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From: pdbrunning <pdbrunning@brunn.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Un-digest

In message <l03020907af683e29f0ad@[207.60.149.43]>, Robert Allan
Schwartz <notbob@tessellation.com> writes
>Right now I receive this list in digest form. How can I return to receiving
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>
>Thanks,
>
>Robert
>Ihave the opposite request. How can I receive messages from the list in
digest form?

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Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 15:02:49 -0400 (AST)
From: "Goveia, William P" <wgoveia@indiana.edu>
Subject: RE: ORU #16

My $.02 (adjusted for inflation, of course,, actually 19.64 cents in
1996 money....;-)  :

I can think of one ways to get it translated fairly inexpensively.  Many
American liberal arts universities or colleges have Asian Language
programs, so it may not be unreasonable to assume that they might be
able to tap similar resources...

Or perhaps partner with an american or european university.  I know
**Shameless Plug for Employer Warning!!** Indiana University has a
fairly comprehensive Asian Lanugauge program...

Another option may be to publish electronicall on the web (although I
don't know how practical that would really be, since I don't what
resources are avaialble to them)...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeannine Mosely [SMTP:j9@concentra.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 1997 1:38 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:      ORU #16
> [Goveia, William P]  <snipped for brevity>
> I can think of two things the magazine might do to improve
> circulation.  Adding more diagrams might give them wider appeal, and
> they are probably less expensive to produce than all the beautiful
> [Goveia, William P]  <snipped for brevity>
> But the change that might have a real impact on circulation would be
> to provide more (some?) English text.  The international origami
> community is large, and of course, not all speak or read English, but
> a lot more people know English than Japanese.  I don't know how
> expensive a good translator's services are, though, so this might not
> be a very practical option.
>
>       -- Jeannine Mosely





Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 16:23:29 -0400 (AST)
From: mym@lucent.com
Subject: OUSA

Does anyone know who I can contact
concerning OUSA membership? I sent
in my membership form back in January
and have not heard anything to date.

Thanks for your help,

Mark McKinnon
mym@fuwutai.lucent.com





Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 17:10:51 -0400 (AST)
From: "Goveia, William P" <wgoveia@indiana.edu>
Subject: RE: OUSA

Origami USA   (formerly Friends of Origami Center of America [FOCA])
15 West 77th Street, Room HO-1
New York, NY 10024-5192  USA

Tel: 212-769-5635
Fax: 212-769-5668

I spoke with a very nice lady when I called to inquire about membership.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mym@lucent.com [SMTP:mym@lucent.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 1997 3:24 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:      OUSA
>
> Does anyone know who I can contact
> concerning OUSA membership? I sent
> in my membership form back in January
> and have not heard anything to date.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Mark McKinnon
> mym@fuwutai.lucent.com





Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 18:33:07 -0400 (AST)
From: fakeaddress@juno.com (Andrew F Williams)
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI FANTASY

stop sending me this stuff





Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 21:11:54 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI FANTASY

On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, John Marcolina wrote:

Brett wrote:
=>I got my copy today from OUSA.  On the dust jacket of the book are a T-REX
=>and a STEGOSAURUS.  However, the T-REX and STEGOSAURUS diagrammed in the
=>book appear to be different than the ones on the dust jacket.
=>
=>Has anyone noticed this?  Am I nuts?  Or was it a printing revision.

=Hmm, the pictures on the dust jacket of my copy match the diagrams, I'm sure.

Thre is only one version of the book, and the models on the dust cover are the
same as the ones in the diagrams. There *was* a new dust cover, though.
However, the new dust cover looks identical to the original one. The problem
was that the old dust covers had a plastic coating that was deteriorating and
getting sticky, so they are now being replaced by ones without that coating. I
saw Tajiri-san (Yamaguchi's employee) changing the covers on a new batch of
books while I was at Origami House. Yamaguchi gave me a bunch of the old
covers to see what I could do with them. They're nice and stiff, so I played
around with Paul Jackson's one-fold origami and figured out some ways of
incorporating those curves into actual models. I'm still rather pleased with
the elephant head I came up with, even if no one else can see what it is
without being told. 8)

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 21:49:40 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: ORU #16

On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Jeannine Mosely wrote:

=I picked up my copy of ORU #16 from Sasuga Monday night (just before
=the storm hit -- 18 inches of snow for April Fool's day!).  I
=discussed the magazine's demise briefly with the American woman who
=works there (Karen?).  She said that at the beginning of the issue
=there was a letter from the publishers about their decision to stop
=publishing, and that they are promising to resume publication when
=they can figure out how to do it more profitably -- presumably some
=change of format.  She plans to translate the letter into English and
=adding it to their web site.

Plans are already being made for a successor to Oru, but I'm not at liberty to
say what those plans will be. Suffice it to say that Oru, as it was, will
probably not be ressurrected.

=I can think of two things the magazine might do to improve
=circulation.  Adding more diagrams might give them wider appeal, and
=they are probably less expensive to produce than all the beautiful
=photographs.  I'm not saying I want fewer photographs -- I love them
=and find them very inspirational -- but a number of people have said
=to me that they only buy the issues that have directions for a model
=they particularly want.

Pity. The value of Oru was more in the exposure it gave to various artists
than in the diagrams offered. Besides, a big problem with offering more
diagrams is that someone has to draw them, potentially costing more than
adding another page of photos (depends on the number of issues produced, of
course). Also a big problem is getting diagrams from the featured origami
designers. Too many people have too many works that have not been diagrammed
(myself included), so there are plenty of photo opportunities for great
models, but few diagrams to go along with those models.

=But the change that might have a real impact on circulation would be
=to provide more (some?) English text.  The international origami
=community is large, and of course, not all speak or read English, but
=a lot more people know English than Japanese.  I don't know how
=expensive a good translator's services are, though, so this might not
=be a very practical option.

A good translator in Japan costs a fortune. Outside Japan, too. Typically, the
charge is per resultant English word, and, according to a translator friend of
mine, a ball park figure would be 22.5 yen per word (about 18 cents). It
really depends on the material, though. Captions and figure comments (like the
comments associated with diagrams) would cost more. Part of the problem is
that there is no technical dictionary for origami terms, and many translators
literally translate terms like "inside reverse fold" or get stuck on "blintz
fold". (Incidentally, those would be correctly translated as "naka wari ori"
["middle divide fold"] and "zabuton ori" ["cushion fold"].) I agree that
English would be necessary, but it would require a bilingual staff to pull it
off well.

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 21:53:45 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: RE: ORU #16

On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Goveia, William P wrote:

=My $.02 (adjusted for inflation, of course,, actually 19.64 cents in
=1996 money....;-)  :

Haha! And that will buy you one translated word from a professional
translator. 8)

=I can think of one ways to get it translated fairly inexpensively.  Many
=American liberal arts universities or colleges have Asian Language
=programs, so it may not be unreasonable to assume that they might be
=able to tap similar resources...

You mean tap into the English language programs at the universities here? It's
a sad fact, but many of the professors of English literature here in Japan
must struggle to read English. In fact, some of them can't read English at
all, but rather read translations and write papers about those translations!
Besides, the universities here are under much stricter government control, and
cooperation between universities and the private sector is difficult at best.

=Or perhaps partner with an american or european university.  I know
=**Shameless Plug for Employer Warning!!** Indiana University has a
=fairly comprehensive Asian Lanugauge program...

Might be an idea, but this would also require a bilingual person to act as
liaison.

=Another option may be to publish electronicall on the web (although I
=don't know how practical that would really be, since I don't what
=resources are avaialble to them)...

Not feasible for them right now. Besides, how would they make money?

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 23:10:46 -0400 (AST)
From: Pam and/or Namir <pgraben@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Dollar Bill Origami

>Allen Parry wrote:
>About wait-staff withholding his food until he folds a new model, and
>about wait-staff that ignores the model and unfolds it.
>
>Sigh.  I would definitely be ticked off if I had to wait for my food
>like that.

So have I borne the pain and suffrage of unappreciated doller bill tips
in the likeness of many animals.   :)
I have, however, found a way around it whil still feeling like giving doller
origami away:
I simply put it in the offeratory every Sunday.

-Namir
!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
Pamela Graben:     Thinking... what a concept!
Namir Gharaibeh:  "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
pgraben@umich.edu





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 00:25:54 -0400 (AST)
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: RE: ORU #16

I realize ORU will never be resurected in its present form, but I hope this
discussion will help its successor be more succesful. The language barrier
was one of the main reasons I shyed away from making an ORU purchase, but
the photography was quite compelling. If translation is that expensive (as
Joseph Wu pointed out), then I guess that will not be a viable option.
Unfortunatly, the very high price of the ORU issues made me very reluctant
to taking the $30-$40 plunge.

Perhaps printing the magazine overseas (as well as Japan), would reduce the
cost? I know this is done a lot with high distribution items (like
magazines and newspapers), but do you think this could be a good idea for
ORU's cuurent distribution (of which I am unaware of)?. If the price could
be reduced to $15 to $20 per issue, I am sure OrigamiUSA and others would
be willing to carry it. This should increase distribution significantly. I
knwo I would buy them at those prices much more readily.

Marc





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 00:35:05 -0400 (AST)
From: Daddy-o D'gou <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: about 100 traditional models

Valerie Vann wrote:  (David refers to David Lister)
+David, have you though of contacting P.D. Tuyen, the Vietnamese
+author of "Classic Origami" and "Wild Origami", which a couple
+of us found rather intriguingly different? Tuyen seemed too be
+working in relative isolation from the rest of the origami world,
+apparently unaware of developments in creation of realistic
+animals particularly. Since "Classic Origami" was published in
+Germany, I at first thought he was a Vietnamese immigrant to
+Germany, working in some technical field (he is a draftsman of
+some skill), but I was still puzzled, as he seemed also oblivious
+to standard diagram conventions and the "bases" in particular,
+though "new" bases appear occasionally (Montrol "dog" base and
+some Yosizawa "bird" bases come to mind, along with what
+I consider modular "bases").

An intriguing issue that.  Don't be surprised if he wants nothing to do
with the established origami community.  I think it was about a year
ago that Michael LaFosse wrote an article for the OUSA magazine (This
may have been before or around the time it changed names to become "The
Paper", I don't recall and I don't have them with me to check).  One of
the things Michael LaFosse wrote about was that he took 10 YEARS off
from origami so that he could approach it (and paper craft in general,
if my memory serves) free from outside influences.  Now that he has
found his "voice" (or 'fingers'?), outside influence doesn't seem to be
an issue.

My point is that I have very mixed feelings about this kind of issue.  I
suspect that if Tuyen wanted to be part of a bigger community, he probably
already would be.  But maybe not.

I think it was Joseph Wu who mentioned being annoyed by the
authoritative/definitive tone of Tuyen's books.  Personally I took that as an
artifact of that translation and will wait to see if that was really how he
wrote it (if he even wrote any of the text, again, my books aren't with me,
and I don't recall the credits).

-D'gou





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 00:42:06 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: RE: ORU #16

On Thu, 3 Apr 1997, Marc Kirschenbaum wrote:

=Perhaps printing the magazine overseas (as well as Japan), would reduce the
=cost? I know this is done a lot with high distribution items (like
=magazines and newspapers), but do you think this could be a good idea for
=ORU's cuurent distribution (of which I am unaware of)?. If the price could
=be reduced to $15 to $20 per issue, I am sure OrigamiUSA and others would
=be willing to carry it. This should increase distribution significantly. I
=knwo I would buy them at those prices much more readily.

That is a good suggestion, and I have no idea why they didn't do that.
Printing costs in Japan are amongst the highest in the world, and many
companies choose to print overseas to reduce costs. I know that Oru was
printed locally, but I don't know why.

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 06:51:30 -0400 (AST)
From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@sci.fi>
Subject: Math and sonobe modules

I was wondering if anyone has calculated the volume for any sonobe modules.
Stellated tetrahedron (or cube, if you prefer), octahedron and icosahedron
proved to be easy, but what is the volume of 18-unit substellated tetra-
hedron (I hope I got it right - four intersecting cubes) assuming that
modules are made of a*a squares?

Jorma "want to check my math" Oksanen
--
Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

"It's a good thing the average person doesn't realize
 the awesome destructive power of origami"              Earthworm Jim





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 10:19:43 -0400 (AST)
From: JStranzl@aol.com
Subject: Plans

It would be nice to see e-mail that has some origami diagrams of the models
people are talking about attached. In that way, others can try making the
models as well!





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 10:16:02 -0400 (AST)
From: JStranzl@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dollar Bill Origami

In a message dated 97-04-02 22:44:21 EST, you write:

> So have I borne the pain and suffrage of unappreciated doller bill tips
> in the likeness of many animals.   :)
> I have, however, found a way around it whil still feeling like giving
doller
> origami away:
> I simply put it in the offeratory every Sunday.

> -Namir

In the hundreds of Dollar Bill Origami tips I've left, I've only had one
waitress unfold it. She looked at it quizically, started to unfold slowly
(maybe thinking it was fake), and just stuffed it in her pocket when it was
completely unfolded. She seemed to be mentally challenged (<- for those who
enjoy politically correct terms) as exhibited by her mannerisms, so I did not
hold it against her.

In my experiences, I've had waitresses come running after my dinner party as
we were leaving the restaurant asking, "Who made this! It's so cute!" "Can
you teach me!" "Can you make one for my friend?" "You've made my day!"
Usually they call their fellow waits over and show it off. I always linger at
the cash register or vestibule to make sure I catch their reaction when they
take it off the table. The reaction... all smiles. So anyway, I hope you have
better tip experiences in the future.

Here's a "tip" for you. They seem to respond to the Dollar Bill Shirt the
best. I do one of two things; 1) take a dime and leave it above the collar
using the president's bust as a head sticking out of the collar, or, 2) lay
the dollar bill shirt beneath the president's head of one of the bills left
as a tip. The dime works best though!

Happy Tipping!  (but remember, no tipping cows! LOL)

P.S. I put Dollar Bill Origami into the Sunday collection too!

P.P.S. If you're waiter/waitress is cute, it's a great way to strike up a
conversation!





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 10:55:13 -0400 (AST)
From: mym@lucent.com
Subject: Dollar Bill Tips

Adding to the thread...

I have left many folded dollar bill tip. About 50% have
really enjoyed it and can't wait till I come in again. In
some cases they have even fought over serving me.

Other places have seen many frogs, butterflies, shirts
and over the course of a year one place saw the entire
alphabet.

Just adding my $0.02.

Mark
mym@fuwutai.lucent.com





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 12:41:11 -0400 (AST)
From: helena@mast.queensu.ca
Subject: Re: Math and sonobe modules

Hello!
Where can I find out what the sonobe module is?
I only just found out about maths and origame, and already
heard from some very nice math-origami people.  But I've still not
got hold of the books.  I put my instructions for the
module I made on my page at
http://www.mast.queensu.ca/~helena/origami.html
Are there more online instructions for mathematical origami
out there?
I'd only made tetrahedron, octahedron, and icosohedron at first
(will these have the same volume as for the sonobe module?)
But I tried the stellated octahedron last night, and was
surprized to find that I could only manage by using all peices
identical (no mirror images); so I was thinking about trying
to prove that it can't be made from pieces that are not all
the same.  Do people already have proofs of things like that?

Anyway, I expect I need to look at all the references first,
but really this is just an email to say "Hello!", since I
only just subscribed to this list the other day.  I'm looking
forwards to learning a lot more about mathematical origami.

Helena
helena@mast.queensu.ca





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 13:05:53 -0400 (AST)
From: Brett Askinazi <brett@hagerhinge.com>
Subject: Re: The cost of "Brilliant Origami"?

I really hate to add to this but . . .

Nick requested PRIVATE responses in his mail to the list.  There are 2 good
reasons for this . . .

1) it cuts down on inane messages to the list. (mostly I like the inane
messages too ;), but in this case it went against the request of the
sender)

2) Nick would get the replies directly to his email account and not have to
wade through list mail to find responses to his question.

Please take the time to read the messages in full and respond accordingly.

Clicking on reply to or using the reply to option in whatever email program
you are using by default USUALLY send to the entire list.

To remedy this use the EMAIL addresses provided in the content of the
message. Most users add this for this purpose.

Some email programs even allow you to click on the email address text in
the message.

If not then write down and choose NEW MESSAGE and enter the email address
in the TO: line.

I'm not meaning to offend anybody here.  Just look before ya leap ;)

Brett
brett@hagerhinge.com





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 13:14:05 -0400 (AST)
From: Brett Askinazi <brett@hagerhinge.com>
Subject: Re: Thirds (was Re: Thanks)

> >of paper ACCURATELY into thirds without getting out the ruler or making
a
> >zillion unnecessary folds - is it possible?
>
> 1 Take your square, and pinch at halfway mark at the left side.
>
> 2 Valley lower right hand corner to pinch.
>
> 3 The intersection of raw edges at the top is the 1/3 mark.
>
> BTW, doing this procedure with a 1/4th pinch mark will give you fifths.
>
> Marc

Thats not quite a zillion ;)

I still like the simple method.

Take the square in both hand one hand on the left edge and one on the
right.  Push your hands toward each other until the paper (not folds) but
bends into a curved    S   shape (when looked at edge on).  Then gradually
flatten and adjust the paper into thirds.  If you are careful (and with
practice) there are NO extra creases at all.

This is hard to describe.  I think there is a hand drawn picture in Origami
Omnibus.

Brett
brett@hagerhinge.com





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 14:12:36 -0400 (AST)
From: Daddy-o D'gou <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Thirds (was Re: Thanks)

Brett wrote:
[Marc wrote:]
+> 1 Take your square, and pinch at halfway mark at the left side.
+> 2 Valley lower right hand corner to pinch.
+> 3 The intersection of raw edges at the top is the 1/3 mark.
+> BTW, doing this procedure with a 1/4th pinch mark will give you fifths.
+> Marc
..
+I still like the simple method.
+Take the square in both hand one hand on the left edge and one on the
+right.  Push your hands toward each other until the paper (not folds) but
+bends into a curved    S   shape (when looked at edge on).  Then gradually
+flatten and adjust the paper into thirds.  If you are careful (and with
+practice) there are NO extra creases at all.

I HATE!!! that method.  Probably cause I never got good at it.

MY fav. method is the parallel lines trick.  Evenly spaced parallel
lines will evenly subdivide any line crossing them at any angle.  Since
I do a lot of my folding on or near a ruled cutting mat, that works.
But so does any graph paper or ruled "notebook" paper.  Hold the edge
(or crease) you wish to subdivide so that one end is touching one of
the parallel lines.  Rotate the paper so that the other end touches
another parallel line, N lines away from the first end.  If you are
dividing your edge into thirds, you count three lines from the first
end's line.  The intermediate lines will touch the edge at the dividing
points you are looking for:

 :    -----------------------------------------------------------------
 :
 :    -----------------------------------------------------------------
 :
 :    ---------------------+-------------------------------------------
 :                        /
 :    -------------------/---------------------------------------------
 :                      /
 :    -----------------/-----------------------------------------------
 :                    /
 :    ---------------+-------------------------------------------------

 In that picture, the line with the plus signs at either end represents the
 edge you want to divide into thirds.

 Once you have you edge lined up, you can fold one end to whatever spot you
 need to get the crease you are looking for.

 Oh, but I don't have any ruled paper with me!  What'ever shall I do?

 Not to worry!  Just take another piece of paper and fold it in half, then
 open and fold into quarters, until you get enough parallel lines to make the
 divisions you want!

 If your edge is really long compared to the parallel lines you have to work
 with, just count every other line, or every third line and pretend the other
 ones don't exist!  As long as you are careful to remember which ones you are
 counting and which you are ignoring, you'll be fine!

 -D'gou





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 14:22:21 -0400 (AST)
From: JStranzl@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dollar Bill Tips

In a message dated 97-04-03 11:44:14 EST, you write:

<< Adding to the thread...

 I have left many folded dollar bill tip. About 50% have
 really enjoyed it and can't wait till I come in again. In
 some cases they have even fought over serving me.

 Other places have seen many frogs, butterflies, shirts
 and over the course of a year one place saw the entire
 alphabet.

 Just adding my $0.02.

 Mark
 mym@fuwutai.lucent.com
  >>

Mark:

Butterfly? Do you have instructions/diagrams you can send showing how to make
the dollar bill butterfly? Thanks in advance!

John





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 15:58:02 -0400 (AST)
From: Daddy-o D'gou <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Thirds (was Re: Thanks)

In an earlier message I replied to Brett with:
+I HATE!!! that method.  Probably cause I never got good at it.

That came out sounding harsher than I intended, sorry.  I don't mean to
discourage anyone who likes it, NOR do I mean to discourage anyone from trying
it!

-D'gou





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 16:30:36 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Plans &  available origami diagrams

JStranzl wrote:

<<It would be nice to see e-mail that has some origami diagrams of the models
<<people are talking about attached. In that way, others can try making the
<<models as well!

[it would be nice to have more of a "name" for this person than
just their email address...]

Hard as it may be to believe, not everyone's email system can handle file
attachments gracefully, some folks get email at work and file transfers from
unknown source are prohibited or discouraged, & not everyone agrees on the
graphic format to use, either, though mostly Postscript is used (which isn't
viewable, just printable.) Other folks have problems with files or email over
a certain size. Etc etc etc...

Then there's the problem - which *IS* an ethical problem at the very least for
most origami folks, as well as a *Legal* problem on some systems - that some
diagrams/models being discussed belong to (i.e. are copyrighted) by other
than the discussors/ees and so the best that can be done is a reference to the
published source, web page, etc.

So for models under discussion that are too complex for a simple explanation or
ASCII (text) diagram, many of us do one of the following:

List the reference to published diagrams
Offer to send copies by regular mail or prior arrangement by email
Post the diagrams in the origami-L mail list archives (by prior arrangement
   with the archivist); anyone can access the archive with their Web browser,
   or FTP
Post the diagrams on our Web sites (all of which are readily located thru
   Joseph Wu's big "master" web pages, and many are registered with
   most popular WWWeb search engines as well (Yahoo, Alta Vista, Lycos..)

So far this has worked better for many (most?) of us than if everyone just
routinely sends attached files to everyone on the list.

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 16:48:53 -0400 (AST)
From: mym@lucent.com
Subject: Re: Dollar Bill Tips

John,

It's in a recent issue of  OUSA's _PAPER_
I've also seen it else where but can't remember
off the top of my head. I'll look when I get home
and see if I can find it. It's not that hard, what's
neat about it is that it stand up when your done.

Mark

>
> Mark:
>
> Butterfly? Do you have instructions/diagrams you can send showing how to
make
> the dollar bill butterfly? Thanks in advance!
>
> John





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 16:37:22 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: about 100 traditional models

Personally, I have suspected that Tuyen's isolation from the
rest of the world community has not been voluntary, but a
result of the relative isolation of his country (Vietnam),
which is only recently changing. Importing origami books, or
any books from the USA for instance very well may not even
have been possible until very recently, and certainly
Vietnam citizens would probably have experienced difficulty
in foreign travel, so he couldn't just hop over to a OUSA or
BOS convention. Germany, where his books are/were first
published, was I believe one of the early entrants into
establishing commercial operations with/in Vietnam, and
since Tuyen appears to be employed in a technical field,
someone from Germany may have become aware of his origami
activity that way.

I therefore also attributed his "authoritative" tone (sort
of sounds like he thinks he is single-handedly popularizing
or innovating origami) to the same isolation from the world
community.

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 18:13:12 -0400 (AST)
From: Contractors Exchange <contract@pipeline.com>
Subject: Commercial request for origami

I can not tell how legit the following is, but I thought I would pass along
this posting I found at alt.binaries.pictures.origami :

I am looking for unique, new gift ideas from craftspersons in the $5 - $50
resale range.  Gifts can be origami-based, like one incredible gift item I
will be showing in my store shortly.  Also looking for original art such
as oil paintings in the 20" by 16" sizes, etc.  Send details to
coolgift@aol.com  Thanks!
Regards,
Rich    =)
******************************************************
Cool Gifts: http://members.aol.com/cybervalue/
FREE GIFT Shopper's 10% Off Discount Card!





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 19:46:41 -0400 (AST)
From: "Backes, Nancy J (MN17)" <nbackes@p04.mn17.honeywell.com>
Subject: looking for jumping frog from 2:1 rectangle

Many years ago my parents brought back a folded jumping frog from a
cruise they were on.  Apparently the person who cleaned their rooms had
left it on their pillow.  I was a nice frog and I was able to take it
apart and figure out how it was folded and I made many more.  This was
before I knew anything much at all about origami except what it was so I
was quite pleased with myself for figuring it out.

Now, years later, I don't remember how this frog was folded.  I have
looked in many origami books (30 of them or so) but have not seen one
like this one.  I remember it was made with a 2:1 rectangle.  The head
and front legs were from half the paper and the pleated body and back
legs from the other half.  It jumped because of an accordion pleat in the
rear of the body.  It had fairly thin front legs that I had trouble
getting shaped just right. It also had back legs, or at least feet
(unlike one frog I saw that had only the pleat in back, no leg/foot
shaping).  The body was not blown up, and was narrowed to finish about
half as wide as the paper that it started from.  I think the front part
of the body started with a waterbomb base (although I didn't know
anything about bases at the time).

Does this frog sound familiar to anyone?  Have you seen anything like it,
and where?  I hope someone may have a clue and be able to help me out
here.

Thank-you,
Nancy Backes
71623.3676@compuserve.com





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 20:32:54 -0400 (AST)
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: looking for jumping frog from 2:1 rectangle

At 07:46 PM 4/3/97 -0400, "Backes, Nancy J (MN17)"
<nbackes@p04.mn17.honeywell.com> wrote:
>
>Many years ago my parents brought back a folded jumping frog from a
>cruise they were on.  Apparently the person who cleaned their rooms had
>left it on their pillow.  I was a nice frog and I was able to take it
>apart and figure out how it was folded and I made many more.  This was
>before I knew anything much at all about origami except what it was so I
>was quite pleased with myself for figuring it out.

>From your description in your original note, it sounds as if you have
figured it out without realizing it. This model was taught to me in First
grade (I think I was the only one who could not fold it, although I had
been folding paper prior to this special class). The model is best folded
with heavy, springy paper. @x1 proportions will work, as well as 3x5 and
other long rectangles.

1 white side up, form waterbomb base at top.

2 fold the sides to the center (the folds will exdend underneath the flaps
from the waterbomb base).

3 valley the flaps from the waterbomb base outwards at an angle.

4 pleat the bottom section approx. into thirds.

5 turn over. using the hind legs like a sping, your model will jump and flip.

I drew up diagrams for this model, but they were never used - a long and
upsetting story.

Marc





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 20:53:38 -0400 (AST)
From: tait@earthlink.net
Subject: dollar bill tips

A while back I left the "changing heart" dollar model at the post office in
exchange for stamps. The postal worker looked at it and me very strangely- I
had to assure him that it was a real dollar.

About a half year later I was purchasing some stamps and the postal worker (a
different one) gave me the changing heart back as my change!

Regards,
Tricia





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 21:11:43 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: dollar bill tips

On Thu, 3 Apr 1997 tait@earthlink.net wrote:

=A while back I left the "changing heart" dollar model at the post office in
=exchange for stamps. The postal worker looked at it and me very strangely- I
=had to assure him that it was a real dollar.
=
=About a half year later I was purchasing some stamps and the postal worker (a
=different one) gave me the changing heart back as my change!

The exact same dollar bill, or another changing heart folded from a different
dollar? If it was the former, that would be most amazing!

P.S. There are some samples of your work on display at Gallery Origami House
in Tokyo. Congratulations!

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 21:25:41 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Tuyen (was Re: about 100 traditional models)

On Thu, 3 Apr 1997, Valerie Vann wrote:

=Personally, I have suspected that Tuyen's isolation from the
=rest of the world community has not been voluntary, but a
=result of the relative isolation of his country (Vietnam),
=which is only recently changing. Importing origami books, or
<deletia>

=I therefore also attributed his "authoritative" tone (sort
=of sounds like he thinks he is single-handedly popularizing
=or innovating origami) to the same isolation from the world
=community.

I can't buy that. He had to have had *some* contact and knowledge of origami
outside Vietnam, or else he would not have used the word "origami" instead of
the Vietnamese equivalent. He is not an uneducated man (if I remember
correctly, he is an architect). Isolated or not, if he's not sure about
something, he should not speak as if he were. Maybe I'm overreacting to this,
but there are enough misconceptions about origami out there that we don't need
more being disseminated this way.

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 22:00:50 -0400 (AST)
From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@brown.edu>
Subject: Re: Plans

>It would be nice to see e-mail that has some origami diagrams of the models
>people are talking about attached. In that way, others can try making the
>models as well!

I think that some day we'll be able to see it happen, but now there seems
to be too many who are unable to handle the situation.   One method is to
have the diagrams attached to email, although I don't know how many are
able to handle attachments.  These would have to be limited in length and
the most appropriate format for that is pdf.  In my experience one page of
my origami diagrams in pdf format  usually requires about 17k bytes.  It
requires a Adobe Acrobat Reader 3.0, which can be downloaded  for free but
takes up about 8 mb of storage.  Also to create diagrams not only requires
a drawing program and Adobe's Distiller 3. to convert to pdf.  Simply using
a scanner to read a diagram is too costly in storage for distribution to
everyone.  Postscript and other formats have been tried, but not everyone
can handle them.  Besides the diagrams usually take storage and download
time,  and are not suitable for email operation.  Until that someday comes
we have to be satisfied with personal home web pages we have to contadt
individually.  James M. Sakoda.  Web Page for origami drawings in compact
PDF form:  http://idt.net/~kittyv  .
Requires Adobe Acrobat Reader 3.0 which can be downloaded free from
http://www.adobe.com/acrobat

James M. Sakoda.  Web Page for origami drawings in compact PDF form:
http://idt.net/~kittyv  .
Requires Adobe Acrobat Reader 3.0 which can be downloaded free from
http://www.adobe.com/acrobat





Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 00:21:19 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: China's "Living National Treasures"

Those of you in Philly have a great opportunity to find out more about the
traditional crafts (including paper crafts) of China. At the Franklin
Institute Science Museum right now is a show entitled "China: Ancient Arts and
Sciences" that will run through May. The show was organised by the Beijing
Science and Technology Exchange, with help from a group called "Ancient
China's Traditional Technology." Fourteen artisans of fourteen different types
of Chinese crafts are demonstrating their skills in this show. Included are
Zou Duoxue, paper maker, Wang Ning, graduate of the prestigious Ha School of
kite makers (I'd never heard of such a thing!), and Liu Ren, paper cutter.
Liu has spent 20 years perfecting her technique and all of her intricate
designs are done with scissors! I hope that people in that area will visit the
show and report back to us on what they discover.

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 00:58:42 -0400 (AST)
From: Rodney Fetveit <rodster@erinet.com>
Subject: Re: Dollar Bill Origami

> >
> >     I am looking for detailed diagrams (*.PDF) of dollar bill folds.

Not to sound stupid or anything...BUT
How do you use *.pdf files??

Rodney





Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 03:30:51 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Math and sonobe modules

On Thu, 3 Apr 1997 helena@mast.QueensU.CA wrote:

=Where can I find out what the sonobe module is?

It exists in many books. Try "The New Origami" by Steve & Megumi Biddle, for
one.

=I only just found out about maths and origame, and already
=heard from some very nice math-origami people.  But I've still not
=got hold of the books.

Take a look at Tom Hull's list of ori-math references at
<http://www.math.uri.edu/~hull/oribib.html>.

=I put my instructions for the module I made on my page at
=http://www.mast.queensu.ca/~helena/origami.html

Very nice. I'll add a link to it.

=Are there more online instructions for mathematical origami
=out there?

Yes, but I don't know if there is a topical list of them. You can try doing a
search at my site for the word "math" and seeing what turns up. You're bound

=I'd only made tetrahedron, octahedron, and icosohedron at first
=(will these have the same volume as for the sonobe module?)

No. The Sonobe module does not use 60-degree geometry as yours does, but
rather uses a 45/90-degree geometry.

=But I tried the stellated octahedron last night, and was
=surprized to find that I could only manage by using all peices
=identical (no mirror images); so I was thinking about trying
=to prove that it can't be made from pieces that are not all
=the same.  Do people already have proofs of things like that?

Tom? Any replies on this? How about Jeannine or Valerie?

=Anyway, I expect I need to look at all the references first,
=but really this is just an email to say "Hello!", since I
=only just subscribed to this list the other day.  I'm looking
=forwards to learning a lot more about mathematical origami.

Welcome aboard! And keep asking questions. It keeps us on our toes. 8) And any
answers you discover along the way would be nice, too!

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 09:49:11 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Alex's new web URL

Joseph,

Maybe you could just add one of, or a new one of,
your little origami icons to the listings to indicate
which sites have diagrams...

-valerie





Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 00:34:37 -0400 (AST)
From: imcarrie@actrix.gen.nz (Ian Carrie)
Subject: Origami Quilts

In the last few weeks there have been one or two references to origami
quilts in postings on this list.

I would like to know some more about this topic. A brief explanation would
be welcome. References (books, Internet sites) would also be much
appreciated.

I am the folder in our family while my partner is a very enthusiastic
(fabric) quilter!

Ian Carrie
Wellington
New Zealand.





Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 20:51:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Non-Convex Paper

At 06:18 PM 12/12/96 -0400, DLister891@aol.com wrote:

>For the moment, I merely wish to add a limited note about folding from
>non-convex paper, which has been equated with star-shaped paper (though I can
>think of shapes of non-convex paper which are not stars in the ordinary sense
>of the word.)
>
>The 19th Century (c.1850) Japanese manuscript encyclopaedia, "Kayaragusa",
>popularly known as the "Kan no mado", effectively uses star shapes for many
>of its models. For instance, it will begin with a convex octagon and then cut
>vertically inward towards the centre from the mid-point of each side.  The
>raw cut edges are then folded back to the corners of the octagon to form an
>eight-pointed star. The same technique is used in other models starting from
>a square or hexagon to form four and six pointed stars.
>
>A six-pointed star created in this way is used as the base for the famous Kan
>no mado dragonfly that so intrigued folders in the 1950s. Only the second
>part of the instructions were known (omitting the base) before the dicovery
>of the copy of the Kan no mado in the Library of Congress in 1960.. Ligia
>Montoya was the first to work out the base for the dragonfly and to complete
>the folding of it.
>
>In fact, these bases use more cutting than is necessary for the creation of
>the preliminary star. The cut into each side of the respective polygons is
>continued nearly to the centre of the paper, to give more freedom for folding
>the arms of the star. This technique is applied in the dragonfly.
>
>The Kan no mado was a private manuscript compilation  of knowledge, not
>intended for publication. It is now thought that the paperfolding was derived
>from the same school of paperfolding as produced the Senbazuru Orikata, which
>was published as a printed book in 1797.
>
>If this very important and ancient school of Japanese paperfolding could
>employ such "illicit" techniques, who are we to say that "Origami"takes
>flight at the first sight of a pair of scissors?

While I am certainly not the scholar David is on matters of origami
history, it is obvious to me that the *origami* of the kan no mado period
has a radically different flavor than the origami of today. My theory on
the extensive use of cutting for *ancient origami* was that paper was much
more valuable back then, so any technique that conserved paper was gladly
embrased. I could go through a slew of reasons on how using cutting for the
formation of appendages greatly maximizes your given area of paper. I think
the art of origami has to some degree evolved into an art of forming
appendages. Even on a purely superficial asthetic level, *cut* appendages
and *folded* appendages have an entirely different look, as they stem from
entirely different ideals. Origami has evolved so much since ancient times,
I would hesitate to call artwork of the kan no mado style (if it were to
appear today), origami. It would almost be like seeing a Neanderthal in
modern times, and calling him human. Origami in the ancient style would
make excellent kirigami today, but I think the ideals of origami have
changed considerably.

Marc





Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 20:51:44 -0300 (ADT)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Origami Philosophy (Was: Re: non-convex paper)

>It is of course true that paper does not naturally form itself into squares,
>therefore the 'preferred' starting shape of a square in itself represents
>cutting and conditioning the paper, no argument there.
>
>However, applying this argument to other crafts and art forms I believe the
>preference for square paper holds up.  For example, you can buy kits to make
>decorative pillows or dolls or whatever.  Some of these come with the
>pattern pieces already cut out and all the accessories included (buttons,
>eyes, etc.).  I've always wondered what's the point of going to the trouble
>of hand-crafting if everything is prepared to this extent.  IMHO, this is
>similar to the pre-grated cheese, pre-mixed peanut butter and jelly, and
>pre-made salads that disgrace the shelves of many supermarkets.

        Here's an origami philosophical question that springs to mind from
all this:  obviously, some models (say, for example, Dave Brill's "Horse")
are made from non-square paper (in this case, an equilateral triangle).
_But_, if we first fold the equilateral triangle from a square, then isn't
the model folded from a square?  Similarly, isn't folding a "Flapping Bird"
from a dollar bill making the model from a
1:something-point-something-something-something instead of a square, even
though one must first fold the bill into a square and then proceed?  Where
does one draw the line?

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  768-2701
Southern Methodist University
Box 750395                            jdharris@post.smu.edu
Dallas  TX  75275-0395                (Compuserve:  102354,2222)

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                       _-_-- \ _/  -          ) '      / )  )  \
"Evolution: It's      _-_/   / /   /          /  '     /_/   /   \
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Body!"              /(__--    /    '-_     /    \ \  / /    )  (\_)
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                     AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA--- .      o          -o---'  /





Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 20:50:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: Vincent & Veronique <osele@worldnet.fr>
Subject: Fr: papier non carre

Salut,

Le sujet sur les papiers de toutes les formes me fait penser a divers
papiers utilises:

- pou nos demonstrations, on a boule modulaire faite en couvercles de
pot de yaourt !

- Une dame du club avait presente une fois une tete de chat faite
avec un... couvercle de boite de Sheba (nouriture pour chat)

Tout se plie ! (meme la pate feuilletee)

Vincent
 _______                                                     _____
|       | Osele Vincent (Toulouse/France) Membre du MFPP    /|    |
|       | osele@worldnet.fr                                /_|    |
|       | http://www.worldnet.fr/~osele/origami.htm       |       |
|_______| -----------------> ORIGAMI -------------------> |_______|





Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 20:51:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: non-convex paper

At 10:40 AM 12/12/96 -0400, Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com> wrote:
>
>As a result, I find it hard to accept convex shapes as OK but not concave
>ones.  The arguments for a "regular" polygon is more interesting, since I
find
>no reason to prefer the shape and symmetry of a square over that of other
>shapes.  Nature uses many different forms of symmetry, so there is no
>"natural" preference for a square, only an artificially induced one. ;-)
>Actually, I find the equilateral triangle the purest form to start from
>because it is the regular polygon with the smallest number of sides. ;-)
>

This is an interesting point. I have always considered the square as the
choice origami shape, to be somewhat arbitrary. It has developed a strong
establishment in the origami community, and it's form has the strongest
association when the word *origami* is mentioned. I do not think choosing
the square had anything to do with any particular semblance to nature. In
fact, one of the interesting things about origami is the creator's ability
to somehow work the symetry of the subject matter into the very different
symmetry of the square.

It would be interesting if the triangle were the shape of choice for
origami. However, probably for practical reasons, the sqaure became the
form. I have always liked to think of origami as being somewhat analogous
to Haiku, the form of poetry with a very strict format. deviating from the
format would not render the poem bad, but it would no longer be regarded as
Haiku. Origami seems to have yet establish an official form. Deviations
from *my* favorite form (single square, no cuts) seem to abound. I think
this is a shame, not just for origami, but for the deviations on origami.
For example, I sometimes feel that dollar bill folds should not be regarded
as origami. The symetry of the paper being delt with is quite different
from the square; the creator has a whole different set of obstacles to
overcome. To call such work origami is somewhat downplaying  the difficulty
the dollar as an artistic medium imposes.

The reality of this above scenario is that origami as an art has a much
bigger name than bill folding, so both art forms seem to be lumped
together. The same argument can be extended for modular folds, composite
folds, ect. While to the general public this will all be just origami for
quite some time, as origamists, we should be able to respect and appreciate
what each of us are able to do with our choices of medium.

Marc





Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 21:36:15 -0300 (ADT)
From: PErick3491@aol.com
Subject: help

Help!  I've been on the origami list for months--just lurking.  This week I
got dropped.  I subscribed again and received one day's mail.  Now I think
I've been dropped again.  I'm not getting any mail.  Can someone out there
please tell me what to do.  Please send replies to my e-mail address as
nothing is coming over the list.  Thanks for any help.  Pat Erickson





Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 21:42:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pat Slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: origami at education site....

Came across some origami at this education site:

http://www.tenthplanet.com/Geometry/resource/2inv1.html

Found it interesting that it was part of a theme on "shapes within shapes".
Of particular interest for some perhaps is the link to this stanford site
with nice photo instructions for the crane and yakko:

http://jw.stanford.edu:80/KIDS/SCHOOL/ART/kids_arts.html

pat slider.





Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 21:39:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: David Jacobs <daj@powerup.com.au>
Subject: Re: Origami Quilts

Ian Carrie wrote:
>
> In the last few weeks there have been one or two references to origami
> quilts in postings on this list.
>
> I would like to know some more about this topic. A brief explanation would
> be welcome. References (books, Internet sites) would also be much
> appreciated.
>
> I am the folder in our family while my partner is a very enthusiastic
> (fabric) quilter!
>
> Ian Carrie
> Wellington
> New Zealand.
When I was still living in the UK I met with Wendy Lowes at a British
Origami convention. She used origami with fabrics. The Oct 1994 BOS Mag
front cover has some of her work on it.
Wendy was as well informed in origami as she was in fabric and quilt
work.
The easiest way to contact her might be through ther BOS membership
secreatary on
penny@sector.deamon.co.uk





Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 21:50:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: nienhuis@westworld.com (Bob Nienhuis)
Subject: Re: Dollar Bill Origami

>Allen Parry wrote:
>About wait-staff withholding his food until he folds a new model, and
>about wait-staff that ignores the model and unfolds it.
>
I have had a few of these kinds of bad experiences when leaving dollar bill
origami as tips, but generally have had a great many more positive ones.
I even got kissed once!

Mostly, the servers are quite concerned that I get to eat my meal while
it is hot, and very politely wait until I am done before making special
requests. They also are pretty understanding if I am in a hurry and don't
have time to make them something. When I do get requests, it is generally
because they want to give something special to a friend or relative. And
THAT really makes me feel pretty good, that thay think my work is special
enough to qualify as a gift for a friend.

Bob Nienhuis
nienhuis@wgn.net
http://www.wgn.net/~nienhuis/

Check out my website. I have just posted instructions for my dollar bill
catapult in streaming video format!





Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 21:53:44 -0300 (ADT)
From: nienhuis@westworld.com (Bob Nienhuis)
Subject: Experiment

I am tryimg an experinent in a new way of distributing Origami folding
instructions using streaming video on the web. Anyone out there with
a 28.8KBPS modem, and a multimedia computer system including sound card
and a SVGA monitor, please check out my new webpage. the URL is:

http://www.wgn.net/~nienhuis/

Please note that the the target audience for this venture is the
INEXPERIENCED folder who gets stalled on interpreting diageams, and
that I am aware that the size of the video clips are not all the same.
I am also aware that the sound is uneven. I AM working on it! Consider
this the first rough cut.

You will nwwd to download the (FREE) VivoActive video player VERSION 2
beta in order to view the videos. You can also use it to watch Ron Regan
on First TV with it, so it won't be a complete waste.

Let me know what you think.

Bob Nienhuis
nienhuis@wgn.net
http://www.wgn.net/~nienhuis/





Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 22:00:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: David Jacobs <daj@powerup.com.au>
Subject: Re: Alex's new web URL

Valerie Vann wrote:
>
> Joseph,
>
> Maybe you could just add one of, or a new one of,
> your little origami icons to the listings to indicate
> which sites have diagrams...
>
> -valerie
you can preview Postscript documnets using ghostview
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html
It works well enough to print out and preveiw on non postscript printers
and it's free!!
