




Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 00:42:57 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: : Re: palmer model in $400 book

> > Just found the book listing above. If you are interested, the
> > bookseller is truepenny books (http://www.tdigital.com/truepenny/).

 By the way according
> to the listing on the booksellers webpage the seven
> special copies with my rose sell for $865 each.
> (The 75 copies at $400 each do not incorporate my work.)
>  The price is beyond my budget as well.  From what I
> saw of the project (before I left) and what I know of the
> quality of their work, it is an accurate reflection of the
> time and skill that went into the production of this edition.
>
>   Chris K. Palmer

I doubt that this price  is an "accurate reflection"! Based on  the
description of these books, if you calculated the income per hour,  I
would be surprised if the Thomases even made the minimum wage.

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 00:42:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: palmer model in $400 book

Pat Slider wrote:
+>....... Chris Palmer has taken a large rose-colored piece of Peter's
+> handmade paper, and using a folding system he invented specifically
+> for this book, formed a three-dimensional paper rose in its center.
+> This rose has been pasted onto boards in a unique quarter leather
+> binding by the Thomases.  .....
+>....... They are published here for the first time. US$395.00
+>
+> Just found the book listing above. If you are interested, the
+> bookseller is truepenny books (http://www.tdigital.com/truepenny/).

Chris Palmer, via Allen Parry wrote:
+to the listing on the booksellers webpage the seven
+special copies with my rose sell for $865 each.
..
+quality of their work, it is an accurate reflection of the
+time and skill that went into the production of this edition.

Since this is also above my threshold I got to wondering, maybe a bunch of us
should chip in and buy a copy for OUSA?  I'd be willing to toss in $100.
But then I started wondering, would OUSA be able to store it properly?
Jan, Tom, Marc????

-Doug





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 02:47:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami Books for blind people

Regarding Origami Books for the Blind......Many years ago I had a book
published called Perceptual Development Through Paperfolding.  It was a
manual and a record or audio tape and came as a kit with 500 sheets of paper.
 This was discovered at the Overbrook School for the Blind and was very
favorably accepted for its clarity of instruction on the audio tape which was
exactly the same instruction as in the manual. The manual could be used by
the teacher as an aid to instructionr.  I still have some available and if
interested, people who have vision problems or teachers of the blind can get
in touch with me by E-mail.  Dorigami





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 02:45:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Getting dropped from List

Valerie or anyone, When we are dropped by the listserver and then get on
again does it give us all the missed mail during the interim?  Thank you for
an answer. Dorigami





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 08:26:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: fiona <longsand@singnet.com.sg>
Subject: kawasaki rose

Hi,
I've recently joined this list and have heard a lot about the Kawasaki rose
as appeared in the "Origami for the Connoisseur". I tried hard to find the
book here in Singapore but have been informed by one of the major
bookstores here that the book is out of print. I was wondering if any of
you have diagrammed the procedure for this fold, or perhaps some of you may
be so nice as to scan the pages (which is pg. 128-131 I think) out of the
book for me? :)

Thanks a lot.

Fiona Chan





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 09:43:36 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@erols.com>
Subject: Re: kawasaki rose

fiona wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I've recently joined this list and have heard a lot about the Kawasaki rose
> as appeared in the "Origami for the Connoisseur". I tried hard to find the
> book here in Singapore but have been informed by one of the major
> bookstores here that the book is out of print. I was wondering if any of
> you have diagrammed the procedure for this fold, or perhaps some of you may
> be so nice as to scan the pages (which is pg. 128-131 I think) out of the
> book for me? :)
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Fiona Chan

Rose in "Origami for the Connoisseur" is Kawasaki's earlier version.
New version can be found in
ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/models/rosekawa/index.htm

Have fun!

|------------------------------------------------------\
|  _     Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) <chens@asme.org>     |\
| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:30:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: Zachary Brown <zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
Subject: Re: Getting dropped from List

> Valerie or anyone, When we are dropped by the listserver and then get on
> again does it give us all the missed mail during the interim?  Thank you for
> an answer. Dorigami

No. If it did, that would indicate that it treats dropped people
different from people who unsubscribe, which it doesn't. Getting dropped
is not a punishment the program cooks up to discourage people from
failing to receive mail. A better way to look at it is, there are two
ways to unsubscribe from the list. You can either send a message
requesting it, or you can fail to receive a message from the list. Both
do the same thing.

Zack





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 16:07:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: palmer model in $400 book

<<buy OUSA a copy... could they take care of it?

OUSA does have a "library", though this doesn't sound like something
to lend out; plus they have a model collection. Since they share
the space of the Museum of Natural History (presumably because of
a connection with one of the founders?, I've always pictured the
model collection as stored in those little "artifact" boxes museums
use for minerals and bugs and such.) Anyway, if they don't have a
big enough box to keep such a book in, we could buy them one from
Gaylord's library supply (they sell all kinds of acid free archival
storage boxes for museum artifacts, rare/fragile printed materials, etc.)

I'd be willing to chip in too to buy OUSA a copy; since it's over
my price range (even for a rabid book collector :-) too, it would
be nice to know there was one at OUSA I could "visit" if I ever do
get to a convention... Who better to have a copy than the national
origami organization?

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 16:16:50 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Getting dropped from List

<< or you can fail to receive a message from the list

Meaning, I assume, that a message from the listserver is rejected
by the addressee's system. Which causes the listserver to assume
that the addressee's address is invalid, so it drops you from
the list.

And our listserver seems to be pretty trigger happy about bounced
mail; your system doen't have be down for long for the listserver
to dump you off the list. Which makes it tough for folks who are
on systems with lots of down time or other frequent service
interruptions. Even scheduled maintenance periods can do it to
you.

--valerie





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:19:50 -0300 (ADT)
From: dcunning@netcom.com (Dave Cunningham)
Subject: ISIS Math articles

Can anyone tell me where I might obtain copies of The Quarterly of
ISIS-Symmetry Volume 5, Numbers 1 and 2, 1994?

Thanks for any help!

Dave Cunningham
dcunning@netcom.com





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:29:54 -0300 (ADT)
From: dcunning@netcom.com (Dave Cunningham)
Subject: Origami Fantasy English Translation

I have just received my copy of Kawahata's Origami Fantasy.

Wow.

In the back is an enticing section on design that shows how to design
fold maps to achieve a desired result.  Most interesting is how the
patterns shown contain creases that seem to be at unique angles optimized
for the particular design.

Of course, the text is in Japanese.  Does anyone have an english
translation of this section?  If so, I'd love to hear from you and
perhaps make arrangements to get a copy.

Regarding copyright issues, I'm not an expert, but I believe I am at
least within the spirit of the law since I have purchased the book and I
would presume the translator has purchased the book.





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:07:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mark Morden <marmonk@eskimo.com>
Subject: Wiley cartoon at the Origami Olio

The Wiley cartoon, "Non Sequitur," which appeared in Sunday papers today has
been added to the Origami Olio.  The URL is below.  From the main Origami
page, follow the link to "Origami in the Funny Papers."  Have fun.

Mark

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/
--------------------------------------------------------
"God gives His gifts where he finds the vessel empty
enough to receive them."
                                         C.S. Lewis





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:50:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Japanese Books at Fascinating Folds

Fascinating Folds currently offers some Japanese language origami books,
and has photos of covers. No ISBN numbers are given however, so here's
a list for those trying to figure out what's what compared to the
OUSA Supply center catalog or whatever:

(Titles are the translations given on F.Folds web site)

Fuse

Dimensional Kaleidoscope 4-480-87144-6
     No. 4 of New World Series: Modular geometrics

Folding Spirals 4-480-87202-7
     Spirals 1 of a series of 3   Has Benyon's Spring and DNA model
     Some spiral decorated boxes, but quite a bit of potential
     origami math interest

Cranes and Fans  4-480-87221-3
     In my humble opinion, the strangest of Fuse's books; personally
     recommended only for Fuse collectors and Crane fans; weird
     crane incrusted kusudama, f'rinstance

Folding Boxes With One Sheet of Paper 4-480-87203-5
     "One Piece Boxes"; for devoted Fuse box makers; boxes from single
     sheets, as distiguished from her usual multi-unit modular boxes.

Origami Spirals 4-480-87262
      "Spirals 2" of a series of 3
      Again, interesting to origami math explorers, some 3D spiral
      networks (make good xmas trees too), and other interesting
      geometric objects

Let's Link and Make 4-416-38825-X
      "Unit Origami Chains" Ingenious linkages of modular units,
      many that give the appearance of joining modules by the apexes

Diamond 3D Fun Boxes 4-480-87143-8
      No. 3 of series New World origami (see No. 4 above)
      Contains units also by Francis Ow.

Mechanical 3 Dimensional Shapes.
      From the cover, should be ISBN 4-416-something probably

I ordered this last (Mechanical ... Shapes), it was back ordered, then
I was just told it is no longer available. I don't have this book
as far as I can tell. If anyone on the list recognizes it from
the cover, can you please supply an ISBN number? I've written for
a new OUSA Supply Center catalog, but apparently my request went
astray, so have written again. If someone also has the Supply
Center list, is there a Fuse book on it that sounds like this one?
I try to collect all the Fuse books I can, and I've missed this
one somehow apparently. I have the mechanical toys Fuse book, and
about 30 others, and I don't recognize this cover.

Books by Yoshihide Momotani
(see also recent messages to the origami-l under subject heading
"Yoshihide Momotani")
Previous experience with deciphering Japanese diagram books
  recommended for these books (Fuse's are much clearer diagrams)
The flower books contain some things of interest to tessellation
explorers, i.e. the hydrangea is essentially formed from a tessellated
sheet ("twist folded")

Origami Flowers  4-416-38900-0
    apparently a 1996 edition of a 1989 work

Origami Ships  4-416-39417-9
    1994 author states about half of
    the material has been published before  (??)
    Title says it; boats from fishing boat to schooner & aircraft carrier

Origami Constellations (Zodiac) 4-416-39200-1
    Nice scorpion and crab

Autumn Flower Origami 4-416-39416-0

Winter Flower Origami  4-416-39508-6

Origami Flower Balls 4-900747-02-5
     Kusudama. Also some regular (in origami and geometric senses)
     polyhedron constructions of possible interest to fans of
     non-floral modulars.

Also:
F.Folds has a book:

       Paulo Mulatinho "Origami 30 Projects"  0-7858-0262-2

       This is a USA English edition (1995) of a book that
       appeared in German as "Pfiffiges Origami" (1993),
       and in Britain in a 1995 edition by Transeditions Books.
       This edition is about $11, compared to the German edition
       that the supply center is closing out according to the OUSA
       magazine.

Does anyone know if this edition contains all that is the German
edition?

I really like this little book, sort of an international collection, hardly
a trivial design in the whole bunch. I would recommend this highly for a
newcomer's basic origami library, along with the Biddles' books. The
Mulantino production values also are very good (I'm a book lover, too):
excellent design, great photos, very good diagrams.  Nice mix of animals,
containers, modulars; and a price that puts it in the affordable range of the
Dover origami books, only this is much prettier, and hardbound besides!
(Mulantino is described as a graphic designer by profession, and it shows
in the production values of this book.)

Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 21:59:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: The Aronson's <aronson5@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Pfiffiges Origami

Re: V. Vann's question about Mulatinho's lovely book...I own the German
version and assume you want to compare it to the English version.  The
German one is 79 pages in length and I believe contains all the same folds.
Humi Huzita's wonderful business card holder, Alvarez's nose and moustache,
a Happy Santa, a pipe, some animals, a little book, a nun and a paperholder
to name a few.  If you have any specific questions, let me know.

Ellen





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 22:06:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: Zachary Brown <zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
Subject: Re: Origami Fantasy English Translation

Dave Cunningham said of _Origami_Fantasy_:

> In the back is an enticing section on design that shows how to design
> fold maps to achieve a desired result.  Most interesting is how the
> patterns shown contain creases that seem to be at unique angles optimized
> for the particular design.
>
> Of course, the text is in Japanese.  Does anyone have an english
> translation of this section?  If so, I'd love to hear from you and
> perhaps make arrangements to get a copy.

I'd also be very interested in seeing that translation.





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 00:04:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net>
Subject: Name that book!

For the question I want to ask I wish I still had a scanner and this
would be easy.  Ok here it is.  back when I was in High school we used
to have a large number of japanese foriegn exchange students.  One day
in the library one of them noticed me folding, I haven't the slightest
clue what, and asked me if I was doing Origami. of course I replied
yes,(feel free to delete all of this nonessential info in returns). and
we started folding together, I showed him one of my books by Harbin and
taught him several models that were new to him.  Then he brought out
this small 4" by 6" inch book and had me help him figure out the a model
he was having trouble with.  to shorten the story, he gave me the book,
before we parted he helped me translate the names, but he never did tell
me who wrote it or what its name would be in english.  Now that past
here is a desrciption.

4" by 6"
Printed in Japan by Hoikusha Publishing Company., LTD.
I found what I think is the copyright date 1970
now the front cover description.
dominiating the cover is what looks like a devils head, in red paper,
the horns point straight up.  to the left is a a pink crane, just
slightly above the mouth of the devil.  in the lowest part of the left
corner is a logo rectangular in shape outlined in white with an inner
back ground of black the lettering is of various sizes and colors(pink,
blue, yellow). in the right hand lower corner is a fan of multi colored
origami paper the table all of this is set on is grey/blue.  in the
upper left hand corner is a title I think in japanese and probably the
autheors name.  the only character I will even attempt to describe is
from the second line in smaller characters, I think it is a name, it
consists of 5 characters, the second character resembles a house with
the roof slightly above the rest of the house. this is the only
character I can describe well enough to try to describe.  in the top
right corner from the middle over there is a set of hands folding a
piece of origami paper with the white side up.  I would say he was
making the square base.

on theback it is green wioth the publishers name in an oval box in the
center of the page.  at the bottom left there is a sybmol a perion then
"380" below it are more numbers and symbols
(symbol)0176-(symbol)505198-(symbol)7700               Printed in Japan

Thats all I have ever known about it, If anyone Knows its name and
author please get back to me.
thanks
Perry
--
>From pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net

***************************************
* Your Life is only what you make it. *
* so make it good. :?)'               *





Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 23:46:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Two new Kawahata's books?

On Sun, 27 Apr 1997, Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) wrote:

=I just visited Sasuga's web site and found two Kawahata's new titles:
=
=Origami: Wild Animals of the World
=Kawahata, Fumiaki [Ishizue] paperback 1996 66 pp. isbn: 4-900747-11-4
=$20.80

I could have shown you this one at the Southeastern Origami Festival, Sy.
Sorry that I didn't. Now Robin Macey is the proud owner of that copy of the
book. Anyway, the book is not bad. The models are mostly at an intermediate
level, and many of them use two pieces of paper.

=Origami: Imaginary Animals of the World
=Kawahata, Fumiaki [Ishizue] paperback 1997 66 pp. isbn: 4-900747-14-9
=$20.80

I've seen this here, but have not bought it. Again, most of the models are at
an intermediate level, but they are not as good as the ones in the other book
above. In fact, I don't think much of most of the models. Yamaguchi (owner of
Origami House) commented that some people are much better at making complex
designs than simple ones and cited Kawahata's book as an example.

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 03:48:59 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: New addition to BOS (BSE?) site

You may have read John Smith's article on origami profiles, well it's
now available at the BOS web site - choose Folding & then Origami
profiles. There are a few largish images, but worth the wait!

Advance warning of my first "proper" booklet, "Fold with Feeling", due
to be printed soon! Save those dollars up! You read it here first....

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 04:20:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Usenet [NO]

On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, Zachary Brown wrote:

=As far as the other messages about gating origami-l to alt.arts.origami,
=I have to agree with the detractors, as far as the fact that giving
=spambots access to everyone's email address would just invite junk mail.
=But maybe there is a way to do it while slightly disguising each person's
=return address in a way that would allow a human to figure out the true
=address, but would confuse a robot.

Yes, but any such plan would only result in a smarter robot being written. Yet
another vicious cycle.

=It may be that gating origami-l to alt.arts.origami would be bad, a
=moderated group would be just as dead as alt.arts.origami, and daily
=pointers in alt.arts.origami to the mailing list would set up a permanent
=crippling of the whole newsgroup concept. In that case, the only thing I
=can think of is that maybe people should regard alt.arts.origami as kind
=of a younger sibling, needing to be nurtured and cared for. It may be
=that creating the group was a mistake to begin with, but now that it
=exists, maybe we should try to make sure that it does get some kind of
=traffic, and is not left to die.

Why? There has been plenty of sentiment from people that a newsgroup is not
desired because of the spamming, because people can't get onto newsgroups
easily, etc. The group was created, yes, but that does not make it imperative
to perpetuate it. If it is not being used, especially if it's not being used
for the purpose for which it was created, then why *shouldn't* we let it die?
It would be more merciful. If we can create a proper newsgroup, great, but
origami-l has been, and continues to be, the focus of origami on the Internet,
and I don't see that changing for a while to come.

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 04:39:27 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Name that book!

On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Perry Bailey wrote:

=4" by 6"
=Printed in Japan by Hoikusha Publishing Company., LTD.
=I found what I think is the copyright date 1970
=now the front cover description.
=dominiating the cover is what looks like a devils head, in red paper,
=the horns point straight up.  to the left is a a pink crane, just
=slightly above the mouth of the devil.  in the lowest part of the left
=corner is a logo rectangular in shape outlined in white with an inner
=back ground of black the lettering is of various sizes and colors(pink,
=blue, yellow). in the right hand lower corner is a fan of multi colored
=origami paper the table all of this is set on is grey/blue.  in the
=upper left hand corner is a title I think in japanese and probably the
=autheors name.  the only character I will even attempt to describe is
=from the second line in smaller characters, I think it is a name, it
=consists of 5 characters, the second character resembles a house with
=the roof slightly above the rest of the house. this is the only
=character I can describe well enough to try to describe.  in the top
=right corner from the middle over there is a set of hands folding a
=piece of origami paper with the white side up.  I would say he was
=making the square base.
=
=on theback it is green wioth the publishers name in an oval box in the
=center of the page.  at the bottom left there is a sybmol a perion then
="380" below it are more numbers and symbols
=(symbol)0176-(symbol)505198-(symbol)7700               Printed in Japan

Sounds like the Japanese edition of one of KAWAII Toyoaki's books, probably
"Colorful Origami". He's got other books, too, "Japan's Creative Origami" and
"Origami".

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 04:52:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Your Web Page on TV! (fwd)

I received this message from Mark Gilchrist.

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 97 13:48:59 +0100
From: Mark Gilchrist <mark@gilchrist.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Your Web Page on TV!

I'm sending this as a private email because I'm still a victim of the
Listserver Gremlin.  Feel free to post it around the group if you want!

Did you know your Web page was recommended as one of the "Best of the
Net" on a UK Terrestrial TV programme?  The show was "Cybercafe",
produced by Meridian TV, and broadcast at around 3am (BST) 26/4/97.  It
was only a short piece, saying were the site was and showing a couple of
the photographs on it, as well as the heron diagram (Sorry...I can't
remember the creator at the moment!).  The thing they found most useful
was the waterbomb, of course!

bcnu

Mark...
One standard to rule them all, one standard to find them,
One standard to bring them all, and in darkness bind them.
In the land of Microsoft, where Shadows lie.





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 06:18:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: Re: Japanese Books at Fascinating Folds

Valerie Vann (28th April) tags on to her very useful list of Japanese books
available from Fascinating Folds, a query about "Origami", the English
translation of Paulo Mulatinho's  "Pfiffiges Origami", (published by Augustus
Verlag, Augsburg, Germany, 1993.)

I have both editions and the English translation is identical with the German
original, apart from one or two purely incidental  things like publishing
details.

Paolo was rather put out because the English translation was made without any
reference to him and he wasn't even informed about it. Of course, he had
assigned his copyright outright  to the publisher and they were entitled to
do whatever they liked with it. But you would have thought that they would
have let him know!. Nick Robinson will sympathise. The moral is: Never Assign
Your Copyright if you can  Possibly Help It.

But publishing aspects apart, in either language this is a superb example of
Origami book production, colourful, with well chosen and interesting models
of intermediate standard, excellent photographs and very clear diagrams. Get
it in either language!

David Lister,

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 06:18:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: Re: Name that book!

Perry Bailey (28th April) asks for the name of a book he has which was
published by Hoikusha Publishing Company.

I do not have the Japanese edition of this book, but I do have the version
translated into English.

It is "Origami" by Toyoaki Kawai. The English editon is copyright 1970.

The English edition was later, in 1983, retitled as "Colorful Origami" and
republished by Ottenheimer Publishers Inc. for distributionb in the United
States by Barnes and Noble Books.

This book is one of a large series published by Hoikusha under the series
title of "Color Books". They were originally printed in Japanese and there is
a very long series in that language on every aspect of Japanese culture you
could think of. A shorter, but still long, series was published in English. I
have a few on non-origami topics including one on Japanese Dolls.

Toyoaki Kawai wrote another book about origami in the series, translated into
English. It was titled "Creative origami" and published in 1977. It has a
purple classic crane on the front cover.

Yet another book on origami in English was published by Hoikusha in their
original Color Books series in 1983 This has the title "Living Origami" and
was wrirtten by Takuji Sugimura, not by Toyoaki Kawai.

The ISBN numbersof the English versions are as follows:

Toyoaki Kawai     Origami      None that I can find on my  1971 copy.

Toyoaki Kawai      Colorful Origami         0-06-464074-4

Toyoaki Kawai      Creative Origami         None on my 1978 edition, but it
has a Japan Book code number  0176-540035-7700.

Takiui Sugimura    Living Origami           4-586-54041-9.

I regret that I do not have details of the Japanese language editions. I have
seen some of them in shops and as far as I know, the contents are the same as
in the English language editions.

David Lister

Grimsby, England

Dlister891@AOL.com





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 06:17:50 -0300 (ADT)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: Re: ISIS Math articles

Dave Cunninham asks how to obtain copies  of "Symmetry, Culture and Science",
the quarterly journal of the International Society for the Interdisciplinary
Study of Symmetry, and in particular of Volume 5, numbers one and two, which
were spercifically about paperfolding.

The person to get in touch with is the Executive Secretary, Gyorgy Darvas.
His address is:

Symmetrion,
The Institute for Advanced Symmetry Studies,
P.O.Box 4,
H-1361  Budapest,
Hungary.

There is a Representative of the Instiute in the United States:

William S. Huff,
Department of Architecture,
State University of New York,
Buffalo,
NY  47405, USA.

The representative in the United Kingdom is:

Mary Harris,
Maths in Work Project,
University of London,
20, Bedford Way,
London  WC1H  0AL.

I doubt if copies of the Journal are obtainable from the national
representatives, but they may be able to give information. Of course, the
names and addresses I have given may be out-of-date by now.

Other people I have advised have succeeded in obtaining copies from Georgy
Darvas. It's well worth the trouble and he's a most enthusiastic and likeable
person.

I would advise any person interested in the theory of folding to acquire
these books. To put it simply, they are marvellous!  Our own Robert Lang has
a paper in one of them and there's another by Peter Engel. I really think
OUSA and BOS Supplies should stock them.

Good luck!

David Lister,

Grimsby, England,

DLister891@AOL.com





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 08:45:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Zachary Brown <zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
Subject: Re: Usenet [NO]

> =maybe people should regard alt.arts.origami as kind
> =of a younger sibling, needing to be nurtured and cared for. It may be
> =that creating the group was a mistake to begin with, but now that it
> =exists, maybe we should try to make sure that it does get some kind of
> =traffic, and is not left to die.
>
> Why? There has been plenty of sentiment from people that a newsgroup is not
> desired because of the spamming, because people can't get onto newsgroups
> easily, etc. The group was created, yes, but that does not make it imperative
> to perpetuate it. If it is not being used, especially if it's not being used
> for the purpose for which it was created, then why *shouldn't* we let it die?
> It would be more merciful. If we can create a proper newsgroup, great, but
> origami-l has been, and continues to be, the focus of origami on the Internet,
> and I don't see that changing for a while to come.

Do a lot of people feel like this? If so, I may start trying to set up an
automatic daily pointer to origami-l, so newcomers to alt.arts.origami do
not get completely discouraged. I would not like to do that, but as a
last resort, it may be best.

A point of correction from a previous message: I've just been told that
alt groups *can* be moderated, which is different from what I said
earlier. In that case, it might be possible to make alt.arts.origami a
moderated group, in which case it would probably only be necessary to
find a willing moderator. I recommend Namir Gharaibeh as someone with a
lot to give to the origami community. I don't know the process of setting
up a moderated alt group. Is this an avenue to be pursued?

Zack

>  Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 09:24:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: Bruce Stephens <B.Stephens@isode.com>
Subject: Re: Usenet [NO]

zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu said:
> A point of correction from a previous message: I've just been told
> that  alt groups *can* be moderated, which is different from what I
> said  earlier. In that case, it might be possible to make
> alt.arts.origami a  moderated group, in which case it would probably
> only be necessary to  find a willing moderator.

It's just about impossible to *change* an existing newsgroup into a moderated
one.  What you could do is create a *new* newsgroup and make it moderated.
That's what happened with alt.atheism/alt.atheism.moderated, for example.

--
Bruce Stephens  B.Stephens@isode.com
Isode Ltd.      <URL:http://www.isode.com/>





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 10:27:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com>
Subject: sighting & it's not sci-fi

 For the collectors of origami references and as proof that I read things
other
 than science fiction:

 From Rosanne Cash, _Bodies of Water_, Hyperion, New York c. 1996
 (p. 79 of the first edition hard cover)

 ". . . Just outside the door, with the afternoon light hitting his profile
full on
 and making him seem incandescent in the shadow of the entrance, stood an
 old man with an upside-down gray felt hat outstretched in his hand. He did
 not nod or say a word, but looked directly in her eyes, a breath of a
cautious
 smile on his lips. His skin was the color of butter in this light, with an
oily sheen
 like the leaves of her roses. He was small, and as perfectly formed as an
 origami ornament, or the Pieta come to life. She wanted to touch him, but
 instead just nodded and dropped a few francs into his hat. She stepped
 fully into the sunlight and slowly began making her way toward St.
Severin.
 When she turned around, he was gone. . . ."

 For those of you who are thinking the name is familiar, yes, this is the
  country music singer. I haven't quite decided whether or not I like this
 book of short stories, but you might find them worth a try if you read
 short fiction. The quote above is indicative of the style.

 Lisa
 Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 10:42:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Daddy-o D'gou <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Bellows folding

Troy Tate wrote:
+I posted this previously, but I never saw any responses to it
+and was wondering what you thought of this fellow's
+practical uses of pleat folds.....
+
+I got this information that led me to the MIT site
+and searched their site and got the following
+information. The guy's name is Nathan Kane and
+he would like to be known as the "Edison of
+Bellows". If you are interested, the URL is:
+<http://web.mit.edu:1962/tiserve.mit.edu/9000/43325.html>

Thanks!
Interesting guy, I had hoped there would be more details about the work
there, but so it goes!

-D'gou





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 11:28:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: Daddy-o D'gou <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: American Lobster

On 19 April '97 Tom "Rivers run through him" Hull waxed poetic
    in defence of modular/precreased origami:
+                     [describing tessellations:] You're at the core of
+the paperfolding process, literally *dancing* with the
+paper (I'm stealing Michael LaFosse's terminology here, but
+it's so appropriate!)  To coax the paper into the fished form
+is euphoric!  And modular origami - to see these wild 3-D
+polyhedra, dazzling with colors, emerge before your eyes
+like a complex crystal!!  Every time I set out on a large,
+multi-hundred unit modular project I am always intensely
+rewarded.

+I hope that begins to explain why some of us nuts eat up
+modular origami and spend hours precreasing.  In the end
+there is no difference - all origami posseses these qualities
+and is equally rewarding.  Just like jazz (or rap, or hardcore
+techno!) can be just as beautiful as classical music, if only
+one takes the time to appreciate the genres in their own terms.

Very well said, thank you!
(Being only nine days since Tom's message was posted doesn't seem like a
lot, but in terms of people being bumped and postponed and new-joins, there
should be plenty of unique keywords in the parts I've quoted to enable you
to find the entire message.  ONE way to do that:
    send email to 'orgami@ftp.rug.nl' and in the body put: MESSAGES jazz

-D'gou





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 11:35:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: HOLMES DAVID MARCUS EXC CH <david_marcus.holmes@chbs.mhs.ciba.com>
Subject: OUSA enquiry

Hi everyone,

Just over two months ago I sent a letter to OUSA, including two
international reply coupons, asking for information and a membership
application form.

I have received nothing yet, and was wondering if anyone here connected
with OUSA or the administration part in particular could shed some
light on this.  I realise that the convention is now looming, but it
wasn't back in February!

I had hoped to get my membership sorted out so that I could order the
"Sorry I can't attend" pack.  I'll have to wait until next year I guess.
How much are these packs, by the way?

Thank you.

Dave

--
David M Holmes           |             Novartis, Inc.
david.holmes@bigfoot.com | Views expressed are my own
-------------------------+---------------------------
Dave's Origami - http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 13:32:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: Matthias Gutfeldt <Tanjit@bboxbbs.ch>
Subject: Re: Usenet [NO]

Joseph Wu wrote:
> Why? There has been plenty of sentiment from people that a newsgroup is not
> desired because of the spamming, because people can't get onto newsgroups
> easily, etc. The group was created, yes, but that does not make it imperative
> to perpetuate it. If it is not being used, especially if it's not being used
> for the purpose for which it was created, then why *shouldn't* we let it die?
> It would be more merciful. If we can create a proper newsgroup, great, but
> origami-l has been, and continues to be, the focus of origami on the Internet,
> and I don't see that changing for a while to come.

Newsgroups are a first stop for anybody who is looking for
something about his/her favourite subject on the internet,
right after searching for relevant homepages. Although
mailing lists are quite popular, they are not necesserily
easier to access than Newsgroups.
Unless origami-l is advertised on all the webpages about
Origami, the chances of finding the mailing list are very small.
Right now, alt.arts.origami seems to be the "pick-up" point
for netizens in search of origami-related information. Like others,
I probably wouldn`t have found, or even thought about searching for,
origami-l if Zack Brown and Penny Groom hadn`t answered to my posting
in alt.arts.origami. Why should the newsgroup die? It doesn`t
hurt origami-l, but makes it more popular.

Matthias





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 13:39:15 -0300 (ADT)
From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net>
Subject: Re: ISIS Math articles

DLister891@aol.com wrote:
>
> Dave Cunninham asks how to obtain copies  of "Symmetry, Culture and Science",
> the quarterly journal of the International Society for the Interdisciplinary
> Study of Symmetry, and in particular of Volume 5, numbers one and two, which
> were spercifically about paperfolding.
>
> The person to get in touch with is the Executive Secretary, Gyorgy Darvas.
> His address is:
>
> Symmetrion,
> The Institute for Advanced Symmetry Studies,
> P.O.Box 4,
> H-1361  Budapest,
> Hungary.
>
> There is a Representative of the Instiute in the United States:
>
> William S. Huff,
> Department of Architecture,
> State University of New York,
> Buffalo,
> NY  47405, USA.
>
> The representative in the United Kingdom is:
>
> Mary Harris,
> Maths in Work Project,
> University of London,
> 20, Bedford Way,
> London  WC1H  0AL.
>
> I doubt if copies of the Journal are obtainable from the national
> representatives, but they may be able to give information. Of course, the
> names and addresses I have given may be out-of-date by now.
>
> Other people I have advised have succeeded in obtaining copies from Georgy
> Darvas. It's well worth the trouble and he's a most enthusiastic and likeable
> person.
>
> I would advise any person interested in the theory of folding to acquire
> these books. To put it simply, they are marvellous!  Our own Robert Lang has
> a paper in one of them and there's another by Peter Engel. I really think
> OUSA and BOS Supplies should stock them.
>
> Good luck!
>
> David Lister,
>
> Grimsby, England,
>
> DLister891@AOL.com
Thought this might be of interest, as I notice math related articles on
the origami list serve I will try to bounce them your way.
perry
--
>From pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net

***************************************
* Your Life is only what you make it. *
* so make it good. :?)'               *





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 13:49:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net>
Subject: Thanks

Thank you to those who responded to name that book, apparently the
consenses is Kawaii toyoaki's Colorful Origami. Thanks again for solving
a twenty some year old mystery!
--
>From pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net

***************************************
* Your Life is only what you make it. *
* so make it good. :?)'               *





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 15:48:33 -0300 (ADT)
From: jtweres@ans.ih.lucent.com
Subject: minimal origami sighting in "Romy & Michele's High School Reunion"

FYI:

in the movie
"Romy & Michele's High School Reunion"
which started on april 15th

there is a point
where they are driving
and the lisa kudrow character
is playing with a paper "fortune teller"

  /-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-///plieur de papier\\\-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\
 /=-= jack thomas weres                         jtweres@lucent.com =-=\
/=======================\\\================///=========================\
"Let Go and Let Fold"                             "One Crease At A Time"





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 17:13:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: Brett Askinazi <brett@hagerhinge.com>
Subject: So Called Processed Cheese "SQUARES" was RE: my wife's complaint

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Much to my dismay Cheese "SQUARES" aren't really square.

Maybe we should lobby Kraft eh ?

Brett Askinazi
brett@hagerhinge.com

-----Original Message-----
From:   John Abbott [SMTP:john@nombas.com]
Sent:   Friday, April 25, 1997 5:04 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list
Subject:        Re: my wife's complaint

At 06:11 PM 4/25/97 -0300, you wrote:
>
>>TOP TEN Alternatives to Folding Paper
>>When The Crinkling Is Just TOO Loud
>>
>>    Switch to wet folding, but be sure to use steam from a
>>          whistling tea kettle.
>>
>>    Tell 'em to snore louder!
>>
>
>    Try "stealth folding":
>    Carefully prepare for the fold (mentally envision the
>    required movment and place fingers lightly on the paper),
>    and then wait for an appropriate moment: honk of a car horn,
>    furnace/'fridge kicks on, dog barks, etc.  QUICKLY make
>    the fold during the diversionary noise and then prepare
>    for the next fold.
>

Instead of paper, fold your models from processed cheese squares.

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 17:46:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jan_Polish@colpal.com (Jan Polish)
Subject: Origami Convention '97

     Good news ... the forms for the OrigamiUSA Origami Convention '97
     (June 26-were mailed yesterday to all members. If you are not a
     member, and are interested in receiving the forms, please send me a
     private eMail that includes your snail mail address.

     And here's a progress report - our website is actively under
     construction, and should be available within a few weeks, complete
     with membership and convention information and forms. The Origami
     Source will be on-line shortly thereafter.

     In addition, we will soon be announcing eMail addresses for all of us
     involved with OrigamiUSA.

     So, yes, we are slowly coming into the electronic age! Thanks for your
     patience ...

     Jan Polish
     (jan_polish@colpal.com)





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 18:20:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: Re: Origami Convention '97

Dear Jan:

        Where is the convention to be held this year?  I would dearly love to
attend but accomodations may be a problem...

At 05:47 PM 4/28/97 -0300, you wrote:
>     Good news ... the forms for the OrigamiUSA Origami Convention '97
>     (June 26-were mailed yesterday to all members. If you are not a
>     member, and are interested in receiving the forms, please send me a
>     private eMail that includes your snail mail address.
>
>     And here's a progress report - our website is actively under
>     construction, and should be available within a few weeks, complete
>     with membership and convention information and forms. The Origami
>     Source will be on-line shortly thereafter.
>
>     In addition, we will soon be announcing eMail addresses for all of us
>     involved with OrigamiUSA.
>
>     So, yes, we are slowly coming into the electronic age! Thanks for your
>     patience ...
>
>     Jan Polish
>     (jan_polish@colpal.com)
>
>

Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 18:35:06 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marsha Dupre <mdupre@greenwood.net>
Subject: Re: Name that book

Perry asked about the book:

The book I have is titled "Origami" by Toyoaki Kawaii.  Printed in
1982.  The ISBN number is: 4-586-54021-4.  It must have been popular
because my copy notes it is the twenty-third edition on it.   I just
all origami books were printed as often.

Marsha DuPre





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 18:48:16 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marsha Dupre <mdupre@greenwood.net>
Subject: Re: Curious about cranes and other things

1.  After reading Sadako and the 1000 cranes as the culmination of a unit
on non-violence with the fifth graders at my school I now find myself
folding cranes with 50 enthusiastic students.  We hope to have 1000
folded by the end of May so I can take them to Hiroshima this summer.
 Questions about 1000  cranes.   Is there any usual number
of  cranes per string or number  of strings of cranes to the 1000 cranes?
 Do people use black  brown and grey paper  to fold the cranes with.
The kids wanted to know and I didn't have the answers.

2.  Display containers for origami.  I would like to find some
acrylic cubes in varying sizes with one side that slides open and
closed to display origami models in.  Has anyone come across any thing
like that?   I'm  looking for a way to display origami on the walls
without having it get dirty and so people can see as much of all
sides of the model as possible.  Any suggestions would be welcome.

Thanks!

Marsha DuPre
their origami





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:02:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com>
Subject: Re: Curious about cranes and other things

Marsha (mdupre @ greenwood.net) asked about stringing cranes and
display containers.

I'm in the process of folding my second thousand as a wedding gift.
Rather than stringing them, I'm displaying them in two tall clear
glass jars. I've got one filled & it's really pretty *and* easy to
dust *and* doesn't make the folding end with the miserable process
of stringing. This may not be appropriate if the cranes are large* or for
taking to Hiroshima, but it's worth considering if you're making cranes
for a gift.

*I'm starting with 1.5 in. paper.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 21:21:33 -0300 (ADT)
From: pat slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Re: usenet

Just for background....the alt.arts.origami newsgroup is turning up
at www.reference.com.  If inspire,  one can browse and even post to
that group there without subscribing.

Must say they really do seem to have low percentage of origami
content. ugh.

slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 21:31:33 -0300 (ADT)
From: Ronnie White <ronew@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Curious about cranes and other things

At 06:48 PM 4/28/97 -0300, you wrote:
>1.  After reading Sadako and the 1000 cranes as the culmination of a unit
>on non-violence with the fifth graders at my school I now find myself
>folding cranes with 50 enthusiastic students.  We hope to have 1000
>folded by the end of May so I can take them to Hiroshima this summer.
> Questions about 1000  cranes.   Is there any usual number
>of  cranes per string or number  of strings of cranes to the 1000 cranes?
> Do people use black  brown and grey paper  to fold the cranes with.
>The kids wanted to know and I didn't have the answers.
>
>2.  Display containers for origami.  I would like to find some
>acrylic cubes in varying sizes with one side that slides open and
>closed to display origami models in.  Has anyone come across any thing
>like that?   I'm  looking for a way to display origami on the walls
>without having it get dirty and so people can see as much of all
>sides of the model as possible.  Any suggestions would be welcome.

A good source for acrylic cubes is a sports cards and collectibles store.
They have lots of plastic cubes for displaying everything from baseballs to
basketballs, and they are not very expensive.
Ron White
ronew@mindspring.com

"Never underestimate the incredible destructive power of origami"

                                                  Earthworm Jim





Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:25:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: nienhuis@westworld.com (Bob Nienhuis)
Subject: Re: Name that book

>Perry asked about the book:
>
>The book I have is titled "Origami" by Toyoaki Kawaii.  Printed in
>1982.  The ISBN number is: 4-586-54021-4.  It must have been popular
>because my copy notes it is the twenty-third edition on it.   I just
>all origami books were printed as often.
>
>Marsha DuPre
>
Your message inspired me to look st the title page of my copy of Kawaii's
Creative Origami (similar format, 55x135mm, plastic book cover). It says
First Edition published in 1972! I wonder if it is therefore valuable?
Other than it's intrinsic value for the origami, of course.

Bob Nienhuis
nienhuis@wgn.net
Origami page
http://www.wgn.net/~nienhuis/





Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 00:28:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Zachary Brown <zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
Subject: Re: So Called Processed Cheese "SQUARES" was RE: my wife's complaint

> Much to my dismay Cheese "SQUARES" aren't really square.
>
> Maybe we should lobby Kraft eh ?

Not as silly a suggestion as it might sound. If it were phrased properly,
Kraft might see it as a wonderful publicity opportunity. And of course,
all that publicity would rebound on origami. Anyone from OUSA have any
thoughts on taking up that banner?

Zack

> Brett Askinazi
> brett@hagerhinge.com





Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 02:02:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Pfiffiges Origami

Ellen wrote:

<<The German one is 79 pages in length
<< and I believe contains all the same folds.

and David Lister wrote:

<<I have both editions and the English translation is identical with the German
original, apart from one or two purely incidental  things like publishing
details.
Paolo was rather put out because the English translation was made without any
reference to him and he wasn't even informed about it. Of course, he had
assigned his copyright outright  to the publisher and they were entitled to
do whatever they liked with it.>>

Very glad to hear that they're the same; I hate it when a subsequent
edition of a book, or a different language version
is cut down from the original. And now I won't have
to go get a copy of the German version... :-)

I wonder, though if the fact that Mulantinho was disconnected from the
English edition is one reason why the book is relatively inexpensive,
especially considering it has a hard cover (paper covered, but hardbound
nonetheless) and is very nicely printed (in Spain).

On second thought, if Mulantinho received royalties for the German
version and nothing for the English, perhaps I *will* buy the former
after all!

Interesting, isn't it, that because origami books are considered
apparently by publishers as children books or do-it-yourself type
crafts books, that liberties are taken with both the contents and
the author/artists that perhaps would not be considered with a work
of fiction, poetry, or even "conventional" art!

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 03:51:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: So Called  Cheese "SQUARES"

Brett Askinazi <brett@hagerhinge.com> sez

>Much to my dismay Cheese "SQUARES" aren't really square.

Must be an offshoot of Maxfields then - I'm not at all certain they are
made from cheese either, 65% plastic, I reckon.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
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