




Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 04:39:45 -0400 (AST)
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Superior beings

----------
From:   Kenny1414@aol.com[SMTP:Kenny1414@aol.com]
Sent:   Sunday, 23 February 1997 08:42
To:     Multiple recipients of list
Subject:        Re: Superior beings

A little more detail on the "Slan" for non-readers of older science
fiction:
(this is from memory, so I may have details wrong.)

In A.E. Van Vogt's book, "Slan", the Slan were a human mutation, gifted
with
extra strength, intelligence, and telepathy, but marked by little
"tendrils"
on their heads, and had been driven into hiding by the normal human's
campaign to exterminate the Slan.

To continue just a little before we get back to origami... Slans also had
double hearts. The tendrils were bread out and the double heart also for a
few generations until the true slans could be accepted once again. So the
'snakes' (what the true slans were called) were actually hiding out among
their enemies the 'modified' slans - all very confusing but it works and is
a good read.

..Now back to paper folding...

Laurie Bisman
lbisman@sirranet.co.nz





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 04:46:11 -0400 (AST)
From: Jikko z <Jikkoz@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: enterprise ship folding

I've been trying to fold the Star Ship Enterprise.
I found the diagrams on how to, at:
ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/models.bin/.menu.html
by Marc Kirschenbaum.
I hit problems at step 35 on page three, then I'm lost after that.
Any one have a clue what I am saying?     :^)

Well considering that I am a right handed, I tried to use my left hand
more.  Tried sneezing on the paper.  Writing numbers on it.  Even
thinking in 3D.  Ho - Ha ! no strange acts as these (trying to fit that
origami profile) would work.

Anyone with a suggestion?  ;-]

-----------

My humble thanx to all

Seamas O'Brien





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 06:33:43 -0400 (AST)
From: Holmes David EXC IS CH <holmes@chbs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: one standard....

> >>One standard to rule them all, one standard to find them,
> >>One standard to bring them all, and in darkness bind them.
> >>In the land of Microsoft, where Shadows lie.
>
> Shadows? EEK!
>
> Does Microsoft have an office on Z'ha'dum?

Cool!  Someone else who watches the *best* SF show ever - Babylon 5

Dave

--
David M Holmes              |          Novartis, Inc.
david.holmes@bigfoot.com    |    holmes@chbs.ciba.com
----------------------------+------------------------
Dave's Origami - http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 10:35:08 -0400 (AST)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: one standard....

david.holmes@bigfoot.com wrote:
+> >>One standard to rule them all, one standard to find them,
+> >>One standard to bring them all, and in darkness bind them.
+> >>In the land of Microsoft, where Shadows lie.
+>
+> Shadows? EEK!
+>
+> Does Microsoft have an office on Z'ha'dum?
+
+Cool!  Someone else who watches the *best* SF show ever - Babylon 5

Yep, B5 is great.  But the original quote is a parody from JRR Tolkien's Lord
Of The Rings (or maybe The Hobbit, hmmm, guess its time for the next
re-reading)!

ObOrigami:  Has anyone designed a model of a Ballrog?

-Doug





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:10:42 -0400 (AST)
From: Kevin Kinney <kkinney@med.unc.edu>
Subject: Sighting

Time for another origami sighting!
(at least I can contribute someting again now)

Saw this Saturday afternoon, I think:

Commercial in the U.S. for Hershey's Nuggets chocolate candy.  The
commercial involved the foil wrapper coming off the candy and folding
itself into a peacock, a brontosaurus (or something:  yes, Jerry Harris
and others, I know the current term is Apatosaurus, but I couldn't verify
if the head was right), and finally a frog.

Folding was very rapid, but seemed reasonable.  Anyone want to claim
credit for them?  Anyone know if the frog is do-able?  It was different
from any that I do.

Kevin
kkinney@med.unc.edu
(who, for the belated record, is left-handed, not dyslexic or allergic,
and measures off the scale on spatial ability-but in the *other* direction!)





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:33:26 -0400 (AST)
From: Joshua Kronengold <mneme@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Origamic Depression

Matthias Gutfeldt writes:
>Thanks, Joshua Kronengold!
>
>I was already having severe self-esteem problems because I am
>not allergic to most things and most certainly don`t know
>much about math...
>You just saved me from Origamic Depression ;-).
<laugh>  Glad to be of service! :)

Oh, now that I've gotten the scoffing out of the way, I'm a folder,
easily in the 99th percentile, allergic (though not violently, and I
used to be more) to many things, and dislexic (specifically, the
variety where you have problems mostly writing, rather than reading,
knowng as disgraphia).
        I also appear to be one of the few people in my immediate
circle who doesn't need glasses.

--
mneme@dorsai.org        Josh Kronengold                     |\      _,,,--,,_
     ,)
  ^     "Unix is easy.  Just like a cross between /,`.-'`'   -,  ;-;;'
 /\\     English and Welsh.  Except that you have to   |,4-  ) )-,_ ) /\
/-\\\    take out all the vowels"  -- Me        '---''(_/--' (_/-'





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:56:23 -0400 (AST)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Sighting

>Commercial in the U.S. for Hershey's Nuggets chocolate candy.  The
>commercial involved the foil wrapper coming off the candy and folding
>itself into a peacock, a brontosaurus (or something:  yes, Jerry Harris
>and others, I know the current term is Apatosaurus, but I couldn't verify
>if the head was right)

        Oh, like I'm going to be all critical and proselytory _just_
because some people still use the word "Brontosaurus!"  Just what kind of a
stuck-up, anal, nit-picky kind of paleontologist do you think I am that I
would lecture people that no, the correct nomen is _Apatosaurus_, because
"Brontosaurus," named _after_ _Apatosaurus_ was later discovered to be the
same kind of animal???  Would _I_ ever do something like that?!??
_Moi_??????  _When_ have I _ever_?!??!???  (jaw dropped in flabbergasted
astonishment).

        ;-D

        Haven't seen this commercial yet -- hey, now I've got an excuse to
avoid homework in order to watch TV!  ;-D

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  768-2701
Southern Methodist University
Box 750395                            jdharris@post.smu.edu
Dallas  TX  75275-0395                (Compuserve:  102354,2222)

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                                         ____/_  )_----'_\__
                                 ____----____/ / _--^-_   _ \_
                         ____----_o _----     ( (      ) ( \  \
                       _-_-- \ _/  -          ) '      / )  )  \
"Evolution: It's      _-_/   / /   /          /  '     /_/   /   \
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Body!"              /(__--    /    '-_     /    \ \  / /    )  (\_)
                   /    o   (        '----'  __/  \_/ (____/   \
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                         VVVVVVVVV                   \_/  ___  '^-'___
                                           _________------   --='== . \
                     AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA--- .      o          -o---'  /





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:32:13 -0400 (AST)
From: Holmes David EXC IS CH <holmes@chbs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: one standard....

Doug Philips wrote:
> david.holmes@bigfoot.com wrote:
> +> >>One standard to rule them all, one standard to find them,
> +> >>One standard to bring them all, and in darkness bind them.
> +> >>In the land of Microsoft, where Shadows lie.
> +>
> +> Shadows? EEK!
> +>
> +> Does Microsoft have an office on Z'ha'dum?
> +
> +Cool!  Someone else who watches the *best* SF show ever - Babylon 5
>
> Yep, B5 is great.  But the original quote is a parody from JRR
Tolkien's Lord
> Of The Rings (or maybe The Hobbit, hmmm, guess its time for the next
> re-reading)!

Yes, I *do* know this! 8^)  It's also been suggested that J. Michael
Straczynski based the major arc storyline on "Lord of the Rings", but
these are just rumours.

Dave

--
David M Holmes              |          Novartis, Inc.
david.holmes@bigfoot.com    |    holmes@chbs.ciba.com
----------------------------+------------------------
Dave's Origami - http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:23:36 -0400 (AST)
From: jtweres@lucent.com
Subject: origami sighting: hershey's nugget tv commercial

has anyone else seen the new hershey's nugget tv commerical???

we were fast-forwarding through commercials
when "something" caught my eye
-- i asked my wife
   to stop and rewind a little

the commercial uses the hershey's nugget gold wrapper
and it folds itself
into a peacock, a dinosaur and a couple of other things
that i can't remember right now
(that was thursday
 and between then and now
 we've been cleaning up a flooded basement)

it was really interesting to see this
since i have on occasion folded cranes from this wrapper

  /-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-///plieur de papier\\\-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\
 /=-= jack thomas weres                         jtweres@lucent.com =-=\
/=======================\\\================///=========================\
"Let Go and Let Fold"                             "One Crease At A Time"





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:21:16 -0400 (AST)
From: mplewinska@earthlink.net (Magdalena Cano Plewinska)
Subject: Re: Origami-L: re Psychological profile

On Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:45:29 -0400 (AST),
Lisa.Hodsdon/McDougal/hmco@owl.nstn.ca  wrote:

>Hey lurkers! How you doing out there?

Female, not dyslexic, somewhat allergic, crossed dominant, BA in math.
Geneticist in current life.

   - Magda Plewinska
     Miami, FL, USA
     Email: mplewinska@earthlink.net





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:23:05 -0400 (AST)
From: limblab@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Valerie Ngo-Muller)
Subject: Yoshizawa's masterwork

Hello everybody,

I have the book of Akira Yoshizawa's masterwork, but unfortunately I don't
read japanese (though it is not necessary for the understanding of the
diagrams). I would like to know if anybody would have the translation (in
english, or in french, as I was able to see that Joseph Wu reads french
fluently) - I am french, but I can read english - so that I can understand
all the details of the book.

Thanks!

Val=E9rie

Valerie Ngo-Muller, Ph. D.
Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology
Tulane University
2000 Percival Stern Hall
New Orleans, LA 70118-5698   USA

Ph. (504) 862-3163
=46ax (504) 865-6785





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:22:45 -0400 (AST)
From: mplewinska@earthlink.net (Magdalena Cano Plewinska)
Subject: Re: Alien hand

On Sat, 22 Feb 1997 00:34:51 -0400 (AST), Joseph Wu
<origami@planet.datt.co.jp>  wrote:

> There
>are also wood-block prints in Japan of armless people doing origami with their
>feet.

You have to do that once you get to a certain age and are too vain to
get bifocals :).

   - Magda Plewinska
     Miami, FL, USA
     Email: mplewinska@earthlink.net





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:24:17 -0400 (AST)
From: Contractors Exchange <contract@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: enterprise ship folding

At 04:46 AM 2/24/97 -0400, Jikko z <Jikkoz@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>I've been trying to fold the Star Ship Enterprise.
>I found the diagrams on how to, at:
>ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/models.bin/.menu.html
>by Marc Kirschenbaum.
>I hit problems at step 35 on page three, then I'm lost after that.
>Any one have a clue what I am saying?     :^)

It looks like a rabbit ear fold, using the creases from some of the
previous steps.

>
>Well considering that I am a right handed, I tried to use my left hand
>more.  Tried sneezing on the paper.  Writing numbers on it.  Even
>thinking in 3D.  Ho - Ha ! no strange acts as these (trying to fit that
>origami profile) would work.
>

I guess this is part of another thread, but I am right handed (with a lot
of left had functionality), and minor case of allergies. Not dyslexic, but
I have lousy math computational ablities (trouble with adding, multiplying,
ect.). I do excel with reading, spatial, and reasoning abilities. Despite
all of these obstacles, I have managed to design origami models (I wonder
how I would be if I did fit the origami designer stereotype?).

>Anyone with a suggestion?  ;-]

If you got that far into those diagrams, you must be a good folder. Jeremy
Shafer has a model of that ship at about the same difficulty level, but
with much better diagrams. You can order them from his website (sorry, I do
not have the URL off-hand).

Marc





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:24:04 -0400 (AST)
From: Mark Gilchrist <mark@gilchrist.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: one standard....

Warning.....this has little to do with Origami, but my Mum says its polite
to answer letters!

>david.holmes@bigfoot.com wrote:
>+> >>One standard to rule them all, one standard to find them,
>+> >>One standard to bring them all, and in darkness bind them.
>+> >>In the land of Microsoft, where Shadows lie.
>+>
>+> Shadows? EEK!
>+>
>+> Does Microsoft have an office on Z'ha'dum?
>+> >>One standard to rule them all, one standard to find them,
> >>One standard to bring them all, and in darkness bind them.
> >>In the land of Microsoft, where Shadows lie.
>
> Shadows? EEK!
>
> Does Microsoft have an office on Z'ha'dum?

Where do you think B.G has his office?

>+Cool!  Someone else who watches the *best* SF show ever - Babylon 5
>
>Yep, B5 is great.  But the original quote is a parody from JRR Tolkien's Lord
>Of The Rings (or maybe The Hobbit, hmmm, guess its time for the next
>re-reading)!
>
>
>ObOrigami:  Has anyone designed a model of a Ballrog?
>
>
>-Doug

Do you read any of the B5 Newsgroups?  I haven't seen you there...or are
you a Lurker?

Catchya on the Flip side

SORRY...... first Anime, now B5.  Don't chuck me off the list.  Please.
Mark lfolding.  Thy say teach me something.  Ifold.  Creasing, I am good
at.  Closed sinking, not good.  At least there is symmetry.

For those that don't watch B5 get rid of your "life " and start watching
it.  ;-)))))

Back on topic....where can I get wallpaper from that folds well.  I need a
big piece because I'm trying to fimportant feature "five miles long, all
alone in the night"!

No....I will not explain it!

Anyway....here's that shamelessy leached tagline again....

Mark

One standard to rule them all, one standard to find them,
One standard to bring them all, and in darkness bind them.
In the land of Microsoft, where Shadows lie.





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:08:28 -0400 (AST)
From: Peter and Mary Ansoff <Peter_Ansoff@compuserve.com>
Subject: enterprise ship folding

>I've been trying to fold the Star Ship Enterprise.
>I found the diagrams on how to, at:
>ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/models.bin/.menu.html
>by Marc Kirschenbaum.
>I hit problems at step 35 on page three, then I'm lost after that.
>Any one have a clue what I am saying?     :^)

Seamas,  that sequence tripped me up for a while too.  The key is that you
rotate the model 180 degrees between step 36 and step 37.  The "ears" that
stick out from the top in 36 are at the *bottom* of the picture in 37.
Once I worked out the sequence, I found myself jumping directly from 36 to
38; the intermediate fold just sort of happens.

I have yet to produce a really good version of the ENTERPRISE, but I'm
getting better all the time.

Peter Ansoff
peter_ansoff@compuserve.com





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:51:43 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy Palmer-Lister <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: RE: one standard....

At 06:34 AM 1997-02-24 -0400, you wrote:
>> >>One standard to rule them all, one standard to find them,
>> >>One standard to bring them all, and in darkness bind them.
>> >>In the land of Microsoft, where Shadows lie.
>>
>> Shadows? EEK!
>>
>> Does Microsoft have an office on Z'ha'dum?
>
>Cool!  Someone else who watches the *best* SF show ever - Babylon 5
>
>Dave
>
>--
>David M Holmes              |          Novartis, Inc.
>david.holmes@bigfoot.com    |    holmes@chbs.ciba.com
>----------------------------+------------------------
>Dave's Origami - http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/
>

Hi, Dave!  I have a friend who's been looking for origami spider designs.
Are you wondering why??In Montreal B5 reigns supreme!

                    Cathy





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:51:25 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Tolkien & Origami (was Re: one standard....)

On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Doug Philips wrote:

=Yep, B5 is great.  But the original quote is a parody from JRR Tolkien's Lord
=Of The Rings (or maybe The Hobbit, hmmm, guess its time for the next
=re-reading)!

The quote first appears in the Hobbit and is fleshed out in The Lord of the
Rings. Here's the relavent portion (from memory...forgive me if I get it
wrong):

One ring to ???? them all, one ring to find them.
One ring to rule them all, and one ring to bind them.
In the land of Mordor where shadows lie.

=ObOrigami:  Has anyone designed a model of a Ballrog?

Hmm....I've thought about it, what with my mythology bent and all, but have
you ever seen a good description of one?

Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU paint.
There's More Than One Way To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
                                           --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:47:12 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy Palmer-Lister <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re: paper airplanes

At 10:18 PM 1997-02-23 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>I've never seen Spacebusters or Skybusters in the US.  Are they still
>>available?  Who is the publisher?
>
>Scholastic have taken Skybusters which is more your cut-out gliders.
>Not sure if they have taken Spacebusters (origami spaceships). I tried
>to contact them direct lately and it's been difficult to say the least.
>US publishers are so fickle!
>
>Carmel
>
>
>
>---------------------------------------------
>-----Carmel Morris - cmorris@geko.net.au-----
>-------http://www.geko.net.au/~cmorris-------
>----PO Box 881, North Turramurra NSW 2076----
>---------------------------------------------
>             __
>            /  \-<              _|
>            ====              _|
>            |o o\---{       _|
>            |o o \        _|
>            |o o o\     _|
>           {********} _|
>---------------------------------------------
>
>

Hi, Carmel!  Both books were sold as a set by Scholastic in Canada, but I'm
not sure when I got them.  It was at least two years ago. I think.

                                                                Cathy





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:11:27 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Yoshizawa's masterwork

On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Valerie Ngo-Muller wrote:

=I have the book of Akira Yoshizawa's masterwork, but unfortunately I don't
=read japanese (though it is not necessary for the understanding of the
=diagrams). I would like to know if anybody would have the translation (in
=english, or in french, as I was able to see that Joseph Wu reads french
=fluently) - I am french, but I can read english - so that I can understand
=all the details of the book.

Thanks to one of my co-workers (hi, Kondo-san!), I've got the translation to
Yoshizawa's concluding remarks from that book. I've put it on my Origami Page.
It's a bit hard to find, as I have put it with his photo in the Photo Gallery.
The translation of his biography will follow, as soon as I finish editing and
after I get confirmation on a few points. Read French fluently? Hardly. I have
to guess on many words, although I usually get the meaning of the passage.
Don't ask me to speak, though!

Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU paint.
There's More Than One Way To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
                                           --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:14:02 -0400 (AST)
From: cmorris@geko.net.au (Carmel Morris)
Subject: Re: paper airplanes

>Hi, Carmel!  Both books were sold as a set by Scholastic in Canada, but I'm
>not sure when I got them.  It was at least two years ago. I think.
>
>                                                                Cathy

Gee, my royalties were pretty slim though I'm told I'll be getting a good
one soon.

On the matter of royalties, anyone out there happy with theirs and/or
publishers?

C.

---------------------------------------------
-----Carmel Morris - cmorris@geko.net.au-----
-------http://www.geko.net.au/~cmorris-------
----PO Box 881, North Turramurra NSW 2076----
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            ====              _|
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:17:57 -0400 (AST)
From: tabitha@bws.bws.com (tabitha c. whiteside)
Subject: BARF

Hi all, just wondering...I've been hearing about it a bunch, what is BARF?
I think the 'F' stands for folders, but what's the rest?

-Tabitha





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:36:54 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: BARF

On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, tabitha c. whiteside wrote:

=Hi all, just wondering...I've been hearing about it a bunch, what is BARF?
=I think the 'F' stands for folders, but what's the rest?

Bay Area Rapid Folders, a play on the Bay Area Rapid Transit.

Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU paint.
There's More Than One Way To Do It. Have the appropriate amount of fun.
                                           --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:00:15 -0400 (AST)
From: Charles Knuffke <Knuffke@Sirius.com>
Subject: Re: BARF

tabitha c. whiteside wrote:
>
> Hi all, just wondering...I've been hearing about it a bunch, what is BARF?
> I think the 'F' stands for folders, but what's the rest?
>
> -Tabitha

Hello Tabitha:

BARF stands for the Bay Area Rapid Folders. This is an Origami group
that was founded several years ago for San Francisco area paperfolders.
The group is headed up by Jeremy Shafer, who is editor-in-chief (and the
groups defacto big cheese) for the quarterly newsletter. The newsletters
are very impressive, averaging about 28 pages of simple to complex
origami models.

If you're interested in BARF take a look at either the "Origami Groups"
link on the PCOC website (address below), or Jeremy's site at
http://www.krmusic.com/barf.htm

Also, Jeremy's added some of the essays he's written to his site - check
out the one called "Origami Purity" for some insite into Jeremy's
origami and vegitarian beliefs.

Regards,

--
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Charles Knuffke       "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"
153 Divisadero                                  -Jack Kerouac
San Francisco CA 94104
mailto://knuffke@sirius.com
http://www.sirius.com/~knuffke/PCOC.html





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:59:52 -0400 (AST)
From: Alasdair Post-Quinn <alasdair@staff.feldberg.brandeis.edu>
Subject: Re: BARF

At 09:18 PM 2/24/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi all, just wondering...I've been hearing about it a bunch, what is BARF?
>I think the 'F' stands for folders, but what's the rest?
>
>-Tabitha

That would be the Bay Area Rapid Folders -- a group in California run by
the notable young origami illuminatus Jeremy Shafer (with Chris Palmer
closely in tow). Their newsletters are great resources for new complex
designs, and are mailed all over the place. I live in Vermont and I get
them. I don't have one on hand now, but they cost $15 for a year's
subscription (4 issues), I think. Maybe someone else has more info?

peace,
               _                ______  ______          _
    i feel as | | much like i  / _____)(_____ \   did  (_) yesterday
        _____ | |       _____ ( (____ aint   \ \ _____  _   ____
       (____ || |      (____ | \____ \  _    | |(____ || | / ___)
       / ___ || |_____ / ___ | _____) )| |  / / / ___ || || | as i do
       \_____||_______)\_____|(______/ | | / /  \_____||_||_| today.
  alasdair@staff.feldberg.brandeis.edu | |/ /itus
     www.middlebury.edu/~acpquinn      |   /





Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:56:02 -0400 (AST)
From: cmorris@geko.net.au (Carmel Morris)
Subject: RE: one standard....

>> Shadows? EEK!
>>
>> Does Microsoft have an office on Z'ha'dum?
>
>Cool!  Someone else who watches the *best* SF show ever - Babylon 5
>

*Cool!* DITTO!

check my site and you'll see I've been there...

Carmelnova - creator of the origami pouchling.

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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:10:13 -0400 (AST)
From: cmorris@geko.net.au (Carmel Morris)
Subject: Re: one standard....

>Yep, B5 is great.  But the original quote is a parody from JRR Tolkien's Lord
>Of The Rings (or maybe The Hobbit, hmmm, guess its time for the next
>re-reading)!

Lord of the Rings, actually. Many old themes are recycled into modern SF
and B5 uses them. I like their Prisoner references, especially when Bester
says "Be Seeing You" with the finger and thumb leaving his forehead, not his
eye (Being Psi Corps). I met Harlan Ellison last year (He's the conceptual
consultant for B5) and I asked him to incorporate some origami into a future
episode. Also Michael Ohare (Sinclair) is visiting here soon so I'll be
showing him how to fold a Star Fury.

BCNU

Carmel

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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:14:26 -0400 (AST)
From: cmorris@geko.net.au (Carmel Morris)
Subject: Re: BARF

>Hi all, just wondering...I've been hearing about it a bunch, what is BARF?
>I think the 'F' stands for folders, but what's the rest?

Something Homer Simpson and Barney do a lot of.

C.

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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:36:30 -0400 (AST)
From: Mark Morden <marmonk@eskimo.com>
Subject: Origami-IST Sighting

I was in Phoenix last week on a few days vacation with my son.  Saturday
afternoon we had a few hours to kill before heading to the airport.  We
decided to vist the small historic district east of downtown and look at the
old buildings.  It happened that there was a weekend Japanese arts festival
at the same site.  Wandering around we found two origami booths.  At the
first a couple was selling boxes and other ornamental compositions.  The
other booth was staffed with members of the local folding club and they were
showing kids and others how to fold some simple models.  The main instructor
was none other than Michael LaFosse.  I had never met him before but
recognized him from his web page.  He had a few models on display, most
notably was an very realistic looking garden slug.  Michael explained that
he is currently an artist in residence at the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum
in Tucson.  He is studying and preparing to interpret Sonoran desert plants
and animals for an exhibit that will be displayed in the museum next year.
We chatted for a while and exchanged models before my son and I had to head
for the airport.  It was great to meet him, especially in such a
happenstance manner.  He said that he hopes to have a new video out at the
end of March that will include paper making and how to fold one of his frogs.

Mark

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the Sun
has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it
I see everything else.
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:35:52 -0400 (AST)
From: Ronnie White <ronew@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: origami in Atlanta??

>Hi all -
>I'm visiting Atlanta for business March 13 - 17, anyone on
>the list from there?  Any suggestions on places (origami
>related or not) to visit?
>
>Vicky Mihara Avery

Hi Vicky,
  I don't know any origami related sites in Atlanta, but there are several
sights to see while in Atlanta. You must go eat at "The Varsity", it's the
worlds largest drive-in. Atlanta is the world headquarters for Coca-Cola.
There is a coke museum in Atlanta that is great and a must see for any
visitor. Hope you have a good time in Atlanta.

Ron White
ronew@mindspring.com





Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:00:59 -0400 (AST)
From: Marcia Mau <marcia.mau@pressroom.com>
Subject: DC Origami Events

This Saturday, March 1st, is the Japan Bowl, an academic and language
competition.  If you're interested in folding w/ up to 400 high school
students from 10 states, please let me know.  I need to let the Japan
America Society know how many of us will be there for lunch.  Folding is
from 10AM to 12Noon at the Westin Hotel, 1400 M StNW, DC.  After the
competition, about 4PM, there is usually a sushi reception.

On Tuesday, March 4, Meade Pimsler will teach three sessions of origami at
the Martin Luther King Library, 901 G St NW, DC at 5:30, 6:30, and 7:30PM.
when he lived in San Francisco.  He definitely didn't belong in my
beginners' class last December at MLKing.

There is a web site for the Cherry Blossom Festival:
http://www.gwjapan.com/cherryblossom/
Go to Sakura Matsuri, then origami to see some photos from last year's
origami activities.  This year's festival will be Saturday, April 12th from
12Noon to 4:30PM at Freedom Plaza, 14th ST & Pennsylvania Avenue, NW,
Washington, DC.  Let me know if you'd like to fold w/ up to 25,000 visitors.
One of the other featured performers is the Candy Man from Walt Disney World.

Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA
marcia.mau@pressroom.com





Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:23:46 -0400 (AST)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: VERY cool Origami Sighting

Hi all:

Several days ago, I got a piece of promotional material in the mail and it
reads like this:

"If an Origami artist can make *800 shapes from one piece of paper*
(highlighted), why do telemarketing companies keep coming back with one
idea every time?"

The cover of this three part folded card stock has a crane folded from
green wavy striped paper.  The inside highlights three critical areas of
expertise which are supposed to apply to Origami as well as the touted
company's services, they are:  Design, Test, and Solve.  Accompanying the
headings for these three areas are...folding diagrams!  How cool is that?

The company's website is market@harte-hanks.com if you want to give them
some warm fuzzies for using Origami in the proper context, raising Origami
consciousness, or demand they give credit to the folder.

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               Steve Woodmansee
               stevew@empnet.com
               Bend, Oregon
               USA





Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:45:30 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Tolkien & Origami (was Re: one standard....)

On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Joseph Wu wrote:

=The quote first appears in the Hobbit and is fleshed out in The Lord of the
=Rings. Here's the relavent portion (from memory...forgive me if I get it
=wrong):
=
=One ring to ???? them all, one ring to find them.
=One ring to rule them all, and one ring to bind them.
=In the land of Mordor where shadows lie.

Well, I appear to have managed to totally botch this up. Here's the actual
quote:

 Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
   Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
 Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
   One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
 In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
   One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
   One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
 In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 02:14:42 -0400 (AST)
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: origami sighting on the web (sounds strange, huh?)

Hi everyone! Yes, that's right, I have an origami sighting on the web. No,
it's not my own web page, it's an advertisement on cnet.com that I saw at
this URL:

http://www.cnet.com/Content/Features/Dlife/Crime/ss01e.html

though I doubt if you go there you'll get this ad, since I think they
rotate the ads on these pages.

Anyway, it's an advertisement for Quote.com, and it reads, "What does your
money do when you're not watching it?" The next frame of the animated gif
shows three money folds: a bow-tie, an airplane of some sort, and a jumping
frog. Then it says, "Find out" and "Watch your money like a hawk."

I checked out quote.com for any other origami references, but to no avail...

-Eric  :-P

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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 02:46:04 -0400 (AST)
From: "S.W. Nelson" <sn5@earthlink.net>
Subject: BARF to; C.(silly fun)

**Something Homer Simpson and Barney do a lot of.**

I thought puppies barf..

(that was silly of me, now I want to barf)

Rachael
just silly fun





Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:31:40 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Translation (sort of) Re: [FR] Naissance de Origami-Fr

On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Joseph Wu wrote:

==Inscivez-vous nombreux...
=
=[Uh-oh...I can't remember what this verb means...]

I had some troubles here and now I know why. It's a typo. Should've been
"inscrivez". Anyway, the line means:

(Please) write a bunch (of messages)...

 Joseph Wu - origami@planet.datt.co.jp - http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami
> It's your privilege as an artist to inflict the pain of creativity on
yourself. We can teach you how WE paint, but we can't teach you how YOU
paint. There's More Than One Way To Do It.
> Have the appropriate amount of fun.    --Wall, Christiansen, Schwartz





Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 05:39:17 -0400 (AST)
From: Holmes David EXC IS CH <holmes@chbs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: one standard....

Carmel Morris wrote:
> >Yep, B5 is great.  But the original quote is a parody from JRR
Tolkien's Lord
> >Of The Rings (or maybe The Hobbit, hmmm, guess its time for the next
> >re-reading)!
>
> Lord of the Rings, actually. Many old themes are recycled into modern
SF
> and B5 uses them. I like their Prisoner references, especially when
Bester
> says "Be Seeing You" with the finger and thumb leaving his forehead,
not his
> eye (Being Psi Corps). I met Harlan Ellison last year (He's the
conceptual

I never picked up on that - thanks for pointing it out!

> consultant for B5) and I asked him to incorporate some origami into a
future
> episode. Also Michael Ohare (Sinclair) is visiting here soon so I'll
be
> showing him how to fold a Star Fury.

It'd be great to see them use origami in the show, and if their
finances run out, they could always use origami Star Furies instead
of the CGI variety 8^)

Dave

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david.holmes@bigfoot.com    |    holmes@chbs.ciba.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 05:00:17 -0400 (AST)
From: Holmes David EXC IS CH <holmes@chbs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: origami sighting on the web (sounds strange, huh?)

> Hi everyone! Yes, that's right, I have an origami sighting on the web. No,
> it's not my own web page, it's an advertisement on cnet.com that I saw at
> this URL:
>
> http://www.cnet.com/Content/Features/Dlife/Crime/ss01e.html
>
> though I doubt if you go there you'll get this ad, since I think they
> rotate the ads on these pages.
>
> Anyway, it's an advertisement for Quote.com, and it reads, "What does your
> money do when you're not watching it?" The next frame of the animated gif
> shows three money folds: a bow-tie, an airplane of some sort, and a jumping
> frog. Then it says, "Find out" and "Watch your money like a hawk."
>
> I checked out quote.com for any other origami references, but to no avail...
>
> -Eric  :-P

Did you save it to disk, by any chance?

Dave

--
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david.holmes@bigfoot.com    |    holmes@chbs.ciba.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 05:23:07 -0400 (AST)
From: Holmes David EXC IS CH <holmes@chbs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: one standard....

Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:
> >Cool!  Someone else who watches the *best* SF show ever - Babylon 5
> >
> >Dave
>
> Hi, Dave!  I have a friend who's been looking for origami spider designs.
> Are you wondering why??In Montreal B5 reigns supreme!

There is a spider design in P.D. Tuyen's "Classic Origami" (Sterling
Publishing Company, Inc. ISBN: 0 80691 281 2)  There may be others, but
I haven't seen any.  I think to get the right spider effect you'd need
to create a wet-fold design though.

Here's hoping for the fifth season & <-- fingers crossed 8^)

Dave

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david.holmes@bigfoot.com    |    holmes@chbs.ciba.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 05:13:11 -0400 (AST)
From: Holmes David EXC IS CH <holmes@chbs.ciba.com>
Subject: B5 (was RE: one standard....)

Mark Gilchrist wrote:
> >david.holmes@bigfoot.com wrote:
> >+Cool!  Someone else who watches the *best* SF show ever - Babylon 5
> >
> Do you read any of the B5 Newsgroups?  I haven't seen you there...or are
> you a Lurker?

I stay away from them; I don't want to risk inadvertently reading
any spoilers!

> Catchya on the Flip side
>
>
> SORRY...... first Anime, now B5.  Don't chuck me off the list.  Please.
> Mark lfolding.  Thy say teach me something.  Ifold.  Creasing, I am good
> at.  Closed sinking, not good.  At least there is symmetry.

8^)

> For those that don't watch B5 get rid of your "life " and start watching
> it.  ;-)))))

Yeah, you probably won't understand one bit of what's going on, but
you can watch in awe as J. Michael Straczynski weaves his magic.

> Back on topic....where can I get wallpaper from that folds well.  I need a
> big piece because I'm trying to fimportant feature "five miles long, all
> alone in the night"!
>
> No....I will not explain it!

I've thought about trying to design the station; perhaps if I knew
how to get many points I'd then be able to include the solar panels.

Dave

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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:59:03 -0400 (AST)
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: Re: one standard....

>
> Warning.....this has little to do with Origami, but my Mum says its polite
> to answer letters!
>
> >david.holmes@bigfoot.com wrote:
> >+> >>One standard to rule them all, one standard to find them,
> >+> >>One standard to bring them all, and in darkness bind them.
> >+> >>In the land of Microsoft, where Shadows lie.
> >+>
> >+> Shadows? EEK!
> >+>
> >+> Does Microsoft have an office on Z'ha'dum?
> >+> >>One standard to rule them all, one standard to find them,
> > >>One standard to bring them all, and in darkness bind them.
> > >>In the land of Microsoft, where Shadows lie.
> >
> > Shadows? EEK!
> >
> > Does Microsoft have an office on Z'ha'dum?
>
> Where do you think B.G has his office?
>
 does that mean that he is now vaporized or is he on Centari Prime and
 wrapped around someone's neck?

 (heheheheh :-)

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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:50:52 -0400 (AST)
From: Mr D Cohen <dc35983@ggr.co.uk>
Subject: Re: paper airplanes

Carmel Morris writes (23-Feb):

>>Gee, hasn't anyone got nay of my paper plane books?

>>They can't be *that bad* can they?

They sure aren't that bad, as I bought a couple of the Advanced Paper
Aircraft volumes for Christmas presents. They're reasonably easy to get in
the UK.

I especially like your sense of humour!

David Cohen
dc35983@ggr.co.uk
British Origami magazine 'People, Paper & Places' columnist





Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 10:13:33 -0400 (AST)
From: Holmes David EXC IS CH <holmes@chbs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: one standard....

Douglas Zander wrote:
> > > Does Microsoft have an office on Z'ha'dum?
> >
> > Where do you think B.G has his office?
> >
>  does that mean that he is now vaporized or is he on Centari Prime and
>  wrapped around someone's neck?
>
>  (heheheheh :-)

Shame on you!  For those that haven't yet seen it all, that could be the
biggest spoiler EVER.  8^(

Dave

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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 10:33:19 -0400 (AST)
From: Mr D Cohen <dc35983@ggr.co.uk>
Subject: RE: paper airplanes

Clare Thackeray writes (21-Feb):

>>My favourite origami books are "Paper Flight" by Jack Botermans
>>and "The Gliding Flight" by John M. Collins. Both are terrific paper
>>airplane books.

Well, I must admit that when I found "The Gliding Flight" I thought it was
one of the *best* paper airplane books I'd ever seen ... and still do! And,
it's one of the only paper folding books I can recall with "flip-through"
animation, which shows you some common origami procedures - even a sink!! I
especially like John's "to taste fold" which he calls RAT - right about
there! I'd recommend it, and you can still get it in the UK - I saw it at
Bookends in December (Exhibition Road, Earls Court, London). In fact I did a
review of it at the time for the B.O.S. magazine, but can't recall which
edition.

I feel that paper airplane folding is really a separate, well, 'craft',
apart from origami (bit like napkin folding). I'd class it more as paper
folding, than origami. All of the books have their own very individual
style, which really set them apart.

David Cohen
dc35983.ggr.co.uk
British Origami magazine 'People, Paper & Places' columnist





Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:35:13 -0400 (AST)
From: Yaacov Metzger <origami@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: origami sighting on the web (sounds strange, huh?)

To all:

I clicked around c-net for a while (nice site, BTW) till I found the ad.
After poking around the source a bit, I was able to find the ad by itself.
Here it is:

http://www.news.com/Banners/Images/quote.origami.banner.gif?2033951

actually, it works without the numbers at the end, too:

http://www.news.com/Banners/Images/quote.origami.banner.gif

The pictures look sort of familiar - from "The Buck Book" perhaps?

Yaacov Metzger
origami@worldnet.att.net

> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 01:12:18 -0500
> From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
> To: origami-l@nstn.ns.ca
> Subject: origami sighting on the web (sounds strange, huh?)

> Hi everyone! Yes, that's right, I have an origami sighting on the web.
No,
> it's not my own web page, it's an advertisement on cnet.com that I saw at
> this URL:

> though I doubt if you go there you'll get this ad, since I think they
> rotate the ads on these pages.
>
> Anyway, it's an advertisement for Quote.com, and it reads, "What does
your
> money do when you're not watching it?" The next frame of the animated gif
> shows three money folds: a bow-tie, an airplane of some sort, and a
jumping
> frog. Then it says, "Find out" and "Watch your money like a hawk."
>
> I checked out quote.com for any other origami references, but to no
avail...
>
> -Eric  :-P





Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:42:25 -0400 (AST)
From: rick@tridelta.com (Rick Bissell)
Subject: OUSA lending library

Perhaps someone can give me some information regarding
OrigamiUSA's lending library.

Years ago when I became a member, the directions were
to send a self-addressed stamped envolope to OrigamiUSA
(actually is was FOCA then) and request the registration form.  Is this
still the procedure?  Or can this be done
now via email?

Is the library catalog available on the Origami Archive?
If so, is it acessible via email requests?

Thanks in advance for any info.

-- Rick Bissell
   Mentor, OH





Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 12:52:39 -0400 (AST)
From: "Goveia, William P" <wgoveia@indiana.edu>
Subject: Another Introduction (profile)

I probably should introduce myself as well.  My name is Bill Goveia, and
I have also been subscribed (and lurking) for a couple of weeks now.

I short introduction for me might include a reference to my
left-handedness ;-), and an allergy to stings from bees, wasps and the
like.  It would also include reference to the fact that I am anything
but dyslexic.  I live just outside of Bloomington Indiana, home of
Indiana University, where I work as a LAN Operations Specialist (cool
title for a computer jockey, huh?) at our School of Education.

I have been folding for about 19 years (I am 30), and cannot imagine not
folding. I have a decent origami library.  I also have a love for
folding.  I was like a little kid when I began matching names on this
list to the names of the authors of many of the books I have.  I have
also been collecting titles from you folks, and adding them to my gift
list for birthdays, fathers day, my anniversary, etc so keep the
suggestions coming.  Does anyone on the list maintain a bibliography?
Is it posted on the web?

My 9 year old daughter seems to be following my lead, and has begun
asking for origami books and paper, so she and I spend quite a few
evenings with origami books strewn over the table, and what she calls
"square scraps" strewn at our feet.

Well, I need to get to the point and let you folks go.  I just wanted to
say "Hi!"





Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:25:32 -0400 (AST)
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: RE: origami sighting on the web (sounds strange, huh?)

At 05:00 AM 2/25/97 -0400, you wrote:
..
>
>Did you save it to disk, by any chance?
>
>Dave
>

No, I didn't, and I haven't seen it on cnet again; maybe they time these
advertisements, so it will only be up in the evening???

-Eric  :-P
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   /__|__\            \/__|__\/             Kawahata
   \  |  /             \_/ \_/             stegosaurus
    \ | /             Flapping
     \|/                bird      Eric Andersen | math major
      V                        Brown University | origami@brown.edu
  Bird Base                 http://www.netspace.org/~ema/origami.html





Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:16:27 -0400 (AST)
From: acc-a@ugrad.cs.york.ac.uk
Subject: Anyone know of any new computer Origami Software ?

I am looking for new computer/maths related origami software and literature

Its need to be from the last 12 months (the last 9 months would be better)

If so give me a buzz please (its for my final year thesis - ie that orgami
simulater I mentioned a while ago ....)

Alex the Spod





Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:55:34 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Tolkien & Origami (was Re: one standard....)

Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp> sez

>=ObOrigami:  Has anyone designed a model of a Ballrog?
>
>Hmm....I've thought about it, what with my mythology bent and all, but have
>you ever seen a good description of one?

Big, hairy & ugly, but that could account for 1/2 the BOS council ;)
(not *you* Penny, of course!)

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
DART homepage   http://www.shef.ac.uk/uni/projects/oip/dart/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk
