word "origami" but the word origami appears only once, and
you are too find it.

Hope everyone had a happy holiday.
Jeff Kerwood
jkerwood@usaor.net





Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 14:09:02 -0400 (AST)
From: JacAlArt <JacAlArt@aol.com>
Subject: Re:  Mensa Book / Origami Puzzle sighting

In a message dated 12/25/97 6:40:19 PM, you wrote:

<<Just got a Mensa book (The Ultimate Mental Challenge ISBN 1-56619-977-8)
for Christmas and on page 270 is a "find the word in the big grid filled
with letters" puzzle. Almost all of the letters in the puzzle are the
letters in the word "origami" but the word origami appears only once, and
you are too find it.
>>

MENSA, huh? I think "too" should have only one "o".





Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 15:48:02 -0400 (AST)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re:  Mensa Book / Origami Puzzle sighting

At 14.10 26/12/1997 -0400, you wrote:
>
>MENSA, huh? I think "too" should have only one "o".

Me to !

Robertoo
         _\|/_
        ( o o )
=====-oOO-(_)-OOo-========+
Roberto Morassi           |
Via Palestro 11           |  Please DON'T quote my full
51100 PISTOIA             |  message in reply... I KNOW
ITALY                     |  what I have written ! :-)
tel & fax (+)39-573-20436 |
E-mail <morassi@zen.it>   |





Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 21:53:54 -0400 (AST)
From: steve179@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: Exposing Yourself

On 12/18/97 04:29:29 you wrote:
>
snipped
>
>Re: Fudge factor -- I have heard about this as well, but I tend not to
>over-use it. I use something like a fudge factor when I have to thin a
>point, but not for other purposes (like concealing the back side of the
>paper that would otherwise shine through on the back etc.).
>

OK ... what is the Fudge Factor ? Does this mean not folding the 2 edges
exactly together ?





Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:06:27 -0400 (AST)
From: JacAlArt <JacAlArt@aol.com>
Subject: Re:  Re:  Mensa Book / Origami Puzzle sighting

In a message dated 12/26/97 11:49:10 AM, you wrote:

<<>MENSA, huh? I think "too" should have only one "o".

Me to !
>>

"Me to" is a joke, right?





Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:53:02 -0400 (AST)
From: jaelle <jaelle1@swbell.net>
Subject: Was gone awhile ...sorry

Hello,

I am sorry I have not written. My computer went
down and I just got it back up and running.
I think ( read ,,, HOPE) I have it fixed.

Walk in Light
Jaelle





Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 03:23:01 -0400 (AST)
From: mplewinska@mindspring.com (Magdalena Cano Plewinska)
Subject: Re: Exposing Yourself

On Fri, 26 Dec 1997 21:53:54 -0400 (AST), steve179@ix.netcom.com
wrote:

>OK ... what is the Fudge Factor ? Does this mean not folding the 2 edges
>exactly together ?

"The Fudge Factor" is a precise mathematical term signifying the
constant you must factor into your equation to obtain the desired
result.

:))))

In origami, the fudge factor is any deviation from the "ideal" fold
you need to make your model look good (or not rip) by the time it's
finished. The exact fudge factor depends on the model as well as the
paper and you'll find it after you have folded the model a few times.
It may mean not folding completely to the landmark line or point or
changing the angle of the fold ever so slightly.

Hope that helps,
--
Magda Plewinska                   mplewinska@mindspring.com
Miami, FL, USA





Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 11:53:50 -0400 (AST)
From: Michael Montebello <florafauna@classic.msn.com>
Subject: RE: Exposing Yourself

OK ... what is the Fudge Factor ? Does this mean not folding the 2 edges
exactly together ?

Yes





Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 14:54:56 -0400 (AST)
From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@pb.net>
Subject: Cranes for Sue

Many of you know Sue Walsh as the Kawasaki Rose. Yes, she actually dressed as
a rose to teach her class at the NYC Convention a year or two ago. Sue taught
the rose at the convention, at "Special Sessions" and impromptu (all you had to
do was ask) in her fun loving, generous style. She always provided ferns and
pretty mylar paper so you completed a lovely bouquet, not just the rose.

Sadly, Sue is battling inoperable cancer that so far has been resistant to
treatment. I'd like to have 1,000 cranes put together before February from her
origami friends. I didn't want to pressure anyone before Christmas, but any
contributions would be appreciated. Please use any 3 inch paper. I'll include
the names of all contributors but please feel free to sign your name on a
crane.

Send the cranes to me as soon as possible. I'll repeat the message after the
New Year for those to busy to check messages during the holiday season.

Rachel Katz
45 Lone Oak Path
Smithtown, NY 11787





Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 01:45:49 -0400 (AST)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re:  Re:  Mensa Book / Origami Puzzle sighting

At 23.07 26/12/1997 -0400, you wrote:

>Me to !
>>>
>
>"Me to" is a joke, right?

;-D





Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 02:03:24 -0400 (AST)
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: Re: Re:  Mensa Book / Origami Puzzle sighting

>
> At 23.07 26/12/1997 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >Me to !
> >>>
> >
> >"Me to" is a joke, right?
>
> ;-D
>
>

 lets stop this write now, it has nothing too do with origami!





Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:21:27 -0400 (AST)
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re:  New Engel book?

> Anyone know if Peter Engel has plans for a new book? Or does anyone
> know him well enough to ask him?

The good news is, Peter is indeed working on a new book. The bad news is,
it's about Indian vernacular architecture, not origami.

Robert





Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 21:09:42 -0400 (AST)
From: DORIGAMI <DORIGAMI@aol.com>
Subject: Re:  kirogami star from blintz base

If anyone knows the kirogami star from blintz base please share it with all of
us.  It sounds like something I've never seen.  Dorigami





Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 21:28:53 -0400 (AST)
From: DORIGAMI <DORIGAMI@aol.com>
Subject: Re:  Cranes for Sue

Sorry to hear about Sue.  She is surely a very generous teacher and also
taught a darling little rose that we put on a hair peice a few years ago.
This was the hit of that convention and I thank her for the wonderful idea.  A
truly gifted and creative origami teacher.  Will send the cranes right after
the first of the year. Hope she is feeling better.  Dorigami





Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 01:05:12 -0400 (AST)
From: ROCKYGROD <ROCKYGROD@aol.com>
Subject: Re:  Re:  Cranes for Sue

I was saddened to hear about Sue.  Every year when I have gone to the OUSA
convention in NY I have always had a goal in mind to learn for that
convention.  A few years ago I had wanted to learn the Kawasaki rose.  I will
never forget the night that during the weeee hours Sue sat and patiently went
over (again and again for me - sometimes a slow learner)  until I finally
mastered it.  I did not want to go to sleep fearing I would forget it.
Needless to say she also supplied me with wonderful garland to go with my
finished rose that I proudly presented to my husband (who so wonderfully
watches our children during my convention trips).  I have never forgotten how
to fold that rose and to this day fold many of them with much pleasure.
I wish her well with her battle with cancer...I will definitely send cranes!
Patty
Albuquerque





Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 03:25:01 -0400 (AST)
From: jcubero@magicnet.net
Subject: Sumo Wrestler?

I'm looking for a good Sumo Wrestler model for a friend.  I remember
seeing one somewhere, but now I can't find it.  Help!

--
Javier Cubero
jcubero@magicnet.net





Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 09:36:33 -0400 (AST)
From: "Sonia Wu (NC)" <swu@virtu.sar.usf.edu>
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI-L digest 950, Sumo Wrestler Model

I believe there is a sumo wrestler model in Origami for Parties (or it
might be Party Origami--anyway, it's a slender glossy paperback that is
commonly available at Barnes & Noble, mostly traditional models).  I
can't say that it's a particularly exciting model, though.  You might be
able to convert one of the human figure models from Kasahara's Creative
Origami.  One of Yoshizawa's books (I think it was Sousaku Origami; the
hardback with the mostly white dust jacket) had at least one
chubby-looking figure in it that you could probably turn into a sumo
wrestler if you don't go into the minute/exquisite detail that is
diagrammed.  My apologies if this suggestion is sacreligious.

Sonia Wu
Florida





Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:20:43 -0400 (AST)
From: Brett Askinazi <brett@hagerhinge.com>
Subject: Treemaker

I know Treemaker is for the Macintosh, but I had an idea about finding an
Emulator and then Running treemaker under the Emulator on a PC.  I found a
demo of Executor (a PC mac Emulator) on the net but the demo only runs for
like 5 mins or something and then stops (no errors it's crippleware).

Has anyone had success running Treemaker under a Mac Emulator ?

B R E T T





Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:03:33 -0400 (AST)
From: Michel Bartolone <bartolon@execpc.com>
Subject: Unicorn?

A very dear friend bought me some really nice paper as a Christmas present.
I think it would make a really nice looking unicorn. Can someone suggest
a specific book, or web site that would have instructions for one?

Michel





Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:25:26 -0400 (AST)
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Unicorn?

>A very dear friend bought me some really nice paper as a Christmas present.
>I think it would make a really nice looking unicorn. Can someone suggest
>a specific book, or web site that would have instructions for one?

I like Montrol's unicorn.  It can be found in his _Mythological
Creatures and the Chinese Zodiac in Origami_ (ISBN: 0-486-28971-0).

-Joel
(joel@exc.com)





Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 13:05:44 -0400 (AST)
From: DonnaJowal <DonnaJowal@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Unicorn?

Patricia Crawford designed a beautiful unicorn.  I think it is in JC Nolan's
book Creating Origami (I'm unsure if that's the correct title).

Donna Walcavage





Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 13:42:44 -0400 (AST)
From: "Thomas C. Hull" <tch@abyss.merrimack.edu>
Subject: origami math announcements

Hi everybody!

Just a few announcements about some additions I made to
my web pages on origami-math:

(1) I put a list of the table of contents of the recently
released book "Origami Science and Art: Proceedings of the
2nd International Meeting of Origami Science and Scientific
Origami" in the bibliography section of my pages.
Check it out.  There are a lot of famous names there!  (It's
good readin'!)

(2) I just put diagrams for my "Pentagon-hexagon Z-unit" with
a drawing of what a finished dodecahedron looks like using
this unit.  I'll be adding more to this about making larger
things in the near future.

Let me know if you like/dislike any of it!  The URL is
http://www.math.uri.edu/~hull/OrigamiMath.html

Happy new Year everyone!

---- Tom "dimples" Hull
     thull@merrimack.edu





Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:32:36 -0400 (AST)
From: Rose.White@parexel.com (Rose White)
Subject: Wall Street Journal origami sighting

On Tuesday, Dec. 30, 1997, the _Wall Street Journal_ printed a small piece
on its front page, part of which read:

"Forget solitaire.  You can take 'minivacations' at work by playing Happy
Birthday on your telephone and using origami to make giraffes out of
business cards, says Rick Davis, a corporate comic who founded the
Institute of Totally Useless Skills."

Happy New Year!

Rose White
rose.white@parexel.com





Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 18:32:34 -0400 (AST)
From: Meristein <Meristein@aol.com>
Subject: Re:  Wall Street Journal origami sighting

Let me be among the first of presumably many to protest the categorization of
origami as a"totally useless skill". What else does one do while waiting for
the idiotic search engine on the computer to locate the legal documents you
have politely asked it for but fold all the bands to put around one'e holiday
greeting booklets(folded, of course). How else to contain all the M & M's at
one's Cinco de Mayo party but to fold triangular and  octagonal boxes to put
them in all over the house? How about all those pesky rubber bands and paper
clips at the office(the one with the idiotic search engine)? How else to be
able to give each co-worker a small gift? How else to create an impromptu
envelope for that late payment?

I could go on, but let us not forget the best use of all for origami, and that
is to delight oneself, friends and colleagues with wondrous unique creations
and keepsakes.

Useless, indeed.

Merida Weinstein





Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 21:24:41 -0400 (AST)
From: Barbra0336 <Barbra0336@aol.com>
Subject: Re:  Re:  Wall Street Journal origami sighting

In a message dated 12/31/97 2:36:43 PM, you wrote:

<<Let me be among the first of presumably many to protest the categorization
of
origami as a"totally useless skill">>

Let me be the second to loudly agree with you.  There are so many totally
useless skills but at least time spent with origami results in something that
is a visual delight to others and often brings people together socially.
Thank you for commenting.





Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 12:58:26 -0400 (AST)
From: Meristein <Meristein@aol.com>
Subject: Origami sighting

While watching "ConAir" New Year's Eve we noted that during Nicolas Cage's
prison stay, he was handed Eric Kenneway's Complete Origami through the bars
of his cell; he proceeded to fold the flapping crane.  Knowing origami is
probably what made him such a fine upstanding person as to save everyone who
deserved saving by the end of the movie.

Merida & Michael Weinstein





Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 13:45:37 -0400 (AST)
From: Mary Cooper <coope029@gold.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Origami sighting

Happy New Year to all!
cranes are a recurring theme.  Tony Leung Chiu Wai plays a hitman with a
conscience who folds a crane after each hit.  (why he is troubled would be
giving away the story)  A neat plot twist occurs near the end of the movie
when Chow Yun-Fat receives a crane as a warning sign.
Happy folding
Mary Cooper

>While watching "ConAir" New Year's Eve we noted that during Nicolas Cage's
>prison stay, he was handed Eric Kenneway's Complete Origami through the
bars
>of his cell; he proceeded to fold the flapping crane.





Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 14:46:16 -0400 (AST)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re: Unicorn?

Donna,
At 13.06 31/12/1997 -0400, you wrote:
>Patricia Crawford designed a beautiful unicorn.  I think it is in JC Nolan's
>book Creating Origami (I'm unsure if that's the correct title).

Also in Harbin's "Origami: a step by step guide", a great old book (1974). I
don't know if we are speaking of the same model.

Roberto
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Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 18:38:52 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Message from Internet

Mustafah,

You are using an email program that allows formatted messages,
or messages formatted for the World Wide Web (HTML markup).

People whose email doesn't read that stuff gets your messages
full of weird characters and/or as a file attachment that gets
parked in some obscure place on their hard drive. It will even
give some email programs fits.

Your email program probably has an option to send messages as
plain text (ASCII). It would be greatly appreciated if you
would choose that option when sending to the origami-L or any
other recipient that you aren't sure can use formatted email.
This probably means everybody but your local network email system.

If you don't know how to find this option in your email program,
please ask your local guru or system administrator.

Valerie Vann





Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 19:09:50 -0400 (AST)
From: mSaliers <saliers@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Origami sighting

That's almost tempting enough to get me to rent the tape.

Is there a web-page for all these "spottings", or is this a void
waiting to be filled?

> While watching "ConAir" New Year's Eve we noted that during Nicolas Cage's
> prison stay, he was handed Eric Kenneway's Complete Origami through the bars
> of his cell; he proceeded to fold the flapping crane.  Knowing origami is
> probably what made him such a fine upstanding person as to save everyone who
> deserved saving by the end of the movie.
>
> Merida & Michael Weinstein





Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 21:34:43 -0400 (AST)
From: Mike & Janet Hamilton <Mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Origami sighting

mSaliers wrote:

> Is there a web-page for all these "spottings", or is this a void
> waiting to be filled?

Joseph Wu has put some of the origami sightings on his web site.  I have also
     been
writing articles for The Paper (OUSA's newsletter) on origami sightings.

Janet Hamilton

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 01:21:28 -0400 (AST)
From: Mustafah Dhada <dhada@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Message from Internet

Sorry. Is this better?
-----Original Message-----
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Date: Thursday, January 01, 1998 6:04 PM
Subject: Message from Internet

>Mustafah,
>
>You are using an email program that allows formatted messages,
>or messages formatted for the World Wide Web (HTML markup).
>
>People whose email doesn't read that stuff gets your messages
>full of weird characters and/or as a file attachment that gets
>parked in some obscure place on their hard drive. It will even
>give some email programs fits.
>
>Your email program probably has an option to send messages as
>plain text (ASCII). It would be greatly appreciated if you
>would choose that option when sending to the origami-L or any
>other recipient that you aren't sure can use formatted email.
>This probably means everybody but your local network email system.
>
>If you don't know how to find this option in your email program,
>please ask your local guru or system administrator.
>
>Valerie Vann





Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 12:06:55 -0400 (AST)
From: Mr & Mrs Owen <djowen@pcl.net>
Subject: Re: Message from Internet

> Sorry. Is this better?
Looks okay so far.  Please send your message again so I can read it.
joyce





Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 12:22:57 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Message from Internet

Yes, much better! Thanx!
(Saves space in the archive, too. :-)

PS: Appropriate subject headings are nice, too...

Valerie
