




Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:22:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Postcards <postcards@postcards.com>
Subject: http://www.origami.net

Hi,

We have Joseph Wu's site up and running, except for some odd
problem with one of the scripts we'll be tracking down.

This should improve performance on the pages for the US folks,
and for those who find links to japan slow.  Please keep me
advised of performance -- remember, peak hours may mean that
the pipes are clogged even if the server is chugging along fine.

Remember, origami.net is not a commercial project. It's not an
"org' because there is nothing to join or be a member of. What
it is is a network project, and that means the more of you who
get involved, the better it serves it's purpose.

I would also very, very much like to put the diagram archives on
the server, so that we could be certain of the links, and develop
a better overall index/map to them.   This will help people who
are trying to find a particular diagram, or flavor of diagaram.

If you have diagrams on your site that you would share, please
let me know.

The Amazon.com bookstore is mostly on-line, with the list
of all the Origami books they carry on-line at discount.
They don't seem to have all the books, but that may mean I
just have to locate them in their database via other means.
If you find others we are missing, please send them to us.
We'll be adding their 'hard to find' list, but for now, only
the currently available ones are on-line.  (We also need
cover scans of the books in sizes 250 high and 140 high, so
if you have the book, and can make a scan, THANKS!).

Purchases through there, will help cover the costs of the
site, and keep the look neat and clean.  If you have reviews
of any of the books, we'd like to add them.  I have many of
them, but reviews should be from different perspectives, not one.

Remember -- if you need a home for yor pages, or have origami
related stuff you'd like to get off your regular home pages or
put on one site, please let me know.   There is no cost to
non-commercial pages.

If you know websites, html and have free time to assist in
setting up laying out for people and the site, please let
me know.

On a different issue, supporting the server becomes a consideration
as well.  For now, there is no problem.  But as the volume of material
increases, aditions to the server become necessary.  Also, the better
we do our job at spreading the word about origami, the more care and
maintennce the server requires.  So keep this in the back of your minds,
and if you have suggestions or ideas, or come across something, please
pass it on.

We have not considered advertising, but if you'd like to advertise,
and help support the site, the advertising must be related to origami
and/or paper crafts, pretty closely.   Stores and shops that would
like to put a site up, we can arrange competitive rates, and again,
your fees would be helping to support the origami.net site.  This
would be my personal preference for supporting the site.  Similar
to purchasing an ad in the school year book or religious newsletter,
commercial sites who draw benefit from the origami community, can
put some of it back in the form of hosting fees and support to
origami.net rather than another ISP.

There are many 'link exchange' programs out there, but banners
add clutter and detract from the main purpose of the site.  We'd
like to keep a neat clean look, and that means YOUR participation
is very very important.

Please spread the word about the site with a link on your pages.
If you use the banner services, it's a great way to increase traffic
on your site, and help spread the word.

Origami Ring --  I think I found this once.  If there is such a
beast, please point me to it.

Thanks for reading, and supporting origami.net

http://www.origami.net

origami@origami.net

-rsp-





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:09:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: Re: New Books by Michael LaFosse

Valerie Vann asked yesterday about a series of new books by Michael Lafosse.

I have  returned from attending the Origami USA Convention in New York and
can give some information about this series. I was able to buy the three
books by Michael Lafosse, not from Origami USA Supplies, but from a
side-stall conducted by Alexander, Blace and Co Inc., which is the corporate
face the Origamido Studio run by Michael LaFosse and Richard L. Alexander.

The three books by Michael are as follows:

Make it with Paper:   Paper Flowers           1 - 56496 - 275 - X

Make it with Paper:   Paper Animals           1 - 56496 - 276 - 8

Make it with Paper:   Paper Boxes              1 - 56496 - 277 - 6.

Thhe fourth in the series is by Paul Jackson:

Make it with Paper:   Paper Pop-Ups           1 - 56496 - 170 - 2

All are published this year and are substantial books, 8 1/2 inches by 11
inches with some 70 pages of text and photographs and 40 sheets of templates
which can be detached and inserted into a pocket within the back cover. They
are printed on good quality paper, in full colour on every page. The covers
are of thick glazed card.  I paid cash, and carelessly failed to make a note
of the prices, but I believe they were about $30 each.

As Valerie suggested, they are not books of Origami and don't pretend to be.
Paul Jackson's is about elementary pop-ups. Michael's use a variety of paper
sculpture techniques. (Paper Boxes does have an origami box and Paper Animals
has an origami flyng bat.)

If  you are the sort of person that fulminates at the mere mention of
scissors and glue, then these books are not for you, but if you are prepared
to take a holiday from the rigid rules of origami and explore a little, then
these books are an excellent introduction to the wider world of papercrafts,
done with exquisite taste, as we should expect from both Michael and Paul.
They contain some ingenious ideas.

At the Origami Deutschland Convention held in Wurtzburg recently, I watched
part of one of Michael LaFosse's videos, and can commend it as the best video
on papercrafts I have seen so far. In particular, it contained the Koi Carp
from Paper Animals and I was fascinated by the lucid and fluent way Michael
demonstarated its construction.

The four books will not go into my library in the section on Origami, but in
the section on general papercrafts, and I. am delighted to have them.

The address of Alexander Blace and Co Inc. is:

63, Wingate,   at Railroad Square,    Haverhill   MA  01832 - 4727.

www.origamido.com      Tel:  (508) 372 - 1215

Congratulations to both Michael and Paul on a series of excellently produced
books.

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:10:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: http://www.origami.net

<<need cover scans>>

Pat Slider (slider@stonecutter.com) - she's on the origami-L
has an Origami Bibliography Page project under construction,
and is working on scans of covers and things. You might want
to coordinate with her on this to avoid duplication of
effort??

Just curious, though: Why are you tying into a specific
commercial site?

Valerie_Vann@compuserve.com





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:30:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: Judalyn <judalyn@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: origami.net

Joseph Wu wrote:
>
> Well, origami.net has its first tenant: me. "Joseph Wu's Origami Page" is now
> up and (mostly) running at origami.net. You'll find a link to it on the front
> page at <http://www.origami.net> or you can visit it directly at
> <http://www.origami.net/homes/jwu>. More photos are on the way, as well as a
> totally re-vamped look. Enjoy!
>
>  Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> > It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
> yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
> paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> > Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz

Hi Joseph,
        Thanks for your comments.  The following wouldn't go through when I
tried to send it as a comment on your page, so I'm forwarding here.

        Hi Joseph,
   Thanks for getting back to me the
other day regarding origami in the Los
Angeles area.
   I'm trying to find sites (and have
probably passed right by some) that
will show models, bases, etc. and dia-
grams on the Internet that I could try,
without having to buy _another_ book.
    I've been searching for a couple of
days and found one swan, but nothing else.
    Any assistance greatly appreciated.
Judalyn





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:51:50 -0300 (ADT)
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@ihug.co.nz>
Subject: Re: http://www.origami.net and origami web ring.

You wrote....

> Please spread the word about the site with a link on your pages.
> If you use the banner services, it's a great way to increase traffic
> on your site, and help spread the word.

I will add this link to my origami page this weekend
 (due to change it each weekend anyway)

> Origami Ring --  I think I found this once.  If there is such a
> beast, please point me to it.

Information regard the origami ring can be found on my page.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Laurie Bisman    lbisman@ihug.co.nz
Web page          http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~lbisman/index.html
Company           http://www.addlink.ac.nz/Home.htm





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:30:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@sci.fi>
Subject: New models in archives

I uploaded two simple models to archives, they will hopefully find
their way to models.bin drawer eventually.

They are

crose.gif - well, it looks a bit like a compass rose

simplebox.gif - my solution to a problem I had: I needed two-color
gift box with maximum volume from given sheet (ie. I had a big gift
and not-so-big sheets :)

I'm pretty sure they have been done before, especially the box. If
you know about similar models or have something to say about my
diagrams, I'm all ears.

Jorma
--
Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

They say I'm negative and indifferent, but I refuse to care.





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:52:50 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pam and/or Namir <pgraben@umich.edu>
Subject: Hint: carrying paper

Hey all.  I was wondering if anyone had occasion to carry 1" paper around with
them, and how did they do it.  The paper I speak of comes in a square inch, 500
sheets, o it looks like a cubic inch.  It's wrapped in cellophane.  I carry
it around
in my briefcase, but eventually, the cellophane becomes unable to act as a
container.
I tried a rubberband, but it degraded and broke.

Does anyone have any other ideas as to how I can keep all the sheets
together and with me?

Thanks...
Namir
!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
Pamela Graben:     Thinking... what a concept!
Namir Gharaibeh:  "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
pgraben@umich.edu





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:36:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Amber Stevens <AmberS@rosestudios.com>
Subject: RE: Hint: carrying paper

what about tin foil...........or even a plastic card case, or a floppy disk
case?
 ----------
From: origami-l
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Hint: carrying paper
Date: Friday, July 11, 1997 6:52PM

Hey all.  I was wondering if anyone had occasion to carry 1" paper around
with
them, and how did they do it.  The paper I speak of comes in a square inch,
500
sheets, o it looks like a cubic inch.  It's wrapped in cellophane.  I carry
it around
in my briefcase, but eventually, the cellophane becomes unable to act as a
container.
I tried a rubberband, but it degraded and broke.

Does anyone have any other ideas as to how I can keep all the sheets
together and with me?

Thanks...
Namir
!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
Pamela Graben:     Thinking... what a concept!
Namir Gharaibeh:  "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a
choice."
pgraben@umich.edu





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 20:03:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: Judalyn <judalyn@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Hint: carrying paper

Amber Stevens wrote:
>
> what about tin foil...........or even a plastic card case, or a floppy disk
> case?
>  ----------
> From: origami-l
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Hint: carrying paper
> Date: Friday, July 11, 1997 6:52PM
>
> Hey all.  I was wondering if anyone had occasion to carry 1" paper around
> with
> them, and how did they do it.  The paper I speak of comes in a square inch,
> 500
> sheets, o it looks like a cubic inch.  It's wrapped in cellophane.  I carry
> it around
> in my briefcase, but eventually, the cellophane becomes unable to act as a
> container.
> I tried a rubberband, but it degraded and broke.
>
> Does anyone have any other ideas as to how I can keep all the sheets
> together and with me?
>
> Thanks...
> Namir
> !-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
> Pamela Graben:     Thinking... what a concept!
> Namir Gharaibeh:  "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a
> choice."
> pgraben@umich.edu
> !-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
Hi,
        What about an origami wallet?  If what you're protecting is only an 1"
or so, it would keep it nicely.  I use them for business cards also.
Judalyn





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 21:20:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@aloha.net>
Subject: Re: Hint: carrying paper

Pam and/or Namir wrote:
>
> Hey all.  I was wondering if anyone had occasion to carry 1" paper around with
> them, and how did they do it.  The paper I speak of comes in a square inch,
     500
> sheets, o it looks like a cubic inch.  It's wrapped in cellophane.  I carry
> it around
> in my briefcase, but eventually, the cellophane becomes unable to act as a
> container.
> I tried a rubberband, but it degraded and broke.
>
> Does anyone have any other ideas as to how I can keep all the sheets
> together and with me?
>
> Thanks...
> Namir
> !-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
> Pamela Graben:     Thinking... what a concept!
> Namir Gharaibeh:  "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
> pgraben@umich.edu
> !-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
Namir,  How about making yourself an origami box to size?
Aloha, Jan





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 22:34:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: JacAlArt@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Re: Address

Tell me what you want and why you want it.

Alec Fehl
12016 1/2 Guerin Street
Studio City, CA  91604-2009
USA

And which diagrams are you interested in?





Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 02:30:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: RE: Hint: carrying paper

I carry 3 inch paper & square PostIts in a floppy
disk case. CDROM cases work for bigger paper if
the situation in your briefcase/backpack is not
so crammed the case will get broken. I carry
smaller amounts of 6 inch paper in a cardboard
folder made for notepaper & envelopes (one of
those "gifts for travelers", it's stiff enough
to write on, hence fold on).

For the one inch paper, try CostPlus or a craft
supply for small plastic boxes, clear/transparent
in colors and plain, various sizes and depths....

--valerie





Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 10:02:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Daddy-o D'gou <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Videos by LaFosse (was: New Books by Michael LaFosse)

David Lister wrote a nice review of Michael LaFosse's and Paul
Jackson's new paper craft books, and mentioned briefly Michael's videos:
        At the Origami Deutschland Convention held in Wurtzburg
        recently, I watched part of one of Michael LaFosse's videos,
        and can commend it as the best video on papercrafts I have seen
        so far. In particular, it contained the Koi Carp from Paper
        Animals and I was fascinated by the lucid and fluent way
        Michael demonstarated its construction.

I'd like to heartily second David's comments.  I have the pleasure of
owning Michael's videos and being able to watch him fold so close-up
and "on demand" is great.  While the videos are not cheap, they are not
"expensive" either, and I think they are well worth the cost.  They are
paced very smoothly, but you'll want to have your VCR remote at hand to
make it easier to stop the tape to keep up, or to rewind over the last
instruction.  It is the "rewind and watch again" aspect of video tape
that makes this such a great instructional medium.  It would be great
if other creators could produce a video or two of this quality.  It is
a nice way to learn a model, but it is much more vaulable because there
is so much you can learn about the subtleties of folding by watching a
very experienced folder's hand and model manipulations...

-D'gou





Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 13:59:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: Postcards <postcards@postcards.com>
Subject: http://www.origami.net

>From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
><<need cover scans>>
>
>Just curious, though: Why are you tying into a specific
>commercial site?
>
>Valerie_Vann@compuserve.com

I have no idea what you mean by this?  Perhaps you could
explain?

As for covers, several people have already offered their
covers, and there is a good start on getting them up.  I
have quite a few especially of the current ones, but if
they are already scanned, then it saves a lot of time.

Some people have japanese editions or editions that are
currently out of print or unavailable.  These will go
into the 'library' area, as a reference.  I'd like to
do it so that the books are listed with people who have
copies, so if someone has a question about one of the
books they can contact someone who has a copy directly
without posting a message that could be missed.

If you'd like to get in on that, and have books that are
out of print or otherwise unavailable, just forward a
listing (preferably with ISBN since many titles are
very similar) and the email address or website to tag to
it, and we'll start building a list.

At first this may look like a listing of people's
collections, but hopefully in short order it will be
a listing of books, with a list of people or sites that
have information about them.

-rsp-





Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 18:00:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: "Secrets of Origami" hardback available
> say me how I can send you the money and where.
>Pardon. my english is very poor , my idiom is spanish.I PROMIS YOU STUDY
>MORE.
>THANKS.
>ANDRES .   GRANADA.    SPAIN

        Sorry, Andres -- I don't have the book!  8-C  I was responding to a
post from someone else who owned the book, but they had already sold it
before I got to them.  Keep trying, though!

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Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  768-2701
Southern Methodist University
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Dallas  TX  75275-0395                (Compuserve:  102354,2222)

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the science."
                        -- James Morrow





Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 01:18:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: Maldon7929@aol.com
Subject: Teaching Origami

I've been asked to teach a class on origami ornaments during the first part
of October.  The students will be adults,and children 10 or over when
accompanied by an adult.  Hours are from 10:00 AM to 4:00PM with a half hour
lunch break. This will be the first time I''ve taught for money so I'm
feeling a little bewildered.  Any advice you experienced theachers (or
students) have will be deeply appreciated.

Thank you,

Maldon Wilson

P.S. For those people who worry about such things: I intend to create my own
models, but if I can't I will get permission before using the work of other
folders.





Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 06:56:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Hint: carrying paper

Pam and/or Namir <pgraben@umich.edu> sez

>Does anyone have any other ideas as to how I can keep all the sheets
>together and with me?

Surely the answer is to fold a small container? There are numerous
envelopes that could be adapted....

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with real Audio clips!





Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 07:48:14 -0300 (ADT)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: Back in the Fold.

Dear Companions of the Red Apple,

I find it hard to believe that the New York Convention was two weeks ago now.
I stayed on for a few days the see more of New York and get reasonable value
out of my air ticket, returning home on Saturday 5th more than exhausted, and
unusually for me, jet-lagged. It has taken a week for me to sort myself out.
Next week, I have to concentrate on other things, so I thought a short note
to Origami-L might not come amiss.

Incidentally, in case anyone doesn' understand the reference to the Red
Apple, I should explain that all subscribers to Origami-L who attended wore a
small red apple (because we were in the Big Apple) attached to their name
badges. And there were hundreds of them - more than you could ever introduce
yourself to individually. It seems as though the whole of Origami is now on
the Net..

I did manage to speak to a good number of you, but have been mortified to
find that there were some of you at the Convention, with whom I have
exchanged private E-mails at the and I never realised it. The fact is, that
with an attendance of some 700 or so, three days is simply not enough time to
get round everybody. As an example, I bumped into Rosaly Evnine, the daughter
of Lillian Oppenheimer, who had travelled all the way from Israel in the lift
(sorry, elevator). We greeted each other warmly and then I never saw her
again during the wholle Convention! So I'm sorry if I didin't get to see you.
And it was wonderful meeting the Subscribers I actually did meet. I managed
to have happy and useful meetings with many people, often not members of
Origami-L. including Sue Neff, Florence Temko, Vicente Palacios and his son,
Michaelangelo Palacios, Peter Budai, Akira Yoshizawa and my colleagues of
FOLD (now sadly in suspended animation). I'm in course of writing an account
of Mr.Yoshizawa's earlier life and his growth as a Master of Origami and I
was able to give him a copy of my first draft. But oh, the Curse of Babel! My
account was in English and he speaks only Japanese, so it will have to be
translated for him. Fortunately his translator offered to do this. Still, I
managed to obtain from Mr. Yoshizawa clarifications of three particular
points which puzzled me. We hope that he will be coming to the BOS Convention
at York next September, so I may be able to have a longer discussion with him
then.

I was pleased to meet the visitors from Argentina, Brazil, Peru  and Mexico.
I gave them copies of my essay on the History of Paperfolding in South
America and hope that they will let me know where I have gone wrong, so that
I can put my mistakes right in any revised edition.

As for New York, I think that i did my best to savour its fascinating
variety, from the Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island, Trinity Church and the
World Trade Center towers in the South to the Cloisters Museum in the far
north. In the park surrounding the Cloisters I caught a flashing glimpse of a
Cardinal Bird and another of an American Robin. I'm told that neither is
particularly rare, but for a visitor from another continent, it was a thrill
to see them. I also saw a bird which, from an examination of my copy of
Peterson's Field Guide to the Birds could only be a Western Kingbird, but
acording to my reading of the book, it shouldn't have been in New York! Can
any American ornithologists help me please?

I know I'm a musum sort of person and that many are not, but I think that the
most magnificent thing about New York is its museums. Besides the Cloisters
(surely the Queen of Museums), I visited the Frick Colection, the Natural
History Museum, the Pierpont Morgan Library, the Guggenheim and, of course,
the Metropolitan. All in their different ways were superb, from the new
Gemstones and Minerals exhibit and the Dinosaurs at the Nat. Hist. to the new
Oriental Galleries at the Met. I commend the new Japanese galleries to every
lover of Origami. Such exquisite taste!

Now I am busy, but I see there have recently been one or two postings about
Dokuohtei Nakano. The original query seems to have eliminated itself from my
archive. It was very short - could someone please send a copy to me? Before I
begin the other things I must get down to next week, therefore I hope to
write a short piece about Nakano and post it to Origami-L. I hope it won't
congest anyone's postbox. In my opinion  Nakano is one of the most
significant folders in the history of modern paperfoding techniques and yet
one of the most overlooked.

I am conscious that I owe personal letters to quite a large number of
subscribers as well as to other people. I hope you will bear with me. I
promise to write to you all as soon as I can.

With all good wishes and thanks to everone for a wonderful Convention.

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 12:43:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: doves?

I'm in search of models of doves.  These can be of varying complexity, but I
am concerned with teachable models, i.e. those which can be taught
completely within a reasonable amount of time.

Anyone care to share their favorites? (And where the diagrams are published,
naturally :-)

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 12:56:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: http://www.origami.net

<<Some people have japanese editions or editions that are
<<currently out of print or unavailable.  These will go
<<into the 'library' area, as a reference.

This is exactly why I suggested you might want to
coordinate with Pat Slider to avoid duplication of effort.
She is working on a *comprehensive* online origami
bibliography with scanned covers. Pat has been compiling
book lists with ISBNs etc, especially for Japanese titles
such as Tomoko Fuse's 40-50 books (that we know of, so far)

<< Why are you tying into a specific commercial site? >>

I referred to your statement that you would have some
commercial connection or arrangement with amazon.com,
presumably through their associated ordering setup.

I've nothing against amazon.com, I buy books from them
all the time, even origami-books sometimes. But since
your origami.net seemed to be more of a non-profit
cooperative effort I wondered about the amazon connection.
Why not the small independents (Sasuga, Fascinating Folds,
Kims Cranes, OUSA Supply...)? Based on some discussions
on the origami-L, many of us feel the folding community
has a vested interest is keeping these specialty suppliers
healthy.

As I said, "just curious".

Valerie_Vann@compuserve.com





Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 12:56:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Post Script, Joseph Wu's web pages

Hi Joseph,

Yea, I know being discussed "third party" is weird, it happens to me
too. But I thought I recalled you had some of your diagrams, besides
yours that are in the archive.

Anyway, I once had someone (a "newbie" on the list) visit my site,
and write asking about printing out PostScript. I expained about
PDF format and that all mine were in both forms (they were at
that time). Then the person wrote back that they'd found something
elsewhere and could I convert it for them? I said yes, and suddenly
my mailbox was being deluged with the entire origami-L archive
PostScript file collection.  :-)

Are you moving your site from Japan to origami-net or just
mirroring it?

--valerie
Valerie_Vann@compuserve.com





Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 12:57:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michel Bartolone <bartolon@execpc.com>
Subject: Meeting people

<David Lister wrote>

>As an example, I bumped into Rosaly Evnine, the daughter
>of Lillian Oppenheimer, who had travelled all the way from Israel in the lift
>(sorry, elevator).      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Wow! There is a lift from Israel to NYC? How long does it take? I'd love to
visit there...:)

Sorry, I couldn't resist!





Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:43:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: Dove request

In response to the request for a dove model, I have found diagrams for two
different doved in Kasahara's "Origami Omnibus." The ISBN # is
0-87040-699-x. Both models are at the intermediate level.

Marc





Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:05:29 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Cube from 12 biz cards Howto

In response to a request, I've stuck some crude diagrams
for units and assembly for the 12 card open face cube
shown on my Business Card Origami web pages. The URL is:

http://users.aol.com/polygons/bcards/12cube.html

Your on your own with these, folks; I can't spend anymore
time on this right now.

--valerie
Valerie_Vann@compuserve.com





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:12:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: Re: Hint: carrying paper

        I travel with 1" paper frequently since I do a great deal of airline
     travel.  Since I usually have two or three packets at a time, I remove the
     stiff cardboard that comes with the paper and put it at the top and bottom
     of the stack and secure it w

        I've tried to find Tupperware or other small containers appropriate to
     several sizes of paper, but usually these are unsuitable (IMHO) since they
     are slightly larger than I need and the papers tend to get messed up.  If
     all origamists are as psych

               Origami:  "Welcome to the fold"

                     Steve Woodmansee

                     stevew@empnet.com

                    Bend, Oregon

            <bold>http://www.empnet.com/woodmansee

</bold>





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:54:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: A.Welles@student.kun.nl
Subject: "Origami in Action"

Hi there,

I just would like to make my compliments on Robert J. Lang's new book
"Origami in Action", I got it the other week and there is some really
good stuff in the book! (I had a lot of fun showing my younger cousins
models such as the catapult and the otter!)

Does anybody know whether there are new books coming up by other artists
(like eg. Montroll?)

Bye, have (fold) a nice holiday!

Arjan Welles
The Netherlands
(A.Welles@Student.kun.nl)





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:18:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Nancy B. McNitt" <nbm@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Hint: carrying paper

Old 5 1/4 inch PC disk  boxes work well when the plastic parts inside are
removed.
Boxes from Fedex will hold larger sheets. Boxes for photos can also be adapted.
I then use boxes fom copy paper to hold all of the smaller boxes. These can
be cut down if you wish a shorter size.

Hint: Wooden coffee Stiring sticks work well for helping with squash
folding, etc. Sharpen one end to a dull point before use.

Glenn McNitt

 At 06:56 AM 7/13/97 -0300, you wrote:
>Pam and/or Namir <pgraben@umich.edu> sez
>
>>Does anyone have any other ideas as to how I can keep all the sheets
>>together and with me?
>
>Surely the answer is to fold a small container? There are numerous
>envelopes that could be adapted....
>
>all the best,
>
>Nick Robinson
>
>personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
>homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
>BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
>RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with real Audio clips!





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:52:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@ahand.unicamp.br>
Subject: Re: doves?

Hi Carol,

As Marc has mentioned, you can find dove models in Kasahara's O. Omnibus -
especially the "Dove in Flight" is easy and cute. *Unfortunately*
O.O. is out of print. If you can't find it, I strongly suggest Vicente
Palacios's "Fascinante Papiroflexia", with several dove models by A.
Cerceda, either perched, standing or flying. It was recently reprinted
by Dover as "Fascinating Origami" so it's readily available. This English
edition has b/w instead of color diagrams; two models were removed and
two added (no doves or pigeons lost).
For even easier doves, check Momotani's Flying Bird Origami (but not
Montroll's Birds in Origami).





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:50:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Matthias Gutfeldt <Tanjit@bboxbbs.ch>
Subject: A new folder is born!

Hi all,

just wanted to announce the birth of our son Jan Florian. He was
born on Sunday, 13. July 1997, at 7:27 in the morning (local time).
Everything went OK, but we're all still rather tired (except for
our daughter Lea, of course; she slept through the excitement...).
Well, gotta practice some diaper folds now :-).

Matthias from Bern, Switzerland





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:50:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kevin Kinney <kkinney@mail.carolinas.org>
Subject: Re: doves?

>I'm in search of models of doves.  These can be of varying complexity, but I
>am concerned with teachable models, i.e. those which can be taught
>completely within a reasonable amount of time.
>
>Anyone care to share their favorites? (And where the diagrams are published,
>naturally :-)
>
>Carol Hall
>chall@scsn.net

Carol,
        Did someone tell yu about Palacios' "Fascinating Origami" a
compilation of Cerceda's works.  Lots of doves (or pigeons).  I just picked
it up this weekend (in New York, but it should be available from one of the
bookstores...)

M. Cerceda must have loved birds, 'cause there are a bunch of them in the
book...

Kevin

Kevin Kinney
kkinney@carolinas.org





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:28:59 -0300 (ADT)
From: Dennis Walker <d_and_m_walker@compuserve.com>
Subject: Printing

Hello,

        I've just downloaded a number of Post script files from Joseph Wu's
page. Using Ghostview, I can print most of them,  but I am having
difficulty printing the modular chessboard and Santa patterns. Noticably
both use colour. The Santa won't print at all, the chessboard is
unreadable.
        Can anyone help?

                        Thanks,
                                Dennis





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:26:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Back in the Fold.

At 07:48 AM 7/13/97 -0300, you wrote:
>
>
>With all good wishes and thanks to everone for a wonderful Convention.
>
>David Lister.
>
I am very sorry for not commenting earlier on the OUSA convention. I support
David's remarks completely. I have written already to Jan Polish about the
convention but I would like to express, on origami-l, my deep appreciation
of the enormous amount of work that the organisers put in and which resulted
in such a superb convention. It was a very happy 3 days and the atmosphere
of friendliness and sharing shone through.

thanks yet again

John
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:42:40 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michael Clark <mclark@DigitalAspect.com>
Subject: Origami Omnibus

I have spent the last week trying to find a copy of Kasahara's Origami
Omnibus, which as ya'll probably know is (unofficially) out-of-print. My
quest led me to a U.S representative of Kodansha, a Mr. Fujiwara, who told
me that they are trying to get it re-published, perhaps within a year!

Now, that being said, if anyone can help me find a copy sooner, I'd
certainly appreciate it.

Thanks,

<<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>>
Michael Clark                ><  The boy, ah say, the boy's
Digital Aspect               ><  about as sharp as a
Cary, NC                     ><  bowlin' ball.
MClark@DigitalAspect.com     ><       -Foghorn Leghorn





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:46:12 -0300 (ADT)
From: Postcards <postcards@postcards.com>
Subject: http://www.origami.net

At 01:51 PM 7/14/97 -0300, you wrote:
>I referred to your statement that you would have some
>commercial connection or arrangement with amazon.com,
>presumably through their associated ordering setup.
>
>I've nothing against amazon.com, I buy books from them
>all the time, even origami-books sometimes. But since
>your origami.net seemed to be more of a non-profit
>cooperative effort I wondered about the amazon connection.
>Why not the small independents (Sasuga, Fascinating Folds,
>Kims Cranes, OUSA Supply...)? Based on some discussions
>on the origami-L, many of us feel the folding community
>has a vested interest is keeping these specialty suppliers
>healthy.
>
>As I said, "just curious".

Amazon pays a commission on the sales, which does NOT
increase costs to the consumer.  This is a way for us
to keep the site free.  It also is not banner advertising
which can be anything, not just paper crafting, and slows
the site down.  It's there if someone wants it, and it's
clearly marked, and easily ignored.

It's the only impartial way to do it.

We'll have links to other sites, and it's up to the consumer
to decide where they want to purchase, but their purchases
from Origami.net will help keep that site free and zippy.

The concept of origami.net has to be 'practical'.  The
internet is expensive, and the PDF/PS files are large,
and consume bandwidth.

Right now, it's piggybacking on our other commercial servers,
so it's costing very little, but as it expands, the costs
will go up. By having even a small revenue stream (we don't
need much) we can ensure origami.net will remain free and fast.

I hope that explains it.

Think about the issue.  If the smaller (and larger) stores
supported us with their hosting fees, then they TOO would be
giving back to the origami community by keeping the public
server alive and well, rather than just 'selling' to them.

-rsp-





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:54:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michael Clark <mclark@DigitalAspect.com>
Subject: Convention Story...

I attended my first OUSA convention this summer, and had far more fun than
I deserved! I thought I'd relate a funny experience from the convention.

On Monday, Techniques Day, I took Marc Kennedy's class on decorating paper
for folding. We used concentrated watercolors and sponges to apply colors
and patterns to the backs of squares of foil paper. At the table next to me
was Sr. Vicente Palacios, the Spanish (I think) folder and author. I had
just finished decorating a piece that I was particularly pleased with, and
was admiring it.  Sr. Palacios also seemed to be admiring it, and using
gestures and a little English, asked if he could fold it.  I was honored
and pleased, so of course I handed the paper to him, and then went back to
work on the next piece.

A little while later, I looked up to see that Sr. Palacios had finished
folding my paper.  He has a very nice high-heeled shoe that he folds, and
that's what he had made using the paper I had given him.  Imagine my
dismay, however, when I saw that he had folded the foil side out, leaving
my beautiful decorations folded to the inside of the model, and completely
invisible!

Whatever.
<<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>>
Michael Clark                ><  The boy, ah say, the boy's
Digital Aspect               ><  about as sharp as a
Cary, NC                     ><  bowlin' ball.
MClark@DigitalAspect.com     ><       -Foghorn Leghorn





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:16:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Printing

If you have, or can use (Mac, PC, etc) Adobe
Acrobat Reader,  (free from www.adobe.com)
get the PDF versions from the origami archive or
Alex Barber's mirror site. See the links at the
bottom of my web page.

The PDF files should print no problem from whatever
printer you've got. Generally less hassle than the
PostScript version &/or Ghostscript.

--valerie
Valerie Vann
valerie_vann@compuserve.com
Mostly Modular/Geometric Origami Web Page:
http://people.delphi.com/vvann/index.html





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:44:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: Penny Groom <penny@sector.demon.co.uk>
Subject: NOA CONVENTION

Does anyone know that dates of the NOA convention? a BOS member, not on
internet asked me to find out.

Thanks

Penny
Penny Groom
penny@sector.demon.co.uk
Membership Secretary British Origami Society





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:48:06 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mike and Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Washi Box Kits

I got the attached inquiry about washi box kits.  I replied that I have
seen some small box kits at Kinokuniya and Pearl Arts and Crafts.  Does
anyone have any other possible sources for the type of kits described
below?

Janet Hamilton

--
mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj/

Subject:
           Re: Washi Craft kits
      Date:
           Sat, 12 Jul 1997 08:31:15 -0700
      From:
           Debbie Erickson <debianne@flash.net>
        To:
           Mike and Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Mike and Janet Hamilton wrote:

> Debbie,
>
> By washi crafts, do you mean washi eggs or stuff like the washi boxes
> with drawers?  I have seen the boxes at Kinokuniya and at Pearl Arts and
> Crafts.

Hi Janet. :)  I'm *so* glad you responded!  I'll try to explain what I'm
looking for, but I'm not very good at it, I'm afraid. :/  Actually, the
kits I'm searching for is closer to the box variety.  The ones I'm
familiar with range from pencil boxes up to very large 6-drawer chests.
I've made many of these.  The Sakura store I frequented also had holders
for remote controls and telephone directory holders.  The remote control
box had four slots on it's top.  It could hold TV Guides, remotes of all
sizes.  The directory holder is a little harder for me to describe.
Perhaps I can draw it with ascii characters.

                    phone goes here
                          |
                          |
                          V

                  |------------------|
                  |                  |
                  |                  | <-------washi phone book holder
                  |                  |
                         |
                         |
                         |
               Phone book goes here, under top of holder.
               The directory is 3-sided, with no bottom.
               I've seen plexiglass phone stands similar
               in design.  I could buy one of them and
               cover it in washi. :)

There may be others I'd like, but I can talk with the shop owner to see
what they carry.

Los Angeles has an area called Little Tokyo.  There are several
bookstores down there, but I didn't see any craft stores, per se.
Strangely, when I asked several workers in the various bookstores, I got
blank stares; many seemed like new immigrants with a tentative grasp of
the English language.  I found one book store that sold the washi paper
for origami folding, but no box kits.  I've found a store in Japan named
Yuzen that said they do International sales, but it seems they may not
do small orders like mine.  I'm waiting to hear back from them on this
issue.  Guess they have to think about it, since there's not much profit
involved. :)  And I found an American couple living in Japan, but the
currency problem seems a little overwhelming.  If I could find a company
anywhere in the USA that sells these, I'd rather deal directly with
them.

Again, thanks for your response.

Take Care,
Debbie Erickson





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:03:16 -0300 (ADT)
From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@aloha.net>
Subject: Re: A new folder is born!

Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> just wanted to announce the birth of our son Jan Florian. He was
> born on Sunday, 13. July 1997, at 7:27 in the morning (local time).
> Everything went OK, but we're all still rather tired (except for
> our daughter Lea, of course; she slept through the excitement...).
> Well, gotta practice some diaper folds now :-).
>
> Matthias from Bern, Switzerland

Matthias and Family,
Congratulations on your new baby.  How exciting and wonderful.
Aloha, Jan





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:15:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Convention Story...

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Michael Clark wrote:

> A little while later, I looked up to see that Sr. Palacios had finished
> folding my paper.  He has a very nice high-heeled shoe that he folds, and
> that's what he had made using the paper I had given him.  Imagine my
> dismay, however, when I saw that he had folded the foil side out, leaving
> my beautiful decorations folded to the inside of the model, and completely
> invisible!

Was any of it visible? Perhaps the pattern was visible inside the shoe,
so that it looked like a leather shoe lined with a floral print cloth?

          Joseph Wu           It's your privilege as an artist to inflict
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   the pain of creativity on yourself. We can
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami you how YOU paint. There's More Than One Way
                              To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
                                          --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 22:42:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Ronnie White <ronew@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Origami Omnibus

At 03:42 PM 7/14/97 -0300, you wrote:
>I have spent the last week trying to find a copy of Kasahara's Origami
>Omnibus, which as ya'll probably know is (unofficially) out-of-print. My
>quest led me to a U.S representative of Kodansha, a Mr. Fujiwara, who told
>me that they are trying to get it re-published, perhaps within a year!
>
>Now, that being said, if anyone can help me find a copy sooner, I'd
>certainly appreciate it.
>
>Thanks,

Your best bet on finding a copy of Origami Omnibus is your local library. If
they don't have it tell them to get it for you with an inter-library loan. I
was able to get a copy of both Origami Omnibus and Origami for the
Connosuier within a month. I was then able to make a copy of the models that
I liked. If you have any trouble or need anymore information just e-mail me
back.
Ron White
ronew@mindspring.com

"Never underestimate the incredible destructive power of origami"

                                                  Earthworm Jim





Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:10:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: Gail Armstromg <jaelle1@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: A new folder is born!

Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> just wanted to announce the birth of our son Jan Florian. He was
> born on Sunday, 13. July 1997, at 7:27 in the morning (local time).
> Everything went OK, but we're all still rather tired (except for
> our daughter Lea, of course; she slept through the excitement...).
> Well, gotta practice some diaper folds now :-).
>
> Matthias from Bern, Switzerland

Congratulations to your family! May your son be filled with brightness,
his path thru life have only small hills, the wind be always at his back
and fair seas where ever he wanders.

Gail





Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:27:06 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mr & Mrs Owen <djowen@pcl.net>
Subject: Valuable Resource ( or Re: Fluff? Resource? or what?)

I enjoy the friendly debate on this list so I want rekindle some.
Seriously, I am so glad I found you.  Perhaps to you origami is either art
or craft, BUT to me it was a great source of frustration.  While in
Iwakuni, Japan I could send anything my son needed.  Back in CONUS (read
Continental United States) there still local stores where I could buy my
sons supplies from.  After what felt two lifetimes in the Marine Corps I
have been stuck in the deep south.  The bookstores, stationary stores, arts
& crafts, museam shops,  mail order catalogs, & much more were mostly
useless.  Maybe the information passed around is not useful to everyone;
however; if you can not find it - it is very valuable. Information found
through this group in one month has answered questions I've had for four
years.  For instance, origami looks much better made 'origami' vice
wrapping paper, or newspaper.  I think I've babbled enough.  The folder is
my son (he's 13) and now stocked with paper.   I am so glad t o have
stumbled across origami-l.  Thanks for being here.  I will be listening.
 joyceowen@hotmail.com
----------
> From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Subject: Fluff? Resource? or what?
> Date: Saturday, June 28, 1997 11:00 AM
>
> It seems to me the list goes through phases in which
> there are larger proportions of chit-chat, non-origami
> related material (though some of this relates to printing,
> diagraming, preservation etc. so is of interest to *some*
> members). There are also "slow" times, and this is one
> of them, because the OUSA Convention in New York involves
> many of the most active list members.
>
> Tom Hull, David Lister (our list "historian", who writes
> wonderful essays on all aspects of origami) are just a
> couple of members who are at the Convention.
>
> (Convention "reports" will start showing up here Sunday
> night and Monday...)
>
> Also its summer, and the membership of the list tends to
> change as people leave schools and businesses, change
> email addresses or temporarily lose email access. (Though
> this is becoming less common than in the past.)
>
> Also, most of the "graphical" origami action has moved to
> web sites, with the list as the main guide book as members
> post notices about new or changed sites.
>
> Still, there continues to be a lot of substance here:
> book reviews and corrections, help with difficult diagrams,
> discussions about design and new techniques. Personally,
> I've got nearly 15 Mbytes of just the messages that I found
> interesting over the years...
>
> --valerie
> Valerie Vann
> 75070.304@compuserve.com





Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 01:07:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: Helena Verrill <helena@mast.queensu.ca>
Subject: origami tesselations

Hello everyone,

There were a few things I wanted to say/ask.

First, thank you to everyone at the convention; it was
increadible; I learned so much.  People were really
great.  My attitude to origami seems to have expanded;
it's even bigger than I realised!  And I seem to have
been infected with the creative spirit, and my own origami
has been much more creative since I was at the convention.

I also wanted to ask about tesselations, since I've been
doing quite a lot of these.  Mostly I make these up,
with a question like "how can I make a repeating pattern
of this shape", and I end up with things like patterns
of different sized squares in different arrangements, or
I work out how to replace the squares with something else,
for instance flowers, so I get a symmetric repeating pattern
of flowers.  After spending quite a lot of time on this,
I start to wonder "what am I doing?"  I got a bit confused
about whether origami was creative in an artistic way, or
maybe I'm not really creating anything, maybe it's more like
solving a mathematical problem, or discoving something that's
out there waiting to be discovered.  I guess this only really
matters when I want to say things like "I invented this
tesselation", and wonder if I really should say something like
"I stumbled on this tesselation".  If I want to write a web
page on tesselations, and want to put my own tesselations
on it, is that OK, or do I need to check how much they've
been influenced by other designs; since even if I invent
something, it might not be original.

Another question about that was where does the word "tesselations"
come from?  Who coined that terminology to refer to these things?
I've seen them refered to as "crystalographic flat orgamis", and
that seems a far more accurate name to me; but perhaps it's
a bit of a mouthful.

I would like to know what counts as a tesselation, or more
specifically, what counts as a new tesselation - if I make a
tesselation which has the same symmetries another
tesselation, is it really the same tesselation?   There is
obviously something different between a tesselation of flowers and
a tessleation of squares, but I'm getting a bit confused about what!

Would be interesting (to me anyway) to hear other's opinions about
tesselations, and about whether origami is invented or discovered, and to
what extent it's math and what extent art, and what is it?

Anyway, tesselations can be really simple, and a lot of fun, though
I get the impression they are not the most popular thing to fold,
So I'm probably going to do a web page on something like "tesselations
made easy" at some stage.  Would be nice to be able to share them with
more people.  Need to do some more work with them first though.

Helena

helena@mast.queensu.ca





Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 04:57:40 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Bateman A. G." <agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: origami tesselations

Hi Helena,
          It is great to hear that there are more tessellation people
out there :D

> I also wanted to ask about tesselations, since I've been
> doing quite a lot of these.  Mostly I make these up,
> with a question like "how can I make a repeating pattern
> of this shape", and I end up with things like patterns
> of different sized squares in different arrangements, or
> I work out how to replace the squares with something else,
> for instance flowers, so I get a symmetric repeating pattern
> of flowers.  After spending quite a lot of time on this,
> I start to wonder "what am I doing?"  I got a bit confused
> about whether origami was creative in an artistic way, or
> maybe I'm not really creating anything, maybe it's more like
> solving a mathematical problem, or discoving something that's
> out there waiting to be discovered.  I guess this only really
> matters when I want to say things like "I invented this
> tesselation", and wonder if I really should say something like
> "I stumbled on this tesselation".  If I want to write a web
> page on tesselations, and want to put my own tesselations
> on it, is that OK, or do I need to check how much they've
> been influenced by other designs; since even if I invent
> something, it might not be original.

  This is a tough question, and unfortunately really is quite personal.
Firstly I would say that your origami sounds very creative.  Just
because your approach to design is analytical does not lessen your work
artistically IMHO.  I am a scientist who folds paper; I see the
scientific process of hypothesis and experiment as a creative one, not
unlike the way I create tessellations.
  Please do write a web page of your tessellations.  You don't need to
check how much the designs have been influenced by other people.

Bye for now
Alex

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- MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
- agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
- Phone: (01223) 402479
- http://www.mrc-cpe.cam.ac.uk/jong/agb/origami.html





Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 06:30:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: Allen Parry <parry@eskimo.com>
Subject: Convention Memorabilia - Photos and Video

Hello folks.....especially Zachary Brown who
wanted a video of the panel discussion.......

Well......I was Mr Video man / Photographer at
the convention this year.  I took 274 pictures of
the exhibit models using some quality camera
equipment.  I just got the pictures back and they
turned out wonderful.

I also did a video of the Origami designers panel.
The panel was moderated by Jan Polish.  On the
panel were Joseph Wu, Robert Lang, Michael LaFosse,
Jeremy Shafer, Marc Kirschenbaum and John Montroll
discussing the nature of origami design....an interesting
discussion and those who have never met the designers,
interesting to see what they are like.

Anyway, if there is interest, I can see about making
copies.  Copies of the prints could get expensive and I
am not sure what would be the best way to allow you to
select which prints you might want.  If you have any ideas,
let me know.

If you have interest....why don't you e-mail me privately.

Allen Parry
parry@eskimo.com
