




Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 10:56:29 -0300 (ADT)
From: Devin McPherson <devmc@oeonline.com>
Subject: Maekawa

Thanks to Kelly I've learned the Gargoyle (devil, demon, oni, etc...)
model. I thinks it going to be my favorite fold for a long while.
    This is just a public thank you to Kelly for going to the trouble of
s-mailing me the documentation and sending a few helping folds as
examples. Origamiists are so broadly spread out that it's nice to be
able to network this way.
-=[Devin]=-
--
http://oeonline.com/~devmc/origami.html





Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 12:18:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mark Gilchrist <mark@gilchrist.demon.co.uk>
Subject: M'Aidez!  M'Aidez!

I'm having major problems with the mailing list.  If you can read this
email me please (privately, as I cant get any mail from yhe list at the
moment!)

mark@gilchrist.demon.co.uk

You are not ready for immortality.





Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 17:08:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: Amy Huang <ahuang@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Subject: Re: Origami Web Ring

Hello everyone!

        I've just made all the appropriate modifications to the Origami
Webring homepage. So, if anyone would like to join, please visit
http://www.angelfire.com/la/Lal
If there still are problems, feel free to e-mail me and I can add people in
manually.

        The homepage doesn't look as good as it used to be and may be a
little confusing, but it will have to do for now. Everything on the site is
correct and appropriate. Hopefully within the next week the site will look
more appealing and perhaps better than it used to be:)

        Thanks for everyone's patience,
        Amy
        http://www.angelfire.com/la/Lal





Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 18:02:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: hull@MATH.URI.EDU
Subject: New web pages on origami-math

Hello people, places, and things,

I've just added a whole bunch of stuff to the origami math section
of my web pages, including

(1) A listing of upcoming origami-math events (I'll try to keep it
    current!)
(2) A tutorial on "origami geometric constructions" (Huzita's work)
(3) Diagrams for my "Five Intersecting Tetrahedra" model.

Of course, the origami math bibliography is still there (which I
need to update).

Check it out.  My home page is http://www.math.uri.edu/~hull
(which has a new picture of moi), or go right to the math
part http://www.math.uri.edu/~hull/OrigamiMath.html

Please let me know if you find any bad links or spelling errors.
Also, I apologize in advance for the occasional cruddy layout.
I'm working on it.

Enjoy, and I'll see some of you all at the convention!

----- Tom "silly in the heat" Hull
      hull@math.uri.edu





Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:29:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Maarten van Gelder <M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Re: Origami Challenge

m> I believe Jeremy Shafer already has a one-piece marble maze

I did it also several years ago. The picture is in my photo gallery at:

   http://www.rug.nl/~maarten/fotos/labyrint.gif

Maarten van Gelder,           Rekencentrum RuG,  RijksUniversiteit Groningen
M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl                            Nederland





Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:43:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Bonnie Elbode <belbode@cms.cc.wayne.edu>
Subject: Gargoyle,Demon,Oni,

I just accidentally deleted that last message thanking someone for mailing
instructions to Gargoyle.  I don't suppose same samaritan would care to send
me directions too?  I would be eternally (well almost) grateful!  Would love
to surprise teenage son with it (he's been drawing monsters, gargoyles,
demons, and such for years)....
Bonnie Elbode
Undergraduate Library
5155 Gullen Mall
Wayne State University
Detroit, MI  48202
                     belbode@CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU
FAX:     (313) 577-5265





Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:30:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com>
Subject: Re: Origami Monopoly and money-patterned papers

Kristine (ktomlinson @ platinum.com)wrote about fear of folding Monopoly
money. Well, maybe not "fear," but I do understand the moral dilemma
involved---"do I fold the paper or play the game?"

I recall, as a kid, finding something in game directions about ordering
replacement money. Could this have been in my monopoly game? (It's
 long gone, so I can't check.)

If you can buy just the money from Parker Brothers, you could still
have plenty of money with which to play the game! Worth a careful
read of the directions if you have them.

Lisa
Lisa_hodsdon@hmco.com





Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:53:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: richardd@redac.co.uk (Richard Davies)
Subject: Re: Origami Monopoly and money-patterned papers

> Kristine (ktomlinson @ platinum.com)wrote about fear of folding Monopoly
> money. Well, maybe not "fear," but I do understand the moral dilemma
> involved---"do I fold the paper or play the game?"

> I recall, as a kid, finding something in game directions about ordering
> replacement money. Could this have been in my monopoly game? (It's
> long gone, so I can't check.)

You should be able to get very cheap paper money by buying old games from 2nd
hand sources, quite often for less than the price of a chocolate bar. After all,
you don't even care if all the pieces are there!

Rich

Richard Davies                Tel:         01684  294161 (ext 328)
Software Engineer             Fax:         01684  299754
Zuken-Redac Ltd                E-Mail:       richardd@redac.co.uk





Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:06:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: richardd@redac.co.uk (Richard Davies)
Subject: Origami in Action

According to Waterstones, "Origami in Action" isn't yet available in the UK.
     Unless someone can tell me different...

Rich

Richard Davies                Tel:         01684  294161 (ext 328)
Software Engineer             Fax:         01684  299754
Zuken-Redac Ltd                E-Mail:       richardd@redac.co.uk





Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:31:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: HOLMES DAVID MARCUS EXC CH <david_marcus.holmes@chbs.mhs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: Origami Monopoly and money-patterned papers

Hi,

>> > Kristine (ktomlinson @ platinum.com)wrote about fear of folding Monopoly
>> > money. Well, maybe not "fear," but I do understand the moral dilemma
>> > involved---"do I fold the paper or play the game?"
>>
>> > I recall, as a kid, finding something in game directions about ordering
>> > replacement money. Could this have been in my monopoly game? (It's
>> > long gone, so I can't check.)
>>
>> You should be able to get very cheap paper money by buying old games from
>>2nd
>> hand sources, quite often for less than the price of a chocolate bar. After
>>all,
>> you don't even care if all the pieces are there!
>>
>> Rich

Great idea, but what if the paper money is already pre-creased? ;^)

Dave

ps. BTW, I haven't posted for a while and recently I decided to
change my surname to my mother's maiden name... just so everyone
knows.  And yes, it *is* pronounced 'Folds' 8^)  Ironic, huh?

>--
>David M Foulds         |               Novartis, Inc.
>dmfoulds@bigfoot.com   |   Views expressed are my own
>-----------------------+-----------------------------
>Dave's Origami - http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/
>
> Please note my change of surname and email address
>   current name in header fields notwithstanding.





Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:47:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: HOLMES DAVID MARCUS EXC CH <david_marcus.holmes@chbs.mhs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: Origami in Action

>> According to Waterstones, "Origami in Action" isn't yet available in the
>>UK.
>> Unless someone can tell me different...
>>
>> Rich

Well this is at the top of my booklist for when I get back to England in
August, even above 'Programming Perl (2e)', so I hope it becomes
available
by then.  You could also try Dillons.

Dave

>--
>David M Foulds         |               Novartis, Inc.
>dmfoulds@bigfoot.com   |   Views expressed are my own
>-----------------------+-----------------------------
>Dave's Origami - http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/
>
> Please note my change of surname and email address
>   current name in header fields notwithstanding.





Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:47:57 -0300 (ADT)
From: havener3@delphi.com (geoline)
Subject: Paper, light, shadows, math, graphics, philosophia...

For a kewl journey into computer hacking art, math, philosophy and paper
folding, try Paul Haeberli's GRAFICA Obscura @:

http://www.sgi.com/grafica/

I admire a hacker who who can incorporate Carlos Casteneda and Zen dualism
into graphics design and paperfolding.

Geoline
havener3@delphi.com
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/momsai.html     <bonsai>
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/origami.html    <origami>





Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:57:43 -0300 (ADT)
From: havener3@delphi.com (geoline)
Subject: Re: Origami Monopoly and money-patterned papers

Lisa_hodsdon@hmco.com lamented:
>Kristine (ktomlinson @ platinum.com)wrote about fear of folding Monopoly
>money. Well, maybe not "fear," but I do understand the moral dilemma
>involved---"do I fold the paper or play the game?"

Oh my.

Speaking of games involving origami-ists,
how do origami-ists handle poker games without
        folding the bills,
        folding the cards or
        folding the hand?

Geoline
havener3@delphi.com
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/momsai.html     <bonsai>
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/origami.html    <origami>





Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 14:39:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: MSPARKS@pinkertons.com (MATTHEW SPARKS 05-025)
Subject: RE: Origami Monopoly and money-

Lisa_hodsdon@hmco.com wrote:
I recall, as a kid, finding something in game directions about ordering
replacement money. Could this have been in my monopoly game? (It's
 long gone, so I can't check.)

Monopoly money is available from Parker brothers. Also on occasion there   is
     replacement monopoly money sold at toys r us. If you ever play
     tournament monopoly, you need more money than comes with the game.

Matthew Makaala Sparks                          Desk (818) 380-8712
Senior Technical Support Specialist             Fax  (818) 380-8677
Pinkerton Security & Investigation Services     Pgr  (818) 315-4118
15910 Ventura Blvd.; Suite 900
Encino, CA  91436                               Ham Radio KE6GVI
  email = MSparks@Pinkertons.com
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 Say "Plugh"...                                 "XYZZY"





Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:42:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: hannap@juno.com (Hanna E Passmore)
Subject: Re: M'Aidez!  M'Aidez!

On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 12:20:05 -0300 (ADT) Mark Gilchrist
<mark@gilchrist.demon.co.uk> writes:
>I'm having major problems with the mailing list.  If you can read this
>
>email me please (privately, as I cant get any mail from yhe list at
>the
>moment!)
>
>mark@gilchrist.demon.co.uk
>
>You are not ready for immortality.
>
>
Got it!
-Hanna





Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:15:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jan_Polish@colpal.com (Jan Polish)
Subject: Panel Discussion at Origami Convention '97

     Hey ... thanks to some suggestions from the origami-l, Marc
     Kirschenbaum and I have put together a panel discussion on origami
     design for Techniques Day at the New York convention. The description
     for the schedule is: "Panel Discussion on Origami Design ... Join
     origami creators Marc Kirschenbaum, Michael LaFosse, Robert Lang, John
     Montroll, Jeremy Shafer, and Joseph Wu in a discussion of origami
     design and creativity. Jan Polish will moderate, but questions from
     the floor are encouraged."

     Do any of you have any questions you'd like to submit in advance?
     Whether you're going to be at the convention or not, we'll try to get
     your questions answered, and we hope to have at least a summary (if
     not a transcript) available soon after. So send your questions to me
     privately (please!) ... thanks, Jan Polish (jan_polish@colpal.com)





Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:45:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Zachary Brown <zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
Subject: Re: Panel Discussion at Origami Convention '97

>      Marc
>      Kirschenbaum and I have put together a panel discussion on origami
>      design for Techniques Day at the New York convention.

>      we hope to have at least a summary (if
>      not a transcript) available soon after.

If you might have a transcript, then wouldn't you also have an audio
tape?

Zack

>      Jan Polish (jan_polish@colpal.com)





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 10:38:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: JudithRcns@aol.com
Subject: New Book

Greetings fellow folders:
      The time has come to join the quest for the perfect fold. My name is
Lew Rozelle, soon you will be seeing a new book in the stores. St. Martin's
Press has published my first book on origami. "Origami in King Arthur's
Court" will appear in bookstores this August. If you would like to see a
preview of something never before attempted, please join me at-- <A HREF="http
://members.aol.com/judithrcns/home.htm">http://members.aol.com/judithrcns/home
.htm</A>
Please e-mail me back with your comments.
Lew Rozelle





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 11:26:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: "Secrets of Origami"

Hi David, Enjoyed hearing from you and hope to see you at the Convention in
June.How can I get a copy of secrets of Origami...is that the #4 book of his
series that has been unavailable for so long?  That is what I am looking for.
 Dorigami (Dorothy Kaplan)  I miss FOLD but not the responsibility of
participating in it. Do you think it will ever get on its feet again.





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:29:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: Charles Te <hiantote@brightok.net>
Subject: Re: "Secrets of Origami"

Stop sending me this crap.

Thanks

----------
> From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
> To: Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Subject: Re: "Secrets of Origami"
> Date: Tuesday, June 17, 1997 9:28 AM
>
> Hi David, Enjoyed hearing from you and hope to see you at the Convention
in
> June.How can I get a copy of secrets of Origami...is that the #4 book of
his
> series that has been unavailable for so long?  That is what I am looking
for.
>  Dorigami (Dorothy Kaplan)  I miss FOLD but not the responsibility of
> participating in it. Do you think it will ever get on its feet again.





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:34:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: Charles Te <hiantote@brightok.net>
Subject: Re: New Book

I would like to be off your mailing list.  This stuff is getting on my
nerves.

----------
> From: JudithRcns@aol.com
> To: Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Subject: New Book
> Date: Tuesday, June 17, 1997 8:40 AM
>
> Greetings fellow folders:
>       The time has come to join the quest for the perfect fold. My name
is
> Lew Rozelle, soon you will be seeing a new book in the stores. St.
Martin's
> Press has published my first book on origami. "Origami in King Arthur's
> Court" will appear in bookstores this August. If you would like to see a
> preview of something never before attempted, please join me at-- <A
HREF="http
>
://members.aol.com/judithrcns/home.htm">http://members.aol.com/judithrcns/ho
me
> .htm</A>
> Please e-mail me back with your comments.
> Lew Rozelle





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:26:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Re: New Book

Amazing! This one just went to the top of my wish list...and I have
a LONG wish list :->. By the way, couldn't get to the URL you listed,
but when I worked my way up I got to this one:

http://members.aol.com/judithrcns/index.htm

Looking forward to the publication! This book looks like alot of fun.

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com

> Greetings fellow folders:
>       The time has come to join the quest for the perfect fold. My name is
> Lew Rozelle, soon you will be seeing a new book in the stores. St. Martin's
> Press has published my first book on origami. "Origami in King Arthur's
> Court" will appear in bookstores this August. If you would like to see a
> preview of something never before attempted, please join me at-- <A HREF="http
> ://members.aol.com/judithrcns/home.htm">http://members.aol.com/judithrcns/home
> .htm</A>
> Please e-mail me back with your comments.
> Lew Rozelle





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:27:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: hannap@juno.com (Hanna E Passmore)
Subject: I need off the list!

I know this is drag, but all of my attempts to get off the list seem to
have failed.  Im leaving for a month in two days, and need to get off the
list befor I leave.  thanks for any help...
-Hanna





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:27:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: MSPARKS@pinkertons.com (MATTHEW SPARKS 05-025)
Subject: RE: New Book

 Lew Rozelle wrote: If you would like to see a
preview of something never before attempted, please join me at-- <A   HREF="http
://members.aol.com/judithrcns/home.htm">http://members.aol.com/judithrcns/  home
.htm</A>

I found the address to be :
   http://members.aol.com/judithrcns/index.htm

Neat!  a themed book using both modular and regular folds. It will   probably
     be a must have for anyone into King Aurthur.

Is there a holy grail fold?

Matthew Makaala Sparks                          Desk (818) 380-8712
Senior Technical Support Specialist             Fax  (818) 380-8677
Pinkerton Security & Investigation Services
15910 Ventura Blvd.; Suite 900
Encino, CA  91436                               Ham Radio KE6GVI
  email = MSparks@Pinkertons.com
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 Say "Plugh"...                                 "XYZZY"





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:28:00 -0300 (ADT)
From: skirsch@t-online.de (Sebastian Kirsch)
Subject: Soma Cube: diagrams on ftp.rug.nl

Hi!

I just uploaded the file soma.ps to ftp.rug.nl, and it will be available
as ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/models/soma.ps, as soon as maarten gets around
putting it into the right place.

It contains the diagrams for a soma cube folded from ticker tape.

This is only a beta version, and I'd like everyone on the list to take a
look at it, and inform me of any errors, mistakes, blunders, glitches or
anything alse that strikes him as unusual.

I also need your help to write a section about where to get ticker tape. I
know that you can get it in Germany from the Viereck Verlag, and there may
also occasionally be an office supply store that still has a few rolls on
stock. But I do not know at all what the situation is like in other
countries, and I'd very much like to get tips from you.

Thank you very much in advance for your help.

BTW: The model is also to be taught by Jan Polish at the OUSA convention
at the end of the month, and she'll hand out the diagrams. I want to get
them finished by them, so I'd like to get any tips as quickly as possible.

Yours, Sebastian               sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de,skirsch@t-online.de

PS: The PS file needs a PostScript Level 2 printer, and it may crash a few
printers that do not adhere to the PostScript standard. This is due to
some included JPEG pictures and a utility that prints two pages on one
physical page. Anyway, it always worked with GhostScript. If anyone here
experiences problems, I'll also upload a plain version, without photos.





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:28:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: Aurora Lozada <alozada@notes.cc.bellcore.com>
Subject: Re: New Book

Oh my!! We are getting testy.  If you do not like to be included in the mail
take your name off the origami-l listing or bear with it like the rest of us.
Delete the stuff you don't want like the rest of us.
From: hiantote @ brightok.net ("Charles Te") @ smtp
Date: 06/17/97 01:34:21 PM
Subject: Re: New Book

I would like to be off your mailing list.  This stuff is getting on my
nerves.

----------
> From: JudithRcns@aol.com
> To: Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Subject: New Book
> Date: Tuesday, June 17, 1997 8:40 AM
>
> Greetings fellow folders:
>       The time has come to join the quest for the perfect fold. My name
is
> Lew Rozelle, soon you will be seeing a new book in the stores. St.
Martin's
> Press has published my first book on origami. "Origami in King Arthur's
> Court" will appear in bookstores this August. If you would like to see a
> preview of something never before attempted, please join me at-- <A
HREF="http
>
://members.aol.com/judithrcns/home.htm">http://members.aol.com/judithrcns/ho
me
> .htm</A>
> Please e-mail me back with your comments.
> Lew Rozelle





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:28:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: Re: M'Aidez!  M'Aidez!

I got your message - is your problem fixed?

Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:39:43 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Books from Japan

You can now order books and magazines directly from Japan from this
bookstore:

http://www.trc.co.jp/trc-eng/index.htm

They accept credit cards and ship internationally. Their database
only lists titles back to 1995 but they are willing to try to get any
title you ask for from the publisher. Their English pages list new
books of the day/week, but I haven't seen any origami books yet. I do
know that they have 30 origami titles in their database, but I
haven't gotten a full listing yet. Just these titles w/prices in yen:

> **95028474:"Manpuku Box" \1262
> **95019797:"Origamu Quilt" \1262
> **95032086:"Origami Design" \1262
> **95023848:"Origami Spiral" \1262
> **95035594:"Origami de Tsukuru Gift Box" \2330 Check out the picture
> at http://www.trc.co.jp/945/95035594.jpg *:95035381:"Kurashi wo
> Irodoru Yuyu no Origami" \1262 **96027796:"Kurashi wo Irodoru
> Rakuraku no Origami" \1262 **95035023:"Ugokashite Asobou Origami no
> Hon " \757 Picture available at
> http://www.trc.co.jp/944/95035023.jpg **96022825:"Seimei Yutakana
> Origami" \3800

The shipping seems reasonable too.

Haven't gotten my "customer number" yet so I haven't ordered
myself....It's my birthday though so I thought I would give everyone
this present :->....

Enjoy!

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 18:37:19 -0300 (ADT)
From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com>
Subject: wedding models

 Do you have suggestions for good models for table decorations
 for an outdoor wedding?

 I've heard wonderful things about "The Last Waltz," but apparently
 the diagrams are not in print. It isn't in the model database at the
 archives. Previous messages to Origami-l list sources of diagrams as
 BOS booklet #10 & possible ORU 12. Can anyone tell me if either
 of these is correct? If the book isn't in print, I suspect I could make
 arrangements to borrow the book if I know what book to try to borrow.

 I'm open to other suggestions, preferably with a source for the
 diagrams.

 Lisa (I think I'm still around 300 cranes til August)
 Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 19:02:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: Contractors Exchange <contract@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: wedding models

At 06:37 PM 6/17/97 -0300,"Lisa Hodsdon"<Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com> wrote:
>
> Do you have suggestions for good models for table decorations
> for an outdoor wedding?
>
> I've heard wonderful things about "The Last Waltz," but apparently
> the diagrams are not in print. It isn't in the model database at the
> archives. Previous messages to Origami-l list sources of diagrams as
> BOS booklet #10 & possible ORU 12. Can anyone tell me if either
> of these is correct? If the book isn't in print, I suspect I could make
> arrangements to borrow the book if I know what book to try to borrow.

Those are the two books that model is in (it was almost in the upcomming
Annual Collection, but we did not receive permission to publish in time).
At a simpler level, heart related models should be good. Francis Ow has
some nice ones in his series of books.

Marc





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:07:06 -0300 (ADT)
From: JudithRcns@aol.com
Subject: New Book Problems

I just found that a problem exists with the web site for the new book
"Origami in King Arthur's Court". If you have a problem getting into the web
site try <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/judithrcns/index.htm">http://members.
aol.com/judithrcns/index.htm</A>
I understand that this will also allow entry
Lew Rozelle





Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 21:48:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michel Bartolone <bartolon@execpc.com>
Subject: Another teaching story

Its been quite a while since I wrote. A business trip, and my family
has taken priority for a while, but today I am making time..time for
me. :) Be forwarned..this has only minimal origami content, and is
not anywhere NEAR as inspiring a tale as the one about Angela...

As most of you know I have been teaching origami in the local schools
and libraries for a few years. The third class I taught was one of my
favorite classes. My younger sister is a librarian in our home town.
Its a small library...but its very nicely done. During the summer months
as most libraries do, they have story hour for the kids. My sister was
in charge of organizing volunteers to do the readings that year. The idea
was to get someone from the community that could share a bit more than
just reading a book. My sister also knew that I'd been heavily involved
in the theater when I was in school, so she put two and two together and
came up with me reading the story of Sadako and then teaching the kids
to make a model to take home. I thought it was a pretty good idea. My
eldest son (12 years old at the time) also offered to come along and
help with the folding part. The day arrived, and the weather was really
nice...but of course nothing goes exactly as planned. We got ready to
go shopping for the paper, and my car wouldn't start. After troubleshooting
and fixing the car we were a bit short of time. I called my sister and
told her we were on our way, but that we wouldn't have any paper to
bring or we would be late. She went and got a stack of copier paper and
had some nice diamond shaped paper for us when we got there...the paper
cutter was off and was cutting pretty severe irregular quadrilaterals...
but we figured we could fix it..the paper, not the cutter. Then the
kids started arriving...I was terrified...30 kids...they were ALL pre
schoolers!!! Worse yet, I went to school with most of the mothers!!!!! So I
started by showing the mom's how to make squares from rectangles and started
telling the story. Now Sadako is pretty heavy stuff for pre-schoolers...its
a bit heavy for some forth graders! But I did my best to make it a little
easier to swallow without changing the story. None of the kids were upset
thank goodness. Then it came time to fold. I was very very glad that
my son Antonio was with me..and that the mother's had all hung around. We
only had about 20 minutes to the official time left! Tony and I did have
but we made certain that every one of the kids left with a nice crane.
Occationally I get a note from my sister..one or more of the mom's will stop
by and ask if I am going to come back and some of the time the kids will even
come back and give them more origami for the library. They also had to go
and buy a few books about how to fold origami.

Kind of makes me feel like an origami pied piper...hopefully one or more
of them will grow up and teach another group of kids...





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 00:28:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@pb.net>
Subject: Re: OrigamiUSA Convention
on our badges? We could cut a little strip off one of the sticky labels that
     are in the
envelope that we get at convention registration. If we affix it to the left
     side of our
badges, we'll easily recognize each other.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:21:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Wanted: tiger

I'm looking for instructions for a tiger or other wild cat (but not a
lion).  I know about Engel's tiger in his Folding Universe, but it's
not quite what I'm looking for.  Any suggestions?  Either on the net
or in a published book will be fine.

Thanks.

-Joel
(joel@exc.com)





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:24:57 -0300 (ADT)
From: Devin McPherson <devmc@oeonline.com>
Subject: Re: Wanted: tiger

Dr. Joel M. Hoffman wrote:

> I'm looking for instructions for a tiger or other wild cat (but not a
> lion).  I know about Engel's tiger in his Folding Universe, but it's
> not quite what I'm looking for.  Any suggestions?  Either on the net
> or in a published book will be fine.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Joel
> (joel@exc.com)

Try Montrolls ,Origami Inside-Out. It has a tiger that uses the two
sides of the paper to create the stripes.

--
-=[Devin]=-

http://oeonline.com/~devmc/origami.html

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 Thanks to AOL, we know thats not true.





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:04:00 -0300 (ADT)
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Wanted: tiger

>> I'm looking for instructions for a tiger or other wild cat (but not a
>> lion).  I know about Engel's tiger in his Folding Universe, but it's
>> not quite what I'm looking for.  Any suggestions?  Either on the net
>> or in a published book will be fine.
>
>Try Montrolls ,Origami Inside-Out. It has a tiger that uses the two
>sides of the paper to create the stripes.

I've seen that one, too, but --- while its use of two colors is very
clever, the head doesn't look at all like a tiger, and the body only
vaguely resembles one, at least in my opinion.  I'm looking for
something that captures the "wild-cat-ness" of the tiger....

-Joel
(joel@exc.com)





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:06:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: Wayne Fluharty <wflu@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Tiger wanted

David Brill has a wonderful family (pride?) of lions in his book
"Brilliant Origami".

Wayne Fluharty
wflu@hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:06:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: wedding models

Lisa Hodsdon wrote:

    I've heard wonderful things about "The Last Waltz," but apparently
    the diagrams are not in print. It isn't in the model database at the
    archives. Previous messages to Origami-l list sources of diagrams as
    BOS booklet #10 & possible ORU 12. Can anyone tell me if either
    of these is correct? If the book isn't in print, I suspect I could make
    arrangements to borrow the book if I know what book to try to borrow.

I don't remember which ORU it is in, 12 sounds right.  I have all of
them, and it's on the cover of one.  I made it from the directions
inside.  I can get you copies of the directions.  How soon do you need
them?

By the way, I bought a roll of black "Fadeless" art paper, to make
them from, and was unhappy with the results.  The black color came off
on my fingers and smeared (very slightly) on the white parts of the
paper.  I don't know what other paper to use for this model.  Kami
isn't big enough.  Does anyone else have a preferred paper source for
this model?

        -- Jeannine Mosely





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:18:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: John Marcolina <jmarcoli@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: Wanted: tiger

Try the bobcat (I think) in "Super Complex Origami". I looks like it's ready
to pounce. You can obtain the book from Sasuga on the web. This is a great
book too.

John Marcolina
San Jose, CA.
jmarcoli@cisco.com

At 12:04 PM 6/18/97 -0300, you wrote:
>>Try Montrolls ,Origami Inside-Out. It has a tiger that uses the two
>>sides of the paper to create the stripes.
>
>I've seen that one, too, but --- while its use of two colors is very
>clever, the head doesn't look at all like a tiger, and the body only
>vaguely resembles one, at least in my opinion.  I'm looking for
>something that captures the "wild-cat-ness" of the tiger....
>
>-Joel
>(joel@exc.com)
>
>
John Marcolina
jmarcoli@cisco.com
x52817





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:22:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: NO: test message; have problem

Just a test, I'm having trouble with the listserver
since Compuserve changed my address.
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:26:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@sci.fi>
Subject: Re: Wanted: tiger

>I'm looking for instructions for a tiger or other wild cat (but not a
>lion).  I know about Engel's tiger in his Folding Universe, but it's
>not quite what I'm looking for.  Any suggestions?  Either on the net
>or in a published book will be fine.

I'm sorry I can't help you, but if you find anything really tiger-like
please let me know. I have been looking for "real tiger" too, but so far
haven't find any model which has captured the beauty of the animal.

Jorma "tiger-addict" Oksanen
--
Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

"It's a good thing the average person doesn't realize
 the awesome destructive power of origami"              Earthworm Jim





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:35:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: Paula Larsen <paular@Relations.usu.edu>
Subject: Re: wedding models

>
> Lisa Hodsdon wrote:
>
>     I've heard wonderful things about "The Last Waltz," but
>     apparently the diagrams are not in print. It isn't in the model
>     database at the archives. Previous messages to Origami-l list
>     sources of diagrams as BOS booklet #10 & possible ORU 12. Can
>     anyone tell me if either of these is correct? If the book isn't
>     in print, I suspect I could make arrangements to borrow the book
>     if I know what book to try to borrow.
>
> I don't remember which ORU it is in, 12 sounds right.  I have all of
> them, and it's on the cover of one.  I made it from the directions
> inside.  I can get you copies of the directions.  How soon do you
> need them?

Jeanine, could you please send me copies also?  I can send $ and
SASE.
--Paula Larsen

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Paula Larsen
Webmaster/Assistant University Editor
Editorial Services
Utah State University
801-797-3902
paular@relations.usu.edu





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:45:00 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@compuserve.com>
Subject: NO: Get 'em off the list!

I know there is at least one person on the list who
knows how to "spoof" internet addresses. Could maybe
one of you get these folks who are having problems
unsubscribing off the list? Especially the jerk with
no manners, who hides his invective under different
subject headings: hiantote@brightok.net ?

Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:03:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Re: Wanted: tiger

> >> I'm looking for instructions for a tiger or other wild cat (but not a
> >> lion).  I know about Engel's tiger in his Folding Universe, but it's
> >> not quite what I'm looking for.  Any suggestions?  Either on the net
> >> or in a published book will be fine.
> >
The lioness in David Brill's book is great. It could pass for other
big cats if you really don't want a "lion". And I believe there is
 a nice big cat in Fascinente Papiroflexia; although I think that
one is made from two pieces of paper.

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:11:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Re: wedding models

> By the way, I bought a roll of black "Fadeless" art paper, to make
> them from, and was unhappy with the results.  The black color came off
> on my fingers and smeared (very slightly) on the white parts of the
> paper.  I don't know what other paper to use for this model.  Kami
> isn't big enough.  Does anyone else have a preferred paper source for
> this model?

Well, I haven't cut it into squares and tried it yet, but I found
some black gift wrap at Hallmark. (I owe a friend a soccer ball :->.)
Expect it will work fine though. Seems like typical gift wrap.

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:14:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: wedding models

> The Elias booklets *are* in print & on special offer at the moment, all
> three for UKP15 plus postage. Quote me when taking advantage of this!
>
> all the best,
>
> Nick Robinson

Sorry Nick the above information is NOT correct. The facsimiles of the
Elias notebooks may still be available, but the Elias booklet, BOS #10
which contains the diagrams for "the last waltz" is NOT. I should know,
I keep complaining about the failure of the BOS to keep in print its
wonderful selection of booklets! Perhaps the BOS council should adopt
this as its 30th anniversary resolution - to reprint ALL the booklets
currently out of print, and to keep ALL the booklets in print. That would
be a real present to the world wide community of lovers of origami!

Richard K.
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:17:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Dennis Brannon <brannon@jamin.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Need help identifying lizard model

I hope you can help me.  While hunting for a good lizard model, I saw in the
     Spring 1997 issue of
OrigamiUSA's "The Paper" a picture of two lizards on the Christmas Tree.  Its
     the middle picture
on page 5.  Can anybody identify the model and do diagrams exist of it?

thanks,
dennis
---------------
Dennis Brannon
Ayer, Massachusetts USA
brannon@jamin.enet.dec.com





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:20:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: Sandra Wambold <wambold@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: NO: Get 'em off the list!

> I know there is at least one person on the list who
> knows how to "spoof" internet addresses. Could maybe
> one of you get these folks who are having problems
> unsubscribing off the list? Especially the jerk with
> no manners, who hides his invective under different
> subject headings: hiantote@brightok.net ?

I helped the one who was polite.

If anyone needs to get off the list, please send me mail and I'll try
to unsubscribe you.

-sew





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:23:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: Dennis Walker <d_and_m_walker@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re. wanted tiger

There is a very good tiger by Dokuohtei Nakano. It's one of my favourite
models.
The source I have is British Origami Magazine 119.

There is also a very complex tiger by Issei Yoshino. In this case the
source is the
BOS Convention Book for York 1995. This may be available from the BOS
website.
Hope that this is some help.

For a wildcat, I quite like the 'Bobcat' in North American Animals in
Origami, book by
Montroll, model by Fumiaki Kawahata.

                Dennis.





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:26:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net>
Subject: Re: wedding models

Nick Robinson wrote:

> The Elias booklets *are* in print & on special offer at the moment, all
> three for UKP15 plus postage. Quote me when taking advantage of this!
>
> all the best,
>
> Nick Robinson

Hi, does any one know what that come to in US dollars??  (hard to find
out out in small towns in the midwest[read Iowa])
Perry
--
>From pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net

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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:29:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: wedding models

Earlier today I offered to make copies of diagrams for "The Last
Waltz" for a list member.  Now I realize that I made a mistake.  I
originally meant to post only to Lisa, but then I wanted input from
the list members over the appropriate paper to use, and I also thought
that letting folks know that Lisa had a source would prevent us from
having to listen to a dozen other people's suggestions about how to
get the diagrams.

Now I've got other people asking me for copies, too.  And since
learning the BOS booklets are in print (and at a relatively low
price), I can't justify making copies by saying there are no other
sources.

I know there's been a lot of discussion in the past over when it is
permissible to copy diagrams, but I can't remember the result of those
talks.  I don't want to do anything illegal, or even unethical, so I'm
afraid I have to retract my offer.

But Lisa, since you live nearby, I'll be glad to lend you my ORU #12.

        -- Jeannine Mosely





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:32:36 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mark Gilchrist <mark@gilchrist.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Mayday II

Got them...let's see if I can recieve mail from the list soon!  Much
thankings!

--
Mark

Leave this place. They are not for you.





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:39:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Goveia, William P" <wgoveia@indiana.edu>
Subject: RE: NO: Get 'em off the list!

..and I sent unsubscription instructions to the rude person, along with
advice to be a little less abrasive next time.  After all, he
voluntarily subscribed at some point...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandra Wambold [SMTP:wambold@pobox.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 1997 1:22 PM
>
> [Goveia, William P]  SNIP
>
>  > unsubscribing off the list? Especially the jerk with
> > no manners, who hides his invective under different
> > subject headings: hiantote@brightok.net ?
>
> I helped the one who was polite.
>
> If anyone needs to get off the list, please send me mail and I'll try
> to unsubscribe you.
>
> -sew





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 16:27:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: BOS Booklet availability (was: wedding models)

Richard Kennedy, in reply to Nick Robinson, wrote:
+Sorry Nick the above information is NOT correct. The facsimiles of the
+Elias notebooks may still be available, but the Elias booklet, BOS #10
+which contains the diagrams for "the last waltz" is NOT. I should know,
+I keep complaining about the failure of the BOS to keep in print its
+wonderful selection of booklets! Perhaps the BOS council should adopt
+this as its 30th anniversary resolution - to reprint ALL the booklets
+currently out of print, and to keep ALL the booklets in print. That would
+be a real present to the world wide community of lovers of origami!

Here here!!

I've suggested before the possibility of reprinting the booklets in a
larger size, say one "A" size bigger, so that two adjacent pages in the
"original" format would be on one side of the new format.  I don't know the
costs of publishing, whether the number of sheets or the sheet size dominates
the printing costs, etc.

Presumably BOS holds the necessary copyrights to pull this off?

Hey, why not just scan the suckers and put them on a CD?  Not an ideal
form for many reasons, but heck, I'd rather have them that way than not
at all!

-Doug





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 16:51:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: Dennis Brannon <brannon@jamin.enet.dec.com>
Subject: RE: wedding models

> By the way, I bought a roll of black "Fadeless" art paper, to make
> them from, and was unhappy with the results.  The black color came off
> on my fingers and smeared (very slightly) on the white parts of the
> paper.  I don't know what other paper to use for this model.  Kami
> isn't big enough.  Does anyone else have a preferred paper source for
> this model?

I've tried black wrapping paper from multiple sources and have yet to
find some that doesn't have the black rub off.  I've considered using
plastic gloves to solve the problem, but I haven't tried that yet.
I'm guessing the black color comes off because of sweat on my fingertips.
Kami is the only black/white paper I've found that doesn't smear Penguins.

dennis
-------------
Dennis Brannon
brannon@jamin.enet.dec.com





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 17:50:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com>
Subject: OT (or NORM) Anyone going to Art & Math?

 Bad scheduling is preventing me from attending both the OUSA
 convention in NY and Art & Math. Is anyone going to Art & Math
 who would be willing to keep an eye out for interesting artists
 for me?

 Private responses, please.

 Thanks.

 Lisa
 Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com

 If you haven't heard:

 Art & Math is the weekend & week before the OUSA convention.
 It's held at SUNY and Robert Lang posted the full information about
 it a while ago. Search the archives if you're interested.





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:30:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: fold4wet@juno.com (Rosalind F Joyce)
Subject: Re: Need help identifying lizard model

I made the lizards using plasitc coated florist foil, 4 x 1.  The model
is in an old Harbin book, ORIGAMI 4.  The lizard is Max Hulme's.  Don't
be misled by the diagrams.  With a little sculpting, you produce a
reptile with tons of personality.

Ros





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:31:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: fold4wet@juno.com (Rosalind F Joyce)
Subject: Re: wedding models(last waltz)

For "The Last Waltz" models, I use black foil for white dress and black
tuxedo, plasitc coated florist foil for multi-patterned dresses and gold
or silver tux.  They are stunning when finished.  Alufoil makes the black
foil on white paper, but be careful; some rolls behave and other's lose
the black color or split.  I think it will be taught at the convention.

Ros Joyce





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:34:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: JacAlArt@aol.com
Subject: Re: New Book

Are all models modular, or are there any intermediate or complex folds?

~Alec





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:50:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: JacAlArt@aol.com
Subject: Re: Wanted: tiger

ORU #7 (Winter 1994) contains a tiger with very powerful front haunches and a
great detailed face. Creator? Don't know -- can't read Japanese. Diagrams are
clear enough to fold without knowledge of Japanese. Complex.

ISSEI'S SUPER COMPLEX ORIGAMI by the late Issei Yoshino contains a wildcat of
sorts. Starts with a frog base. Posed to pounce with mouth wide open showing
teeth and "whiskery frills". Again, in Japanese, but clear diagrams. Very
complex.

Plus those Montroll books others have mentioned. (Inside-out tiger and
bobcat.)

~Alec





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 21:02:59 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Wanted: tiger

On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 JacAlArt@aol.com wrote:

> ORU #7 (Winter 1994) contains a tiger with very powerful front haunches and a
> great detailed face. Creator? Don't know -- can't read Japanese. Diagrams are
> clear enough to fold without knowledge of Japanese. Complex.

I'll check on this one for you. There's another tiger in Oru #14 by
KOMATSU Hideo. Diagrams will be appearing in the next 5 issues of the
Origami Tanteidan newsletter.

> ISSEI'S SUPER COMPLEX ORIGAMI by the late Issei Yoshino contains a wildcat of
> sorts. Starts with a frog base. Posed to pounce with mouth wide open showing
> teeth and "whiskery frills". Again, in Japanese, but clear diagrams. Very
> complex.

Yoshino calls this a tiger.

P.S. Hiya folks! I'm back! 8)

          Joseph Wu           It's your privilege as an artist to inflict
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   the pain of creativity on yourself. We can
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami you how YOU paint. There's More Than One Way
 Webmaster, DATT Japan Inc.   To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
    http://www.datt.co.jp                 --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 21:09:54 -0300 (ADT)
From: joel@exc.com (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Wanted: tiger

>ORU #7 (Winter 1994) contains a tiger with very powerful front haunches and a
>great detailed face. Creator? Don't know -- can't read Japanese. Diagrams are
>clear enough to fold without knowledge of Japanese. Complex.

What's ORU #7?  Can I order a copy?

-Joel
(joel@exc.com)





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 00:29:33 -0300 (ADT)
From: candice bradley/daniel byrne <candice@samara.co.zw>
Subject: Re: Rabbit review.

Doug --

Are you keeping track of the lizard and tiger stuff too?  Tiger review
would be pretty cool.

Candice

Doug Philips wrote:
>
> The reviews of rabbit models that I posted to this list recently are
> now also on the web.  I used tables, but even with an old-ish 'lynx'
> browser they look OK.  You can get to the review page from my main
> origami page:
>         http://www.pgh.net/~dwp/origami/Origami.html





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:12:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@pb.net>
Subject: Re: wedding models

By the way, I bought a roll of black "Fadeless" art paper, to make
them from, and was unhappy with the results.  The black color came off
on my fingers and smeared (very slightly) on the white parts of the
paper.  I don't know what other paper to use for this model.  Kami
isn't big enough.  Does anyone else have a preferred paper source for
this model?

        -- Jeannine Mosely

When I originally bought the black foil rolls of gift wrap from Alufoil, I was
ecstatic; however, after the first few rolls, they have all been a
     disappointment. The
color rubs off - although it doesn't transfer to the white side. It can be
     touched up
with permanent black marker afterward. I even went to the factory, discussed it
with the owner and he opened a couple of rolls and couldn't find a "good" one.
He insists that the rolls I got all came from the same master roll and I must be
mistaken. I'm not! Perhaps someone has another source of black foil gift wrap.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 02:08:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: Charles Knuffke <knuffke@sirius.com>
Subject: Re: OrigamiUSA Convention

>To recognize fellow members of this list at the convention, how about a
>white line "l"
>on our badges? We could cut a little strip off one of the sticky labels
>that are in the
>envelope that we get at convention registration. If we affix it to the
>left side of our
>badges, we'll easily recognize each other.
>
>
>Rachel Katz
>Origami - it's not just for squares!

Another idea for those of us that append a standard signature to our
E-Mails would be to append a copy of the signature to our name badges.

Regards,

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Charles Knuffke       "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"
San Francisco, CA                              -Jack Kerouac
mailto://knuffke@sirius.com

Check out the Pacific Coast Origami Conference Website at:
http://www.sirius.com/~knuffke/PCOC.html





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 03:54:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: wedding models

RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk> sez

> but the Elias booklet, BOS #10
>which contains the diagrams for "the last waltz" is NOT. I should know,

Quite right & here's me working for supplies!

>I keep complaining about the failure of the BOS to keep in print its
>wonderful selection of booklets! Perhaps the BOS council should adopt
>this as its 30th anniversary resolution - to reprint ALL the booklets

I know the damnd & wil is there, so the only problem is money - once
we've reduced our stock levels of existing booklets, we can & will do
the lot.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with real Audio clips!





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 06:08:06 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@sci.fi>
Subject: RE: NO: Get 'em off the list!

On 18-Jun-97, Goveia, William P (wgoveia@indiana.edu) wrote:
>..and I sent unsubscription instructions to the rude person, along with
>advice to be a little less abrasive next time.  After all, he
>voluntarily subscribed at some point...

Not necessarily. If you know how to unsubscribe someone, you know how
to subscribe him. Some mailing lists send new subscribers verify
message and add him/her/it only if this verification is replied.

Jorma "I'd do anything for love, but I won't do that!" Oksanen
--
Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

"It's a good thing the average person doesn't realize
 the awesome destructive power of origami"              Earthworm Jim





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 08:19:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: BOS Booklet availability (was: wedding models)

Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com> sez

>I've suggested before the possibility of reprinting the booklets in a
>larger size, say one "A" size bigger, so that two adjacent pages in the

Nice idea - I'll pass it on...

>Presumably BOS holds the necessary copyrights to pull this off?

Yes...

>Hey, why not just scan the suckers and put them on a CD?  Not an ideal
>form for many reasons, but heck, I'd rather have them that way than not

The BOS - specifically david Petty (d.petty@hzg.sc.philips.com) is
looking to make a BOS CD - your idea is a natural follow-on - drop him a
line & suggest it!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with real Audio clips!





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 08:27:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: The Aronson's <aronson5@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: ID at the OrigamiUSA Convention

OR...I have a pack of 600 very small red apple stickers that I would be
happy to bring to the convention and start handing out Friday night to all
who are part of this list.  This small sticker on your badge could clearly
identify all of the list members!

I will leave several sheets at the main information desk for the rest of you
to pick up as you arrive and this should solve the problem.  After all, the
convention is in the Big Apple - OK?

Ellen Aronson





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 09:20:40 -0300 (ADT)
From: Teik Seong <tkteik@mbox2.singnet.com.sg>
Subject: Con Air

Hi there,

        Sometime ago, there was some talk about the show Con Air. And someone
     actually gave a brief
sypnosis of the whole movie. But after my friend watched it today, the story
     seems to be completely different
and the only part containing any sign of origami is at the start of it, in
     which a crane was shown. Would the
writer of the sypnosis kindly explain himself? Or is there suppose to be
     different versions of this show? (Which
I don't think so.)

Regards,
Teik.





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 10:03:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: Matthias Gutfeldt <Tanjit@bboxbbs.ch>
Subject: Origami Homepage moved...

Dear all,

for those that can't access my homepage in Switzerland at
http://www.bboxbbs.ch/home/tanjit/origami I have copied it
to Geocities, the HUGE homepage host. The URL is:

http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/temple/1299

It's not quite perfect yet (a picture went dataway...) but
I hope you can access this site and finally read my report
about the Origami Deutschland Convention in Wurzburg!

Matthias, cursing his ISP





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 10:05:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: JudithRcns@aol.com
Subject: Re: New Book

Dear Matthew;
Thank you for your comments. The original book size was 263 pages. Many of
the original models had to be left out due to length restricitons. Perhaps a
sequel will be in order.
Lew Rozelle





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 12:04:29 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Goveia, William P" <wgoveia@indiana.edu>
Subject: RE: NO: Get 'em off the list!

My bad.  I stand corrected.  At any rate, I have mailed him
instructions, and the advice.  Never hurts to try and be polite.

Recently there have been several people wanting off of the list, and I
typically mail them a copy of the pertinent portions of the FAQ on found
on Maarten's web site...If they have been polite, I extend an offer to
help them out if I can, and if they are rude, most of the time I just
mail the instructions, but every now and then I can't resist offering
the old "you win more flies with honey" routine...

I guess the point I am trying to make is that we can mail these folks
directly with the instructions.  I know it's kid of a hassle, but if
people are being "spoofed" onto the list as has been suggested, perhaps
it is a courtesy a few of us could extend.  I really don't mind doing it
*occasionally*.  This would reduce Off-topic traffic, and help the
"Hapless and Helpless Origami Victims" in getting off the list.  My $.02
anyway...

William Goveia, LAN Operations and Applications Specialist
Education Technology Services
School of Education, Indiana University at Bloomington
http://education.indiana.edu/~wgoveia

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jorma Oksanen [SMTP:tenu@sci.fi]
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 1997 4:08 AM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:      RE: NO: Get 'em off the list!
>
> On 18-Jun-97, Goveia, William P (wgoveia@indiana.edu) wrote:
> >..and I sent unsubscription instructions to the rude person, along
> with
> >advice to be a little less abrasive next time.  After all, he
> >voluntarily subscribed at some point...
>
> Not necessarily. If you know how to unsubscribe someone, you know how
> to subscribe him. Some mailing lists send new subscribers verify
> message and add him/her/it only if this verification is replied.
>
>
> Jorma "I'd do anything for love, but I won't do that!" Oksanen
> --
> Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi
>
> "It's a good thing the average person doesn't realize
>  the awesome destructive power of origami"              Earthworm Jim





Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 12:06:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: tait@earthlink.net
Subject: apple stickers

Yes Ellen, little apples for the Big Apple- sounds good to me! Thanks
for bringing them for origami-l listers at the convention.

Regards,
Tricia
