




Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:49:54 -0300 (ADT)
From: havener3@delphi.com (Mark G. Havener)
Subject: Re: wedding models (among other thangs)

Aloha ka kou, Y'All!

I dunno if anyone mentioned that K. Kasahara has a quick and easy, but
nontheless elegant bride and groom model in her 1973 (newest edition found
at Barnes&Nobles, Memphis dates 1995) book ORIGAMI MADE EASY.  Speaking of
weddings, I am surprizing a few bonsai friends with an origami panda
wedding couple (because their combined initials are PandA) along with a
pair of stuffed pandas dressed in Kimono wedding attire.

I was checking the popularity of the origami books at the new Barnes&Nobles
at the band new WolfChase Galleria in Memphis and noticed that the origami
books and kits are hot sellers.  Even got R. Lang's new book there.
Pretty KEWL.  Got other origami folders in Memphis besides moi.  So I'm
gonna do some origami classes as my health improves, form a new origami
club, do a newsletter to paper all the bookstores, libraries, craft stores,
art stores, restaurants, paper companies (Mid-South has a few paper
manufacturers), among other things.  I think the fine dining restaurants
will get a kick out of learning how to fold cloth napkins into KEWL shapes.
Clubs are one way to keep the cost of imported orgami paper down and the
selection up.  Also, some of the book companies provide discounts for group
orders.  Still haven't figured out a club name with a catchy acronym.

Smiles and other mischief,
Geoline (Rebel moms of the world unite!)
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/momsai.html   (ON-HOLD 'til I feel
better bonsai page)
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/origami.com    (making waves origami
page...adding stuff like JS metric calculator 'cuz my metric conversions
suck; will be adding an origami folk tales and stories page soon with a
help from a few friends)

Mark G. Havener

+-----------------------------------+
 | Visit The Conservative Zone! |
+------+---------------------------+------------+
           | http://people.delphi.com/havener3 |





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:53:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: havener3@delphi.com (Mark G. Havener)
Subject: Re: Con Air

Teik talked:
>        Sometime ago, there was some talk about the show Con Air. And
>someone actually gave a brief
>sypnosis of the whole movie. But after my friend watched it today, the
>story seems to be completely different
>and the only part containing any sign of origami is at the start of it, in
>which a crane was shown. Would the
>writer of the sypnosis kindly explain himself? Or is there suppose to be
>different versions of this show? (Which
>I don't think so.)

Teik,

The writer was just letting his imagination run wild.  Comic relief
unfolding.  Sort of like a what if scenario if folks from the origami list
took over ConAir's script.

By the way, I really enjoyed the imaginative ConAir rewrite...

Mischief and other smiles,
Geoline (Rebel moms of the world untie yer husbands!)
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/momsai.html   (ON-HOLD 'til I feel
better bonsai page)
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/origami.com    (making waves origami
page...adding stuff like JS metric calculator 'cuz my metric conversions
suck; will be adding an origami folk tales and stories page soon with a
help from a few friends)

Mark G. Havener

+-----------------------------------+
 | Visit The Conservative Zone! |
+------+---------------------------+------------+
           | http://people.delphi.com/havener3 |





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:58:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: Dennis Brannon <brannon@jamin.enet.dec.com>
Subject: RE: Need help identifying lizard model

>I made the lizards using plastic coated florist foil, 4 x 1.  The model
>is in an old Harbin book, ORIGAMI 4.  The lizard is Max Hulme's.  Don't
>be misled by the diagrams.  With a little sculpting, you produce a
>reptile with tons of personality.
>
>Ros
Thanks!  Finally, a good lizard model that doesn't require glue and is made
with foil so it can be sculpted to give it a proper lizard attitude.

Since ORIGAMI 4 is probably out of print by now, does this model appear
in any more recent books or booklets?

Anybody know if this model will be in the new Harbin book that
Fascinating-Folds has listed as being available after July?

thanks,
dennis
---
Dennis Brannon
Ayer, Massachusetts USA
brannon@jamin.enet.dec.com





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 16:07:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pam and/or Namir <pgraben@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Wanted: tiger

I also endorse the Tiger from the book "Super Complex Origami" by Issei
Yoshino.
You can also find this model in the 1996 OUSA Annual Collection.

I used to be on a quest for the perfect tiger also, and my quest ended with
this model.
The closed back and breast, fangs, ruff around the cheeks, the "aliveness"
of it...
It is one of the more difficult models, but (for me) definately worth the
effort.
You can see an image of the tiger at this address of the Origami Tanteidan:

http://www.ask.or.jp/~origami/t/People/MAEK0/Bunko/Animal/tiger.jpg

-Namir

>Try the bobcat (I think) in "Super Complex Origami". I looks like it's ready
>to pounce. You can obtain the book from Sasuga on the web. This is a great
>book too.
>
>John Marcolina
>San Jose, CA.
>jmarcoli@cisco.com
!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
Pamela Graben:     Thinking... what a concept!
Namir Gharaibeh:  "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
pgraben@umich.edu





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 16:12:43 -0300 (ADT)
From: Connie <iowalady@wznet.net>
Subject: Removal from list

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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 16:17:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: wedding models (among other thangs)

On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Mark G. Havener wrote:

> I dunno if anyone mentioned that K. Kasahara has a quick and easy, but
> nontheless elegant bride and groom model in her 1973 (newest edition found

Kasahara is a he.

> orders.  Still haven't figured out a club name with a catchy acronym.

Well, since Memphis was originally a city in Egypt, maybe you could play
with something to do with papyrus.

          Joseph Wu           It's your privilege as an artist to inflict
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   the pain of creativity on yourself. We can
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami you how YOU paint. There's More Than One Way
 Webmaster, DATT Japan Inc.   To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
    http://www.datt.co.jp                 --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 16:35:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: Re: wedding models

Hi Jeannine!

On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Jeannine Mosely wrote:
> I don't remember which ORU it is in, 12 sounds right.

12 _is_ right.

> isn't big enough. Does anyone else have a preferred paper source for
> this model?

Yes, tissue foil. I made two wonderful models from a sheet of 60x40cm
tissue foil.

I make tissue foil from a kind of mulberry paper used as a wrapping paper
here. It is very thin and very fibrous, but it folds wonderfully. I wish I
could show you, it's rather hard to describe what kind of paper this is.

Yours, Sebastian               sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de,skirsch@t-online.de





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 17:55:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Goveia, William P" <wgoveia@indiana.edu>
Subject: RE: Removal from list

How to unsubscribe:

You may unsubscribe from this list sending a mail (without a subject)
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human being with a limited amount of time, so be patient while awaiting
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Hope this helps,
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 18:47:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: havener3@delphi.com (geoline)
Subject: Re: wedding models (among other thangs)

Joseph replied:
>On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Mark G. Havener wrote:

Actually, I was using my husband's computer, Hortense, at the time and
forgot to change his name and turn-off his auto-signature in the email
program.

>> I dunno if anyone mentioned that K. Kasahara has a quick and easy, but
>> nontheless elegant bride and groom model in her 1973 (newest edition found
>
>Kasahara is a he.

It was a Foldian Slip, *ahem*, Freudian Slip, I tell ya!

>> orders.  Still haven't figured out a club name with a catchy acronym.
>
>Well, since Memphis was originally a city in Egypt, maybe you could play
>with something to do with papyrus.

Good idea.  Much better than the Folding Elvis' of Memphis.  Origami Winged
Isis, Sphinx, or Tutankamen would make a KEWL logo.  Thanks for the hint
Joseph.

Geoline
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/momsai.html   (bonsai page)
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/origami.com    (origami page)





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 22:47:15 -0300 (ADT)
From: havener3@delphi.com (geoline)
Subject: Zensible Origami...was...Re: Removal from list

Connie W. in Virginia "iowalady@wznet.net" requested:
>Please remove me from this list. It is not quite what I am lookinf for. =
>You have a great list, just not my thing. I need to get more into =
>origami before I understand what most of you are talking about. So for =
>now I must remove myself. Thanks, and happy folding.

Dear Connie,

Frankly, I don't quite understand origami nomenclature myself although I
have been engaged in origami since I was a toddler.  Maybe because I don't
read or collect origami books enough to become familiar with the
nomenclature. I fold to keep my hands busy these days, sort of akin to
knitting or crocheting.

Don't let the more complex projects and origami mathematics intimidate you.
Even the most simplest folds captivate with sheer elegance.  You don't
need to be a mathematical wizard or origami grand master to enjoy origami
folding.  Origami also has strong ties to Zen/Taoist philosophy and other
oriental artforms such as bonsai (artistic miniature tree cultivation) and
suiseki (rock appreciation).  In these oriental philosophies and art forms,
we find beauty and inner peace in the simplest of gestures and suggestions.
The more realism and the more technically complicated folds of origami are
a more modern trend.  I love both the simple and complicated forms of
origami.

So maybe, you may want to stick around and discuss origami from a gentle
Zen perspective.

Geoline (A simple mom who does much more than fold clothes)
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/momsai.html   (bonsai page)
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/origami.com    (origami page)





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:22:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net>
Subject: Re: wedding models (among other thangs)

geoline wrote:

> Good idea.  Much better than the Folding Elvis' of Memphis.

Wouldn't the plurar be Elvi???? :?0'
--
>From pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 00:09:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: havener3@delphi.com (geoline)
Subject: Re: wedding models (among other thangs in Memphis)

>geoline wrote:
>
>> Good idea.  Much better than the Folding Elvis' of Memphis.
>
>Wouldn't the plurar be Elvi???? :?0'

In Memphis, the Elvii are female Elvis impersonators.  I don't know how to
pluralize Elvis.  Elvises, Elvis+, Elfishes...

Oh, yeah, gotta realate Elvis to origami!  Graceland sponsors an Elvis fine
arts competition. I don't know if anyone has ever entered an origami Elvis.
Perhaps a Lang guitar guy with sideburns for younger Elvis and a inflated
model for older Elvis?  Or maybe a origami teddy or panda with sideburns
Elvis?

Geoline (Viva, Los Veggies!  The Elvis Diet Album)
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/momsai.html   (bonsai page)
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/origami.com    (origami page)





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 01:05:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Re: wedding models (among other thangs in Memphis)

> >Wouldn't the plurar be Elvi???? :?0'
>
> In Memphis, the Elvii are female Elvis impersonators.  I don't know how to
> pluralize Elvis.  Elvises, Elvis+, Elfishes...

Elves.

(Anyone else ever see the old muppet fairy tale? The Elves, who all
look like Elvis, come and make blue suede shoes for the cobbler
every night....)

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 04:21:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Marius Kirsch)
Subject: Re: wedding models (among other thangs)

On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Mark G. Havener wrote:
> I dunno if anyone mentioned that K. Kasahara has a quick and easy, but
> nontheless elegant bride and groom model in her 1973 (newest edition
                                              ^^^ his.

Yours, Sebastian               sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de,skirsch@t-online.de





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 05:33:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Need help identifying lizard model

Dennis Brannon <brannon@jamin.enet.dec.com> sez

>Since ORIGAMI 4 is probably out of print by now, does this model appear
>in any more recent books or booklets?

No,

>Anybody know if this model will be in the new Harbin book that
>Fascinating-Folds has listed as being available after July?

and no.

Sorry, although the BOS has it in mind to reprint vols 3 & 4, possibly
together, at a future date.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with real Audio clips!





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:34:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: havener3@delphi.com (geoline)
Subject: Re: wedding models (among other thangs)

>On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Mark G. Havener wrote:
>> I dunno if anyone mentioned that K. Kasahara has a quick and easy, but
>> nontheless elegant bride and groom model in her 1973 (newest edition
>                                              ^^^ his.
>
>Yours, Sebastian               sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de,skirsch@t-online.de

Tanks, Mr. Malaprop.

MINES!  Geoline                 havener3@delphi.com





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:29:19 -0300 (ADT)
From: Matthias Gutfeldt <Tanjit@bboxbbs.ch>
Subject: (NO):Subject lines...

Hi All,

in case you didn't know:
The "Subject:" line is NOT hardcoded!
You can actually adjust this line to reflect the content of your
e-mail. This is very useful when the original subject was "wedding
models" and the current discussion under that subject is about
availability of diagrams, black foil rolls, Elvis plurals etc.
Just a thought :-).

Matthias, changing the subject





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:05:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: havener3@delphi.com (geoline)
Subject: Re: (NO...maybe):Subject lines...(From Tori Spelling Errors to Origami

Matthias noted:
>in case you didn't know:
>The "Subject:" line is NOT hardcoded!
>You can actually adjust this line to reflect the content of your
>e-mail. This is very useful when the original subject was "wedding
>models" and the current discussion under that subject is about
>availability of diagrams, black foil rolls, Elvis plurals etc.
>Just a thought :-).

I would have thought that adding "(among other thangs in Memphis)" to the
subject header was enough of a clue that the content would contain regional
material flavored in the local dialect, culture and social graces, Tori
Spelling errors included.  Sigh.  Eventually, y'all will get used to mah
act scent (personality).

I'm originally from Hawaii.  In Hawaii, folding things indicative of the
rich multi-ethnic culture gives origami a special local flavor.  In
Memphis, if you build origami around things associated with the social
milieu like Elvis, Riverboats, the Memphis Belle, Beale Street Blues,
Martin Luther King Jr.,  St. Jude's Children's Hospital and the Pyramid,
rather than deal only with popular Japanese images exclusively, you bring a
hometown flavor to the community which gives origami a warm, heartland
appeal.  Always speaking of origami in academic terms and complexity will
tune-out young children and those who admire origami but don't know where
to begin.  If I start an origami club, I want all to feel welcome, from
little ones-to teens- to senior citizens, from housewives-to blue collar-to
mathematicians .

True Li Blue,
Geoline
havener3@delphi.com
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/origami.html
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/momsai.html





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:48:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@pb.net>
Subject: Re: ID at the OrigamiUSA Convention

> OR...I have a pack of 600 very small red apple stickers that I would be
> happy to bring to the convention and start handing out Friday night to all
> who are part of this list.  This small sticker on your badge could clearly
> identify all of the list members!
>
> I will leave several sheets at the main information desk for the rest of you
> to pick up as you arrive and this should solve the problem.  After all, the
> convention is in the Big Apple - OK?
>
> Ellen Aronson

Great idea! I'm doing registration on Friday night and would be glad to
     distribute some
apples. Mike Naughton usually does registration on Saturday and Sunday, he
     could help
out then. Leaving some at the main information desk wold work too.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:05:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: NO: Subject Lines

Geoline writes:
<<I would have thought that adding "(among other thangs in Memphis)" to the
<<subject header was enough of a clue that the content

Y'all might bear in mind that many mail programs (mine
included) only display the first 12-15 characters (if that)
of the subject line when listing incoming mail.
So anything tacked onto the end of the original subject
may as well not be there as far as determining whether
one wants to read the mail or chuck it.

And, personally, I would prefer that chitchat and information
of purely local interest be confined to private email, at
least after an intial inquiry or "notice" post.

Everyone might also bear in mind that **everything** posted
to the origami-L ends up in the archive of messages, and
that archive is regularly read and indexed by the spiders of
the major search services.

Valerie_Vann@compuserve.com





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:49:06 -0300 (ADT)
From: Wayne Fluharty <wflu@hotmail.com>
Subject: Origami sighting

http:/www.learn2.com has a lot of useful tutorials on "how to" do just
about anything ("how to" understand baseball, "how to" make a kite, "how
basic origami" AND it is now #2 on the most often requested tutorials.

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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:20:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: havener3@delphi.com (geoline)
Subject: Re: NO: Subject Lines

Valerie wrote:
>Y'all might bear in mind that many mail programs (mine
>included) only display the first 12-15 characters (if that)
>of the subject line when listing incoming mail.
>So anything tacked onto the end of the original subject
>may as well not be there as far as determining whether
>one wants to read the mail or chuck it.

Then again, what use are subject lines if one's email reader (such as found
in some Netscapes) chucks most of the header and keeps just the first
letter?  One can't cater to all platforms.

>And, personally, I would prefer that chitchat and information
>of purely local interest be confined to private email, at
>least after an intial inquiry or "notice" post.

That is very kind of you. Posting messages regarding any club activity
would fall under the category of "purely local interest".  For instance,
posting messages about Origami USA convention updates do not belong on the
list in this case as it would be not of interest for most non-Americans as
would writing paper dimensions only in terms of inches and feet.  The
Origami List is only as big or limitted as we make it.  There should be
room for all levels of origami discussion.  Leave out the regional
information, and those in a particular region searching the archives for
regional activity, AIN'T GONNA FIND IT.

Starting-up a regional origami club is important business which other folks
might find useful in determining how to start their own and how to put new
life into older stagnating clubs.

I will be guilty of regional American, Hawaiian and Memphian chitchat when
contributing my ideas.      Other people have sent me private email that
they enjoy my language and the way I make origami seem more down-to-earth
because I give my writing a distinct local flavor.  I am proud to promote
origami as an art form and craft of ecletic appeal.

I could choose to contribute only hardcore, bland paper folding information
and mathematical nomenclature and put everyone to sleep.  But that is just
not me.  Philosopher Bertrand Russell once philosophized if one must write,
write for the masses, not just for the ivory tower intellectuals.

14th century (or somewhere theres about) Japanese zen master Ikkyu Shojun,
son of the emperor, opened his heart to all and took pleasure in teaching
women, children, street people, and prostitutes.  He is noted for appearing
in his beggar's clothing at a posh reception thrown in his honor because
the host wanted to gain the blessing and favor of a noted zen master of
royal lineage.  The host tells the beggar he has no food or money to spare
and rudely shoos the begar away.  Ikkyu returns with his lavish holy robes
and is welcomed with much pomp by the host and offered all kinds of
expensive gifts and foods.  Ikkyu takes off his royal holy robes, hands
them to the host, and says, "Just as I thought.  My robes are the guest of
honor."  Ikkyu walks out of the house of the rich host without accepting
any food or gifts.

Thusly,  if anyone finds my bluezy, blue collar, chitchat style of
contributing to the list "annoying"  any time you see the name "geoline" or
"Havener" in the sender header, don't even bother to read it.  Hit delete.
I ain't no prig.

Sincere Li,
Geoline
havener3@delphi.com

Welcome to my origami page, casual wear (puka shirt) and zoris (slippers,
flip-flops) preffered.
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/origami.html





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:02:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: Need romanji translation

Can someone provide a translation of the following
three origami book titles:

Ugokashite Asobou Origami no Hon

Kurashi wo Irodoru Yuyu no Origami

Seimei Yutakana Origami

Does anyone know the author of these? Is it Tomoko Fuse?

Thank you.
Valerie_Vann@compuserve.com





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:42:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: The Aronson's <aronson5@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: ID at the OrigamiUSA Convention

Then it's settled.  All origami list members who come to the convention
should keep an eye out for small red apple labels to affix to their nametags.

[I guess we can do without a special hand shake or secret eye winking
behavior.] Can't wait to meet you all!

Ellen Aronson - O.C.E.A.N. Folders - Long Beach New York (and LIFE groupie)





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:49:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Re: Need romanji translation

> Can someone provide a translation of the following
> three origami book titles:
>
> Ugokashite Asobou Origami no Hon
>
> Kurashi wo Irodoru Yuyu no Origami
>
> Seimei Yutakana Origami
>
> Does anyone know the author of these? Is it Tomoko Fuse?

Sorry Valerie! I failed to mention when I posted those book titles
that I got from TRC  (http://www.trc.co.jp/) that they were the
result of looking for Fuse, Yoshizawa, and Kasahara titles in their
database. Also asked them about Origami House publications but I
don't think they gave me those.They didn't tell me which was which
though....and I haven't asked them to clarify yet.

 (I suggested that they might go ahead and put an English page of
their Origami titles up. I got the response "Wouldn't that be fun!",
but it was clear that such a page is quite unlikely :->.)

I am pretty sure that "Kurashi wo Iroduru Yuyu no Origami is a Fuse
book in the same series as "Kurashi wo Irodoru Rakuraku
no Origami". Has anyone gotten that from Sasuga yet? Looks like it
has some nice cat models.

The last title was more expensive at 3800 yen. I was assuming that
this one might be a nice Yoshizawa or Kasahara hardback.

But really I should just ask the bookstore again, eh? I'll go ahead
and do that, but probably won't get a response till tomorrow morning.

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:35:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: Matthias Gutfeldt <Tanjit@bboxbbs.ch>
Subject: (NO): Subject lines revisited

My, are you folks touchy! I should have added a whole armada
of smileys in my original posting. *sigh*

I'm not attacking the content of any postings. To the
contrary! I enjoyed the "wedding" thread, and all the
other threads that sail under a false flag. It was just
one example for a thread that has little or nothing to do
with the original message.

BUT there are valid reasons for adjusting subject lines.
Here's one:
Many people don't really have time to read 30+ messages a day,
and they rely on the subject lines to guide them to the stuff
they're interested in. So it does make sense to change the
subject line every once in a while! Plus there's at least
a dozen other reasons I won't list here.
So y'all stash the flamethrowers and get back to paperfolding!

Matthias, desperately trying to change the subject





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:44:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Need romanji translation

On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Valerie Vann wrote:

> Can someone provide a translation of the following
> three origami book titles:
>
> Ugokashite Asobou Origami no Hon

Action Game Origami Book

> Kurashi wo Irodoru Yuyu no Origami

This one's strange. Something like "Colourful Life Origami" but I have no
idea what the "yuyu" is.

> Seimei Yutakana Origami

This is a misreading. It's really "Inochi Yutaka na Origami" by
Yoshizawa. The character for "seimei" is the character for "inochi" with
something extra added to it.

          Joseph Wu           It's your privilege as an artist to inflict
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   the pain of creativity on yourself. We can
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami you how YOU paint. There's More Than One Way
 Webmaster, DATT Japan Inc.   To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
    http://www.datt.co.jp                 --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:39:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@kimscrane.com>
Subject: Kim's Crane Has Several New Papers and Books

Hello Everyone:

We have added several new papers and books to our site,
http://www.kimscrane.com  Please come in and have a look.  We look
forward to seeing everyone next week at the convention.  We just got a
tentative schedule of classes and are having a hard time, as always,
making choices. If there is something(s) someone would like us to bring
up to the convention, please let us know.  We will be bringing some of
our more unusual papers with us.  If you have a suggestion as to what
you want us to bring, please e-mail us privately.

Sincerely,
Kimberly and Gordon Crane
Kim's Crane





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:39:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jack & Emma Craib <gearhead@snet.net>
Subject: Peabody Museum/Yoshizawa

Hi all,  Had to share my impressions of the models displayed at the
Peabody in Salem...  I was so taken by the treatment of the paper.  He
uses it like it is clay, with the most incredibly subtle tweaks and
pinches that create expressive lips, squinting monkey eyes, muscles
under fur...  The paper is so thick and full of character; handsome
stuff.  Two monkeys were so life like I expected them to move
(really...it was weird).  Many things to make you smile...mice in a
circle, each an individual.  A sparrow of gold and brown, chubby,
chirping. His animals seem strong and poised to move.   Four breeds of
dog in one case were so true to their breed conformation.  I guess it
boils down to the _life_ most of the models had within them which was a
shock to me.  Emma





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:04:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: preaux <preaux@univ-lyon1.fr>
Subject: Re: New web pages on origami-math

hull@MATH.URI.EDU wrote:
>
> Hello people, places, and things,
>
> I've just added a whole bunch of stuff to the origami math section
> of my web pages, including
>

> (3) Diagrams for my "Five Intersecting Tetrahedra" model.
>

>
> ----- Tom "silly in the heat" Hull
>       hull@math.uri.edu

Well, ... , great work I'm very impressed by the quality of your
instructions. As I saw pictures on the net I was eager to do it!
You realize one of my dreams.

thanks a lot

cyrille
"Vous me demandez quel est le supreme bonheur ici bas.
 C'est d'ecouter la chanson d'une petite fille qui s'eloigne
 apres vous avoir demande son chemin."
                              LI_TAI_PO, poemes.





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:27:29 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michael Montebello <florafauna@msn.com>
Subject: RE: ID at the OrigamiUSA Convention

----------
From:  origami-l@nstn.ca on behalf of The Aronson's
Sent:  Thursday, June 19, 1997 7:27 AM
To:  Multiple recipients of list
Subject:  Re: ID at the OrigamiUSA Convention

small red apple stickers, good idea faster than IWDFTLT's = ( I Was Dropped
>From The List Too )'s

hobbit





Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 22:16:57 -0300 (ADT)
From: always <a6971@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Romaji translation

As far as I remember, "yuyu" is a classic Japanese word which they
hardly use but still exist in writing form. You can replace this word
with "samazama" or "ironna" in Japanese meaning "various forms of".
I hope this will help.             Kelly





Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 00:09:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rick Roelke <rick@roelke.org>
Subject: Story Fold

Many years ago I used to know a fold that illustrated a story.  The
story was about a boy who was flying a kite, trying to decide what he
wanted to be when he grew up.  Some of the professions he talked about
were a fireman a soldier, and a sailor.  As the story progressed the
fold changed into a kite, a soldiers hat a fireman's hat, and a small
boat.  The end of the story the sailor was caught out in a storm and
the bow of the boat was ripped off (literally) and then the stern, and
finally the cabin.  When you unfolded the remaining paper it looked
like a short sleeved shirt (and all they found was his shirt!).  The
fold was done with rectangular paper (newspaper).  It has been so long
I don't remember the fold (and probably only part of the story).  If
any one knows the fold and can point me to the right place to relearn
it, I would appreciate it.  My daughter is now interested in origami
and I think she would enjoy the story.

Thanks Rick





Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:48:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: morpha <morpha@columbia-pacific.interrain.org>
Subject: Wanted: red hot chili peppers, and other stuff

Greetings all:

I am in search of diagrams of the following.

1)A chili pepper.

2)salmon

3)halibut

I'm not yet a good enough folder (or creative enough) to invent my own
and I haven't been able to find sources for these diagrams on internet.

Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks!

Morpha





Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:52:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@ihug.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Story Fold

The fold you mention appears in several places. I have Robert Harbins first
book 'Paper Magic' (the one that was illustrated by Rolf Harris) open at
page 28 where the folds are described. If you don't have this book I will
try to either find another for you, or draw the model up and email a
scanned image.

Laurie Bisman
lbisman@ihug.co.nz

----------
> From: Rick Roelke <rick@roelke.org>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Subject: Story Fold
> Date: Saturday, 21 June 1997 03:10
>
> Many years ago I used to know a fold that illustrated a story.  The
> story was about a boy who was flying a kite, trying to decide what he
> wanted to be when he grew up.  Some of the professions he talked about
> were a fireman a soldier, and a sailor.  As the story progressed the
> fold changed into a kite, a soldiers hat a fireman's hat, and a small
> boat.  The end of the story the sailor was caught out in a storm and
> the bow of the boat was ripped off (literally) and then the stern, and
> finally the cabin.  When you unfolded the remaining paper it looked
> like a short sleeved shirt (and all they found was his shirt!).  The
> fold was done with rectangular paper (newspaper).  It has been so long
> I don't remember the fold (and probably only part of the story).  If
> any one knows the fold and can point me to the right place to relearn
> it, I would appreciate it.  My daughter is now interested in origami
> and I think she would enjoy the story.
>
> Thanks Rick





Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 02:54:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Re: Story Fold

A version of this story told by Lillian Oppenheimer is also
republished in "The New Origami" by Steve and Megumi Biddle. Part of
a whole section of origami storytelling. Not hard to find....I'm sure
you can get it at almost any big bookstore or Amazon.

I recomend this title in particular as it not only has the story you
are looking for, but it also provides an excellent overview of the
different origami subgenres. Lots of models to work through. From
simple to complex.

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com

> Many years ago I used to know a fold that illustrated a story.  The
> story was about a boy who was flying a kite, trying to decide what he
> wanted to be when he grew up.  Some of the professions he talked about
> were a fireman a soldier, and a sailor.  As the story progressed the
> fold changed into a kite, a soldiers hat a fireman's hat, and a small
> boat.  The end of the story the sailor was caught out in a storm and
> the bow of the boat was ripped off (literally) and then the stern, and
> finally the cabin.  When you unfolded the remaining paper it looked
> like a short sleeved shirt (and all they found was his shirt!).  The
> fold was done with rectangular paper (newspaper).  It has been so long
> I don't remember the fold (and probably only part of the story).  If
> any one knows the fold and can point me to the right place to relearn
> it, I would appreciate it.  My daughter is now interested in origami
> and I think she would enjoy the story.
>
> Thanks Rick





Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:41:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: havener3@delphi.com (geoline)
Subject: (GEO): Subject lines and Paper rules

Matthias revisted
>My, are you folks touchy! I should have added a whole armada
>of smileys in my original posting. *sigh*

Touchy is good.  Without some friction, creativity wanes, art dies, trees
do not develop strong thick trunks, paper shortage.  In academia, it is
called peer review.  Peer review keeps scientists and professors honest and
competitive.

>I'm not attacking the content of any postings. To the
>contrary! I enjoyed the "wedding" thread, and all the
>other threads that sail under a false flag. It was just
>one example for a thread that has little or nothing to do
>with the original message.

So many origami folders attempt to mimic nature with paper to make their
creations sail under a "false flag."  This is called the fine art of
illusion and magic. Even nature creates critters that sail under a false
flag.  Therefore, must all messages be predictable for the sake of
pretentious politeness?

In origami, many a realistic model flies under the cover of a false flag, a
simple square.  The sheer nature of origami is that of a message thread
which starts off from a simple question and unfolds into intersecting
tangents.

In oriental cultures, irony and puns are woven into our languages.  Origami
may mean "Folding Paper" on a literal level, but there is a homonym which
sounds like paper:kami which is associated with the divine, with the world
of spirits and magic.  When my son was a toddler, he thought that there was
magic in paper because mom and dad could pick-up a sheet of music and sing
along with people we never met before.  Paper possesses a kind of delicate
magic that brings voices together, tears governments assunder, and shapes
the universe with the hand of god or man.

>BUT there are valid reasons for adjusting subject lines.
>Here's one:
>Many people don't really have time to read 30+ messages a day,
>and they rely on the subject lines to guide them to the stuff
>they're interested in. So it does make sense to change the
>subject line every once in a while! Plus there's at least
>a dozen other reasons I won't list here.

Why then do we take the time to celebrate holidays with gifts?  To get away
from predictability with the open mind of a child.  Watch surprize unfold.
No time for surprize and wonder, does not make ZENse.

This list has over five hundred members.  Only a few members actively
participate.  It would be wonderful to see more participation from
different people rather than from just the same crowd of posters.  It is so
easy to politely intimidate new members into SILENCE with so much emphasis
on keeping the people who have no time, happy all the time.  It is easy to
politely intimidate old and new list members into SILENCE with posts that
focus on just a few complex subgenres and the same polite crowd of posters.
Just recently there was a woman from Iowa who asked for information about
signing-off this list because she got the impression that this list is more
involved with complex origami.  I get many emails from the silent ones.

>So y'all stash the flamethrowers and get back to paperfolding!

I do not use flamethrowers.  I use zen archery.  No greater weapon, no
greater magic than imagination and creativity.

Geoline
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/origami.com
Where ZENsibility unfolds...





Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:29:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: dbwalker@nilenet.com (David Bruce Walker)
Subject: modern origimi

hey guys/ladies

 a local bookstore which is conducting origiami book searches for me has a
copy of "modern origami" by Sakoda in mint condition. it is the softcover
edition however. As I have the hardcover version. I was wondering if anyone
on the list wanted it. the cost is 10.00 and if you are coming to the
convention I will bring with me.  let me know





Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:08:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: BESBizarre@aol.com
Subject: Re: Story Fold

In einer eMail vom 21.06.1997  07:55:28, schreiben Sie:

<< Many years ago I used to know a fold that illustrated a story.  The
 story was about a boy who was flying a kite, trying to decide what he
 wanted to be when he grew up.  Some of the professions he talked about
 were a fireman a soldier, and a sailor.  As the story progressed the
 fold changed into a kite, a soldiers hat a fireman's hat, and a small
 boat.  The end of the story the sailor was caught out in a storm and
 the bow of the boat was ripped off (literally) and then the stern, and
 finally the cabin.  When you unfolded the remaining paper it looked
 like a short sleeved shirt (and all they found was his shirt!).  The
 fold was done with rectangular paper (newspaper).  It has been so long
 I don't remember the fold (and probably only part of the story).  If
 any one knows the fold and can point me to the right place to relearn
 it, I would appreciate it.  My daughter is now interested in origami
 and I think she would enjoy the story.

Thanks Rick
 >>

Dear Rick,
I had the chance to watch GAY MERRILL GROSS from New York tell her Origami
stories. She came to the German Origami convention at Wuerzburg this year.
Her stories reach from short and magical effects to long narrations.

There were two stories that started with the traditional hat and with a kite.
They may resemble the stories you are looking for.

The first story started with the traditional hat fold from a newspaper sheet.
It was presented as the story of the little girl Alice who has to stay at
home on a rainy day. After she has played with all her toys there is only the
newspaper of the day left. She folds herself a hat. Protected by her hat she
goes out into the rain. She helps to fight a fire (her hat is changed into a
fireman's helmet). The rain is still pouring down, so Alice needs a boat.
Unfortunately, her boat crashes (top, left, and right parts are torn off).
But Alice is safe because (unfold) she has remembered to wear her life
jacket.

The second story started with a kite (bird base fold). It was the story about
a magician, his wishing kite and the unhappy fox.

I could help you with Gay's address if you wish.

Greetings from Germany
Birgit Schumacher





Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:21:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Wanted: red hot chili peppers, and other stuff

Morpha wrote
>
> Greetings all:
>
> I am in search of diagrams of the following.
>
> 1)A chili pepper.
>
etc.

If I'm not mistaken, there is a very nice bell pepper in
"Origami for the Connoiseur".  Perhaps with some red paper
and a little imagination it could be mutated into a
chili pepper.

                               ... Mark

P.S. Once you have a nice origami chili pepper, you could
     fasten several together into a chili pepper Christmas
     wreath.  I once saw these in San Diego and thought it
     a neat idea.  Of course, you won't be able to eat the
     origami one later ...

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimie.umontreal.ca           |





Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 14:49:44 -0300 (ADT)
From: PErick3491@aol.com
Subject: thanks

Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for info about stars from
strips and van Gouberans cat.  Another question.  I would like to get more
into modulars but am not particularly interested in geometrics.  Does anyone
know of diagrams for animals, objects, toys, etc. made from modulars?  Is
Fuse's book of toys still in print?  I've Looked at Sasuga, Fascinating
Folds, Amazon and have not been able to find it.  Thanks again.  Pat Erickson





Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 19:18:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: Psioni@aol.com
Subject: Re: modern origimi

I desire the book, but am not coming to the convention. Would it be possible
for you to mail it to me. I will pay the necessary cost of shipping.





Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 20:16:16 -0300 (ADT)
From: Diana Davey <davey@key.net.au>
Subject: Re: modern origimi

>I desire the book, but am not coming to the convention. Would it be possible
>for you to mail it to me. I will pay the necessary cost of shipping.
>
Hello all,

I am just new to the list but am interested in knowing more about this book?
Can anyone enlighten me?

Diana Davey
Emerald Beach, NSW, Australia





Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:04:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: Brian Cox <briancox@mb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re:Storey fold

To the Storey folders

There is a story that has may of the same characters ( or so it seems)
but there is no cutting. The storey can have many variations. Details are
encouraged to be added to facilitate your telling.

Paper Folding for beginners by William D.  Murray and Francis J. Rigney
from Dover  isbn   0-486-20713-7   1960  Original was Fun with Paper from
Fleming H. Revell Company   1928.

Try a Troublewitt. They come in two sizes that I Know of, 1 foot in lengh
when folded, and for those just starting a 1/2 witt.
Fold your own 19 x 28 ( small for table top magicians )

Brian Cox





Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:25:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@pb.net>
Subject: Re: Story Fold

> In einer eMail vom 21.06.1997  07:55:28, schreiben Sie:
>
> << Many years ago I used to know a fold that illustrated a story.  The
>  story was about a boy who was flying a kite, trying to decide what he
>  wanted to be when he grew up.  Some of the professions he talked about
>  were a fireman a soldier, and a sailor.  As the story progressed the
>  fold changed into a kite, a soldiers hat a fireman's hat, and a small
>  boat.  The end of the story the sailor was caught out in a storm and
>  the bow of the boat was ripped off (literally) and then the stern, and
>  finally the cabin.  When you unfolded the remaining paper it looked
>  like a short sleeved shirt (and all they found was his shirt!).  The
>  fold was done with rectangular paper (newspaper).  It has been so long
>  I don't remember the fold (and probably only part of the story).  If
>  any one knows the fold and can point me to the right place to relearn
>  it, I would appreciate it.  My daughter is now interested in origami
>  and I think she would enjoy the story.
>
> Thanks Rick
Anyone coming to the convention who is interested in storytelling, we do a lot
     of
informal sharing in the hospitality area and I will be doing a workshop on
     Monday
morning. Come learn and share!

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:48:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: non-geometric modulars

>  I would like to get more
>into modulars but am not particularly interested in geometrics.  Does anyone
>know of diagrams for animals, objects, toys, etc. made from modulars?  Is
>Fuse's book of toys still in print?  I've Looked at Sasuga, Fascinating
>Folds, Amazon and have not been able to find it.  Thanks again.  Pat Erickson

This raises an interesting point.  In _Origami for the Connoisseur_ there
are photos of three modular sculptures using sonobe modules: a horse, a dog,
and a bird, I believe.  They are beautifully done, but no information on how
to assemble or design such a creation is given.  And since modulars became
so very popular in origami, I have seen no other examples of non-geometric
creations, except for the Golden Venture sculptures which are really a
different category all together.  Is anyone doing such things?

This message comes so close to the OUSA convention that there may not be a
response from US modular-ists(?), but maybe we can hear from the rest of the
world?

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:42:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Eric Andersen <ema@techhouse.cis.brown.edu>
Subject: Peabody Essex Museum display and Yoshizawa class

On June 20, Emma wrote:

> Reply-To: origami-l@nstn.ca
> To: Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Subject: Peabody Museum/Yoshizawa
>
> Hi all,  Had to share my impressions of the models displayed at the
> Peabody in Salem...  I was so taken by the treatment of the paper.  He
> uses it like it is clay, with the most incredibly subtle tweaks and
> pinches that create expressive lips, squinting monkey eyes, muscles
> under fur...

I wholeheartedly agree! The display was exquisite! It was
exhilirating to see origami models displayed in museum cases, next to
paintings and other traditional museum displays. The models on display
were truly sculptures, as much a marvel to the experienced paperfolder as
first time I saw it, I thought it was carved from metal...the eyes and
mouth were shaped perfectly, round and lifelike. Simply beautiful.

The class was wonderful as well. Many thanks to Michael LaFosse, the
Peabody Essex Museum, and, of course, Yoshizawa and his wife for providing
this opportunity to see this master's work, listen to his philosophy, and
learn from his teaching.

I will write more later about this class, if others are interested.

-Eric :-P
origami@brown.edu

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:24:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: MSPARKS@pinkertons.com (MATTHEW SPARKS 05-025)
Subject: zen origami

I had a square of paper
I folded it
it wasn't
I folded it again,
It was

I decided to leave well enough alone.

Matthew Makaala Sparks                          Desk (818) 380-8712
Senior Technical Support Specialist             Fax  (818) 380-8677
Pinkerton Security & Investigation Services     Pgr  (818) 315-4118
15910 Ventura Blvd.; Suite 900
Encino, CA  91436                               Ham Radio KE6GVI
  email = MSparks@Pinkertons.com
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 Say "Plugh"...                                 "XYZZY"

 ----------
From:  origami-l[SMTP:origami-l@nstn.ca]
Sent:  Thursday, June 19, 1997 6:55 PM
To:  Multiple recipients of list
Subject:  Zensible Origami...was...Re: Removal fr

Connie W. in Virginia "iowalady@wznet.net" requested:
>Please remove me from this list. It is not quite what I am lookinf for.   =
>You have a great list, just not my thing. I need to get more into =
>origami before I understand what most of you are talking about. So for =
>now I must remove myself. Thanks, and happy folding.

Dear Connie,

Frankly, I don't quite understand origami nomenclature myself although I
have been engaged in origami since I was a toddler.  Maybe because I   don't
read or collect origami books enough to become familiar with the
nomenclature. I fold to keep my hands busy these days, sort of akin to
knitting or crocheting.

Don't let the more complex projects and origami mathematics intimidate   you.
Even the most simplest folds captivate with sheer elegance.  You don't
need to be a mathematical wizard or origami grand master to enjoy origami
folding.  Origami also has strong ties to Zen/Taoist philosophy and other
oriental artforms such as bonsai (artistic miniature tree cultivation)   and
suiseki (rock appreciation).  In these oriental philosophies and art   forms,
we find beauty and inner peace in the simplest of gestures and   suggestions.
The more realism and the more technically complicated folds of origami   are
a more modern trend.  I love both the simple and complicated forms of
origami.

So maybe, you may want to stick around and discuss origami from a gentle
Zen perspective.

Geoline (A simple mom who does much more than fold clothes)
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/momsai.html   (bonsai page)
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/origami.com    (origami page)





Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:26:36 -0300 (ADT)
From: MSPARKS@pinkertons.com (MATTHEW SPARKS 05-025)
Subject: folding vs. sculpting

On June 20, Emma wrote:
I was so taken by the treatment of the paper.  He
> uses it like it is clay, with the most incredibly subtle tweaks and
> pinches that create expressive lips, squinting monkey eyes, muscles
> under fur...

I was curious,  I have seen some folds of animals that look like animals
     folded out of paper. but then I have seen some folds that leave "folding"
     behind and sculpt the paper in to much more lifelike shapes.  (I of
     course am striving to obtain this

Is there a name differentiation between these two types of origami

I would think there would be, after all you can document a fold, but   those
     little lifelike tweaks are more of an art.

Matthew Makaala Sparks                          Desk (818) 380-8712
Senior Technical Support Specialist             Fax  (818) 380-8677
Pinkerton Security & Investigation Services
15910 Ventura Blvd.; Suite 900
Encino, CA  91436                               Ham Radio KE6GVI
  email = MSparks@Pinkertons.com
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:27:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: Dennis Brannon <brannon@jamin.enet.dec.com>
Subject: RE: non-geometric modulars

>This raises an interesting point.  In _Origami for the Connoisseur_ there
>are photos of three modular sculptures using sonobe modules: a horse, a dog,
>and a bird, I believe.  They are beautifully done, but no information on how
>to assemble or design such a creation is given.

Good point.  I'd forgotten about them.   Thanks!  I'll have to try experimenting
with those modules.

>And since modulars became
>so very popular in origami, I have seen no other examples of non-geometric
>creations, except for the Golden Venture sculptures which are really a
>different category all together.  Is anyone doing such things?
The modular unit in the origami archives ftp:rugcis.rug.nl/origami/models/chinun
     it.ps
is great for providing a easy to fold modular that can be connected in several
     different
ways to form pineapples, birds, dragons, etc.  The downside is that these
     modulars
don't lock together so the results have to be handled carefully.
re:"different category" - I assume you are referring to the glue sculptures, and
not the modular Chinese vase.

In Christmas Origami 2 by Heian (see http://www.kimscrane.com/booklist.html)
is a crown made from several blintz folded squares.

I've made a dog and a puppeteer from Jeannine Mosley's business Card Cubes
http://world.std.com/~j9/sponge/cubes.html

Dennis Brannon
brannon@jamin.enet.dec.com





Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:41:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: non-geometric modulars

Well, outside of the flower type kusudama,
the OFTC bird/horse/dog are the only significant
"non-geometric" modulars I know of as far as models of
living things go. I reverse engineered most of the bird
a long time ago from the photo; you'd have to be pretty
familiar with the multiple varieties of Sonobe units and
the ways to join them to figure these models out. I sort
of decided they were destined to be one-of-a-kind
sculptures. They'd be stinkers to diagram even if you
knew how they were made. It would take some kind of
"map" of the location of the various type of Sonobe
units used.

The new book by Rozelle on King Arthur's court may have
modular people, or multi-sheet people; I haven't seen
the book yet.

Edward Sullivan's Castle's (in the Kenneway classic book)
are a modular system. Others, myself included, have made
additional units for Sullivan's system, but none of that
is diagrammed or published as far as I know.

Personally, though, I don't regard multi-sheet models
as "modular" unless the units are variations of a main
unit forming a system, or all identical, and find the
geometric aspect of modular origami to be one of its main
attractions.

Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:57:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kim Best <kim.best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: Wanted: red hot chili peppers, and other stuff

morpha wrote:

> I am in search of diagrams of the following.
>
> 2)salmon

There is a really great salmon in "Super Complex Origami".  It's a bit
advanced though...
