




Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:23:16 -0400 (AST)
From: Maarten van Gelder <M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Re: [NO] Missing messages (in the archives)

Several people offered me to send these messages. Thanks a lot.
Also three people did send them. So I've to sort out which messages I have
once, twice or even three times.

I'm not sure but I thought one of the bunches came via the list. I hope you
didn't get flooded by this.

Next time when I am missing some messages I'l be more cautious in asking for
them (As in: don't send, but first tell me if you have them).

Maarten van Gelder,           Rekencentrum RuG,  RijksUniversiteit Groningen
M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl                         Nederland





Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 06:01:58 -0400 (AST)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Origami-L: Pentas AND Modules AND School

>
> Jeannine asks
>
> > What's a nanotube?
>

A couple of additional points which I recall from attending
seminars about C60 from Professor Harry Kroto, and Professor
Malcolm Green.

1. By combining the requisite number of hexagons with 12
   pentagons (I hope I've got the number right!) it is possible
   to produced closed polyhedra of various shapes. The smallest
   is 0 hexagons, the dodecahedron, next up is C60, and you can
   keep expanding with hexagons. One way of the doing this is
   to insert a band of hexagons at the equator of C60, a single
   band gives C70, a chickenwire tube of many hexagons can be
   inserted to form a nanotube closed at both end with hemispheres
   each hemisphere containing 6 pentagons. It is chemically possible
   to break the hemispheres off the molecules to leave a true tube,
   open at both end. Other chemicals can be introduced into these
   tubes.

2. Nanoonions have also been observed. C60 can be enlarged to another
   molecule of the same shape, but larger radius by inserting just
   hexagons into the framework, the hole inside is large enough to hold
   C60, a succession of layers can be built up, giving a supermolecule
   whose gross structure resembles that of an onion (spheres within
   sphere). I have seen a huge model of this, made from plastic straws.
   Tubes within tubes have also been seen. You need the very high
   magnification of an electron microscope to see these structures, they
   are tiny, sizes in the NANOmetre range (1 nm = 10^-9 m), hence the
   use of nano in naming these objects.

3. In chemistry planes formed from hexagons do not have to be flat, they
   bend quite easily - as in the tubes of the nanotubes, the hexagonal
   'plates' of C60 and its larger brethren.

I guess there must be some web sites with pictures of some of these structures,
as C60 and related 'fullerene' molecules have been a hot topic in chemistry
for quite a few years. Fullerene is for Buckminster Fuller, who designed domes
from hexagons and pentagons - if you look hard at pictures of his domes you will

> Nanotubes are single molecules of carbon whose molecular
> framework looks like chicken wire (fused hexagons), just
> like the layers in graphite, except that the sheet is
> folded back on itself and seamlessly fused to make a tube.
> The result is a wonderfully flexible and strong molecular
> wire (it conducts electricity) which has been used recently to
> make superfine tips for scanning tunneling microscopy (big word)
> which allow atomic-level imaging of surfaces with unprecedented
> resolution.
>   This reminds me a bit of looking through chemistry books
> when I was a kid to find models I could build with my Dad's
> molecular modeling kit.  I didn't understand much chemistry
> back then, but I did learn a bit while playing.  It seems
> as though you could do something similar with modular
> origami and structures such as
>
>      -> bucky ball
>      -> nanotubes
>      -> zeolites (crytalline structures with lots
>                   of open holes inside)
>      -> may be even quasicrystals ("crystals" with local
>                   pentagonal symmetry which fill space but
>                   have no long range order)
>
> Does anyone know of origami used to teach chemistry?  I seem
> to remember a Japanese colleague mentionning to me that his
> chemistry teacher in Japan did something of the sort but I
> really don't know any details.
>
>                     So long,
>                        Mark
>
> --
> *-------------------------------------------------------*
> |          Mark E. Casida                               |
> |          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 07:30:34 -0400 (AST)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Origami-L: Pentas AND Modules AND School

Oops, this message was sent before it was quite finished

>
> I guess there must be some web sites with pictures of some of these
     structures,
> as C60 and related 'fullerene' molecules have been a hot topic in chemistry
> for quite a few years. Fullerene is for Buckminster Fuller, who designed domes
> from hexagons and pentagons - if you look hard at pictures of his domes you
     will
>

be able to spot the pentagons. There are far fewer pentagons than hexagons -
you only need 6 pentagons for a hemispherical dome.

All the molecules are composed exclusively of carbon. It is possible to enclose
a (suitable) metal atom inside the cavity of C60, and some work is being done
to attach other atoms to the outside of C60. So far as I am aware there are no
commercial applications for C60, but it is a damn fine looking molecule!

Bye

Richard K.
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:04:39 -0400 (AST)
From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@bboxbbs.ch>
Subject: Re: ASCII diagram

Vincent & Veronique wrote:

> Le but est de ranger les sacs de platiques pour faire les courses

Two "translations" I've come up with:

1) The goal is space-saving storage of plastic shopping bags by folding
them.
2) Bring Order to Chaos! Fold your shopping bags!

What a clever design, I'll put it to to work immediately! Do I have to
pay royalties for each bag I fold?

Matthias





Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:36:13 -0400 (AST)
From: Gordon Crane <gordonc@mnsinc.com>
Subject: Papers and books

Kim's Crane has a new home.  Our site has moved to
http://www.kimscrane.com  We now have images and summaries of all our
books as well as a list of our papers.  Each month we will be offering a
Monthly Special, beginning with February.  Around the beginning of March
we will be scanning in images of all our commercially packaged origami
papers; about 300.  By late summer we expect to scan in the images of
our growing supply of large sheets of decorative art folding papers from
around the world.  We have been working hard to update this new site and
make it more user friendly.  Please have a look and let us know!

We thank each of you for your assistance and suggestions since our
conception about one year ago.  We wish you all lots of happy folding
and we receive much inspiration as each of you grows in the complexity
of the models you are able to fold.  There is much wisdom and talent
that makes up this list server and we are glad to be but a small part of
this.  Thanks again for the laughs and intellectual challenges each
message brings.

Happy Folding,

Kim's Crane
Gordon and Kimberly





Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:05:56 -0400 (AST)
From: MWCARGILL@aol.com
Subject: easy origami folds?

Hi!

I am a Camp Fire Boys and Girls leader for a group of kindergarteners and
also for a group of 5th graders.  We will be learning about Origami for our
National Art Project.  I am looking for folds that are not too difficult to
begin with for
each of these age groups.  Also, I am looking for easier to understand
folding instructions.  Some of the projects I have come across look simple
enough, but I am unable to figure out the folding instructions because some
are quite vague or the pictures do no show the direction of the fold.  I did
find great instructions for the crane and yakko from the Japan Window Kids
School page.

We plan on tying our National Project into another project called the Peace
project.  We have learned about Sadako and the children were moved by the
story.  My fifth graders, especially.  We desire to fold 1,000 cranes and
send them to the Peace Park in Hiroshima.

I appreciate any help or suggestions you may have to offer.  Thank you.  I am
glad to be creating in Origami again.  I haven't done so since childhood.  I
feel our project will be very fun and rewarding.

Sincerely, Mary





Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:46:31 -0400 (AST)
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: easy origami folds?

At 08:05 PM 1/29/97 -0400, MWCARGILL@aol.com wrote:

>I am a Camp Fire Boys and Girls leader for a group of kindergarteners and
>also for a group of 5th graders.  We will be learning about Origami for our
>National Art Project.  I am looking for folds that are not too difficult to
>begin with for each of these age groups.

Our very own V'ann Cornelius just put out a new book that seems to fit your
criteria. I forgot the exact title, but it is something like *origami that
you will not need your mother to help you with.* Also many of the books by
Paul Jackson and Gay Gross have above average instructions, and are often
geared towards the beggining folder. Good luck.

Marc





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:27:28 -0400 (AST)
From: Marcia Mau <marcia.mau@pressroom.com>
Subject: O is for Origami

I saw a four part Everybody's Ethnic alphabet poster today at a nearby
library. The letter "O" was represented by a white crane, folded by Ruthanne
Bessman.  The poster was published by Highsmith.

I went to a demonstration of the Metricom Ricochet wireless modem today.  Is
anyone using this technology to connect w/ the Internet?  Please contact me
directly.

I was told by the Ricochet representative that there is an origami museum in
Gifu Prefecture, Japan near Nagoya.  He said the displays of models were
quite intricate and extensive.  Does anyone else on the list have info on
the museum and whose models are on display?

Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA
marcia.mau@pressroom.com





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:28:19 -0400 (AST)
From: Kenny1414@aol.com
Subject: Re: easy origami folds?

In a message dated 97-01-29 19:57:04 EST, you write:

<< I am a Camp Fire Boys and Girls leader for a group of kindergarteners and
 also for a group of 5th graders.  We will be learning about Origami for our
 National Art Project.  I am looking for folds that are not too difficult to
 begin with for
 each of these age groups.  Also, I am looking for easier to understand
 folding instructions.  Some of the projects I have come across look simple
 enough, but I am unable to figure out the folding instructions because some
 are quite vague or the pictures do no show the direction of the fold.  I did
 find great instructions for the crane and yakko from the Japan Window Kids
 School page. >>

Please bear with me. I'm trying to help, but I'm a bit slow and long-winded.
I'm going to reel off a bunch of questions and suggestions that come to mind,
and hope that at least one of them can help you, and anyone else with similar
questions.

I am a little puzzled. Where are you looking, that you are finding these
"projects" with old-style instructions and pictures? (1) It would help, if
you gave a few specifics. (2) I'm going to suggest a few places, in case you
haven't tried these.

If you identify the specific article, and which step(s) you are having
trouble with, maybe someone else with access to the same could help you. As
it is, I don't know where to begin, since you didn't give any specifics, say:
(1) what fold you were attempting; (2) where the instructions came from, or
what issue of which magazine they were published in, or who they were were
written by; (3) what part of which step you were unclear on.

Have you looked in your local library, and in inter-library loan, for the
more modern books (1965 and up) that tend to use the
Harbin-Randlett-Yoshizawa line-and-arrow code? I'd recommend interlibrary
loan, if cost is a problem, or you're trying to get hold of out-of-print
books.

By the way, in this weather, I'd suggest phoning your library before going
over there, to make sure they have either origami books, or access to
inter-library loan.

Check out the videos by Michael G. LaFosse. They are beautiful.

For beginning-to-intermediate folds, I would especially recommend the books
by Samuel & Jeanne Randlett (did I spell their first names right?): The Art
of Origami, The Best of Origami, and The Flapping Bird. Mr. Randlett took
special pains to make her diagrams accurate, and his instructions clear.
Unfortunately, the last time I looked, the first two were out-of-print, but
they were beautiful hardcovers, and should be available thru inter-library
loan. But the Flapping Bird was still available from Magic Inc. in Chicago.
And the Robert Neale Dragon from a bird base is in the Flapping Bird. It is
not a beginning fold, more like intermediate, but it is so perfect.

I'd also highly recommend the yearly Convention Books from Origami USA (OUSA)
in New York, formerly named The Friends of the Origami Center of America
(FOCA). The last one I have is from 1986, I think, but I understand they've
been getting bigger, and better, and always have a good mix of new folds,
covering the whole range, from simple to very complex.

I understand, from a librarian I talked to, that most libraries would not
touch the Convention Books, or The Flapping Bird, with a ten-foot pole,
because they are published with a cheap plastic-comb binding, that the
libraries consider too flimsy and short-lived to be worth buying, never mind
how unique and desirable the books are. *sigh*   But I suspect you should be
able to get these thru interlibrary loan, since surely not all libraries
would be that conservative, and I know the libraries are very proud of and
like to show off their inter-library loan capabilities.

The books I've seen by Kasahara, have been very nice, tho some of them
rapidly get too complex for what you want. If I remember right, his "Creative
Origami" was good, and had a great chapter on creating origami, that was the
first I'd ever seen.

The modular origami books by Ms. Fuse are great. I'm not sure if their as
simple as you want. You're going to have to judge for yourself.

The Robert Harbin books (mostly out-of-print) have as good a range of
material as any, but occasionally have mis-proportioned or wrong diagrams and
instructions, which can be frustrating. With those books, do not assume that
a point in the drawing is halfway between here and there, just because it
looks like it. It is probably a good idea to make a note of every time you
have to guess how much to fold over, since sometimes it's four or five steps
later that you realize the fold no longer looks like the diagram. In spite of
that, they are great books. I can't believe "Origami, A Step-by-Step Guide"
went out-of-print so fast, in less than a year. And I have misplaced my only
copy. *whimper*  At least I managed to memorize Patricia Crawford's Unicorn.

The Kawai books I remember are illustrated with photographs, with not enough
contrast and detail. It was a nice idea, but diagrams seem to work better for
more people.

There are lots more out there. The British Origami Society (BOS) publishes a
series of booklets, and some of them are suitable for your needs. I suspect
someone else can fill you in on actual titles, since I can't remember them
right now. Something about Pure Land Origami, another on Origami Magic, and
one on Thoki Yenn, in particular. I'm sorry my memory isn't better, and my
books are buried right now.

If  you can name and/or describe the fold you want, in enough detail so
people here can recognize it, and ask real nice, maybe someone has time
enough to help you. Perhaps send you a photocopy, or a drawing, or make and
mail you step folds?

By the way, don't feel bad if step folds aren't your thing. Different people
need different presentations to learn from.

On a related topic, if you're teaching, watch out for the different kinds of
learners. Some people really have to just do it themselves, and have someone
on hand to answer questions, but please don't touch the paper. Some
occasionally need their hands held and guided. Some can pick it up from
watching someone else fold, but can't understand spoken directions. Some have
to handle step folds, seeing is not enough. Some can just look at step folds.
Some can just look at photos of step folds, but can't read the drawings. Some
can learn from drawings, but not from photos. Some can learn from written
text, but written text instructions are rare. Some can follow spoken
instructions. Some can only figure a fold out while they're trying to help
someone else with it. Some groups of people can learn as a team, but not
individually. Some can unfold a model, and learn from that. Sometimes, it is
even possible to figure out a model from looking at it, without touching it.
The extreme case  is being able to reproduce a new model after looking at a
photo or a drawing of the finished product! Come to think of it, the really
extreme case is being able to fold it after just thinking about it. I think
Akira Yoshzawa, John Montroll and Patricia Crawford could do that.

In a lot of these cases, only one or two ways will "work", and trying to
teach by the wrong method will only frustrate both of you, and it isn't
anyone's "fault". Since teaching styles also differ, sometimes the pupil has
to find a different teacher, but slow down and try varying your teaching
style and trying to decipher the student's learning style, first.

The variant learning styles are like different kinds of Dyslexia. And the
different teaching styles are like kinds of Aphasia. Like color-blindness,
it's frustrating and fascinating when you notice the differences, and they do
seem to be built-in. Fortunately, with origami, there's usually a way to work
around the problem.

When someone says "I don't understand", it usually means "I don't understand
that way". Very rarely, it means "I can't understand". And hopefully, most of
those cases are "I'm not ready to understand". In which case, give the brain
and body more time to mature and develop.

And, for anyone out there who thinks they'll never be a creative folder, be
patient, and learn everything you can. I didn't believe I'd ever be a
creative folder either, but one day, I sort of hit critical mass, as far as
the techniques and experience I'd picked up, and started, first modifying,
and then creating folds. I'm still not as good as I'd like to be, not good
enough to do it on demand, and I can't design animals much, but I'm still
learning, and every once in a while, I'll get an idea that works. You should
see the $ Bill Eagle that came to me one day. It's a cross between the
Peacock, and the Kimono, with proportions learned from seeing one of John
Montroll's Eagles. It's really true, what they say, "Practice makes
perfect!", and "Practice! Practice!".

Aloha,

Kenny1414@aol.com

Kenneth Kawamura
PO Box 6039
E Lansing,  MI  48826-6039





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 05:36:17 -0400 (AST)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Practical folding....

>
> > Seems to me that someone once posted to the list an origami fold for closing
> > bags of potato chips, etc....Can anyone help with this? I've searched the
> > archives at Alex Bateman's site with multiple keywords to no avail.
>
> I have a recollection that Edwin Corrie had a fold for closing a cylindrical
> packet of biscuits (=cookies, US?) published in a recent issue of the BOS
> magazine. I'll have to check my back-issues to come up with more information.
>

Cookie closure:

I've found the relevant back issue - December 1993, page 163. I can't think
of a good way to describe the moves in words. Email me directly if you would
like further information.

Richard K.
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:00:10 -0400 (AST)
From: Steve Theil <theil@htonline.com>
Subject: Origami-L re: easy origami folds

Mary said: "Also, I am looking for easier to understand folding
instructions.  Some of the projects I have come across look simple enough,
but I am unable to figure out the folding instructions because some are
quite vague or the pictures do no show the direction of the fold."

For many years (many years ago), I couldn't understand the diagrams from
most origami books; but when I renewed my interest in paper-folding about
five years ago, I found ESSENTIAL ORIGAMI by Steve and Megumi Biddle (St.
Martin's Press, 1991) to be exactly what I needed to figure everything out.
I also have THE NEW ORIGAMI by the same authors and publisher (1993).

I don't know how advanced folders feel about these books; but for a
beginner, ESSENTIAL ORIGAMI was an excellent primer for me. Even though it
is very comprehensive, and not for beginners only, everything is laid out
in a very clear and orderly way.

Best wishes,
Linda Theil





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 10:47:12 -0400 (AST)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Origami-L re: easy origami folds

Linda Theil wrote:
+Mary said: "Also, I am looking for easier to understand folding
+instructions.  Some of the projects I have come across look simple enough,
+but I am unable to figure out the folding instructions because some are
+quite vague or the pictures do no show the direction of the fold."
+
+For many years (many years ago), I couldn't understand the diagrams from
+most origami books; but when I renewed my interest in paper-folding about
+five years ago, I found ESSENTIAL ORIGAMI by Steve and Megumi Biddle (St.
+Martin's Press, 1991) to be exactly what I needed to figure everything out.
+I also have THE NEW ORIGAMI by the same authors and publisher (1993).
+
+I don't know how advanced folders feel about these books; but for a
+beginner, ESSENTIAL ORIGAMI was an excellent primer for me. Even though it
+is very comprehensive, and not for beginners only, everything is laid out
+in a very clear and orderly way.

While I like those books well enough, for some reason I just don't pick them
up to fold from very often...

My favorite book to recommend to beginner's (not just children) is:
    "Origami Plain and Simple" by Robert Neale and Thomas Hull
When I am teaching someone who has never folded before, I start with
(model names from memory, sorry!) _The_Big_Mouth-ed_Frog_.
_The_Magic_Ring_ is often the second or third model I teach to a
beginner, if I have the paper to spare.  Neale's models are simple, but
they have an elegance that "simple" doesn't always convey.  Tom Hull's
text is very friendly, it makes me feel like he is looking over my
shoulder offering advice, and the tone and banter are unusually casual for an
origami book- which I feel makes it less "intimidating" to a beginner.
Probably my fav. model of the book is "The Wabbit We-wised."  Oddly enough, I
did Neale's before doing the traditional rabbit (the inflatable water-bomb
variant) and I very much prefer Neale's.  But I ramble.

Doug Bob sez:  Check it Out!  Two Folds Up!

-Doug





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:28:45 -0400 (AST)
From: MWCARGILL@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami-L re: easy origami folds

In a message dated 97-01-30 08:22:15 EST, you write:

<< For many years (many years ago), I couldn't understand the diagrams from
 most origami books; but when I renewed my interest in paper-folding about
 five years ago, I found ESSENTIAL ORIGAMI by Steve and Megumi Biddle (St.
 Martin's Press, 1991) to be exactly what I needed to figure everything out.
 I also have THE NEW ORIGAMI by the same authors and publisher (1993). >>

Linda,

I want to thank you for your recommendations.  I look forward to catching the
Origami bug and passing it on to my club members!!

Thank you again.  - Mary Cargill





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:38:04 -0400 (AST)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Origami-L re: easy origami folds

I wrote:
+My favorite book to recommend to beginner's (not just children) is:
+    "Origami Plain and Simple" by Robert Neale and Thomas Hull
+When I am teaching someone who has never folded before, I start with
+(model names from memory, sorry!) _The_Big_Mouth-ed_Frog_.

I think it is _The_Frog_with_a_Big_Mouth_  (or maybe not, oh fickle memory!)

Of course as soon as I sent that message off I realized that I forgot to
mention my tied for 1st and half place book:
        _The_Art_of_Origami_ by Gay Merill Gross.

This book has great color photography, simple to follow instructions
and a wonderful set of models.  I would call it just barely a step up
from a beginner's book.  I recommend OPaS as a hands-down "first
origami book to get", and TAoO as the "second origami book to get".

I think TAoO is now out of print.  My copy is hardback - it might be available
via OUSA, haven't checked their catalog lately.  I have seen this book
reprinted (at least once) in paperback form, though I don't recall the
title...

Whatever it is called, you can recognize it by the models it contains:

    Stellated Octahedron by Sam Ciulla (My favorite one piece geometric)
    Gyroscope by Neale??? or Simon???
    Chain of Cranes by Tom Hull
    Butterfly Bomb by ???
    Kaleidoscope Flower by ???

Again,these are from memory, so my apologies to all for any mistakes!

-Doug





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:48:11 -0400 (AST)
From: paular@pdp.usu.edu
Subject: BOS mag?

I'm new here.  What is the BOS magazine?

Paula Hogan Larsen
Assistant University Editor
paular@pdp.usu.edu
797-0220

***********************************************************
Eat one live toad the first thing in the morning
and nothing worse will happen to you the rest of the day.





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:37:34 -0400 (AST)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Folding modulars with slick/slippery paper.

Ok, so without getting into the culinary or dietary aspects of this, please...

I happen to have a large number of Tootsie Roll Midgets' wrappers that
are begging to become a modular origami model of some kind or other.
The paper is roughly 1and5/8inches by 3inches depending on how firmly
one streches the wrinkles out when measuring/folding... But it is
definitely not 1:2, more like 1:1.8.  I have tried Valerie Vann's Gum
Wrapper units and Tom Hull's recently mentioned unit (there is a big gap in
the middle, but it otherwise "works").  What doesn't work is that the paper is
so slippery that the locking mechanisms don't work.  So I'm looking for
a unit lock that will hold such slick/slippery paper.  I'd prefer not to have
otherwise out of the way.

I'll keep playing around, but I thought that there might be someone out there
who had gone before me. ;-)

For the curious, I got a bag of Midgets at a warehouse club.  The bag has 600
pieces, but I have already given some away and lost and/or torn some of the
ones I have kept.  The great majority of them still have yet to be unwrapped.

-Doug





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:54:45 -0400 (AST)
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: Challenging Folds for Camp Fire Kids

     Hello, Mary (and all)!

     First, Mary, thank you for your dedication to young people!  I was a
     Camp Fire kid once, myself, so I know what good you're doing.  I wish
     we'd had an origami enthusiast for a leader back then.

     I'd like to recommend the book "Wings and Things - Origami That
     Flies." (Someone please help me remember the author's name!!!)  Each
     model becomes progressively more complex to challenge the folder.
     Best of all, after all the folding, the artists get to fly their work!

     Do fold your "senbazuru" (1,000 cranes)!  It's a rewarding experience.
     If I can offer any suggestions, please e-mail me privately.  Some
     friends and I muddled our way through one, and we're quite pleased
     with our results.

     Happy Folding!

     Jennifer
     JAndre@cfipro.com
     Portland, Oregon, USA

     Fold it, ergo sum.





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:19:31 -0400 (AST)
From: Jessica Starbuck <s405759@gettysburg.edu>
Subject: Re: Challenging Folds for Camp Fire Kids

I want my name removed from this list please.  Some one sent my address as a
joke.  I would appreciate it if this could be done quickly.  Thank you.

At 12:55 PM 1/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
>     Hello, Mary (and all)!
>
>     First, Mary, thank you for your dedication to young people!  I was a
>     Camp Fire kid once, myself, so I know what good you're doing.  I wish
>     we'd had an origami enthusiast for a leader back then.
>
>     I'd like to recommend the book "Wings and Things - Origami That
>     Flies." (Someone please help me remember the author's name!!!)  Each
>     model becomes progressively more complex to challenge the folder.
>     Best of all, after all the folding, the artists get to fly their work!
>
>     Do fold your "senbazuru" (1,000 cranes)!  It's a rewarding experience.
>     If I can offer any suggestions, please e-mail me privately.  Some
>     friends and I muddled our way through one, and we're quite pleased
>     with our results.
>
>     Happy Folding!
>
>     Jennifer
>     JAndre@cfipro.com
>     Portland, Oregon, USA
>
>     Fold it, ergo sum.





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:07:57 -0400 (AST)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: Re: Folding modulars with slick/slippery paper.

I have undertaken a couple of projects along the lines of candy wrappers and
other non-traditional origami papers.  I'll pass along two tips that have
helped me:

        1.      Iron the paper.  It gets rid of the wrinkles and if you cool
it afterwards (yes, in the fridge) it is a little easier to
fold with.
        2.      Use paper clips.  (this ought to get me flamed for days).
Sometimes floppy papers are very hard to build modulars with,
but ironically the completed model holds together pretty well.

Hope this helps...

 ///,        ////
 \  /,      /  >.
  \  /,   _/  /.
   \_  /_/   /.
    \__/_   <
    /<<< \_\_
   /,)^>>_._ \
   (/   \\ /\\\
        // ````
 ======((`=======

Just my $.02!

Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com
Bend, Oregon





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:56:23 -0400 (AST)
From: Contractors Exchange <contract@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Challenging Folds for Camp Fire Kids

At 12:54 PM 1/30/97 -0400, "Jennifer Andre" <JAndre@cfipro.com> wrote:

>     I'd like to recommend the book "Wings and Things - Origami That
>     Flies." (Someone please help me remember the author's name!!!)  Each
>     model becomes progressively more complex to challenge the folder.
>     Best of all, after all the folding, the artists get to fly their work!

The author is Stephen Weiss. This book contains the first model to ever
leave our atmosphere (the maple seed used in the NASA experiments).

Marc





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:03:08 -0400 (AST)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Lost messages...

Hi all !

For some unknown reason, the listserver set my address to POSTPONE a few
days ago, and before I realized and fixed this, a few more days had elapsed.
So I have not received any message between those shown here:

PenneyA@aol.com  Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:18:43 -0400 (AST)

(................)

"Vincent & Veronique" <osele@worldnet.fr> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 03:03:15
-0400 (AST)

Would anybody be so kind to ZIP the lost messages into a file and send it as
an attachment to my mailbox ? But PLEASE: let me know _in advance_ that you
are willing to do it, and I'll say "Yes, please" to ONE of you, and "No,
thanks" to the others....

-Who will be the lucky one ? BINGO !! :-)

Thanks alot.

Roberto





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:02:16 -0400 (AST)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re: Origami-L: Pentas AND Modules AND School

Mark Casida wrote:

>>
>> Does anyone know of origami used to teach chemistry?  I seem
>> to remember a Japanese colleague mentionning to me that his
>> chemistry teacher in Japan did something of the sort but I
>> really don't know any details.

I am a chemist, but don't use origami for teaching. However, I can give some

1) A number of articles have appeared in the Journal of Chemical Education,
featuring the use of paperfolding techniques to build geometrical models of
complex chemical structures. Details on request (these will also be given in
a forthcoming issue of British Origami).

2) Shuzo Fujimoto, the well known Japanese master, is a chemist too. He has
made several origami models of molecular and crystal structures. I got
photos from him, some years ago, and I seem to recall that a few such models
are featured in his books (in Japanese !). I can check these, but need some
time....

Roberto





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:01:15 -0400 (AST)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re: ASCII diagram

Vincent,

At 03.03 29/1/1997 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Here is a sample fold. I don't know who create this, and you ?

I have been using this bag-fold for years, but have no idea of its
the people responsible of some big store (or a chain of stores) to print
these folding instructions on their bags, which are usually customized with
the company's name: this would sound very "ecological" as it means saving a
lot of space at home, an original publicity for the store and a good
publicity for origami.

Roberto





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:27:48 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: c60?

RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk> sez

>So far as I am aware there are no
>commercial applications for C60

That's because the average album lasts 45 minutes, so you getter better
value from a C90 cassette.

all the best,

Nick Robinson ;)

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
work mail       nick@rpmrecords.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/nick
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
DART homepage   http://www.shef.ac.uk/uni/projects/oip/dart/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:50:02 -0400 (AST)
From: Vincent & Veronique <osele@worldnet.fr>
Subject: Windows 95

Hello origamians,

Why spoke about win95 in ori-L ?

Because Win95 fold too. When you close MS News, this soft compress
the old news, and a small animation show a stack of paper (letter or
A4), fold in half the first page, fold in half again, and then put it
on an other stack.

funny !

Vincent
 _______                                                     _____
|       | Osele Vincent (Toulouse/France) Membre du MFPP    /|    |
|       | osele@worldnet.fr                                /_|    |
|       | http://www.worldnet.fr/~osele/origami.htm       |       |
|_______| -----------------> ORIGAMI -------------------> |_______|





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:56:26 -0400 (AST)
From: hull@MATH.URI.EDU
Subject: Origami Sighting/Gratuitous Self-Plug

Hey fold people!

        OK, I was hoping someone ELSE would mention this, because it's
kinda arrogant to draw attention to it myslef, but there's an origami
sighting in the February issue of Yankee Magazine.  It's on page 22 in
their "New England Sampler" section, and it's about yours truly!  The blurb
is titled "Origami Man" and talks about how I do origami-math at the Univ.
of Rhode Island.  The author managed to not mangle the math terms, but the
text is rampant with hair-raising sentances like, "Tom can not only make a
butterfly out of a dollar bill in seconds, but he's also an ace at opening
a travel map."  Gack!
        But check it out, if you can. (I don't know if Yankee Magazine -
a little journal about things New Englandish - is distributed nationally.)
There's a nifty color photo of myself with my 810-piece Buckyball-type
sphere (with a perfect 3-coloring!) and the Hull/Ow 5 Intersecting Tetrahedra.
Fun!

---------- Tom "prostitute for PR" Hull
            hull@math.uri.edu





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:52:59 -0400 (AST)
From: Pam and/or Namir <pgraben@umich.edu>
Subject: OftC translation

Hey all.  I have this copy of Origami for the Connoisseur and I've been using it
for awhile now without any hitches, even though my copy is in Japanese!

I was wondering if anyone has the English version, if they could copy down
the written instructions on page 14 on the section titled: How to Make Flebel's
(Froibel?) Square Paper.

I would like to include it in Zack's Origami FYI.

Thanks...Namir

!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
Pamela Graben:     Thinking... what a concept!
Namir Gharaibeh:  "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
pgraben@umich.edu





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 19:18:25 -0400 (AST)
From: Preaux cyrille <preaux@univ-lyon1.fr>
Subject: Re: BOS mag?

paular@pdp.usu.edu wrote:
>
> I'm new here.  What is the BOS magazine?
>
good question, I wonder to a few weeks ago, see the web page of Nick
Robinson http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/ for answer.

Cyrille Preaux.





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 19:18:01 -0400 (AST)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: Re: OftC translation

Dear Namir:

        I'd be willing to accept a Japanese version of OftC since it is out
of the question to obtain one in English.  Do you know where it might be
available?
 ///,        ////
 \  /,      /  >.
  \  /,   _/  /.
   \_  /_/   /.
    \__/_   <
    /<<< \_\_
   /,)^>>_._ \
   (/   \\ /\\\
        // ````
 ======((`=======

Just my $.02!

Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com
Bend, Oregon





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 19:43:16 -0400 (AST)
From: Kim Best <kim.best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: BOS mag?

paular@pdp.usu.edu wrote:
>
> I'm new here.  What is the BOS magazine?
>

It's the business magazine you put on the outside of the magazine your
really reading, so that the boss doesn't know you're reading trash.
Sorta the same idea as the BOS key on some computer games.

Ok..  It's the membership magazine put out by the British Origami
Society.

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 19:48:29 -0400 (AST)
From: Jessica Starbuck <s405759@gettysburg.edu>
Subject: Re: OftC translation

I would like to have my name removed from this list.  I have been trying to
contact people all day about this but have gotten no response.  Who should I
write to have my address removed?  Jessica Starbuck
At 07:18 PM 1/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Dear Namir:
>
>        I'd be willing to accept a Japanese version of OftC since it is out
>of the question to obtain one in English.  Do you know where it might be
>available?
> ///,        ////
> \  /,      /  >.
>  \  /,   _/  /.
>   \_  /_/   /.
>    \__/_   <
>    /<<< \_\_
>   /,)^>>_._ \
>   (/   \\ /\\\
>        // ````
> ======((`=======
>
>Just my $.02!
>
>Steve Woodmansee
>stevew@empnet.com
>Bend, Oregon





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:00:47 -0400 (AST)
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re:How you got started in Origami

Thanks to all of you who sent how I got started stories.  Keep them cominag
if you have not told us yours....Dorigami





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:41:51 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Windows 95

On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Vincent & Veronique wrote:

=Because Win95 fold too. When you close MS News, this soft compress
=the old news, and a small animation show a stack of paper (letter or
=A4), fold in half the first page, fold in half again, and then put it
=on an other stack.

Also, the new animated GIF editor that was released by Microsoft contains a
sample animation of a letter that is folded into a paper airplane which then
flies around.

          Joseph Wu           Faith: When you have come to the end of all the
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   light that you know and need to step into the
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  darkness of the unknown, Faith is knowing that
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami one of two things will happen: either there will
 Webmaster, DATT Japan Inc.   be something solid to stand on or you will be
    http://www.datt.co.jp     taught how to fly.                --Anonymous





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:48:32 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: OftC translation

On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Steve Woodmansee wrote:

=        I'd be willing to accept a Japanese version of OftC since it is out
=of the question to obtain one in English.  Do you know where it might be
=available?

I hope you'll excuse me if I laugh...8) One of the items I reported on last
year after returning from the Origami Tanteidan Convention was that a copy of
"Top Origami" (the original J version of OftC) was sold on auction for 25000
yen (just under US$250 at the time). It's out of print, too...

          Joseph Wu           Faith: When you have come to the end of all the
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   light that you know and need to step into the
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  darkness of the unknown, Faith is knowing that
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami one of two things will happen: either there will
 Webmaster, DATT Japan Inc.   be something solid to stand on or you will be
    http://www.datt.co.jp     taught how to fly.                --Anonymous





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:53:20 -0400 (AST)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re: OftC translation

Hi!
At 18.53 30/1/1997 -0400, you wrote:

>I was wondering if anyone has the English version, if they could copy down
>the written instructions on page 14 on the section titled: How to Make Flebel's
>(Froibel?) Square Paper.

The instructions are (from left to right and from top to bottom):
===============================
"Making Froebel's Square"

Fold an irregularly shaped piece of paper roughly in half

Fold the upper double layer as shown

Make a notch in the paper with scissors

(note)
(This process for making a square piece of paper is based on material found
on pp. 716-717, vol. 4, of a Japanese - language version of the collected
works of Friedrich Froebel, published by the Tamagawa University Press in 1981)

A regular tetragonal piece of paper

Return the upper double layer to its former position. Cut on a straight line
connecting the notches. Unfold and flatten.

====================================
Roberto





Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:38:08 -0400 (AST)
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: New Thread

In addition to How I got started, it would be interesting to know how you
 all use origami nowadays.  Do you teach, design, market, socialize with it,
are you into magic and use it in your act.  Let us know so that we can share
with each other.  I teach in schools, sr. groups, Parks, camps, bookstores,
socialize with it, do magic tricks, show off some like I guess most of us
 etc., etc., etc.  Money folding is my thing and I teach the money roses a
lot.  People love that.  Let us hear from you some more......Dorigami.





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 02:03:55 -0400 (AST)
From: Kenny1414@aol.com
Subject: Re: Folding modulars with slick/slippery paper.

In a message dated 97-01-30 14:37:05 EST, you write:

<< I have undertaken a couple of projects along the lines of candy wrappers
and
 other non-traditional origami papers.  I'll pass along two tips that have
 helped me:

         1.      Iron the paper.  It gets rid of the wrinkles and if you cool
 it afterwards (yes, in the fridge) it is a little easier to
 fold with.
         2.      Use paper clips.  (this ought to get me flamed for days).
 Sometimes floppy papers are very hard to build modulars with,
 but ironically the completed model holds together pretty well.
  >>

I haven't tried folding the plasticky candy wrappers, but the ironing sounds
neat. Wonder if it works with foil chocolate wrappers?

I, too have used paperclips for modulars. Also used sticky notes to
temporarily hold a modular while under construction.





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:49:21 -0400 (AST)
From: Lisa.Hodsdon/McDougal/hmco@Owl.nstn.ca
Subject: Re:How you got started in Origami

>Thanks to all of you who sent how I got started stories.  Keep them coming
>if you have not told us yours....Dorigami

Dorigami--

Are you going to include the "someone signed me up as a joke and I *really*
don't
want to be here--**please** get me away from these weirdos" start-up story?

I would love to think that somewhere out there among the lurkers is someone
who didn't *ask* to be on the list, but liked it and stayed and started folding.

Lisa (recently demoted from 10th grade math to 6th grade math)
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com
Boston, MA





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:18:51 -0400 (AST)
From: Jean Villemaire <boyer@videotron.ca>
Subject: News from Origami-Montreal

Dear friends,

Last Friday, Jan 24th, we held our third meeting. We found a new location
with a cool atmosphere.  One of us had brought chinese music, another one
shared a delicious cake while outside, snowstorm was taking place.  We met
new members and while there were many books and foldings displayed, three of
us had brought new models: an orchid by Patrick Gonzalez, diagrams of which
you can see on our page (PDF), a turtle by Gerard Blais who didn't have time
to diagram yet and a birdling by myself, Jean Villemaire, with hand-drawn
diagrams we didn't scan yet (but will we?).

The orchid created by Patrick is one of CYMBIDIUM species, I was told, that
would usually be of pale, pastel color, sometimes white with shade off color.
 It grows by clusters 15in/40cm longand flowering takes place on three or
four months.  With a sheet of 6X6in/15X15cm, one can fold a 4in/10cm spread
flower that would match actual size.

Diagrams on our page are in PDF.  You can get a free PDF Reader with Netscape
3.0 or Adobe's Acrobat:

        http://home.netscape.com/
        http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html

Come and visit us.  There's no shoveling to do in our pages. ;-)

                     ___________________
                     |                 |
                     |                 |
                     |                 |
                     |      }---{      |
                     |      |0 ,0      |
                     |     /'\   \     |
                     |    |'''|  |     |
                       |    |'  /  /     |
                     |____|  /_ /______|
Jean Villemaire              |/-/"-"-|       Snowy Owl,
Montreal, QUEBEC             |       |       our national aviary symbol
boyer@videotron.ca           |_______|       in Quebec





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:08:39 -0400 (AST)
From: Gonzalez Patrick <gonzalep@plgcn.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: News from Origami-Montreal

Well I should have told you before Jean and
I am sorry for it. The actual format of the diagrams
is EPSF (encapsulated postscript file) generated
by FreeHand 4.0. They are not PDF. They should print
fine if sent to a postscript printer though (one
migth need to add a showpage command at the end of the file).
Yet, I am not familiar with Acrobat. Perhaps Acrobat
is able to read raw ESPF files (this would not surprize
me since both format were created by the same company)?

Bye.

| Patrick Gonzalez                                   |
| Dpt de sciences economiques --- CRDE               |
| Universite de Montreal gonzalep@plgcn.umontreal.ca |
|      http://tornade.ere.umontreal.ca/~gonzalep     |

On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Jean Villemaire wrote:

> Dear friends,

(...)

> Diagrams on our page are in PDF.  You can get a free PDF Reader with Netscape
> 3.0 or Adobe's Acrobat:
>
>       http://home.netscape.com/
>       http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html
>
> Come and visit us.  There's no shoveling to do in our pages. ;-)
>
>
>
>                ___________________
>                |                 |
>                |                 |
>                |                 |
>                |      }---{      |
>                |      |0 ,0      |
>                |     /'\   \     |
>                |    |'''|  |     |
>                    |    |'  /  /     |
>                |____|  /_ /______|
> Jean Villemaire                  |/-/"-"-|       Snowy Owl,
> Montreal, QUEBEC           |       |       our national aviary symbol
> boyer@videotron.ca         |_______|       in Quebec





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:11:47 -0400 (AST)
From: Dimmis <bleu@epsilon.enet.gr>
Subject: NewComer

Hello to all Origamians out there.

I live in Greece, and believe me, Origami here is not a well known art. I
was folding papers ever sinse I was a kid, but the real folding started as
soon as I joined the internet about 4 years ago. Doing a search for the
keyword "Origami", got me into several pages with models, history,
bibliography etc.
Now I have a lot of books for origami [only by ordering ofcource] and I
have manage to fold some pretty difficult models of Montrol and Lang.
The bad thing is that I cannot find origami paper here in Greece, so I
usually use newspaper paper. I found it very good to fold, even though
after a couple of months the model is beyopnd regocnition cause the paper
is starting to unfold by itself. The good thing is that I am working in a
newspaper, so I have tons of paper, before printing ofcource, free.
I manage to get some origami paper in a bookshop in London, but the size is
very small. I try to contact BOS so to give me a list of shops that sells
this kind of paper, but so far I had no answer. So if anyone knows, just
let me know. I travel a lot to London, so I will get plenty of paper as
soon as I go there again.
Thats my story of Origami

Happy folding to all of you

Dimmis Petrides
Graphic Designer HND

bleu@hol.gr
bleu@epsilon.enet.gr
http://users.hol.gr/~bleu





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:14:11 -0400 (AST)
From: Holmes David EXC IS CH <holmes@chbs.ciba.com>
Subject: Dave's Origami website

Hi everyone,

After much messing around, trying to decide how best to use my
GeoCities web account I've decided it should focus *solely* on
Origami (well it *is* in the Tokyo district, after all 8^)

It's not 'Netscape-enhanced' or whatever; I had experimented with
tables but after a while I had to start putting comments in the HTML
in order to understand the table tags - and I don't even comment my
own Perl code!

So, what do I have on the site at the moment.

I've included a list of my Origami creations to date; they're only
simple to low-intermediate though, so don't hold your breath 8^)
and there is also a list of my Origami book collection.

As it says within the pages, I'm trying to diagram the models but
I'm not finding it easy.  When there are any diagrams available, I'll
post a message here.  Also, photos of said models are a bit scarce
as well.  That will change soon...

Please take the time to have a look at my site, the address is:

    http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162

Tell me what you think, and whether it displays OK in your browser.

Thank you.

Dave

--
David M Holmes - Internet/Intranet Infrastructure, Novartis
(work)<holmes@chbs.ciba.com>
(fun) <david.holmes@bigfoot.com>
Dave's Origami <http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162>





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:12:43 -0400 (AST)
From: paular@pdp.usu.edu
Subject: Re: News from Origami-Montreal

> Come and visit us.  There's no shoveling to do in our pages.

I'd love to.  What's the URL?

Paula Hogan Larsen
Assistant University Editor
paular@pdp.usu.edu
797-0220

***********************************************************
Eat one live toad the first thing in the morning
and nothing worse will happen to you the rest of the day.





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:00:24 -0400 (AST)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Folding modulars with slick/slippery paper.

<< Iron the paper.  It gets rid of the wrinkles and if you cool
<< it afterwards (yes, in the fridge) it is a little easier to
<< fold with.

Yes, well if it is chocolate bar wrappers you're ironing, you'll
probably get chocolate on the iron.  :-)

I lay the wrappers foil side down on a slick smooth surface
(countertop, etc.) and rub the paper side with a piece of paper
towel. This flattens them nicely, and all the chocolate remnants
end up on the paper towel...

--valerie





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:51:27 -0400 (AST)
From: Pam and/or Namir <pgraben@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: OftC

>        I'd be willing to accept a Japanese version of OftC since it is out
>of the question to obtain one in English.  Do you know where it might be
>available?
>
>Steve Woodmansee
>stevew@empnet.com
>Bend, Oregon

Steve, I got my copy about a year ago in a Japanese general store.  I
believe it is
out of print by now.  I just hit it by dumb, blind luck.

-Namir

!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
Pamela Graben:     Thinking... what a concept!
Namir Gharaibeh:  "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
pgraben@umich.edu





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:56:40 -0400 (AST)
From: Pam and/or Namir <pgraben@umich.edu>
Subject: Square translation

I wanted to thank everyone who answered my plea about the translation
for the square in OftC!

-Namir

!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
Pamela Graben:     Thinking... what a concept!
Namir Gharaibeh:  "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
pgraben@umich.edu





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:30:56 -0400 (AST)
From: Holmes David EXC IS CH <holmes@chbs.ciba.com>
Subject: RE: OftC

> Steve, I got my copy about a year ago in a Japanese general store.  I
> believe it is
> out of print by now.  I just hit it by dumb, blind luck.
>
> -Namir

I also managed to track down a copy, in England about a year ago,
after Gordon Crane provided a lead on this list.  I had to ring
a few places first, but eventually found them being sold by a
company called Biblios.

I say 'them' because they had about seven copies left.  I gave the
details out on the list, and would be interested to know if anyone
else was able to get one from there as a result.

I just did a search of the origami-l archives at Alex Bateman's site
(http://www.mrc-cpe.cam.ac.uk/jong/agb/origami.html) and found my
original post, so here are the details of Biblios:

    Biblios, Star Road, Partridge Green, West Sussex, RH13 8LD, UK
    Telephone: 01403 710971

    Credit cards, or cheques payable to Biblios.

I don't know if they post abroad, but remember this was May last
year, so they have probably all sold.  You can always try though.

Dave

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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:36:23 -0400 (AST)
From: jtweres@lucent.com
Subject: Re: ASCII diagram

i must have missed the ASCII diagrams for a bag-fold

could someone please email me a copy

thanks in advance

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 /=-= jack thomas weres                         jtweres@lucent.com =-=\
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"Let Go and Let Fold"                             "One Crease At A Time"





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:58:32 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: BOS mag?

paular@pdp.usu.edu sez

>I'm new here.  What is the BOS magazine?

The official mag of the British Origami Society - check out our web site
(address below) & then join us!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:30:39 -0400 (AST)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: Re: Folding modulars with slick/slippery paper.

At 02:04 AM 1/31/97 -0400, you wrote:
(snip)...>I haven't tried folding the plasticky candy wrappers, but the
ironing sounds neat. Wonder if it works with foil chocolate wrappers?
>
Actually with foil it works especially well!  It gets rid of the creases and
restores a lot of shine to the paper.  You just have to be careful if
there's too much wax content in the paper, it melts and can glob up your iron.

How's your project going?

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Just my $.02!

Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com
Bend, Oregon





Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:55:49 -0400 (AST)
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Japanese package wrapping

My husband sent me the following query, so I am passing it on to the
list.  Can anyone help

        --  Jeannine

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:43:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Allan Wechsler
To: j9
Subject: Package wrapping

Perhaps you can ask the Japanese people on Origami-L.  My boss David
Katsuki says that storekeepers in Japan wrap packages in a completely
different way than it is done here.  He tried to demonstrate but I
didn't really get the idea.  Even rectangular packages are placed on
rectangular paper at a slant; the result is asymmetrical but with
interesting esthetic and possibly structural properties David couldn't
verbalize.

Can you elicit a brief monograph on Japanese package-wrapping
practice?

-A
