




Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 12:12:26 -0400 (AST)
From: "S.W. Nelson" <sn5@earthlink.net>
Subject: An Introduction (profile)

I should properly introduce myself to this list. I'm Rachael O.Nelson.
I joined this list a couple weeks back and for a short time I needed to
     unsubscribe, now to subscribe once again.
I'm a 43 year old housewife and mother of one. I'm an arist and have many
     interests. I love most things in life, at least now I do. I'll explain as
is, the part of why I love origami. Perhaps some can relate.

My first experience with origami was when I was 10 years old. At summer camp
I was taught to fold the crane. Years went by without making these little
birds or without any thought of folding paper.
However when I was 19 I was in the military, which was totally out of
character for me. Or I should say, I was one who didn't belong to the
"Army" At 5'2" and 100 lbs., one could surely see I didn't belong.(IMO)

To the point: Most of you are familar with the case of the 12 year old girl
(Okinawa Crane Project)who was kidnapped and such(without saying it).
I shared the same experience as did this 12 year old child, only I was at
"legal age"(which doesn't matter at what age)Crime is crime.
At _my time,I found myself writing little notes folded and stuffed in my
     purses, drawers, any where I could hide the secrets of the experience.
Finally a few years ago, a young girl reintroduced me to the Crane. I began
     folding these little birds once again, but giving them away or leaving
     them in
at the market on a shelf, at the gas station on a gas pump. A small surprize to
     anyone who found one (s).
Eventually the sadness and pain of my experience began to lessen. I owe it to
origami,or the crane.
Folding paper is like a saviour for me. My meditation and release of what
     happened long ago. It is theraputic, and really It called to me, if that
     makes sense.
I made a comment here once that I hate to see Paper tossed away. In my mind
paper is symbolic of myself... being tossed away, or discarded, not needed.
     There is beauty and worth, even in something damaged as paper(or people).

So. There's my story of why I love origami. I can't stop and don't want to.
I've been seriously folding for about 4 years and am just learning there is
so much more to learn of this art. I appreciate it and respect it, if that makes
sense to anyone.
I am doing very well now, the past is gone. Soon I am hoping to teach children
in my area how to fold paper. So if anyone could make some suggestions to me
on how to prepare, I'd welcome any.
There is no one else in my area who folds, so far I'm the only one. I have
     donated 2 origami books to our library, and gave a short class. But to
     venture out and have a Class of my own I'm not sure I can pull it off
     (grin). I belive I can though. I just n
The books I have are:
_Unit Origami (T.Fuse);_Origami Boxes (both my favorits)
_Complete Origami(E. Kenneway)
_African Animals, _Birds, and _Mythological Creatures (Montroll)
_Creative Origami(Kasahara)

I'm thinking the age group I want to teach be between the ages of 12-18. Also
     that Unit origami would be a good start for children, because the projects
are more ornamental...but wonderful.

If you've read this far, thank you!
Remember to give Something Good, to children of the world.

Rachael Olivia
ps.. My goal; to fold 1000 cranes before I pass to the next life, or before
my eyes fail(grin)but even then, I could fold Cranes blind.





Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:06:58 -0400 (AST)
From: VVOrigami@aol.com
Subject: Re: paper airplanes

Joseph Wu wrote that he found the diagrams in
 "How to Make Origami Airplanes That Fly" by Gery Hsu
confusing. Now I don't feel so bad; I was able to complete
4 or 5 planes, but there was on in particular I never did get;
the "geometry" of the diagrams in particular is faulty, and
you can't distinguish creases from edges/layers in Hsu's
drawings.

They're great airplanes, but I too would recommend
that all but experienced folders/diagram readers avoid this
book. It would be enough to put a beginner off origami for life...

--valerie

Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com
valerivann@aol.com





Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 16:54:15 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: New Book: Congratulations!

I see by the new book list on Fascinating Folds Web page
that list member V'Ann Cornelius has a book published!

"Don't Need Mommy For This Origami"
V'Ann Cornelius
ISBN 1-56231-330-4 $5.95

Described as projects for ages 4-10; to do themselves with
minimal assistance, I presume.

Congratulations, V'Ann!

-valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 19:27:33 -0400 (AST)
From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@tessellation.com>
Subject: Origami in Washington DC?

I will be in Washington DC this coming week, and wondered if anyone could
recommend origami stores/shops/museums in that area.

Thanks in advance,

Robert

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Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 20:37:13 -0400 (AST)
From: Steven Casey <scasey@enternet.com.au>
Subject: Re:  (myth-creatures)

At 10:21 AM 22/02/97 -0400, Rachael  wrote:

>**reverse fold the paper in side "eased" out to form the shape..**
>I did discover I had to pull-out the reverse folds in step25, tucked inside
thus giving me the "little points" I couldn't find before.
>

Hi,

What Rachael is referring to here is in fact Step 32  for the tail, I found
it easier to do an outside reverse fold and ease the paper out, to form the
tail shape in step 33. :-)     (My original response was direct to Rachael)

Step 25 is correct.

Re step 19. ( so everyone knows )

Make sure that the white flaps that are reverse folded down, in step 18 are
reversed up again in step 19.

Step 19 looks like a pre-ceasing move, but is meant to be an x-ray view of
the reverse folds. The x-ray lines are missing on the right hand side. (If
step 19 isn't done correctly  you'll have problems at steps 23 to 25)

And as Mark Kirschenbaum  points out in step 22, the turn over symbol
suggests left to right instead of top to bottom.

I wonder how many rabbit folds have been done over the years? What do
suppose has been the most "done" subject in respect to animals?

By the way Rachael, I "really" like chocolate chip cookies  :-))

Steven Casey,
scasey@enternet.com.au





Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 00:36:38 -0400 (AST)
From: bg449@juno.com
Subject: Re: (myth-creatures)

I need some help. Though I have enjoyed the mail, how do I un-subscribe
from this particular subscription. Thanks!!!





Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:17:40 -0400 (AST)
From: Pam and/or Namir <pgraben@umich.edu>
Subject: Monthly Posting: Hints & Dimensions

Hey all you netters.  I just wanted to make a small posting
telling all you new folks out there, and anyone else who may find
the information useful, about some documents I now maintain.
Zach Brown is housing these at his web site:
http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/z/zbrown/origami/
and they are posted in full on the origami newsgroup
alt.arts.origami monthly.  The items that are being referred to are:

"Origami Book Errata & Hints"
    A document that lists typos, diagrammatic error, and hints
for difficult or hard-to-interpret instructions.
http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/z/zbrown/origami/origami.errata

"Origami Model Dimensions"
    A document that gives the size of a finished model in
comparison to the starting size.  The measurements are
scaleable.  This is useful if you need a particular size
model, and are unsure of what size paper to start with.
http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/z/zbrown/origami/origami.dimensions

If anyone cares to contribute to either of these articles, please
feel free to drop me a line.

Have fun, and I hope these prove useful in extending your joy of origami!
-Namir

!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
Pamela Graben:     Thinking... what a concept!
Namir Gharaibeh:  "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
pgraben@umich.edu





Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 06:18:23 -0400 (AST)
From: "Steve Theil" <theil@htonline.com>
Subject: Origami-L: paper airplanes

For animated diagrams of paper airplanes, check out Kittyhawk at:
http://www.khs.com/khs/KHSMAIN.HTM

I really like to watch these things fold themselves!

Linda Theil
theil@htonline.com





Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 06:55:12 -0400 (AST)
From: cmorris@geko.net.au (Carmel Morris)
Subject: Re: paper airplanes

Gee, hasn't anyone got any of my paper plane books?

They can't be *that bad* can they??

-Advanced Paper Aircraft Vol I-III (Harper)
 (also known as Best Paper Aircraft in the U.S.)

-Spacebusters (origami spaceships) (Scholastic)

Maybe I'll stick to writing books about folding dinosaurs.
-then again...

BCNU

Carmel

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Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 06:55:34 -0400 (AST)
From: cmorris@geko.net.au (Carmel Morris)
Subject: Re: paper airplanes

- Even Wings 'n Things gives me a good bio in the back of the book!

Carmel aka George Elliot

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Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 07:13:56 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: paper airplanes

Steve Buck <folder@dc.net> sez

>Any new airplane designs available, Nick?

Only the one, available at my website (below)

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk





Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 07:38:30 -0400 (AST)
From: Mark Gilchrist <mark@gilchrist.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Left Handedness (was:info wanted)

>
>On a less serious note, I'm now practicing writing with my left hand in the
>hopes that I will become a better folder.
>
>
>Wayne

Of course it will!  Need you ask?  And you will be a much better person too

(-:

Mark

One standard to rule them all, one standard to find them,
One standard to bring them all, and in darkness bind them.
In the land of Microsoft, where Shadows lie.





Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 07:41:53 -0400 (AST)
From: Kenny1414@aol.com
Subject: Re: Superior beings

A little more detail on the "Slan" for non-readers of older science fiction:
(this is from memory, so I may have details wrong.)

In A.E. Van Vogt's book, "Slan", the Slan were a human mutation, gifted with
extra strength, intelligence, and telepathy, but marked by little "tendrils"
on their heads, and had been driven into hiding by the normal human's
campaign to exterminate the Slan.





Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 09:27:15 -0400 (AST)
From: Steven Casey <scasey@enternet.com.au>
Subject: Re: paper airplanes

At 06:55 AM 23/02/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Gee, hasn't anyone got any of my paper plane books?
>
>They can't be *that bad* can they??
>
>-Advanced Paper Aircraft Vol I-III (Harper)
> (also known as Best Paper Aircraft in the U.S.)
>
>-Spacebusters (origami spaceships) (Scholastic)

You forgot to mention:

Advanced Paper Aircraft Construction
(easy-to-follow-instructions-for-14-flyable-models) (available Libraries)

Advanced Paper Aircraft Construction MK II
(More easy-to- make flyable models).      (available Libraries)

Advanced Paper Aircraft Construction MKIII
(12 High performance models and why they fly)  (available Libraries)

Skybusters companion to Spacebusters  (available ??)

I'm assuming the above may be out of print, but most libraries have them

There's also a rare book by Beth Mathews on Origami Kites that actually fly.

Also Paul Jackson has a small book on Paper airplane which includes stickers
to jazz them up with.

Then there's the  Lingore Paper Airplane Folding Manual
(An Introduction to Functional Origami )  by Hans R. Bergen

And ..

The Ultimate Paper AirPlane by Richard Kline
(Illustrated by Floyd Fogleman and Richard Kline)

And ..

Origami made easy by Kunihiko Kasahara has a section on paper airplanes.

Cheers,

Steven Casey,
scasey@enternet.com.au

Melbourne, Australia





Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 11:51:52 -0400 (AST)
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Psychological profile

> So Montroll, Lang.....are you allergic and dyslexic???
> Chris and I are not.  ;-p

.os kniht t'nod I ,on ,aixelsyd eht rof sa tub ,deson-ynnur dna deye-yraelb
raey eht fo skeew owt dneps od I

gnaL J. treboR
moc.loa@gnaljR





Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 11:58:43 -0400 (AST)
From: "Vincent & Veronique" <osele@worldnet.fr>
Subject: [FR] Naissance de Origami-Fr

Bonjour,

Je tiens a vous annoncer la naissance (pas de mon bebe, pas encore)
d'une nouvelle liste de diffusion: Origami-Fr

Cette liste est destin=E9e =E0 tout les amoureux de la langue francaise
(mais pas oblige d'avoir une adr qui se termine par .fr :) et de
l'origami.

Pour s'y inscrire, envoyez un mail sans sujet a l'adr suivante:

   majordomo@mygale.org

avec le texte suivant:

   subscribe origami-fr <votre_adr_email>

Inscivez-vous nombreux...

Vincent

PS: J'aurais pu faire une traduction en Anglais meme est-ce vraiment
necessaire ?:)

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Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:02:14 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy Palmer-Lister <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re: Superior beings

 I'm finding this whole conversation rather silly ---
>=Folders are not Slans.
>
>Hear, hear! But what, pray tell, is a "Slan"?
>
>          Joseph Wu

Slans are superior beings.........This is Sci-Fi fandom jargon.  I am a
sci-fi fan myself, but I think people who use fan-speak, especially among
nonfans(known to slans as mundanes) are being silly.

                                                Cathy





Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:05:30 -0400 (AST)
From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@bboxbbs.ch>
Subject: Origamic Depression

Thanks, Joshua Kronengold!

I was already having severe self-esteem problems because I am
not allergic to most things and most certainly don`t know
much about math...
You just saved me from Origamic Depression ;-).

Matthias

Joshua Kronengold wrote:
> claim that the members are more inteligent/creative/whateverthan the
> norm, I'm finding this whole conversation rather silly ---
> Folders are not Slans.





Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:15:06 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy Palmer-Lister <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: Re: paper airplanes

At 06:55 AM 1997-02-23 -0400, you wrote:
>Gee, hasn't anyone got any of my paper plane books?
>
>They can't be *that bad* can they??
>
>-Advanced Paper Aircraft Vol I-III (Harper)
> (also known as Best Paper Aircraft in the U.S.)
>
>-Spacebusters (origami spaceships) (Scholastic)
>
>Maybe I'll stick to writing books about folding dinosaurs.
>-then again...
>
>BCNU
>
>Carmel
>
>
>
>
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>-----Carmel Morris - cmorris@geko.net.au-----
>-------http://www.geko.net.au/~cmorris-------
>----PO Box 881, North Turramurra NSW 2076----
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Hi!  I have Spacebusters and Skybusters, but the author is given as a
Campbell Morris.  I liked them.

                                                Cathy





Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:18:23 -0400 (AST)
From: Cathy Palmer-Lister <cathypl@generation.net>
Subject: one standard....

>(-:
>
>
>Mark
>
>One standard to rule them all, one standard to find them,
>One standard to bring them all, and in darkness bind them.
>In the land of Microsoft, where Shadows lie.
>

Thanks!  I needed a good laugh today!

                        Cathy
