




Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:09:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: ktomlinson@platinum.com
Subject: Littleton, MA, USA Origami Meeting October 28, 1997.

Hi,

For those of you in the Massachusetts or southern New Hampshire area, I'm
happy to announce the
third meeting of the Littleton origami group (but, hey, who's counting?
:-).

We will be meeting on the main floor of the library this time in the
"Conference/Homework Room" -- the glassed in area
to the right of circulation desk.

When: Tuesday, 28 October 1997, 6:30 - 9:00.
Where: Reuben Hoar Public Library, Shattuck Street, Littleton, MA
Telephone: (978) 486-4046.
Directions:  Get to the junction of routes 2A/110, 119 and 495.  This
intersection is in the center of town at the only traffic lights.
There's a Mobile station and Bob's Solid Oak nearby.

1. Coming from 2A East take a left at the lights onto King Street (110/2A
West) toward Ayer, MA.  Coming from 119
    West take a right at the lights onto King Street toward Ayer, MA.

2. You'll pass Bob's Solid Oak and a Shell station on the right, then a
cemetery.  At 2 tenths of a mile from the light is
    a right hand fork -- this is one entrance to Shattuck Street.

If you miss it, continue on 110/2A for 5 tenths of a mile.  The other
entrance to Shattuck Street is on the right opposite
Badger Funeral home. The sign says Town Offices.

There's parking to the left and rear of the building.

Hope to see you there!

Kristine Tomlinson
ktomlinson@platinum.com
Waltham, MA, USA





Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:22:40 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: CDO Convention update

Hi all !

For the benefit of those interested in the CDO Convention (7-9 December),
here is an updated list of the "foreign" friends expected to attend:

from USA: Chris Palmer, Tom Hull, Mette Pedersen, Jan Polish
from France: Claudine Pisasale
from UK: Martin Wall, Dave Brill
from Belgium: Herman Van Goubergen
from the Netherlands: Paulo Taborda Barreto
from Germany: Gabriele Gottenthaler, Paulo Mulatinho & Silke Schroeder (likely)
from Sweden: Dino Andreozzi & wife

More info on CDO website:

http://www.essenet.it/cdo

Roberto
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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:23:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: ktomlinson@platinum.com
Subject: Need ideas for K-6th grade

Hi,

A local Unitarian church has asked if I'd be interested in doing one of
four "activity Sundays" where they get all the kids from kindergarten
through 6th grade together to work on a project. The only goal of the
activity is that it have a service component.  For example, packing "care
packages" for prison inmates, cleaning up the church grounds, and so on.

When it comes to teaching children I'm clueless.  The only things I could
think of was making crane garlands or maybe really simple but colorful
kusudamas, or something little kids could contribute pieces of and older
kids could put together and give to elders or shut-ins.  Some simple
kirigami decorations came to mind if we use blunt scissors :-).  It may be
fun for them to color and decorate their projects as well, but none of
these ideas strike me as being very imaginative.  I know there are lots of
gifted and creative teachers on the list.  Do any of you have ideas that
will span this age range and have a community service element?  The day
will probably be around February, so there's time to do advance planning.

Thanks in advance for any and all ideas,

Kristine Tomlinson
ktomlinson@platinum.com
Waltham, MA, USA





Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:57:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com>
Subject: Re: Need ideas for K-6th grade

The Ann Arbor group sends all of the models folded at their meetings
(that the folders don't want to keep and that look like something more
than boulders) to a local hospital, where they are used to decorate meal
trays for patients. Perhaps you could arrange to do something like this
with models folded by the kids.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:10:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: jaelle <jaelle1@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Need ideas for K-6th grade

ktomlinson@platinum.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A local Unitarian church has asked if I'd be
> interested in doing one of
> four "activity Sundays" where they get all the
> kids from kindergarten
> through 6th grade together to work on a project.
> The only goal of the
> activity is that it have a service component.
> For example, packing "care
> packages" for prison inmates, cleaning up the
> church grounds, and so on.
>
> When it comes to teaching children I'm
> clueless.  The only things I could
> think of was making crane garlands or maybe
> really simple but colorful
> kusudamas, or something little kids could
> contribute pieces of and older
> kids could put together and give to elders or
> shut-ins.  Some simple
> kirigami decorations came to mind if we use
> blunt scissors :-).  It may be
> fun for them to color and decorate their
> projects as well, but none of
> these ideas strike me as being very
> imaginative.  I know there are lots of
> gifted and creative teachers on the list.  Do
> any of you have ideas that
> will span this age range and have a community
> service element?  The day
> will probably be around February, so there's
> time to do advance planning.
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all ideas,
>
> Kristine Tomlinson
> ktomlinson@platinum.com
> Waltham, MA, USA

   When I was working with young ones we would
make the more easily folded animals and send them
to childrens burn and cancer floors in hospitals.
We would get a list of the various hospitals and
let the kids pick out where they wanted to send
them. They would decorate and sign them. Some even
sent their pictures with them so it seemed more
like a friend. Sadly now there are children in
hospices with AIDS as well and these children seem
to be forgotton on all the charity pleas.

jaelle





Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 19:28:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: Unafolder@aol.com
Subject: The scandal revealed

I, the Unafolder, am prepared to once again serve the online origami
community.  I have particularly sensitive information regarding shocking
romantic encounters between prominent members of the origami community.    I
now ask you, the members of origami-l, if you are prepared to have the
secrets of the crease giants revealed.

I await your response.

Unafolder





Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:12:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: jaelle <jaelle1@swbell.net>
Subject: [Fwd: Need ideas for K-6th grade]

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:53:21 -0700 (MST)
From: "margery.webb" <Margery.Webb@asu.edu>
Subject: Re: Need ideas for K-6th grade

Or fold waterbombs filled with some catnip for the kittens at the animal
shelters!  A while back someone suggested making them for the animal
hospitals because they are disposable!  Think of all those neglected
kittens... somewhat tongue in cheek, for I have spade & neutered my cats.

Maybe after you have sent the folded pieces, you could go on a field trip
to demonstrate & teach how to fold the cranes.. its good therapy.

Good luck,
Margery

On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, jaelle wrote:

> ktomlinson@platinum.com wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > A local Unitarian church has asked if I'd be
> > interested in doing one of
> > four "activity Sundays" where they get all the
> > kids from kindergarten
> > through 6th grade together to work on a project.
> > The only goal of the
> > activity is that it have a service component.
> > For example, packing "care
> > packages" for prison inmates, cleaning up the
> > church grounds, and so on.
> >
> > When it comes to teaching children I'm
> > clueless.  The only things I could
> > think of was making crane garlands or maybe
> > really simple but colorful
> > kusudamas, or something little kids could
> > contribute pieces of and older
> > kids could put together and give to elders or
> > shut-ins.  Some simple
> > kirigami decorations came to mind if we use
> > blunt scissors :-).  It may be
> > fun for them to color and decorate their
> > projects as well, but none of
> > these ideas strike me as being very
> > imaginative.  I know there are lots of
> > gifted and creative teachers on the list.  Do
> > any of you have ideas that
> > will span this age range and have a community
> > service element?  The day
> > will probably be around February, so there's
> > time to do advance planning.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any and all ideas,
> >
> > Kristine Tomlinson
> > ktomlinson@platinum.com
> > Waltham, MA, USA
>
>    When I was working with young ones we would
> make the more easily folded animals and send them
> to childrens burn and cancer floors in hospitals.
> We would get a list of the various hospitals and
> let the kids pick out where they wanted to send
> them. They would decorate and sign them. Some even
> sent their pictures with them so it seemed more
> like a friend. Sadly now there are children in
> hospices with AIDS as well and these children seem
> to be forgotton on all the charity pleas.
>
> jaelle
>
>

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:12:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jose Tomas Buitrago <buitrago@maxwell.univalle.edu.co>
Subject: Colombian Origami Convention

Hello.
There is more information about our convention.

We hope you can attend. We are waiting for you!

More information in the page:
http://maxwell.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/eventos.html (It's in spanish)

The convention will be on november 28th, 29th and 30th 1997.
It's a weekend. It will begin on friday evening (5 to 8 pm), and the
classes will be all the saturday and the sunday morning. On sunday
afternoon is the end of the convention. Almost all models are original
models.
There will be an exhibition and the saturday evening some fun activities.
The cost is US$30 (cheap!)
The place is in Cali, near the pacific coast. It has about 2 millon habs.
The weather is similar to the summer season with sporadic rain. There're
many places to host in. The prices are very cheap compared with the usa's
ones. You can move through the city by bus with 30 cents or by taxi with 5
dollars. A normal lunch costs 2 dollars.
The change is: 1 dollar, 1270 colombian pesos.

If you need to know more, don't hesitate to write me again.
Good luck!

Our web page is at:
http://maxwell.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/asociacion.html

Jose Tomas





Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:51:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: Cockroach models

Hi!

Does anyone of you know a cockroach model?

As a last resort, I figure that it shouldn't be too difficult to transform
John Montroll's Insect Base into something resembling a cockroach.

Yours, Sebastian                                        skirsch@t-online.de
                         /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:45:13 -0300 (ADT)
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Cockroach models

> Hi!
>
> Does anyone of you know a cockroach model?
>
> As a last resort, I figure that it shouldn't be too difficult to transform
> John Montroll's Insect Base into something resembling a cockroach.
>
> Yours, Sebastian                                        skirsch@t-online.de
>                          /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)

Hmmm.... Sounds fun.  I second the request.
                             ... Mark

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|          e-mail: casida@chimie.umontreal.ca           |





Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 22:22:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Tim Heil <teach@ezl.com>
Subject: Summary and update: miniatures

        About a week ago I asked three questions about folding miniatures
and offered to post a summary.  In addition to the information posted on the
list, some people sent me private email and, with their permission, I'll
include some of that information in this summary.

1) What kind of paper do you like to use ?
        I mentioned glassine specifically in the original post and received
this from Maldon Wilson:

        "Last month, in response to a challenge, I made four mini Kawasaki
Roses. Those were made of a 1" glassine square.  The largest finished rose
was 1/4" in diameter.  I'm not really "into" miniatures but glassine is
currently my favorite paper.  It has a lovely translucent quality,  holds a
crease, and works beautifully on all of Lang's more complex models (insects
for example) because it's so thin."

        Kudos to Maldon for being able to make Kawasaki Roses that small.  I
think that says it all for glassine's folding quality.  Maldon also said
that glassine in 27.5 in. by 50 meter rolls in various colors was available
(as of April) from Flax Art & Design in San Francisco, 1-800-547-7778.  Flax
Art has a web page at http://www.flaxart.com/, but I didn't find any mention
of glassine there.

        I measured samples of glassine from Fascinating Folds at .0015 in.
(.038 mm.) thick.  It's available from that source in approximately 24 by 36
in. sheets in plain white, 13 colors, and 3 textures (white only).  Sizes
vary a little depending on style and color.

        Another paper that was suggested is cigarette paper.  Maarten Van
Gelder said:
        "I once tried and folded a crane from 20 mm square. The paper I used
was cigarette paper ...  That paper is very thin and for a small crane very
nice."

       Jorma Oksanen and Michael Montebello also suggested cigarette paper.
I did a little research and after trying several brands, I found what seems
to be the best of the bunch.  OCB brand paper is available ungummed and
uncreased, in packages of 150 sheets 1.5 by 2.5 in. (39 by 70 mm.) for about
US$ 0.60 per package.  In my experience cigarette paper is a little soft for
folding but don't let my experience stop you from trying it. At .0010 in.
(.025 mm.) this is the thinnest widely available paper (that I could find)
and bears trying.

        Maxfield's paper, available direct (at least in U.K.), from  the
British Origami Society, and from OUSA was suggested by Rob Moes.  He
described it as very thin "in between glassine and kami" and available in
many colors.

        Also suggested were "paper foil" and "gift wrap foil paper" by Rob
Moes and Wayne Ko, respectively.  I've only tried two brands, Hallmark, in
gold and silver colors and Walmart's brand in various colors, both about
.0018 in. (.045 mm) thick.  The only real drawback to foil is that if it
must be unfolded and then refolded in the opposite direction (for example,
petal-folding the wing of crane) it sometimes does not want to cooperate.

        Marcia Miller also suggested Maxfield paper and holographic origami,
flower, pearlized, monocolor, translucent vellums, and frosted mylar.  I
haven't had the opportunity to try any of these.  I believe all but the last
two are available from OUSA and maybe from Kim's Crane and Fascinating
Folds, too.

2) How do you cut the squares?

        I mentioned my technique which is just to fold kami squares in half
and slit down the edge with a knife, dividing the paper into halves,
quarters, eighths, etc.  Works fine if you have a square to start with, but
gets tedious if trying to divide a large square into more than a few smaller
squares.

        Jorma Oksanen uses this method:

        "I usually cut long strips using a ruler and an exacto knife. Then I
use the rulers at the edges of my cutting mat to cut the squares. I have a
selfmade cutting mat built from 25*40 cm plastic board and four
(actually only two) metal rulers."

        I've set up something similar on my cutting mat that works so well
and so easily that I plan to get another small cutting mat and making a
permanent fixture.  I've got two Westcott brand stainless steel rulers
(available inexpensively at almost all office supplies in the U.S.), one of
them 12 in. by 1.25 in. (30.5 cm by 3.2 cm) wide and the other 6 in. by .75
in. (15 cm by 1.9 cm.) wide.  The ends of these rulers are cut very exactly
square to the long edges (I checked them with a machinist's precision
square).  They are cork-backed originally to keep them from sliding but I
removed the cork backing, so the paper would not slide under the edge.  I
taped down the 12 in ruler to the cutting mat,  butted a piece of paper
against the ruler, then butted the long edge of the 6 in. ruler against the
12 in. ruler atop the paper and cut off a strip with the exacto knife equal
to the width of the 6 in. ruler.  Leaving the paper in place, I rotated the
6 in. ruler 90 degrees, butted the end against the 12 in. ruler and aligned
with the end of the paper strip and, voila!, cut off a perfect .75 in. square.
        When I set up a permanent fixture, I will have 2 rulers fastened
down at right angles so that I can use the scales along the edges to make
sizes other than just .75 in and rectangles as well as squares.

3) How do you hold on to the little things?

        Since my fingers are quite dry and slick, I have trouble holding and
manipulating small pieces of paper.  Some suggestions were:

        Maldon Wilson suggested I try using Scotch Restickable Adhesive Glue
Stick (Post-it Glue Stick), so I did.  It was not as tacky as I thought it
would be and worked for a while.  However it soon started rolling up into
little balls and strings and coming off on the paper.

        "To combat dry hands, obtain a bottle of glycerine from the
drugstore and rub a little into the hands." from John Warmington.
        I just happened to have a bottle of glycerine on hand and tried it.
It would be my second choice after Sort -Kwik (see below).  It leaves a
slightly tackier feeling that I'm not sure I'm comfortable with for folding
paper.  However it will definitely be my first choice for practicing
sleight-of-hand with coins.  Double score for John!

        Rob Moes mentioned Sort-Kwik and Janell Jarman spoke of what I
presume is a similar or the same product from Walmart by the name of
Sure-Grip or Grip-Tight.
        I should have thought of this myself.  I repaired computers for
about 15 years and most of our customers were banks.  Banks use this stuff
by the case-lots and I've even used it myself.  It seems to be a soft waxy
material but when you rub a finger on it, it just seems to wet the skin ever
so slightly. It doesn't seem to leave any residue on paper unless you apply
it too heavily and eventually, but not too quickly, seems to evaporate from
the skin.  It might even be glycerine in a waxy base.

        One thing I did not mention that Maldon Wilson brought up is optical
aid.  I'm old enough to wear bifocals and sometimes it's just plain hard to
see what I'm doing with small models.  Maldon suggested using an embroider's
magnifying glass. It is about a 4 inch diameter acrylic plastic magnifier
with a cord to go around your neck and feet that rest against your chest so
you have both hands free under the glass to do whatever tiny work you do.
Works very well and they're not expensive.  I have one I carry with me if I
know I'm going to be folding away from home.  At home, I have a desk lamp
with a 4 in. magnifier built in.  These can be had with either fluorescent
or incandescent bulbs and with magnifiers that go up to 6 inches in diameter.

        This has been my first attempt at a summary on a mailing list.  I've
tried to cover all the points I originally mentioned and those that were
brought up in either private posts or to the list and to give all the other
contributors credit for their ideas.  I apologize if I left anybody out.
I've also described my new experiences as a result of other peoples'
suggestions.

        In retrospect, this seems to be quite a long post.  I think length
could be a potential problem with summaries of any kind.  I'm not trying to
start up the summary thread again, but any critique would be welcome.  I'm
pretty thick-skinned so you won't hurt my feelings.  Is it too long?
overkill? just about right?

        Finally, thanks to everyone who responded to my original questions.
I've learned a number of new things that have already made folding
miniatures much easier for me.

--------------------------------------------------------------
|| Tim Heil         || "The first principle is that you must ||
|| (teach@ezl.com)  ||  not fool yourself -- and you are     ||
||                  ||  the easiest person to fool.          ||
||                  ||     --Richard Feynman                 ||





Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 22:31:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: Tim Heil <teach@ezl.com>
Subject: Re Cockroach models

>I figure that it shouldn't be too difficult to transform
>John Montroll's Insect Base.

Which Montroll book is this in?  I'd definitely like to see it.

--------------------------------------------------------------
|| Tim Heil         || "The first principle is that you must ||
|| (teach@ezl.com)  ||  not fool yourself -- and you are     ||
||                  ||  the easiest person to fool.          ||
||                  ||     --Richard Feynman                 ||





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 02:40:19 -0300 (ADT)
From: John Ahn <ahnjy@student.law.sc.edu>
Subject: Miniatures Summary

Tim Heil,

        Congratulations on a successful summary!  It was well organized and tied
all the threads together very nicely.  I think summaries such as this will
be very informative and appreciated.  Summaries will probably vary in
length depending on the topic and the amount of feedback, but they will
still be shorter than all the threads of a particular subject in the
aggregate.  I think this shows that summaries CAN find a place on our
origami-l if done right.  Once again, good job, Tim.

                                 John Ahn





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 07:23:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: The scandal revealed

Unafolder@aol.com sez

>shocking
>romantic encounters between prominent members of the origami community.

If it's the Paul Jackson one, I know about it!!!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:26:10 -0300 (ADT)
From: Sy Chen <sychen@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Re Cockroach models

>>I figure that it shouldn't be too difficult to transform
>>John Montroll's Insect Base.

At 10:31 PM 10/24/97 -0300, Tim Heil wrote:
>
>Which Montroll book is this in?  I'd definitely like to see it.
>
>

Insect Base and Dog Base can be found in Montroll's Origami Sculptures.

Good luck!

|------------------------------------------------------\
|  _   Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) <sychen@erols.com>     |\
| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:46:59 -0300 (ADT)
From: Sy Chen <sychen@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Cockroach models

I found these through Alex Barber's page:

              Model         Creator                  Book
Lo Scara Faggio 1 (roach)  Alfredo Giunta        Origami gli Insetti
Lo Scara Faggio 2 (roach)  Alfredo Giunta        Origami gli Insetti

Anyone would like to shed some light?

|------------------------------------------------------\
|  _   Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) <sychen@erols.com>     |\
| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:23:02 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ultranet.ca>
Subject: The BOS 30th Anniversary Convention

At long last, here's my report on the BOS Convention:

Things finally fell into place at the end of August for me to be able to attend
     the British Origami Society's 30th Anniversary Convention at York. It was
     a great trip, well worth the expense.

I left Vancouver on Thursday, September 17th, and arrived in London on the
     18th. A long tube (subway) ride took me to King's Cross station where I
     caught a train to York. From the train station, it was a short cab ride to
     the University College of Ripon a

After I checked in, I bumped into some familiar faces: Larry Davis, Erna (last
     name?), and Marcia Mau (along with her husband, Frank). We wandered
     through the town together, stopping to see such sights as the Minster (a
     beautiful old cathedral) and the Sh

We headed back for dinner, and met David Brill (chairman of the BOS) and Mick
     Guy (president of the BOS) in the lounge outside the dining hall. It was
     very strange to have David stand when he saw me and greet me by name! I
     still don't know how he knew who

The Yoshizawas (Mr. and Mrs. Yoshizawa, accompanied by her sister, Miss
     Kikugawa) also arrived for dinner, and I was once again saddled with
     translation duties since June Sakamoto's train had been delayed, and
     Sonoko Strong was not due to arrive until Fri

After dinner, we retired to one of the meeting rooms to do some folding and
     socialising. Other people appeared: June Sakamoto and Kay Eng finally
     arrived, as did Jonathan Baxter, Paul Jackson, and Michael LaFosse. I was
     greeted by some other foreigners, t

Meeting Eric was one of the reasons I had wanted to go to York, and I had been
     fully prepared to apologise to him for showing his work on the Internet
     without prior permission. To my surprise, as soon as he found out who I
     was, he thanked me for helping h

Friday was spent at the Yorkshire Air Museum where we tried to break the
     Guinness world record for flying a paper airplane. We didn't even come
     close, but it was fun nonetheless. It was especially interesting for me
     because the museum is actually an old R

I left a bit early to go back into York and do a little more sightseeing. After
     wandering around for a while, I went to Betty's, a caf that was
     recommended to me by Lynne Truss, an author I had met on the plane. I was
     to meet the Yoshizawas there at 4 p.
High tea was great fun, and the maitre'd was curious as to what we were doing
     (folding, of course!). When she found out that Yoshizawa was the guest of
     honour at the Convention, she asked him to fold something for the charity
     auction that they hold each y

That evening, we set up the exhibition area. This was held in the main hall
     (the Alcuin Room) where we also had our group gatherings. The tables in
     the middle of the long room were soon filled with models, and chairs lined
     the sides of the room for people

There were numerous other people, too. Asgar Malik and his friend Larry (last
     name?) showed up with their Star Trek models, including a nice Enterprise
     and a Romulan Warbird (new style). Very nice. Apparently they'll have a
     book out soon. Two young brothe

Other familiar faces included: Maarten van Gelder, David Lister, John Smith,
     Penny Groom, Susanna Wellenberg, Martin Wall, and Robin Macey. Names that
     I was able to finally put faces to included Alfredo Giunta, Sergei Afonkin
     (and his wife Elena, AKA Alic

Saturday morning, the convention officially started. There were three
     simultaneous sessions all day, with different teachers/lecturers at
     different times. It was all very informal, with no ticketing. People
     simple went to the classes they wished to attend
There was one unpleasant incident when Mrs. Yoshizawa asked me to translate for
     her when she wanted to confront someone for using a Yoshizawa design in
     their book and crediting a different creator. Very tense. As it turned
     out, that person had been told b
There was a banquet on Saturday night, when various people were honoured: David
     Lister, John Smith, and John Cunliffe (of the Envelope and Letter Fold
     Association) were presented with the Sidney French Medal for service to
     the BOS and to origami. The Fren

That night, I spent time chatting with Eric Joisel and he showed me how he
     folds his faces. I found that I had figured out most of it already, except
     for the nose. Little did I know that he was using me as a way to sound out
     his ideas for his talk on Sund
On Sunday, David Brill did his famous review of the exhibition. With so many
     pieces by so many artists, it was necessarily briefer than his usual.
     Still it highlighted nicely the works on display.

All good things must end, however, so we packed up that afternoon to head down
     to London. I had been scheduled to go with Robin Macey back to his home in
     Nottingham, but I ended up accompanying June and Kay as they escorted the
     Yoshizawas down to London b

By the time we arrived in London, and gotten the Yoshizawas settled in their
     hotel, it was after 8 p.m. The bunch of us trooped out to have dinner.
     Yoshizawa wanted a steak, so we went to what turned out to be a French
     restaurant. It was a great meal, wit
That night, I slept on the floor of June & Kay's hotel room (another long tube
     ride out to the hotel after dinner). We all slept like logs; we needed it!

After breakfast, June went off to visit her friends, while Kay and I went into
     London to do some shopping. We visited some paper stores and then had
     lunch. After lunch, I went off sightseeing while Kay did some more
     shopping. I wandered into the British M
Michael was a great host, taking me to see the sights in Surrey, in and around
     Guildford. We ended up seeing an old church (almost 1000 years old),
     visiting the house of Lewis Carroll, and exploring the G.F. Watts Gallery.
     It was rather ironic that we saw

Michael also told me about an incident when he was four years old (ca. 1929)
     when his half-brother Theodore (aged 29 at the time) would threw
     waterbombs at the cats caterwauling on the wall outside the bedroom
     window. This was in Preston, Lancashire. This

Anyway, it was soon time to leave again, and after an uneventful flight, I
     arrived safe and sound back in Vancouver.

Joseph Wu, Origami Artist & Multimedia Producer
T: (604)730-0306 x 105    F: (604)732-7331   E: josephwu@ultranet.ca
W: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:27:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ultranet.ca>
Subject: RE: Summary and update: miniatures

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        "Last month, in response to a challenge, I made four mini =
Kawasaki
Roses. Those were made of a 1" glassine square.  The largest finished =
rose
was 1/4" in diameter.  I'm not really "into" miniatures but glassine is
currently my favorite paper.  It has a lovely translucent quality,  =
holds a
crease, and works beautifully on all of Lang's more complex models =
(insects
for example) because it's so thin."

        Kudos to Maldon for being able to make Kawasaki Roses that =
small.  I
think that says it all for glassine's folding quality.  Maldon also said
that glassine in 27.5 in. by 50 meter rolls in various colors was =
available
(as of April) from Flax Art & Design in San Francisco, 1-800-547-7778.  =
Flax
Art has a web page at http://www.flaxart.com/, but I didn't find any =
mention
of glassine there.

[jw]  Just as a note. Using standard Japanese foil origami paper, I've =
folded, without tools, a Kawasaki rose (the one from OftC) that's about =
4 mm across. Winson Chan (who diagrammed the "new" rose) has also done =
this, and has done the new rose at a similar size (using tweezers).
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:19:51 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Cockroach models

>> Does anyone of you know a cockroach model?

Yes, Naomi Campbell.....

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:24:00 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ultranet.ca>
Subject: BOS 30th Anniversary Convention

Bernie Cosell wrote to tell me that this message was garbled, so here's my
     report on the BOS Convention again:

Things finally fell into place at the end of August for me to be able to attend
     the British Origami Society's 30th Anniversary Convention at York. It was
     a great trip, well worth the expense.

I left Vancouver on Thursday, September 17th, and arrived in London on the
     18th. A long tube (subway) ride took me to King's Cross station where I
     caught a train to York. From the train station, it was a short cab ride to
     the University College of Ripon a

After I checked in, I bumped into some familiar faces: Larry Davis, Erna (last
     name?), and Marcia Mau (along with her husband, Frank). We wandered
     through the town together, stopping to see such sights as the Minster (a
     beautiful old cathedral) and the Sh

We headed back for dinner, and met David Brill (chairman of the BOS) and Mick
     Guy (president of the BOS) in the lounge outside the dining hall. It was
     very strange to have David stand when he saw me and greet me by name! I
     still don't know how he knew who

The Yoshizawas (Mr. and Mrs. Yoshizawa, accompanied by her sister, Miss
     Kikugawa) also arrived for dinner, and I was once again saddled with
     translation duties since June Sakamoto's train had been delayed, and
     Sonoko Strong was not due to arrive until Fri

After dinner, we retired to one of the meeting rooms to do some folding and
     socialising. Other people appeared: June Sakamoto and Kay Eng finally
     arrived, as did Jonathan Baxter, Paul Jackson, and Michael LaFosse. I was
     greeted by some other foreigners, t

Meeting Eric was one of the reasons I had wanted to go to York, and I had been
     fully prepared to apologise to him for showing his work on the Internet
     without prior permission. To my surprise, as soon as he found out who I
     was, he thanked me for helping h

Friday was spent at the Yorkshire Air Museum where we tried to break the
     Guinness world record for flying a paper airplane. We didn't even come
     close, but it was fun nonetheless. It was especially interesting for me
     because the museum is actually an old R

I left a bit early to go back into York and do a little more sightseeing. After
     wandering around for a while, I went to Betty's, a caf that was
     recommended to me by Lynne Truss, an author I had met on the plane. I was
     to meet the Yoshizawas there at 4 p.
High tea was great fun, and the maitre'd was curious as to what we were doing
     (folding, of course!). When she found out that Yoshizawa was the guest of
     honour at the Convention, she asked him to fold something for the charity
     auction that they hold each y

That evening, we set up the exhibition area. This was held in the main hall
     (the Alcuin Room) where we also had our group gatherings. The tables in
     the middle of the long room were soon filled with models, and chairs lined
     the sides of the room for people

There were numerous other people, too. Asgar Malik and his friend Larry (last
     name?) showed up with their Star Trek models, including a nice Enterprise
     and a Romulan Warbird (new style). Very nice. Apparently they'll have a
     book out soon. Two young brothe

Other familiar faces included: Maarten van Gelder, David Lister, John Smith,
     Penny Groom, Susanna Wellenberg, Martin Wall, and Robin Macey. Names that
     I was able to finally put faces to included Alfredo Giunta, Sergei Afonkin
     (and his wife Elena, AKA Alic

Saturday morning, the convention officially started. There were three
     simultaneous sessions all day, with different teachers/lecturers at
     different times. It was all very informal, with no ticketing. People
     simple went to the classes they wished to attend
There was one unpleasant incident when Mrs. Yoshizawa asked me to translate for
     her when she wanted to confront someone for using a Yoshizawa design in
     their book and crediting a different creator. Very tense. As it turned
     out, that person had been told b
There was a banquet on Saturday night, when various people were honoured: David
     Lister, John Smith, and John Cunliffe (of the Envelope and Letter Fold
     Association) were presented with the Sidney French Medal for service to
     the BOS and to origami. The Fren

That night, I spent time chatting with Eric Joisel and he showed me how he
     folds his faces. I found that I had figured out most of it already, except
     for the nose. Little did I know that he was using me as a way to sound out
     his ideas for his talk on Sund
On Sunday, David Brill did his famous review of the exhibition. With so many
     pieces by so many artists, it was necessarily briefer than his usual.
     Still it highlighted nicely the works on display.

All good things must end, however, so we packed up that afternoon to head down
     to London. I had been scheduled to go with Robin Macey back to his home in
     Nottingham, but I ended up accompanying June and Kay as they escorted the
     Yoshizawas down to London b

By the time we arrived in London, and gotten the Yoshizawas settled in their
     hotel, it was after 8 p.m. The bunch of us trooped out to have dinner.
     Yoshizawa wanted a steak, so we went to what turned out to be a French
     restaurant. It was a great meal, wit
That night, I slept on the floor of June & Kay's hotel room (another long tube
     ride out to the hotel after dinner). We all slept like logs; we needed it!

After breakfast, June went off to visit her friends, while Kay and I went into
     London to do some shopping. We visited some paper stores and then had
     lunch. After lunch, I went off sightseeing while Kay did some more
     shopping. I wandered into the British M
Michael was a great host, taking me to see the sights in Surrey, in and around
     Guildford. We ended up seeing an old church (almost 1000 years old),
     visiting the house of Lewis Carroll, and exploring the G.F. Watts Gallery.
     It was rather ironic that we saw

Michael also told me about an incident when he was four years old (ca. 1929)
     when his half-brother Theodore (aged 29 at the time) would threw
     waterbombs at the cats caterwauling on the wall outside the bedroom
     window. This was in Preston, Lancashire. This

Anyway, it was soon time to leave again, and after an uneventful flight, I
     arrived safe and sound back in Vancouver.

Joseph Wu, Origami Artist & Multimedia Producer
T: (604)730-0306 x 105    F: (604)732-7331   E: josephwu@ultranet.ca
W: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:36:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Volunteers wanted (GB only!)

The BOS will be needing volunteers on Sunday 2nd Nov. to count the
supplies stock (again) before it goes into cold storage. What happens to
it then will be decided at the next council meeting. 10am start at
Chatsworth Barn (ring Dave Brill or Shandy Boyd for details)

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:39:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Daniel J. Byrne & Candice Bradley" <djbyrne@pop.athenet.net>
Subject: viking

Howdy folder friends --

I have been a good citizen of the list and searched the various archives
before asking this question.  I'm looking for a viking model because I'd
like to fold one for my college's president, who has a collection of
vikings in his office.  I don't want a viking boat or a viking hat, but
rather a viking person.   Complexity is not an issue.  Any advice?

Candice,
in Wisconsin (and no snow yet!)





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:55:19 -0300 (ADT)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: Re: Re Cockroach models

On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Tim Heil wrote:
> >I figure that it shouldn't be too difficult to transform
> >John Montroll's Insect Base.
> Which Montroll book is this in?  I'd definitely like to see it.

The Insect Base is in Origami Sculptures, together with two beetles (a
weevil and an asparagus beetle) folded from it.

It seems like the ground beetle in OFTC is folded from exactly the same
base, but with a totally different folding sequence. I have not yet
managed (or, rather, tried) to fold the ground beetle from the Insect
Base. Should be fun, though.

Yours, Sebastian                                        skirsch@t-online.de
                         /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:02:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Daniel J. Byrne & Candice Bradley" <djbyrne@pop.athenet.net>
Subject: which japanese model books . . . ?

Here I go again --

A recent Fascinating Folds catalog came with an insert advertising
"Origami Foreign Titles."  There are nine Fuse books, one Kawahata
title, one Yashino title, and seven by Momotani.  These appear to be all
in Japanese (am I right?).  I speak no Japanese but am dying to try
these out.  Are *any* of them good bets for a person who would
only be able to fold from the diagrams?  I don't know what my skill
level is, but I emjoy folding Montroll, Lang, Fuse and Brill models.

I saw a couple of references to Fuse books in Japanese in the archive,
but nothing specific enough for my needs.

Candice





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:27:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ultranet.ca>
Subject: RE: viking

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I have been a good citizen of the list and searched the various archives
before asking this question.  I'm looking for a viking model because I'd
like to fold one for my college's president, who has a collection of
vikings in his office.  I don't want a viking boat or a viking hat, but
rather a viking person.   Complexity is not an issue.  Any advice?

[jw]  There's a two-piece viking face (head + helmet) in KASAHARA Kunihiko's
     "Origami Omnibus".
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:40:29 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Daniel J. Byrne & Candice Bradley" <djbyrne@pop.athenet.net>
Subject: skill level?

Okay, here's my final question of the day (and perhaps the season) --
but I've been reluctant to ask it for fear of starting the email
equivalent of a riot.

What the heck is skill level?

It seems that the question of skill/ability sort of hangs out there
sometimes, especially when communicating with another folder off-list.
I don't think it's a question about hierarchy (there goes the
anthropologist in me talking) such that one origami folder primate must
rank him or herself relative to other origami folder primates.  I do
think we already know who the alpha males and females are in this troop.
But I do think there's a need to figure out what kind of folder is being
addressed, and I just don't know how to answer that question when it
comes up.

I don't think I want to know what kind of folder I am.  What I'd like to
hear about is how the really skilled folks think about skill.   For
example, I recently experienced a sort of skill "leap" -- one day
everything I folded was substantially better and easier than the day
before.  I also remember somebody writing once about beginners needing
to figure out that they need to line up edges, and that being a sort of
"leap" for them.

My stupid primate jokes aside, I am very interested in understanding how
folks think about "skill" in folding origami, not from the hierarchy
perspective, but perhaps from a cognitive perspective.  I'm asking about
process and learning.

Candice





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:33:43 -0300 (ADT)
From: Elizabeth George <emgeorge@msn.com>
Subject: The Paper

    A week or so (maybe two) someone posted a message asking if anyone had
Sept.) I have not seen any responses to this inquiry (maybe I missed them?).
     I have yet to receive the newsletter myself and am wondering if whoever
sent the original query has gotten it yet? It should have info about the now
long past June convention which I was anxious to read. Anyone have any
insight into this?





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:10:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jamii Corley <jamii@swcp.com>
Subject: Re: which japanese model books . . . ?

On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Daniel J. Byrne & Candice Bradley wrote:

> Here I go again --
>
> A recent Fascinating Folds catalog came with an insert advertising
> "Origami Foreign Titles."  There are nine Fuse books, one Kawahata
> title, one Yashino title, and seven by Momotani.  These appear to be all
> in Japanese (am I right?).  I speak no Japanese but am dying to try
> these out.  Are *any* of them good bets for a person who would
> only be able to fold from the diagrams?  I don't know what my skill
> level is, but I emjoy folding Montroll, Lang, Fuse and Brill models.

 My experience with Fuse books at least is you can usually figure it out
from the diagrams. I read a little Japanese but I rarely resort to getting
a dictionary out and actually translating anything. It's usually much easier
to just work with the diagrams and pictures.
               Jamii

>
> I saw a couple of references to Fuse books in Japanese in the archive,
> but nothing specific enough for my needs.
>
> Candice
>

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                     Jamii Corley   --- jamii@swcp.com





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:35:00 -0300 (ADT)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: Re: viking

On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Daniel J. Byrne & Candice Bradley wrote:
> vikings in his office.  I don't want a viking boat or a viking hat, but
> rather a viking person.   Complexity is not an issue.  Any advice?

Yes, two, in fact.

a) In Creative Origami, Kasahara has a viking warrior, assembled from two
pieces of paper.

b) Michel Roy has a Te^te de Gaulois, ie. the head of a Gaul. It could be
mistaken for a viking, I think. It is published in der falter 11, in
Pliages Nr. 1 and possibly somewhere else.

Yours, Sebastian                                        skirsch@t-online.de
                         /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 17:41:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: Re: Cockroach models

On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Sy Chen wrote:
>               Model         Creator                  Book
> Lo Scara Faggio 1 (roach)  Alfredo Giunta        Origami gli Insetti
> Lo Scara Faggio 2 (roach)  Alfredo Giunta        Origami gli Insetti

I could have counted on that. Thanks!

Yours, Sebastian                                        skirsch@t-online.de
                         /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 19:06:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Re: The Paper

I heard last week that Fall issue of The Paper was just very, very
late. In fact at the time I asked about it (Oct 17), the issue was
still at the printer.

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 19:28:19 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re: The scandal revealed

Nick,
At 07.25 25/10/1997 -0300, you wrote:
>
>If it's the Paul Jackson one, I know about it!!!

We don't...... please tell us !! <:-)

Roberto
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 19:38:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Re: which japanese model books . . . ?

Candice,

>  I speak no Japanese but am dying to try
> these out.  Are *any* of them good bets for a person who would
> only be able to fold from the diagrams?  I don't know what my skill
> level is, but I emjoy folding Montroll, Lang, Fuse and Brill models.

No Japanese required. All the books you list use the same
diagram symbols developed by Yoshizawa/Harbin/Randlett. I like to
think that origami diagrams are a universal language akin to musical
notation. Occasionally you might see a step that you have to puzzle
out, but I find these challenging. And of course, you can always
consult origami-l if you are stuck.

Actually I find more diagram puzzles in Brill's book than my
Japanese titles. If you can work through those diagrams then I doubt
you will have any problems.

And if you are folding Lang & Montroll & Brill then you can surely
consider yourself up to "complex" models. (Complex usually implying
fun things such as closed sinks, double-rabbit ears, and entertaining
steps where you collapse from precreased lines.)

>
> I saw a couple of references to Fuse books in Japanese in the archive,
> but nothing specific enough for my needs.

Every Fuse book I have ever seen is wonderful. I especially recommend
the hardback "Origami Gift Boxes." (Thanks to Valerie Vann's
recommendation!) A wealth of boxes in various styles. Well worth the
price.

OUSA gives additional details on some Fuse books at their web site by
the way:

http://www.origami-usa.org/

If you are a really big Lang/Montroll fan, you would  probably love
the Yoshino book too.

Hope this helps,

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:30:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Re: skill level?

> What the heck is skill level?

OK. I'm game. It's one of those lazy Saturdays here.

First of all, for a discussion of skill levels related to model
difficulty, I'd recommend J.C. Nolan's "Creating Origami." A
"must-have" book anyway.

For myself I like to think of skill level as a scale of zero to 10.
Zero is for all those people who shrug and think folding a waste of
time (yes, I am being catty here :->) and 10 being those who
understand the geometry of folding and generate models of their own.

Just for fun here are a few possible benchmarks, but it really
is more of a sliding scale.

0       uninterested non-folder
1       "Origami is for kids!"/paper airplanes
2       Inspired beginner
3
4       cranes!
5
6       Can follow complex diagram/still gets stuck
7       Wetfolding
8
9       Folds from memory/Reverse-engineers other's models
10      KNOWLEDGEABLE creator

Not really developed but perhaps this gives you an idea. (And before
anyone asks I'm lurking somewhere between 6 and 7. ) I would also say
that it typically doesn't take more than a year or two to progress up
to 6 but that perhaps it might take a lifetime to make it up to 9.
And only a small percentage of folders ever make it to 10.

Two thinks I would like to point out....

A folder can create their own models at any skill level.

Skill level doesn't take into consideration the sculptural/artistic
ability of the folder. A folder's ability to convey posture and
expression. Another scale?

Still pondering this, perhaps I'll have another opinion next week.

Just remembered I was boiling some water!

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com
