




Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 16:45:30 -0400 (AST)
From: Teik Seong <tkteik@mbox2.singnet.com.sg>
Subject: Re: Origami Galleries

Hi Helena!

>pages when I get time, probably at the weekend.  Anyway, I will
>be scanning in the photos with the same computer and same scanner
>as I used for the tessellations, so then you'll be able to see if
>they are all the same darkness, regardless of whether I scan photos
>or origami directly, because of the gamma blah stuff or whatever.
>Oh, bye the way, I did look at your pages Teik - they are increadible;
>I was very impressed.  Maybe I will try scanning in my modulars to
>see what results I can get that way.

Well, I'm sure with a little patience and luck, you can easily produce good
     pictures! Especially when modulars
are flat on the scanner's surface. Perhaps you might also like to take a look
     at the following URL (provided by
Yusri) which has quite a lot of useful tips on touching up your photos after
     they are scanned in.

http://www.currents.net/magazine/national/1513/covr1513.html

As a follow up to my previous mail, I have written a program which allows you
     to determine your monitor's
gamma value. Its free ;) and available for downloading on my origami page
     (sources included as well...)

IMHO, as long as your scanner captured the necessary details, all you need is
     some tuning to get what you
want. I might be able to offer some help in the tuning. Just write to me!

Regards,
Teik.
[TK Continent :- http://web.singnet.com.sg/~tkteik]





Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 19:15:34 -0400 (AST)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Tanteidan Convention book...

Last week I put out a message asking for additional folks who would
like to batch up a "bulk" order of:
        Origami Tanteidan's 3rd Convention book

I have had seven responses so far (pretty good, I think), but I wanted
email from me saying that I have your request you need not reply
again.

Please reply to me privately (dwp+@transarc.com) and not to the whole list!

In about a week from now I will get the ordering and pricing info based
on the number of copies that I have requests for, and will pass that
along to the "batch-ee"s so that you don't have to order without
knowing the price.  The message that sparked this idea indicated that
the cost was US$20, and it wasn't clear if that included postage or
not.  I'm hoping that a batch order can cut out a large part of the
postage versus making individual orders.

-Doug





Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 23:04:20 -0400 (AST)
From: steve179@ix.netcom.com
Subject: LIFE

Hi. Can somebody tell me where I can find out about the Long Island Folding
Enthusiasts...where and when they meet. I live in Queens and thought I might
be able to visit . Thanks





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:52:31 -0400 (AST)
From: Paperflex@aol.com
Subject: No Subject

Hi,
I'm one of the (I suspect) many subscribers that faithfully read these
messages but rarely send one. But I was wondering if any of you would care to

I have a young nephew who is in the fifth grade. The other day he finished a
test early, so took a piece of paper and began folding it. His teacher told
him to stop, that he was wasting his time. Of course this hurt his feelings,
since he knows that origami is an art form, and that it is practiced by
serious (also fun loving) adults, like his uncle.

My first inclination was to call his teacher to give her a lecture on the
beneficial aspects of origami for children; but I realized that I would be
over reacting to a very minor incident that she had probably forgotten about,
even if my nephew had not. I am going to send an article or two about origami
and learning or origami as therapy to my sister who wants to pass them on to
the teacher.

Does her attitude bother anyone else, or am I being touchy?





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:56:34 -0400 (AST)
From: Paperflex@aol.com
Subject: Mean Teacher?

(Sorry, I sent this out the first time without identifying myself)

Hi,
I'm one of the (I suspect) many subscribers that faithfully read these
messages but rarely send one. But I was wondering if any of you would care to

I have a young nephew who is in the fifth grade. The other day he finished a
test early, so took a piece of paper and began folding it. His teacher told
him to stop, that he was wasting his time. Of course this hurt his feelings,
since he knows that origami is an art form, and that it is practiced by
serious (also fun loving) adults, like his uncle.

My first inclination was to call his teacher to give her a lecture on the
beneficial aspects of origami for children; but I realized that I would be
over reacting to a very minor incident that she had probably forgotten about,
even if my nephew had not. I am going to send an article or two about origami
and learning or origami as therapy to my sister who wants to pass them on to
the teacher.

Does her attitude bother anyone else, or am I being touchy?

Michael Brunelle
Charlottesville, VA
paperflex@aol.com





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:57:37 -0400 (AST)
From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@kimscrane.com>
Subject: Plain Colored Origami Paper in 6" and 9.75"

Kim's Crane is pleased to announce they now carry plain single color kami
origami papers in 6" and 9.75".  They come packaged in 20, 50 and 100 sheets.
There are 29 colors to choose from.  Please come have a look at
http://www.kimscrane.com/plainkami.html





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:58:53 -0400 (AST)
From: fold4wet@juno.com (Rosalind F Joyce)
Subject: Re: LIFE

First Thursday of month, 7-9pm, Commack branch of Smithtown lib.  e-mail
for directions.  Ros
Fold4wet@juno.com





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:59:21 -0400 (AST)
From: Terry Bastian <tbastian@dmv.com>
Subject: ORIGAMI-L digest

Test...

Knowledge is the Perfection of FAITH....
Come! walk the path and take upon yourself the Quest for True Knowledge..

Come and visit.....
Etherian Dream Weavers Place....
Where the mind dares to wander and one's future is not written in stone..
http://home.dmv.com/~tbastian

there once was a fellow named Bastian
whose manner was at times exasperin'**
when queried by friends "why?"
he'd reply on the sly;
"if I weren't, you'd need lots more aspirin"

** as in exasperating
 -B.K.Downing'1997'-





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:59:57 -0400 (AST)
From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@health.wa.gov.au>
Subject:

has the world ended, or has something happened to stop me getting any
bulletins sine 901?
Clare Chamberlain
Planning Officer
Healthcare Investment Unit
Program Purchasing
Health Department of Western Australia
189 Royal Street, EAST PERTH, WA 6004
Clare.Chamberlain@health.wa.gov.au





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:00:59 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Plea from Russia

Can any of you modular nuts(!) help out? I don't think he's on ori-l, so
you'd have to reply in private.

  ------- Forwarded message follows -------
Hello !!!
Sorry, my English is very bad.
I am intresting origami .
Can you help to us by modular origami, and e-mail how made it ?
Thank you .

Oksana .
Russia, Khabarovsk .
tomcat@tlg.khv.ru

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:01:31 -0400 (AST)
From: "Goveia, William P" <wgoveia@indiana.edu>
Subject: Simple question...

        I haven't seen any correspondence (read The Paper) from Origami
USA in quite a while.  Is everything okay?  Would I be snet a renewal
notice if my membership were lapsing?

        Thanks,
        Bill





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:36:31 -0400 (AST)
From: "Michael G. Wareman" <mike.wareman@oldscollege.ab.ca>
Subject: Tuojiangosaurs help

Hello:

I am trying to do the tuojiangosaurs dinosaur from Fumiaki Kawahata's book
ORIGAMI FANTASY starting on page 105.  I am able to complete up to step 71.
 My model does not look like the image shown at step 73.  The pocket in
step 73 is not free, where did I go wrong?  Is there something I'm missing
to doing step 73 and getting to step 74?

Thank you for any help you can give me.

Michael G. Wareman
mike.wareman@oldscollege.ab.ca





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:52:13 -0400 (AST)
From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com>
Subject: Re: Mean Teacher?

Michael Brunelle (Paperflex@aol.com) wrote about his nephew's
experience in class.

I can sympathize from both sides. (How about that!)

I, too, had teachers tell me to stop folding paper when I was a student.
I was done with my work; they weren't giving me anything else to do; so
I pursued my quest for the smallest possible water bomb. I wasn't told I
was wasting my time---I was simply told I was being "bad."

But, having been on the teacher's end of things, I suspect that the stated
reason for not folding paper wasn't the real reason for telling him to
stop.
Folding paper can be distracting to those around you. The noise is part of
it
(can't you fold that paper more quietly?!) but it also causes those around
you to stop what they are doing so they can check out what you are doing.
This can lead to conversations, which make it even harder for everyone else
to concentrate on something else.

If others in the class were still working on their tests, I think the
teacher was
within her (?) rights to tell him to stop. If you find ways to entertain
yourself
in a classroom that are *too* entertaining, you are causing a distraction
to
others. If everyone was done and the class was waiting ten minutes for the
bell to ring, then folding in class should be OK.

But you are correct that the given reason (you're wasting your time) was
foolish. I'm sure she meant "I would really prefer that you spend this time
quietly working on some homework so as not to distract others in the
class,"
but "you're wasting time (that you could be spending productively doing
homework)" was what came out of her mouth.

He should fold an apple for her. Of course, in doing so, he should be aware
that this would be a test of whether she spoke poorly or really has no
sense of the artistic---it could land in the trash if the latter is true.

Lisa (glad the list's server seems to be recovered!)
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:56:06 -0400 (AST)
From: wkas@juno.com
Subject: Re: Mean Teacher?

I'm another lurker who hasn't yet posted, but this one is too good to
pass up.

Michael Brunelle writes:

>I have a young nephew who is in the fifth grade. The other day he
finished a
>test early, so took a piece of paper and began folding it.

Good for him.  I didn't start doing this until I was about 12, but I
continued folding during class lectures and discussions through high
school, college, and graduate school. I'm now 39, and I *still* do it
occasionally during continuing education seminars when my mind starts to
wander - because I've always found that when this happens, I can fold
something familiar almost by reflex, with part of my brain while the rest
pays attention. If I didn't fold, I'd fall asleep or pull out a newspaper
and do the crossword.

>His teacher told
>him to stop, that he was wasting his time.

Hmm.  You might suggest to that teacher that if your nephew is finishing
tests quickly enough that he has time to fold anything more than a crane,
he probably needs a test different from the rest of the class.  And since
she apparently did not give him any other assignment to fill this time,
why is she complaining when he finds something to do on his own.  Sorry,
I'm ranting...

>I am going to send an article or two about origami
>and learning or origami as therapy to my sister who wants to pass them
>on to the teacher.

I think that this is an excellent response, since the problem seems to be
the teacher's lack of familiarity with the subject.  Most of my teachers
never cared about it (in fact, I suspect that most of them didn't know,
since I'd look up every minute or so.  And I usually avoided using
reflective papers like foil (-: ).  One objected and began to direct
frequent questions to me when she saw me folding - she ceased when she
realized that not only could I usually answer them, but that at those
times I was often the only one in the class paying any attention at all.

Bill

==================================
William D. Kasimer
wkas@juno.com
wkas@mindspring.com





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:33:41 -0400 (AST)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: No Subject

>I have a young nephew who is in the fifth grade. The other day he finished a
>test early, so took a piece of paper and began folding it. His teacher told
>him to stop, that he was wasting his time. Of course this hurt his feelings,
>since he knows that origami is an art form, and that it is practiced by
>serious (also fun loving) adults, like his uncle.

>Does her attitude bother anyone else, or am I being touchy?

        I don't know particularly about touchy, but I had a similar
experience in the first year I began doing origami, in my sophomore year of
high school.  I was folding during English class -- granted, folding
_during_ class is something a wee tad different than folding during idle
time after a test, but the teacher was absolutely adamant that I cease and
desist.  (It didn't help that we were in the world's most sterile room,
which, I believe, was architecturally designed specifically to amplify the
crinkling of paper to its maximum annoyance amplitude.)  Being a rebellious
high schooler, you can guess how I followed the advice.  It got so bad
that, at one point, the teacher handed back to me an exam paper that had
clearly been wadded up very tightly, then unfolded.  The teacher had
written across the face of the paper "DO NOT FOLD PAPER IN CLASS!!!"

        I should've kept that exam...

                                                        -- Jerry D. Harris





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:52:17 -0400 (AST)
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Mean Teacher?

>
>
> I have a young nephew who is in the fifth grade. The other day he finished a
> test early, so took a piece of paper and began folding it. His teacher told
> him to stop, that he was wasting his time.

I would first try to find out EXACTLY what happened. Were other students
being distracted by his folding? Does the teacher permit them to to whatever
they wish if they complete a test early. Do they first have to ask the
teacher if they can do whatever it is that they wish to do?
Did the teacher realize that he was doing origami?
And finally in what context did the teacher say that he was wasting his time?
Perhaps the teacher meant that he has other work that is at the moment
academically more important than the paper folding? Did the teacher realize
that he was doing origami, and not just preparing a spitball?

---
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.org
sheldon_ackerman@fc1.nycenet.edu





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:19:48 -0400 (AST)
From: Brett Askinazi <brett@hagerhinge.com>
Subject: RE: Tuojiangosaurs help

I have a question about that too.  How did you come up with the first 1/9th
     fold ?   Did you measure it or is there a trick.

B R E T T

-----Original Message-----
From:   Michael G. Wareman [SMTP:mike.wareman@oldscollege.ab.ca]
Sent:   Wednesday, November 12, 1997 9:37 AM
To:     Multiple recipients of list
Subject:        Tuojiangosaurs help

Hello:

I am trying to do the tuojiangosaurs dinosaur from Fumiaki Kawahata's book
ORIGAMI FANTASY starting on page 105.  I am able to complete up to step 71.
 My model does not look like the image shown at step 73.  The pocket in
step 73 is not free, where did I go wrong?  Is there something I'm missing
to doing step 73 and getting to step 74?

Thank you for any help you can give me.

Michael G. Wareman
mike.wareman@oldscollege.ab.ca





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:09:25 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Mean Teacher

My reaction would be that he/she (the teacher) needs to
see some material about origami as an art form (Robert
Lang, etc; the conferences and so on).

One other comment for the nephew, however: it would perhaps
be best not to fold while others are taking a test or
trying to concentrate: the paper rustling can be quite
distracting...

valerie_vann@compuserve.com





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:16:03 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Plea from Russia

Oksana has emailed me twice recently about modular origami
and my web pages, while I was extremely busy getting ready
for PCOC. I emailed her last night asking for patience while
I catch up. My reply will have to be well-thought out also
obviously as we have a language difficulty.

In the meantime, could Nick or someone email her the Russian
origami connections in St. Petersburg and Moscow?

valerie_vann@compuserve.com





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:37:39 -0400 (AST)
From: Paul Vandine <pvandine@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: No Subject

     First let me applaud you on keeping your temper, if it were
I,(the faint of heart may want to skip ahead) I would have gone to the
teacher and stuffed an Origami Swan up her A**! <G>
     I'm joking of course, but yes, that type of narrow-mindedness in
the classroom is upsetting, but as teachers get to the point where
they feel they have students who don't want to learn, the less they
try to teach.

     What size of city, town etc does your nephew live in?  I find the
larger the city the more close-minded the teachers.  BUT also the
small towns are known for being behind the times.  Could it be that
your nephew's teacher has never even heard of Origami??

Paul
===
World Peace Through Origami

> Does her attitude bother anyone else, or am I being touchy?
>
>

__________________________________________________________________
Sent by Yahoo! Mail. Get your free e-mail at http://mail.yahoo.com





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:50:18 -0400 (AST)
From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@aloha.net>
Subject: Re: Plain Colored Origami Paper in 6" and 9.75"

Kimberly Crane wrote:
>
> Kim's Crane is pleased to announce they now carry plain single color kami
> origami papers in 6" and 9.75".  They come packaged in 20, 50 and 100 sheets.
> There are 29 colors to choose from.  Please come have a look at
> http://www.kimscrane.com/plainkami.html

Hi out there,
        I keep seeing the term "kami" out there and am wondering if the
reference is to "ordinary" origami paper as opposed to foil, washi etc.
I haven't come across kami in catalogs and if one asks for kami in a
Japanese store, you'd simply be asking for paper.  Would someone give a
description please?     Aloha, Jan

--
<http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:55:40 -0400 (AST)
From: "Sergei Y. Afonkin" <sergei@origami.nit.spb.su>
Subject: Re: Plea from Russia

Surely I will do it!

Your Sergei Afonkin, the chairman of St.Petersburg Origami Center
                                  ,    ,
sergei@origami.nit.spb.su        ("\''/").___..--''"`-._
                                 `9_ 9  )   `-.  (     ).`-.__.`)
                                 (_Y_.)'  ._   )  `._ `. ``-..-'





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:59:33 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ultranet.ca>
Subject: Re: Plain Colored Origami Paper in 6" and 9.75"

>       I keep seeing the term "kami" out there and am wondering if the
>reference is to "ordinary" origami paper as opposed to foil, washi etc.
>I haven't come across kami in catalogs and if one asks for kami in a
>Japanese store, you'd simply be asking for paper.  Would someone give a
>description please?     Aloha, Jan

It's origami jargon for the standard thin origami paper, usually coloured
on one side.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Producer, DNA Productions Inc.
t:604.730.0306 x 105     f: 604.732.7331     e: joseph@dna.bc.ca





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:10:36 -0400 (AST)
From: jaelle <jaelle1@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Mean Teacher?

Paperflex@aol.com wrote:

> (Sorry, I sent this out the first time without
> identifying myself)
>
> Hi,
> I'm one of the (I suspect) many subscribers that
> faithfully read these
> messages but rarely send one. But I was
> wondering if any of you would care to
> comment on the following:
>
> I have a young nephew who is in the fifth grade.
> The other day he finished a
> test early, so took a piece of paper and began
> folding it. His teacher told
> him to stop, that he was wasting his time. Of
> course this hurt his feelings,
> since he knows that origami is an art form, and
> that it is practiced by
> serious (also fun loving) adults, like his
> uncle.
>
> My first inclination was to call his teacher to
> give her a lecture on the
> beneficial aspects of origami for children; but
> I realized that I would be
> over reacting to a very minor incident that she
> had probably forgotten about,
> even if my nephew had not. I am going to send an
> article or two about origami
> and learning or origami as therapy to my sister
> who wants to pass them on to
> the teacher.
>
> Does her attitude bother anyone else, or am I
> being touchy?
>

I seldom post unless I feel strongly about
something also. ( giggle ask the Mad Corsican
*laughing*)

Sorry could NOT pass that one up.

I would suggest your nephew offer to give a small
demonstration and explanation to the entire class
on origami as an art form, a teaching tool, as
well as the great stress reliever it has proven to
be over
the centuries. ( yes even in grade school students
are capable of this. Sort of like a show and
tell).
Could help the entire class and maybe teach the
teacher that some kids do not "waste time"
but are actually productive in idle time. Or offer
to teach HER something new.

The sound is distracting I agree. I had teachers
like this as well and it can cause some large
problems
for kids who really want to learn and could excel
academically. They tend to stop reaching for more
than the school system provides and this is sad.
So to stop the noise carry tissue paper that makes

little noise. Kleenex comes to mind. That makes NO
noise at all and is a challenge to fold as well.

Will stop ranting now. I just have a real problem
with teachers who teach by the book only.
Sometimes the book is wrong! Or who think a
student has no rights. Tell your nephew he has the

support of a total stranger to pursue folding in
the classroom ... on the land ... the sea .. and
in the air!

Folders forever!!!!!!

Gail aka jaelle





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:11:28 -0400 (AST)
From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@usaor.net>
Subject: Re: Tuojiangosaurs help

---------
> From: Brett Askinazi <brett@hagerhinge.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Subject: RE: Tuojiangosaurs help
> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 1997 12:20 PM
>
> I have a question about that too.  How did you come up with the first
1/9th fold ?   Did you measure it or is there a trick.
>
> B R E T T

========================

Brett, I wondered the same thing. Here my reiteration of the answer I
received. It is an excerpt from origami-l archives.

========================

>D'gou said: "MY fav. method is the
>parallel lines trick.  Evenly spaced parallel lines will evenly
>subdivide any line crossing them at any angle.  Since
>I do a lot of my folding on or near a ruled cutting mat, that works.
>But so does any graph paper or ruled 'notebook' paper."

This is cool too (especially for things like 9th's).  But D'gou I had a
hard time following your instructions.  After a bunch of playing I
figured it out.  (Of course after I figured it out your instructions
were
perfectly clear). Not that I can do any better, but in case any body
else had trouble too I thought I'd give a try at explaining it.  Maybe
two people saying will make it clearer.  It is soooo great everybody
should take the time to figure it out.  It's really neat.  (I also want
to
verify that I got it right - did I?)  (Sorry you had such nonluck with
the
' S ' method - different strokes for different folks).

1)  Place a sheet of lined paper (not the paper to be divided)
in front of you with the lines vertical as diagrammed below.
"L0" refers to the line going from top to bottom along the left
hand side of the lined paper.

(If the following isn't spaced correctly you can probably
guess what it should look like. If not take it into notepad
or something like that and it'll show it to you correctly.)

                        TOP

L0   L1   L2    L3  L4   L5  L6   L7   L8
 |      |      |      |     |      |     |      |      |
 |      |      |      |     |      |     |      |      |
 |      |      |      |     |      |     |      |      |
 |      |      |      |     |      |     |      |      |
 |      |      |      |     |      |     |      |      |
 |      |      |      |     |      |     |      |      |

                       BOTTOM

2) The paper you want to divide:
         call upper left corner UL
         call upper right corner UR
         call bottom left corner BL
         call bottom right corner BR

3) The line you want to divide is UL - BL.

4) Place your paper on top of the lined paper with
UL - BL along the L0 line.

5) To divide into thirds, without lifting or folding your paper,
rotate it (slide it by pulling UR away from you) until BL
touches the L3 line (keep UL on line L0).  Where the L1
line intercepts the UL - BL edge of your paper is a 1/3rd
mark. Where the L2 line intersects the UL - BL line is the
other 1/3rd mark.

Jeff Kerwood

==================

Brett, if this isn't clear I'll be glad to say more.

BYE :) Jeff Kerwood
jkerwood@usaor.net





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:15:38 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Plea from Russia

Sergei,

Thanks for your quick response. I'm at work and my origami-l
files are at home, so I didn't have your address handy.

Valerie
valerie_vann@compuserve.com





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:50:53 -0400 (AST)
From: michael gebis <gebism@std.teradyne.com>
Subject: Re: Mean Teacher?

> I have a young nephew who is in the fifth grade. The other day he finished a
> test early, so took a piece of paper and began folding it. His teacher told
> him to stop, that he was wasting his time. Of course this hurt his feelings,
> since he knows that origami is an art form, and that it is practiced by
> serious (also fun loving) adults, like his uncle.

Many others have already suggested that you go to the teacher and set her
right with the ways of origami.  The "stop folding" part doesn't bug me--
I suspect had your nephew taken out a canvans and begun painting, or a trumpet
and begun practicing his fingering, or a slab of clay and begun
sculpting, he would have been equally reprimanded.  You must also
remember that the folding of paper signals the creation of the school-
teacher's deadliest of enemies, the paper airplane.  However, if the teacher
did insult origami as a valid form of expression...

Perhaps it would be a good time to have your nephew read Orwell's _1984_,
watch Lucas' _THX 1138_, and read Vonnegut's "Harrison Bergeron".
Someone who is a teacher did not necessarily become such because they were
filled with a love for teaching, and there are a lot of simple-minded
people in the world.  Better to teach your nephew to think for himself
and evaluate "worth" regardless of the whims of authority.





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:22:30 -0400 (AST)
From: Brett Askinazi <brett@hagerhinge.com>
Subject: RE: Mean Teacher?

This is very well put.  Bravo.

B R E T T

-----Original Message-----
From:   michael gebis [SMTP:gebism@std.teradyne.com]
Sent:   Wednesday, November 12, 1997 3:51 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list
Subject:        Re: Mean Teacher?

Perhaps it would be a good time to have your nephew read Orwell's _1984_,
watch Lucas' _THX 1138_, and read Vonnegut's "Harrison Bergeron".
Someone who is a teacher did not necessarily become such because they were
filled with a love for teaching, and there are a lot of simple-minded
people in the world.  Better to teach your nephew to think for himself
and evaluate "worth" regardless of the whims of authority.





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:38:47 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re: folding in class

At 10:54 AM 1997/11/12 -0400, you wrote:
>
>I have a young nephew who is in the fifth grade. The other day he finished a
>test early, so took a piece of paper and began folding it. His teacher told
>him to stop, ...................
>My first inclination was to call his teacher to give her a lecture on the
>beneficial aspects of origami for children; but I realized that I would be
>over reacting to a very minor incident that she had probably forgotten about,
>even if my nephew had not. I am going to send an article or two about origami
>and learning or origami as therapy to my sister who wants to pass them on to
>the teacher.
>
>Does her attitude bother anyone else, or am I being touchy?

I am a teacher who folds---but NEVER when kids are doing a test or other
work.  There is a time and place for everything, and origami at the wrong
time is not an art form, it's fooling with paper when others are trying to
get work done!! The other kids in the class were doing a test???  Don't
encourage your nephew's selfishness.  Other kids have rights, too.

                                                                       Cathy
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 20:16:01 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re: Mean Teacher?

        I'm astonished by the number pf people who think it's OK to fold paper
     in
the classroom while others are working.  Where are you going to draw the
line?  What about the kid who wants to sculpt plasticine?  It's actually
quieter than paper.  Why not paint?  We are talking about a classroom, have
a little respect for the rest of the world.  Some kids need more time to
finish a test, maybe because they are not as clever as the infamous nephew,
or perhaps because they are more clever and have lots more to say.
Patience is required, all pupils have rights, and all must be respected.
        Who said the teacher gave no options for those who finished early?
Usually they are supposed to be reading from library books.  Other books
and papers might not be allowed on the desk if there is a risk of the
answers being copied.  That's just common sense.  If I tell a child to
read, and he's folding paper, he's wasting his time.  Should I be folding
during class?  Of course not!  I have far more important things to do in my
_workplace_.  And school is also your children's _workplace_.   It's not a
circus, it's a place for learning.  That doesn't mean it has to be quiet
all the time, but it certainly must be quiet some of the time.  During a
test, you stay in your seat, and do nothing to distract your peers.  During
the art class, you can fold all you like if the lesson happens to be on
origami.   There is time set aside for recreational activities, the nephew
can fold on his own time.

                                            Cathy
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 20:56:48 -0400 (AST)
From: Garcia Macias Carlos <CGMACIAS@telmex.net>
Subject: RE: Mean Teacher?

        Cathy cathypl@generation.net wrote:

        >      I'm astonished by the number pf people who think it's OK
to fold paper in
        >the classroom while others are working.  Where are you going to
draw the
        >line?  What about the kid who wants to sculpt plasticine?  It's
actually
        >quieter than paper.  Why not paint?  We are talking about a
classroom, have
        >a little respect for the rest of the world.  Some kids need
more time to
        >finish a test, maybe because they are not as clever as the
infamous nephew,
        >or perhaps because they are more clever and have lots more to
say.
        >Patience is required, all pupils have rights, and all must be
respected.
        >      Who said the teacher gave no options for those who
finished early?
        >Usually they are supposed to be reading from library books.
Other books
        >and papers might not be allowed on the desk if there is a risk
of the
        >answers being copied.  That's just common sense.  If I tell a
child to
        >read, and he's folding paper, he's wasting his time.  Should I
be folding
        >during class?  Of course not!  I have far more important things
to do in my
        >_workplace_.  And school is also your children's _workplace_.
It's not a
        >circus, it's a place for learning.  That doesn't mean it has to
be quiet
        >all the time, but it certainly must be quiet some of the time.
During a
        >test, you stay in your seat, and do nothing to distract your
peers.  During
        >the art class, you can fold all you like if the lesson happens
to be on
        >origami.   There is time set aside for recreational activities,
the nephew
        >can fold on his own time.

I agree with your opinion. There are times for studying, for reading,
for practicing
Origami, etc. I am a teacher at college level and i teach in a
laboratory with pc's
and when some students are using their machines for e-mailing to other
people
or making homework during class are distracting the group (when
I'm in the lecture), but in an assignment, if they finished it, they can
use the pc's
for other things.

It's important that we as teachers understand our role, and encourage
our students
to do the right things in the right moments!

Carlos Garcia M.
cgmacias@telmex.net





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:13:24 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: RE: Mean Teacher?

At 08:57 PM 1997/11/12 -0400, you wrote:
>It's important that we as teachers understand our role, and encourage
>our students
>to do the right things in the right moments!
>
>Carlos Garcia M.
>cgmacias@telmex.net
>

Exactly!!!  Even the most wonderful things in the world are only wonderful
when they occur at the right times.

                                                         Cathy
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:35:39 -0400 (AST)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: RE: Mean Teacher?

Carlos Garcia M. wrote:

>I agree with your opinion. There are times for studying, for reading,
>for practicing
>Origami, etc. I am a teacher at college level and i teach in a
>laboratory with pc's
>and when some students are using their machines for e-mailing to other
>people
>or making homework during class are distracting the group (when
>I'm in the lecture), but in an assignment, if they finished it, they can
>use the pc's
>for other things.
>
>It's important that we as teachers understand our role, and encourage
>our students
>to do the right things in the right moments!

        I wholeheartedly agree that there are appropriate and inappropriate
moments in which to fold paper, and when quiet is called for, it's an
inappropriate moment, such as during an exam.  However, recall that, in the
original message that initiated this thread, the teacher did NOT say "Don't
do that; it's too noisy!"  He/she said:  "Don't do that; it's a waste of
time!"  IOW, it wasn't a criticism of the appropriatness of the timing of
the folding...it was a value judgement about origami as a whole.

        But...as long as we're on the subject of appropriate/inappropriate
times to fold paper, I have found from personal experience that (at least
in very large college lecture halls) giving my hands something to do allows
me to be more alert than if I were doing nothing other than listening,
particularly in those boring classes!  If I hadn't subtly folded in the
back of the room while listening to the professor lecture, I'd've very
likely dozed off!  So while it was officially inappropriate, technically,
it was all that saved me!  ;-D

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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:45:33 -0400 (AST)
From: Unafolder@aol.com
Subject: the evil teacher

This misled instructor must be taught a lesson.  Sit down with your son and
fold 1000 unafolders.  Leave them in her car.  You'll find the image of the
unafolder at:

http://members.aol.com/unafolder





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:55:22 -0400 (AST)
From: rickbissell@ncweb.com
Subject: Re: Simple question...

At 11:01 AM 11/12/97 -0400, Bill wrote:
>       I haven't seen any correspondence (read The Paper) from Origami
>USA in quite a while.  Is everything okay?  Would I be snet a renewal
>notice if my membership were lapsing?

I haven't seen "The Paper", nor my membership card (due last Feb), nor the
book that I ordered through the lending library last August.

I know this is a small, volunteer, non-profit organization - but if things
don't get much better I may not renew my membership, and I would definately
think twice (three times) about ordering anything from them.   I think some
changes are in order over there.

Now about this listserver....
        -- Rick





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:51:04 -0400 (AST)
From: amacd@bmi.net (Alice MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Mean Teacher?

Boy there sure is a lot of anti-teacher venom out there! I for one, teach
5th grade,and all the required curricula, but my kids just finished making
origami dinosaurs and itty-bitty cranes. We thoroughly enjoy what we do,
but I also say stop and desist sometimes.  Give the lady a break, and find
out the whole story PLEASE! As a compromise/peace offering, your nephew can
offer my 5th grade as a pen-pal/origami exchange project - we'd be happy to
share and exchange some things with his class.  Any other takers out
there??





Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:52:17 -0400 (AST)
From: Sy Chen <sychen@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Plain Colored Origami Paper in 6" and 9.75"

At 03:51 PM 11/12/97 -0400, Jan wrote:
>       I keep seeing the term "kami" out there and am wondering if the
>reference is to "ordinary" origami paper as opposed to foil, washi etc.
>I haven't come across kami in catalogs and if one asks for kami in a
>Japanese store, you'd simply be asking for paper.  Would someone give a
>description please?     Aloha, Jan
>

You are right! Kami is mis-used by origami people in origami society for a
while. It might be too late(?) for us to turn around.

|------------------------------------------------------\
|  _   Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) <sychen@erols.com>     |\
| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:36:12 -0400 (AST)
From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@health.wa.gov.au>
Subject:

welcome back!

Finally a couple of grizzles!  Please keep writing to me, but not to ask
me for Australian animal models - the best are mostly folded by
non-local folders, and this is a whole continent (Perth to Sydney is as
far as London to Moscow) - here in the West we don't have koalas or
platypuses!  Koalas are, in fact , aggressive, smelly creatures, whose
main attribute is that their food turns into alcohol when digested,
resulting in their spending most of their lives inebriated, snoozing in
trees!
Secondly, please don't put the whole letter you are replying to - I have
to sneak time to read this stuff, and often over half is repeats!! (A
bit like TV)
A glimmer of colour now regarding kami.  Kami is just the Japanese for
paper (if you know, bear with me, many don't).  The 'ordinary' origami
paper is called iro-gami in Japan (literally coloured paper) - why not
use that term, rather than kami - It's also easy to remember, just an
anagram of origami!
Well, it's lunch-time now, so I'll brave the summer heat, and go for a
walk - mind you, it's only 27 Celsius today - might need my jumper (this
is just for you chaps facing a long cold winter)

clare





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 01:26:14 -0400 (AST)
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: Re: Mean Teacher?

>
>
> Michael Brunelle (Paperflex@aol.com) wrote about his nephew's
> experience in class.
>
 I was always told that if I finished a test early then I should go back
 over *again* to check and even *again and again* to check for errors and
 I should try to do the problems differently to see if I get the same
 answers that I did the first time.  The teacher may have been refering to
 this.  She may have meant that at that particular point in time it was a
 waste to fold and instead he should be using that time to double-check
 his work and keep double-checking until the test time runs out.  Sorry,
 but I have to agree with the teacher; I have always been told to go over
 my work until the test time runs out.

--
 Douglas Zander                |
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       |
 Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA     |





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:23:41 -0400 (AST)
From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@usaor.net>
Subject: Re: Mean Teacher?

Michael:

One, we shouldn't assume she is hateful towards origami. It was just a
passing remark said during a no doubt busy day.

Two, we shouldn't assume she was unfounded in asking him to stop.

My approach to this would be simple. How about your nephew talks to his
teach. Talking often helps people understand one another. He can tell
her(?) that he thinks of origami as an art and he was hurt by her comment
about it being a waste of time. He could also say: "I'm not meaning to
challenge your authority, I'll of course do as you ask. But I was wondering
what it is about folding after a test that disturbs you." My guess is the
teacher would be understanding and the problem would be easily resolved. Of
course there are icky teachers who will be dorks about it but try talking
and if it doesn't work then you/he/whoever can try something else.

BYE :) Jeff Kerwood
jkerwood@usaor.net





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:24:46 -0400 (AST)
From: Jean Villemaire <villemaire@videotron.ca>
Subject: Robert Neal a Montreal (FR & EN)

Salut !

Dimanche dernier, Grard Blais et moi-mme avons rencontr Robert Neale,
co-auteur de _Origami, Plain and Simple_ et crateur prolifique.  Nous nous
tions donn rendez-vous dans un petit caf, "un endroit o le caf serait
trs bon" avions-nous assur  son ami Jean-Claude Lejeune qui nous a servi
d'intermdiaire pour l'organisation de cette rencontre.  Et le caf a en
effet t trs bienvenu en cet avant-midi pluvieux.
        Robert, sa femme et un couple d'amis taient  Montral par plaisir.
  C'est donc dans une atmosphre trs dcontracte que notre rencontre s'est
droule.  Je leur avais prpar un modle chacun, une grenouille de mon cru
pour Robert qui en prsente trois dans son livre ( "After all, aren't we in
Frog Country?" ) et ma fameuse toile au noyau spiral bicolore pour
Jean-Claude.  Quand Grard est arriv, il a fini une rose de Kawasaki qu'il
avait aussi apport pour l'occasion.  Ce sera notre pourboire.  Aprs ces
prsentations d'usage, nous avons simplement jas.  Ce fut un premier contact
somme toute chaleureux et encourageant.  Ainsi, aprs leur avoir racont la
gense de notre club et leur avoir expliqu le cadre informel et amical qui
prside  nos activits, Robert n'a pu s'empcher de faire le rapprochement
avec les tout dbuts des Friends of Origami autour de Liliann Oppenheimer,
qui sont  l'origine de la grande association amricaine OUSA.
        Nous avons galement chang  btons rompus sur diffrents aspects
de l'origami, la cration, l'apprentissage des enfants en bas ge,  sa
centaine de botes de modles originaux, les tendances ( techno-pliage vs
artistique ), un peu d'histoire rcente du mouvement de l'origami dans le
monde, ses liens avec James Sakoda, sa rencontre impromptue avec Yoshizawa...
 Toutes choses qui font le pain quotidien d'un bon plieur de papier.
        Robert nous a galement fait bnfici de son adresse  plier et
animer des modles plis.  Car il ne faut pas oublier qu'il est aussi
magicien.  Et  cet effet, il nous a laiss un petit document indit o sont
illustrs quelques "tours"  faire avec du papier monnaie ( ou tout autre
coupure de 3 X 7 po. ).  Puis il nous a donn une autre version d'oiseau qui
bat des ailes, semblable lui ai-je fait remarquer au "fluttering phesant" de
Kasahara.  "Oui, dit-il, il a oubli de mentionner sa source..."  ( Et une
petite vite sur les droits d'auteur. )
        Nous nous sommes laisss en nous promettant nous revoir.  Robert
compte bien contacter le club de pluieurs de Burlington o il demeure.
Peut-tre certains membres de chacun de nos clubs seraient-ils intresss
un petit sommet bilatral, une sorte d'change amical.  Aprs tout,
Burlington, c'est quasiment moins loin que Qubec...

Alors, au plaisir de vous revoir bientt,
                    ___________________
                    |                 |
                    |                 |
                    |                 |
                    |      }---{      |
                    |      |0 ,0      |
                    |     /'\   \     |
                    |    |'''|  |     |
                    |    |'  /  /     |
                    |____|  /_ /______|
    Jean Villemaire     |/-/"-"-|       Le harfang des neiges,
   Montral, QUBEC     |       |       emblme aviaire
                     |_______|       du Qubec

              mailto:villemaire@videotron.ca
                   Origami-Montral :
 http://econo1.ecn.ulaval.ca:80/~pgon/origami/origami.html

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Salut!

On Sunday morning, last week-end, Gerard Blais and I met Robert Neal,
co-author of _Origami, Plain and Simple_ and also a very creative folder.  We
had agreed to meet in a place "where coffee would be excellent" as we were
asked to by Jean-Claude Lejeune, his friend who helped us to book all this.
Coffee was excellent indeed and very welcome on that rainy morning.
        Robert, his wife and friends came to Montreal for simple pleasure.
Our meeting stayed in that mood.  I had prepared my own version of a folded
frog for Robert who has three in his book ( "After all, aren't we in Frog
Country?" ) and my not yet famous star with a bicoloured nucleus for
Jean-Claude.  Grard, on his part, finished a Kawasaki rose we left as a tip
for the waiter.  These "formalities" done, we simply chatted in a very warm
and cheering way.  We told how our club started and explained about the
unformal and friendly way we work.  Hearing that, Robert couldn't keep from
tiing up with Lillian Oppenheimer's Friends of Origami that became OUSA.
What an encouragement!
        Then, we kept on chatting about anything related with origami,
creation, teaching to youngsters, his hundred boxes of origami creations,
different trends in origami (techno vs artistic), a bit of origami history,
ancient and more recent, others great origami masters, his friend Sakoda and
his unexpected meeting with Yoshizawa...  All things that are a good folder's
daily deed.
        We also were greeted with Robert's skills.  Must we not forget he is
also a magician.  He left us with a small unpublished paper in which he
presents a few tricks to perform with dollar bill (or any 3 X 7 in. cutting)
 And what about another version of a flapping bird he folded before us?
Isn't it Kasahara's Fluttering Phesant, I said.  Maybe, did he reply, but
Kasahara did forget to mention who created it... (That was a quick one on
copyrights.)
        We left after promising to see each other once more.  Robert should
contact Burlington's origami club.  Maybe some of us and some of them would
be interested in exchanging over a joint meeting.  Burlington, after all, is
yet closer than Quebec City...

So, hoping to see you all very soon,
                    ___________________
                    |                 |
                    |                 |
                    |                 |
                    |      }---{      |
                    |      |0 ,0      |
                    |     /'\   \     |
                    |    |'''|  |     |
                    |    |'  /  /     |
                    |____|  /_ /______|
    Jean Villemaire     |/-/"-"-|       The Snowy Owl,
   Montral, QUEBEC     |       |       Quebec's
                     |_______|       National Bird

              mailto:villemaire@videotron.ca
                   Origami-Montral :
 http://econo1.ecn.ulaval.ca:80/~pgon/origami/origami.html





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:25:11 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: My booklet...

Hi all,

sorry for the delay in following up my earlier note - my hopes of
accepting credit deals for my booklet "Fold with feeling" (see my home
page for samples/details & rave review in the last copy of BO) haven't
come to pass. so it's a cheque in UK pounds or an IMO or your currency
plus exchange fee.

Postage;

US              1.30
Europe           .56
Australia       1.51
England          .26

plus 3.50 for the booklet. If you pay in dollars or other foreign
currency, add enough to cover the cost of having it turned into real
(British) money.

A total cost of around 5 pounds is major league money, I'm sure you'll
agree. If you wanted to round that up to ten pounds I'd have no real
objections ;)

Let me know the dedication & when the dosh comes through, I'll sign &
post.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:35:04 -0400 (AST)
From: origami@cheshire.shore.net (Origami mailing list)
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention book...

Hi Doug,
Can I get in on this batch order, too? There's a cool Yoda in the book that was
     taught at PCOC.

- Elsa





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:27:10 -0400 (AST)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Robinson's booklet ...

If you just want the booklet, why not see if you can't find a
friendly BOS and negotiate a trade - currency handling is expensive.
I've just sent a copy to a lucky recipient in the US...

Richard K
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:43:20 -0400 (AST)
From: EMADIANE@aol.com
Subject: origami class pen pals

Alice, I teach a short course in origami each semester in my kids' after
school recreation program. We just finished the fall class in which I had 6
third graders enrolled. I expect them and their friends in the next class in
January. I'd be delighted to try an origami student pen pal exchange. Some of
these students are genuine enthusiasts with some real talent who I believe
would enjoy the contact with other child folders. Any others interested out
there?

Diane Kleinman





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:14:08 -0400 (AST)
From: Paul Vandine <pvandine@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention book...

Me too!  Sned me the info!

===
World Peace Through Origami

---Origami mailing list <origami@cheshire.shore.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Doug,
> Can I get in on this batch order, too? There's a cool Yoda in the
book that was taught at PCOC.
>
> - Elsa
>

__________________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:12:07 -0400 (AST)
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: New Website !

Origami greetings from Fascinating Folds -

If you haven't visited our website lately, you might want to take a few
minutes and see all the changes.  We completely upgraded the entire
site, greatly improved the on-line ordering and have added lots of new
books and papers.  There is also a new feature in the Origami Land
section that might be especially interesting - The Origami Diagrams.
This is a subscription area which includes models from Michael
LaFosse and Carmel Morris and if this area is successful, we'll plan
on enlarging it in the future.  Among the new items of interest might
 be the Kai Washi - details on the Artisan Paper page.  These are
packages of 8 1/2 x 11 printer compatible paper, but the good
thing is that some of them are extremely suitable for origami folding -
 particularly boxes.  There is a sample book available as the
weights differ depending on the individual paper.  There are new
origami papers, too - especially in the Prints and Special categories.

At any rate, enjoy the new website and let us know what you think!
Happy folding -
Bren
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- - - - - - - - - - -
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Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:41:29 -0400 (AST)
From: "Daniel J. Byrne & Candice Bradley" <djbyrne@pop.athenet.net>
Subject: Re: the evil teacher

The comment about folding 1000 unafolders is pretty cute but it gave me an
idea.  If this were one of my sons, I'd probably suggest he fold some models at
home and give them as gifts to the teacher with a sincere verbal apology for
folding during class.

"Ms. x, I'm sorry I was folding in class.  I won't do it again.  Here are some
models I folded at home.  I thought you might enjoy having them."

Just an idea --

from a mom *and* a (college) teacher
(candice bradley)

P.S.  I'm currently folding a lot of boxes to give to my 23 ecological
anthropology students as reminders to "think outside the box" (e.g. to
challenge their current paradigms).  cb

                 email:  djbyrne@athenet.net
                 candice.bradley@lawrence.edu
             http://www.lawrence.edu/~bradleyc/





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 21:25:39 -0400 (AST)
From: "Nancy B. McNitt" <nbm@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Simple question...

At 11:01 AM 11/12/97 -0400, you wrote:
>       I haven't seen any correspondence (read The Paper) from Origami
>USA in quite a while.  Is everything okay?  Would I be snet a renewal
>notice if my membership were lapsing?
>
>       Thanks,
>       Bill

I got my OUSA Magazine today.
Glenn McNitt





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:30:41 -0400 (AST)
From: Simon Burchill <Simon.Burchill@jcu.edu.au>
Subject: Molecular Origami.

G'day,

I was thinking of purchasing the book Molecular Origami by Robert M.
Hanson, but I am slightly put off by the price. Has any one on the list
read this book? If so, what is the standard of the origami? Does it follow
the _traditional approach_ (one square, no cuts) ? In short, is it worth
the asking price sight unseen?

Thanks,

Simon.
(Simon.Burchill@jcu.edu.au)

P.S. Please cc responses to the return address. My reception of the
origami digest appears to be somewhat sporadic these days...





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:40:25 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re: the evil teacher

At 10:46 PM 1997/11/12 -0400, you wrote:
>This misled instructor must be taught a lesson.  Sit down with your son and
>fold 1000 unafolders.  Leave them in her car.  You'll find the image of the
>unafolder at:
>
>http://members.aol.com/unafolder
>
>
>
Too funny!!!  I must have the folding instructions for the unafolder!

                              Cathy
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:47:01 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re:

At 12:36 AM 1997/11/13 -0400, you wrote:
>Well, it's lunch-time now, so I'll brave the summer heat, and go for a
>walk - mind you, it's only 27 Celsius today - might need my jumper (this
>is just for you chaps facing a long cold winter)
>
>clare
>

Thanks a Heck of a lot!!!!  We've got snow on the ground already, and a
predicted low of -9 C tonight.  The early winter is encouraging some to put
their Christmas decorations up already!

                                 Cathy
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 23:08:53 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re: Robert Neal a Montreal (FR & EN)

At 09:00 AM 1997/11/13 -0800, Jean Villemaire wrote:
>Salut !
>
>Dimanche dernier, Grard Blais et moi-mme avons rencontr Robert Neale,
>co-auteur de _Origami, Plain and Simple_ et crateur prolifique.

Sigh............I wish I could have been there.........

 Ainsi, aprs leur avoir racont la
>gense de notre club et leur avoir expliqu le cadre informel et amical qui
>prside  nos activits, Robert n'a pu s'empcher de faire le rapprochement
>avec les tout dbuts des Friends of Origami autour de Liliann Oppenheimer,
>qui sont  l'origine de la grande association amricaine OUSA.

Hey, don't let it go to your head!!!We still have a long way to go!  Maybe
we can get a little room at the Musee des beaux arts?????  ("Robert Neal
says we remind him of......")

                                   Cathy

******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net
