




Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 09:36:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Matthias Gutfeldt <Tanjit@bboxbbs.ch>
Subject: Re: Another home for origami on the net

Michel Bartolone wrote:
> I am happy to announce that the vote to form rec.arts.origami has passed!
Great :-). I hope it takes a while before the spammers find this group!
Will alt.arts.origami be closed? I'd suggest leaving it open. And
alt.binaries.pictures.origami too.

> Note: I do not want this to be an "us vs. them" situation.
Both forums have their advantages and disadvantages, so I think
they'll coexist nicely :-).

Matthias, reconfiguring his newsreader again...





Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 09:48:02 -0300 (ADT)
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: "New" Kawasaki rose

>I'd read mention of the 'Kawasaki rose' and was intrigued w/ the responses it

I just looked at it, and it looks much harder than the one in OFTC.
Is it worth the extra work?  Other than locking better (I've read that
here) any opinions as to whether it's esthetically nicer?

Thanks.

-Joel
(joel@exc.com)





Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 10:56:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mike & Janet Hamilton <Mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re:

Clarence Deacons wrote:
> downloaded
> rose1.ps thru rose5.ps assuming they were instructions for an origami
> model...they may well be ...I'm
> incapable w/ my platform to read these files...

You can also find the rose at
http://www.the-village.com/origami/pdf/rose_new.pdf.

This is in Adobe Acrobat format, and may be easier for you to view than
postscript.  You will need the free Adobe Reader.

Janet Hamilton

--
mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj/





Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:20:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Volcano <volcano@arrakis.es>
Subject: Help for initiating with origami

I pretend that message to be the first, but it don't arrives, so I
resend it:

That's my first message for the origami group, and i hope that not be
the last.
I know the basis(the usual, planers -I don't consider origami- and very
simple folding -one sheet, no more than 40 folds-). Now I want to do
something more ambitious. That's the reason to write this message. Can
recomend some easy-to-intermediate figures? I don't have problem with
the paper -just I recently found a paper store-
Thank you for reading that.

Abraham Limpo Martinez        (VOLCANO)
volcano@arrakis.es                Barcelona(Spain)





Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 12:13:51 -0300 (ADT)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Another home for origami on the net

>I am happy to announce that the vote to form rec.arts.origami has passed!
>It may take several weeks to get the control message posted, and for servers
>to add this newsgroup. The process will be enhanced by people requesting that
>their ISP carries the newsgroup once the control message has been issued.
>I will make sure that I will notify the list again when the control message
>has been sent.

        As happy as I am to hear this news, I am also dismayed because, for
reasons completely inexplicable to me, my school's Internet connection
doesn't allow me access to newsgroups.  8-C  However, the creation of this
new newsgroup beggars a question I've been contemplating for some time...

        How many of you would be interested in a place on the Internet for
_live_ origami chats and discussions?  I am referring here to IRC --
Internet Relay Chat.  I've been in many IRC chat rooms previously, and
usually they're pretty fun, but only a few of them are subject-specific,
like an origami one would be.  Such a room might be nice where we could all
get together live and at the same time to discuss various issues -- come to
think of it, we could even hold scheduled conferences there, sort of like
the one held at the last OUSA meeting about creating techniques.  Although
there are few enough of us out there that I don't know that such a chat
room would be continuously occupied by a folder, it might be nice on
occasion to get live feedback from other folders, and just to chat and get
to know one another anyway.

        I know of a server for IRC chat rooms that would allow the free
creation of such a room (I need to investigate further for any hidden
caveats, but it looks good).  For those of you who don't know about IRC,
there are two main (and several less common) programs that handle IRC chat
rooms:  mIRC for Windows and IRCle for the Macintosh; both can be
downloaded from a variety of web sites.  The server I have in mind also has
a Java-enabled web site that allows people to join their chat rooms via the
WWW, although it's a bit slower and has many fewer options than a dedicated
IRC program; with these options, I don't think anyone would have access
problems.

        So anyway, I've been thinking about such a chat room for a while,
and I would be interested in the feedback of other list members!  If there
seems to be enough interest, I'll investigate the matter further.  So let's
hear it!

                _,_
           ____/_\,)                    ..  _
--____-===(  _\/                         \\/ \-----_---__
           /\  '                        ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  768-2701
Southern Methodist University
Box 750395                            jdharris@post.smu.edu
Dallas  TX  75275-0395                (Compuserve:  102354,2222)

"Science _does_ have all the answers -- we just don't have all
the science."
                        -- James Morrow





Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 14:46:06 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@spacestar.net>
Subject: Re: "New" Kawasaki rose

I have made Kawasaki's rose in OFTC and also the new one.

The new one is quite beautiful, intriguing to fold and worth the effort.

But there is a mistake in the diagram for step 24: the horizontal
mountain fold should be one grid line lower than it is shown, and the
vertical mountain fold should be one grid line to the right.

This error is documented in the Origami-L archive, but I thought it
worthwhile to mention again. It's horribly frustrating to fold for a long
time and not have the figure hold together at the end. It happened to me.

--Jane Rosemarin





Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 14:55:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Kawasaki Rose, again, still....

Well, I downloaded the instructions for the "internet-available"
version of Kawasaki's Rose, and I have a question:  the instructions
indicate that steps 13-16 are only done once.  Is that right?

-Joel
(joel@exc.com)





Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 19:37:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@spacestar.net>
Subject: Re: Kawasaki Rose, again, still....

Joel,

Oops; you are right . . . steps 13 through 16 of the new Kawasaki rose
should be done three times.

--Jane





Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:37:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@spacestar.net>
Subject: Re: Kawasaki Rose, again, still....

Oops, again! Steps 13 through 16 of the new Kawasaki rose should be done
a total of four times (per rose).





Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 00:26:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Kawasaki Rose, again, still....

>Oops, again! Steps 13 through 16 of the new Kawasaki rose should be done
>a total of four times (per rose).

Which makes dozens of times, because I still don't understand how to
lock the last petal in step 27.  I've done it twice, and ruined three
other models trying....





Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 04:20:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Allen Parry <parry@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Convention Memorabilia - Photos and Video

Janet,

You should see your video in the next couple of days.....I took it to the
mailbox today......enjoy.

Allen Parry
parry@eskimo.com





Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:54:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Thomas C. Hull" <tch@abyss.merrimack.edu>
Subject: Origami sighting in Boston Globe

Hiiiii!

This message is entirely self-serving, but in today's (Sunday, Sept. 14)
Boston Globe there's an article about me and the origami-math
stuff that I do.  It's in the New England section, and contains
a nice color photo of me sitting next to a 3 ft tall Neale/Simon
modular dodecahedron, a big hyperbolic paraboloid, and one of
my 810-unit Buckyball-type spheres.

The article doesn't butcher the math too much, although there
is the typical "Tom folds his models from a mathematical equation"
kind of statements, which is an easy misinterpretation of what
I do, I suppose.  But they somehow managed to find a fellow
mathematician who was willing to claim that I was "brilliant".
Not true!  Don't believe it for a minute!

But the srticle is worth checking out, if only for the neat photo.
It may be available on the Globe's web page. (www.boston.com, I think.)

Cherrio!

------ Tom "causing trouble" Hull





Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 12:32:15 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Michael J. Naughton" <mjnaught@crocker.com>
Subject: RE: Origami sighting in Boston Globe

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Yes, it is on the web:

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe/globehtml/257/Professor_plays_a_numbers_game_wi
     th.htm

but the web site doesn't include the picture. If at all possible, buy the paper
     - the sight of Tom
sitting next to a 3-foot dodecahedron is worth the price!

Mike "If you're not brilliant, why am I wearing sunglasses?" Naughton

Tom Hull wrote:

. . . in today's (Sunday, Sept. 14)
Boston Globe there's an article about me and the origami-math
stuff that I do.  It's in the New England section, and contains
a nice color photo of me sitting next to a 3 ft tall Neale/Simon
modular dodecahedron . . . .

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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 12:42:06 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mr & Mrs Owen <djowen@pcl.net>
Subject: Re: esheep.exe

Thanks.  In addition to being ethical it is nice to find more good
software.
Joyce  Owen

----------
> From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Subject: NO: esheep.exe
> Date: Thursday, September 11, 1997 10:20 PM
>
> I am posting this to the origami-L for two reasons:
> (1)intellectual property rights and ethics have been discussed
> here often, and (2) I regard the origami-L as my "internet
> community", where it it natural to discuss what is important
> to me.
>
> Some time ago I was emailed a copy of a wonderfully delightful
> screensaver program (actually more than a screen saver) called
> esheep.exe. Both the sender and I recognized that this was
> extremely ingenious and professional software and animation
> art - it is one of the best behaved Windows programs I've ever
> seen - and was unlikely to be freeware.
>
> The sender then managed to locate the source, verifying that
> it is not freeware, and both of us were able to purchase a
> legal copy of the program, feeling that the artistry of this
> program and the enjoyment we get from it was well worth the
> effort and the minor cost of going legitimate.
>
> In the last week, the passing about for "free" of this program
> on the Internet has exploded; as of now one third of the PC
> users I am in regular contact with have been emailed a copy of
> esheep.exe, and sent it on to other friends, etc.
>
> So for everyone's information (let your conscience be your
> guide):
>
> esheep.exe is not freeware.
>
> It is one of a family of animation based products by
> Village Center, Inc., a Japanese company. The little sheep is
> named POE, and was the star of a Japanese animated Fuji TV
> series. Other products include a card game collection, graphics
> collections (for making stickers, etc.), and a DayTimer calendar
> address book program.
>
> The programs have Japanese menus, etc., but are available for
> USA purchase "as is" - at a discount in fact - by
> mail/FAX order only. (The Daytimer program and other screen
> savers, one with Moose, are not currently listed; I've
> written asking about them.)
>
> The details of the programs and ordering
> information are at the following URL:
>
> http://www.villagecenter.co.jp/english/poe.html
>
> The program being passed around is the STRAY SHEEP Screen Mate
> for Windows 3.1/95, and is 2560 Yen plus shipping, and worth
> it. You can have a genuine legitimate copy in about a week.
>
> Valerie_Vann@compuserve.com





Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 14:02:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michael Montebello <florafauna@classic.msn.com>
Subject: (NO) RE: Hobbit going to Hawaii

Jan, Aimee,
 AT LAST!! We will be leaving on the 16th for Hawaii, My Mom and I will stay
over night in Honolulu and have all the next day with car to do "art" stuff my
mom is a Prof. Artist, water color. Then we will catch up with the guys and
daughter who went on to the Big Island were we will be staying at the The
Islands of Mauna Lani by the Mauna Lani complex on the Kohala coast.
I'II be looking for washi paper and books that I can not easily get at home.
We have the big book stores, Barns and exc.. but no foreign suppliers to speak
of.
I also like the washi box kits that make boxes and things out of washi and
card board.
Hope you get this, Jan I got your phone number and will give you a holler when
I get in!
Susan Dugan

----------
From:  origami-l@nstn.ca on behalf of Paul & Jan Fodor
Sent:  Tuesday, August 12, 1997 5:38 PM
To:  Multiple recipients of list
Subject:  Re: Hawaii

Michael Montebello wrote:
>
> I don't know if this got to the whole list so I'm redoing it. Sorry if you
get
> this twice! Thanks, Janet for your super list:) Any leads on used book
stores?
> does not have to be in English.
> Thanks,
>  Hobbit In South Carolina
> ----------
> Hi!
> The Hobbit and Co. (Husband, Kid, Mother, and Dad) are adventuring to
Hawaii,
> the middle of September. I'll of course be looking for paper, and books,
> including used books. Our plans not set. We will have a car and will be
> staying on the north shore of Oahu, we are planing to go to Hawaii to the
> Natl' Park. Any suggestions for O'stuff would be appreciated.

Hi Michael,
        Glad you wrote twice.  I didn't see the first letter.  Origami-l seems
to have been down for a couple of days; just back on today.  I assume
you're looking for origami books and paper.
Here's a list of stores but none of them have been consistent in keeping
a well stocked selection of origami books.
        BUNBUNDO (Japanese books as well as English but not the supplier of all
origami books it used to be) 655 Keeamoku St.  on the left side of the
street as you head toward "Ala Moana shoppping center" (largest shopping
center in Hawaii.  Look for Sam Sung Plaza and turn in to that alley.
        BORDERS- Honolulu- 1200 Ala Moana (located in Ward CENTER)
                Waipahu- 94-821 Lumiaina (located at Waikele Shopping
     center
closest to Northshore)
I haven't frequented any used bookstores so I can't recommend any to
you.

Paper store:
        MASAKO'S GIFTS & CRAFTS- 1259 S. Beretania (Best selection of  washi in
Hawaii, maybe US. Prices are also best I've seen in my  shopping in US.

        HAKUBUNDO- 100 N. Beretania (located in the Chinese Cultural   center.
Best selection and prices for ordinary origami paper.   They have some
washi but not as good as Masako's)
 You can try calling me once you get here but I'll also be on vacation
from Aug 24 to Sept. 15.  My phone #545-1068.
<http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder





Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 15:55:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Dennis Walker <d_and_m_walker@compuserve.com>
Subject: BOS Convention

Hello everyone,

        Like many on this list (I hope!) I am looking forward to the BOS
Convention thids Friday - Sunday (Sept 19th-21st). I am also hoping to
maybe put some faces to names. To this end I remember some sort of
origami-l I.D. being used at the OUSA Convention. Would anyone like to do
something similar for the BOS Convention?

                                Dennis.





Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 18:13:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: Penny Groom <penny@sector.demon.co.uk>
Subject: BOS Convention Origami-l   ID

In article <199709141451_MC2-2063-5F8C@compuserve.com>, Dennis Walker
<d_and_m_walker@compuserve.com> writes
>Hello everyone,
>
>        Like many on this list (I hope!) I am looking forward to the BOS
>Convention thids Friday - Sunday (Sept 19th-21st). I am also hoping to
>maybe put some faces to names. To this end I remember some sort of
>origami-l I.D. being used at the OUSA Convention. Would anyone like to do
>something similar for the BOS Convention?
>
>                                Dennis.
Good idea, Arthur Day sent me a sheet of stick on frogs, how about
coming and getting a frog from me and putting it on your name badge?

Yes I know origami-l and frogs have no connection but I've not got stick
on modems!

See lots of you there

Penny
-----------------------------------------
Peter Groom
peter@sector.demon.co.uk





Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 19:55:43 -0300 (ADT)
From: Arlene Anderson <aanderso@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us>
Subject: mailing origami

Does anyone have tips for mailing origami so that they don't crush? I know
to use a sturdy box  but how do you pack them inside? I've never seen them
on arrival so don't know how they fare.

Arlene Anderson                aanderso@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us





Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 20:40:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: acmm@iname.com (Tony McCready May)
Subject: Re: mailing origami

On Sun, 14 Sep 1997 19:55:43 -0300 (ADT), you wrote:

>Does anyone have tips for mailing origami so that they don't crush? I know
>to use a sturdy box  but how do you pack them inside? I've never seen them
>on arrival so don't know how they fare.
>
>Arlene Anderson                     aanderso@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us
>

This is my first post to the list even though I've been
reading for almost a year now.  I've mailed several models
to family and friends.  What I usually do is find a sturdy
box that's just about the right size and then fold mountains
of hexahedrons for packing material.  But if I'm in a rush
or just feeling lazy I've used some of those styrofoam
peanuts to fill the box so things don't get completely
squished.

Tony McCready May
acmm@iname.com
--------------------------------------
Folding away the frustrations of life.





Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 21:11:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: Re: mailing origami

>
> Does anyone have tips for mailing origami so that they don't crush? I know
> to use a sturdy box  but how do you pack them inside? I've never seen them
> on arrival so don't know how they fare.
>
> Arlene Anderson                  aanderso@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us
>
>
>

 I just place them in a sturdy but lightweight small box.  If they have room
 to move around in the box then they would have room to be pushed aside in
 case the box got one corner or a side crushed in.  I believe that placing
 packing materials in the box may only do worse because if the corner got
 crushed in then the peanuts would get pushed together and the peanuts would
 crush the origami.  Remember that peanuts are great for absorbing impacts
 and when the box gets partially crushed.  This is because the peanuts are
 crushed themselves between the box and the tv or vcr inside.  But when the
 contents are origami, the peanuts are actually *stronger* than the folded
 paper thus if the outer box gets partially crushed the peanuts get pushed
 over to one side but it is the origami that will obsorb the impact, not
 the peanuts.  Think of it this way, "You are protecting the peanuts with
 folded pieces of paper!"  Not vice-versa!  I believe if you wish to protect
 something from impacts and box crushes then you need something that is
 *weaker* than the contents you are trying to protect.  (Peanuts protect
 tvs and vcrs because the peanuts are weaker than the metal)  You may wish
 to try crumbled pieces of tissue paper (kleenix) packed in somewhat tight.
 Personally, I just allow the origami to freely move around inside the box;
 that way they can get thrown out of the way in case the box gets crushed or
 dented on one side.  Anyone else have ideas?

--
 Douglas Zander                |
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       |
 Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA     |





Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 22:16:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: mailing origami

At 07:55 PM 9/14/97 -0300, you wrote:

>Does anyone have tips for mailing origami so that they don't crush? I know
>to use a sturdy box  but how do you pack them inside? I've never seen them
>on arrival so don't know how they fare.

I have recently used bubble wrap, but I think a combination of paper towels
works as well (or perhaps better). If you are really worried, the trick is
to nest the boxes you are using. For instance, if you are mailing 3 models,
you could box each of the models seperatly. You could then pack each of the
three boxes into a larger box (using styrofoam would be appropriate here).
Nesting boxes dramaticaly improves the level of protection.

Marc





Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 22:35:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: Cathy Palmer-Lister <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re: BOS Convention

At 03:58 PM 1997-09-14 -0300, you wrote:
>Hello everyone,
>
>        Like many on this list (I hope!) I am looking forward to the BOS
>Convention thids Friday - Sunday (Sept 19th-21st). I am also hoping to
>maybe put some faces to names. To this end I remember some sort of
>origami-l I.D. being used at the OUSA Convention. Would anyone like to do
>something similar for the BOS Convention?
>
>                                Dennis.

I believe they used apple stickers on their badges.  It seems like such a
good idea, I plan to do that now at any convention I go to in the chance
that somebody will know the signicance and stop to say hello.

                                        Cathy





Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 23:25:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: gjsmyth <gjsmyth@aelmg.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Re: "New" Kawasaki rose

On Sat, 13 Sep 1997, Jane Rosemarin wrote:
> I have made Kawasaki's rose in OFTC and also the new one.
>
> The new one is quite beautiful, intriguing to fold and worth the effort.

I've folded the rose from Alex Barbers page (in .pdf).
Is this the 'new' one and if so what is the 'old' one??
Is it diagrammed somewhere else on the net??

I would also like to agree that this model is well worth the effort.
They make fantastic gifts!!!





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 00:46:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: William Wyatt <wbw95k@timon.acu.edu>
Subject: Hello

Saw the modular dodecahedran on a web page and went home and made my first
out of notebook paper. Any tips for a newbie would be appreciated.

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 01:48:27 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pam and/or Namir <pgraben@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: mailing origami

About mailing models, I thought I came up with a neat idea:

Instead of going the route of cushioning impacts, make the stucture more solid.
I took a strip of cardboard, and cut it so the width equals the height of
the box.
Then, I curled it (and stapled it) to make a column.  That way, there are
internal
supports in the box.

-Namir

!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
Pamela Graben:     Thinking... what a concept!
Namir Gharaibeh:  "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
pgraben@umich.edu





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 07:12:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Bruce Stephens <B.Stephens@isode.com>
Subject: Re: Kawasaki Rose, again, still....

joel@exc.com said:
> Which makes dozens of times, because I still don't understand how to
> lock the last petal in step 27.  I've done it twice, and ruined three
> other models trying....

With some difficulty!  It isn't easy, but that's what gives the model rigidity
once it's finished.





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:14:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Hello

William Wyatt <wbw95k@timon.acu.edu> sez

>Saw the modular dodecahedran on a web page and went home and made my first
>out of notebook paper. Any tips for a newbie would be appreciated.

If you like mod stuff, look for David Mitchells' "mathematical origami"
on Tarquin Press, available from BOS supplies.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:03:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@spacestar.net>
Subject: Re: "New" Kawasaki rose

Re: gjsmyth's query:

"I've folded the rose from Alex Barbers page (in .pdf).
Is this the 'new' one and if so what is the 'old' one??
Is it diagrammed somewhere else on the net??"

The earlier Kawasaki rose is found in:
Origami for the Connoisseur by Kunihiko Kasahara and Toshie Takahama,
published by Japan Publications in 1987.
The book is out of print. Try a library.

--Jane





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:08:57 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: BOS Convention

Dennis Walker <d_and_m_walker@compuserve.com> sez

>maybe put some faces to names. To this end I remember some sort of
>origami-l I.D. being used at the OUSA Convention. Would anyone like to do
>something similar for the BOS Convention?

Enclosed a graphic - if we make this into a badge we can say hello!

[deleted]

BTW, we *hope* to include a brief "live" report (with pics) of each day
at the BOS web site (technology permitting). There's a link on the main
page or go to rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/yorkrepo.html. NB - this will appear
Saturday morning & probably be added to on Sunday, all being well!

Please drop by & check it out!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:15:19 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Hello

William Watt wrote:

<<Saw the modular dodecahedran on a web page

Sort of depends on whose web page; there are
a couple of dodecahedrons around.

If it was mine, then square (or half a square)
memo cube paper or just about anything other
paper will do fine, as long is it is accurately
cut (i.e. square), and not terribly light weight.

--valerie
Valerie Vann
valerie_vann@compuserve.com
 Mostly Modular/Geometric Origami Web Pages:
 http://people.delphi.com/vvann/index.html
 http://members.aol.com/valerivann/index.html





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:18:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: John Marcolina <jmarcoli@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: Chris Palmer Hira-Ori Videotape

At 05:05 PM 9/12/97 -0300, Michael G. LaFosse wrote:
>Hi folks!
>
>Just a note to tell you that a new origami instructional videotape is
>available.
>The longish title is "Paper Folding Techniques of Chris K. Palmer -
>HIRA-ORI: Origami Boxes, Flowers & Tessellation".
>
>Chris Palmer does the demonstration/instruction and commentary himself.
>The demos are very clear and the camera angle is same-side, overhead,
>and with an occasional zoom-in shot.  The list of lessons are:
>BOXES-Square Twist Masu, Octagon Twist Masu, and Octagon Tato Box;
>FLOWERS-pinwheel Tato to Pinwheel Delux, Progression Flower,
>chrysanthemum Tato, and Five-petal FLOWER TOWER; SINGLE TWISTS-Octagon
>Twist (open back 1 & 2); TESSELLATION- Columns (multiple twist octagons
>in a single sheet).  There is also a wonderful video gallery of Chris'
>masterpieces.
>

Michael,
Do you know if the above-mentioned "Flower Tower" model is the same one
pictured on Chris Palmer's web-page?

http://www.cea.edu/sarah/chris/tower.html

John Marcolina
San Jose, CA.
jmarcoli@cisco.com





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:22:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: mailing origami

>
> On Sun, 14 Sep 1997 19:55:43 -0300 (ADT), you wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have tips for mailing origami so that they don't crush? I know
> >to use a sturdy box  but how do you pack them inside? I've never seen them
> >on arrival so don't know how they fare.
> >
> >Arlene Anderson               aanderso@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us

I've used plastic sandwich boxes ('Tupperware') of a size selected
to match the model. They are quite rigid, and so give good protection.
They are especially useful for 3D models.
Many sizes are available. They are not too expensive - ask the
recipient to mail the box back to you if the cost does hurt (suitably
filled...)!

Richard K
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:25:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re: Kawasaki rose from Postscript files

Clarence,

At 04.11 13/9/1997 -0300, you wrote:
> and was wondering if someone on this list could convert
>them to either gif or jpeg format...

OK. I've downloaded the .ps files, converted them to GIFs and ZIPped them
into a single file (75 k). I'll attach it to a message in your mailbox. If
anybody else is interested to get this file, please e-mail me ASAP.

I strongly recommend downloading and installing Ghostscript 5.03 (plus the
graphical interface GSview 2.2 if you are using Windows or OS/2). It's about
3.5 Mbyte of zipped files which should enable anybody to display, edit,
convert and print the Postscript files without problems :-)
All necessary info's here:

http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/aladdin/get503.html

Roberto

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:29:13 -0300 (ADT)
From: Tim Rueger <trueger@crystal.cirrus.com>
Subject: Re: mailing origami

Hi,

I've mailed small models (3"-4"or so) folded from kami in smallish boxes
(maybe 6"x6" or 8"x8").  To cushion the model, I put slightly wadded up
paper towels at the bottom, sides, and top of the box, and similarly
slightly wadded up kleenex (facial tissue) around the model itself.  No
problems reported so far...

-Tim
--
Tim Rueger -- Crystal Semiconductor, Computer Products Division
Fax:   (512) 462-2723  Email: trueger@crystal.cirrus.com





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:32:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: Allen Parry <parry@eskimo.com>
Subject: Convention Photos

Hello folks,

I have a question and I need your input.  I've been talking with Jan
Polish, V'Ann and others of OUSA board trying to figure out a way to
distribute, to you, some of the pictures that I took of the exhibits at the
OUSA convention

One idea we have come up with is to create a calender, using a different
photo for each month.  My question....how many of you would be interested
in a calendar and at what price do you think it would be reasonable?  Take
into account printing  limited quanities (under 1000) is more expensive
than when you use a Lithographic process, which when you produce many
thousand, brings the cost way down.  Let me know what you think.  Please
e-mail me privately at parry@eskimo.com   so as not to clutter the list.

Allen Parry
parry@eskimo.com

P.S.  For any of you  who are tempted to suggest we publish the pictures on
a web site.....you can forget about that....there are all kind of
ramifications to putting these pictures out there and still protecting the
wishes and rights of the creators.  We are doing nothing without the
creator's prior consent.  With some, this can be quite difficult and limits
us on what we can do.





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 18:25:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: "New" Kawasaki rose

Jane, writing:
+Re: gjsmyth's query:
+
+"I've folded the rose from Alex Barbers page (in .pdf).
+Is this the 'new' one and if so what is the 'old' one??
+Is it diagrammed somewhere else on the net??"
+
+The earlier Kawasaki rose is found in:
+Origami for the Connoisseur by Kunihiko Kasahara and Toshie Takahama,
+published by Japan Publications in 1987.
+The book is out of print. Try a library.

BTW:  OftC -> "Origami for the Connoisseur"

>From the archive of origami-l:

    Date: 7/7/97 2:29:14 PM

    From: "Daddy-o D'gou" <dwp+@transarc.com>

    Subject: Found: "OftC Rose!"

    After posting about the "rose conspirancy" I happened to look at the
    mess on my origami desk, which still needs to be tidied up
    post-NYC-Convention-madness.  And I happened to see the June '97 issue
    of the NOA magazine, which has, low and bee grasp, the "old"/OftC rose
    on the cover, and diagrams on the inside.  I didn't look to see if they
    were exactly the same as the OftC diagrams, but the model is the same.
    You can get NOA's through Sasuga (no affiliation except as happy
    customer).  You can get there from Joseph's page if you haven't got it
    bookmarked already.

            -D'gou





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 18:31:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: "MARGARET M. BARBER" <mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
Subject: Re: Convention Photos

On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Allen Parry wrote:

> Hello folks,
>  >>SNIP<<
>
> P.S.  For any of you  who are tempted to suggest we publish the pictures on
> a web site.....you can forget about that....there are all kind of
> ramifications to putting these pictures out there and still protecting the
> wishes and rights of the creators.  We are doing nothing without the
> creator's prior consent.  With some, this can be quite difficult and limits
> us on what we can do.

I think these photographs should be published in _The Paper_.  OUSA
members pay dues in order to be able to receive OUSA services which
includes a subscription to _The Paper_.  Surely this would still protect
the wishes and rights of the creators.

Peg Barber
mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 20:25:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: OUSA on line?

Hello,
  I seem to remember that someone from OUSA subscribes to this list.  Does
OUSA have an email address of their own yet?  If someone from OUSA could
contact me I would appreciate it.  Thanks.
--
 Douglas Zander                |
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       |
 Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA     |





Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 21:55:10 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mike & Janet Hamilton <Mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: OUSA on line?

Douglas Zander wrote:
>   I seem to remember that someone from OUSA subscribes to this list.  Does
> OUSA have an email address of their own yet?  If someone from OUSA could
> contact me I would appreciate it.  Thanks.

Email contact info for OUSA:
General Information - origami-info@origami-usa.org
Archives - Tony Cheng- tony@origami-usa.org
Business Committee - Mark Kennedy- mark@origami-usa.org
Business Management - Phyliss Meth- phyliss@origami-usa.org
Computer - Jan Polish- jan@origami-usa.org
Convention - Jan Polish- jan@origami-usa.org
Convention Exhibition - V'Ann Cornelius- vann@origami-usa.org
Convention First Timers - Lin Balinsky- lin@origami-usa.org
Convention Housing - MaryJane Heussner and Martha Mitchen-
housing@origami-usa.org
Election - Jean Baden-Gillette- jean@origami-usa.org
Exhibition - Ron Weinstock- ron@origami-usa.org
Library - Maria Velazquez- maria@origami-usa.org
Membership - Lin Balinsky- lin@origami-usa.org
Model Index - V'Ann Cornelius- vann@origami-usa.org
Origami by Children Exhibits - Ron Weinstock- ron@origami-usa.org
Origami by Children Circulating Collections - Administrator-
origami-info@origami-usa.org
The Paper - manager- Brian Jendryka- brian@origami-usa.org
The Paper - affiliate editor - Dee Lynch- dee@origami-usa.org
The Paper - International News Editor - Donna Walcavage-
donna@origami-usa.org
The Paper - Membership News Editor - Jan Polish- jan@origami-usa.org
The Paper - Diagram Editor - Marc Kirschenbaum- marc@origami-usa.org
The Paper - Book Reviews Editor - Gay Merrill Gross- gay@origami-usa.org
Publications - Marc Kirschenbaum- marc@origami-usa.org
Special Sessions - Maria Velazquez- maria@origami-usa.org
Web Site - Jan Polish, Marc Kirschenbaum, Steve Matheson-
ousaweb@origami-usa.org

Janet Hamilton

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 00:01:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: Basyrett@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Re: mailing origami

A friend suggested this method and it works.
Place origami model in zip lock bag.  (They come in a variety of sizes)  Blow
into bag inflating it and then seal (zip).  The model must still be put in a
box or an envelope but it is cushioned.  Make sure your breath is tolerable
when using this method. :-)
Barbara Syrett
Long Beach NY





Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 02:03:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@health.wa.gov.au>
Subject: in the news

>
>       Firstly to the discussion on teaching littlies origami - I've found the
>simple BOS leaflet (Paul Jackson's I think) which has many simple models that
>do not need accurate folding ideal for teaching.
>       Children love to draw on origami, and I have also found a few simple
     tulips
>(a triangle sort of folded into thirds) and triangle leaves (literally a
>square folded in half), or a couple of sailing boats, glued on to a sheet of
>A4 folded in half, makes a great card, which the children (as young as three)
>are proud of.
>       Personally, I find it fascinating watching very little children trying
     to
>fold paper with the colour outside - invariably they put the sheet colour
>side up, so when they try and fold, the colour 'disappears'!
>       The main frustration are the kids that become better than you - my 6
     year
>old has been inventing her own models since aged three - while I've never
>invented a thing!
>
>Now to the local 'West Australian' newspaper last Saturday (letters):
>I thought I had seen everything when synchronised swimming was accepted as an
>Olympic sport.  But now, to top that, the IOC is considering ballroom
>dancing.  I'm a little scared of what may be coming next - macrame,
>synchronised lawn mowing or possibly origami?
>Now that's an idea.............
>
>Clare Chamberlain
>Planning Officer
>Program, Planning and Purchasing
>Health Department of Western Australia
>189 Royal Street, EAST PERTH, WA 6004
>Clare.Chamberlain@health.wa.gov.au





Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 12:03:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: DonnaJowal@aol.com
Subject: Re: Convention Photos/calendar

I have to admit that I now get so many calendars from all sorts of interest
groups with all sorts of great graphics, I'm not sure I'd know what to do
with another one!  I guess that's not much help, but if I come up with a
better idea I' post it!

Donna Walcavage





Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 12:14:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Brett Askinazi <brett@hagerhinge.com>
Subject: RE: Another home for origami on the net

Well, I like IRC but we will also be subject to gate crashers using our
channel to pass pictures (non - origami pictures, I mean) and talk dirty to
each other.

Unlike this like the IRC has NO control other than making one person a
channel OP and then he has the decision on who goes and who stays.

And if you use an IRC client you are also subject to see other
unmentionable channels on the server.  I understand that there are many
children on the list.

IRC is a good idea for the Internet savvy but a terrible idea for newbies,
children, and the faint at heart ;)

Otherwise I'm for it,

Does anyone here use ICQ? It's a program that allows point to point chat
and will also let you setup an IRC type of chat that is perfectly private.
If you are interested go to www.mirabilis.com if you already have ICQ my
number is 1128699 and my handle is Elfbjorn.

Stepping down,

Brett

-----Original Message-----
From:   Jerry D. Harris [SMTP:jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu]
Sent:   Saturday, September 13, 1997 10:14 AM
To:     Multiple recipients of list
Subject:        Re: Another home for origami on the net

        How many of you would be interested in a place on the Internet for
_live_ origami chats and discussions?  I am referring here to IRC --
Internet Relay Chat.  I've been in many IRC chat rooms previously, and
usually they're pretty fun, but only a few of them are subject-specific,
like an origami one would be.  Such a room might be nice where we could all
get together live and at the same time to discuss various issues -- come to
think of it, we could even hold scheduled conferences there, sort of like
the one held at the last OUSA meeting about creating techniques.  Although
there are few enough of us out there that I don't know that such a chat
room would be continuously occupied by a folder, it might be nice on
occasion to get live feedback from other folders, and just to chat and get
to know one another anyway.





Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 12:18:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michael LaFosse <michael@origamido.com>
Subject: Re: Chris Palmer Hira-Ori Videotape

John Marcolina wrote:
>
> Michael,
> Do you know if the above-mentioned "Flower Tower" model is the same one
> pictured on Chris Palmer's web-page?

John,

The Flower Tower on Chris' web page appears to be an 8-petal version.
The one which Chris demonstrates in his video is a 5-petal version.
This is his favorite version to use as an introduction to the technique,
and it is my favorite version for its beauty.  Chris' technology of
making flower towers can be applied to many regular polygons and you can
vary the number of levels, the distance between each level, and the
number of petals.

Hope I have answered your question.  Now, I am off to England!

Michael LaFosse
michael@origamido.com





Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 13:21:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: Brett Askinazi <brett@hagerhinge.com>
Subject: RE: Hello

What web page did you see them on.

And what would you like a tip on :)

Brett

-----Original Message-----
From:   William Wyatt [SMTP:wbw95k@timon.acu.edu]
Sent:   Sunday, September 14, 1997 10:47 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list
Subject:        Hello

Saw the modular dodecahedran on a web page and went home and made my first
out of notebook paper. Any tips for a newbie would be appreciated.

|    | |    | wbw95k@timon.acu.edu
|    | |    | William Wyatt
| /\ | | /\ | KC5ZGH
|/  \| |/  \| 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
http://timon.acu.edu/~wbw95k





Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 16:59:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jean-Jerome CASALONGA <jjerome.casalonga@hol.fr>
Subject: Re: teaching

I know it's a crime to most of us, but after they've finished with a model,
let them play with it for 5-10 minutes, let them paint it, draw eyes to
animals, make some quick contests (no more than 5 minutes) with "Who will
fly the further", "who will jump the higher, ..."

Or, choose models with a great "forgivness" to errors (no Montroll or Lang)

        Sincerely,
                     The Mad Corsican Folder





Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 17:44:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: zipping origami

Basyrett@aol.com sez

>Place origami model in zip lock bag.

Better still, use PKzip to compress the model to packable size, then
have the recipient PKunzip it back to the original format. I find
PKzipfix useful to restore creases to their original sharpness.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:19:54 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@tessellation.com>
Subject: Re: Hello

>Saw the modular dodecahedran on a web page and went home and made my first
>out of notebook paper. Any tips for a newbie would be appreciated.
>
>|    | |    | wbw95k@timon.acu.edu
>|    | |    | William Wyatt
>| /\ | | /\ | KC5ZGH
>|/  \| |/  \| 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
>http://timon.acu.edu/~wbw95k

What was the URL of the web page?

Check out Valerie Vann's web pages. Check recent postings for her URL's.

Good luck,

Robert

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:21:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mike & Janet Hamilton <Mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: teaching

Jean-Jerome CASALONGA wrote:

> Or, choose models with a great "forgivness" to errors (no Montroll or Lang)

Actually, I've found that Montroll's book _Easy Origami_ is great to
teach beginners from.

Janet Hamilton

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