




Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 16:39:59 -0300 (ADT)
From: Wayne Fluharty <wflu@hotmail.com>
Subject: Bookbindings, a different way...

Here is what I've done with a lot of my books, and not just the origami ones:

Take it to a copy shop and have the spine cut off as close to the edge as
possible. Buy sheet protectors (clear, non-glare, non-stick, with
reinforced holes already attached to the side, not the kind where you have
to punch your sheets) and insert the pages into them. Buy a 3-ring binder
of appropriate size with clear pockets on the front, back and spine. Put
the covers in the front and back cover pockets of the binder with the spine
in the binder spine pocket. You have an added bonus if you get the binders
with inside pockets because they can hold any paper that you want to use
for that particular book.

This makes the books last a lifetime, the pages lay flat, it's easy to copy
pages (you can do it without even taking it out of the sheet protector) and
it can be done relatively cheap.

If any of this didn't make sense, hollar at me and I'll try to do a better
job of explaining or giving item numbers of the materials.

Thanks, Flu (Wayne Fluharty)
wflu@hotmail.com

"Imagination is the foundation of reality" - Gallagher





Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 16:44:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: jfrmpls <jfrmpls@spacestar.net>
Subject: Re: Glue for kusudamas

I like to use Tacky Glue for Kusudamas. I often apply it with a
toothpick. It is water-soluble like Elmer's but dries faster and does not
warp the paper, at least when applied to a small area.

Jane Rosemarin

P.S. This is my first posting. Excuse me if I've flubbed it.





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 16:17:10 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Dragons And The Like

On Wed, 6 Aug 1997, Fran Manion wrote:

> was about to buy it. I asked how much it was......$60. Is that the
> normal price for Yoshizawa's books? I'd really like to obtain some, but
> I cannot afford the price.

Japanese books are usually expensive, given that they are usually special
ordered. Besides, they start with a high price (given the high cost of
living in Japan), so the price on this continent is much higher (after
shipping & handling, etc). $60 is a good price for that book. It costs
about $50 in Japan, so $10 to bring it over the ocean & across the
country isn't unreasonable.

>       I was very inpressed by Yoshizawa's dragons. (sort of half sea serpant)
> Does anyone have the directions for these creatures? I'd very much
> appreciate a response.

Well, it's in that book you didn't buy, and it's also in one of his other
books (published in English), "Origami Museum I: Animals".

> 2)  Is the Book "Creating Origami" by, J.C. Nolan out of print?
>       I have heard rumors that this is true, but I don't know. I would very
> much like to own this book. If anyone has info on it, please say so!

It's still available. Check out Fascinating Folds.

> 3) Does anyone know of the book "Viva Origami"?
>       I have forgotton the author, but I know the book is out of print. I
> would really like to get it for a friend. If you have the book, and
> you're willing to sell it-please e-mail me!

The author is KASAHARA Kunihiko. It's a much sought-after book. Good luck!

> 4) Dragons?
>       Could someone recommend a good dragon model? I have come across many,
> and I'm still looking for more!

What kind of dragon? Western, eastern, wyvern, wyrm? Dragons are very
popular. There are many, many models!

          Joseph Wu           It's your privilege as an artist to inflict
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   the pain of creativity on yourself. We can
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami you how YOU paint. There's More Than One Way
                              To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
                                          --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 16:20:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Dennis Brannon <brannon@jamin.enet.dec.com>
Subject: RE: Dragons And The Like

Fran Manion posted:
>       I was very inpressed by Yoshizawa's dragons. (sort of half sea
     serpant)=20
>Does anyone have the directions for these creatures?
Yoshizawa's dragon is also diagrammed in Origami Museum I: Animals which
is unfortunately out of print in the USA. (was $14.95).
But its still in print in Italy (no idea on the cost).
>> Roberto Morassi posted
> >I'd like to add that the first Western translation of this important book
> >was Italian: Antologia di Origami - Animali (Il Castello, Milan).
> [...]>. It has been reprinted several times since, and is still in print.

Here's some contact info posted by Pat Slider on July 29th:

"Here is an online Italian bookstore:

http://www.edit.it/

I searched the database above and they do indeed list the yoshizawa
title. (And 81 other titles listed for "origami"!) And here is
another possability:

http://www.tinet.ch/sole/welcome_e.htm
"

>       Could someone recommend a good dragon model? I have come across many,=20
>and I'm still looking for more!
My personal favorites are the Robert Neale dragon from "Mythical Beings".
(That book might be still available from the New England Mobile Book Fair)
and Tom Stamm's dragon (booklet sold through Origami USA's Source).

dennis
--
Dennis Brannon
brannon@jamin.enet.dec.com





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 16:24:02 -0300 (ADT)
From: "J. Robert A. Lemieux" <rlemieux@ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: Re: Origami - Bow Tie

There is a Bow Tie on page 13 of "The Buck Book"
by Anne Akers Johnson published by Klutz Press,
ISBN 1-878257-51-X.

Bob





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 16:42:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@health.wa.gov.au>
Subject: kusudama

Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com> wrote
Glue for kusudamas in digest 804

Having lived in Japan for several years:
a)      glue is used in lots of origami in Japan - it's only Western purists
who get hung up about glue & scissors

b)      kusudama (that is, balls of origami rather than slotted modules) are
generally sewn together - Nippon Origami Association has a lovely book
on traditional ones & variations.  It's in Japanese but easy to follow.
(Does NOA have a home page?)

A BONUS - is that they make great baby toys as they are firm, bright,
rustle and quite safe to chew on (if you can bear the destruction and
they are well made - my daughter had one for over a year).

Clare Chamberlain
Planning Officer, Program Development
Health Department of Western Australia
(08) 9222 2194, fax (08) 9222 4076
(Clare.Chamberlain@health.wa.gov.au)





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 16:46:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: Ronnie White <ronew@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Dragons And The Like

At 04:03 PM 8/6/97 -0300, you wrote:

>1) Akira Yoshizawa
>I recently attended a class with Yoshizawa, and I was a bit disapointed,
>but I was still very happy to have met the wonderful folder. At the end
>of the class, Lafosse was there selling Yoshizawa's book. I am not sure
>which one it was, because it was in Japaneese. I picked up the book, and
>was about to buy it. I asked how much it was......$60. Is that the
>normal price for Yoshizawa's books? I'd really like to obtain some, but
>I cannot afford the price.

I think you'll find that may of the hardback Japanese books tend to be
rather pricey.
If you get one of these books and convert the price on the cover to US
dollars you'll find that it is expensive to begin with.

>2)  Is the Book "Creating Origami" by, J.C. Nolan out of print?
>
>       I have heard rumors that this is true, but I don't know. I would very
>much like to own this book. If anyone has info on it, please say so!

No it is not out of print. You can buy one from Michael LaFosse's website
Origamido.com.

>3) Does anyone know of the book "Viva Origami"?
>
>       I have forgotton the author, but I know the book is out of print. I
>would really like to get it for a friend. If you have the book, and
>you're willing to sell it-please e-mail me!

I assume you're refering to the one with the Demon on the cover. It is out
of print and highly sought after. If you can find it for sale in any
condition buy it. I've been looking for it for over a year with absolutely
no luck. Origami people are funny in that when they buy a book they usually
keep it forever.

>4) Dragons?
>
>       Could someone recommend a good dragon model? I have come across many,
>and I'm still looking for more!

Without knowing what dragons you already have it's hard to suggest one. I
must refer you to a real dragon expert, Joseph Wu.

Ron White
ronew@mindspring.com

"Never underestimate the incredible destructive power of origami"

                                                  Earthworm Jim





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 16:59:15 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Dragons And The Like

Fran Manion wrote:

> 4) Dragons?
>

Eastern dragon Models:

* by Jun Maekawa, in VIVA! Origami
* by Akira Yoshizawa, in Sousaku Origami (or some of his other books)
* by Akira Yoshizawa, in Inochi Yutaka na Origami
* by John Montroll, in Mythological Creatures and the
  Chinese Zodiac in Origami
* Joseph Wu's version is pretty impressive - keep bugging him!

Western Dragons:

I would suggest for the following books-

* Mythical Beings by Jay Ansill
* Mythological Creatures and Chinese Zodiac in Origami by John Montroll
* Creating Origami by J.C. Nolan

Have a nice fold!

|------------------------------------------------------\
|  _     Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) <chens@asme.org>     |\
| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 17:02:44 -0300 (ADT)
From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@aloha.net>
Subject: OOey-gooey glue

I've been using a lot of glue with my jewelry and found that with
ordinary origami paper, a very limited amount needs to be applied.  I
use a small paint brush to apply it.  If you use too much so that you
can see a blob of glue, the moisture spreads and the paper wrinkles.
Good luck, Jan
--
<http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 17:06:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@aloha.net>
Subject: Re: Dragons And The Like

Fran Manion wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> I'd like to thank everyone for all this great information! I haven't
> been reading my e-mail, and I finally decided to read it. (99 messages
> in all!) But after all is said and done, I'm left with many
> questions...I'd very much appreciate it if these could be answered!
>
> 1) Akira Yoshizawa
> I recently attended a class with Yoshizawa, and I was a bit disapointed,
> but I was still very happy to have met the wonderful folder. At the end
> of the class, Lafosse was there selling Yoshizawa's book. I am not sure
> which one it was, because it was in Japaneese. I picked up the book, and
> was about to buy it. I asked how much it was......$60. Is that the
> normal price for Yoshizawa's books? I'd really like to obtain some, but
> I cannot afford the price.
>
>         I was very inpressed by Yoshizawa's dragons. (sort of half sea
     serpant)
> Does anyone have the directions for these creatures? I'd very much
> appreciate a response.
>
> 2)  Is the Book "Creating Origami" by, J.C. Nolan out of print?
>
>         I have heard rumors that this is true, but I don't know. I would very
> much like to own this book. If anyone has info on it, please say so!
>
> 3) Does anyone know of the book "Viva Origami"?
>
>         I have forgotton the author, but I know the book is out of print. I
> would really like to get it for a friend. If you have the book, and
> you're willing to sell it-please e-mail me!
>
> 4) Dragons?
>
>         Could someone recommend a good dragon model? I have come across many,
> and I'm still looking for more!
>
>         Ok, I think that's it. I'm looking forward to the response. Thanks
> again.
>
> *arah*
>
> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
> e-mail: fmanion@capecod.net
> other e-mail:merkat@hotmail.com
> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Hi Sarah,
        I recently sent for a Yoshizawa book from Origami USA.  It was listed
as $55 and you got a 10% discount if you're a member.  It cost more else
where.
Aloha, Jan
--
<http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 17:09:15 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: NO: Mathematica, StarTrekTNG books

A local used/remaindered book store (90% of stock is new
or like-new condition) has a couple of books someone might
be interested in. They aren't a mail order business, but
in past have accepted mail orders for some OP origami books
(one even went to Australia...)

The are at least 2 copies of a 1400 pg book (paperbound)
about the computer program Mathematica, 3rd edition 1996,
new. List is about $45, these are $9.95; by the Mathematica
publisher. Beautiful color illustrations of fractals,
polyhedrons, all the other good stuff that can be done with
this very powerful computer math program/programming language.
(The program itself is horrendously expensive unless you've
got an academic connection...)

I suppose you could even simulate origami with Mathematica;
Robert Lang might have an opinion on that.

They also have several copies of a "build your own paper
Starship Enterprise (TNG version)" (and shuttlecraft). I
didn't check the price on these.

Sweet Briar Books  654 G Street Davis CA 95616
916 750-BOOK

--valerie





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 17:12:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Matthias Gutfeldt <Tanjit@bboxbbs.ch>
Subject: Re: Glue for kusudamas

Jeannine Mosely wrote:
>
> I realize that glue is a four letter word, but its use is traditional
> in assembling kusudamas.  Can anyone tell me what their favorite glue
> is?

I'd recommend "UHU hart", it's a swiss glue sold all over the world.
It's used for all kind of stuff; we used it to glue our model airplanes
together after they crashed into trees (which they usually did).
I don't have the wrapping of my tube anymore so I don't know what
they put in there; it's certainly not water based. I glued some paper
models together and the paper didn't ripple.
The distributor is:
Beecham
Markenartikel AG
9403 Goldach
Switzerland.

Matthias, glueing four-letter words





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 17:14:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Nancy B. McNitt" <nbm@mindspring.com>
Subject: Books

Yesterday I bought "Origami in King Arthur's Court" from a local independent
bookstore.It is published by St. Martin's Griffin, ISBN 0-312-15619-7. They
also had the new Dover Edition of Robert Harbin's "Secrets of Origami"
which everyone really interested in Origami should have.

Try your local book dealer for these books. In my opinion, the King Arthur's
Court, because it does not represent as wide a variation in models, is not
as good as Harbin's book, so if you have to make a choice get Harbin.

Glenn McNitt





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 17:16:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: whistle that works (diagram source)

> I was unable to attend the convention and I notice that the whistle
> everyone is talking about isn't in the annual, can someone tell me where
> to get a copy of it?

A set of diagrams appear in the book:

Vicente Palacios, "Papiroflexia Facil", isbn 84-7210-776-0.

They are on page 67.  The model is called "Pito que pita", and it is
credited to Angel Ecija.

Happy whistling,

Richard K
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 17:18:54 -0300 (ADT)
From: trioux@whoi.edu (Terrence M. Rioux)
Subject: Glue for Kusudamas

          Try "Glue Stick" manufactured by Avery Dennison company,
          Framingham, MA 01701.  It has the same consistency as lip
          balm (e.g., Chapstick), comes in a similar tube, and you
          simply rub it onto the paper.

          Terry Rioux
          trioux@whoi.edu





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 17:28:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Daniel J. Byrne & Candice Bradley" <djbyrne@pop.athenet.net>
Subject: "Bird" and "Cup" at www.learn2.com "Origami Crafts" page

Discovered in my travels on the web: the url of the "learn2 make basic
orgami" page, where instructions for a "bird" and "paper cup" are
presented on the same website with such pithy topics as reducing fish
odor in the kitchen and repairing pantyhose.

http://www.learn2.com/08/0855/0855.html

Candice Bradley
Appleton WI (alas, home from Zimbabwe)





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 17:31:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: fold4wet@juno.com (Rosalind F Joyce)
Subject: Re: Dragons And The Like

Favorite dragons include 2-piece "musem dragon" (part Neale, part
Kasahara), Tom Stamm's dragon, and lately, John Montroll's 3-headed
dragon.  The first two are intermediate, the third takes a little time.
All are great wet folded, dry folded, or plastic coated florist foil
folded.  Ros Joyce





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 20:16:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: LapinPub@aol.com
Subject: Paging Alan Perry...

I'm interested in obtaining a video tape of the "Creator's Round Table" held
at this year's convention.  Michael LaFosse told me that Alan Perry was
making copies.  Does anyone know how to get in touch with him, or have any
other information about tracking down this video?

J.C. Nolan (LapinPub@aol.com)





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 20:19:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: LapinPub@aol.com
Subject: Hey Jo...

Hey, I didn't know you were going to be at the convention this year.  I'm
extra disappointed that I missed it.  As I said in this months "Imagiro," I
couldn't attend 'cause of a wedding I had to attend.

What's up with you?  Are you ever coming back to the USA?  Have they promoted
you to president of the company?  Just what are you doing anyway?  I was
walking through the woods the other day reflecting on my desire to start a
company of my own and I asked myself who I'd want working with me...I was
suprised to have your name be one of the 4 or 5 I first thought of.  Thinking
about your origami models, I bet your one hell of a creative programmer.

Anyway, I'd like to keep in better touch.  I really enjoied hanging out with
you in Vancouver and have regretted that I've not had the chance to do it
again.  Maybe we could correspond on the internet or maybe I'll get a chance
to give you a job someday.

JC Nolan (LapinPub@aol.com)





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 20:23:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Mann, Jessica" <mannj@donmspcn.cmail.southam.ca>
Subject: Drooling over dragons

Wow, my inagural posting!  Hi everyone!

I have long loved folding dragons (as Joseph Wu, my most recent victim, will
tell you, having kindly acquiesced to my pestering about showing me how to
fold his Easter Dragon at 3:00 in the morning at the conference a month
ago!), and all this talk of them urges me to ask: are there any other dragon-
obsessed people out there?  Does anyone have a comprehensive list of dragons
or dragon-like creatures that I can drool over?  Any favourites anyone would
like to share their opinions and the location of? Pictures, diagrams?  Do let
me know!

Jessica
Mann





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 20:28:33 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Dragons And The Like

   > 3) Does anyone know of the book "Viva Origami"?
   >    I have forgotton the author, but I know the book is out of print. I
   > would really like to get it for a friend. If you have the book, and
   > you're willing to sell it-please e-mail me!

   The author is KASAHARA Kunihiko. It's a much sought-after book. Good luck!

"Viva Origami" is actually the title of a series of books.  This has
caused some confusion, since the title was recently listed in Sasuga's
catalog of available titles.  The first volume in the series features
a winged demon by Kasahara and is the one much sought after.  I'm
looking for a copy myself.

        -- Jeannine Mosely





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 20:48:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Mann, Jessica" <mannj@donmspcn.cmail.southam.ca>
Subject: Uh, feeling kinda silly

Wow, I hadn't realized there was a time delay between sending and posting.
I'm a little embarassed that people are answering questions that I will
soon be eagerly asking, making me seem like an oblivious boor.  To modify my
original questions: any OTHER responses or comments than those already given?

Also forgot, for anyone who wants to e-mail me privately, I can most reliably
be reached at bmann@chass.utoronto.ca.  This is my mom's account, so please
specify it's to Jessica in the subject line.  As of the end of August you can
reach me at bjda@musicb.mcgill.ca.

 Jess

 __________________________
My original posting:

Wow, my inagural posting!  Hi everyone!

I have long loved folding dragons (as Joseph Wu, my most recent victim, will
tell you, having kindly acquiesced to my pestering about showing me how to
fold his Easter Dragon at 3:00 in the morning at the conference a month
ago!), and all this talk of them urges me to ask: are there any other dragon-
obsessed people out there?  Does anyone have a comprehensive list of dragons
or dragon-like creatures that I can drool over?  Any favourites anyone would
like to share their opinions and the location of? Pictures, diagrams?  Do let
me know!

Jessica Mann





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:01:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Mann, Jessica" <mannj@donmspcn.cmail.southam.ca>
Subject: dragon question

While I'm drumming my fingers waiting for my other questions to the origami
list to show up, thought I'd ask another dragon-related question I'd always
wanted to know the answer to.

You know the two-part dragon, which has the body from the Flapping Bird
compilation book, and the head from Creative Origami (Kasahara)?  Does
anyone
know who came up with the idea of putting the two together?  I like to give
credit where credit is due, and I've always wanted to know if there is
someone in particular I should be blessing quietly for pioneering the best
combination, as far as I'm concerned, since chocolate and coffee.

Thanks,

Jessica Mann (again)





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:03:10 -0300 (ADT)
From: Daddy-o D'gou <dwp@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Glue for kusudamas

+There is a book out, _Crafter's Guide to Glues_ which purports to cover all
+of the major craft glues.  While it does have some information, what it
+actualy is is a project book suggesting buying all the different companies
+glues for different projects....

That is too bad.  There is a book out (I just got it, so I can't review
it), called "Recipes for Art and Craft Materials" by Helen Roney
Sattler, copyright 1973 and 1987, ISBN 0-688-13199-9, published by
Beech Tree Books "An imprint of William Morrow & Co.", paperback ($4.95
at Borders).

It is slightly larger than standard fiction paper back size, of 144
pages (including index).
    Thirty pages are devoted to various Glue recipes
    Thirty pages are for recipies for Modelling Compounds,
    Almost fifteen pages of Paper Mache recipes.
    Five pages of Casting Compound recipes.
    Thirty pagges of paints and painting medium recipes.
    Eight pages of ink recipes.
    Four pages of Flower Preservation recipes.
    Ten pages of misc. recipes (fixative, colored fire place logs, Newspap
        clipping preservative, making paper).

-D'gou (submitted at 5pmEST on 8/7/97)





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:05:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: Daddy-o D'gou <dwp@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Dragons And The Like

Ros Joyce wrote:
+Favorite dragons include 2-piece "musem dragon" (part Neale, part
+Kasahara), Tom Stamm's dragon, and lately, John Montroll's 3-headed
+dragon.  The first two are intermediate, the third takes a little time.
+All are great wet folded, dry folded, or plastic coated florist foil
+folded.  Ros Joyce

Hear Hear!
I'd add Robert Neale's Dragon to that list, it is cool as is but is also
very versatile.

-D'gou





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:09:13 -0300 (ADT)
From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@ahand.unicamp.br>
Subject: Re: Mathematica, (YES, origami)

>>From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
>>
>>I suppose you could even simulate origami with Mathematica;
>>Robert Lang might have an opinion on that.

I forgot to mention: a recent issue of Scientific American
(about three months old, it's the one with a white mouse in
the cover) has an ad about Mathematica and Origami. Someone
used the program to model some origami models (sorry, no
pun intended). She even animated the flapping bird. If no one
has seen it (for the Origami Sightings), I'll look at home
for details.

        Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:12:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kristine Tomlinson <ktomlinson@platinum.com>
Subject: Glue and Kusadamas

Hi,

I too, thought I was dropped from the list again, but was happy to get the
latest digest today.  Jeannine Mosley wrote asking about glues for
Kusadama, I use one that is in between Elmer's and epoxy, but forgot to
write down the name last night, so here's another idea.

The traditional kusadama module I fold has little triangles on the corners
that you are supposed to glue together.  Instead of using glue, I sink the
triangles on half of the modules.  You can then slip each triangle on a
module into the pocket of its neighbor which was created by the sink.
I've only done this with miniatures made from 3" paper, but it works.  This
may not work on more complicated geometry or heavier pieces. I love
self-locking folds/models and this kind of sink does just that.

Kristine Tomlinson
Waltham, MA, USA





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:15:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kevin Kinney <kkinney@mail.carolinas.org>
Subject: Re: Dragons And The Like

>4) Dragons?
>
>       Could someone recommend a good dragon model? I have come across many,
>and I'm still looking for more!
>
>       Ok, I think that's it. I'm looking forward to the response. Thanks
>again.
>
>*arah*

My recommendations:
        1)  Marc Kirchenbaum's "Rearing Dragon" from Jay Ansill's "Mythical
Beings" Book.  Not easy, but worth it
        (This book has 4 dragons in it.  To my knowledge the highest
concentration around)

        2)  Joseph Wu's "Flying Dragon" as yet, as far as I know, undiagrammed.

        (I know, it's a tease!  Joseph, I have diagrams for much of it, but
the final stages are confounding me!  Maybe others will pester you also
now!)

        3)  The Tom Stamm dragon, already mentioned, is also wuite nice

Kevin Kinney

Kevin Kinney
kkinney@carolinas.org





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:18:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: NOA Homepage (was Re: kusudama)

On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Chamberlain, Clare wrote:

> (Does NOA have a home page?)

No. I have their permission to publish photos of their world show on my
web site, but I've not had time to scan them in yet.

          Joseph Wu           It's your privilege as an artist to inflict
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   the pain of creativity on yourself. We can
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami you how YOU paint. There's More Than One Way
                              To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
                                          --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:21:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kristine Tomlinson <ktomlinson@platinum.com>
Subject: Takagi's "Origami, Koten no miru origami"

Hello,

This note is a long overdue public thank-you to James Sakoda for his
June 5, 1997 reply to my earlier topic "What did I buy?" in which I asked
about a special Oru issue on the history of folding.

Thank-you for the summary and translation (!) of highlights from the
historical chart in the back.  The book is a visual treasure and it's
wonderful to have a small peek into the text.  The translation you
provided refered to "treasure boats" found on kimono prints.  Yoshizawa
had examples of this boat when he was in Salem, MA recently, but I
haven't run across any diagrams for what is obviously a traditional
model.  (It is different than the Chinese junk and looks very stylized
almost like a joss paper folding.)  Does anyone know where I can find
this model?

Again, thanks very much to James Sakoda for your posting.

Kristine Tomlinson
Waltham, MA, USA





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 21:25:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Contractors Exchange <contract@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: NO: Mathematica, StarTrekTNG books

At 05:09 PM 8/7/97 -0300, Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com> wrote:

>I suppose you could even simulate origami with Mathematica;
>Robert Lang might have an opinion on that.

Robert acctually created an origami simulation program in Mathematica many
years ago. Of current interest, in recent Mathematica advertisements, the
program's power is showcased through its ability to show origami moves in
motion. I think the classic crane is included as part of the example programs.

Marc





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 22:19:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Drooling over dragons

On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Mann, Jessica wrote:

> I have long loved folding dragons (as Joseph Wu, my most recent victim, will
> tell you, having kindly acquiesced to my pestering about showing me how to
> fold his Easter Dragon at 3:00 in the morning at the conference a month
> ago!)

More like 4:00 am... 8)

          Joseph Wu           It's your privilege as an artist to inflict
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   the pain of creativity on yourself. We can
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami you how YOU paint. There's More Than One Way
                              To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
                                          --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 22:21:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: JacAlArt@aol.com
Subject: New Kawahata Book!

Anyone know anything about Kawahata's new book?
"Origami Sekai no Kabutomushi" (Origami Beetles)
Is it mega-complex? :-)
Or is it like Wild/Imaginary Animals ):-<

ISBN4-900747-17-3  published by Ishizue -- released 7/18/97 -- 1300 Yen

~Alec
(saw it on the Origami Tanteidan page)





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 22:25:10 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Dragons And The Like

On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Jeannine Mosely wrote:

> "Viva Origami" is actually the title of a series of books.  This has
> caused some confusion, since the title was recently listed in Sasuga's
> catalog of available titles.  The first volume in the series features
> a winged demon by Kasahara and is the one much sought after.  I'm
> looking for a copy myself.

I'm not so sure that that's correct. There are two other books published
around the same time, with similar covers, but they are different. Both
are also by Kasahara, and are called "Origami: El Mundo Nuevo" (Origami
Shin Sekkai) and "Origami: La Era Nueva". "Viva Origami" was actually
co-authored with MAEKAWA Jun, and it is his "devil" on the cover. I seem
to have misplaced mine... 8(

          Joseph Wu           It's your privilege as an artist to inflict
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   the pain of creativity on yourself. We can
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami you how YOU paint. There's More Than One Way
                              To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
                                          --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 22:29:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: dragon question

On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Mann, Jessica wrote:

> You know the two-part dragon, which has the body from the Flapping Bird
> compilation book, and the head from Creative Origami (Kasahara)?  Does
> anyone know who came up with the idea of putting the two together?  I
> like to give credit where credit is due, and I've always wanted to know
> if there is someone in particular I should be blessing quietly for
> pioneering the best combination, as far as I'm concerned, since
> chocolate and coffee.

That dragon is sometimes called "Toshi's dragon" after Toshi Aoyagi of
Toronto. Apparently he either came up with the combination and/or
promoted it. I've also heard it called "the museum dragon", referring to
the American Museum of Natural History since it was displayed at the
OrigamiUSA offices there. If there's a person associated with that
incarnation, I don't know.

          Joseph Wu           It's your privilege as an artist to inflict
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   the pain of creativity on yourself. We can
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami you how YOU paint. There's More Than One Way
                              To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
                                          --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 22:34:13 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@kimscrane.com>
Subject: Re: Joseph Wu Eastern Dragon

Hello Everyone:
I would like to throw my two cents in regarding Joseph Wu's Eastern
Dragon.  I am not one who gets excited about dragons.  But while
standing in line at this year's convention and looking at the models to
be offered in the diverse classes, I took a TRIPLE TAKE upon seeing
Joseph's model of his Eastern Dragon.  It Was Gorgeous!  I did not take
his class as I felt the level of folding to be beyond my capability, but
I will forever have that dragon etched in my mind.  While standing there
in total admiration, I understood why in the previous  l-server messages
the overwhelming response was for Joseph to teach this model at the
convention.  This is one dragon with personality.  Thank you Joseph!

Sincerely,
Kimberly Crane
Kim's Crane
http://www.kimscrane.com





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 22:37:12 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Takagi's "Origami, Koten no miru origami"

On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Kristine Tomlinson wrote:

> wonderful to have a small peek into the text.  The translation you
> provided refered to "treasure boats" found on kimono prints.  Yoshizawa
> had examples of this boat when he was in Salem, MA recently, but I
> haven't run across any diagrams for what is obviously a traditional
> model.  (It is different than the Chinese junk and looks very stylized
> almost like a joss paper folding.)  Does anyone know where I can find
> this model?

I don't know what Yoshizawa showed in Salem, but the traditional
"treasure boat" (takara-bune) is the same as the "Chinese junk".

          Joseph Wu           It's your privilege as an artist to inflict
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   the pain of creativity on yourself. We can
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami you how YOU paint. There's More Than One Way
                              To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
                                          --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 23:21:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: Steven Casey <scasey@enternet.com.au>
Subject: Re: Dragons And The Like

At 05:02 PM 7/08/97 -0300, Shi-Yew Chen wrote:
>Fran Manion wrote:
>
>> 4) Dragons?
>>
>
>Eastern dragon Models:
>
>* by Jun Maekawa, in VIVA! Origami
>* by Akira Yoshizawa, in Sousaku Origami (or some of his other books)
>* by Akira Yoshizawa, in Inochi Yutaka na Origami
>* by John Montroll, in Mythological Creatures and the
>  Chinese Zodiac in Origami
>* Joseph Wu's version is pretty impressive - keep bugging him!
>
>Western Dragons:
>
>I would suggest for the following books-
>
>* Mythical Beings by Jay Ansill
>* Mythological Creatures and Chinese Zodiac in Origami by John Montroll
>* Creating Origami by J.C. Nolan
>
>Have a nice fold!
>
>|------------------------------------------------------\
>|  _     Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) <chens@asme.org>     |\
>| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\
>|---------------------------------------------------------|
>

Heres a few more Dragons to seek out:

Western  Dragons:

- Created by Dave Brill         - Pages 46 to 50,  British Origami
                                August 83, issue 101. and
                                - Pages 172 to 177 of
                                Brilliant Origami (author Dave Brill)

- Created by Peter Lillington   - Photograph, page 24, British Origami
                                Dec 84, issue 109
                                -Diagrams, page 22, British Origami
                                Feb 85, issue 110

- Created by Robert Lang        - pages 154 to 155, The Origami Collection
                                May 84, issue 7

-Anthony O'Hara                 - Pages 6 to 7, Anthony O'Hare Creations
                                1973 to 82, author Daniel Mason.

Eastern Dragons:
- Created by Emmanuel Mooser    - Pages 30 to 33, Simple Origami,
                                 author  Eric Kenneway

Not all these references will be available but someone might be able to help
you with a photocopy (for personal use).

Regards,

Steven Casey,
Melbourne Australia,
scasey@enternet.com.au





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 23:27:19 -0300 (ADT)
From: mplewinska@mindspring.com (Magdalena Cano Plewinska)
Subject: Re: Origami Not Valuable? (Re: Art for self or art for money (was Re:
 Eric Kenneway))

On Fri, 18 Jul 1997 05:19:11 -0300 (ADT), "Mr & Mrs Owen"
<djowen@pcl.net> wrote:

> People around my city do not understand or appreciate Origami.
>  My son has worked for 8 years to
>perfect his folding.  I have watched him carefully fold works of art as
>gifts only to see them tossed in the trash......

Don't feel bad... There are philistines everywhere. Recently I went to
a baby shower. Since I was feeling guilty that the only thing I had
time to get was a gift certificate, I put it in a Fuse box made out of
fancy paper and filled with little stars left over from Christmas.
When the woman who the shower was for got to my gift, instead of
admiring the box, she just ripped it to shreds looking for what was
inside. All the stuff I made went in the trash. She's never getting
another piece of origami...

But it's also true what Daddy-o D'gou (is that *really* your name,
Daddy?) said. When you give a gift, you give it for the recipient to
do with as he wishes. Still, it's traditional to keep gifts from
children as  valuable tokens of the spirit of giving rather than
objects of value and beauty in the usual sense.

I feel for your son, but I think that there must be *some* people you
know who would appreciate his origami and they would be so much more
fun to give it to. Good luck finding them,

   - Magda Plewinska
     Miami, FL, USA
     email: mplewinska@mindspring.com





Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 23:31:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mike and Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Origami - Bow Tie

Nick Robinson wrote:
>
> Can anyone help this man?
>
>   ------- Forwarded message follows -------
>
> Dear Sir:
>
> I am interested in finding a diagram for a bow tie.  I intend to send out
> formal invitations to a business seminar and would like to fold a U.S. dollar
> bill into a bow tie and attach it to the invitation.  Can you please point me
> in the right direction.
>
> I look forward to your speedy response.
>
> Jim Bremer, President
> P.O.S. Solutions
> email POS.SOLUTIONS@USA.NET

>From the model database:

bow tie                          Creator: Adolfo Cerceda
                 Folding Money, p. 7  By: Cerceda
                 Begin w/ a 3:7  folding into book base.
                 level: M  #/steps: 8  Folds: knot
                 This model works well with money p

              bow tie                          Creator: Unknown
                 Buck Book, p. 13  By: Johnson
                 Begin w/ a 3:7  folding into cupboard base.
                 level: M  #/steps: 14  Folds: knot
                 This model works well with money p

              bow tie                          Creator: Paul Jackson
                 Folding Money, p. 24  By: Jackson
                 Begin w/ a 3:7  folding into valley base.
                 level: M  #/steps: 11  Folds: knot
                 This model works well with money p

              bow tie                          Creator: Cy Endfield
                 Paper Magic, p. 92  By: Harbin
                 Begin w/ a 1:2  folding into cupboard base.
                 level: L  #/steps: 12  Folds: knot
                 This model works well with money p

              bow-tie                          Creator: traditional
                 Magic of Origami, p. 30  By: Gray/Kasahara
                 Begin w/ a 3:7  folding into cupboard base.
                 level: S  #/steps: 9
                 This model works well with money p

              Carbata de Lazo (bowtie)         Creator: Adolfo Cerceda
                 Facinante Papiroflexia, p. 147  By: Palacios
                 Begin w/ a 3x7  folding into precreased base.
                 level: S  #/steps: 8  Folds:

              Corbata de Lazo (bow tie)        Creator: traditional
                 Papiroflexia Basica, p. 36  By: Palacios
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into book base.
                 level: M  #/ste

              Money Fold bow tie               Creator: traditional
                 Paper Pandas and Jumping Frogs, p. 74  By: Temko
                 Begin w/ a 1:2  folding into cupboard base.
                 level: L  #/steps: 8  Folds: knot
                 This model works well with money p

              One-Dollar bow tie               Creator: Peter Engel
                 Folding the Universe, p. 128  By: Engel
                 Begin w/ a rec  folding into landmarking base.
                 level: L  #/steps: 15  Folds: sq,petal
                 This model works well with money paper.

--
mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj/





Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 07:57:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Dragons And The Like

At 09:15 PM 8/7/97 -0300, Kevin Kinney <kkinney@mail.carolinas.org> wrote:

>>      Could someone recommend a good dragon model?
>
>My recommendations:
>       1)  Marc Kirschenbaum's "Rearing Dragon" from Jay Ansill's "Mythical
>Beings" Book.  Not easy, but worth it
>       (This book has 4 dragons in it.  To my knowledge the highest
>concentration around)

Thank you for for recommending my model (brings back memories from over 10
years ago). Unfortunatly, I understand "Mythical Beings" is difficult to
find. The model was republished recently in a collection of models by
children (yes, I was a child 10 years ago). The book is called "Awsome
Origami - Volume 2" (yes, there is also a volume I), and is published by
Alexander Blace & Co. (J.C. Nolan of Lapin Publications is the author). I
am not sure how to order this book though. It is worth ordering, as it is
filled with models by Jeremy Shafer (still a kid at heart), Michael Lafosse
(yes, he was a kid once too), Aaron Einbond (looks like a kid, but is not),
and a whole lot more). J.C. or Michael, could you enlighten us on the best
way to order this book? Thank you.

marc





Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 07:59:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: mplewinska@mindspring.com (Magdalena Cano Plewinska)
Subject: Re: (LONG) Many things .... !!!

On Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:35:04 -0300 (ADT), "jeffry kerwood"
<jkjeff@hotmail.com> wrote:

>15) More about storing paper, this time LARGE. I have lots of big paper
>( biggest about 3' x 4') and can't figure out a way to store it so that
>it is easy to sort through, isn't *rolled*

I don't know for sure whether they come in this size, but have you
thought about putting it into one of those large artists' portfolios?
I usually get the ones made of cardboard and held closed by tied
ribbons. (If you are cheap, two large pieces of cardboard taped
together will work as a portfolio to hold paper flat.) I store mine
"standing up" behind furniture. Behind a bookcase would work for
something 3x4 feet.

   - Magda Plewinska
     Miami, FL, USA
     email: mplewinska@mindspring.com





Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 09:15:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: FayeG@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Awsome Origami

On 08/08/97 07:58:15 you wrote:
>
>At 09:15 PM 8/7/97 -0300, Kevin Kinney <kkinney@mail.carolinas.org> wrote:
>
>>>     Could someone recommend a good dragon model?
>>
>>My recommendations:
>>      1)  Marc Kirschenbaum's "Rearing Dragon" from Jay Ansill's "Mythical
>>Beings" Book.  Not easy, but worth it
>>      (This book has 4 dragons in it.  To my knowledge the highest
>>concentration around)
>
>Thank you for for recommending my model (brings back memories from over 10
>years ago). Unfortunatly, I understand "Mythical Beings" is difficult to
>find. The model was republished recently in a collection of models by
>children (yes, I was a child 10 years ago). The book is called "Awsome
>Origami - Volume 2" (yes, there is also a volume I), and is published by
>Alexander Blace & Co. (J.C. Nolan of Lapin Publications is the author). I
>am not sure how to order this book though. It is worth ordering, as it is
>filled with models by Jeremy Shafer (still a kid at heart), Michael Lafosse
>(yes, he was a kid once too), Aaron Einbond (looks like a kid, but is not),
>and a whole lot more). J.C. or Michael, could you enlighten us on the best
>way to order this book? Thank you.
>
>marc
>

I purchased the book(s) in New York at the Convention.  Both Vol I
and Vol II are bound together, but reversed, so what would be the
back of Vol I is actually the front of Vol II.  It is fortunate
that I noticed it or I would have bought two copies.  OrigamiUSA
and The Source should know about it.

Faye Goldman





Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 09:28:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@ahand.unicamp.br>
Subject: Re: Mathematica, (YES, origami)

Hi, folks

As I promised yesterday, details of another Origami Sighting:
In the February 1997 (volume 276, #2) of Scientific American, an
ad on page 81 (hope they don't sue me for reproducing material here):

BEGIN

Mathematica unfolds the mystery behind the ancient art of origami

You can probably create a paper airplane out of a six-inch piece of
paper, but can you fold and create a piece of paper to make a bird
with flapping wings? Well, following Lucy Zamiatina's Mathematica
simulations, you can easily create this and many other origami
masterpieces.

With Mathematica, Zamiatina writes a Mathematica description for
each basic paper-folding step. She then animates the step so the
figurine can develop in sequence.  This renders the actual
movement of the paper segments and shows the initial plain square
of paper fold itself, step-by-step, into a beautiful origami
figurine like a winge bird.

"Mathematica's implementation of origami is based on the systemization
and geometric description of the actual moving paper segments," said
Zamiatina, who makes origami birds, fish, angels, and even space
shuttles. "This helps people see basic geometric constructs in a
picturesque and eye-catching context."

END

The ad mentions www.wolfram.com/look/scr for how to use Mathematica
for work or play. I haven't checked it myself yet, but maybe Marc did.

        Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 09:57:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@ahand.unicamp.br>
Subject: Re: Dragons And The Like

You may skip this whole message if you're not interested in legendary
unavailable one-of-a-time marvellous fascinating wonderful origami books.

>>From origami-l@nstn.ca Thu Aug  7 22:28 EST 1997
>>
>>On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Jeannine Mosely wrote:
>>
>>> "Viva Origami" is actually the title of a series of books.  This has
>>> a winged demon by Kasahara and is the one much sought after.  I'm
>>
>>I'm not so sure that that's correct. There are two other books published
>>co-authored with MAEKAWA Jun, and it is his "devil" on the cover. I seem

"Available at Sasuga"? I bet Sasuga's site is under heavy hit attack
right now, just to check if that's the True One!

I think Joseph's right. The words "Viva! Origami" (don't forget the "!")
are very prominent in the Demon book cover, I suppose that's the true title.
I saw two different dustjackets (my copy is probably a second print), both
with the famous red demon over a black background but at slightly different
angles.

Another hint: "Top Origami", the original Japanese version of
"Origami for the Connoisseur" also published by Sanrio a little
after V!O., has a dustjacket with exactly the same style, just
with Montroll's stego instead. The title characters have the
same size and font. So I don't think its true title is, say,
"Viva Origami 2".

Of course, the *book* V!O could well have started a *series* called
V.O., but that is not apparent to me, at least judging by the covers.

Looks like "La Era Nueva" and "El Mondo Nuevo" had a tiny print - any
news?

Wonder if origami-l and other folders could convince Sanrio to
reprint the whole bunch or The Origami House to take over the rights...

        Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 11:04:40 -0300 (ADT)
From: reeds@openix.com (Reeds family)
Subject: Re: (LONG) Many things .... !!!

>On Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:35:04 -0300 (ADT), "jeffry kerwood"
><jkjeff@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>15) More about storing paper, this time LARGE. I have lots of big paper
>>( biggest about 3' x 4') and can't figure out a way to store it so that
>>it is easy to sort through, isn't *rolled*
>
>I don't know for sure whether they come in this size, but have you
>thought about putting it into one of those large artists' portfolios?
>I usually get the ones made of cardboard and held closed by tied
>ribbons. (If you are cheap, two large pieces of cardboard taped
>together will work as a portfolio to hold paper flat.) I store mine
>"standing up" behind furniture. Behind a bookcase would work for
>something 3x4 feet.
>
>   - Magda Plewinska
>     Miami, FL, USA
>     email: mplewinska@mindspring.com

I've made portfolios from  appliance carton panels (you might need a
refrigerator box  for 3x4ft). A call to an appliance store or installer
would probably turn up a box before they recycle it. Then store behind or
under a couch or bookcase as Magda suggests.





Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 12:33:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: Daddy-o D'gou <dwp@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: (LONG) Many things .... !!!

Jeffrey Kerwood wrote asking about how to store large paper, and Madga
Plewinska replied:
+I don't know for sure whether they come in this size, but have you
+thought about putting it into one of those large artists' portfolios?
+I usually get the ones made of cardboard and held closed by tied
+ribbons. (If you are cheap, two large pieces of cardboard taped
+together will work as a portfolio to hold paper flat.) I store mine
+"standing up" behind furniture. Behind a bookcase would work for
+something 3x4 feet.

I too find this an interesting question.  At the moment, I have my paper
stored flat.  I saved a big piece of cardboard from some IKEA furniture.  The
carboard is bigger than the biggest piece of paper I have so far.  It sits on
the top of a desk, and while the cardboard hangs out over the edges of the
desk, it is sturdy enough that it stays straight and does not flop down over
the edges of the desk.

The downside to this is that to get to the biggest sheets I have to lift all
the other sheets off of them.

I was able to take Yoshizawa's Swan class at OUSA con '97 and asked him how he
stored his paper.  The stuff he demonstrated with was all from tubes, and I
wondered if the curl would affect the models.

The answer I got from the translator, as best I recall, was that if he didn't
store his paper in tubes, he would need a house many times larger than his
current one.  Because he wet folds, when the paper is damped it relaxes and
the curl is released.

I know of some folks who claim to hang their paper in a closet.  I'm not clear
on what the hangers are, but I imagine they are the ones that padded clips on
them.

-Daddy-o "You won't pay a lot for my opinions.  Guaranteed." D'gou
submitted to origami-l at 11:30 on 8/8/97





Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 12:39:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: NO: Mathematica

<<Robert acctually created an origami simulation program in Mathematica many
years ago>>

Thanx for the info Marc; I wasn't sure whether that Mathematica
was what Robert Lang used. I did know he is a Mathematica user/
programmer. He ran some geodesic calculations for me about a
year ago. I'd love to be able to afford the full version of
the program.

--valerie





Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 13:19:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Sorry Kits from Convention97?

The Convention97 annual books are out; when can we expect
the Convention kits?

--valerie





Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 15:11:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: Howard Portugal <howardp@fast.net>
Subject: Re: Sorry Kits from Convention97?

Valerie Vann wrote:
>
> The Convention97 annual books are out; when can we expect
> the Convention kits?
>
> --valerie
I got my kit the third week of July.
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West Chester, PA  |  whatever remains, however improbable,
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                 |  Sherlock Holmes, in The Sign of Four, ch. 6 (1889).





Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 15:17:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: LapinPub@aol.com
Subject: Opps...

An apology for the recent "personal" e-mail sent to the list.  I'm not sure
how it happened but it wasn't my intention to send non-origami material.
 Mea-culpa.

J.C. Nolan





Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 16:37:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mike and Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Mathematica, (YES, origami)

Carlos Alberto Furuti wrote:
>
> Hi, folks
>
> As I promised yesterday, details of another Origami Sighting:
> In the February 1997 (volume 276, #2) of Scientific American, an
> ad on page 81 (hope they don't sue me for reproducing material here):

See http://www.wolfram.com/discovery/its.html for the ad online.

Janet Hamilton

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Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 18:40:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@tessellation.com>
Subject: Re: Glue and Kusadamas

>The traditional kusadama module I fold has little triangles on the corners
>that you are supposed to glue together.  Instead of using glue, I sink the
>triangles on half of the modules.  You can then slip each triangle on a
>module into the pocket of its neighbor which was created by the sink.
>I've only done this with miniatures made from 3" paper, but it works.  This
>may not work on more complicated geometry or heavier pieces. I love
>self-locking folds/models and this kind of sink does just that.
>
>Kristine Tomlinson
>Waltham, MA, USA

What other self-locking folds/models do you know about? I am interested in
them also.

Robert

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Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 20:19:33 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kim Best <kim.best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: Mathematica, (YES, origami)

Mike and Janet Hamilton wrote:
>
> Carlos Alberto Furuti wrote:
> >
> > Hi, folks
> >
> > As I promised yesterday, details of another Origami Sighting:
> > In the February 1997 (volume 276, #2) of Scientific American, an
> > ad on page 81 (hope they don't sue me for reproducing material here):
>
> See http://www.wolfram.com/discovery/its.html for the ad online.
>
> Janet Hamilton
>

To see the actual animation you can go to:
http://www.wolfram.com/graphics/

Then click on "animations"

You will then see a scrollable pane appear.  Scroll down to the
flapping bird, and click on him to see the animation.

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Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 21:18:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: mplewinska@mindspring.com (Magdalena Cano Plewinska)
Subject: Re: (LONG) Many things .... !!!

On Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:33:08 -0300 (ADT), "Daddy-o D'gou"
<dwp@transarc.com> wrote:

>I know of some folks who claim to hang their paper in a closet.  I'm not clear
>on what the hangers are, but I imagine they are the ones that padded clips on
>them.

Now there's an intriguing idea! But who's got enough closet space -
not I!

I imagine that putting a square of cardboard (or of one of those
styrofoam produce trays) between the paper and the clamp would
minimize damage from the pressure.

   - Magda Plewinska
     Miami, FL, USA
     email: mplewinska@mindspring.com
