




Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 14:01:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Puzzle Ring Cube Solutions (long)

All the email that's been generated by my Puzzle Ring Cube's
unchaperoned visit to Convention97 got me playing around with
it again, (actually in the flat ring version; but solution
and color mappings apply to both versions of the the full
4-ring puzzle.)

Here's an explanation of what I mean by "solutions" of the
4-ring Puzzle:

Physical Solutions - different ways of arranging (overlapping,
nesting) the 4 rings so that they close into a hollow cube.
Physical Solutions do not depend on the coloring of the rings
(though they can be identified that way), or on the turning of
a ring about it's axis. Also depending on what you make the
puzzle of, it may be possible to turn a ring inside out. Since
this is not always possible, it doesn't count as a solution.
Besides, turning a ring inside out may make it impossible
to form a cube at all.

Color Mapping Solutions - different ways of arranging the colors
of the rings on the faces of the cube, and the relation of the
colored faces to the adjacent and opposite faces. Faces can be
1, 2, 3, or 4 colored. The arrangement of these and of the
relationships between the faces depend on the Physical Solution
used, the color mapping of the individual rings, the total number
of colors in the puzzle, and the turning of each ring about it's
axis. The colors on a given face for 3-color faces are also in
different proportions, as 2 are 1/4 of the face and a third is
1/2 of the face. Therefore there are a great many Color Mapping
Solutions, and the degree of symmetry varies.

When I first invented the Puzzle in its simplest form of 4 solid
colored rings, 1 each of 4 colors, I thought there were only 2
Physical Solutions, but suspected there might be others, as the
4 colors did not always seem to be in the same arrangements in the
2 identified physical solutions. When I started making multi-colored
rings, the situation got even more confused, although I was primarily
paying attention to the resulting Color Mapping Solutions.

However, (and these are illustrated in the diagrams on my web pages),
the 4-color Puzzle with solid colored rings has 2 types of Color
Solutions, each associated with one of the identified Physical
Solutions. One of these has 2 4-color faces and 4 2-color faces;
the 4-color faces are opposite, and the rings slant around the
outside of cube in a "regular" way that most resembles the "nesting"
of the jewelry form of puzzle ring. (Type 1 Physical Solution).

The second Color Solution has 6 3-color faces, with the colors in
proportion 1/4, 1/4, 1/2. The position of the colors around the
cube is irregular, with some of the color triangles crossing the
edges of the cube and some not. (Type 2 Physical Solution.)

When the rings themselves are multicolored, the symmetry of the
various color solutions begins to depend on whether the rings are
constructed identically or as mirror images or as permutations,
and the number of colors used.

In the original text explanation of the Puzzle Ring Cube, I posed
the question whether there was a solution for (one or more specific
multi-colored puzzles) in which all the faces of the resulting
cubes are solid colored, that is, one color per face. I left
this, along with the actual construction of the various forms of
the puzzle, as part of the "Puzzle" itself. I will reveal, however,
that I have constructed a puzzle giving such a solution, and I
believe there is probably more than one way to do it.

In the last few days, however, I have been playing with some other
configurations, and one of them led to some intriguing results.

Using a Puzzle with only 2 colors, 2 solid rings of each color,
it becomes apparent that there are actually more than 2 Physical
Solutions, as any changes in the color mapping must result from
the arrangement of the rings, rather than from turning a ring
about its axis to associate different colors on a given face
of the cube.

It now appears that there are 4 Physical Solutions, with 2 each of
these resembling each other in the way the rings are overlapped and
nested. This is more apparent in the 2 color Puzzle because what
looks like the same Physical Solution can have two different color
mappings in which it is very obvious that the rings are arranged in
a different position.

For Example, for the Type 1 Physical Solution (PS) described above,
two color solutions (CS) result:

First, 2 faces with 2 colors arranged in alternating 1/4's,
and 4 faces with 2 colors;

Second, 2 faces that are 1/4's but the colors are
arranged half and half, 2 solid color faces (1 of each color),
and 2 more 2-color faces (with 1/2 face triangles.)

In the latter CS, half of the surface of the cube is
one color in a contiguous area, and half the 2nd color. Opposite
faces are identical.

So this is actually 2 different but similar
physical arrangements of the rings, i.e. 2 Physical Solutions.

For the Type 2 PS described earlier, two different color solutions
reveal that this type is also 2 different but similar Physical
Solutions. In one, half the cube surface is one color, all contiguous,
and the other half the 2nd color, but in two separate areas. The
second solution reverses the relationship. So this is 2
different physical solutions.

Thus, there are at least 4 Physical Solutions to the 4-ring Puzzle.
And, by carefully choosing how one opens the cube to the linked ring
state (Type 1 cubes open at the intersection of a face where all 4
rings intersect; Type 2 cubes open at an apex where 3 rings overlap),
it is possible to smoothly transit between these 4 physical and
(in the case of the 2 color Puzzle) 4 associated color solutions,
with a minimum of manipulation.

Which raises the questions: are there more PS's?? How many CS's ??

That's It Folks (For Now), and if any of you have been bored to
tears by all this, blame it on somebody who propagated the darn
thing all over the Convention and got me thinking about it again
when I should have been working on my geodesics for PCOC.
:-)

--valerie
Valerie_Vann@compuserve.com
Puzzle Ring Cube (An Origami Puzzle)
http://users.aol.com/valerivann/puzzleps.html





Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 14:05:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michel Bartolone <bartolon@execpc.com>
Subject: Discussing rec.arts.origami

As someone else pointed out, there is a discussion going on in news.groups
for formation of rec.arts.origami. So far the discussion is generally
positive. For your chance to make your feelings known, please go to
the usenet news group 'news.groups' and look for "RFD: rec.arts.origami".

If you read the complete "RFD" document, (the first article in the thread)
you will find out the reasons for requesting the formation of the group,
and the group charter.

Michel





Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 17:54:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Updated Puzzle Cube Web pages

I have just made some additions & corrections and
reorganized my web pages about the Puzzle Ring Cube,
which appeared at the OUSA97 Convention and has been
discussed here in the past few days.

The PKZIP file of Postscript diagrams has also been
eliminated, as it was out of date. The diagrams and
explanations are now only available in the form of
a couple of text (online viewable html) files and a
single PDF format file containing all the diagrams
such as they are). The text/html files should also be
saved locally and/or printed for reference.

Please read the text and explanations on the Web Page
before downloading and attempting to use these materials.

Also: if you have obtained the material about the
Puzzle Ring Cube ("Holiday Puzzle") from the origami-L
archive, Alex Bateman's PDF file site, or from my
web pages prior to today 7/8/97, I strongly suggest
you get them again from my web page, in order to have
all the updates and corrections.

--valerie
Valerie_Vann@compuserve.com
 Main/Top home page on AOL
    http://users.aol.com/valerivann/index.html
 Puzzle Ring Cube Page
    http://users.aol.com/valerivann/puzzleps.html





Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 21:45:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Charles Knuffke <knuffke@sirius.com>
Subject: Re: Sharks & lots of legs

Robert J. Lang said,

>
> Note that Marc K also has a 32-legged Canker Worm.
>

Well if he'd just go to the doctor I'm sure a shot of penicillin would take
care of it.

Sorry - couldn't resist ;-)

Regards,

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Charles Knuffke       "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"
San Francisco, CA                              -Jack Kerouac
mailto://knuffke@sirius.com

Check out the Pacific Coast Origami Conference Website at:
http://www.sirius.com/~knuffke/PCOC.html





Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 23:26:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@brown.edu>
Subject: Re: Are complex models sculpturesque?

>And I think the complex origami design world has gone through a similar
>evolution. Once we have the ability to get realistic or anatomically correct,
>we can then make the artistic choice of what to put in or leave out, what to
>exaggerate or minimize. I know of no origami designer these days capable of
>complex models who strives purely for "realism" -- all modify that goal for
>aesthetic reasons, whether to make the subject more foldable, or to have
>cleaner lines, or simply because having a simpler model is in itself
>desirable.
>
>In every artistic medium, the medium prevents the artist from achieving total
>realism. Origami is more restrictive than many, but watercolor, scratchboard,
>or bronze are also very limiting media. The pieces that I consider the most
>artistic are the ones that don't try to directly overpower these limitations,
>but that work with them so you can simultaneously see the subject and the
>brushstrokes, with neither overpowering the other. The broad field of
>wildlife art provides many examples of how other artists deal with the
>limitations of their media, examples which one can use in origami.
>
>Robert J. Lang
>rjlang@aol.com
        I would like to congratulate Robert Lang in arriving at a stage in
which realism or complexity is no longer the sole goal.  Kosho Uchiyama
admonished folders not to waste material or use excessive force (muri).  It
is not only the number of legs of a centipede one can fold into a square
piece of paper, but also the impression it makes on observers sensitive to
its artistic merit.  Akira Yoshizawa, who claims to strive for realism and
in the process pushes the paper around quite a bit, still creates figures
which are   relaively simple oveall and not truly realistic or complex,
except perhaps for some small details.
James M. Sakoda, origami dollar bill foldings in pdf form:
http://idt.net/~kittyv





Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 02:29:13 -0300 (ADT)
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@ihug.co.nz>
Subject: Away...

I have to be at a conference away from home for the next four days. If
anybody sends mail to me and doesn't get a reply for a few days, don't
worry. I'll be back on the weekend and reply.

New fold on my website... I am working on getting the quality of scans
increased but keeping the filesize down. I was wondering what others did
for their sites. I scanned this set of images at about 100dpi 256greyscale,
ended up with an image of about 800k per page. Then I took the .TIF and
reduced colours to 2, then saved as a .GIF - this reduced the size to about
30k

But I'm not happy with the quality. How about some ideas please.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Laurie Bisman    lbisman@ihug.co.nz
Web page          http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~lbisman/index.html
Company           http://www.addlink.ac.nz/Home.htm





Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 11:27:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@erols.com>
Subject: [OT] Re: Away... GIF or JPEG

Laurie Bisman wrote:
>
> New fold on my website... I am working on getting the quality of scans
> increased but keeping the filesize down. I was wondering what others did
> for their sites. I scanned this set of images at about 100dpi 256greyscale,
> ended up with an image of about 800k per page. Then I took the .TIF and
> reduced colours to 2, then saved as a .GIF - this reduced the size to about
> 30k
>

GIF compression works better for sketched graphics, cartoons, line-arts;
JPEG are good for photographs and continuous tone artworks; It depends
on what you are going to present in your web site.

There is no need to use 24-bit graphics since many viewers on the web do
not have the ability (software/hardware) to see it.

Good luck!

|------------------------------------------------------\
|  _     Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) <chens@asme.org>     |\
| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\





Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 11:29:14 -0300 (ADT)
From: Daddy-o D'gou <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Found: "OftC Rose!"

After posting about the "rose conspirancy" I happened to look at the
mess on my origami desk, which still needs to be tidied up
post-NYC-Convention-madness.  And I happened to see the June '97 issue
of the NOA magazine, which has, low and bee grasp, the "old"/OftC rose
on the cover, and diagrams on the inside.  I didn't look to see if they
were exactly the same as the OftC diagrams, but the model is the same.
You can get NOA's through Sasuga (no affiliation except as happy
customer).  You can get there from Joseph's page if you haven't got it
bookmarked already.

-D'gou





Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 11:44:43 -0300 (ADT)
From: Brett Askinazi <brett@hagerhinge.com>
Subject: RE: Kawahata's Dinosaurs.

I have Dinosaur Origami 1 and 2.  Also excuse my DINO TYPOS, paleontologist
I am NOT! ! !

Here is a brief overview (from memory).

Dino 1 contains about 10-15 models in the intermediate to high intermediate
range (this is an opinion).

It has Ichthyostega, apatasaurs, stegosaurs (2 sheets), deinonychus (hard
to stand up), pterodactyl (2 sheets), tyrannosaur (2 sheets and yes it has
3 teeth), ichthyosaur, triceratops (2 sheets), monoclonius (2 sheets),
styracosaur (2 sheets), elasmosaur, brachiosaur, hmm cant remember the
rest.

Dino 2 contains about 10 models in the same difficulty range only, most of
the Dinos are from one sheet of paper,

It has mamenchiasaur, tapejara (kinda like a pterodactyl, nice),
dilophasaurus (2 sheets), protoceratops, dimetrodon (my favorite),
parasauralophus (I know I butchered this one !), some kinda thing that
looks like an alligator (kinda), spinosaurus (flat), hmm cant remember the
rest on this one either, its kind of a new book for me.

Dino 2 contains a few models which are VERY SIMILAR in design to Origami
Fantasy, only leaving out highly complex sinks and 3d molding, but giving
the same ESSENTIAL shape of the dino itself.

I recommend both books to anyone interested it KAWAHATA'S work, for 2
reasons.

1. I think that KAWAHATA is a fabulous creator and it is interesting to
look at ALL of his work rather than a few pieces, to get a really good feel
for what it is that he can do.

2. They are good intermediate books, the models are somewhat challenging
(for the intermediate) and attainable by mere mortals in a fraction of the
time necessary for ORIGAMI FANTASY models.

3. There is always a three.

Any more questions I can look up for you (at home, so give me time to get
home tonight).
Ask askinazi@i1.net

Cya

Brett

-----Original Message-----
From:   Jamaro@aol.com [SMTP:Jamaro@aol.com]
Sent:   Friday, July 04, 1997 2:45 AM
To:     Multiple recipients of list
Subject:        Re: Kawahata's Dinosaurs.

I came in a little late, however, I recently bought a bood by Fumiaki
Kawahata entitled "I Love Origami; Origami Fantasy" .  It is in Japanese,
with a few titles in English.  He has quite a few dinosaurs in it, all
beautify, complex, and lifelike.  The T-rex is on the cover, and it does
have
teeth!  (I counted eight teeth) All from one piece of paper, no cutting.





Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 12:08:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Goveia, William P" <wgoveia@indiana.edu>
Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Away... GIF or JPEG

It's  important to realize that monitors (even the most expensive) can
only really display 72 dots per inch.  You could squeeze yours a little
more by going to 72 DPI.  256 color/grayscale seems to be a happy
medium, since many of us don't have super-mega-high-end video cards or
monitors with which to view...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) [SMTP:sychen@erols.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 1997 9:29 AM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:      [OT] Re: Away... GIF or JPEG
>
> Laurie Bisman wrote:
> >
> > New fold on my website... I am working on getting the quality of
> scans
> > increased but keeping the filesize down. I was wondering what others
> did
> > for their sites. I scanned this set of images at about 100dpi
> 256greyscale,
> |----------------- [William P. Goveia:]  SNIP





Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 18:14:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kim Best <kim.best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: OUSA Con, Report from a first timer.

Joseph Wu wrote:

> Good to know you had a good time, Kim! And the little boy you refer to
> is
> Gus Black, 6-years-old with an innate understanding of spacial
> geometry
> (although he doesn't know the terminology yet). Watch out for him,
> he's
> going to be great!  ;)

Thanks for reminding me.

On the night Gus stayed up with us, John Montroll was quizing him on
some math problems like, squaring numbers and taking square roots.
Finally John gave him the following poser: "What is the square root of
minus one?"

Gus looked stumped for awhile.  Then John whispered in his hear.  Gus
let this information digest for a while then finally blurted out.  "Your
not the square root of minus one!"

Well Ok, Gus didn't really make that last remark.  But the rest of it is
true, and it does make a good story.

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 19:43:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mike and Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: origami sighting in Nat. Geographic

DORIGAMI@aol.com wrote:
>
> I have found an interesting Origami Sighting in the new National Geographic.
>  It is on one whole page and has three 5 pointed stars on it.  I have an idea
> that John Montroll might have made them since he lives in that area.  If not
> I wonder who did them.  Dorigami

Dorothy,

What month's issue of National Geographic was this in?  I didn't see the
ad in my latest copy, but I did come across an ad that sounds like the
one you are describing in the July 1997 issue of Smithsonian.  The ad is
for Arthur Anderson, and the stars are made of paper money from various
countries.  I can identify the following: Canada, Uruguay, Hungary, USA,
Japan, Ecuador.

Janet Hamilton

--
mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj/





Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 19:54:19 -0300 (ADT)
From: Allen Parry <parry@eskimo.com>
Subject: OUSA Convention '97

Convention goers....

It has come to my attention that we owe a special thanks to Annelore Jekel.
 It seems she personally sponsored the airfare, housing and convention fees
for most of the Latin contingent.  She sponsored Susana Arashiro of
Argentina, Mari Kanegae from Brazil, Carlos and Alida Valdivia from Peru,
and last but not least, Vicente Palacios and his son from Spain.

With the attendence of Yoshizawa these guest were overshadowed but brought
a valuable presence to the convention.
I personally came away with some great treasures I learned from
them.....I've been having a blast with his Smith-Corona Typewritter and the
whistle.

Anyway, I don't think Annelore is on the net and I would think it would be
nice if some of you, who benifited from her contribution, would join me in
dropping her a note of thanks for her generousity.

Her address is Annelore Jekel  900 Bay Drive #101  Miami Beach, FL  33141

Allen Parry
parry@eskimo.com





Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 22:05:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jeff Goff <jmgoff@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: NORM: PDF format

At 05:29 PM 7/4/97 -0300, you wrote:
>> > whatever it is called then you can read PDF files regardless of
>> > whether you are using a MAC, Windows, DOS, or UNIX.
>>                                                 ^^^^ No. The Unix port of
>> Acrobat Reader is for SunOS/Solaris, and it also (IIRC) requires Motif to
>> run. For me, using Linux, this is no solution at all. (It might run using
>> iBCS, but this would still require me to buy Motif, which is about $170.)
>Sorry. All I did was quote the above from the documentation that is
>in my copy of Acrobat :-)

Actually, Acrobat Reader *is* available for Linux, at least the last time I
checked.
I downloaded a copy of it last month. Inasmuch as I haven't installed it
yet, I'm not sure if it requires Motif. If anyone is interested, I can check
the README file.

>---
>ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
>sheldon_ackerman@fc1.nycenet.edu
>http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman
-Jeff <jmgoff@concentric.net>





Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 22:34:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@brown.edu>
Subject: Re: Away...

>I have to be at a conference away from home for the next four days. If
>anybody sends mail to me and doesn't get a reply for a few days, don't
>worry. I'll be back on the weekend and reply.
>
>New fold on my website... I am working on getting the quality of scans
>increased but keeping the filesize down. I was wondering what others did
>for their sites. I scanned this set of images at about 100dpi 256greyscale,
>ended up with an image of about 800k per page. Then I took the .TIF and
>reduced colours to 2, then saved as a .GIF - this reduced the size to about
>30k
>
>But I'm not happy with the quality. How about some ideas please.
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Laurie Bisman    lbisman@ihug.co.nz
>Web page          http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~lbisman/index.html
>Company           http://www.addlink.ac.nz/Home.htm
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

     The real solution to the improvement of scanned images in terms of
accuracy and file size is to use pdf whidh treats text  and line drawings
accurately and concisely, leaving only pictures to be handled as dots.
Even for that there are programs to transform them into lines, such as
Adobe's streamline.  On the horizon are progrmas that Adobe has notified
registered buyers of the Adobe Acrobat 3.0 programs that they will be sent
programs to transform scanned files to pdf.  I will be reporting its
effectiveness when I get the package.  If it lives up to its stated goal it
will be worthwhile for producers of documents for home pages to invest in
Adobe Acrobat 3.0.  For viewers of pdf pages Acrobat Reader 3.0 can be
downloaded free of charge to read or print out your home page output.
James M. Sakoda, origami dollar bill foldings in pdf form:
http://idt.net/~kittyv





Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 05:20:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: HOLMES DAVID MARCUS EXC CH <david_marcus.holmes@chbs.mhs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: OUSA Convention '97

>> It has come to my attention that we owe a special thanks to Annelore Jekel.
>>  It seems she personally sponsored the airfare, housing and convention fees
>> for most of the Latin contingent.  She sponsored Susana Arashiro of
>> Argentina, Mari Kanegae from Brazil, Carlos and Alida Valdivia from Peru,
>> and last but not least, Vicente Palacios and his son from Spain.
>>
>> With the attendence of Yoshizawa these guest were overshadowed but brought
>> a valuable presence to the convention.
>> I personally came away with some great treasures I learned from
>> them.....I've been having a blast with his Smith-Corona Typewritter and the
>> whistle.
>
>> Allen Parry

Does anyone know if the diagrams for Vicente Palacios' Whistle are
in the Convention Annual?  Or did anyone draw their own diagrams?

Dave

>--
>David M Foulds       | Novartis, Inc. Views expressed are my own
>dmfoulds@bigfoot.com `------------------------------------------
>Dave's Origami - http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/
>Other Stuff    - http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/clarke/25/
>
>Please note my change of surname and email address, current name
>in header fields notwithstanding.





Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 07:35:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: The Aronson's <aronson5@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: The Latin Contingent at Convention'97

Yes Allen...

Susana Arashiro is a charming woman who added much to this convention.  Her
class was one of the highlights for me.  She taught a simple bird (in
Spanish with Ms. Jekel translating) and in the remaining time taught an
adorable two-piece "Smurf" - also shared her sample books of origami
teaching models which include simple, but elegant folds.

She then gave out pre-printed pieces of paper (with mountains and valleys
identified) and challenged the class to fold it and then show it to her
later to receive a gift.  The only hint was that you could fold this
particular fold in red at Christmas.  After some frenzied folding it became
obvious that this clever little fold could be Santa's boot and when we
brought it over to her she carefully opened the boot, put in a beautiful
foil-wrapped piece of Argentinian milk chocolate and re-folded it, offering
it back with a smile.  What a lovely woman - she has so much to offer. She
also gave the class her card - and several of us hope to correspond with
her - we will certainly encourage her to come back next year!!

Great idea Allen - I will certainly write and thank Ms. Jekel for bringing
us these lovely people who added so much to Convention '97- it was my 11th
- and one of the best.  I would love to see Mr. Palaciios' typewriter - the
whistle is wonderful!!  (And it works!)

Ellen Aronson





Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 10:34:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: The Latin Contingent at Convention'97

Ellen wrote:

+- and one of the best.  I would love to see Mr. Palaciios' typewriter - the
+whistle is wonderful!!  (And it works!)

I put a text-only description of the typewriter in my convention report.
While it vaguely looks like a typewriter, it is the sound it makes on a hard
surface which is the mechanical typewriter effect.

-Doug





Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 11:27:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: origami sighting in latest Smithsonian

Sorry, my mistake, the Origami Star page was in the latest Smithsonian
Magazine. Still wondering who folded the stars. Anyone know?  Dorigami





Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 21:16:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: Leonardo A Helman <lhelman@giga.com.ar>
Subject: Re: NORM: PDF format

origami-l@nstn.ca wrote:
>
> Actually, Acrobat Reader *is* available for Linux, at least the last time I
> checked.
> I downloaded a copy of it last month. Inasmuch as I haven't installed it
> yet, I'm not sure if it requires Motif. If anyone is interested, I can check
> the README file.

Actually, I'm using the PDF for Linux, but, personally, I prefer the
ghostcript.

Leonardo Helman





Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 23:42:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net>
Subject: Re: PDF format

Leonardo A Helman wrote:
> Actually, I'm using the PDF for Linux, but, personally, I prefer the
> ghostcript.

I thought ghostscript was strictly for postscript files.
Perry
--
>From pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net

***************************************
* Your Life is only what you make it. *
* so make it good. :?)'               *





Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 05:03:33 -0300 (ADT)
From: DMAWolf@aol.com
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI SIGHTINGS

Hi all
Origami sightings are everywhere--a dollar bill folds itself into a car, I
missed cars name but will post if I catch it again unless someone else caught
it.  The interesting one is on Soap Opera General Hospital they currently
have a murder mystery and today they showed a frog out of silver foil held by
unknown person and the private detective said to another person that a fold
gum wrapper was found at the murder scene.  Of course this tells everyone
that I fold with the soaps on.
  I talked to Bren at Fascinating Folds at the Convention and she said she
will have A4 templates ready within a week and they will be about $13.  For
us Americans this will be a great help when the start is A4 paper. She said
to email if it is not on her sight when you look for it.
  My big regret of the convention is two fold-- 1    I can't stay up for days
on end anymore and that I didn't get to meet some of the foreign visitors
until Monday evening.
  Oh well there is alway San Francisco in Nov.
Diana Wolf
An older, bolder, folder.





Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 08:40:12 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marcia Mau <marcia.mau@pressroom.com>
Subject: Whistle Diagrams

There are diagrams by Vicente Palacios of a Whistle (Strengthened Version)
by Angel Ecija on pg 270 in the BOS London '92 25th Anniversary Convention book.
Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA
marcia.mau@pressroom.com





Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 09:00:10 -0300 (ADT)
From: HOLMES DAVID MARCUS EXC CH <david_marcus.holmes@chbs.mhs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: Whistle Diagrams

>> There are diagrams by Vicente Palacios of a Whistle (Strengthened Version)
>> by Angel Ecija on pg 270 in the BOS London '92 25th Anniversary Convention
>>book.
>> Marcia Mau
>> Vienna, VA USA
>> marcia.mau@pressroom.com

Thanks for that info.  Does anyone else from the BOS (Richard, Penny ?)
know whether this is still available.  If so, I'll probably get a copy
in York.

Dave

>--
>David M Foulds       | Novartis, Inc. Views expressed are my own
>dmfoulds@bigfoot.com `------------------------------------------
>Dave's Origami - http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/
>Other Stuff    - http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/clarke/25/
>
>Please note my change of surname and email address, current name
>in header fields notwithstanding.





Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 09:40:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Metzger, Jacob" <JMetzger@citgroup.com>
Subject: Origami sighting on General Hospital

Origami Sighting Alert!

My wife tells me that origami plays a major part in the current plot for
General Hospital (a daytime soap opera on American TV). It seems that a
character makes origami frogs from foil gum wrappers, and _GASP_ an
origami frog was dropped at the scene of a murder! That's all the info I
have, if anyone has more, please enlighten us.

Yaacov Metzger
jmetzger@citgroup.com





Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 11:05:10 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@erols.com>
Subject: [OT] Re: PDF format

Perry Bailey wrote:
>
> Leonardo A Helman wrote:
> > Actually, I'm using the PDF for Linux, but, personally, I prefer the
> > ghostcript.
>
> I thought ghostscript was strictly for postscript files.

GhostScript can handle the newest PDF format 1.2 (Acrobat 3.0),
including CFF (compressed embedded) fonts. I have tried it to print/view
James Sakoda's $ diagram without problem. It could be an alternative for
linux users.

I also tried converting some of my postscript diagrams using Ghostscript
5.01. Most of output pdf files (from Ghostscript 5.01) are still larger
than the original ps files and even larger than the pdf files generated
from old Ghostscript 4.03. :-(

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| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\





Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 14:30:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: "margery.webb" <Margery.Webb@asu.edu>
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI SIGHTINGS

The mysterious villian left his "silver crane" calling card on General
Hospital soap opera Tues, 8th July!





Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 18:36:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: Bill & Bev Froyen - Freedom Art & Design <luv2cree8@texoma.net>
Subject: Re: Post Script format

Hi Everybody -

I'm new to this list and this is my first post...hope it gets
through.  I've found some origami info that is in post script format
and I've downloaded and installed RoPS to view the files, but I'm not
having very good luck with RoPS...keep getting different errors.

Is there another program that I can get to view Post Script files?
If so, what is the name of the program and what is the URL where the
program can be found?  (I use Win95)

TIA!
 - Love,  Bev   (The Colorado Kid in North Texas)

                    /"\----/"\
                    \/ o  o \/
                     |  qp  |
                      \ /\ /
                      [[><]]

* Chaos is a sign of creativity...and I luv2cree8! * <ggg>





Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 21:28:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mike and Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Origami sighting on General Hospital

Metzger, Jacob wrote:
>
> Origami Sighting Alert!
>
> My wife tells me that origami plays a major part in the current plot for
> General Hospital (a daytime soap opera on American TV). It seems that a
> character makes origami frogs from foil gum wrappers, and _GASP_ an
> origami frog was dropped at the scene of a murder! That's all the info I
> have, if anyone has more, please enlighten us.

Wow!  Three people caught the General Hospital sighting.  I didn't know
that was such a popular show.

Janet Hamilton

--
mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj/





Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 23:51:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Post Script format

Bill & Bev Froyen - Freedom Art & Design wrote:
>
> Hi Everybody -
>
> I'm new to this list and this is my first post...hope it gets
> through.  I've found some origami info that is in post script format
> and I've downloaded and installed RoPS to view the files, but I'm not
> having very good luck with RoPS...keep getting different errors.
>
> Is there another program that I can get to view Post Script files?
> If so, what is the name of the program and what is the URL where the
> program can be found?  (I use Win95)
>

Welcome to Origami-L.
You may try GhostScript, which can be downloaded from
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html
Mail me privately if you need further help for installation and usage.
BTW 'PostScript' is in one word!

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| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\





Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 23:55:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Yaacov Metzger <origami@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: New Book by Michael LaFosse

To all -

I was browsing in my local Barnes & Noble and was excited to discover a new
book by Michael Lafosse - as far as I knew, he only has produced origami
videos. The large-size book, "Paper Boxes" was beautifuly presented with
full-color photographs. However, after eagerly opening the book, I was
surprised and disappointed to discover that of the 8 boxes in the book, 7
were of the template/cutout/tabs/glue variety. The 8th, "Lotus Box", made
from 3 squares (2 sizes), did look interesting, though... In summary, it's
a very nice book, but not much origami.

Here is some info from Amazon.com:

Paper Boxes (Make It With Paper)
by Michael G. Lafosse

Paperback, 114 pages
Published by Rockport Pub
Publication date: March 1, 1997
Dimensions (in inches): 11.05 x 8.58 x .42
ISBN: 1564962776
List: $19.99 ~ Our Price: $15.99 ~ You Save: $4.00 (20%)
Availability: This item usually ships within 2-3 days.

There was no info about it on Michael's www.origamido.com site.
If anyone else has more info...

Yaacov Metzger

jmetzger@citgroup.com
origami@worldnet.att.net





Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:42:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: New Book by Michael LaFosse

<<Paper Boxes (Make It With Paper)
<<by Michael G. Lafosse

I believe there is (or has been announced) a series
of these books, and no it's not origami, but they
are pretty darn neat paper boxes, for those who are
into paper arts & crafts in the broader sense.
(I like paper sculptures, and pop-up books, and
lots of other kinds of paper things...)

--valerie





Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:42:36 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Post Script format

Hi Bev & welcome to the fold...

If you let us know where on the web you found the
postscript files, we can tell you if it is also
available in Adobe Acrobat Reader PDF file format,
which you might find easier to use with Win95
(Reader is available for free download from
Adobe's web site and is fully supported,
professional software.)

If the postscript files you found are not available
somewhere as PDF files, then (with the file owner's
permission) one of us can go get them and convert them
to PDF format for you, as several of us have access
to PDF.

As Sy Chen has written, there are some other ways to
do this, such as Ghostscript, but if you're not into
the techie kind of stuff at all, Acrobat Reader is
the most painless solution available for free and the
easiest to install and use.

--valerie
Valerie_Vann@compuserve.com
Mostly Modular/Geometric Origami Web Pages:
    http://people.delphi.com/vvann/index.html
    http://members.aol.com/valerivann/index.html





Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:28:14 -0300 (ADT)
From: jtweres@lucent.com
Subject: Re: Origami sighting on General Hospital

Janet Hamilton wrote:

>Metzger, Jacob wrote:
>>
>> Origami Sighting Alert!
>>
>> My wife tells me that origami plays a major part in the current plot for
>> General Hospital (a daytime soap opera on American TV). It seems that a
>> character makes origami frogs from foil gum wrappers, and _GASP_ an
>> origami frog was dropped at the scene of a murder! That's all the info I
>> have, if anyone has more, please enlighten us.
>
>Wow!  Three people caught the General Hospital sighting.  I didn't know
>that was such a popular show.

when i graduated college about 13 years ago
i didn't have a job lined up
and the entire summer
from noon to 3pm
was spent watching the ABC soap operas

General Hospital was the first soap opera
that i quit watching
because they IMHO got a little nutty
when they did that whole "Ice-Princess" story line
-- you know
   the "REALLY BELIEVABLE" story line

as if
most of the story lines are believable on soaps

anyway
      i finally did get a daytime job
      and no longer watch the soaps
      although my wife does update me on "All My Children"

  /-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-///plieur de papier\\\-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\
 /=-= jack thomas weres                         jtweres@lucent.com =-=\
/=======================\\\================///=========================\
"Let Go and Let Fold"                             "One Crease At A Time"





Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:52:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: Bill & Bev Froyen - Freedom Art & Design <luv2cree8@texoma.net>
Subject: Re: Post Script format

Hi Valerie & Thanks for responding to my post.

The URL I was trying to view the diagrams at was
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami/
(Joseph Wu's web site.)

I went to the Ghostscript web site, but was confused about which item
I needed to download and install.  Seems to be many.  (No, I'm not a
techy person...in fact rather new at all of this!  <ggg>)  I do have
Adobe Acrobat Reader, so those files are no problem.
***********************************************
> Hi Bev & welcome to the fold...
>
> If you let us know where on the web you found the
> postscript files, we can tell you if it is also
> available in Adobe Acrobat Reader PDF file format,
> which you might find easier to use with Win95
> (Reader is available for free download from
> Adobe's web site and is fully supported,
> professional software.)
>
> If the postscript files you found are not available
> somewhere as PDF files, then (with the file owner's
> permission) one of us can go get them and convert them
> to PDF format for you, as several of us have access
> to the "big" (non-free) software that converts Postscript
> to PDF.
>
> As Sy Chen has written, there are some other ways to
> do this, such as Ghostscript, but if you're not into
> the techie kind of stuff at all, Acrobat Reader is
> the most painless solution available for free and the
> easiest to install and use.
>
> --valerie
> Valerie_Vann@compuserve.com
> Mostly Modular/Geometric Origami Web Pages:
>     http://people.delphi.com/vvann/index.html
>     http://members.aol.com/valerivann/index.html
*************************************************
BTW, I visited your web site above and found some beautiful origami!
I've been into origami for about 10 years now, but mostly basic
stuff...lots of cranes & boxes, etc.  You guys on this list are
really into fantastic stuff!!!

 - Love,  Bev   (The Colorado Kid in North Texas)

                    /"\----/"\
                    \/ o  o \/
                     |  qp  |
                      \ /\ /
                      [[><]]

* Chaos is a sign of creativity...and I luv2cree8! * <ggg>





Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:27:51 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Whistle Diagrams

HOLMES DAVID MARCUS EXC CH <david_marcus.holmes@chbs.mhs.ciba.com> sez

>Thanks for that info.  Does anyone else from the BOS (Richard, Penny ?)
>know whether this is still available.  If so, I'll probably get a copy
>in York.

We have a few left ;)

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with real Audio clips!





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:41:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Post Script format

Bill & Bev Froyen - Freedom Art & Design wrote:
> The URL I was trying to view the diagrams at was
> http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami/
> (Joseph Wu's web site.)
> Most of the diagrams there do have pdf format available. Check Alex Barber's
site:
http://www.the-village.com/origami/diagram.html

Let us know if you find any other postscript files.
We can do something about it.

|------------------------------------------------------\
|  _     Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) <chens@asme.org>     |\
| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:43:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: Andres Fructuoso Garcia <fructuoso@mx2.redestb.es>
Subject: Re: "Secrets of Origami" hardback available

Jerry D. Harris wrote:
>
> >If anyone is interested in the hardback "Secrets of Origami" by
> >Harbin, send me a note. I'll send the bookstore details to the first
> >person who asks for them. The price in the catalog is $10 plus $3
> >shipping.
>
> If no one else has asked, I'd be very interested! Thanks!
>
>                 _,_
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> --____-===(  _\/                         \\/ \-----_---__
>            /\  '                        ^__/>/\____\--------
> __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
>
> Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
> Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  768-2701
> Southern Methodist University
> Box 750395                            jdharris@post.smu.edu
> Dallas  TX  75275-0395                (Compuserve:  102354,2222)
>
> "Science _does_ have all the answers -- we just don't have all
> the science."
>                         -- James MorrowIM INTEREST, PLEASE, SEND MI A E-MAIL
     TO:  fructuoso@mx2.redestb.es and
 say me how I can send you the money and where.
Pardon. my english is very poor , my idiom is spanish.I PROMIS YOU STUDY
MORE.
THANKS.
ANDRES .   GRANADA.    SPAIN





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:49:14 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Post Script, Joseph Wu's web pages

Ok, Bev,

Joseph Wu's site is what I call the
"Mother Ship (Page) of the Origami Nation",
but the Postscript diagrams are probably Joseph's
own designs; unless you got them from one of the
many pages linked from Joseph's page without
realizing that you had wandered off somewhere else.

So 3 things are needed:

1. Knowing specifically the file names that you
downloaded.

2. Asking Joseph (who is a member of the origami-L
list of course) via his email address on his web
page, whether the files are available in PDF form
somewhere else.

3. If the files are not already in PDF somewhere,
then do we have his permission to make PDF files
of them for you?

The program that makes PDF files allows you to
put a sort of electronic document "library card"
in the PDF file, giving the author and other
information. When I make PDF files for others,
I try to fill all that out. I also would want
the PDF form.

Just by way of information: All the files, documents
and photos on people's web pages are copyrighted
materials whether the author or artist states so or
not, at least under USA law. One can download or use
them, but making a PDF file from a Postscript file
is reproducing or translating a document, and requires
the owners permission. (It is also considered good
manners by the Origami Nation :-)

Joseph will probably pick up on this message now, since
I changed the subject line, so we will probably get
a clarification shortly, though we still need to know
what specific files or designs you are interested in.

--valerie
Valerie_Vann@compuserve.com





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:50:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Whistle & Typewriter diagrams

David Foulds wrote:

> Does anyone know if the diagrams for Vicente Palacios' Whistle are
> in the Convention Annual?  Or did anyone draw their own diagrams?

Diagrams for the whistle (and the "typewriter" that was also popular at the
convention) are to be found in Tomoko Fuse's book of toys & action figures.

Robert





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:50:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: origami.net

Well, origami.net has its first tenant: me. "Joseph Wu's Origami Page" is now
up and (mostly) running at origami.net. You'll find a link to it on the front
page at <http://www.origami.net> or you can visit it directly at
<http://www.origami.net/homes/jwu>. More photos are on the way, as well as a
totally re-vamped look. Enjoy!

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:51:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: always <a6971@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Origami sighting

I was watching "Reading Rainbow" on Public TV with my daughter
yesterday. Yesterday's program was about Japanese culture and they
showed people folding Origami models in the program. They also
introduced a book called Easy Origami but the author wasn't anyone I
know. His first name seems like "Dokutei". Does anybody know about him?
                                             Kelly





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:52:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: DMAWolf@aol.com
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI-L digest 781

Hi All,
  The diagrams for the whistle are in
 Papiroflexia facil by Vicente Palacios
ISBN 84-7210-776-0
I purchased it from the OUSA supply center
   I was lucky enough to take his class and couldn't get a sound out until he
came by and made a minor adjustment and wow did it work.  The secret is in
rounding out the mouth opening then adjusting the chamber up and down to get
the right angle.
Hope this helps the whistle folks.
  Also an interesting book is Origami Tea bag folding by  Zsuzanna
Kricskovics of Hungry  Fascinating Folds has copies available.  No I don't
work for them I just check out their site often.
  The author was in NYC for the convention and has sent us her newsletter for
several years.  She and her group of folders are very inventive and create
some wonderful pieces.  Worth checking out.  She uses wrappers from tea bags
printed with flowers ect to make modulars.  Her letters always have a new one
to test us.
 Well back to the bugs I'm folding
Diana Wolf
An older bolder folder





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:14:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@ahand.unicamp.br>
Subject: Re: Origami sighting

Dokuohtei Nakano contributed to making origami popular in Japan, about
the same time Honda's book presented Japanese-style origami in the West.
I think Nakano-san wrote an origami course *by mail*.

Need time for a deeper reference, though.





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:54:02 -0300 (ADT)
From: June Beighley <beighley@pps.pgh.pa.us>
Subject: Reading Rainbow

I own a copy of "Easy Origami" by Dokuohtei Nakano.  Translated by Eric
Kenneway. Puffin Books, 1994  ISBN 0-14-036525-7.  Originally published as
"Origamikan-1: Yasashii Origami" by Takahashi Shoten, 1981.  It contains
toys, useful origami and modulars.  All are simple, some require glue.
There is also an interesting section of "Musical Models" which are
supposed to be folded in time to music.  Songs were included in the
original Japanese edition.

Dokuohtei Nakano was a teacher in Japan who started teaching origami to
his art students.  He also introduced an origami correspondence course.
Was was profiled in 1972 in "The Origamian."  He established the Origami
Castle in Tokyo.

June

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, always wrote:

> I was watching "Reading Rainbow" on Public TV with my daughter
> yesterday. Yesterday's program was about Japanese culture and they
> showed people folding Origami models in the program. They also
> introduced a book called Easy Origami but the author wasn't anyone I
> know. His first name seems like "Dokutei". Does anybody know about him?
>                                              Kelly





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:55:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: kleimola@unlinfo.unl.edu (ann kleimola)
Subject: Re: Address

Dear Sergei,

I have a chance to get a small packet mailed to you from Moscow, so I
want to make sure I have the right address.  I am sending a couple
packages of origami paper (fortunately, paper packets are small enough
to fit into luggage without causing space problems).  Where would you
like it sent?  And what is the Russian abbreviation for "P.O. Box"?
We read literature in class instead of learning useful things of that
sort.

Again, thank you (and your wife) for your designs.  While I was at the
workshop at the University of Illinois, I made dogs and cats from your
booklet.  One of my colleagues just acquired a beagle puppy for his
children, and was delighted with the origami counterpart.

Do you know a model called "botik Petra Velikogo"?  The husband of one
of the Slavic librarians learned the model when he was a child in
Russia (it is the only origami model he knows, and Iuliia claims we
are the first people who ever appreciated his skill).  He made one for
us, and it resembles the junk in your boat book, but it is more
complicated.  Next summer he is supposed to teach us how to fold it.

I hope all is well with you and that you have not overwhelmed yourself
with projects.

Cheers!
Ann





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:05:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robert Brandin <Rabbart@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Address

I don't know what you are talking about. I am a 12 year old in Colorado
named Robert Brandin. If I may help you in locating this person please tell
me.

----------
> From: ann kleimola <kleimola@unlinfo.unl.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Subject: Re: Address
> Date: Friday, July 11, 1997 9:56 AM
>
> Dear Sergei,
>
> I have a chance to get a small packet mailed to you from Moscow, so I
> want to make sure I have the right address.  I am sending a couple
> packages of origami paper (fortunately, paper packets are small enough
> to fit into luggage without causing space problems).  Where would you
> like it sent?  And what is the Russian abbreviation for "P.O. Box"?
> We read literature in class instead of learning useful things of that
> sort.
>
> Again, thank you (and your wife) for your designs.  While I was at the
> workshop at the University of Illinois, I made dogs and cats from your
> booklet.  One of my colleagues just acquired a beagle puppy for his
> children, and was delighted with the origami counterpart.
>
> Do you know a model called "botik Petra Velikogo"?  The husband of one
> of the Slavic librarians learned the model when he was a child in
> Russia (it is the only origami model he knows, and Iuliia claims we
> are the first people who ever appreciated his skill).  He made one for
> us, and it resembles the junk in your boat book, but it is more
> complicated.  Next summer he is supposed to teach us how to fold it.
>
> I hope all is well with you and that you have not overwhelmed yourself
> with projects.
>
> Cheers!
> Ann





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:15:59 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI-L digest 781

Diana,

At 10.52 11/7/1997 -0300, you wrote:

>  Also an interesting book is Origami Tea bag folding by  Zsuzanna
>Kricskovics of Hungry  Fascinating Folds has copies available.
                ^^^^^^

For Origami Tea bags, I think Thirsty Fascinating Folds would be more
appropriate... :-D :-D

Roberto





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:12:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Post Script, Joseph Wu's web pages

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Valerie Vann wrote:

=Joseph Wu's site is what I call the "Mother Ship (Page) of the Origami
=Nation", but the Postscript diagrams are probably Joseph's own designs;
=unless you got them from one of the many pages linked from Joseph's page
=without realizing that you had wandered off somewhere else.

Nope. I've got a (fairly complete) set of the PS diagrams from the rugcis
archive site. There are a few files that are exclusive to my site, but not
many.

=2. Asking Joseph (who is a member of the origami-L list of course) via his
=email address on his web page, whether the files are available in PDF form
=somewhere else.

Yup. Go visit Alex Barber.

=3. If the files are not already in PDF somewhere, then do we have his
=permission to make PDF files of them for you?

But of course!

=Just by way of information: All the files, documents and photos on people's
=web pages are copyrighted materials whether the author or artist states so or
=not, at least under USA law. One can download or use them, but making a PDF
=file from a Postscript file is reproducing or translating a document, and
=requires the owners permission. (It is also considered good manners by the
=Origami Nation :-)

Good point!

=Joseph will probably pick up on this message now, since I changed the subject
=line, so we will probably get a clarification shortly, though we still need
=to know what specific files or designs you are interested in.

It feels strange to answer a message in which one is addressed in the third
person... 8)  But, yes, knowing which files would be useful.

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:22:59 -0300 (ADT)
From: Dennis Walker <d_and_m_walker@compuserve.com>
Subject: Origami sighting

Hello all,

        Origami was used in an 'Alas Smith and Jones' Sketch (UK Comedy)

        A teacher had written on the blackboard, "ORIGAMI   A-LEVEL", he
then
        looked at his watch and said, 'You may now fold your papers" and
the class started to fold.

                                Dennis
