




Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:52:49 -0400 (AST)
From: cathypl@generation.net (Cathy Palmer-Lister)
Subject: Re: Decorating Origami, etc

...............
>Cathy Palmer-Lister talked of painting a completed model. I would have to
>say the results would be much better if the paint were applied prior to
>folding (glaze is best applied afterwards. i am not suggesting she should
>unfold her models, but it is good to know that for most foldes, each
>successive attempt comes out better than the previous one.
........
>
>This argument does not exaxctly follow the the origami scenario in
>question. Colour does not necessarily detract from form; in fact, over the
>right background, colour will better define a models form. I thought the
>issue here wasa of picking out patterns annd painting in a model's features.

Actually, I think the results I had in mind are not that far off from either
of your suggestions.  Colour should NOT detract from form.  If it does, then
it wasn't applied properly.  Think of cosmetics.  Though often used to hide
what the wearers consider their blemishes, in fact it usually does just the
opposite if the wearer is concentrating on blemishes.  It should be used to
highlight the best features.  (BTW, I never wear makeup except as a Klingon,
weird, eh?  I decorate everything and anything, but when I look in a mirror
I want to see ME)

        I have friends who build model ships, and paint little lead figures
etc.  When I watch them at work, I see that we have so much in common.  In
fact, some of them have got interested in origami, and I have tried my hand
at building models.  What I would really like to do with my horse and lion
is paint them solid colours with an air brush.  They would, I hope, come out
looking like terra cotta, but in different shades of brown.  I don't want
them to try masquerading as terra cotta, that sort of thing never works.  I
haven't really put serious thought into it as the acquisition of air brush
and compressors, etc, is not a priority in my budget.
        I also think that one has to consider what one has planned for a
model before decorating, or even before folding, when you choose the paper.
I never understood why people worried about fading papers until I learned
that there were actually expositions and conventions for origami.  I show
off a model here or there, and then it gets trashed or given away.
Obviously, if one is showing work to a convention of paper folders, one is
looking to show off different aspects of the work than if one is showing off
a Bird of Prey at a Sci-fi convention.  The lion and flying horse I made to
illustrate a scene from the Chronicles of Narnia.  It is going to
(hopefully) inspire a bunch of 10 year-olds.  It is also going to be loved
to death.  I folded all of John Montroll's dinosaurs, but you should see
them now.  There's no use telling kids not to touch, they need to touch,
it's their way of learning.

        Speaking of the dinos reminds me of when I showed the book to the
friend who works with miniatures.  He was impressed by the T-Rex.  I told
him it was too difficult for a total novice, but Klingons love a challenge.
In less time than it's taken me to type this, he had folded a perfect
Montroll T-Rex which would comfortably fit into a match box.  He then went
on to fold a perfect little steg, and then a triceratops.  I was stunned, to
say the least.  Mark had never folded anything since he was taught how to
fold a crane in Cubs many, many years ago.  I was busy with a houseful of
guests and never gave him any help--he told me he just followed the
pictures, he didn't understand all the terminology.  The mind boggles.  When
I recently showed him the winged dragon, he promptly folded one about the
size of a match head.  It had to be put into a pill bottle so it wouldn't
get lost.

                                                        Cathy





Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:49:38 -0400 (AST)
From: Basyrett@aol.com
Subject: Re: beginner's models

HI These are my favorite folds for beginners:
cup
magazine box
jumping frog
sailboat
Basyrett, Long Beach NY





Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:46:43 -0400 (AST)
From: Marcia Mau <marcia.mau@pressroom.com>
Subject: Origami Sighting

Joseph Wu's web site is cited as "Best Site for the idle, yet skilled of
hand" in A Magazine's Dec 96/Jan 97 Virtual Sidewalk Department.  Two of his
models, Winged Ant and Manticore illustrate the article.  Congratulations,
Joseph!

Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA
marcia.mau@pressroom.com





Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:59:23 -0400 (AST)
From: Josh Draper <drape@dform.com>
Subject: Re: beginner's models

Thanks for responding. Can you reccomend a book for these models?

-Josh

At 05:49 PM 12/24/96 -0400, you wrote:
>HI These are my favorite folds for beginners:
>cup
>magazine box
>jumping frog
>sailboat
>Basyrett, Long Beach NY





Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 19:33:00 -0400 (AST)
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: need to contact Jeremy Schafer

Hello all,

  I am trying to contact Jeremy Shafer, I thought he was on this list
  but I couldn't find his name.  If you are reading this could you please
  contact me?  Thanks.
  dzander@solaria.sol.net

--
 Douglas Zander                | many things interest me, too many to list
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       | here.  if you want a profile :-)  why not
 Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA     | send me a letter?  tell me about yourself,
 "Over-looking Lake Michigan." | I'll tell you about myself.





Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 23:29:46 -0400 (AST)
From: Charles Knuffke <knuffke@sirius.com>
Subject: Re: need to contact Jeremy Schafer

>Hello all,
>
>  I am trying to contact Jeremy Shafer, I thought he was on this list
>  but I couldn't find his name.  If you are reading this could you please
>  contact me?  Thanks.
>

Just to let the group know, I've sent Douglas an E-Mail with Jeremy's
Address and info about the Bay Area Rapid Folders group, which Jeremy heads
up.

If anyone else wants info, please send me a E-Mail directly, not by
replying to this message. Trying to avoid wasting everyone else's bandwidth
;-)

Regards,

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Charles Knuffke       "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"
153 Divisadero                                  -Jack Kerouac
San Francisco CA 94104
mailto://knuffke@sirius.com





Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 00:24:45 -0400 (AST)
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Holiday Greetings and Web Update

Wishing all of you the happiest of times during the holidays --
It's been a busy year for us and we owe our thanks to many of you for making
1996 a great year.

The past few months have been so busy, that we've gotten behind a little on
the website, but if you haven't visited in a while, then you may have missed
the recent additions.  The easiest way to catch up is to check out the
"Recently Changed Pages" link found right at the top of the main page.

The Artisan Paper section has finally gotten a bit of a facelift - namely
we've finally added the graphics for "almost" all the papers, so that should
keep you busy for a little while :-)

Also, in reading the past messages, there was mention of using quilling
paper for tape folding.  While we do carry quilling paper, we can do much
better.  We now have the "Swedish or German"? Star kits - namely directions,
a completed star, and enough strips to make 24 stars.  The link is a little
buried :-)  Go the Origami Paper page, then choose the "Kits" section.

Things seem to be smoothing out a little so I'm looking forward to being
able to stay in touch a little better :-)

Here's to 1997 be a happy one for all!
        Bren
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Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 12:21:43 -0400 (AST)
From: cathypl@generation.net (Cathy Palmer-Lister)
Subject: Re: beginner's models

>Thanks for responding. Can you reccomend a book for these models?
>
>-Josh
>
>At 05:49 PM 12/24/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>HI These are my favorite folds for beginners:
>>cup
>>magazine box
>>jumping frog
>>sailboat
>>Basyrett, Long Beach NY
>>
>

Hi!

        When I was getting started, a book I really learned a lot from was
Paul Jackson's Classic Origami.

                                                Cathy





Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 13:04:02 -0400 (AST)
From: Vincci Cheng <ww757@freenet.victoria.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: beginner's models

Sorry, I don't think I should ask everyone here, but how do I unsubscribe
the origami mailing list.  It is because I'll be away for probably a week
and I don't want my inbox to have hundreds of mails waiting for me.

Vincci





Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 16:59:28 -0400 (AST)
From: Vincent & Veronique <osele@worldnet.fr>
Subject: Re: beginner's models

Hello,

> From: Josh Draper <drape@dform.com>
> I'm working on 10 different VRML models for the VRML origami project. I'd
> like to ask the list what they think are 10 good models for a beginner
> folder.
> -josh

I always show the dollar-shirt to beginners. It is simple (no reverse
fold, only montain folds), and the result is very good.
Remark that the result is in 2D, not 3D !

Vincent
 _______                                                     _____
|       | Osele Vincent (Toulouse/France) Membre du MFPP    /|    |
|       | osele@worldnet.fr                                /_|    |
|       | http://www.worldnet.fr/~osele/origami.htm       |       |
|_______| -----------------> ORIGAMI -------------------> |_______|





Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:34:10 -0400 (AST)
From: GDScott@aol.com
Subject: beginner's model

I think one of the best books for beginners is The Art of Origami by Gay
Merrill Gross.  It features wonderful color photographs, easy to follow
diagrams and a wide range of items to fold.

I have reviewed this book and currently have some photos and diagrams
available at the Fabric Origami site:  http://www.owt.com/gdscott

Try the folds before you buy the book, they're so simple, yet give big
 results!

Glenda Scott
http://www.owt.com/gdscott





Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 21:55:18 -0400 (AST)
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re:New Years Message

I want to wish all Origami-L friends a very Happy New Year.  Even though the
volume of E-mail about Origami is giving me a nervous breakdown to keep up
with, I love every minute of it, and all of your ideas and suggestions.  You
are simply a wonderful bunch of people and probably the most fun in the
world.  I wish we could all meet and know each other personally.  With great
affection, Dorigami





Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:00:57 -0400 (AST)
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: New model at archives

I just put the diagrams for my model of *Fluffy* in the /origami/incoming
directory of the archives (ftp.rug.nl). There are 7 files there, at about
30kb each. They are all in PDF format (you will need to get the Adobe
Acrobat viewer if you do not have it already http://www.adobe.com/acrobat/
). I know this format is not accessable to all platforms, but I hope can be
viewed by most of you; if anyone needs a special format, let me know, and I
will see what I can do. This model was previously published in the last
Annual Collection (speaking of which, OrigamiUSA can use some more models
for the upcomming collection).

I know a lot of people have already seen this model, but a lot of people
still have not. I thought this would be a good time to post this model, as
the real Fluffy (upon which this model is based), just celebrated his
fourth birthday. This model is at the lower end of the complex scale. If
you were able to fold my *The Missionary* model, this should pose no
problem (a few observant folks have noted that the two models share an
uncanny resemblance in their base structure). Anyway, I hope you all enjoy
this holiday season present.

Marc





Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:58:39 -0400 (AST)
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: New model at archives

Thanks to Charles Knuffke, a more convenient version of the Fluffy files
has been added to the archives. This file, at 97kb, combines all the 7
smaller files into one. Chales had asked me how the smaller files were
created. I took files made in in Freehand 4 and opened them up in the
latest version, Freehand 7. This new version can handle PDF files. It can
also combibine files, but I did not realize it would do this so
efficiently. As an aside, the upgrade price for Frehand Graphics Studio has
been called *the bargain of the century.* If anyone has questions on the
new Freehad (which I have yet to use to create a new file), you can reach
me at:

        marckrsh@pipeline.com

I hope you enjoy the newer, leaner file. Thanks Charles.

Marc





Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:20:07 -0400 (AST)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Snow Crystal (was: Folding from Circular paper).

Way back a long time ago, around about 10 Dec 96, Pat Slider wrote:

>(The other night I folded Lewis Simon's "Snow Crystal", which she included
>in her book "Creative Life With Creative Origami Vol III". This model, from
>hexagonal paper, is quite an impressive Christmas ornament. It really does
>look like a snowflake. And if it didn't have those dozen little sinks, I
>would fold more of them as gifts :->.)

This is a cool model!  The pictures in the book don't do it justice.
White paper, or translucent paper is great.  Haven't tried any foils yet.
I esp. like the way this model looks when made with regular old kitchen
supply wax paper.  Folding wax paper is lot like folding foil, it wants
to crinkle and crumple where you don't want it to.

As to those dozen sinks...  I have found that spread-squashing them works
very well and is quite easy once you get the hang of it.

A great model.  Thanks for mentioning it!

-Doug





Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:33:37 -0400 (AST)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: non-convex paper (Specifically square v. not-square)

Robert Lang seizes the gauntlet with:
+Doug Phillips drops the gauntlet with:
+> What are the characteristics that describe the ideal starting
+> shape(s) for origami?  (justifications here are needed or you could
+> just list the characteristics of a square and circle your way into
+> recursive non-answering. Why does a square, better than any other
+> shape, satisfy those characteristics?
+
+You're asking for a scientific answer to what is ultimately a religious
+question. I can list lots of reasons why a square is a _good_ shape for
+starting; I can't give you any reason why it is _best_.

Ahhh, well, my question goes to finding if there are "any" reasons than
can be compared.  If this is a matter equivalent to "favorite color",
then you are right.  But I suspect it is not...  though I think there is
a lot of unexamind "square worship." ;-)

+So here are some reasons why a square is _good_. It's relatively easy to
+make. Ease of manufacture favors parallel-sided and rectangular shapes; and
+one of the appeals of origami is that the raw material is relatively easy to
+come by.

Interesting cases.  I have found a lot of prepackaged origami "square"
paper is really not square but rectangular.  But I'll grant that it is
easy to get close.  The same (ease of construction, etc.) can be said
for the silver (1:sqrt(2)) rectangle as well.  And square paper is not
all that easy to come by, square note cubes are more often not square.
But of any of the regular polygons, I admit that the square is the most
widely available.

+However, any argument based on geometry or symmetry is going to run into the
+problem that there are other shapes that have interesting geometry or
+symmetry about them. A4 (1:Sqrt[2]) has a lot of interesting symmetries as
+well and there's probably more precut A4 paper in the world than square
+paper.
+
+Or maybe not: there's a lot of Post-It's around these days.

Perhaps, but I have seen a lot more Post-It's in non-square rectangles
than in squares.  I will admit that, in my experience, Post-It's squares
are much more likely to be square than most other square note pads
available.  But 8.5x11 and A4 (and other "A" paper) is, by far, more
abundant.

+Why personally do I fold from squares? When I was younger, I was influenced
+by the stuff I saw in Secrets of Origami and some awesome designs Neal Elias
+sent me, and a lot of the designs were from rectangles, so rectangles seemed
+perfectly okay since that's what the Big Guys were using.

This addresses a key point.  Despite Michael Shall's insistence that
there are no "origami police" (and I quite agree with this attitude),
there is a weight given to the techniques of the current practicing
masters.  But neither historical nor conventional practice is reason
enough for making a rational decision... it is a kin to the parental
"because I said so" with the implicit implication that the one being
spoken-to doesn't have the faculties to make an informed decision for
themselves.

+perfectly okay since that's what the Big Guys were using. And later,
+rectangles were great because I could fold things out of them that I couldn't
+do from squares. And later still, as my design skills improved, designing
+from rectangles began to seem like shooting fish in a barrel (as Jerry has
+observed) and so designing from a square was, and remains, more
+intellectually stimulating to me.

Ah, now that is an interesting reason.  Because it is harder to do.  I
have an affinity for woodworking with handtools for much the same
reason, it isn't too easy.

+This is an important distinction: I don't think there's anything inherently
+better about a square; but there is an established concept, "folding from an
+uncut square", that takes in a lot of origami (though not all), and it is
+intellectually stimulating (two big words that basically mean "fun") to see
+how far one can push this existing concept. And so far, I don't think we're
+anywhere near the limits.

I must agree, so far, with your assesment of the square, as I haven't yet
seen a compelling reason to choose it over any other shape.  The square
and the techniques of bisection (90 degree, 45 degree, 22.5 degree
angles) seem to have been popular for quite a while.  In a semi-recent
issue of the BOS magazine there was an article (of course, I can't find
it now that I am looking for it!) by someone whose name I should know,
that argues for moving one's focus from those symmetries and looking at
the 30, 60, 90 symmetries instead, an under explored area.

+The idea of a square as challenge was raised already.
..
+Carrying this further, even the four corners of a square constitute a "head
+start" on the way to getting appendages. So if we wanted to push this idea a
bit further, an even more appropriate shape, one yet more challenging, would
+be a shape that has no corners at all, i.e...
+
+A circle!
+
+But I guess we've been here before.

Not really!  I think a combination of attitudes has slighted the circle:
    : Creases are always straight, so why bother.
    : Making a square from a circle generates bothersome flaps.

And perhaps because the square hasn't come close to being exploited,
there is a reluctance to explore other starting shapes.  Interestingly
enough, if you look at tessellations and math, the starting shape is
irrelevant.  There should be some interesting feed-back from the stuff
that Chris Palmer, Jeremy Shafer and Tom Hull (among others) have been
doing with twists and tessellations that would apply to "regular"
origami.  Kawasaki's Rose should be just a beginning of such
explorations, but it is almost always treated as a "one-of" or novelty.

-Doug "Off the soap box for a while" Philips





Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 13:40:28 -0400 (AST)
From: "ROSANNA M. FLICKINGER" <as365@traverse.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: beginner's models

On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Josh Draper wrote:

> I'm working on 10 different VRML models for the VRML origami project. I'd
> like to ask the list what they think are 10 good models for a beginner
> folder.
>
> -josh
> ---------------------
> Josh Draper
> Modeler
> drape@dform.com
> dFORM Inc.
> http://www.dform.com/
> 415-357-1555
>
Dear Josh, good luck with your project, sounds like fun... here are some
favourites I have gleaned from years of passing the skill of paper folding
on to young children.
1. cup
2. jumping frog (3x5 card) can be converted into a bunny
3. chair or couch
4. glider
5. baloon
6. star box
7. shrimp (involves some cutting)
8. dollar bill bow tie
9. outfit (shirt and pants or skirt)
10.crane

Never underestimate the abilities of children...I've started many young
people folding and most have far surpassed me in ability and technique.
 --Best Books--
Folding Paper Toys by Shari Lewis and Lillian Oppenheimer
Easy Origami by Nano Dokuotei
Paper Pandas and Jumping Frogs by Florence Temko
Origami Workshop by Gay Merrill Gross
Paper Folded Cut and Sculpted by....I can't remember
And the list goes on...
Sincerely, Rosanna Vreeland-Flickinger





Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 13:58:26 -0400 (AST)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: beginner's model

+I think one of the best books for beginners is The Art of Origami by Gay
+Merrill Gross.  It features wonderful color photographs, easy to follow
+diagrams and a wide range of items to fold.

A great choice!

I also recommend _Origami:_Plain_and_Simple_ by Robert Neale and Thomas Hull.

Neale has some very nice "simple" models here that aren't anywhere else (that
I have been able to find).

-Doug





Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:31:19 -0400 (AST)
From: Sy Chen <sychen@leatherback.nist.gov>
Subject: Sy's web page moved again

Dear Origami friends,

I just moved my page to Erol's internet service. Please update your link to
its new home: http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html

I still don't use the FRAME feature of HTML. Hopefully I will add more
scanned photo's into this account in the near future.

Happy New Year!

Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)
chens@asme.org





Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:13:37 -0400 (AST)
From: Kim Best <Kim.Best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: New model at archives

On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Marc Kirschenbaum wrote:

> I know a lot of people have already seen this model, but a lot of people
> still have not. I thought this would be a good time to post this model, as
> the real Fluffy (upon which this model is based), just celebrated his
> fourth birthday. This model is at the lower end of the complex scale. If
> you were able to fold my *The Missionary* model, this should pose no
> problem (a few observant folks have noted that the two models share an
> uncanny resemblance in their base structure). Anyway, I hope you all enjoy
> this holiday season present.
>
> Marc
>

This is a great model!  I folded it for a female co-worker recently, and
she doesn't hit me nearly as much as she used too!

Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:20:12 -0400 (AST)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: New Home Page

        This is taking all the courage I can muster, but I have a new home
page and I'm inviting everyone to visit.  I've seen so many great Origami
pages from among the members of this list so I'm a little intimidated, but
if you have suggestions for improvement I'll be glad to hear them.  To the
best of my knowledge all of the art I used is in the public domain, except
for the T-Rex, Frog and Crane, and Folding Symbols, which I drew myself
(anyone else is welcome to use this if they want, I'd be flattered!)
        Anyway, see what you think...

        http://www.empnet.com/woodmansee/origami.htm

        Let me see that web counter go up!

Just my $.02!

Steve Woodmansee (really Steve Staples)
stevew@empnet.com
Bend, Oregon





Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:35:30 -0400 (AST)
From: Kim Best <Kim.Best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Circles revisited

On Fri, 27 Dec 1996, Doug Philips wrote:

>   I think a combination of attitudes has slighted the circle:
>     : Creases are always straight, so why bother.
>     : Making a square from a circle generates bothersome flaps.
>

Yes it has!  And if you want to prove it, try folding a traditional crane
from a cirle.  fold exactly as you would from a square, except when you
make the petal folds, valley fold the extra paper outward, so that it
lies on top.

What you get is a traditional crane with a bit more curve in it's wings.
But wait!  Were not done!

Pull outwards on the edges of the extra paper lying on the wings.  this
will cause the wings to balloon a bit, making them look a bit like flower
petals.  Now start pulling out the folds in the tail until you have a
nice ruffled look.  Mountian fold the now curved end of the tail under.

I tried this with, of all things, a coffee filter.  What I got was a very
elegant looking bird in flight.  The thing even flys!  Well... accually
it sorta floats to the ground like a parachute.

The thing is the extra curved flaps are neither bothersome, nor
extranious, but add to the look of the finished model.  This convinces me
that the circle still has a lot of untapped potential.

Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 23:09:45 -0400 (AST)
From: bc808@lafn.org (Karen Liebgott)
Subject: Re: Folding paper made from tissue paper and aluminum foil

>>- Does anyone have any advise about making the paper?
>
>Following some advice I got from members of this list, I experimented this
>summer.  The fumes of the spray adhesive are such that you do not want to
>use the stuff in a closed room, so I haven't done any more of this since the
>cold weather moved in.  Lay the foil out flat on a newspaper or waxed
>paper-covered table, spray as evenly as you can, wait a bit, roll the tissue
>out over the foil.  Repeat on the other side.  I got some interesting
>results by using coloured foil, green tissue on gold foil, for instance.  I
>love working with it as you have the softer look of tissue but the strength
>of foil.

If the pieces are under approx. 15" square (38 cm) I like to lightly lay
the paper on the pre-sprayed foil, then starting from the center, rub in a
circular motion, working my way out to the edges...

          Karen Liebgott    ----  .__o
         bc808@lafn.org    ----- _-\_<,
     Los Angeles-Metro     ---  (*)/'(*)





Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 09:43:14 -0400 (AST)
From: "P.F.C. Blondel" <blondel@sara.nl>
Subject: Re: Sculpture Piece

> For those of you interested in seeing the piece of sculpture I on
> display during my show last month, I have managed to get a decent black
> and white scan of it. It can be seen at:
>
> http://fly.hiwaay.net/~ejcranks/sadako.html
>
> Hopefully, I will soon have a color scan which will illustrate the piece
> as it appeared in the gallery.
>
> Edward Crankshaw

  Hi there,

When I came to the university on december 10th, the callery was empty :-(

bye
     and a happy new year
                           Peter Blondel





Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:23:00 -0400 (AST)
From: dragon@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Subject: 12 days if Christmas

Hi everybody, I trust that everyone had a good Christmas and now looking
forward to 1997.  With all this talk of Christmas I was wondering if
anyone knows of, has folded etc. the 12 days of Christmas?  If anyone
knows where the model is (book) I would appreciate it.  Thanks and have a
Happy New Year.

Lynda





Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:54:20 -0400 (AST)
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: New year greetings.

Today I received a card from Herman van Goubergen with new year
greetings(and the diagrams for his new cat). I thought other folders might
enjoy his wit as much as I did, so here it is with my best wishes to
everyone for the new year.

May your blintzed corners always meet in the middle,your edges line up, may
your frogs always jump, birds always flap,may your sinks, sink and your
swivels, swivel,may your magic tipper always rise, and your te tum te tum
always tum!

John
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 21:48:05 -0400 (AST)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: Corrections to My Home Page

        Hi everyone, several of you let me know that some of my graphic
links weren't working, which I appreciate.  I believe the problems have been
corrected, so please give me another shot, thanks!

        http://www.empnet.com/woodmansee

        Many thanks to all who offered some great suggestions and positive
criticisms.  Keep 'em coming!

        Steve Woodmansee
        Bend, Oregon USA





Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:50:31 -0400 (AST)
From: dzimm@comedy.widget.com (Dave Zimmerman)
Subject: Re: Circles revisited

from 'Kim Best'
>
> I tried this with, of all things, a coffee filter.  What I got was a very
> elegant looking bird in flight.  The thing even flys!  Well... accually
> it sorta floats to the ground like a parachute.
>
Just to get pedantic, and being a skydiver, parachutes do not "float"
to the ground, round parachutes come crashing to the ground with a
bone jaring thud, while "squares" (actually rectangular ram air foils)
come swooping to a long, gracefull, gentle landing, like an airplane.

But I know what you meant.

--
--
\ The    _____
 \  /\  /idget
\ \/  \/ _______        David Zimmerman           The Widget Workshop
 \  /\  /orkshop        dzimm@widget.com          4001 Weston Parkway
  \/  \/    Inc.        919 677 1942              Cary NC 27513
--
An oral contract isn't worth the paper it's printed on.          -- Sam Goldwyn





Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 05:04:30 -0400 (AST)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: New on the Origami Page

Ah, isn't time off from work just great? I've got another load of new
photographs up on the page, including the rest of Eric Joisel's work, some of
the new Robert Lang designs that were shown at the OrigamiUSA convention this
year (thanks to Mette Pederson), and photos from the Origami Tanteidan
convention in Tokyo earlier this year. Enjoy!

(Also, note the cute little JavaScript features!)  8)

          Joseph Wu           Faith: When you have come to the end of all the
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   light that you know and need to step into the
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  darkness of the unknown, Faith is knowing that
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami one of two things will happen: either there will
 Webmaster, DATT Japan Inc.   be something solid to stand on or you will be
    http://www.datt.co.jp     taught how to fly.                --Anonymous





Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:49:47 -0400 (AST)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re: Boats & Ships

Patricia,

At 15.52 17/12/1996 -0400, you wrote:

>One person of the group Amigos del Origami like very much to fold
>ships, boat, rowboat, and he answer me if I know about books of this
>theme. But I do not know the name of any book. Please, if any of you
>know the name of books send me mail privately.

I reply here as it might be of interest to other people.
There is an Italian book devoted to this subject:

Franco Pavarin: "Origami: motoscafi, barche, navi e velieri (Origami:
motorboats, boats, ships and sailing vessels)", published by IL CASTELLO,
Milan, 1990

(BTW, this is the largest Italian publisher of Origami books, mostly
original titles. Address: IL CASTELLO, Via C. Ravizza 16, 20149 MIlan, ITALY)

I can also mention an older Japanese book:

Eiji Nakamura: "Omoshiroi fune no origami: kagaku-suru kokoro o yashinau
tame ni (Interesting origami boats: for development of scientific mind)",
Nichibo Shuppan Sha (Japan Publications), Tokyo 1974, ISBN 0072-17408-6135

It's in the same series as Flying Origami (models from "silver rectangles").

Roberto

Pistoia - Italy





Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:14:15 -0400 (AST)
From: Charles Knuffke <knuffke@sirius.com>
Subject: Re: New year greetings.

(Note: I sent this message last night to Origami-L, but it never appeared
in my mailbox. Apologies if you've already seen it)

John Smith wrote:

>Today I received a card from Herman van Goubergen with new year
>greetings(and the diagrams for his new cat). I thought other folders might
>enjoy his wit as much as I did, so here it is with my best wishes to
>everyone for the new year.
>

Thanks for the wonderful holiday message. Herman's wit is as sharp as his
drawings ;-)

Just wondering about his cat diagrams - did he say where he was planning on
publishing them?

Here's to a wonderful 1997 for all.

Regards.

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Charles Knuffke       "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"
153 Divisadero                                  -Jack Kerouac
San Francisco CA 94104
mailto://knuffke@sirius.com





Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 19:00:35 -0400 (AST)
From: Jean Villemaire <boyer@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Boats & Ships

Robby/Laura/Lisa wrote:
>
> Patricia,
>
> At 15.52 17/12/1996 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >One person of the group Amigos del Origami like very much to fold
> >ships, boat, rowboat, and he answer me if I know about books of this
> >theme. But I do not know the name of any book. Please, if any of you
> >know the name of books send me mail privately.Also, in Brilliant Origami
     from David Brill, a row boat and it's rowers.
(ISBN 0-87040-896-8)
And, in french, by Claudia Hufner, Pliage bateaux et avions (Folding: Boats
and Planes, ISBN 2-215-02180-2) with an incredible pedalo. (Originally in
german, ISBN 3-8068-1410-4.)

Have a good sail and a Happy New Year!

Jean Villemaire
Montreal, Quebec
boyer@videotron.ca





Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 01:27:52 -0400 (AST)
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: need box with lid attached

Hello all,

  I wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction for a box with the
  lid attached (as one piece of paper)  I wonder if any of Fuse's books
  have such a box?  Thanks in advance.

  p.s. yesterday I finished my first model from _Origami Fantasy_
  it took me about 4 hours with a half hour rest.  Is this how long
  it usually takes for anyone else?  I did the Pternodon; is that the
  correct spelling?  Isn't it supposed to be Pteranodon?  Come to think
  about it I found several errors in the diagrams just for this one model.
  Still, don't let that discourage you, _Origami Fantasy_ is a fun book.
  I think the Pternodon was rather easy; just very many easy steps.  And
  another thing, I think it is soooo cool to see the completed models in
  full color photographs, I wish more publishers would do that even if I
  had to pay more.  I just wished *my* finished models looked that cool! :-)
  Gotta go, Happy New Years!

--
 Douglas Zander                | many things interest me, too many to list
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       | here.  if you want a profile :-)  why not
 Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA     | send me a letter?  tell me about yourself,
 "Over-looking Lake Michigan." | I'll tell you about myself.





Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 11:43:53 -0400 (AST)
From: Greg Cymbalist <ae565@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: need box with lid attached

>   I wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction for a box with the
>   lid attached (as one piece of paper)  I wonder if any of Fuse's books
>   have such a box?  Thanks in advance.

I really like the box of this sort in Brill's _Brilliant Origami_.
Starts with a square and is quite easy to do, once you understand the
"tricks".  If the paper is colored on one side and white on the other;
then the inside of the box will be white.  Very nice design.  It wont'
take you 4 hours either. :)

-Greg

|    Greg Cymbalist                                              |
| ae565@freenet.toronto.on.ca                                             |





Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 12:48:14 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Boats & Ships

Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it> sez

>>One person of the group Amigos del Origami like very much to fold
>>ships, boat, rowboat, and he answer me if I know about books of this
>>theme.

Don't forget Momotani's "Origami Vehicles" and Carmel Morris' "Fold your
own Boats"

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email  nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
work mail       nick@rpmrecords.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/nick
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
DART homepage   http://www.shef.ac.uk/uni/projects/oip/dart/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk





Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 12:58:33 -0400 (AST)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: Re: need box with lid attached

At 01:28 AM 1/1/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>  I wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction for a box with the
>  lid attached (as one piece of paper)  I wonder if any of Fuse's books
>  have such a box?  Thanks in advance.
>
        David Brill's book contains several such boxes.  One is called a
'honeymoon box' on page 67, there are a couple of other types as well, one
is meant to look like a box of cigarettes.
        Fascinating Folds carries Brill's book.

Just my $.02!

Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com
Bend, Oregon





Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:05:16 -0400 (AST)
From: GDScott@aol.com
Subject: Re: need box with lid attached

Tomoko Fuse has a book that features attached lids on the boxes or
containers.  However, I can't read Japanese so I have no way to tell you the
name of the book BUT I can give you the ISBN code

ISBN4-480-87143-8
C0076 P1230E

The book is about 7 x 10 inches and one of a series of (3 or 4) books.

Good luck
Glenda Scott
http://www.owt.com/gdscott





Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:12:56 -0400 (AST)
From: Penny Groom <penny@sector.demon.co.uk>
Subject: BOS  overseas members renewals

If you want to renew by credit card and you sent me a number last year
which is still valid there is no need to quote it again.

Just send me a message authorising me to debit your account for your BOS
subscription so that I can print it out and file it.

Happy New Year to ALL of you BOS members or not,

Penny

------------------------------------------
Penny Groom                Membership Secretary
                           British Origami Society
penny@sector.demon.co.uk
Stairwell's homepage.
http://www.sector.demon.co.uk/index.htm





Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:34:02 -0400 (AST)
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: need box with lid attached

Ditto for liking Brill's box.  Looks nice with a Kawasaki rose inside.  [But
please don't ask me about ratios of sizes of paper needed to do this.  I don't
know.  You just have to experiment.  (Good excuse to fold even more.)]

                                          ... Mark
>
> >   I wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction for a box with the
> >   lid attached (as one piece of paper)  I wonder if any of Fuse's books
> >   have such a box?  Thanks in advance.
>
> I really like the box of this sort in Brill's _Brilliant Origami_.
> Starts with a square and is quite easy to do, once you understand the
> "tricks".  If the paper is colored on one side and white on the other;
> then the inside of the box will be white.  Very nice design.  It wont'
> take you 4 hours either. :)
>
> -Greg
>
> |    Greg Cymbalist                                      |
> | ae565@freenet.toronto.on.ca                                             |
>

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:35:27 -0400 (AST)
From: Mark Morden <marmonk@eskimo.com>
Subject: updates to the Origami Olio

I have added some new subpages to the Origami Olio.  The first is one of
original folds that I developed.  These are mostly crosses and a goblet with
a faceted stem.  No diagrams yet.  The other subpage are the "failed
origami" sayings the Jack Weres compiled off this list a few months ago.

I recently purchased Adobe Acrobat so I am working on converting the
existing diagrams on my page to PDF format.  Stay tuned for more updates.

Thanks

Mark

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the Sun
has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it
I see everything else.
                       C.S. Lewis, "The Weight of Glory"





Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 19:23:56 -0400 (AST)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: Re: BOS  overseas members renewals

Dear Penny:

        Could you direct me to where I might sign up for BOS membership via
the internet with a Visa card?  Many thanks in advance for your kind assistance.

Best regards,

Steve Woodmansee
61488 Maid Marian Ct.
Bend, Oregon USA  97702

stevew@empnet.com





Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 20:09:30 -0400 (AST)
From: Michael & Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: need box with lid attached

Douglas Zander wrote:
>   I wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction for a box with the
>   lid attached (as one piece of paper)  I wonder if any of Fuse's books
>   have such a box?  Thanks in advance.

I have a Fuse book ISBN 4-480-87203-5.  I wrote the translated title in it as
     "Boxes in One Piece".  Most of
the boxes are one piece of paper for the top and one for the bottom, as opposed
     to multiple pieces for the top
 or bottom as in most of Fuse's boxes.  However, there are several with
     attached lids: a diamond shaped box, a
rectangular box, a square box, a triangular box, and a hexangonal box that
     looks like a cat's face on the lid.

I got the book a while ago from the OUSA Source:

Origami Source (OUSA Supply center)
c/o Phyllis Meth
40-05 166th St.
Flushing, NY 11358

Janet Hamilton

--
mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj/





Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 21:14:26 -0400 (AST)
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: thanks for all box suggestions

Thanks for all the suggestions, I have three books now to hunt down... :-)





Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:12:50 -0400 (AST)
From: Sy Chen <sychen@leatherback.nist.gov>
Subject: Re: need box with lid attached

At 01:29 AM 1/1/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>  I wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction for a box with the
>  lid attached (as one piece of paper)  I wonder if any of Fuse's books
>  have such a box?  Thanks in advance.
>

Fuse do have one book called "Boxes in One Piece" in Japanese. I don't have
this book.
David Brill's one piece lidded model is one of my favorite. You can find it
either in
* Lidded Cube Box in Origami for the Connoisseur by Kasahara and Takahama.
* Box and Lid in Brilliant Origami by David Brill
* Origami Paper Folding for Fun by Kenneway
with 3 different folding procedures.

Happy New Year!

Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)  chens@asme.org
http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html





Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:25:30 -0400 (AST)
From: Kristine Tomlinson <ktomlinson@platinum.com>
Subject: Early Chronology of Origami In U.S. (Long)

Hi,

Recently I returned to a rare book library to try and track down
early published references to origami -- my findings are in chart form
at the end of this message.  What I found were explanations and
diagrams of models we consider origami from as early as 1795.  Not bad
for only one and a half-day's work!  The three 1795 examples appeared
in a book on magic tricks showing the importance of this genre in
publishing models.  All references from 1795 to the 1870s seem to trace
their origins to earlier works from England.  A list of models popular in the
1830s may be an exception, and will require further research.

Because of limited time, my research strategy was to look at the earliest
magic works which I knew were based on English originals containing
origami.  I also looked at 19th century children's books because they
often have chapters on "legerdemain" or "conjuring", and other paper
activities.  These books showed continuity with earlier published
with updated text, new paper sizes or types, or in some cases,
introduced diagrams which didn't exist in earlier texts. In a book written
for girls in the 1830s, the names of popular models were listed.  It would
be interesting to compare this list to models popular at the same time in
Japan, South America, and other non-English speaking countries.  It will
also be instructive to fill in the gaps from 1795 to the 18th century by
looking at all the magic and children's books in chronological order for the
very first instances of popular models, or when diagrams were added,
and so on.

Kirigami (paper cutting) and what may be kirikomi (folding with simple
cuts) also turned up in works from the early 19th century.  These other
forms of paper crafts are included in the chronology below to provide
context.  Paper cuts as an art in the United States was not part of this
survey.  No doubt it has been well covered elsewhere.

The earliest reference to origami as an activity with its own name was
found in 1832 where the author refers to "folded papers".  This book
may also include the earliest origami anecdote.  While perhaps not the
first reference of business card folding, a folded business card trick
was located in an 1859 magic book.  It is the only one of the origami or
kirigami projects I haven't seen published in the present century; no doubt
it's out there somewhere.

Perhaps the most astonishing discovery is that all of the origami models
survive to the present with very little modification.  Models which use
glue or weaving have been included for their historical interest.  Although
it needs verification, there is some evidence that an origami
money-change trick using one sheet of folded paper was reprinted less
often than the same trick using two sheets of folded paper glued
together.

The chronology and bibliography follow.  There is much more that can be
written about each of these references, but here's a start that may be of
interest to the most readers.  What I did not find is also of interest
historically, and will have to wait for a future time.

Kristine A.L. Tomlinson
ktomlinson@platinum.com
Waltham, MA, USA
1 January 1997

ORIGAMI and KIRIGAMI UNITED STATES CHRONOLOGY

Key:
# verified as the earliest U.S. appearance
^ mentioned only, no instructions, may include cuts
+ a modular, identical folded models woven or glued together

Mention of/Directions                 Was in this        In this
for this Origami model                year ...              book ...
----------------------                      ------------        --------
Money-change trick 1-sheet#     1795                Dean
Money-change trick 2-sheets#   1795                Dean
Trouble-wit#                                1795                Dean
Baskets^                                      1832               Child
Birds^                                           1832               Child
Boat^                                            1832               Child
Chairs^                                         1832               Child
Cocked hat^ (same as below?)   1832               Child
Soldiers' hats^                              1832               Child
Tables^                                         1832               Child
Rosette basket+ (Swedish star)  1832               Child
Paper screens+ (four fans)         1832               Child
Immovable business card trick     1859               Frikell

Directions for                            Was in this        In this
this Kirigami project                   year ...              book ...
----------------------                     ------------        --------
Candle Ornament                       1832               Child
Honeycombs                              1832               Child
The Three Crosses (story)        1832               Child
Cat Jump Thro' Business Card   1859               Frikell

Note: the kirigami projects also survived to the present and one has
been described in Florence Temko's "Kirigami" from the 1960s, and
another on the Origami-l listserver in the past year.  Most of the names in
this chronology are the names used in the books cited, although some
have been modified to better indicate what they refer to (e.g., the 1795
money-change tricks).

Books
-----

Many books which contain these models were looked at, the books cited
below contain either the first verified United States appearance of a
model, or the earliest one located so far (12/31/1996).

Child, Lydia Maria Francis 1802-1880

[Little Girl's Own Book] The Girl's own book, [Boston: Carter and Hendee,
1832?] Copy seen was missing its title page; 1830 copy may also exist.

Dean, Henry 1788-1849

Hocus Pocus; or the whole art of Legerdemain; in perfection, ...
The Eleventh Edition, ... Philadelphia: printed for Mathew Carey, ...,
1795.

Frickell, Wiljalba  1818-1909

The Secret Out: 1000 tricks with cards and other recreations ...,
New York: [no publisher given?], [c1859], 398 pages.





Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:34:01 -0400 (AST)
From: Robert Maldonado <robert_maldonado@csufresno.edu>
Subject: Murray & Rigney

Happy New Year (Western Calendar)!

I picked up a copy of the 1928 edition of Fun with Paper Folding by
W. D. Murray and F. J. Rigney.  I know that it was reprinted by Dover,
but was wondering how rare/common the 28 edition is.  Does anyone
know?  Thanks

Robert Maldonado
Philosophy Dept.
CSU, Fresno
Fresno, CA 93704
robert_maldonado@CSUFresno.edu





Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:19:11 -0400 (AST)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Fr: Styles de pliages (van Goubergen)

>
> Voila un mystere pour moi.  J'ai entendu-dire des pliages merveilleuses
> de M. Van Goubergen (surtout le gecko attrapant une mouche) mais je n'ai
> jamais eu le plaisir de les voir (sans meme mentionner les plier).  Est-ce
> qu'il a publie des diagrammes pour ses modeles ou y a-t-il une site WWW
> ou on peut les voir?

Diagrams for many of Herman van Goubergen's models have been published by
the BOS. Both in past issues of the magazine, and in the 6-monthly
convention packs. I can't recall the full list, but I know I've seen:

Lizard and fly on a wall
cherub
envelope with a wing
little car (propelled by marbles)
gorilla
under water (fish)/over water (swan)

Ever considered joining the BOS? Just drop Penny Groom an email.

Richard K.
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:40:49 -0400 (AST)
From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@zen.it>
Subject: Re: thanks for all box suggestions

Douglas,

At 21.16 1/1/1997 -0400, you wrote:
>Thanks for all the suggestions, I have three books now to hunt down... :-)

Four ! Dave Brill's box was first published in Eric Kenneway's "ORIGAMI -
PAPERFOLDING FOR FUN" (Octopus Books, 1980, ISBN 0-7064-1015-7). A highly
recommendable book with several attractive and tricky models. I don't know
if this is still in print, but there is also a Dutch and an Italian edition.

Roberto





Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 06:55:22 -0400 (AST)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: Re: Early Chronology of Origami In U.S.

Congratulations to Kristine Tomlinson on the results of her researches into
paperfolding history, reported in her posting to Origami-L, yesterday.

Not only has Kristine turned up some very interesting information about
paperfolding in the United States from 1795 onwards, but she has also pointed
the way for other researchers  to follow in her footsteps

I hope that everyone will recognise the importance of Kristine's new and
original research.

David Lister,

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:03:22 -0400 (AST)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: new e-mail address

Hi all, my personal mail address is now running, *please* alter your
address books accordingly! The existing work address will remain in
action, until I get sacked! I'm in the process of unsubbing from one
address & resubbing as the other - fingers crossed!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

Origami, Improvised Guitar, Internet consultancy and Web design!

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/nick
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk





Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:49:57 -0400 (AST)
From: Kristine Tomlinson <ktomlinson@platinum.com>
Subject: Re: Early Chronology of Origami in the U.S.

Many thanks to David Lister for his kind words and encouragement for
research into the early history of origami in the U.S.  It is greatly
appreciated.  Much of the credit, however, goes to the headstart
provided by Eric Kenneway in his "Complete Origami", and to the helpful
staff at the American Antiquarian Society in Worcester, MA, USA.  So
many of you on this list have referred me to Kenneway's work which
contains so many useful angles into origami.

As I've hinted in my earlier message, the U.S. has relied on earlier English
works, and I have many new questions and new English sources to
pass back across the ocean.  I look forward to the continued exchange
of information!   (Now, how about you folks in Canada? :-)

Thanks again,

Kristine Tomlinson
ktomlinson@platinum.com
Waltham, MA, USA





Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 10:58:21 -0400 (AST)
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Decorating Origami

Hello all,

The discussion of adding color to origami has been rather long.  However,
at the risk of making it longer, I found interesting Marc's remark that

> Colour does not necessarily detract from form; in fact, over the
> right background, colour will better define a models form. I thought the
> issue here wasa of picking out atterns annd painting in a model's features.

While I am not sure that this is what he meant, it occurs to me that one
excellent use of color in origami (especially precolored paper) is to
contrast different aspects of folded features.  Of course, this raises
the issue of whether one should want to hide the folds to obtain a clean
final model or whether it isn't better to let the medium speak by
emphasizing that the final model consists of layers of folded paper.
I would think that the latter has at least pedagogical value.
Well known examples of the use of precolored paper to emphasize
origamic structure are:

  1) models which use the white and colored sides of the paper

  2) use of paper with colored corners to emphasize the origins of
     heads, tails, wings, or whatever

  3) other?

                                Mark

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Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 16:03:41 -0400 (AST)
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.UK>
Subject: Re: Early Chronology of Origami In U.S. (Long)

At 01:25 PM 1/2/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Recently I returned to a rare book library to try and track down
>early published references to origami -- my findings are in chart form
>at the end of this message.  What I found were explanations and
>diagrams of models we consider origami from as early as 1795.  Not bad
>for only one and a half-day's work!  The three 1795 examples appeared
>in a book on magic tricks showing the importance of this genre in
>publishing models.

What a wonderful contribution to our studies of the history of paper
folding. Thank you for the time you have spent and your meticulous and
competent reporting. I am very keen to encourage proper research like yours,
and to stop the usual unfounded claptrap that turns up so often in what
people are pleased to call a history of origami.

I think it is worth noticing that paper folding tricks or toys seem to
dominate the earliest references we have found in the West. I have already
reported that the waterbomb seems to be known in many countries and may well
be referred to in theplay the Duchess of Malfi, about 1612 or so. This was
orginally noted by Eric Kenneway.

David Lister and I are hoping soon to study the Harry Price library which
contains some very early books on magic with possibly paper folding items. I
think the details were originally collected by that great researcher Eric
Kenneway, how we miss him.

John
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk
