




Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:14:53 -0400 (AST)
From: Robert Maldonado <robertma@csufresno.EDU>
Subject: Re: origami (?) sighting

On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Jeannine Mosely wrote:

>
> I just saw the movie "Big Night" yesterday.  It's an independent film,
[snip]
> fire at the tip.  As the object is consumed by flames it flies up in
> the air!  Does anyone know what this is, or how to make it?
>
>       -- Jeannine Mosely

If you have a big can of Italian amaretto cookies, the cookies come
wrapped in a tissue.  All you need to do is roll it into a tube and stand
it on its end and light.  As it burns down the air currents lift the ash
tube into the air.  I haven't done it in years (Can't afford those big
cans).  Maybe some other tissue would work, but I haven't tried it.  The
ash fibers would have to hold a little bit.

Robert Maldonado





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 05:42:51 -0400 (AST)
From: Holmes David EXC IS CH <holmes@chbs.ciba.COM>
Subject: RE: spiders

> Thank you!  I will pass it on to Dominique.  I am looking forward to
his Bab
> 5 display.
>
>

 Cathy

Are you talking about a display at the OUSA convention?  If so, could
someone *please* photograph it when they see it?

Dave

--
David M Holmes              |          Novartis, Inc.
david.holmes@bigfoot.com    |    holmes@chbs.ciba.com
----------------------------+------------------------
Dave's Origami - http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:03:46 -0400 (AST)
From: "S.W. Nelson" <sn5@earthlink.net>
Subject: Smallest 6 unit?

Does anyone know, if and what is the smallest
record "unit origami" made? (This should go to John Smith maybe?)

I love making super small units and have
a tiny bottle filled with the 6 unit pinwheel
cubes = 6centimeters,(53 cubes so far)
I have made- 4centimeters using tweezers and needle.
I've made other units too, super tiny.

Are they're any others here who enjoy this?

Rachael





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 11:51:11 -0400 (AST)
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Psychological profile # I don't know .

Just adding my two cents worth.  David Lister once wrote that what we folders
have in common is the ability to make linkages.   This translates to me as
the ability to join ideas together.  Someone once told me that     "Many
 people talk about things,
Many people talk about people
But only a few people enjoy talking about ideas. "
That is certainly how I operate and I have always made associations so fast
sometimes my head is spinning.   I find that many people in the origami world
that I have talked to share this same quality.  I do not have a good memory
but it has been pointed out to me that what I have is an associative memory
and I think that this has to do with making linkages too. Oh well, now I've
had my say too, as usual. I have puzzled for a long time what is the common
thread that we have that links us together.  This has been a most interesting
discussion.  Dorigami





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:05:03 -0400 (AST)
From: burleigh@hackberry.chem.niu.edu (Darin Burleigh)
Subject: Big Night; Hi!

I've been subscribed to this newsletter for months, but this got me going:

> Anyway, near the end of the movie, they're having a big, fancy dinner
> party, and there is a very brief scene where they have all folded
> something out of paper napkins or tissue paper which they light on
> fire at the tip.  As the object is consumed by flames it flies up in
> the air!  Does anyone know what this is, or how to make it?
>
>       -- Jeannine Mosely

"Big Night" is a wonderful movie for people who are *into* food. Is
this a common attribute among folders, or is just a Jeannine and myself?

This movie had a personal resonance with me, because I took
Home Economics-Cooking with co-star and co-directer Campbell Scott,
way back at John Jay Junior High School. The paper folding scene
clinched it.

This being my first contribution to the list, I will parse my
personality thus:

I got into origami as a youngster, my mom bought a very basic book,
(can't recall the name, almost square, pages made of cardboard)
which i still have. I get into periods where I fold everyday, then
put it down for a while. Its great therapy to relax with a cup of
herb tea and fold before bed. I usually practice a new model a few
times with 'junk mail'.

Other attributes: chemist : yes; juggling, left-handed, allergies,
dyslexia: no.

A good friend, who helped fold some models for my wedding, is not
a chemist, but is a juggler, and does have allergies. (maybe he's
left handed. can't remember).

I have yet to try wet-folding, but with our basement flooding these
days  this might be a good time to start.

-hasta la pasta,
darin burleigh
burleigh@hackberry.chem.niu.edu





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:35:40 -0400 (AST)
From: jfryer@lib.ursinus.edu
Subject: lurkers

Hi all,
        I'm a lurker (who is behind in reading my mail--sorry to drag up
an old topic) and would like to add my thoughts.

> Doug Phillips in reply to Linda Theil's comments about origami-l said:
>> I don't have the numbers, but it feels to me like
>> this list has a larger than usual lurker contingent.

and Lisa Hodsdon replied
> The list currently has 494 subscribers, and you have a pretty good idea
> of how many contribute (a guess: 100). I can't comment on whether this
> is a "larger than usual lurker contingent" but it *is* a lot of lurkers.

        I belong to a professional list (library instruction) that has more
than 1,000 members and a very large percentage of them are lurkers.  I think
any list devoted to serious information will have a lot of people who enjoy
"sitting at the feet of the gurus" to enrich their own understanding of the
subject.  Many have no new information to contribute and don't even know yet
what questions to ask.  Some feel ignored or put down because of bad luck in
the timing of their occasional post--it appears near the beginning of a long
intense thread on a different topic and is ignored, or it appears near the
end of the relevant thread a someone says let's get back to business.  I, for
one, engage in a fair amount of private responses because what I have to say
is not really relevant to the whole list.  My specialty is advising the poor
souls who apparently miss Marten's frequent instructions and plead with us
to take them off the list.

        Sorry, I didn't mean to get so serious or long winded.  I just meant
to say that lurkers are an important part of a serious list, and when they
feel comfortable they will contribute.  Some people are just more talkative
than others  :-)

                                 Judith

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                               Judith E. Fryer
                     Reference Librarian, Myrin Library
           Ursinus College, Box 1000   Collegeville PA  19426-1000
             (610) 409-3000 ext. 2302      jfryer@lib.ursinus.edu





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:47:00 -0400 (AST)
From: Kathleen Lloyd <klloyd@netside.com>
Subject: Re: PostScript EPS 3.0

At 09:54 PM 2/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>Some one gave me a EPS file with diagrams, but I couldn't print/view it.
>>The file is created via Corel Draw 6.0 and exported to a ADOBE A1
>>ILLUSTRATOR.EPS file version 3.0.
>>
>>Anybody who knows how to print this?

I've only just subscribed to the list, so I'm peeking out of my corner
where I had intended to lurk to offer info on an application to open the
EPS files, et al.

Serif Draw Plus will do the job very nicely and easily.  I have other
applications, but sometimes find they are too big and uncooperative!)  You
can download a 30 day trial version of Serif Draw at the URL below.  It
will open all sorts of files for you.  It isn't expensive, if you decide to
purchase the full version.  (I don't have any affiliation with the
company!!!!  All the usual disclaimers apply.)

Since this is my first post, I've no idea if this is a breach of list
rules.  If I've goofed, break it to me gently.  I frighten easily!!!

Kathie

http://www.serif.com





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:43:20 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: What kind of paper to use for wet folding?

Michael Greenberg <mlg@scr.siemens.com> sez

>What types of paper do you recommend for wet folding?

Check my article on wet-folding at the BOS web site....

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:08:33 -0400 (AST)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: Re: Psychological profile etc..

Dear Dorothy,

I'ver been meaning to write to you, but haven't managed to get round to it
until now.

You are collecting accounts from members of Origami-L about how they first
started paperfolding. I haven't replied to this myself, partly because I feel
I've already written more than my fair share to Origami-L.

However, you may remember that for FOLD 45 (September - Ocober 1992) I wrote
at immodest length about "My Early Recollections of Paperfolding". If you
still have this article, you have everything I can say about my own story!

I've just read you posting to Origami-L on Psychological Profiles. Again, in
view of the way the professionals of one sort or another have taken over this
topic, I intend to stear clear. I think it is importan, however.

However, you say that I once wrote that "what we folder shave in common is
the ability to make linkages".

I'm not at all sure that I said that. What I did say was that I personally
like to make linkages between ideas and facts in different subjects. I don't
believe that this is a characteristic of all paperfolders. Perhaps I will
send a short note to this effect to Origami-L.

But I'm so busy at present. I'm trying to cut down on the many topics in
which I have a finger. Otherwise nothing at all will get done!

I'm missing FOLD. Origami-L is just not the same. I hope that someone manages
to get us going again, but I feel that living over here, there's not much I
can do.

Love,

David.





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:27:44 -0400 (AST)
From: R Lacoursiere <rosie@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Subject: good origami websites

Hi! I was wondering if anyone could tell me about good sites about
origami. I'm a graphic design student, and a class assignment is to
research a topic using the internet as a resource. We then have to create
a bibliography so others can look at what we've compiled! Anyway, if
anyone knows of any cool sites, please let me know! Thanks!
Rosie





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:01:17 -0400 (AST)
From: Kathy Jeffers <kjeffers@animal.blarg.net>
Subject: Re: Psychological profile deja vu (fwd)

 Hi Folks,

I am new to the internet, new to this list, and new to origami.
So...please bear with me.

My sister is getting married at the Japanese Gardens at Cal State Long
Beach.  In keeping with the Japanese theme of the garden she would like to
have origami birds floating overhead.

Being her sister and her maid of honor, I volunteered to make the birds.
What was I thinking?  Anyway, I found a couple of diagrams for really easy
generic birds as well as a flapping bird (harder) and the crane (very hard
in comparison to the generic birds).

Does anyone know how I could get a diagram of a Dove?  And could a
beginner manage it?

Not many books in the local library about origami and the few that they
have don't include a Dove.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

               (__)
               (@@)
           -----\/     Kathy Jeffers
         /| ___ |      e-mail, kjeffers@blarg.net
        / ||   ||
          ^^   ^^      How now brown cow?
      _____________

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 14:52:27 -0400 (AST)
From: Pat Slider <slider@stonecutter.com>
Subject: Re: Psychological profile deja vu

Hey, I think this must be one of those annual topics!

I'm "somewhat ambidextrous" (right-handed, left-eye dominant), currently
MISERABLE with allergies, and I must humbly confess that I have an amazing
spatial sense. (I have a great reputation for scooping out just the right
amount of flour or beans from the bulk bins to fill the jars perfectly at
home. But I can't understand why I can't manage to win one of those "count
the jelly beans in the jar" contests :->!)

But really now, I think the chief personality trait behind my obsessive
folding is I seem to really enjoy handling paper. (And yarn too...but not
that nasty synthetic stuff!) It's a tactile thing, you know?

oh, and I never seem to get over the "That's from a single square?" sense of
awe. Still trying to figure out the big question: "How do they do that?"

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:54:36 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: music to fold by?

"S.W. Nelson" <sn5@earthlink.net> sez

>Can anyone fold _and listen to music at the same time???

The best way to fold! I prefer ambient or classical music - Debussy &
Delius are favourites

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
DART homepage   http://www.shef.ac.uk/uni/projects/oip/dart/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:19:42 -0400 (AST)
From: cmorris@geko.net.au (Carmel Morris)
Subject: Re: one standard....

addendum

Narn and *Minbari* religious icons rose to occasion in the last ep
season 2 B5. Any other race, just add wings.

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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:18:33 -0400 (AST)
From: cmorris@geko.net.au (Carmel Morris)
Subject: Re: one standard....

>As I recall Kosh, outside his suit, looked pretty much like a piece
>paper anyway.  And how are we supposed to know what the other races
>saw!  Any Narn folders out there?

Narn and Vorlon religious icons rose to occasion in the last ep
season 2 B5. Any other race, just add wings.
>
>I want to know how to fold the Star furys!

Variation of fold in Spacebusters (Scholastic)

Carmel

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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:37:54 -0400 (AST)
From: Jikko z <Jikkoz@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: origami web sites.

to all hello once again!

something I've been pondering.     ?!?!?!?!?!?!  8-/
Generaly....
A good web site is a site that contributs to the webs value.
------------------
....in relating to origami.....
In the circle of origami web sites, what makes the better ones better?
------------------
I'm not doing a survay or a research project, just an inquiring
thought...  ;^)

Is there a compiled list of origami sites?

thanx,
Keep on foldin'

Seamas





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:41:25 -0400 (AST)
From: "S.W. Nelson" <sn5@earthlink.net>
Subject: music to fold by?

Nick Robinson=
The best way to fold! I prefer ambient or classical music - Debussy &
Delius are favourites**

Ohh, I like Portishead, Classical, Chip Davis, Tori Amos..
Deep Forest I like it all, except American country.

Someone said he liked to listen to music while folding...
that he could come up with some interesting folds...I tried it
and forgot the music was playing, so I couldn't enjoy it!

Aren't you the wet fold paper person?
Hi!

Rachael





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:47:50 -0400 (AST)
From: cmorris@geko.net.au (Carmel Morris)
Subject: Re: music to fold by?

>Can anyone fold _and listen to music at the same time???
>
I love to crease out to Rachmaninov, Michael Nyman, Steve Hackett,
Gentle Giant, Triumvirat, They might be Giants, Mario Millo, Kansas,
Return to Forever, Steely Dan, Pink FLoyd, basically anything that's
not house music, oh and of course, the B5 soundtracks (both of them).

Carmel

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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:17:07 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: need advise

"S.W. Nelson" <sn5@earthlink.net> sez

>Can anyone tell me how to make my folds or creases
>stay down? Many times a finished piece looks too
>thick and doesn't retain it's shape.

Everyone has this problem & when using standard paper for complex folds,
it's inevitable. Some people adise a small hammer,  but I feel your
fingers & patience are the best tools. You can always try foil/tissue,
foil/paper or wet folding for exhibition pieces...

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
DART homepage   http://www.shef.ac.uk/uni/projects/oip/dart/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:23:48 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy Palmer-Lister <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: RE: spiders

At 05:44 AM 1997-02-27 -0400, you wrote:
>> Thank you!  I will pass it on to Dominique.  I am looking forward to
>his Bab
>> 5 display.
>>
>>
>
> Cathy
>
>Are you talking about a display at the OUSA convention?  If so, could
>someone *please* photograph it when they see it?
>
>Dave

Sorry to disappoint you, Dave, but the convention I meant was a sci-fi
convention we have in Montreal.  Some of us try to have a few origami models
of sci-fi and fantasy stuff on display.

                                                        Cathy





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:24:12 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy Palmer-Lister <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re: Smallest 6 unit?

At 10:04 AM 1997-02-27 -0400, you wrote:
>Does anyone know, if and what is the smallest
>record "unit origami" made? (This should go to John Smith maybe?)
>
>I love making super small units and have
>a tiny bottle filled with the 6 unit pinwheel
>cubes = 6centimeters,(53 cubes so far)
>I have made- 4centimeters using tweezers and needle.
>I've made other units too, super tiny.
>
>Are they're any others here who enjoy this?
>
>Rachael
>

Gerard Blais who is known to lurk on this list makes lovely miniatures.

                                Cathy





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:24:28 -0400 (AST)
From: Mike and Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Psychological profile deja vu (fwd)

Kathy Jeffers wrote:
> Does anyone know how I could get a diagram of a Dove?  And could a
> beginner manage it?

Here is a listing of books with dove diagrams.  The "level:" indicates
the difficulty.

S = simple
L = low intermediate
I = intermediate
H = high intermediate
C = complex
M = ???

There are 17 records matching dove

Result of search for dove

              Flapping dove                    Creator: Ligia Montoya
                 Lifestyle Origami, p. 54  By: Ansill
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into offset centr base.
                 level: I  #/steps: 9  Folds: petal,db r/e,

              Flying dove                      Creator: Akira Yoshizawa
                 Origami Museum I: Animals, p. 37  By: Yoshizawa
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into landmarking base.
                 level: L  #/steps: 9  Folds:

              dove                             Creator: Akira Yoshizawa
                 Origami Museum I: Animals, p. 48  By: Yoshizawa
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into bird base.
                 level: L  #/steps: 16  Folds: crim

              dove                             Creator: traditional
                 Origami, p. 40  By: Sakata
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into diagonal base.
                 level: M  #/ste

              dove                             Creator: Kunihiko
Kasahara
                 Origami Omnibus, p. 355  By: Kasahara
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into helmet base.
                 level: M  #/step

              dove                             Creator: Takuji Sugimura
                 Living Origami, p. 2  By: Sugimura
                 Begin w/ a 2:3  folding into waterbomb base.
                 level: L  #/steps: 12  Folds

              dove (I)                         Creator: Isao Honda
                 World Of Origami, p. 24  By: Honda
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into landmarking base.
                 level: S  #/steps: 6  Folds

              dove (II)                        Creator: Isao Honda
                 World Of Origami, p. 88  By: Honda
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into bird base.
                 level: L  #/steps: 13  Folds: crimp
                 This model requires cut

              dove of Peace                    Creator: Kunihiko
Kasahara
                 Origami Omnibus, p. 362  By: Kasahara
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into helmet base.
                 level: I  #/steps: 12  Folds

              Paloma Durmiendo [dove]          Creator: Carlos Corda
                 La Creacion en Papiroflexia, p. 104  By: Palacios
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into preliminary base.
                 level: I  #/steps: 10  Folds: petal

              Paloma en Vuelo [dove]           Creator: Carlos Corda
                 La Creacion en Papiroflexia, p. 81  By: Palacios
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into diagonal base.
                 level: L  #/steps: 9  Folds: rev,

              Paloma [dove]                    Creator: M.A. Palacios
                 La Creacion en Papiroflexia, p. 78  By: Palacios
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into diamond base.
                 level: L  #/steps: 10  Folds: re

              Taube [dove]                     Creator: Irmgard
Kneissler
                 Origami - Papierfalten, p. 46  By: Kneissler
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into landmarking base.
                 level: S  #/ste

              Tortola (dove)                   Creator: Adolfo Cerceda
                 Facinante Papiroflexia, p. 58  By: Palacios
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into diagonal base.
                 level: M  #/steps: 11+  Folds: cri

              Turteltaube [dove]               Creator: Irmgard
Kneissler
                 Origami - Papierfalten, p. 48  By: Kneissler
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into landmarking base.
                 level: M  #/steps: 7

              dove Cote (Birds in Birdhouse)   Creator: Neal Elias
                 Secrets of Origami, p. 198  By: Harbin
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into bird base.
                 level: H  #/steps: 12  Folds: petal,3-D,sink,loc

              Paloma (dove)                    Creator: traditional
                 Papiroflexia Basica, p. 38  By: Palacios
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into book base.
                 level: M  #/steps: 5  Folds: rev
                 This model works well with napkin p

--
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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:03:24 -0400 (AST)
From: Martha Mitchen <afolder@avana.net>
Subject: Re: origami in Atlanta??

vicky@infoarch.com wrote:
>
> origami in Atlanta??
> To origami-l@nstn.ca
>
> Hi all -
> I'm visiting Atlanta for business March 13 - 17, anyone on
> the list from there?  Any suggestions on places (origami
> related or not) to visit?
>
> Vicky Mihara Avery
>
> vicky@infoarch.comVicky,

Atlanta folders meet the 2nd Friday of each month, so will be meeting on
March 14th during your visit.  We meet at the Villa International at
1749 Clifton Road, NE.  People usually start arriving about 7:30 or 8:00
pm.  Meetings are informal.  Basically we just fold together.  Generally
anything anyone wants to share or from books we bring.  You are welcome
to stop by.

Unfortunately, there are no worth while origami related places I
can recommend unless you have access to a vehicle.  If so, you might
want to drive out to Conyers, a suburb of Atlanta, to see the T-rex
(and other origami) installed by Jonathan Baxter in the Nancy Guinn
library.  It's not the life size T-rex but at six feet tall its
pretty impressive.  See my message to list about the travelling T-rex's.

My favorite places in Atlanta are the Botanical Gardens and the Atlanta
History Center.  By the way, IMHO the Varsity is Indigestionville!





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:13:03 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: good origami websites; Re: origami web sites.

On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, R Lacoursiere wrote:

=Hi! I was wondering if anyone could tell me about good sites about
=origami. I'm a graphic design student, and a class assignment is to
=research a topic using the internet as a resource. We then have to create
=a bibliography so others can look at what we've compiled! Anyway, if
=anyone knows of any cool sites, please let me know! Thanks!
=Rosie

On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Jikko z wrote:

=to all hello once again!
=
=something I've been pondering.     ?!?!?!?!?!?!  8-/
=Generaly....
=A good web site is a site that contributs to the webs value.
=------------------
=....in relating to origami.....
=In the circle of origami web sites, what makes the better ones better?
=------------------
=I'm not doing a survay or a research project, just an inquiring
=thought...  ;^)
=
=Is there a compiled list of origami sites?

I maintain a more-or-less exhaustive list of origami sites on the Web (and a
few off the Web). You can access it via my page:

http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:25:34 -0400 (AST)
From: Martha Mitchen <afolder@avana.net>
Subject: Traveling T_rex's

Just wanted to give you all the latest info on the whereabouts of the
SEOFs two big T-rexs.

The young'un, as I call it, the six footer, is being installed at the
Nancy Guinn Library in Conyers, GA (a suburb of Atlanta) this weekend
along with a display of other origami.  It will be there for the month
of March as part of the festivities surrounding the Cherry Blossom
Festival which is the third weekend in March.  It's not the big guy, but
it's still impressive.  (In fact, its probably my favorite.)

The life size T-rex, will be installed in the Berkshire Science Museum
in Pittsfield, MA the last weekend in April, and will be there for about
three weeks.  It must be seen to be believed!





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:31:53 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: origami in Atlanta??

On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Martha Mitchen wrote:

=> I'm visiting Atlanta for business March 13 - 17, anyone on
=> the list from there?  Any suggestions on places (origami
=> related or not) to visit?
=>
=My favorite places in Atlanta are the Botanical Gardens and the Atlanta
=History Center.  By the way, IMHO the Varsity is Indigestionville!

There's also the paper museum where you can find out all about papermaking and
its history in America. There's a wing about the famous papermaker, Dard
Hunter. Of course, I don't have the address handy, but Yusri knows where it
is, I think. Yusri? 8)

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:57:58 -0400 (AST)
From: "S.W. Nelson" <sn5@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Smallest 6 unit

**Gerard Blais who is known to lurk on this list makes lovely miniatures.
Cathy**

I just finished a "simple sonobe"(by kasahara) 12 unit with
6 units of element#1(the pyramid).
The 12 unit is 8cm., with the added elements =15cm. total.
(if G.Blais is reading)

I tried to add element 2, but the slits are too small..
so I'll try foil paper for that element in the next piece.

I'm working from "Tomoko Fuse"..Unit origami for anyone
who wants to know (which is my favorite, today!!)

I need smaller tweezers,

Rachael





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:57:40 -0400 (AST)
From: "S.W. Nelson" <sn5@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: need advise to:Nick Robinson

**You can always try foil/tissue,
foil/paper or wet folding for exhibition pieces...**

Thanks! I've been practicing since I read your page..
neat what a little water will do! and a computer!

not in that order though..//`2`\\ (s)

Rachael





Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:10:20 -0400 (AST)
From: Alasdair Post-Quinn <alasdair@staff.feldberg.brandeis.edu>
Subject: Re: music to fold by?

At 07:48 PM 2/27/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>Can anyone fold _and listen to music at the same time???

yes. and i routinely do. altho being an avid clubber as well as a dj, i
listen to alot of techno and industrial. I do find, however, that ambient
(read: hearts of space, for the NPR fans among us) music is very soothing
for some folding.
I don't find music at all distracting -- I try to have some sort of music
in the background at all times.

peace,

               _                ______  ______          _
    i feel as | | much like i  / _____)(_____ \   did  (_) yesterday
        _____ | |       _____ ( (____ aint   \ \ _____  _   ____
       (____ || |      (____ | \____ \  _    | |(____ || | / ___)
       / ___ || |_____ / ___ | _____) )| |  / / / ___ || || | as i do
       \_____||_______)\_____|(______/ | | / /  \_____||_||_| today.
  alasdair@staff.feldberg.brandeis.edu | |/ /itus
     www.middlebury.edu/~acpquinn      |   /





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 08:59:32 -0400 (AST)
From: dbwalker@nilenet.COM (David Bruce Walker)
Subject: Re: psychological profile

I am also ambidextrous, i was born left handed, but had the misfortune of
attending catholic school from kindergarden thru college, my first thru 3rd
grade teachers,
 (who were nuns)(get flashbacks when i fold penguins)decided that being
lefthanded
must have been a sign of the devil so i was always placed next to the wall
or some other place where is was impossible or uncomfortable  to use my left
hand. i still stutter at times from this treatment. when we had penmanship
as it was called then I was taught to use my right hand. this treatment has
however come in handy as i am also a card and coin magician and can do coin
sleights with equal ease, and since my hands look the same when performing
certain moves, I can fool my fellow magicians that much easier.  maybe the
treatment i received from the nuns contributed to my jewish conversion. I
have had the pleasure of knowing many of the best and most creative
magicians in the world and many of them are left handed and very creative,
able to make a quantum leap from idea to practical reality. but then I have
also met many right handers who are just as creative.  I myself in terms of
magic (30 years) and origami
(seriously the past 10)am just a technician. i like doing hard stuff. I have
no special spatial ability as far as I am aware, so I guess it's like
everything else. special to the individual.





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:05:37 -0400 (AST)
From: Holmes David EXC IS CH <holmes@chbs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: music to fold by?

> Ohh, I like Portishead, Classical, Chip Davis, Tori Amos..
> Deep Forest I like it all, except American country.

My tastes in music are also wide ranging, but I agree with you about
American country bit. 8^)

> Someone said he liked to listen to music while folding...
> that he could come up with some interesting folds...I tried it
> and forgot the music was playing, so I couldn't enjoy it!

That would be me.  Sometimes if the paper starts to actually *resemble*
something, my attention does shift from the music as well.

> Rachael

Dave

--
David M Holmes              |          Novartis, Inc.
david.holmes@bigfoot.com    |    holmes@chbs.ciba.com
----------------------------+------------------------
Dave's Origami - http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:10:20 -0400 (AST)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: Re: Psychological profile etc..

Origami-L       Re:Psychological profile etc.       30th, February, 1997.

I must apologise to all members of Origami-L for sending to Origami-L,  a
private letter intended for Dorigami. I didn't realise until I downloaded my
E-mail this morning..

My own fault: I should have been more attentive. Put it doen to burning the
midnight oil.

David Lister





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:04:05 -0400 (AST)
From: Holmes David EXC IS CH <holmes@chbs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: one standard....

> >I want to know how to fold the Star furys!
>
> Variation of fold in Spacebusters (Scholastic)
>
> Carmel

Do you have the ISBN for it - I don't think it's been mentioned on the
list yet?

Dave

--
David M Holmes              |          Novartis, Inc.
david.holmes@bigfoot.com    |    holmes@chbs.ciba.com
----------------------------+------------------------
Dave's Origami - http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:11:53 -0400 (AST)
From: Alex Bateman <agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Spiral tesselations and more.

Hi There,
         I have just finished my latest page of origami creations.  All
the models were designed and folded in the last month These can be
accessed from my web page.

http://www.mrc-cpe.cam.ac.uk/jong/agb/origami.html

The page is image intensive, so I apologise if it is slow to load. I
hope that you can come and look.

Bye for now
Alex

--
- Alex Bateman
- MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
- agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
- Phone: (01223) 402479
- http://www.mrc-cpe.cam.ac.uk/jong/agb/origami.html





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:08:47 -0400 (AST)
From: Wayne Ko <Herman_Ko@mindlink.bc.CA>
Subject: Math Stuff

My colleague passed this on to me since it has to do with folding paper.
Anyways, the math people on the list may find it interesting.  This is a
problem from the Taiwanese *Math 8* government exam.  It is interesting to
note the difficulty in relation to the grade level.

A 4 cm by 2 cm rectangle is folded along its diagonal.  Find the area of the
region where the paper overlaps.

Wayne





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:07:09 -0400 (AST)
From: Holmes David EXC IS CH <holmes@chbs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: music to fold by?

> >Can anyone fold _and listen to music at the same time???
> >
> I love to crease out to Rachmaninov, Michael Nyman, Steve Hackett,
> Gentle Giant, Triumvirat, They might be Giants, Mario Millo, Kansas,
> Return to Forever, Steely Dan, Pink FLoyd, basically anything that's
> not house music, oh and of course, the B5 soundtracks (both of them).
>
> Carmel

Pink Floyd!!!  And the best track?  "Shine on you Crazy Diamond"
or "Echoes".

What is the second B5 soundtrack like?  I downloaded a few 30 sec.
soundbites but 30 sec. out of a 17 min. track doesn't really give
a good idea of what it's like.  Did you buy it direct from their
website?

Dave

--
David M Holmes              |          Novartis, Inc.
david.holmes@bigfoot.com    |    holmes@chbs.ciba.com
----------------------------+------------------------
Dave's Origami - http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:02:29 -0400 (AST)
From: preaux@univ-lyon1.fr (MARTIN Emmanuel)
Subject: Roberto, when you go in Lyon

Ciao Roberto

Please apologies if I haven't answer you before but my computer
has crash..:-(

You told me that you were coming in Lyon the 21th of March=20
is it still true?
Can we met at this occasion?
Do you want to visit Lyon with me as a guide or has a taxi driver?
Or perhaps you would like to eat local specialities?

Or perhaps learn me some fold?

I would be very happy to see you...

Cyrille Pr=E9aux





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:17:15 -0400 (AST)
From: richardd@redac.co.uk (Richard Davies)
Subject: Re: Math Stuff

> >A 4 cm by 2 cm rectangle is folded along its diagonal.  Find the area of the
> >region where the paper overlaps.
> >
> >
> >Wayne
> >
> I am not a math person, but I'm curious.  I suppose there is a trick to it?
> I have been combing my memory circuits for info on right angled triangles.
> We are talking about the triangle, and not the parallelogram you get when
> you unfold it?
>    Cathy

            .
           / \
          / x \
         /     \
        /       \
       /         \
______/___________\.
|    /\         ...|
|   /  \ A  ....   |
|  /    \...     ^ |
| / ....         | |
|/..             x |
--------------------

Figured I'd delurk after only 2 days on the list to offer something almost
off-topic!

I couldn't see a geometric shortcut either but if its the triangle formed in
the above ascii fold, the extra line A divides the triangle into 2 right-angled
triangles. The long diagonal is root(20)cm so A is root(20) x tan(30 degrees).
Multiply A by root(20) to get the area.

It helps a lot to visualise the problem (and therefore solve it) if you get
yourself a rectangle in the right proportions and fold it :)

Rich

Richard Davies                Tel:    01684  294161 (ext 328)
Software Engineer             Fax:    01684  299754
Zuken-Redac Ltd                E-Mail: richardd@redac.co.uk
Tewkesbury. UK                 Home:   richard@fionavar.demon.co.uk





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 17:01:28 -0400 (AST)
From: Steve Theil <theil@htonline.com>
Subject: Origami-L: Lurkers

Judith Fryer said: "I just meant to say that lurkers are an important part
of a serious list, and when they feel comfortable they will contribute."

Hi Judith,

The subject of "lurkers" came up recently on a private list I'm on about
the Shakespeare authorship controversy. I chimed in to say that I thought
that the epithet "lurker" was a notion whose time had passed. Do you call a
Wall Street Journal reader who doesn't write letters to the editor a
"lurker"? NO!

A charming fellow on that list called my analygy a "non sequitor supremo".
But I stand by it!

There's no such thing as a lurker; there are only people who read and
learn.

As opposed to those of us who read and write (too much, in my case).

Linda Theil
theil@htonline.com





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 17:01:06 -0400 (AST)
From: Steve Theil <theil@htonline.com>
Subject: Origami-L: re: Big Night; Hi!

Darin Burleigh said: "Big Night" is a wonderful movie for people who are
*into* food. Is this a common attribute among folders, or is just a
Jeannine and myself?"

Hi Darin,

I loved the way you expressed yourself in your "first" O-list post. I am
not left handed, nor dyslexic, nor do I juggle  . . . but, I AM a foodie
and several years ago the recipient of a $500 prize for creating the Best
Chocolate Cake in Michigan to prove it!

I have put amaretto cookies on my shopping list so we can light fires at a
family dinner on Sunday celebrating our 28th wedding anniversary.

Even if our basement is full of water,
Linda Theil
theil@htonline.com





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:35:55 -0400 (AST)
From: Kim Best <kim.best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Bedroom Origami

If you watched the "Tonight Show" with Jay Leno, last night, you would
have witnessed a sort of origami sighting.

Jay had "Lifestyle" expert Martha Stewart on the show. The origami came
when she was showing Jay how to make a bed.  When putting on the sheet,
she tucked the bottom end under the mattress, as usual.  But then she
folded the bottom corners up over the top of the mattress in sort of a
rabbits ear fold.  She then tucked in the edges.  And then folded the
rabbits ears under the mattress and tucked them in, creating two
triangular flaps at the bottom of the sheets.

Even Jay Leno caught it, exclaiming, "What is this?  Origami?"
--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:28:59 -0400 (AST)
From: halgall@netverk.com.ar
Subject: Mail 22 up 28 Feb.

Hi all,

I do not receive any mail in this week, please, if anyone save the messages,
send me them.
Thanks in advance.

Happy Folding!!!

Patricia Gallo
halgall@netverk.com.ar





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:45:31 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Review on two new Japanese titles?

I've not seen either book, but I know a little about the second one.

On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) wrote:

=Colored Origami Flower Boards
=
=Masako Tanaka [Origami House] $40.00

If you've seen the beautiful flower boards featured in each issue of Oru
magazine, you know what these are. Basically, imagine a Japanese brush
painting of flowers, but made from assembled origami pieces. Truly beautiful.

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 21:07:09 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: your mail

On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Brett Askinazi wrote:

=2)  the photo of Giunta's Insects.  I have the book "Origami Gli Insetti",
=but some of the insects in the picture are not in the book, namely the
=butterflies.  Also can someone tell me if the butterflies in the picture
=are actually folded with DUO color to get the color change, or were they
=folded with pre-patterned paper to get the desired effect.
=
=If you know anything that I didn't ask about either photo, please feel free
=to write your dissertation ;)

Dissertation? Who, me? 8) Anyway, Giunta's butterflies usually rely on using
duo paper to get the colour change. That particular butterfly was published in
one of the OrigamiUSA annual collections (I forget which one, don't have them
handy, and it's not in the OriIndex...I just looked).

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:33:39 -0400 (AST)
From: cmorris@geko.net.au (Carmel Morris)
Subject: RE: one standard....

>> >I want to know how to fold the Star furys!
>>
>> Variation of fold in Spacebusters (Scholastic)

>Do you have the ISBN for it - I don't think it's been mentioned on the
>list yet?

ISBN 0-590-22284-8

Carmel

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-----Carmel Morris - cmorris@geko.net.au-----
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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:40:10 -0400 (AST)
From: cmorris@geko.net.au (Carmel Morris)
Subject: RE: music to fold by?

>Pink Floyd!!!  And the best track?  "Shine on you Crazy Diamond"
>or "Echoes".

I like "Wish Your Were Here"

>What is the second B5 soundtrack like?  I downloaded a few 30 sec.
>soundbites but 30 sec. out of a 17 min. track doesn't really give
>a good idea of what it's like.  Did you buy it direct from their
>website?

Sounds pretty damn good. Got it from a friend here who got it from the
US. Puts me in a state of ataraxia at times. Now my brother has swiped
it and now I want it back!!

BCNU

Carmelnova

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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:05:58 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy Palmer-Lister <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re: Math Stuff

At 09:10 AM 1997-02-28 -0400, you wrote:
>My colleague passed this on to me since it has to do with folding paper.
>Anyways, the math people on the list may find it interesting.  This is a
>problem from the Taiwanese *Math 8* government exam.  It is interesting to
>note the difficulty in relation to the grade level.
>
>A 4 cm by 2 cm rectangle is folded along its diagonal.  Find the area of the
>region where the paper overlaps.
>
>
>Wayne
>
I am not a math person, but I'm curious.  I suppose there is a trick to it?
I have been combing my memory circuits for info on right angled triangles.
We are talking about the triangle, and not the parallelogram you get when
you unfold it?

                                                Cathy





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:26:49 -0400 (AST)
From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@ahand.unicamp.br>
Subject: Re: need advise (on permanent folds)

Hi,

Regarding the subject on how to make durable creases, I could
present my favorite low-tech technique. It is so simple probably
many have figured it out, but maybe it is worth explaining.

First, some excuses (WHY):
- While surely foil keeps creases forever, I still did not
  master the art of creasing foil without leaving those detracting
  unfolded cracked marks (I know, I could paint the white side and
  let it show in the finished model, but with apologies to
  M.LaFosse, Yoshizawa, Engel and many others, I hate spending time
  preparing paper - I wanna fold and shape :) )
- I am not used to artist's heavier paper for wet-folding, which
  as I understand means "moisten first, then fold"
- I prefer complex but lighter, smaller finished models anyway, and
  getting kami paper is easy.

WHAT:
So, instead of wet-folding kami or ordinary papers I
"wet-after-folded": just a few drops between thicker layers
(the inside of open-bellied animals is perfect, like along
the legs), then wrap the finished model in tissue paper and
let under a weight for a few hours.  If the model is removed
still slightly damp, it can be sculptured like in wet-folding,
with permanent results.
BUT:
Of course, many 3D models cannot be flattened under a weight,
so I apply the technique somewhat before finishing the model
while it is still flat. For extremely thick appendages
like Kawahata's Pegasus' front legs I wrap them in thick
cotton thread and wet later to avoid crooks.

THUS:
So we get wet-folding-like shapes which last, with (almost) no
risk of tearing or scraping the thin colored surface of fragile kami.

WHO:
Although I discovered it independently, I must remark that M.
Kirschenbaum (sorry if I mispelled) suggested something similar
for his $bill guitarrist. Only (if I remember well) the model
was to be *soaked* in water - which, while nice for currency,
for kami is The Wrong Thing to do :)

Sorry for the lengthy message and please flame - it is wet here :)

Carlos A. Furuti
www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti  furuti@ahand.unicamp.br





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:42:13 -0400 (AST)
From: Lisa.Hodsdon/McDougal/hmco@Owl.nstn.ca
Subject: Re: Math Stuff

***Spoiler Follows---No trig required****

At 09:10 AM 1997-02-28 -0400, Wayne Ko wrote:
>My colleague passed this on to me since it has to do with folding paper.
><snip>
>
>A 4 cm by 2 cm rectangle is folded along its diagonal.  Find the area of the
>region where the paper overlaps.
>
and Cathy Palmer-Lister replied:
<<I am not a math person, but I'm curious.  I suppose there is a trick to it?
I have been combing my memory circuits for info on right angled triangles.
We are talking about the triangle, and not the parallelogram you get when
you unfold it?>>

 There is some question in my mind whether the answer is the parallelogram
or the triangle, but here's how to find the area:

 I'm not going to draw diagrams. Sorry. I tend to be verbose
so don't let the length of what follows scare you off.

When you fold along the diagonal, you get 2 small triangles
that extend past the paper that overlaps. These are right
triangles. (One angle is a corner of the rectangle.) One
side of the triangle has length 2. (It is the same length
as the short edge of the rectangle.) The sum of the lengths
of the other two sides is 4. (This is trickier. The long side
of one triangle + the short side of the other is the long side
of the rectangle. The two small triangles are the same size,
so their sides are the same length.) Let the length of the
short side = n. The length of the long side + the length of
the short side = 4, So length of long side = 4 - n.

Now you can dust off the trusty Pythagorean theorem:

In a right triangle,
              (Note: n^2 is "n squared" or n multiplied by n)

  |\
  | \ c         a^2 + b^2 = c^2
b |  \          In our triangle, a = n, b = 2, and c = 4-n, so:
  |___\           n^2 + 2^2 = (4-n)^2
    a             n^2 +  4  = 16 - 8n + n^2  (remember FOIL?)

Subtract n^2 and 4 from both sides and you get:
                         0  = 12 - 8n
Add 8n to both sides ->  8n = 12
Divide both sides by 8 -> n = 1.5

Now, time to regroup.
We want to subtract the area of both small triangles from
the area of the rectangle to find the area involved in the
overlapping paper. This gives us the area of the parallelogram.
If we divide by 2, we get the area of the triangle.

Area of the rectangle - Area of 2 small triangles =
   height * width     - 2 * (1/2 * height * base) =
        4 * 2         - 2 * 0.5 * 2 * 1.5         =
          8           - 3                         = 5

The area of the parallelogram is 5 square units.
The area of the (2-layer) triangle is 2.5 square units.

See what comes of editing math textbooks???

Lisa
Lisa_hodsdon@hmco.com





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:45:29 -0400 (AST)
From: Brett Askinazi <brett@hagerhinge.com>

I was looking throughout that paper techniques encyclopedia (Jackson) at
the bookstore the other day, and saw some photos that sparked my interest
again.  Two really.

1)  the photo of David Mitchell's (?) PROTEUS module.  Does anyone know
where I can get the diagrams for this  ?

2)  the photo of Giunta's Insects.  I have the book "Origami Gli Insetti",
but some of the insects in the picture are not in the book, namely the
butterflies.  Also can someone tell me if the butterflies in the picture
are actually folded with DUO color to get the color change, or were they
folded with pre-patterned paper to get the desired effect.

If you know anything that I didn't ask about either photo, please feel free
to write your dissertation ;)

Brett
askinazi@i1.net





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:55:14 -0400 (AST)
From: Jean Villemaire <boyer@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: need advise (on permanent folds)

Carlos Alberto Furuti wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Regarding the subject on how to make durable creases, I could
> present my favorite low-tech technique. It is so simple probably
> many have figured it out, but maybe it is worth explaining.
>
> (...)
>
> Sorry for the lengthy message and please flame - it is wet here :)

Thank you for your very useful hints.  I like these kind of letters.  No chit
chat.  Just plain helping fingers.

Jean Villemaire
Montreal, Quebec





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:01:34 -0400 (AST)
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Re: origami in Atlanta??

Joseph Wu was pondering whether I know where the paper museum is:
>
> There's also the paper museum where you can find out all about papermaking and
> its history in America. There's a wing about the famous papermaker, Dard
> Hunter. Of course, I don't have the address handy, but Yusri knows where it
> is, I think. Yusri? 8)

Well, I have to say yes to that. The American Museum of Papermaking
or Robert C. Williams American Museum of Papermaking is located at IPST
(Institute of Paper Science and Technology)
   500 10th St. NW
   Atlanta, GA 30318-5794

The curator of the museum is Cindy Bowden - her number is 404-894-7840.
If you live too far from the museum (literally), you can take a virtual
tour of the museum at this URL:

        http://www.ipst.edu/amp/index.html

[Music to fold by]
I prefer Classical music particularly from Barogue period and Flamenco.

Later,
Yusri





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 13:09:26 -0400 (AST)
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@erols.com>
Subject: Review on two new Japanese titles?

Dear folders,

Could anyone give some review or comments on the following two titles
found
on Sasuga bookstore: http://world.std.com/~sasuga/neworigami.html

Joy of Origami

Kunihiko Kasahara [Futagisha] $39.50
In Japanese. For the beginning to intermediate paper-folder, this book
lets
you create everything from
dinosaurs to polyhedrons to penguins. Filled with close to 200 pages of
diagrams, this book shows you the
joy of origami.

Colored Origami Flower Boards

Masako Tanaka [Origami House] $40.00
In Japanese. Using multi-colored papers, Tanaka creates dozens of
vibrant
mounted flower designs.
Ranging from simple to complex, there are designs for all levels.

Thank you!

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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 13:54:36 -0400 (AST)
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Math Stuff

> This is a
> problem from the Taiwanese *Math 8* government exam.  It is interesting to
> note the difficulty in relation to the grade level.
>
What grade level is a Math 8 government exam? Is it an 8th grade exam?

--
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon_ackerman@fc1.nycenet.edu





Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:55:09 -0400 (AST)
From: Brett Askinazi <brett@hagerhinge.com>
Subject: Re: Tolkien & Origami (was Re: one standard....)

Fiery, shadowy, wings, tail (of the devil style), fangs, holding a cat 0'
nine tails that was ablaze.  The artists renditions that I have seen have
been similiar to a classic demon/devil only more muscular.

>
> Hmm....I've thought about it, what with my mythology bent and all, but
have
> you ever seen a good description of one?
>

Brett
askinazi@i1.net
