




Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:07:56 -0400 (AST)
From: "Steve W. Payne" <swpayne@cast.msstate.edu>
Subject: Re: Call for Model Donations

Contractors Exchange wrote:
> At 03:51 PM 3/11/97 -0400, "Steve W. Payne" <swpayne@cast.msstate.edu> wrote:
>
> >I was wondering if anyone had any models they would be willing to
> >provide for display purposes.  I would try my best to return them, but
> >you must understand, with so many people, accidents might happen.
>
> I would be interested. I am sure many others would be interested as well,
> so you might as well post to the list any criteria the origami must meet
> (size, subject,ect) , as well as the information on who to send the
> materials to. Thank you.
> Marc
All subjects(except the adult models posted this year) are welcome.  I
hope to receive a wide variety of sizes and papers used, as well as
techniques such as wet-folding, etc.
I have already received a couple of responses from people offering to
permanently donate their models to the museum.  I have talked to the
museum director and she stated that a permanent exhibit will be arranged
for the models.  Models on loan are also gratefully welcome.
I would ask that you include the name of the model, the author, and a
short bio on yourself(the folder).  I want to be able to show the
visitors that Origami enthusiasts come from all walks of life, and that
you do not have to be "special" in order to create these wonderful works
of art.
All model donors, whether for permanent display or temporary loan, will
receive a letter of recognition from the museum.
Happy folding,
Steve

ps. Please send the models to the address below.  I'll be responsible
for them until the workshop on May 10.
--

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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:53:11 -0400 (AST)
From: Paula Larsen <paular@pdp.usu.edu>
Subject: Re: LARGE folds

I'd check out your local print shops for large, press size (anywhere
from 18x26 to 24X36) paper.  Much of it is too thick for easy folding,
but talk to the paper buyer--s/he might have something s/he could
special order for you.
--

******************************************
Eat a live toad the first thing every morning,
then nothing worse can happen to you all day.

******************************************

Paula H. Larsen
Assistant University Editor
Utah State University
paular@pdp.usu.edu





Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:19:50 -0400 (AST)
From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@sci.fi>
Subject: Re: *paper* for miniatures??

On 12-Mar-97, Reeds family (reeds@openix.com) wrote:
>>But what kind of paper do y'all use that can handle these tiny folds?

>And what kind of eyes?

Oh, we fold by touch. No eyes needed at all! :)

Jorma
--
Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

"It's a good thing the average person doesn't realize
 the awesome destructive power of origami"              Earthworm Jim





Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:00:44 -0400 (AST)
From: "S. Soon Hood" <sshood@sincom.com>
Subject: Hearthsong?

I think this is what the person was looking for.  (Sorry I already
deleted the original note.)

Hearthsong
156 N. Main St.
Sebastopol, Ca  95472
800 325 2502

I've heard that they have an outlet in Berkeley if you're ever in the
area.  If you have any kids, they can sign up for the birthday list and
receive free hand dipped birthday candles.

Soon Hood

------------------------------------------------------------------------

The years teach what the days don't know.
                           ----Ralph Waldo Emerson





Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:11:07 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Japanese Etiquette: Red [NO]

On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Steve Woodmansee wrote:

=Last week I got Tomoko Fuse's "How to Make Boxes From Just One Piece of
=Paper", which is printed only in Japanese, as far as I know.  The dominant
=colors on the cover are red and white.  Earlier posts gave me the impression
=this would be improper on a business card, so why is it more acceptable on a
=book?

Like I said, I believe that to be a mistaken impression. Red and white used
together are auspicious colours in Japan.

=If memory serves the reason given was that black & white were considered
=funereal colors and therefore not suitable for a restaurant. Is that correct?

Black is the colour of death in western society. White, if used together with
it, can also be (symbolising the hope of a new life).

=Are there other color-specific etiquettes observed?  Is "etiquettes" a word?
=Am I going to get flamed for this?  Answers to any of the foregoing would be
=interesting IMHO.

Of course there are. ("Etiquettes" is a word. "Etiquette" is defined as the
"forms required by good breeding, or prescribed by authority, to be observed
in social or official life; observance of the proprieties of rank and
occasion; conventional decorum; ceremonial code of polite society", so
different sets of rules in different countries would properly be called
"etiquettes".)

In the west: White for purity of the bride. Black for funerals.
In China: White for death. Red for celebration.

That's just a couple. There are many more. Someone else can list them if they
want to. 8)

For more reference, take a look at these sites.
Rose colours: <http://www.rose.org/Page6/page6a.html>
Sacred colours of the Cherokees:
  <http://www.powersource.com/cocinc/articles/colors.html>
Colours as dream symbols: <http://www.txmusic.com/Dreamer/sym-colr.htm>
Nazi colour codes: <http://www.calyx.net/triangle.html> and
  <http://www.deoxy.org/greentri.htm>
Freemason colours: <http://www.westol.com/~chico51/fmterms.html>
Santeria colours: <http://www.webspinnerspress.com/3rdstone/santero.htm>
Colours of Chinese flag: <http://www.chinatoday.com:80/general/a01.htm>
Colours in Taiwan: <http://www.ccchome.com:80/info/culture/cultur10.html>

And, from the "Color and Symbolism in Japan" page
<http://www.snet.org/EDU/QV/MIM/Mim.proj.jap.color.html>, here's the dope on
colours in Japan:

=Red (aka).................Life, vitality, energy, and the sun
=White (shiro).............Purity, sacredness
=Red/White.................Happiness, celebration (e.g. weddings, colors of
=                          Japanese flag)
=Green (midori)............Eternal life, spirit (e.g. evergreen trees, bamboo)
=Blue (ao).................The Sea
=Black (kuro)..............Mystery, night
=Black/white...............Mourning, death (e.g. funerals)
=Gold (kiniro).............Royalty, divinity (e.g. gold statues of Buddha),
=                          prosperity
=From the book: SYMBOLISM IN JAPANESE LANGUAGE AND CULTURE: Activities for the
=Elementary Classroom, SPICE (Stanford Program on International and
=Cross-Cultural Eduction.)

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:24:22 -0400 (AST)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: LARGE folds

Javier Cubero wrote asking about large "Land & Montroll size" origami paper,
preferably something in the 18-20 inches on a side range.

Joseph Wu replied:
+>Use something other than origami paper, then! 8) The largest origami paper
+>that I've seen is about 13.75 inches square.

Javier Cubero responded that he had used wrapping paper, but that the color
flaked off along the crease lines...

Someone else wrote that water color paper, esp. Canson Mi-tentes,
worked well when wet folded.  I have also found that "art" paper,
marbled paper, etc. often works well even dry folded.  I have used some
slightly thickish "washi"alike paper and even when dry folded it is suceptible

Many "import"/"art"/"speciality" papers are usually available in
19"x24", or larger, sheets.  I have also found that the brand
"Fadeless" art paper can often be found in rolls.  I managed to pick up
a four foot wide roll at an art store that was discontinuing the
Fadeless line.  I don't know if the manufacturer is not making it
anymore, or just why it was being discontinued.  It wasn't labelled for
length, but it was on a standard cardboard center and the paper part
was about two inches thick!  Enough green paper to last a while.

You can also find various calligraphy and tracing papers in rolls of
anywhere from one to three feet wide in arts supply and craft stores.
Usually only in white and "off white" shades though.  I've also found
"florists foils" of various constructions at a florist that was having
a "gone out of business" sale, some straight foil, and some with a
plastic sandwich.  They were two-and-a-half to three feet wide.  You
might find a sympathetic florist willing to part with samples, or a
whole roll, at cost.  The person I bought from was tickled when I
brought back a model made from the florists foil (Stamm's Dragon from
an 18" square) and she even chased me down on the street to let me know
she'd found more foil in a corner of the stock room!

Hurm... now that I think about it, Dick Blick and some other catalogs
sell paper on BIG rolls, primarily for use in schools, I think.  If my
catalogs surface I'll post what I find. ;-)

-Doug





Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:28:16 -0400 (AST)
From: Mike and Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Ring to Star model help??

Valerie Vann wrote:
> The description reminds me of a couple of modular models, such as
> an eight side ring that collapses into an octagon, by sliding the
> modules back and forth on their links. Does this octagonal ring
> to star ring a bell with anyone?

See "The Art of Origami" by Gay Merrill Gross.  There is a model in the
book called the Magic Star that fits your description.

Janet Hamilton

--
mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj/





Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:53:47 -0400 (AST)
From: Pat Slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: book review FAQ

The old book review FAQ is back up at the ftp site:

ftp://home.yosemite.net/home/slider/Origami.txt

It's developed a few text problems while bouncing around, but instead of
fixing them, I'm working on finishing up the newer html version. (Actually,
I just checked and seems that this little server of my provider's is down
again. A cranky beast. But perhaps it will be up again later tonight or by
tomorrow morning, so I'm going ahead and posting this URL.)

Hope to have the HTML version up and running by the weekend. Should be much
easier to deal with then this old, humongous text file. I'm working on
removing the "poll" slant, and making it possible to browse by title,
author, or category, i.e. beginner, complex, modulars, dinosaurs, flowers,
etc....

I suggest waiting for the new version!

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:54:04 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: national living treasures

On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Jeannine Mosely wrote:

=I have wondered for a while what it means for someone to be a
="National Living Treasure".  I think it was D. Lister who remarked
=recently that he didn't think Yoshizawa actually was one, even though
=he is often said to be, because Yoshizawa has never said as much.  But
=perhaps this is not something that is polite for the treasure himself
=to speak/write about?  If he is not a living treasure, I wonder if
=there is anything we can do to change that?

That was me. I think that if he were one, he would say so. He includes all of
his other important awards and achievements in his biographical sketches. And
somehow I doubt that the Japanese government would put much weight on opinions
of foreigners for such matters (although there have been exceptional
foreigners in the past who have made enormous cultural contributions...the
kabuki theatre was reinstated mainly due to the work of a foreigner, for
example).

=So we see that there is an official commitee that confers this honor.

That's right.

=It should be possible to find out what disciplines are considered for
=this designation, as well as the recipients, but if this information
=is on the web, it is probably in Japanese.

It's not that simple. Read this <http://japan.co.jp:80/tj/9510/city1.html> for
more information about the selection process.

More details can be found at the following sites:

Mingei - Japanese folk crafts (definition)
 From here it can be seen, as I've alluded to before, that origami does not
 fit into the definition of traditional Japanese folk crafts because it is not
 "functional" like pottery or textile design or paper making.
<http://www.art.unt.edu/ntieva/artcurr/japan/mingei/>
<http://www.pem.org/exhibits/mingei/mingei.htm>

Tokyo National Research Institute of Cultural Properties
<http://www.tobunken.go.jp/English/index_E.html>

Agency for Cultural Affairs (Ministry of Education, Science & Culture)
<http://jw.nttam.com/GOV/CABINET/MOE/MOE.organization.html>
<http://www.monbu.go.jp/hakusyo/eng/2-c10.html>
<http://www.monbu.go.jp/hakusyo/eng/2-c11.html>
<http://www.monbu.go.jp/em01040.html>

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:13:01 -0400 (AST)
From: J Armstrong <jcanada@clark.net>
Subject: Re: LARGE folds

Javier Cubero wrote:
>
> On Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:00:24 -0400 (AST),Joseph Wu wrote:
>
 what do people use when they need *large* squares?

Not exactly a fine paper but I use large rolls of butcher paper, you
know the colour of paper bags but a little bit shiny?  I Once saw a big
roll at a toy/craft store sold as paper to draw murals on.  I made giant
interlocking hearts (from the Ow book) for my husband that my daughter
decorated with crayons (she's five) and we put it in the living room.  I
don't know how well this paper would work for finer works with delicate
or close folds, my guess would be not brilliantly.  ( get it? brilliant
origami?   sorry)  J





Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:33:44 -0400 (AST)
From: OrigamiCMM@aol.com
Subject: Clear Paper

After I completed David Brill's Bottle (Which I *love*, btw) he said use
clear paper, preferrably big, like the stuff they use for library book
jackets.  Well, where would one get this paper, are there catalogues that
have library materials, and does anyone have their phone number/web address
to get one?

Also, are there any types of paper inbetween opaque and totally clear? Where
would I get this? OUSA?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated,

Chris Miller
OrigamiCMM@aol.com





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:26:16 -0400 (AST)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Re: glassine envelopes

>Monica Jones had mentioned of a company called "Hearth Song" having
>glassine envelopes available. Does anyone know the address/tel?

Hearthsong has glassine paper as part of a craft kit for children.  Their
current catalog has no glassine envelopes - that is not the sort of product
they carry.  It is a company providing toys for children.

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:38:25 -0400 (AST)
From: Marcia Mau <marcia.mau@pressroom.com>
Subject: Papers

Hammett's Learning World sell rolls of Fadeless paper by Bemiss Jason which
can be used for bulletin boards and origami.  It is available in solid
colors in two widths, about 18" and 30" .  In Northern Virginia, there are
Hammett's in Oakton and Springfield.  It may be available at Pearl or other
teachers' suppliers.

Bethesda Engravers, Ltd. has reduced the price of its Esleeck Blue Jean Bond
paper, available in boxes of 200 8 1/2x11" sheets.  It is 100% rag content
from denim cuttings. I paid $12 two years ago - it was much cheaper than
Crane's blue jean stationery.  Blue Jean Bond is now about $6 a box, plus
shipping and tax.  It was not a big seller.  After being discounted for
several years, the stock was shipped back to the warehouse in Baltimore.
Contact Dawn Spriggs @ 202-331-0550, 750 - 17th St NW, Washington, DC 20006.
FAX 202-331-0551.  Major credit cards.
Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA
marcia.mau@pressroom.com





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 04:38:16 -0400 (AST)
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Miniature fold

Javier Cubero wrote:

>>>>
Someone needs to make special "Lang & Montroll Size" origami paper,
for folding their wonderfully complex models, say 18-20" on a side.
Even the biggest size I generally find out there, (about 9" square ?)
doesn't yield a very large model 150 steps later.
<<<<

I should point out that _every_ model in _Origami Insects_ is foldable from
standard 10-inch origami paper, although of course a lot of them are more
effective if you start with something smaller (the Treehopper in the photo is
from a 1 cm square).

And in answer to a conjecture by Joseph Wu, the spider and tick (and
treehopper and ant) in Origami Insects were folded from artist's foil (I've
found it at many art stores that have a good paper selection, including
Amsterdam Art in Berkeley), dyed on the paper side with magic marker. This
works very well, but the absolutely thinnest foil paper I've found is from
Japan and miserly, I dole myself out a square every few months from my
precious but dwindling stock.

Robert J. Lang
rjlang@aol.com





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 05:00:28 -0400 (AST)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: National Living Treasures

In his posting yesterday, 13th March, Joseph Wu mentioned that he thought
that I had said that Mr.Yoshizawa was NOT a National Living Treasure.

For the record, I have never said that, or it I have appeared to say it, can
only have been a typing error.

In fact, I do not know whether Yoshizawa has been declared a National Living
Treasure. Until  Jeannine Mosely's posting last night, I didn't know what the
honour was and assumed it to be from the Japanese Government or the Emperor.

I should very much like to know authoritatively whether Mr. Yoshizawa is a
National Living Treasure or not. If he is not, then he ought to be.

On the other hand, Origami is not regarded as a traditional art in Japan. It
does not rank, for instance, with lacquerwork or ceramics or calligraphy,
which have a long history of being appreciated by connoisseurs. It is only
through the genius of Yoshizawa himself that origami has been raised, de
facto, to the level of an art, whether or not it has been recognised de jure
as an art by Japanese Society.

I certainly would not wish to offend Mr. Yoshizawa by saying he was not a
National Living Treasure, if in fact, he has been honoured with that
distinction. Perhaps someone  could make more enquiries. (I daren't ask
Joseph Wu - I believe we impose much too much on him already: I think we
should declare him a an Origami-L Living Treasure!)

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 05:32:22 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: National Living Treasures

On Thu, 13 Mar 1997 DLister891@aol.com wrote:

=In his posting yesterday, 13th March, Joseph Wu mentioned that he thought
=that I had said that Mr.Yoshizawa was NOT a National Living Treasure.

Well, if I said that, I'm sorry. What I meant to say was that you said that
Yoshizawa has never made that claim himself. (What a hideous sentence I just
wrote!)

=In fact, I do not know whether Yoshizawa has been declared a National Living
=Treasure. Until  Jeannine Mosely's posting last night, I didn't know what the
=honour was and assumed it to be from the Japanese Government or the Emperor.

Well, it is presided over by a committee, as a function of the Agency for
Cultural Affairs, which is a department of the Ministry of Education, Science
& Culture. I believe that the Emperor does participate in the presentation of
the title, though. Seriously, though, this is the best article you'll find on
the selection process: <http://japan.co.jp:80/tj/9510/city1.html>.

=I should very much like to know authoritatively whether Mr. Yoshizawa is a
=National Living Treasure or not. If he is not, then he ought to be.

=On the other hand, Origami is not regarded as a traditional art in Japan. It
=does not rank, for instance, with lacquerwork or ceramics or calligraphy,
=which have a long history of being appreciated by connoisseurs. It is only
=through the genius of Yoshizawa himself that origami has been raised, de
=facto, to the level of an art, whether or not it has been recognised de jure
=as an art by Japanese Society.

And therein lies the rub. Since is not a traditional craft, mainly because it
is not a functional craft, it would be hard to convince the committee to even
consider Yoshizawa for such a position. And, even if they agree to consider
him, it would probably take so long for them to decide that...

=I certainly would not wish to offend Mr. Yoshizawa by saying he was not a
=National Living Treasure, if in fact, he has been honoured with that
=distinction. Perhaps someone  could make more enquiries. (I daren't ask
=Joseph Wu - I believe we impose much too much on him already: I think we
=should declare him a an Origami-L Living Treasure!)

Well, I'm making arrangements to go visit him at the end of the month. If it
comes up (and I can remember how to say it in Japanese), I'll ask him about
it.

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 07:33:18 -0400 (AST)
From: lillian alexander <lillian@america.net>
Subject: Japanese thin foil paper

Rjlang@aol.com wrote:

> ... the absolutely thinnest foil paper I've found is from
> Japan and miserly, I dole myself out a square every few months from my
> precious but dwindling stock.
>

Do you know the source of the foil in Japan?  I will be in Tokyo for a
couple of days in April and would love to find some.  Lillian Alexander





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:29:09 -0400 (AST)
From: Mark Morden <marmonk@eskimo.com>
Subject: April Meeting of Seattle's PAPER

For those in the Seattle area, the April PAPER meeting will be Sunday, April
6, from 1-4 p.m., at the University Heights Community Center (5031
University Way NE), Room 107. This room is at the north end of the first
floor.  For now we have planned learning a dolphin model, a LaFosse dollar
bill butterfly, and one with two cranes in a bird bath.  We are open to
suggestions and volunteers that may have something they would like t share.

I hope you can make it.  Please bring your latest folds to share or photos
or books or anything else origami. Also, a couple of bucks to help pay for
the room rental would be appreciated.  If you have any questions or need
directions to the community center, please email me at the address below.

See you in a few weeks!

Mark

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the Sun
has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it
I see everything else.
                       C.S. Lewis, "The Weight of Glory"





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:55:18 -0400 (AST)
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: National Living Treasures

Just to set the record straight: I couldn't remember who said they
thought Mr. Yoshizawa was not a National Living Treasure.  I
attributed the remark incorrectly to David Lister, but it turns out
that it was Joseph Wu.  Now David and Joseph are having a little
apology-argument over who said what.  It's all might fault.  I'm
sorry.

        -- Jeannine Mosely





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:48:11 -0400 (AST)
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: Re: Miniature fold

At 04:38 AM 3/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I should point out that _every_ model in _Origami Insects_ is foldable from
>standard 10-inch origami paper, although of course a lot of them are more
>effective if you start with something smaller (the Treehopper in the photo is
>from a 1 cm square).

  I agree, although some are quite difficult to successfully fold with a
1-inch sheet, namely the praying mantis and the scorpion. If you want proof
of this, the pictures on my _Origami Insects_ page are all folded from
10-inch squares:

http://www.netspace.org/~ema/insects.html

As for the models from books such as _Origami Fantasy_, I usually go to the
local art supply store (the RISD Bookstore, which is great, for those of
you in the Providence area) for larger paper. They sell 48-inch rolls of
paper which is pretty much equivalent to kami paper; in fact, I remember it
even says on the wrapping that it can be used for origami. Tom Hull and I
used a 4'x4' square to fold a flower tower last year, and I used it to fold
the stegosaurus that can be seen on my _Origami Fantasy_ page. The only
downside, of course, is that you get an entire roll of one color, and you
end up making lots of red models (and in view of previous discussions, this
could mean a lot of things...)!

-Eric  :-P

 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
      Eric Andersen | Math major
   Brown University | origami@brown.edu
 http://www.netspace.org/~ema/origami.html





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:08:14 -0400 (AST)
From: Allen Parry <parry@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Miniature fold

With all of the talk of miniture folds.....

I had to get my photo from last years OUSA convention
of Jose Arley Moreno's "Crane on the Point of a Pin".
The most incredible thing!

I heard the model was lost at the convention.  Vacuumed
up by the janitors???

Anyway, I put the photo into a web page....a must to see!

look in:     http://www.eskimo.com/~parry

Have fun....
Allen Parry
parry@eskimo.com





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:24:45 -0400 (AST)
From: tait@earthlink.net
Subject: Hearth Song

Hello- Thanks all- for the info on glassine sheets. The company carries
a rainbow pack- 10 colors for $4.95 and a jewel tone pack 9 colors for
$3.95. It sounds interesting and might be fun to fold with.

.. my motto (or problem) "one can never have enough origami paper and
books"

Regards,
Tricia





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:28:28 -0400 (AST)
From: "Goveia, William P" <wgoveia@indiana.edu>
Subject: RE: Miniature fold

Man...  I was just about to rush to your page to see the model folded
from the 1 inch sheet!

>-----Original Message-----
>From:  Eric Andersen [SMTP:Eric_Andersen@brown.edu]
>Sent:  Thursday, March 13, 1997 10:19 AM
>To:    Multiple recipients of list
>Subject:       Re: Miniature fold
>
>At 10:48 AM 3/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>  I agree, although some are quite difficult to successfully fold with a
>>1-inch sheet, namely the praying mantis and the scorpion....
> ^^^^^^
>
>Oops! Well, yes they're *all* difficult to fold with a 1-inch sheet!
>I meant 10-inch...
>
>-Eric  :-P
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>      Eric Andersen | Math major
>   Brown University | origami@brown.edu
> http://www.netspace.org/~ema/origami.html





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:18:18 -0400 (AST)
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: Re: Miniature fold

At 10:48 AM 3/13/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>  I agree, although some are quite difficult to successfully fold with a
>1-inch sheet, namely the praying mantis and the scorpion....
 ^^^^^^

Oops! Well, yes they're *all* difficult to fold with a 1-inch sheet!
I meant 10-inch...

-Eric  :-P

 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
      Eric Andersen | Math major
   Brown University | origami@brown.edu
 http://www.netspace.org/~ema/origami.html





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:37:52 -0400 (AST)
From: "S.W. Nelson" <sn5@earthlink.net>
Subject: Miniature fold praying mantis

I must ask a favor of someone. Here goes..
The praying mantis is my favorite, except I'm having an
awful time with it. I really want one..(grin)
could someone send me a mini one? I'd trade something of
mine? Don't know what, but I make mini everything..
how about it??

Rachael Olivia
ps did someone say that OUSA wouldn't be sending out the
Paper any longer? I just sent my subsript off.

pss... I really like Joseph's teddy too...but, no... nevermind
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Be glad for "Hope". It is something all are born with
and doesn't die until_It's finished.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Olivia~~~~~~~~~~~





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:28:10 -0400 (AST)
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Miniature fold

Eric Andersen tells us that the RISD Bookstore sells "48-inch rolls of
paper which is pretty much equivalent to kami paper".  Could you tell
us the brand name?  Then we would know what to ask for at other
stores.  Thanks.

        -- Jeannine Mosely





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:18:21 -0400 (AST)
From: "Goveia, William P" <wgoveia@indiana.edu>
Subject: RE: Miniature fold

Now I have to apologize for over-quoting!

>-----Original Message-----
>From:  Goveia, William P
>Sent:  Thursday, March 13, 1997 10:29 AM
>To:    Multiple recipients of list
>Subject:       RE: Miniature fold
>
>Man...  I was just about to rush to your page to see the model folded
>from the 1 inch sheet!
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Eric Andersen [SMTP:Eric_Andersen@brown.edu]





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:59:23 -0400 (AST)
From: Marcus Ritter <mbgc6mtr@fs4.eng.man.ac.uk>
Subject: Chess

I am arecent subscriber to this mailing list.
Since I recently discovered the 64 piece cheesboard, I wondered, does
anybody know about any chess pieces? i would be vey grateful.

M. Ritter





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:02:17 -0400 (AST)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: large(r) papers

Someone on a quilting show mentioned an interesting paper to use (they were
using it for drawing clothing pattern pieces):  examination table paper.
This is the roll of paper that doctor's offices pull over the exam tables
for each patient.  It has been a while since I've been in an exam room, but
the paper must be at least 18 inches wide and is lighter weight than
Fadeless or anything of that sort.  Of course, it is only in white, but...

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:57:17 -0400 (AST)
From: Lisa.Hodsdon/McDougal/hmco@Owl.nstn.ca
Subject: Art & Math 97

I just got the information for the Art & Math 97 conference & there's
something that many of you will be excited about.

First off: Dates: June 21-25. I believe this is the weekend/week prior to
the OUSA convention in New York. Can someone confirm this for me.

Jumping right to the "origami":

Monday 2-3 pm: Chris Palmer "The Development of Vertextiles"

Wednesday (teacher workshops) Chris Palmer:
9:30-12:30: "The Anatomy of Islamic Tilings
1:30-3:30: "Creating Geometric Patterns with Paper Folding"

Some other talks that sound good to me...

Dick Termes: Six Point Perspective on the Sphere
George Hart: Colorful, Take-apart, Real & Virtual Polyhedra
Kevin Lee: Virtual Kaleidoscopes
Douglas Klein: Architectural Ceramic Sculpture & Tilings
John Conway: Classification of Polyhedra with Models
Joan Morris: The Inherently Symmetric Textile Art of Shibouri

For registration information, contact
Nat Friedman
Department of Mathemtics
University at Albany, SUNY
1400 Washington Avenue
Albany, NY  12222
artmath@math.albany.edu

It's exhausting. Mathematicians complain that there's too little math.
But for some people, it shares the glory of the OUSA convention that
you get to meet other people who share your obsessions. I'm going to
try to make it again this year.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:15:12 -0400 (AST)
From: Molly Haarhoff <mhaarhof@stimpy.acofi.edu>
Subject: Re: Clear Paper

OrigamiCMM@aol.com wrote:
>
> After I completed David Brill's Bottle (Which I *love*, btw) he said use
> clear paper, preferrably big, like the stuff they use for library book
> jackets.  Well, where would one get this paper, are there catalogues that
> have library materials, and does anyone have their phone number/web address
> to get one?
>
>> Chris Miller
> OrigamiCMM@aol.com
DEMCO is a major library supplier--their number is 1-800-356-1200.  They
will send you a catalogue.  Frankly, I'd go down to my local library and
work out something to get a sample cover to try out as there are many
varieties of covers (which I assume vary in thickness) and the minimum
order is 50 covers. 16" is the widest size you can get.
E-mail me privately is you need more info.





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:46:32 -0400 (AST)
From: Contractors Exchange <contract@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Chess

At 11:59 AM 3/13/97 -0400, Marcus Ritter <mbgc6mtr@fs4.eng.man.ac.uk> wrote:
>I am arecent subscriber to this mailing list.
>Since I recently discovered the 64 piece cheesboard, I wondered, does
>anybody know about any chess pieces? i would be vey grateful.

I am planning on teaching one at the upcoming OrigamiUSA convention in NYC,
USA (alond with complementary chess boards). There are some sets that were
published already. One is in John Montroll's book, "Origami Inside-Out."
Also, the BOS booklet (#10 I believe), has instructions for a few sets. Marc





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:24:46 -0400 (AST)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Chess

Marc Kirschenbaum, replying to a query re "pieces to go with a chessboard"
mentioned Montroll's _Origami_Inside-Out_ and a BOS booklet (#10?).

I can't resist a plug for one of my favorite Origami books:
    "Origami Plain & Simple" by Robert Neale and Thomas Hull
since it contains models for a modular "modern" set of chess pieces.
"Modern" means that they are somewhat geometric and abstract.

-Doug "Queen to Queen's level 3" Philips





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:59:42 -0400 (AST)
From: preaux <preaux@univ-lyon1.fr>
Subject: Re: Miniature fold praying mantis

S.W. Nelson wrote:
>
> I must ask a favor of someone. Here goes..
> The praying mantis is my favorite, except I'm having an
> awful time with it. I really want one..(grin)
> could someone send me a mini one? I'd trade something of
> mine? Don't know what, but I make mini everything..
> how about it??
>
> Rachael Olivia
> ps did someone say that OUSA wouldn't be sending out the
> Paper any longer? I just sent my subsript off.
>
> pss... I really like Joseph's teddy too...but, no... nevermind
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Be glad for "Hope". It is something all are born with
> and doesn't die until_It's finished.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Olivia~~~~~~~~~~~

Well, great a Praying Mantis in a one inch square !!!
For me it's a different story...:-<
After about ten tries with 50 cm square sheets of paper i'm steel gluing
in the step 47...(I'm speaking of the diagram in the archive) does
someone can help ?
i would live better after having my one praying mantis...

Cyrille Praux





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:25:38 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: ELFA (leather ;)

DLister891@aol.com sez

>Nick Robinson does ELFA a disservice by saying there are ony ten members
>worldwide. This is misleading

A statement clearly based on ignorance! I had some info on ELFA a year
or so ago & it only listed a few (full!) members. My apologies to ELFA.

>ELFA has a curious structure of Full Memebers and Associate Members.

Curious indeed!

> The rules have been widened and additional Full members are accepted by
>invitation if they are keenly active in their participation.

This doesn't seem conducive to active participation in the society but
is typical of John's eye to detail....

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:36:40 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Ring to Star model help??

I figured out which model I was remembering,
it is an 8-side ring that you push in to get
an 8-point "ninja star", i.e. a pin-wheel
type star with an octagon in the center.

It makes a nice coaster, and a restful plaything
for boring meetings, especially as you can make
them from square PostIts(tm) if you put the sticky
strip of the PostIt along the edge of the units where
both corners get folded inside.

I remembered how to make the modules and will
mail a quickie diagram to the person who inquired.
Was this design by J.C.Nolan? or one of the
Dutch designers? I don't think I saw it in the
G.M.Gross book Janet Hamilton cites; I think I
learned it somewhere else...  (I've mislaid my
set of Gross' books, they're in a storage box
somewhere).

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:35:57 -0400 (AST)
From: Mary & Bruce Thornhill <thorn01@gte.net>
Subject: Lost?

I appear to have "lost" the origami listing.  For awhile I was receiving
messages posted to the list on a daily basis and found it quite
informative.  I guess I am one of the "lurkers" everyone was talking
about.  Suddenly there is nothing coming.  Have I been removed from the
list?  Can anyone tell me what happened?  I would greatly appreciate any
help.

Mary Thornhill
thorn01@gte.net





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:29:21 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Miniature fold

On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Allen Parry wrote:

=I had to get my photo from last years OUSA convention of Jose Arley Moreno's
="Crane on the Point of a Pin".  The most incredible thing!
=
=I heard the model was lost at the convention.  Vacuumed up by the janitors???

Is this a trend? The year before, one of Robert Lang's tiny insectiods (I
believe it was the little black spider) was lost and presumed vacuumed.

=Anyway, I put the photo into a web page....a must to see!
=look in:     http://www.eskimo.com/~parry

Pretty impressive. It's so small that some of the stray paper fibres look like
extra appendages! 8)

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:44:55 -0400 (AST)
From: hull@MATH.URI.EDU
Subject: RE: The Paper Winter issue mailing

Hello people!

I have news in response to everyone who hasn't yet received their Winter
issue of The Paper, Origami USA's magazine.  The OUSA office administrator,
Risa Miller, just informed me that there was some kind of problem with
the mass mailing of that issue, especially with some members who were
supposed to receive it 1st class.  OUSA is unable to track these kind
of mailings, and thus has no clue who are the victims of this mailing
tragedy.

SO, if you are a member of OUSA and never received your copy of the
Winter issue of The Paper (The one with David Brill on the
cover), please let the OUSA office know and they will sent you a
replacement copy.  (The phone number is (212) 768-5635.)

---- Tom "messenger boy" Hull
     hull@math.uri.edu
     http://www.math.uri.edu/~hull





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:26:00 -0400 (AST)
From: Belinda Holbrook <holbrook@netins.net>
Subject: Magic Star

The directions for The Magic Star are indeed in one of Gay Merrill Gross'
books, The Art of Origami. She credits the design to Robert Neale. It is
one model that I love to do with kids. I am a school media specialist and
over the years I have enjoyed teaching kids origami. Often kids who are
not as successful academically as others, can shine with origami and
become leaders and teachers. I'd love to hear from others who enjoy
working with children.

Belinda Holbrook
Davenport, IA
holbrook@netins.net





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:30:00 -0400 (AST)
From: Marty Katz <mandrk@pb.net>
Subject: Re: Ring to Star model help??

Valerie,

The model is by Bob Neale. It was originally in "The Magic of
Origami" by Gray and Kasahara. It was called a coaster, I believe.
It is also in Gay's book. It is a lovely simple model that also works
well with recycled paper (printed on one side). The finished model is
pleasing on both sides.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:06:27 -0400 (AST)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Re: National Living Treasures

>Well, it is presided over by a committee, as a function of the Agency for
>Cultural Affairs, which is a department of the Ministry of Education, Science
>& Culture. I believe that the Emperor does participate in the presentation of
>the title, though. Seriously, though, this is the best article you'll find on
>the selection process: <http://japan.co.jp:80/tj/9510/city1.html>.

Alas, I cannot search the web from my decrepit machine, so that will have to
wait.  But, if National Living Treasure is an official designation, then
wouldn't there be some publicly available listing of who has received the
honor?  If not on the web, then some library somewhere ought to have it,
yes?  Anyone have any spare research time?

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:58:27 -0400 (AST)
From: Mitsuhiko Ota <otam@gusun.acc.georgetown.edu>
Subject: Re: National Living Treasures

The National Living Treasure Homepage (http://www.bch.isp.ntt.jp/topics/
ningen-kokuhou/main-e.htm) has a list of the current Bearers of
Important Intangible Cultural Properties (i.e. the 'living treasures').
Alas, Yoshizawa is not one of them.  He would have been, I'm sure, if
origami (or papercraft in general) were a designated area of national
treasure.  Within arts & crafts, the official areas are: ceramic art,
metalwork, bamboo & woodwork, lacquer, textile dyeing, and bachiru.  I
guess they don't consider origami an important cultural property...

Mitsuhiko Ota
otam@gusun.georgetown.edu





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 02:21:51 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: National Living Treasures

On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Mitsuhiko Ota wrote:

=The National Living Treasure Homepage (http://www.bch.isp.ntt.jp/topics/
=ningen-kokuhou/main-e.htm) has a list of the current Bearers of
=Important Intangible Cultural Properties (i.e. the 'living treasures').
=Alas, Yoshizawa is not one of them.  He would have been, I'm sure, if
=origami (or papercraft in general) were a designated area of national
=treasure.  Within arts & crafts, the official areas are: ceramic art,
=metalwork, bamboo & woodwork, lacquer, textile dyeing, and bachiru.  I
=guess they don't consider origami an important cultural property...

Thanks! I just went to take a look. However, you've got a mistake in your URL.
Here's the correct one:

<http://www.kbch.isp.ntt.jp/topics/ningen-kokuhou/main_e.htm>

Well, at least this means I won't have to embarrass myself by trying to ask
Yoshizawa about this!

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 02:50:52 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: John Tobiasson's MORF FORMtm

On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, John Tobiasson wrote:

=Joseph Wu, I just read the enclosed business card protocal with interest.
=Yesterday I just sent some linked samples of my business card, postcard,
=fold-a-form, MORF FORMtm to you. tobi@centuryinter.net

Well, John probably meant to send this as a private message, but since I want
everyone to know what I want to say to him anyway, I'm replying in public,
too.

I received the John's folded forms in the mail today, and I must say that I'm
very impressed. When he first sent me the single card, I had no idea what to
do with it. Now that he's sent along the assembled versions of the cards, I
know exactly what he's getting at! This is a great modular piece, with fun
possibilities. The constructed objects can be manipulated into different
shapes, sort of like "Rubic's Magic Snake". Also, the geometry of it allows
some surprising variations in form. I don't really know how to describe it in
words. For more info, I'd suggest visiting John's web site, although he really
needs to get some more photos on there to show what this module can do.

Incidentally, the shape of the unit itself is much like something done by
Lazlo Moholy-Nagy (or perhaps one of his students) of the Bauhaus school of
design in the 1930's. There's a picture of one of the Bauhaus card folds that
is essentially the same as John's unit. You can see that at
<http://mahogany.lib.utexas.edu:1000/Exhibits/origami/math.html>, a page about
origami and math. That page is part of a site on origami by the library of the
University of Texas at Austin as part of their exhibit of origami at the
library. It's a beautiful site, the one that I wish I'd made! Check it out at
<http://mahogany.lib.utexas.edu:1000/Exhibits/origami/index.html>.

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 03:06:13 -0400 (AST)
From: Charles Knuffke <knuffke@sirius.com>
Subject: Origami Omnibus

Just a quick FYI to anyone who is looking for Origami Omnibus - The website
for Powell's Bookstore in Portland, OR shows that they have a used edition
in stock. Best place to get info is their website http://www.powells.com/

Regards,

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Charles Knuffke       "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"
153 Divisadero                                  -Jack Kerouac
San Francisco CA 94104
mailto://knuffke@sirius.com





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:26:42 -0400 (AST)
From: Gerard Blais <gblais@nortel.ca>
Subject: re:ORIGAMI-L digest 656

>Oops! Well, yes they're *all* difficult to fold with a 1-inch sheet!=20
>I meant 10-inch...

Phhheeewww! You scared me there for a second!.. :-)

The smallest I've been able to fold is the scorpion from a 15 cm foil.
I usually find paper is too "bouncy" for some of these folds.  It just
keeps opening up.  How do you people deal with those super thick parts?
Would wet folding help?

Gerard
Montreal, Canada





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:25:05 -0400 (AST)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Norminton's Daffodil or Takahama's Iris??

As a result of semi-recent correspondence spawned from origami-l
discussions, I have finally just gotten a copy of Toshie Takahama's
"Origami for Four Seasons".  My copy is copyrighted 1994 and has ISBN:
4-8377-0994-X.  I cannot find any "edition" or "printing" information
in English.

My question is: on page 122 of this book is a model identified in
English as "Iris".  The following page has diagrams for a stem/stand.
When I first flipped through the book I didn't pay any attention to
this model, but when I went back to really look at it, I noticed that
this seems to be a different set of diagrams for Norminton's Daffodil!
That's odd because I couldn't find his name anywhere.  I then went
looking to see if there wre ANY author's names that I could recognize
(i.e.  not written or transcribed into Japanese).  I didn't scour the
book, but in just flipping through, I found a puppy creditted to Edwin
Corrie (page 43).  Does anyone know if this was a case of simultaneous
discovery?  One other thing about the Takahama version of the model
strikes me as odd.  The book has both a drawing of the final model, and
a picture.  The drawing looks like Norminton's Daffodil.  The picture
is slightoly different, it doesn't seem to have the open center of the
Daffodil.

I might not have noticed if Norminton's Daffodil wasn't one of my all-time
favorite models!

Any info greatly appreciated!

-Doug





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:09:55 -0400 (AST)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Creasing tools...

Many thanks to everyone who responded to my query about precreasing tools!!

In reply to the question about the folder who used one of those tools
exclusively, Tom Hull wrote:
+ The person you're refering to is Paulo Barreto of Holland.  As far as
+ I know, he uses a fine-tipped metal point to make his precreases.  Chris
+ Palmer once gave me one of these things, and it works very well!  You
+ can literally "draw" your creases in the paper, provided the paper
+ isn't too thick.

Pat Slider wrote:
+I myself would recommend an embossing stylus for this. It is the size and
+weight of a pen or pencil with a metal ROUNDED point on each end. (The two
+ends have different size balled tips.) This tool is specifically designed to
+impress paper and not tear it.

What I had ended up using is an embossing stylus as Pat described.  I have
found them in Art supply stores (sometimes pricey, sometimes reasonable) as
well as in craft stores.  In one store, "Pat Catan's," it was a wooden dowel
with metal "tips" on thin rods inserted into each end of the dowel.  The staff
had no idea what I was looking for, even after I gave a detailed description.
I managed to find it, by wandering the store, in with some wood working tools.
I then went back and showed the clerk what it was, and she was surprised that
they had it and didn't know why it was were it was, or what it might be used
for! ;-)

I have acquired a few different sytlii but aside from how they feel in
my hands, I can't tell any difference in functionality.  Amusingly
enough, just by using them I have "sold" a few local folders on them.

Unlike Paulo Barreto, I don't use them to draw every crease.  I use a
metal straight edge and the stylus to draw in pesky diagonal creases,
esp. those in the Kawasaki Rose (the one on the FTP site). ;-)  As I
think I mentioned earlier, I consider this tool to be an efficiency
boost.  My personal definition of origami requires that I be able to
fold with just my hands, but having "proven" that I can do the Kawasaki
Rose that way, I have no reason to shun using the tools.  Your mileage may
(WILL!) vary!

Thanks again to everyone who replied!!

-Doug





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:27:58 -0400 (AST)
From: Pat Slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: RE: National Living Treasures

Browsing through the pictures of Paul Jackson's "Encyclopedia" (I FINALLY
cornered a used copy of this), I noticed that in the caption for Yoshizawa's
sheep, page 185, Jackson writes that Yoshizawa "is officially recognized as
a Japanese Living Treasure." So maybe someone should corner Paul Jackson on
this one?

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:31:32 -0400 (AST)
From: Maldon7929@aol.com
Subject: Re: Flower Tower

Hello,
I asked Chris if he wished to respond to this thread, and here it is.
>>>
In one of Eric Anderson's pages there is a picture of a model I like very
much, the "flower tower" by Chris Palmer.
Does anyone know how could  I get the diagrams (if they exist) of this model?
>>>
>>>
I remember Chris telling me that he was working on a book of his
models, but I don't know what the status of that is.  Anyone else know?
>>>
Chris is not working on "a book" for the forseeable future. There are two
main reasons for this. First diagraming is very time consuming and provides
relatively little return.   Second his folding methods are fairly complex and
don't readily lead themselfs  to diagraming. He is planning on making a video
this summer, but hasn't decided what will be included.

I'm sure many people on the list can attest to the first point. Based on the
few things I've had the pleasure of learning from Chris I can support the
second.

IMHO When the video comes out run, don't walk, to wherever it is available.
This man's work is awesome. Also, he is an incredible teacher. Watching him
fold will teach you far more than any daigram, regardless of the quality.

Joeseph Wu's web page has a link to Chris's web page.  There is a schematic
of the flower tower that shows the relationship of mountian to valley folds.
I find it preferable to the Paper's. Do a search for Chris Palmer.

Maldon Wilson

P.S. I'm sure if Chris was aware of how many freinds he has on this list he
would send you all his best. I'll do what I can to keep him involved.





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:19:35 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy Palmer-Lister <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re: folding sheets

At 04:04 PM 1997-03-07 -0400, you wrote:
>
>       I'm still behind in reading the origami digests, and apologize if
>someone has already responded to this topic.  Several people talked about not
>knowing how to fold fitted bedsheets.  This is how my mother taught
me...............................

                   Judith
>                           jfryer@lib.ursinus.edu
>

YES!  I think that's what my mon-in-law did!  Many thanks!

                                                                Cathy





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:14:12 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Chess

Marcus Ritter <mbgc6mtr@fs4.eng.man.ac.uk> sez

>Since I recently discovered the 64 piece cheesboard, I wondered, does
>anybody know about any chess pieces? i would be vey grateful.

The BOS did a booklet on the chess sets of Wall, Hulme & ELias, but it's
out of print. If there's enough demand, we could republish it....

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:06:44 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy Palmer-Lister <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re: Magic Star

At 12:26 AM 1997-03-14 -0400, you wrote:
>The directions for The Magic Star are indeed in one of Gay Merrill Gross'
>books, The Art of Origami. She credits the design to Robert Neale. It is
>one model that I love to do with kids. I am a school media specialist and
>over the years I have enjoyed teaching kids origami. Often kids who are
>not as successful academically as others, can shine with origami and
>become leaders and teachers. I'd love to hear from others who enjoy
>working with children.
>
>Belinda Holbrook
>Davenport, IA
>holbrook@netins.net

Hi, Belinda!

        I teach a fourth grade and often do origami with them.  I have also
observed how it is often the less gifted kids who do best at origami.

                                    Cathy





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:31:15 -0400 (AST)
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: 2nd International Meeting Otsu 1994.

If anyone is in touch with Japan I wonder if they could find out whether the
proceedings of the 2nd meeting on Origami Science and Scientific held in
Otsu in Nov.-Dec. 1994 , have been published. If they have not been
published, is it still the intention to publish? This was one of the most
important meetings ever held on Origami and it would be a tragedy if the
papers are not made available in one way or another,

John.
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:28:18 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Ring to Star model help??

Everybody,

Yes, last night I ID'd the Ring to Star model
as Robert Neale's design. I probably learned it
from either the Gray & Kasahara book or possibly
Tom Hull's book about Neale's designs (Origami
Plain & Simple), as it is that too. I probably
got it from the former, though, as I first learned
it quite awhile ago.

I sent the inquirer a quickie diagram I drew up from
memory, but I will email him again to tell him that
Robert Neale is the designer, and tell him the three
books in which diagrams appear. Since all three books
are still in print and/or readily available, I will also
ask that he not spread my diagram around, even though
I drew them from scratch, since they don't say who the
designer is.

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com
