




Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 14:26:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: Re: NOSHI

The subject of Noshi is a very large and difficult one. There is quite a lot
of information from past ages but considered modern accounts and analyses are
hard to come by. There are often, however, brief snippets of information in
modern  encyclopaedias and collections of Japanese curiosities. I attempted a
short account of noshi many years ago (part of an article grandly titled
"Paperfolding in Japan"), but I don't seem to have been able to take the
subject much further since then.

As a preliminary, it is useful to understand the terms. "NOSHI", so-called
come under the category of folded wrappers or "TSUTSUMI" in Japanese. Formal
tsutsumi were used in a ceremonial way, as a form of etiquette for wrapping
gifts and especially gifts of flowers. Each kind of flower had its own kind
of wrapper, but the distinctions between them varied in very subtle ways.
Only a few relics of this old system of etiquette survive today, one of which
is the attachement of a "noshi" to a gift in Japan, much in the way that in
the West we would attach a gift tag.

In early Japan, it was considered that a gift of abalone meat signified good
fortune. The word for abalone in Japanese is "AWABI " and this is the common
Japanese name for large marine snails of the family Hakiotidae, of which ten
species of different sizes inhabit the Japanese seas. Archaeology shows that
abalone has been used in Japan since prehistoric times. Abalone or awabi is
still fished extensively for consumption as food. Today, the Japanese eat
abalone either boiled or raw, with a dip.

"Noshita awabi" means abalone stretched into a thin strip and then dried in
the sun and is the full, but probably now obsolete term. It became "noshi
awabi" or just "noshi" From ancient times, the stretched and dried strips of
 "noshita awabi" or "noshi"  were fastened to offerings to the gods. From
gifts to the gods, the custom became applied to gifts between people. The
origin of this custom is traced to the Buddhist injunction against eating
flesh at sad or inauspicious times. So attaching a strip of abalone signified
that it _was_ an auspicious or happy occasion.

The noshi awabi was wrapped in heavy white paper folded in a formalised
manner. (White paper was deeply revered by the Buddhists, especially as a
medium for writing the scriptures.) The wrapped parcel was then (like other
tstutsumi) tied with "mizuhiki", a special ceremonial sort of string made
from the mulberry tree. There was a particular code of colours and knots
which became associated with the etiquette of tsutsumi generally. The usual
colours for a noshi were red and white or red.

So it became the custom to attach what came to be known as a "Noshi" to gifts
between people. Because  noshi awabi is a trifle messy, artificial abalone
became substituted for the real thing. Nowadays, if a full-sized noshi is
given, a shaped  strip of yellow plastic-like paper or just a strip of
ordinary yellow paper is used for a formal noshi. Noshi proper are about
eight to ten  or more inches long, and resemble a narrow fan-shape. Smaller,
token versions have evolved which are soewhat simpler. They are common and
tiny noshi down to about an inch long can still be bought from shops. Their
attachment to gifts has become stereotyped and they are often reduced to just
the design of a noshi, printed on an envelope. The ultimate stage of this
degeneration is merely to print the character for "noshi" in hiragana script!
Except for very formal noshi, the mizuhiki has been reduced to a strip of
gold paper across the middle of the noshi, or it may even be merely printed
on to the noshi.

So prevalent have noshi in the strict sense of the word, symbolising noshi
awabi,  become that the term "noshi" has come to be loosely applied to other
wrappers, especially the formal wrappers for flowers seen in such books as
Kayaragusa (incorrectly known because of an error as "Kan no mado"). These
wrappers have the same sort of fan-shape as a noshi, so it is understandable
how this has happened, despite the fact that, strictly speaking, the word
"noshi" is inappropriate for anything other than dried abalone. The term
"noshi tsutsumi" is sometimes seen.

The term "Noshi" has also come to be applied not only to the formal
fan-shaped wrappers, but as a generic term to wrappers of other shapes and
decorative envelopes for gifts in general, but I believe that this is a
western tendency and the Japanese would still use the word "tsutsumi" or
other terms more appropriate for envelopes. The Japanese tend to translate
the word "tsutsumi" into English as "wrappers".

BETR0THAL  GIFTS are another facet of the subject of Japanese wrappers. They
are like symbolic wedding gifts wrapped up in the manner of formal tsutsumi.
A full- sized Noshi in the strict sense of the word may itself  be part of
the collection Where appropriate, another sort of gift, perhaps money, will
be wrapped in a rectangular wrapper, like a flat envelope.  There does not
appear to be a rigidly specified  list of items. One example would be
chopsticks or perhaps a box of chopsticks. But the actual gift is often now
omitted and the symbolic wrapping itself has become all important.. The
wrappers are a very elaborate version of ordinary "tstutsumi" and may be
purchased ready-made  in some specialist shops in Japan. When I was in Kyoto,
I saw a whole variety of types. Some, I thought were overdone and,
surprisingly, for anything from Japan, rather tasteless. Some even looked
like flamboyant Christmas tinsel decorations.

Before exchanging the betrothal gifts, the families of the bride and
bridegroom agree on whether to exchange sets of five, seven or nine tsutsumi.
(Always an odd number, for even numbers are not considered to be fortunate.)
Over the years I have made a small collection of these betrothal gifts, but
there is still so much that I do not understand about them. I shall welcome
corrections to this account. it is very sad tho think that this tradition is
slowly dying out.

Weddings are very popular in Japan, perhaps even more so than in the West. As
in the West, books and magazines about weddings are very popular and can be
found on the news stands. Sometimes these magazine-like books contain a
section about betrothal tsutsumi. Before I went to Japan, I saw one owned by
Paulo Mulatinho. I have tried to obtain a copy, but have not managed to do so
and it was nowhere to be seen when I got to Japan. Presumably it was only a
passing magazine-like publication.

So far as I know, the only book to deal specifically with Noshi in English is
the one by Honda that has previously been mentioned:

Isao Honda:   Noshi:  Classic Origami in Japan
Japan Publications Company, Rutland, Vermont,   A5 Paperback, 1964.

This book can only be obtained, if at all, second-hand. I do not think that
it was a very prolific publication, so it is probably very rare. It deals
with much of the subject of Japanese wrappers and envelopes generally. I have
always found it a confusing book as Honda's definitions are not always clear
and he tends to run one subject runs into another without making the
distinctions clear. He includes informal wrappers, "Goma shio" wrappers
(wrappers for small symbolic "return gifts"), tato (paper purses) and a
wrapper depicting the Horaizan or sacred mountain which was a recent subject
for enquiry in Origami-L. He doesn't cover the elaborate tsutsumi used for
symbolic betrothal gifts, but pads his material out with such things as
traditional paper cranes and water lilies.

There are several books on Japanese wrappers in Japanese. The first, by
Yoshihide Momotani has an introduction, index and subject headings in
English:

Yoshihide Momotani: "Wrapping Origami" (Japanese language).
Seibundo Shinko sha,  A5 Paperback, 1993.

This book covers a wide range of wrappers, formal and informal with clear
diagrams. It also has mecho and ocho butterflies. An interesting little book,
probably still in print.

The leading Japanese student of Tsustsumi is Makio Araki. He gave a talk at
the Second International Meeting of Scientific origami at Otsu in Japan in
November, 1994 and also had on display a wide collection of small-sizes
reproductions  of many different tstutsumi. The following is his scholarly
work on the subject:

Makio Araki:  Nippon No Origami Shu.   ("Japanese Origami")

Published by Tankou sha 1995.  A4 sized hardback. No ISBN.

It is probably still in print. I bought my copy at Kinokinuja Bookstore in
New York.

Another more popular book by the same author is:

Makio Araki:  Oru Tsutsu Mu.

Published by Tak Ko sha.    B5 sized hardback. Third edition, 1995
 ISBN    4 - 473 - 01134 - 8.

This is somewhat smaller than A4 and has a more "popular" approach than the
last. It is very well illustrated with many beautiful coloured photographs
and covers the whole range of formal and informal tsutsumi, including
betrothal tsutsumi. By far the best general book on the subject and worth
finding even if you don't read Japanese.

Eiji Nakamura;   Atarashii Girei Origami. ( "New Formal Origami".)

Published by Japan Publications, 197f. A4 paperback. No ISBN.

This book is by an author who is better known for his books on paper
aeroplanes. He folds his wrappers from A4 paper. Whether or not this is
historically as legitimate as folding the wrappers from square paper, I do
not know. Formal and semi-formal tsutsumi.

Books on formal tsutsumi have been published for many years in Japan. I was
fortunate to be given a photocopy of such a book some twenty years ago. It is
"Hoketsu No Ki " by Ise Teijo in two volumes, the first containing tsutsumi
and the second, mizuhiki knots. I have read that it was the first book on
paperfolding in Japanese, but this is certainly not true, unless perhaps, the
1865 edition was merely a reprint of something much earlier. It is mainly
text, with illustrations of completed tsutsumi and knots and does not contain
the clear instructions for folding or tying that a paperfolder of today would
expect.

The subject of noshi is one of those facets of origami which never cease to
delight. There cannot be many pastimes which are so unexpectedly rich in so
many aspects not only of human diversity but also of artistic and scientific
interest as that of paperfolding.

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.
Dlister891@AOL.com





Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 14:36:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Cost Plus Xmas paper

Cost Plus in Fresno has just put out their Christmas paper. (Good
grief. It isn't even Halloween yet!) So if you live near one of these
stores in the U.S., you might find it worthwhile to visit soon.

I stocked up on their colored kraft paper: red, green, burgandy, and
gold. Great for Fuse boxes. Nice earthy colors and the typical ribbed
brown on the pack. Medium weight. Made in Italy but no manufacturer
name is given.

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 14:50:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Summaries!

> Wayne Fluharty wrote:
> >
> > Unless anyone has any objections, here is what I propose...
> >
> > I signed up today (10/6) for a "free" home page at geocities. Give me a
> > little time to get the site up and running and I will be more than happy
> > to TRY to host and maintain a site of origami-l summaries. I DO NOT
> > intend to write all of the summaries myself! Here's what I hope to have
> > up and runnin' shortly:

Why not put it on origami.net?

          Joseph Wu           It's your privilege as an artist to inflict
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   the pain of creativity on yourself. We can
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami you how YOU paint. There's More Than One Way
                              To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
                                          --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 15:01:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Re: Noshi

> I have a small book, "Noshi, Classic Origami in Japan" by Isao Honda,

There is also a diagram and historical information in Honda's "World
of Origami," a version of which is still in print.

According to Honda the noshi goes back to the 12th century. He writes
that "the word noshi is "an abbreviation for 'noshi-awabi,' a thin
strip of dried abalone attached in the middle of the paper fold. The
use of abalone on noshi for gifts dates back to the twelfth century,
though its significance is no longer known."

Might be more info in some of the books about Japanese washi. Perhaps
"The Art of Japanese Paper" by the Buissons might be a good reference
for historical info? I don't have this book myself...yet.

> I have a Japanese paperback, copyright 1985 by K. Ekiguchi,
> published by Escargot Books, ISBN 4-534-01038-9, priced
> $8.50, that appears to be about gift wrappings.

This book is still in print, but is now printed by Kodansha/Japan
Publications.

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 15:02:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Helen Franzone <andhdb@ionet.net>
Subject: quilting tools

I found the ShortCut mat at my local WalMart in the crafts/quilting dept
for $16.99.  I bought it but did not find it any easier to cut squares with
it than with a template.  Fortunately I was able to return it--maybe
someone else would have better luck with it (someone with more
coordination!)    Helen





Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 16:38:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: Matthias Gutfeldt <Tanjit@bboxbbs.ch>
Subject: Re: Quilting Tools

About the Keepsake Quilting 800 number:
I gave you the wrong number *grumble*
The correct number is:
1-800-865-9458

The two last digits were the other way round...

Matthias





Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 17:41:57 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: paper about polygons (2)

David Dureisseix <David.Dureisseix@lmt.ens-cachan.fr> sez

>  I recently posted a message about a paper I wrote for folding
>largest regular pentagon from a square.

This was covered in a recent-ish copy of Brutish Origami.....

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 17:59:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@usaor.net>
Subject: Re: NOSHI

David Lister:
>
> The subject of Noshi is a very large and difficult one. There is quite a lot
> of information from past ages but considered modern accounts and analyses are
> hard to come by. There are often, however, brief snippets of information in
> modern  encyclopaedias and collections of Japanese curiosities. I attempted a
> short account of noshi many years ago (part of an article grandly titled
> "Paperfolding in Japan"), but I don't seem to have been able to take the
> subject much further since then.
>
> As a preliminary, it is useful to understand the terms. "NOSHI", so-called
> come under the category of folded wrappers or "TSUTSUMI" in Japanese. Formal
> ...

David. I must say that this topic really does not interest me at all.
None the less I still want to thank you for your MANY contributions to
this list. Thank you for the time you spend to pass on your thoughts and
insights to the rest of us. I really must compliment you, is there
anything about origami that you don't know?

BYE :) Jeff Kerwood  jkerwood@usaor.net





Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 00:35:40 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kenny1414@aol.com
Subject: Re: NOSHI

Thank you, David Lister, Dlister891@AOL.com, for the details on Noshi.
Permit me to offer two spelling/typing corrections, lest someone be misled.

> The word for abalone in Japanese is "AWABI " and this is the common
>  Japanese name for large marine snails of the family Hakiotidae

I'm pretty sure the name is Haliotidae with an L, not a K, from Haliotis.

> Kinokinuja Bookstore in New York.

I think that's Kinokuniya.

Aloha,

Kenneth Kawamura    kenny1414@aol.com





Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 15:03:44 -0300 (ADT)
From: RPlsmn@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: poppers

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Date: 97-10-09 13:56:18 EDT

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from root@localhost

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:56:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: RPlsmn@aol.com
Subject: poppers

The poppers were a big hit at the office. Well, my union guy wanted to show
his kids ... One guy said "what's that? a farter?"[del]  He said he didn't
remember how to make a       ... flatulator ... before saying' "that's a
waste of paper". This fascinates me. ... well ... It occurs to me if one can
construct an origami flatulator, it might be possible to fine tune the pitch,
and assemble a really funky wind organ like the one Grumpy played in "Snow
White".  Can anybody recall how to fold a flatulator?
 ...rgr plsmn... trying to interest the world in a little good ol' American
Origami know how





Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 15:10:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: RPlsmn@aol.com
Subject: poppers

In a message dated 97-10-09 13:56:18 EDT, you write:

>
>The poppers were a big hit at the office. Well, my union guy wanted to show
>his kids ... One guy said "what's that? a farter?"[del]  He said he didn't
>remember how to make a       ... flatulator ... before saying' "that's a
>waste of paper". This fascinates me. ... well ... It occurs to me if one can
>construct an origami flatulator, it might be possible to fine tune the
pitch,
>and assemble a really funky wind organ like the one Grumpy played in "Snow
>White".  Can anybody recall how to fold a flatulator?
> ...rgr plsmn... trying to interest the world in a little good ol' American
>Origami know how





Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 00:50:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: Clarence Deacons <deke@northnet.org>
Subject: Re: Summaries

On 07-Oct-97, Janell Jarman spake thus:

JJ >Wayne Fluharty wrote:
JJ >>
JJ >> A post to the origami-l list once a month of the index of summaries on
JJ >> the site.
JJ >>

JJ >Too complicated...I like the idea of posting summaries directly to the
JJ >list.  I also agree that this will remind others to summarize replies to
JJ >their own questions.

I disagree. Posting the summaries to the list itself would be redundant... We
might
as well have a moderator who 'digests' once every two weeks (that would be an
answer to the summaries debate) as repost what everyone has read 8/ The best
place for
the summaries would be the origami ftp site (where only those persons wanting
summaries
would have to deal w/ downloading them)
I also believe the msgs should just be concatenated instead of filtered
through one
persons idea of relevance to a topic...It's all good 8)

BTW lets NOT summarize this particular thread 8)

     Clarence Deacons
     Deke@northnet.org





Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 02:33:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mike & Janet Hamilton <Mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Ousa Newsletter

Has anyone received the Fall edition of the OUSA newsletter  ("The
Paper") yet?  I thought it was supposed to be out in September.

Janet Hamilton

--
mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj/





Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 07:51:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@usaor.net>
Subject: Re: Summaries - Conclusion?

We seem to have a problem here. Lots of ideas and no way to make a
decision. I started this conversation but don't have the technical
knowledge to make the call. Anybody who has been following this thread
and understands the options want to take the ball on this? I don't know
any other way than if you fully understand all the options that have
been proposed and have a strong opinion then be the first to say "OK
here's what were try" and that's what we'll try. If no one steps forward
then I suppose this will fall to each person doing what ever they want
(surely not a good solution).

BYE :) Jeff Kerwood
jkerwood@usaor.net





Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:57:13 -0300 (ADT)
From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@fantasyfarm.com>
Subject: Re: Summaries - Conclusion?

On 10 Oct 97 at 7:51, Jeff Kerwood wrote:

> We seem to have a problem here. Lots of ideas and no way to make a
> decision.

Indeed --- this whole concept involves some people telling other
people what they have to do, and raises more questions than answers.
What if someone doesn't like the 'decision'?  I think the answer is
that they'll just ignore it and either do whatever they please or do
nothing.  So not only is there no way to certify a decision, but no
to enforce it, which makes a bit of a mockery of the
deliberation/decisionmaking process.

IMO, unless you can find a corps of volunteers to do the summaries
the whole concept is doomed.  And if you CAN find such a corps, then
the decisionmaking process is moot, since the answer will be
"whatever the volunteers want to do is fine with the rest of us" and
we need not be concerned about further deliberations.

  /Bernie\
--
Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
mailto:bernie@fantasyfarm.com     Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--





Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:43:33 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@sci.fi>
Subject: Re: paper about polygons (2)

On 08-Oct-97, Nick Robinson (nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>David Dureisseix <David.Dureisseix@lmt.ens-cachan.fr> sez

>>  I recently posted a message about a paper I wrote for folding
>>largest regular pentagon from a square.

>This was covered in a recent-ish copy of Brutish Origami.....

I assume it also showed brute force method :)

--
Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

They say I'm negative and indifferent, but I refuse to care.





Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 12:23:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: New address in London

In a recent trip to London, I have discovered another shop selling origami
books, in addition to books on puzzles, mathematical brain teasers, word
games, conjuring, plus a large selection of mechanical puzzles, magic cards etc.

VILLAGE GAMES - CAMDEN LOCK - tel & fax +44 171 4850653 (Business days Wed
to Sat)

Camden Lock is a well known shopping area just off Camden Town tube station.
The shop is in a corner of the little square where the open-air market is
held on Sat - Sun (walk left along the canal).

Roberto

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 12:24:44 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re: NOSHI

Kenny,

At 08.38 8/10/1997 -0300, you wrote:

>I checked my book collection and found a couple of references.

>I have a small book, "Noshi, Classic Origami in Japan" by Isao Honda,

>I have a Japanese paperback, copyright 1985 by K. Ekiguchi,

I can add a third reference. It's an A4-sized book by Eiji Nakamura, titled:
"Atarashii girei origami: furuki o tazunete atarashiki o shiru" (New
property origami: discoverintg a new thing by seeing an old thing), Nichibo
Shuppan Sha (= Japan Publications), 1974.

It's in Japanese, and deals with "formal and ceremonial origami", including
the Noshi, chopstick wrappers, kimono, peacock, letterfolds etc. Like other
works by this author (e. g. Flying origami), this is centered on the use of
A4 paper as an alternative to the classical square. I have no idea if an
English translation has ever been published.

Roberto

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 13:06:54 -0300 (ADT)
From: RPlsmn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Summaries

In a message dated 97-10-10 10:42:29 EDT, you write:

>should just be concatenated   <------?????

                        roger





Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 13:32:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Summaries - Conclusion?

> We seem to have a problem here. Lots of ideas and no way to make a
> decision. I started this conversation but don't have the technical
> knowledge to make the call. Anybody who has been following this thread
> and understands the options want to take the ball on this? I don't know
> any other way than if you fully understand all the options that have
> been proposed and have a strong opinion then be the first to say "OK
> here's what were try" and that's what we'll try. If no one steps forward
> then I suppose this will fall to each person doing what ever they want
> (surely not a good solution).

I will step forward and try to be as diplomatic as possible. When I
first started reading this thread the thought that I am back in
school or something came to my mind. This is a listserv where
individuals post, respond to messages, and ask questions. There
are many interesting discussions. But the gist I got out of this
thread was not that making summaries was a good idea, but rather
let's make it an imposition on the poster of the original message to
compose a summary. I for one would not generally have the time to
abide by such a rule.

---
ackerman@dorsai.org
sheldon_ackerman@fc1.nycenet.edu
http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman





Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:52:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Herman van Goubergen at York

> THE  BOS  CONVENTION  AT  YORK,  SEPTEMBER,  1997.
>
> Not an official guest, but very welcome was Hermann van Goubergen of Belgium,
> who still puts out just one model each year. All his models are, however,
> outstanding. His latest model is a sitting cat.

Herman also taught a new model - a skull. A very unique skull, in that it
has to be viewed with the aid of mirror! It's very hard to describe, it is
a unique creation. Hermann is wondering how he will ever find a way to
diagram it!

Also very notable was a clown's face, taught by Rick Beech. Rick had learnt
this model from the creator in Japan, while attending the Tanteidan
convention. I'm sorry, I can't recall the name of the creator.

Richard K
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 15:29:40 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Herman van Goubergen at York

>> THE  BOS  CONVENTION  AT  YORK,  SEPTEMBER,  1997.
>Also very notable was a clown's face, taught by Rick Beech. Rick had learnt
>this model from the creator in Japan, while attending the Tanteidan
>convention. I'm sorry, I can't recall the name of the creator.

The clown face is a mask of Pierrot and was designed by KOMATSU Hideo. You
can see his tiger on my web page.

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:09:02 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Nancy B. McNitt" <nbm@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Ousa Newsletter

>Has anyone received the Fall edition of the OUSA newsletter  ("The
>Paper") yet?  I thought it was supposed to be out in September.

I have not received mine, but then I always seem to receive mine late.
Gelnn McNitt





Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:10:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Nancy B. McNitt" <nbm@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: New address in London

The Camden Lock area is a great place too poke for antiques, coins, etc. We
spent a delightful day tjere last year. I am sorry that I did not see the
bookstore.
Glenn McNitt
At 12:23 PM 10/10/97 -0300, you wrote:
>In a recent trip to London, I have discovered another shop selling origami
>books, in addition to books on puzzles, mathematical brain teasers, word
>games, conjuring, plus a large selection of mechanical puzzles, magic cards
etc.
>
>VILLAGE GAMES - CAMDEN LOCK - tel & fax +44 171 4850653 (Business days Wed
>to Sat)
>
>Camden Lock is a well known shopping area just off Camden Town tube station.
>The shop is in a corner of the little square where the open-air market is
>held on Sat - Sun (walk left along the canal).
>
>Roberto
>
>
>         _\|/_
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>=====-oOO-(_)-OOo-========+
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>Via Palestro 11           |  Please DON'T quote my full
>51100 PISTOIA             |  message in reply... I KNOW
>ITALY                     |  what I have written ! :-)
>tel & fax (+)39-573-20436 |
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:24:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: Maldon7929@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Summaries - Conclusion?

>Indeed --- this whole concept involves some people telling other
>people what they have to do, and raises more questions than answers.

True.  This has been my impression of the entire thread.  Reality is adults
will do what they please regardless of any rules they are given.

>I think the answer is that they'll just ignore it and either do whatever
they please or >do nothing.

Exactly.

What we really need is for some one to come forward and take over  Alex
Bateman's  search engine so people can glean their own summaries.  (
Something I would do if I wasn't busy moving.  Maybe in January.)

My main objection to all this is the intent to include personal responce to
postings.  When I recieve private e-mail it will remain confidential and
never be posted to the list.  It doesn't matter what the content is, or who
wrote it.

Maldon Wilson





Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:29:12 -0300 (ADT)
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Summaries!

Hi,

I haven't been following the summaries debate in detail, so perhaps
I shouldn't be jumping in.  However, I just thought I'd say that I
used to belong to another mailing list  where summaries were very
common and very useful.  The 'netiquette' followed went something
like this :

1) A message would appear with a question, specifying that answers
   or comments should be sent to the sender personally, and that a
   summary would be sent to the list.  (Hence do not send things
   that you want to be private unless those things are well indicated
   as not to be included in the summary.)

2) Later the same sender would post a summary of those messages which
   (s)he found most useful.

The system is simple, nonredundant as far as the list is concerned,
and seemed to work.

                               ... Mark
--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimie.umontreal.ca           |





Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:53:12 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Archive Search Engine (Re: Re: Summaries - Conclusion?)

>What we really need is for some one to come forward and take over  Alex
>Bateman's  search engine so people can glean their own summaries.  (
>Something I would do if I wasn't busy moving.  Maybe in January.)

Okay. A working search engine is now up at
<http://www.origami.net/cgi-bin/jwu/search_archive.cgi>. It's not fully
debugged yet, but it works reasonably well. I'm still missing a few files,
too.

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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 23:29:29 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mike & Janet Hamilton <Mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Archive Search Engine (Re: Re: Summaries - Conclusion?)

Joseph Wu wrote:

> Okay. A working search engine is now up at
> <http://www.origami.net/cgi-bin/jwu/search_archive.cgi>. It's not fully
> debugged yet, but it works reasonably well. I'm still missing a few files,
> too.

It worked fine for the quick search I just did.  Will you be supporting a
model index search also?

Janet Hamilton

--
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 23:40:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: Re: Summaries

  Concerning this summaries thing, I just would like a show of hands of
  those people who do not have www access, ftp access, or anything for
  that matter except email.  I think we should make the summaries available
  by just plain email archives.  does anyone remember before www when email
  archives were popular?  :-)
  I am volunteering to place a copy of these summaries in my email archives
  for those who may find it easier to access via email.  (Gawd, I still am
  only working with email here... :-)
  I think accessability by more than one method (not just www) would be nice
  for newbies or those without browsers.

   to access my archives:
   send email to:
   archive@dazzle.sol.net
   with the body saying only:
   send index

 Please be patient, this is a UUCP connection.  It will take up to 12 hours
 for a reply.

--
 Douglas Zander                |
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       |
 Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA     |





Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 04:52:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: Re: Herman van Goubergen at York

On Fri, 10 Oct 1997, RA Kennedy wrote:
> Herman also taught a new model - a skull. A very unique skull, in that it
> has to be viewed with the aid of mirror! It's very hard to describe, it is
> a unique creation. Hermann is wondering how he will ever find a way to
> diagram it!

Now, with Herman's diagramming skills, it shouldn't be too hard -- even I
managed to make some rudimentary notes to help me recalling how he taught
it at Wuerzburg. I trust him completely in this matter. (After all, he
managed to diagram the cat as well, and that one uses much more unusual
folds than the skull.)

Yours, Sebastian                                          skirsch@t-online.de
                           /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 10:01:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Daniel J. Byrne & Candice Bradley" <djbyrne@pop.athenet.net>
Subject: networking thing

Dear Origami-l friends --

I was recently connected to an intriquing networking-phonebook site by
some academic friends with serious interests in social networks.  The
site is called sixdegrees, and it's based on the idea that everyone in
the world is connected to each other via a path of six degrees or less,
the idea of wireless telegraph inventor named Marconi and later
explained by playwrite John Guare.

The good thing about the site is that you can get "connected" to other
people who are linked to you in any way that you specify, as long as
those people have chosen to describe their occupations, skills and
hobbies in an online phonebook.  Nobody sells the info, and you can list
as much or as little as you wish.   Everyone gets a password.

Now I listed "origami" as one of my hobbies, and when I tried to network
there was nobody else on the list I was connected to who did origami.  I
felt sad.  Then it occurred to me that there are an awful lot of us on
origami-l who might enjoy linking and seeing how we're linked to other
origami folk.

Here's the address:

http://www.sixdegrees.com/

The deal is that you gotta 1) join 2) describe yourself as a person with
origami (or whatever) as a hobby, skill or occupation, and then 3) add
email addresses of folks you are connected to.  Those folks in turn have
join and list their own hobbies, skills and occupations, and add the
email addresses of folks in their network.

This is the sixdegrees "hobbies" category under which I found origami:

Home/Lifestyle/Crafts, Origami

I admit that this is a real web-geeky activity.  The folks who bothered
mathematical networks academics or the totally committed webfreaks.  I
don't think the rest could figure out the instructions in their
confusing initial "confirm" email.  Anyway, if you decide to visit the
site and join, feel free to list me as a "friend." Then you'll be linked
to at least one other origami person.  How's that?

Candice Bradley
email: djbyrne@athenet.net





Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:57:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: Cathy Palmer-Lister <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re: Summaries!

makes good sense to me.  BTW, is Origami Montreal still a go?  I've had no
news in ages, and the last e-mail I sent to Jean was not answered.  I
suppose he was at the cottage.
                                                                Cathy

At 06:30 PM 1997-10-10 -0300, you wrote:

>
>1) A message would appear with a question, specifying that answers
>   or comments should be sent to the sender personally, and that a
>   summary would be sent to the list.  (Hence do not send things
>   that you want to be private unless those things are well indicated
>   as not to be included in the summary.)
>
>2) Later the same sender would post a summary of those messages which
>   (s)he found most useful.
>
>The system is simple, nonredundant as far as the list is concerned,
>and seemed to work.
>
>                               ... Mark
>--
>*-------------------------------------------------------*
>|          Mark E. Casida                               |
>|          e-mail: casida@chimie.umontreal.ca           |
>*-------------------------------------------------------*
>

****************************
Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada





Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 16:35:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@tessellation.com>
Subject: Re: networking thing

>I was recently connected to an intriquing networking-phonebook site by
>some academic friends with serious interests in social networks.  The
>site is called sixdegrees, and it's based on the idea that everyone in
>the world is connected to each other via a path of six degrees or less,
>the idea of wireless telegraph inventor named Marconi and later
>explained by playwrite John Guare.

Fact: The idea of "six degrees of separation" was discovered by Stanley
Milgram, a social psychology professor at Yale.

Fact: The telegraph was invented by Nicola Tesla.

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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 18:19:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Daniel J. Byrne & Candice Bradley" <djbyrne@pop.athenet.net>
Subject: Re: networking thing

>Fact: The idea of "six degrees of separation" was discovered by Stanley
>Milgram, a social psychology professor at Yale.
>Fact: The telegraph was invented by Nicola Tesla.
This is fairly easy to dispute.  However, I think it is an argument that
should take place off list!

Candice





Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:01:44 -0300 (ADT)
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: Re: networking thing

Hello Everyone,
  I would just like to caution everyone about this sixdegrees thing.  I was
once asked to join it too, but I didn't.  I don't know if this is a scam
or not but I'd beware if I were you.  This seems like just too convenient
of an excuse to gather email addresses for spam databases.  Think about it.
Everyone with a valid email address joins up and gives the email addresses
of a bunch of other people.  Could there be a more convenient and easier
way to collect email addresses to sell and use for spamming purposes?
Now I know that they say they will not sell your address, of course we can
trust anyone who says that. <wink, wink>
If you wish to join, may I suggest that you do not give them a virgin
account name; use an address that already gets spammed.

P.S. I am personally 4 degrees away from the President of France on
     a first-name basis.  :-)

> Dear Origami-l friends --
>
> I was recently connected to an intriquing networking-phonebook site by
> some academic friends with serious interests in social networks.  The
> site is called sixdegrees, and it's based on the idea that everyone in
> the world is connected to each other via a path of six degrees or less,
> the idea of wireless telegraph inventor named Marconi and later
> explained by playwrite John Guare.
>
<deleted>
>
> Candice Bradley
> email: djbyrne@athenet.net
>

--
 Douglas Zander                |
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       |
 Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA     |





Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:25:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marcia Mau <maumoy@hotmail.com>
Subject: 1998 OUSA Convention

Has OUSA announced the dates for the 1998 convention?  It's usually the
last weekend in June.

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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 11:51:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re: networking thing

Robert,
At 16.36 11/10/1997 -0300, you wrote:

>Fact: The telegraph was invented by Nicola Tesla.

Fact of fact: No. Tesla invented and perfected the induction motor, or
alternating current motor. The telegraph was invented by S. Morse in 1837,
and the first telegraphic transmission line between Washington and Baltimore
was open on 5/24/1844 (much before Tesla was born.... ). The _wireless_
telegraph and radio communication was invented by Guglielmo Marconi, who
made the first transoceanic transmission in 1901.

===== End of off-topic (I hope) =======
Roberto
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:45:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: FoldingCA@webtv.net (Dorothy Engleman)
Subject: Japanese Translation Needed

Hello again,

As some of you may have read,  I'm
producing a television show about origami called "Folding California".

I would be most grateful if anyone is fluent in Japanese and could offer
me help translating some short letters that need to be sent to the
Origami Tanteidan and Gallery Origami House in Japan.

Dorothy Engleman

FoldingCA@webtv.net





Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:32:51 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: RE: Archive Search Engine (Re: Re: Summaries - Conclusion?)

>Joseph Wu wrote:
>
>> Okay. A working search engine is now up at
>> <http://www.origami.net/cgi-bin/jwu/search_archive.cgi>. It's not fully
>> debugged yet, but it works reasonably well. I'm still missing a few files,
>> too.
>
>It worked fine for the quick search I just did.  Will you be supporting a
>model index search also?

Yes. But I need to find out more from Alex about the file format and
stuff first.

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:58:02 -0300 (ADT)
From: Janell Jarman <jarman@digitalpla.net>
Subject: Re: Summaries - Conclusion?

Maldon7929@aol.com wrote:
>
> >Indeed --- this whole concept involves some people telling other
> >people what they have to do, and raises more questions than answers.
>
> True.  This has been my impression of the entire thread.  Reality is adults
> will do what they please regardless of any rules they are given.

Adults???  Tell that to my six children!

Janell





Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:02:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Harbin - Origami 2 and 3

I have recently been offered copies of the following books:

Robert Harbin "Origami 2" (aka New Adventures in Paper Folding?)
Robert Harbin "Origami 3"

I have both these books. If you are interested in one or both, please
contact me PRIVATELY at:

R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk

Regards,

Richard K





Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:43:02 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@usaor.net>
Subject: Re: Summaries - Conclusion?

Janell Jarman wrote:
>
> Maldon7929@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >Indeed --- this whole concept involves some people telling other
> > >people what they have to do, and raises more questions than answers.
> >
> > True.  This has been my impression of the entire thread.  Reality is adults
> > will do what they please regardless of any rules they are given.
>
> ...
>
> Janell

Yeah I guess this is true. But it makes me a little sad that we can't as
a group decide on something and all be good-natured (and sensible
enough, I think) to "go with the group" for the betterment of all in the
group. Surely (if you think summaries are a good thing) it is better to
do something as a group than to each do whatever we want - yes?  By not
agreeing to subjugate our own preference, to the judgement of the group,
and coalesce into a unified effort, aren't we each losing out by letting
something good (summaries) fail to materialize and provide its benefits?
(Note: this is meant to be rhetorical).

Just my 2/5ths nickels worth.

BYE :) Jeff Kerwood
jkerwood@usaor.net





Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:18:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Summaries - Conclusion?

>
> Yeah I guess this is true. But it makes me a little sad that we can't as
> a group decide on something and all be good-natured (and sensible
> enough, I think) to "go with the group" for the betterment of all in the
> group. Surely (if you think summaries are a good thing) it is better to
> do something as a group than to each do whatever we want - yes?  By not
> agreeing to subjugate our own preference, to the judgement of the group,
> and coalesce into a unified effort, aren't we each losing out by letting
> something good (summaries) fail to materialize and provide its benefits?
> (Note: this is meant to be rhetorical).
>
> Just my 2/5ths nickels worth.
>
>
> BYE :) Jeff Kerwood
> jkerwood@usaor.net
>
How many individuals comprise this group who agree to "subjugate" their own
preferences? How many individuals comprise this listserv?
I suggest you start making summaries for the "betterment" of all of us and
when we see how good it is perhaps we will all find the time to do the same.

Now to be a bit more diplomatic...
There is certainly nothing wrong with the idea of summaries, but there is
certainly something wrong with making it sound compulsory.

Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.org
sheldon_ackerman@fc1.nycenet.edu





Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:03:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@usaor.net>
Subject: Re: Summaries - Conclusion?

Sheldon Ackerman wrote:
>
> >
> > Yeah I guess this is true. But it makes me a little sad that we can't as
> > a group decide on something and all be good-natured (and sensible
> > enough, I think) to "go with the group" for the betterment of all in the
> > group. Surely (if you think summaries are a good thing) it is better to
> > do something as a group than to each do whatever we want - yes?  By not
> > agreeing to subjugate our own preference, to the judgement of the group,
> > and coalesce into a unified effort, aren't we each losing out by letting
> > something good (summaries) fail to materialize and provide its benefits?
> > (Note: this is meant to be rhetorical).
> >
> > Just my 2/5ths nickels worth.
> >
> >
> > BYE :) Jeff Kerwood
> > jkerwood@usaor.net

=======

> I suggest you start making summaries for the "betterment" of all of us and
> when we see how good it is perhaps we will all find the time to do the same.

That's a good idea but I don't initiate enough valuable threads to make
my point, but when I do I will. And, I don't know that I know the
technically best way to implement summaries (I was looking for others to
help with that part).

=======

> There is certainly nothing wrong with the idea of summaries, but there is
> certainly something wrong with making it sound compulsory.

Well, compulsory - NO. Good etiquette or in consideration of the group
or just a thoughtful thing to do, that is what I had in mind. We all
have come to give credit to whoever designed the models we display or
say thank you when someone has helped us with something, I thought
summaries could be the same. As the initiator of the thread we have all
the information, it would just be a kindness to prepare a summary for
the benefit of others.

========

BYE :) Jeff (still smilin') Kerwood
jkerwood@usaor.net





Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 23:17:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: Simon Burchill <Simon.Burchill@jcu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Summaries

While were at it (establishing rules), let's ban the use of smilies

Simon.





Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 07:16:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@usaor.net>
Subject: Re: Summaries

Simon Burchill wrote:
>
> While were at it (establishing rules), let's ban the use of smilies
>
> Simon.
>
> :(

I was thinking that might be too trite - OK I'll stop (well I'll try to
stop anyway.

BYE         Jeff Kerwood
jkerwood@usaor.net





Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:59:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: Matthias Gutfeldt <Tanjit@bboxbbs.ch>
Subject: SUMMARY: Summary thread

This thread is easily summarised: Nobody agrees on
anything, but everybody is hurt if anybody doesn't
agree with somebody.

Let's drop the whole thread. Whoever wants to do a
summary, will do so even if others think it is unnecessary.

I for one would have loved being able to read a summary
about porcelain paper sources instead of having to wade through
dozens of messages to collect the info.

Let us summary fanatics do what we need to do. You others,
feel free to ignore SUMMARY messages if they annoy you so much.

Matthias

P.S.: Did you notice? As requested, I didn't use any smilies ;-).





Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:25:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: MSPARKS@pinkertons.com (MATTHEW SPARKS 05-025)
Subject: Origami sighting.

Would some one please let me know when the summary of the sumaries thread   is
     posted
so I can ignore that too. (not inserting a smiley face here to be
     politically correct)

Speaking of origami, I was in new york the other day and stuck my head   into
     the museum
of Natural history. but I couldn't remeber where the "secret door" was.

Origami sighting: I bought a map of new york called NEW York unfolds. it   is a
     3 section
pamphlet with maps that unfold auto-magically when you open it and fold   up
     automagically
 when you close it , very neat!!!
The quote on the cover is " A map that's more than a map... holds both   global
     patents
and a copyright as kinetic sculpture."

Published by VanDam (800) unfolds; there web page is at www.vandam.com

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Senior Technical Support Specialist             Fax  (818) 380-8677
Pinkerton Security & Investigation Services
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:39:10 -0300 (ADT)
From: Maggie Rioux <mrioux@Cornelia.whoi.edu>
Subject: Origami sighting - in my computer

I just upgraded my Microsoft Office to Office 97. They've
added a little feature called Office Assistant - sort of
an animated cartoon help box that sits in the corner of
the screen (yes, you can get rid of it!). Anyway, you
can choose the character you want in the box and one of
them is a cat made out of pieces of paper. If you click
on the animate button the cat (named Scribble) comes
apart and folds itself into various origami models. Kind
of cute.
 Maggie Rioux
 Information Systems Librarian
 MBL/WHOI Library
 Woods Hole, MA
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  /     \
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     I   /O,O   |
     I /_____   |      /|/|
    J|/^ ^ ^ \  |    /00  |    _//|
     |^ ^ ^ ^ |W|   |/^^\ |   /oo |
      \m___m__|_|    \m_m_|   \mm_|





Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:00:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Summary thread

> Let us summary fanatics do what we need to do. You others,
> feel free to ignore SUMMARY messages if they annoy you so much.
>
I love reading summary messages! It is the writing of the summary that takes
up the time.

---
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.org
sheldon_ackerman@fc1.nycenet.edu





Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:38:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Remaindered books to watch for...

I've noticed that the Harper Perennial edition of Harbin's "The Art of
Paperfolding" (Origami 1) is getting remaindered. And I've seen
remaindered "Origami, Plain and Simple" and "Wings and Things."

And right now www.bookexpress.com is selling the Lang/Weiss book
"Origami Zoo" for just $5.99. (As well as the classic "The Great
International Paper Airplane Book.")

So watch for these on the remainder shelves and consider getting them
now if you don't have them. Could mean they are going out of print.

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:57:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: jaelle <jaelle1@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Origami sighting - in my computer

Maggie Rioux wrote:

> I just upgraded my Microsoft Office to Office
> 97. They've
> added a little feature called Office Assistant -
> sort of
> an animated cartoon help box that sits in the
> corner of
> the screen (yes, you can get rid of it!).
> Anyway, you
> can choose the character you want in the box and
> one of
> them is a cat made out of pieces of paper. If
> you click
> on the animate button the cat (named Scribble)
> comes
> apart and folds itself into various origami
> models. Kind
> of cute.
>

Actually the cat is several different kinds of
paper cut into peices and it takes itself apart
and glues itself back together. I thought it was
folding also when I first got it then noticed
there were to many kinds of paper and shapes  with
all different patterns and when it takes itself
apart the pieces are still the same shapes when
the cat is all together. i.e. each leg is still a
leg when seperate. But your right hon it IS cute.
It meows and everything.

Sorry to disappoint .... but did not want anyone
going to get office 97 or word 97 just for the
folding office assistant ... have known people to
do this type of silly thing ( me included ... once
bought a ver expensive shirt just because was told
it had dragons on it ... sight unseen ... and it
turned out to be Barney the stupid purple
dinosaur.) giggle.

jaelle





Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:47:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: Dennis Brannon <brannon@jamin.enet.dec.com>
Subject: RE: Origami sighting - in my computer

 Maggie Rioux posted:
>I just upgraded my Microsoft Office to Office 97. They've
>added a little feature called Office Assistant - sort of
>an animated cartoon help box that sits in the corner of
>the screen (yes, you can get rid of it!). Anyway, you
>can choose the character you want in the box and one of
>them is a cat made out of pieces of paper. If you click
>on the animate button the cat (named Scribble) comes
>apart and folds itself into various origami models. Kind
>of cute.
Thanks for posting this.  I've been using Office 97 with
the paper cat assistant for a while and hadn't seen the
origami animation.  Each click of the animate button
(right-mouse click on the assistant to get it) produces
a random animation.  After about 20 clicks, I finally saw
the origami sighting.  The paper cat breaks up into
3 triangles of ruled paper and folds into a swan, unfolds
and folds into an elephant, unfolds and folds into a frog,
and finally unfolds and reassembles the paper cat.

Dennis Brannon
dennis.brannon@digital.com
Ayer, MA





Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 20:57:27 -0300 (ADT)
From: jaelle <jaelle1@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Origami sighting - in my computer

Dennis Brannon wrote:

>  Maggie Rioux posted:
> >I just upgraded my Microsoft Office to Office
> 97. They've
> >added a little feature called Office Assistant
> - sort of
> >an animated cartoon help box that sits in the
> corner of
> >the screen (yes, you can get rid of it!).
> Anyway, you
> >can choose the character you want in the box
> and one of
> >them is a cat made out of pieces of paper. If
> you click
> >on the animate button the cat (named Scribble)
> comes
> >apart and folds itself into various origami
> models. Kind
> >of cute.
> Thanks for posting this.  I've been using Office
> 97 with
> the paper cat assistant for a while and hadn't
> seen the
> origami animation.  Each click of the animate
> button
> (right-mouse click on the assistant to get it)
> produces
> a random animation.  After about 20 clicks, I
> finally saw
> the origami sighting.  The paper cat breaks up
> into
> 3 triangles of ruled paper and folds into a
> swan, unfolds
> and folds into an elephant, unfolds and folds
> into a frog,
> and finally unfolds and reassembles the paper
> cat.
>
> Dennis Brannon
> dennis.brannon@digital.com
> Ayer, MA

I send my appologies to Maggie!!! The cat is a
piece meal cut up but the other three are
foldings!!! Thank you for Dennis. Had this thing a
year and never saw those!!!!

Again Maggie ... my appologies!
jaelle
