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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 23:04:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: marckrsh@nyc.pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: Backcoating vs. Wet-Folding (was Re: Wet-Folding + Questions)

On Sep 06, 1996 21:12:58, 'cathypl@generation.net (Cathy Palmer-Lister)'
wrote:

>Okay!  Now I understand where the spray adhesive fits in.  I do want to
try
>tissue foil some day soon, but the cost of the spray is ridiculous for the

>small amount I would use.  I used it years ago for some art projects I was

>working on at the time, I'm sure I did my lungs no good at all.  Do you
wear a
>mask?  Or work outdoors?  I think, I can get my hands on a mask if
necessary.
>It's the sort of thing my husband must have in the factories he sometimes
has
>to work in.

Perhaps I could post a streamlined version of my article on foil-backing to
the archives; for now it is available through The Source (of OrigamiUSA),
in the book titled *Paper Handling Techniques* (along with other great
articles). Just so everyone knows what we are talking about here, the cost
of the spray runs about $7-$12 a can, depending on where you buy it. As
with most art supplies, it is cheaper if you can find what you are looking
for at a hardware or office supplies store. I have never bothered to
calculate how much mileage I could get out of a can; my guess is about 15
or so 18" sqaures. As Cathy strongly hinted at, proper precautions are
important when working with harmful vapors. At the very least, a well
ventelated area should be used when spraying. Also, dust masks offer little
protection against vapors; a gas mask is hat is called for. Since I spray
only occaisionally, I have not made an investment in a mask. I understand
the good ones are over $100. Continuing this issue of cost, the really
expensive part of all of this is the paper I use to back with. I have spent
over $50 in materials on a single model! The *cheapest* good paper I use
runs about $3 for a single 20" x 30" sheet. I use at least two of those for
a single model. The paper incidently, is known as soft Unryu, a handmade
Japanese paper. I only make about one good version of each of my models, so
this cost does not bother me too much. I probably only spend about
$100/year on origami supplies, still cheaper than most other arts.

Marc





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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 23:16:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: marckrsh@nyc.pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: Backcoating paste

On Sep 06, 1996 17:11:02, 'chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)' wrote:

>>
>>I am not sure which of these pastes is the most effective, but I have
never
>>heard of price being an issue for any of them. At least in the formats I
>>have seen, one box of methyl cellulose can easlily last a prolific folder
a
>>couple of years. At that rate of consumption, the price difference is a
>>trivial issue.
>
>
>Well, for some of us, purchase price is *always* an issue....

I hope I did not offend anyone with my statements. I was just trying to
shift the focus of cost to what I felt was more important (quality). If I
am not mistaken, the paste with the preservitives costs a dollar or so
more, and will provide the folder with a model that should hold up better.
Since the supply will last many years, that is like spending only an extra
quarter a year. I would hope that is a trivial difference in cost for most
people.

Marc





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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 23:32:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: james white <jwhite@osha.igs.net>
Subject: Re: Origami Convention pack..

| Sounds like a book I should get, too.  The author is??????

The book is by David Brill
isbn 0-87040-896-8
softcover
$30.95 up here in Canada

Jim
jwhite@osha.igs.net





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 01:38:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: Old thread: Origami "tools"

(I've been meaning to post this for some time)  A while back there was an
interesting thread about origami 'kits' and/or 'tools.'  While I don't want
to recap all the discussion on the moral dilemnas posed by the use of tools
other than fingers, I thought I would share with everyone a teriffic (and
cheap!) tool I've been using a lot of lately: the lowly cuticle stick.

The cuticle stick comes 3-4 to a package and has a pointed end and a
flatter, tapered end.  This has become *extremely* useful in dealing with
tight corners, impossible sinks (closed and opened) and a few other curve
balls thrown by our beloved masters.  I've also found it makes joining
Tomoko Fuse's boxes a breeze!  For those whose consciences will allow, I
heartily recommend adoption of the "origami wand" (formerly known as the
lowly cuticle stick).

"Origami: Welcome to the Fold!"

Steve Woodmansee,
stevew@empnet.com





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:08:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robyn Meyer <rmeyer@netadvantage.com.au>
Subject: Butterfly balloon

Hi people!

I just bought an origami book today called "The Origami Workshop" by Gay =
Merrill Gross. Has anyone seen this or does anyone own it? I love it so =
much but have only had a chance to do a few of the folds. I was just =
wondering if anyone knows any tricks to getting to butterfly balloon to =
work? I decided to try it with (shock horror) glue to see what the shape =
was so that I could then try it without it and have been having big =
trouble even with that...does anyone have any idea how to do it and can =
it be done?

Also, my parents are (lucky them) going to the US for a little while as =
well as England and Germany from October the 1st for six weeks...my =
mother said she would buy me some origami stuff while she is away as it =
might be cheaper other there (of course!) Well I was wondering if anyone =
knows of any good paper and or bookshop that she could get to pretty =
easily to buy me some stuff...I was also wondering if anyone would know =
of some good (cheapish) books that I could as her to buy? Thanks...oh =
yeah, they're going to New York ... not for very long though...they're =
going to both Disneylands and the Epcott (?) centre and Kenedy space =
centre...I'm not too sure where these places are so I can't say the =
names!!! They're going to London and I'm not sure where else there and =
also Berlin in Germany. Thanks for all your help and fold away!!!

Robyn





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 11:07:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michael & Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Rose Diagrams

I have uploaded Winson Chan's diagrams of Kawasaki-san's new rose to the ftp
     site.  They are currently in the
.incoming directory.  They printed fine on the postscript printer at work, so
     good luck everyone.

Janet Hamilton
mikeinnj@concentric.net





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:18:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Butterfly balloon

Robyn wrote:

> I was just =
> wondering if anyone knows any tricks to getting to butterfly balloon to =
> work?

I used "removable tape" to help me hold the pieces together while I was
constructing it.  Once it was done, I removed the tape.

Do I recall that building the butterfly ball in a certain type of box
is also helpful?

Anyway I had fun with the butterfly ball and hope that you do too.

                              ... Mark

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:52:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Re: Butterfly balloon

>I just bought an origami book today called "The Origami Workshop" by Gay =
>Merrill Gross. Has anyone seen this or does anyone own it? I love it so =
>much but have only had a chance to do a few of the folds. I was just =
>wondering if anyone knows any tricks to getting to butterfly balloon to =
>work?

One of Gay's books gives a hint for constructing the butterfly ball in a box
(origami box, of course) and she gives suggestions on the size paper to use
for the box re the size for the ball.  That sounds like a terrific idea --
wish I had known when I was trying to learn the thing!  (I think any box
with sides about 1 inch which is close to the size of one side of the ball
would suffice.  You just need to be able to get in there to work while the
sides of the box prevent collapse.)

I have used paper clips and bobby pins to hold the pieces together.  The
bobby pins are hairpins - not the more horseshoe shaped ones, but the ones
which can serve as skinny paper clips.

If it is any help, I have found that the more of these you put together, the
fewer construction aids you need.  And one more hint: if you let the
finished ball "cure" for about 24 hours so the creases learn their angles,
it is _much_ easier to reassemble after you explode it!  (The 24 hour part
may not be necessary, but some time at the correct angle is definitely
helpful.  And then don't smoosh the pieces as you collect them off the floor!)

This is a model, by the way, which I have taken to calling "origami
fireworks" rather than the butterfly ball.  Just seems more descriptive somehow.

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 14:03:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: spray adhesives & safety

>As Cathy strongly hinted at, proper precautions are
>important when working with harmful vapors. At the very least, a well
>ventelated area should be used when spraying. Also, dust masks offer little
>protection against vapors; a gas mask is hat is called for.

For vapors, I think Marc is probably correct; however with spray adhesives
you also have to be concerned about droplets of adhesive being inhaled.  For
that, an ordinary dust mask can be helpful.  Spraying outdoors can help with
ventilation, but it can also result in unexpected gusts of breeze coming
back into your face. A dust mask might be helpful even outdoors.

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:15:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: reeds@openix.com (Reeds Family)
Subject: Re: origami supplies at Epcot Center and Butterfly balloon

The Gay Merrill Gross book that Carol Hall referred to  is THE ART OF
ORIGAMI (New York: BDD Illustrated Books/Micahel Friedman Publishing Gp,
1993)--a beautiful book, lots of good intermediate models. Butterfly Ball
is on p. 50. P. 52 credits Thoki Yenn with the idea of assembling the 4
interwoven bottom units in a shallow square box--the bottom of the box
slightly larger than the unit square of the butterfly ball, the sides about
1 inch.  Gay suggests using the traditional "masu" measuring box and gives
directions/variations on p 55, 59

At Epcot , the Japanese store had quite a good selection of recent origami
bookswhen we went there in May. Also paper.
Karen
>Hi people!
>
> "The Origami Workshop" by Gay =
>Merrill Gross.  I was just =
>wondering if anyone knows any tricks to getting to butterfly balloon to =
>work?
>
>Also, my parents  going to
>going to both Disneylands and the Epcott (?) centre
>
>Robyn





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 16:36:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michael & Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Butterfly balloon

Casida Mark wrote:
>
> Robyn wrote:
>
> > I was just =
> > wondering if anyone knows any tricks to getting to butterfly balloon to =
> > work?
>
> I used "removable tape" to help me hold the pieces together while I was
> constructing it.  Once it was done, I removed the tape.
>
> Do I recall that building the butterfly ball in a certain type of box
> is also helpful?

Bobby pins work well, too, because they are skinny - I tried paper clips and
     they were too bulky.

Janet Hamilton
Mikeinnj@concentric.net





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 16:45:54 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pat Slider <slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Ansill's Mythical Beings book

>        If the dragon is typical of the designs in this book, it is a must
>have for my collection.  I love that dragon!  I have made him with claws,
>with crest, without crest, with open wings, closed wings...it's fun!
>
I think this model is destined to be a classic (maybe it is already?).

My best success so far has been making this dragon out of a square cut from
the spice packaging of Lundberg rice mixes. The dull silver square is a
little thick, but fun to fold. Not quite sure what this material is....some
kind of foil, paper, plastic laminate. It is quite malleable but has a
duller, smoother look than typical foil. Anyway, I wind up with a nice
little dragon that looks like a small sterling figurine.

The joys of found paper....

pat slider
slider@yosemite.net





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 16:49:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michael & Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Butterfly balloon

Robyn Meyer wrote:
> Also, my parents are (lucky them) going to the US for a little while as
> well as England and Germany
> ...they're
> going to both Disneylands and the Epcott (?) centre and Kenedy space
> centre...I'm not too sure where these places are so I can't say the
> names!!! They're going to London and I'm not sure where else there and
> also Berlin in Germany. Thanks for all your help and fold away!!!

Here's a compilation of places that have been mentioned on this list.  I can't
     personally vouch for any of
them, except Kinokuniya in NY (when I was there in June, they had a couple of
     copies of OftC on the shelves),
and Mitsukoshi in Epcot Center (yes, they had origami paper with the Disney
     characters on it!).

Mitsukoshi Department Store
Japan Pavillion-EPCOT Center
P.O. Box 10000
Lake Buena Vista, FL 32830
(407) 827-8513

Asahiya Bookstores
NYC on Vanderbilt St, west side of Grand Central Station between 42nd and 43rd
     Sts.

Asian Rare Books
175 W. 93rd Street (suite 16-D),
New York NY 10025,  USA,
Fax: +1 - 212 - 3163408,
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/ccs/cuwl/clients/arb/

Five Eggs
436 West Broadway
New York, NY 10003
(212) 226-1606

Jam Envelope & Paper Co.
621 Sixth Ave.
New York, NY 10011
(212) 255-4593

Kate's Paperie
8 West 13 St.
New York, NY 10011
(212) 633-0570

Kinokuniya Bookstore
10 West 49th St.
New York, NY 10020
FAX 212-541-9335
Hours are 10AM to 7:30PM, seven days a week.

Morning Glory,  a chain of Korean stationery stores.
Branches in the metropolitan LA, NY/NJ, Chicago, Seattle,
DC (Annandale, VA), Hawaii and Toronto areas.

New York Central Art Supply Inc.
62 Third Ave.
New York, NY 10003
(212) 473-7705
(800) 950-6111

Oriental Culture Enterprises Co., Inc.
13 - 17 Elizabeth St, Second Floor
NY, NY 10013
Ph. 212-226-8461, FAX 212- 431-6695
Sells Chinese origami books and Korean origami paper

Zen Oriental Bookstore-Tokyo Shoten
521 Fifth Ave.
New York, NY 10175
(212) 697-0840

Zanders (sp?) (in Germany)
'Elephant hide' (or'Elephantenhaut') good for wet-folding

Steinmann art supply in Stuttgart, Germany, located close to
the Hauptbahnhof. Carries "Elefantonhaut" ("elephant hide")
paper, good for wet-folding.

UK
--

Paper Chase, 213 Tottenham Court Road

Faulkners Fine Papers 76 Southampton Row wc1 (superb Japanese papers etc.)

Books Nippon
64-66 St. Paul's Churchyard, London EC4M 8AA
(0171) 248 4956
nearest tube: St. Pauls
At St. Pauls  Churchyard, just beside St. Pauls
Cathedral and St. Pauls tube station.

Muji had a branch on the Carnaby St. side of Liberty, Covent Garden

Liberty, located on Regent St.

Mitsukiki is in varous places

John Maxfield
93 Broadway
Mill Hill
London
NW7 3TG

Japan Centre Bookshop, 212, Piccadilly, LONDON W1V 9LD
[115 Picadilly given as addr by someone else]
(0171) 439 8035
nearest tube: Piccadilly

A bookstore opposite the British Museum, Probsthain & Co.
Oriental booksellers, 41 Great Russell St near Tottenham Ct Rd,
which carried origami books.

Dover bookshop in London. It's at 18, Earlham Street, WC2H 9LN.
close to Covent Garden, around the corner from Neal Street East

Neale Street East   Neale Street - also close to Covent Garden

Paper ??  Exhibition Road, nr. Science Museum

Hatchards in Piccadilly for instance.

Book Ends
1-3 Exhibition Road, South Kensington, LONDON SW7 2HE
(0171) 589 2285
nearest tube: South Kensington

Foyles - Charing Cross Rd

Asahiya at the Yaohan Plaza on Edgeware Rd near Colindale Underground Stn

Janet Hamilton
Mikeinnj@concentric.net





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:10:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pat Slider <slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us>
Subject: Re: origami supplies at Epcot Center and Butterfly balloon

At 03:15 PM 9/7/96 -0300, you wrote:
>The Gay Merrill Gross book that Carol Hall referred to  is THE ART OF
>ORIGAMI (New York: BDD Illustrated Books/Micahel Friedman Publishing Gp,
>1993)--a beautiful book, lots of good intermediate models.

>> "The Origami Workshop" by Gay =
>>Merrill Gross.  I was just =
>>wondering if anyone knows any tricks to getting to butterfly balloon to =
>>work?
tradeback was titled "The Origami Workshop" (Friedman/Fairfax publishers).

Must say, I have always been impressed that even given the extensive color
photographs, decent paper, and large layouts, the large tradeback only cost
me $11.95.

This book and Gay Merrill Gross's other title "Creative Ideas for
Paperfolding" are currently getting remaindered in the Hamilton catalog
right now. Believe the latter title is an import edition (British?) and has
the same price as the list price for the US version though.

pat slider
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:24:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Pam, Namir, or Dima" <pgraben@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: All Done w/ _T. rex_ Skeleton!

Congrats on your finishing, Jerry.  I myself am 2 tailbones away from the
     completion
of a one and a half foot long model, and am eagerly awaiting assambly with
     (sigh) glue.

>        Anyway, this was the first time I've ever folded the model, and
>while it isn't absolutely perfect, I think it turned out quite nicely!

Yes, I plan on calling mine "Skeleton of Tyrannosaurus rex With Advanced
     Osteoperosis" !

I hope I get to see the life size one at the Southeastern Festival.


     -Namir!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!
     -!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!
Pamela Graben:     Thinking... what a concept!
Namir Gharaibeh:  Have you hugged a folder today?
Dima Gharaibeh:   So what do you think of my Buddha?
          pgraben@umich.edu





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 19:03:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Re: Ansill's Mythical Beings book

>My best success so far has been making this dragon out of a square cut from
>the spice packaging of Lundberg rice mixes. The dull silver square is a
>little thick, but fun to fold. Not quite sure what this material is....some
>kind of foil, paper, plastic laminate. It is quite malleable but has a
>duller, smoother look than typical foil. Anyway, I wind up with a nice
>little dragon that looks like a small sterling figurine.

And it probably has an interesting aroma as well!

Carol Hall





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 19:29:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pat Slider <slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Ansill's Mythical Beings book

Are you saying that my origami smells?

Well, I wash the foil/plastic side before cutting it. This side seems
somewhat waterproof. I actually had a model that got too close to the
shower. It was fine.

By the way, I recommend the Lundberg one step chili (veggie of
course)....great in tortillas. We buy it by the case :->.

pat slider

At 07:03 PM 9/7/96 -0300, you wrote:
>>My best success so far has been making this dragon out of a square cut from
>>the spice packaging of Lundberg rice mixes. The dull silver square is a
>>little thick, but fun to fold. Not quite sure what this material is....some
>>kind of foil, paper, plastic laminate. It is quite malleable but has a
>>duller, smoother look than typical foil. Anyway, I wind up with a nice
>>little dragon that looks like a small sterling figurine.
>
>And it probably has an interesting aroma as well!
>
>Carol Hall





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 21:58:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marcia Mau <marcia.mau@pressroom.com>
Subject: Kawamura's Butterfly Ball tips

I stack the modules after folding until assembly.  This results in modules
opened up to the correct angles which makes it easier to assemble.  I start
by assembling an inverted triangle but others sometimes find it easier to
start w/ a square face.  It's hard to describe, but you need to keep
rotating the model to work on  different sides.

I use three colors (4 sheets of each) to make the Butterfly Ball.  Each
indented triangle has three colors (three overlapped small triangles).  Each
square face has 4 large triangles but  looks like 4 small triangles.  The
square faces have two colors, alternating as in red, blue, red, blue.

I prefer the symmetry of 3 color assembly.  Others prefer using 4 colors, 3
sheets of each with each square face made up of 4 colors.

The more times you assemble the same set of 12 pieces, the easier it seems
to put it together.

I gave two Butterfly Balls to Harry and Sylvia Weiss recently.  They were
delighted by the bursting but regret not being able to reassemble it!
Marcia Mau
marcia.mau@pressroom.com





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 22:46:12 -0300 (ADT)
From: James_Sakoda@brown.edu (James M. Sakoda)
Subject: Re: Adobe's Portable Document Format (PDF)

>I have been considering setting up a web page to display some of my
>origami diagrams, and have run into the problem of cost of using JIF or
>JPEG with Netscape to store them.  The reason, of course, is that line
>drawings and text require much more storage space and transmission time
>when treated as a collection of dots on a page. Using a scanner to copy a
>picture or line drawings makes the job of creating a page relatively
>simple.   My understanding is that the use of portable document format can
>correct this situation.  Adobe has taken the lead in providing PDF and is
>providing Acrobat Exchange, Acrobat PDF Writer, Acrobat Search, Adobe Type
>Manager, ATM,  Acrobat Reader as Acribat Exchange  V. 2.1.  The Reader and
>ATM (Adobe Type Manager) sent to the recipient along with the message will
>enable him to read or print messages sent to him in PDF.
>In a recent catalog from CDW (phone 800-549-4239) it was listed  at
>$119.49, with a note that there would be a free upgrade to Acrobat 3.0.
>Next to it was an ad for Acrobat Pro V. 2.1 for $179.41 and included
>Acrobat Exchange V. 2.1 plus
>Distiller and Exchange.   In a catalog from MacConnection there is a
>listing of NEW! Adobe Acrobat Exchange 3.0, which includes Acrobat
>Exchange, Acrobat Distiller, Acrobat Catalog. New Capture Plug-in ($199.95
>for Mac or Windows versions).  It appears that Acrobat 3 replaced Acrobat
>Pro 2.1, which previously had cost close to $500.  It appears that the cost
>of the whole set was reduced, but the option to buy Acrobat Exchange 2
>alone no longer seems to  exist, except for this special offer which
>includes a free Acrobat V3.  My order was back-ordered, but I am hoping
>that it will
>come through, since for the price of the smaller set I can get a free
>update to a more complete one.  I am particularly interested in having
>Distiller, which translates Postscript to PDF, which I believe will be
>useful, but I didn't want to pay close to $500 for its inclusion.
>James M. Sakoda.

        Update of above.  I received a phone call saying that Acrobat V2.1
was no longer available.  I have therefore settled on ordering Acrobat V3.0
from MacConnection at $199, even though it will not be available until
October 1.  Acrobat 3.0 includes all of Acrobat Exchange, Acrobat Distiller
(reads postscript files), Acrobat Catalog (can be useful), and New Capture
Plug-in.  This recognizes a wide range of image formats including TIFF,
DCK, GIF, BMP, and PCK, as well as seven languages.  This addition seems to
me to be an important one.  James M. Sakoda





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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 22:52:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kevin Thorne <c598033@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Kawamura's Butterfly Ball tips

        As I remember it, Gay suggests using some special type or style of
paper (not sure which?) to make the butterfly ball with, but I have found
that regular kami works just fine.  Although when completed it's not as
rigid as when using thicker paper, it won't fall apart.
        The suggestion of using a box to assemble it is good, but I've
found that a cupped palm works jsut as well.  Assemble your first 4 pieces
to make a square side, then place it in one palm and then complete the
model one square face at a time.  The last piece is always the hardest,
but after a few tries it gets easier.

Kevin Thorne

c598033@showme.missouri.edu
Columbia, MO
USA





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 00:32:59 -0300 (ADT)
From: marckrsh@nyc.pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: Adobe's Portable Document Format (PDF)

On Sep 07, 1996 22:46:12, 'James_Sakoda@brown.edu (James M. Sakoda)' wrote:

>
>Update of above.  I received a phone call saying that Acrobat V2.1 was no

>longer available.  I have therefore settled on ordering Acrobat V3.0 from

>MacConnection at $199, even though it will not be available until October
1.
>Acrobat 3.0 includes all of Acrobat Exchange, Acrobat Distiller (reads
>postscript files), Acrobat Catalog (can be useful), and New Capture
Plug-in.
>This recognizes a wide range of image formats including TIFF, DCK, GIF,
BMP,
>and PCK, as well as seven languages.  This addition seems to me to be an
>important one.  James M. Sakoda
>

Continuing along these lines, I have good news for users of Freehand;
version 7 is arriving in a few weeks, and will be very PDF conversant. For
the record. Freehand 6 never existed; I guess Macromedia is skipping over
to version 7 for marketing reasons. The upgrade should cost about $150.
There is also a bundled version, with various internet related and 3-D
modeling tools, but I forgot the cost. If anyone needs more details on all
of this, send me a note to marckrsh@pipeline.com, and I will see what I can
dig up.

Marc





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 02:04:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: halgall@netverk.com.ar
Subject: help!

Hi Everyone,
I need the diagrams of "entreprise" and the Dragon of Joseph Wu,
I can not in any page of origami, I cry inmy service.
Please, If anyone have this diagrans, Thanks very much!!!
please if it is possible, that one of you can this, send me e.mail
privately.
Thanks at all!!! The best fold for all

Patricia Gallo
La Plata Argentina
halgallnetverk.com.ar





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 02:34:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: Chen Jiahao <s1800017@singnet.com.sg>
Subject: Disney paper

> From: Michael & Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Robyn Meyer wrote:
> > Also, my parents are (lucky them) going to the US for a little while as

> > well as England and Germany
>
> and Mitsukoshi in Epcot Center (yes, they had origami paper with the
Disney characters on it!).

But Disney's cartoons are so adorable; who would even dare to fold Mickey
Mouse's face into half? (well, that's my 1/2 cents' worth anyway :-) )
==========
Chen Jiahao
<jiahao@pobox.org.sg>





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 06:04:00 -0300 (ADT)
From: TrekDBob@aol.com
Subject: Re: spray adhesives & safety

not only can unexpected gusts of wind result in inhaling droplets of spray
adhesive, but you also find that your ex-nice looking tissue foil is ahdered
to the lawn chair (or the neighbors fence, or your face... ) AND... gotta
watch out for rain... I had the breeze beat when it started sprinkling...
suddenly the amount of solid color on the tissue paper was much less
solid....  made for some interesting speckled dinosaurs though (too bad they
were sky blue, though)

Dee





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 07:39:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Lauinger,p15" <Lauinger@06.bonn02.telekom400.dbp.de>
Subject: Re: Butterfly balloon

Everybody looking for paper in Germany:

In Berlin (West) there is a little shop called "handmade", =

located in Grollmannstrasse (near Savignyplatz). They have =

handmade paper, perhaps not cheap but...

Zanders is a paper producing company in a small town called =

Bergisch Gladbach (near Cologne). They only sell to shops. =

Zanders' Elephant hide (in German: Elefantenhaut) can be =

bought in nearly every paper shop (Papiergesch=E4ft) or =

office supply shops (Buerobedarf). Some weeks ago I saw a =

bundle of elephant hide, size A4, in a bundle with 30-40 =

sheets for DM 35.00. In size A3 or A 4 the price for one =

sheet is about DM 7.00.

For folding I prefer gift wrapping paper, especially with =

the brand name HERLITZ. One role, size .70 x 1.20 m, costs =

between DM 3.95 and 5.95 (hologram paper in gold, silver, =

light blue and red)

In Berlin (Ku-Damm, near Europcenter and Gedaechtniskirche) =

and Munich (near the famous Rathaus) there is a famous shop =

called "Ludwig Beck am Rathauseck". It sells cloths but =

also gift wrapping paper, very good for folding (1 role =

with 5 m about DM 13.00). The papers have an exquisite =

design (at the moment cow designs are very popular in  =

Germany)

In Duesseldorf, Immermannstrasse, you can find a lot of =

Japanese shops and department stores. They sell origami =

books and origami paper, but they are very expensive. And =

sometimes the collection is better for children. =

As a general advice: In Germany your parents can go in =

nearly every Papiergeschaeft or Geschaeft fuer Buerobedarf. =

They have a good collection of gift wrapping paper. As more =

exclusive the paper as more expensive. In Bonn is little =

paper shop called "Papeterie", it has a very good selection =

 of handmade Asian paper. There is also a drugstore chain =

"Spinnrad" which sells sometimes handmade Philipinian =

paper, price ca. DM 4.50.

Looking for origami books is quite a little bit more =

difficult: Origami is not very popular in Germany. In =

Munich the biggest German bookstore "Hugendubel" has =

sometimes origami books (look in the section "Hobby").
In Berlin the department store "KadeWe" (abbr. Kaufhaus des =

Westens) has a well sorted book section (origami books in =

section "Hobby"). In Berlin, Budapester Strasse near the =

Zoo, and in some other German towns are a bookstore chain =

called "Wohlthat's". This store sells remainded books, =

sometimes  also very cheap origami books.

Good luck and a good journey =

Doris





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 08:53:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: Richard of Foong <ryf@ecr.mu.oz.au>
Subject: Re: Aikido

> Aikido is one kind of Japanese Martial Arts. It is popular in some of
> the European countries.  For someone from sg with last name Chen You
> probably want to know its kanji and Chinese characters:
>
> PS: I am not a Aikido practitioner. Don't ask me more.

isn't it Akido?, or am I wrong. I don't really know for sure, but i
thought it had only one 'i'. Please correct me if im wrong.

Richard.





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 09:07:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: Richard of Foong <ryf@ecr.mu.oz.au>
Subject: Re: Origami Convention pack..

On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Steve Woodmansee wrote:

> schary@VNET.IBM.COM wrote:
> >
> > *** Reply to note of 09/05/96 20:05
> > From: Sreenath Chary
> >
> >   I am thinking of buying the following books...can somebody recommend
> > if they are worthwhile...
> >    Brilliant Origami...How many models in the book? Are they all
> >                        all complex (only to Montroll level please!!).?
>
> This is a superb collection of imaginative and beautiful models I would
> recommend to anyone.  The photograph of the origami dragon and knight
> (complete with shield and lance) on the cover is alone worth the price
> of the book!
>
Woah, I got this just a few days ago... I also recommend it. It has *LOTS*
of models, and that dragon isn't bad either...  good stuff. How much does
it cost in the US?

Richard.





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 09:13:54 -0300 (ADT)
From: Richard of Foong <ryf@ecr.mu.oz.au>
Subject: Re: Origami Convention pack..

On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, james white wrote:

> | Sounds like a book I should get, too.  The author is??????
>
> The book is by David Brill
> isbn 0-87040-896-8
> softcover
> $30.95 up here in Canada
>
$45 down here in Australia... if you would like to know. :)

Richard F.





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 09:15:27 -0300 (ADT)
From: Richard of Foong <ryf@ecr.mu.oz.au>
Subject: Re: Butterfly balloon

Mark wrote:
> Robyn wrote:
>
> > I was just =
> > wondering if anyone knows any tricks to getting to butterfly balloon to =
> > work?
>
> Anyway I had fun with the butterfly ball and hope that you do too.
>
>                               ... Mark

Is that the one where you take ages to build, then you throw it up itn the
air and... bang! explode it with you're hand???
Hope so. thanks for the sticky tape hint :)

Richard F.





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 09:20:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Richard of Foong <ryf@ecr.mu.oz.au>
Subject: Re: help!

On Sun, 8 Sep 1996 halgall@netverk.com.ar wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> I need the diagrams of "entreprise" and the Dragon of Joseph Wu,

<snip>

is "entreprise" the star trek ship, or am i dreaming?

I hope it is.

Richard F.





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:01:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Ann McGrath <mcgrath@enter.net>
Subject: See you later

I'll be unsubscribing until a) we get back from vacation, and b) until I
get my housecleaning (Ugh!) all done. Well, at least get the clutter
under control.

I have enjoyed sharing in all the information and stories posted to the
list. I've been absolutely delighted to read posts by folks that I
consider great folders. I may not post very much, very often, but I have
been reading faithfully.

Until later.
--
Ann A. McGrath          email: mcgrath@enter.net
Jewelry Design          voice: (610)253-7588
Easton, PA 18042        A bead! A bead! My kingdom for a bead!





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 14:58:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: aroma'd origami

>>My best success so far has been making this dragon out of a square cut from
>>the spice packaging of Lundberg rice mixes. The dull silver square is a
>>little thick, but fun to fold. Not quite sure what this material is....some
>>kind of foil, paper, plastic laminate. It is quite malleable but has a
>>duller, smoother look than typical foil. Anyway, I wind up with a nice
>>little dragon that looks like a small sterling figurine.
>
>And it probably has an interesting aroma as well!
>
>Are you saying that my origami smells?
>
Now, now... :-)

Actually, I had never given any thought to coordinating aromas with origami
models, but now that I mention it....  Is chili an appropriate aroma for a
dragon?  What would go with cinnamon?

The closest I've come to this *new and exciting* ( ;-) ) innovation is
filling various sonobe solids with potpourri.  They make adequate sachets if
you can control the size of the holes between units.

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 15:18:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Alex Barber <barber@nol.net>
Subject: Need help with ftp files

I am ready to place new Acrobat files on my site that I converted from
postscript files found on the ftp server. Unfortunately, there are a few
files that do not have any model credit in the diagrams.

I need to track down the creator(s) of the following files/models:

bowlvcnz.ps
dahlia.ps
dricatc.ps
pine.ps
servet1.ps
stand.ps
teadeer.ps
garland1.ps
garland2.ps
garlandk.ps

Thanks
Alex Barber

barber@nol.net | http://www.nol.net/~barber

I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
numbered.  My life is my own.





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 15:26:16 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pat Slider <slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us>
Subject: Re: aroma'd origami

>The closest I've come to this *new and exciting* ( ;-) ) innovation is
>filling various sonobe solids with potpourri.  They make adequate sachets if
>you can control the size of the holes between units.

As I remember, this was the original purpose of kusudama. Doesn't the word
itself mean "medicine ball" or somesuch? I've always wondered how exactly
you fill the units up with herbs, etc...Perhaps the older kusudama models
were designed better for this purpose?

These days you can scent a model with essential oils too. Although they make
a nasty stain on most papers.

pat slider





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 15:27:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@pb.net>
Subject: Re: Kawamura's Butterfly Ball tips

Some time ago, I was able to find a source of neon duo
construction paper. (It was The Price Club which no longer sells it.)
Luckily I bought enough to last. It is actually stiffer and more foldable than
regular construction paper and works beautifully for the butterly
ball.

I assemble the model with different colors on the inside and the
yellow\green neon on the outside. The surprise is that the outside
hardly hints of the bright colors that become evident when exploded.

Additionally, I fill the inside with small triangles of tissue paper
which has been folded in half to resemble a butterly. When the
heavier paper has already reached the ground, the tissue triangles
are still falling so it isn't all over in a blink.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 15:39:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@pb.net>
Subject: Re: Not the butterfly ball, more like fireworks

For the beginners out there, you might want to try this. I discovered
it while trying to come up with an origami Olympic type event (I
called it the high jump).

Out of a six inch square of origami or thicker paper, make a
preliminary base and fill it with several small origami models. I use
the logo boat of OUSA made with a preliminary base and folded just to
form the sails.

For the action, flick your wrists apart sharply causing the boats to 'sail'
up in the air like fireworks.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:48:15 -0300 (ADT)
From: "David M. Phillips" <phillips@qxo.com>
Subject: Re: Aikido

The name Aikido comes from the three characters:  Ai = Harmony;
Ki = Energy or Force; and Do = Way.  So Aikido is the way of
using force in harmony with one's attacher.

Aikido differs from other forms of martial art (in my limited
experience) in that one does not seek to stop an attack through
the use of counter-force, nor to injure ones attacker.  But
rather Aikido seeks to avoid direct confrontation through
redirection of an attacker's force, and do so in such a way as
to blend with the attacker's energy and to avoid seriously
injuring the attacker.  It strikes me as a highly ethical
endeavor.

The Aikido principles of blending and harmonizing have
applications in many (all?) facets of life, so I can understand
why the originator of this thread brought up the parallels with
Origami in his catch phrase, "Aikido is to people as Origami is
--
David M. Phillips 512-288-2887 phillips@qxo.com
QXO Corporation   512-288-1386 Fax
6316 Thomas Springs Rd Austin TX 78736-2321
http://www.onr.com/user/phillips/qxo.html





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:05:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Priya (Kanaka priya Kalyanasundaram)" <priya@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: Enterprise

With due apologies to the creator, a neophyte like me couldnt follow the
hand-written instructions for the enterprise model. Does ANYONE out there
have a better version in postscript or acrobat.
Thanks,
Priya

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
               Whatever you can do or dream, begin it.
               Boldness has genius, power and magic to it
               GOETHE





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:19:02 -0300 (ADT)
From: deg farrelly <ICDEG@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU>
Subject: Changing your personal settings for Origami-L mail

Friends -

This is a little lesson on a the listprocessor for Origami-L.
Apologies to those who are already familiar with these concepts.

Ann McGrath wrote that she was *unsubscribing* from Origami-L
until she got back from vacation.

That is one way of seeing that you do not clog your mailbox while you
are unable to attend to your e-mail for an extended period.

Another way is to change your personal settings with the ListProcessor
(This is not a person, but is the automated computer that receives and
redistributes messages sent to a list.  There are a number of different
ListProcessor software packages that all perform roughly the same
functions but may require slightly different instructions from
subscribers. )

For Origami-L you tell the ListProcessor to *postpone* your mail.  Once
you have done so, you will not receive any other Origami-L postings
until you tell the processor to change your settings again.

When you send a message to change your settings, the ListProcessor sends
back to you a message informing you how your settings have been changed.

The language for the Origami-L ListProcessor is a little more detailed
than for some other list processoras.  Messages to it contain 4 parts:

   function
   name of the list
   option
   argument

All must be present for the instruction to work properly.

To postpone receipt of Origami-L messages, send  an instruction to the
ListProcessor at this address:

   listserver@nstn.ca

Leave the subject line blank,  do not add anything else to the message,
not even your signature.

Write as the first line in the body of your message:

   set origami-l mail postpone

When you wish to *resume* receiving your Origami-L messages, send *one*
of these three messages to the ListProcessor:

   Instruction:                 Tells the Origami-L ListProcessor to:
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

   set origami-l mail ack    -  Send a copy of messages you post to
                                the list to everyone on the list
                                including yourself

   set origami-l mail noack  -  Send a copy of messages you post to
                                list to everyone on the list, but not to
                                yourself

   set origami-l mail digest -  Delay sending you individual messages
                                posted to the list until once a day
                                when all posted messages - including
                                your own - are posted in a *single*
                                message.  The Digest also includes a
                                listing of the messages with sender's
                                e-mail address and subject of each.

For more information on other functions of the ListProcessor for
Origami-L, send the listprocessor the message:  help

You will receive back a listing of other settings you can change
and instructions how to do so.

Hope that some of you find this information useful.

o)-(

Stickman

deg farrelly
1601 West Sunnyside Drive, #115       E-Mail:  deg@asu.edu
Phoenix, Arizona  85029               Phone:   602.943.8175





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:47:54 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marcia Mau <marcia.mau@pressroom.com>
Subject: More Butterfly Ball tips

I forgot to mention I use memo cube paper such as Astrobrites or the swirl
cubes or refills to make the modules.  Available at CVS, Office Depot,
Staples and formerly The Price Club/Costco.

I've also inserted a pair of red origami shoes for a friend who retired in
Kansas and another time, the Chinese lucky pentagonal stars for a pinata effect.

I seem to recall Kenneth Kawamura is from Hawaii.  Does anyone know if he is
a Sansei?
Marcia Mau
marcia.mau@pressroom.com





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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:07:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: schary@VNET.IBM.COM
Subject: (U)Origami Zoo  and Brilliant Origami

From: Sreenath Chary
    IBM Australia,FF11,
    55 Coonara Avenue,West Pennant Hills,NSW 2125
Subject: (U)Origami Zoo  and Brilliant Origami
Hi all,
   Thanks a lot for all the comments on these 2 books. I will get them
both, since nobody has said one thing negative about them.

Thanks again,

Regards,
Sreenath
VNET ID: SYDVM1(SREENATH)  (Ph : 66-2-502-1118/1273)
Internet:SChary@vnet.ibm.com





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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 00:23:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: aroma'd origami

>The closest I've come to this *new and exciting* ( ;-) ) innovation is
>filling various sonobe solids with potpourri.  They make adequate sachets if
>you can control the size of the holes between units.

        For years I'd wondered how to apply rose oil to one of Kawasaki's
"Rose" models -- kami paper would just get soggy and droop, and waters and
oils make the dye on tissue foil run.  Now that I'm more familiar with wet
folding, maybe I'll give this one a shot!  8-)

        As an extension, I suppose one could wet-fold a dragon with chili
oil (at least in part), or wet-fold something with cinnamon oil, or
peppermint tea water, etc., etc.  I have been following the thread on
backcoating, which I've never done, but if the glues used there (methyl
cellulose, etc.) have to be mixed with water, I suppose some of the water
used there could be substituted with scented waters and oils, too.

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

"Tyrannosaurs, though rarely seen, are certainly still around.
And no one knows just where or when the next one will be found."

                                  -- Calvin (aka Bill Watterson)
                                    .    .
                              .-_  /:\  /'\ .
                             /'''\/:::\/'''/:\
                         .---_'''/:::::\''/:::\----.
 .  .            .    .  \::: \''\:::::/''\:::/'__/_ .
 \\_\\_       /\/:\/\/:\/ \_:::\__\---/----\_/'/ :::/
  \ \\_\______\_\_/\/\_/\__\\_/    o  o  o  \_/::::/ ___ .
   \___\__________              o           o    \//''''/
                  \______     o                o   \''_/   _----_
                        \__  /     '            o  \/:\  / ....-/





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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:00:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Slight correction on Convention time

OK, the Conventions are in JULY. Or the last weekend
in June/ first in July. Whatever. If you want to go
got to be a member long before that (April, May) in
order get the Convention registration package, and
THEN if you're not going and want the "substitute",
you've got to return your order before the Convention
registration deadline. You can't order the pack during
or after the Convention.

--valerie





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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:06:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: aroma'd origami

<<  I've always wondered how exactly
<< you fill the units up with herbs, etc...

I believe the original kusudama were *made*
from herbs & flowers; the paper ones are
a subsitute... Hanging up bunches of herbs
for medicinal and ritual purposes is common
in many cultures, (garlic strings in the kitchen;
balsam wreathes at xmas; we've got remnants of
these customs too).

Only the Japanese, though, I suspect, would
think to formalize and transform the practice
to such an exent...

--valerie





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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:25:02 -0300 (ADT)
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Rose Diagrams

+I have uploaded Winson Chan's diagrams of Kawasaki-san's new rose to the
+ftp site.  They are currently in the .incoming directory.  They printed fine
+on the postscript printer at work, so good luck everyone.

Thanks Janet!

I had to remove control-D characters from the front and end of every file,
and after doing that they  printed fine for me too!

-Doug





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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:30:44 -0300 (ADT)
From: Edward Crankshaw <ejcranks@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Dinosaur Skeletons

To whomever can help,

For those of us starving students and people who are treated like
mushrooms (kept in the dark), would someone be so kind as to give me a
source for diagrams on the two dinosaur skeleton models recently
discussed. I would appreciate it immensely.

Edward Crankshaw
ejcranks@hiwaay.net
http://fly.hiwaay.net/~ejcranks/origami.html





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Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 15:45:51 -0300 (ADT)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.UK>
Subject: Re: Origami Shopping (London)

> Also, my parents are (lucky them) going to the US for a little while as =
> well as England and Germany from October the 1st for six weeks...my =
> mother said she would buy me some origami stuff while she is away as it =
> might be cheaper other there (of course!) Well I was wondering if anyone =
> knows of any good paper and or bookshop that she could get to pretty =
> easily to buy me some stuff...I was also wondering if anyone would know =
> of some good (cheapish) books that I could as her to buy? Thanks...oh =

I think it's unlikely you'll find much that would class as 'cheapish' in
the UK. Most of the books are of US origin, and those kind book publishers
have a very simple method for converting from US dollars to UK pounds, it
is:

1 US dollar = 1 UK pound

The current tourist rate is about:

1 UK pound = 1.55 US dollars!

Most of the large bookshops in London will have a few origami titles. If
you email again, I can give you the addresses of some more specialist shops
in London (I don't have the info with me right now).

Richard
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 16:01:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: Butterfly Balls and Bombs.

I  have been reading with interest the diverse instructions for putting
together a "Butterfly Ball". I have never achieved it yet: I think my only
hope would be a structured and integrated combination of sticky tape, paper
clips and "bobby pins". (Incidentally, Bobby Pins are called " Kirby Grips"
over here, though my wife, Margaret for some reason she could never
explain,used to call them "Bobby Pins" when she used them many years ago.)
But to continue, I think use of such artificial devices would be quite
against the spirit of Our Art and somehow would be surrendering our Noble
Principles. Nevertheless, I am noting carefully  all your suggested
tecniques, both commendable and subversive, in the hope that when the time
comes and I shall be required to make a "Butterfly Ball", I shall be adequate
to the task.

What I really intended to tell you is that there seems to have been a change
of name. "Butterfly Balls" used to be called "Butterfly Bombs" and not so
long ago either. I see that Gay Merrill Gross calls them "Butterfly Balls"
 in "The Art of Origami", (what a wonderful book that is!) so perhaps it was
she who gave them this innocent name. Or was this the name given by the
designer, Kenneth Kawamura, a name which, for a time,  was displaced in
popular usage? Anyway, I always knew it by the much more explosive name of
"The Butterfly Bomb".

Now I know some of you  have heard me tell this story before, but many will
not, so I the the ones who have will be patient while I tell it again.

 The name of "Butterfly Bomb" still sends shudders down my spine. During the
last war, Grimsby, where I still live, was the target for a new type of
experimental air raid. Goering's air force, the Luftwaffe, decided to try out
their new anti-personnel bombs and considered that Grimsby and the adjoining
town of Cleethorpes would be an ideal target The bombs were quite small, only
about seven or ten pounds in weight, but they had a cover which opened out to
form two rotary wings, like a propellor, so that the bombs descended down
slowly, fluttering like maple seeds or butterflies. They were scattered over
the two towns in their thousands together with small incendiary bombs, just
to complicate the situation. (A large manor house, not far from where I live
now, which was  used as a hospital,  was burnt to the ground.) Some of these
small anti-personnel bombs exploded on impact, others had timing divices,
while the deadliest kind just lay around waiting to explode if they were even
slightly touched. I remember sitting under our steel indoor "Morrison"
shelter, which also served as our dining table and long after the all-clear
had sounded, hearing periodic explosions.We were shortly to learn that each
explosion usually meant that someone had stumbled on a bomb in the blackout
and had been killed. It was not until an hour or two later that  my father
 returned on his bicycle  from his air raid post about one and a half miles
away where he acted as a  Special Constable (a voluntary policeman). He told
us about these new bombs and how some friends he knew had kicked one out of
curiosity and been killed.  When he told us he had been dodging bombs lying
in the road as he cycled past them in the blackout, our hair stood on end.

The next day, little circles of sandbags appeared round bombs lying all over
the town. We children passed them as we went about the town: there were too
many to close the streets, but we made sure we kept well clear of them! The
circles of sandbags remained for a few days until the bombs could be cleared.
Each of the bombs had to be exploded just where it had fallen, even if it had
fallen through the roof into someone's house. Getting rid of the bombs caused
heartrending damage. But thankfully, the Germans seem to have thought that
the raid was  not a success and it was never repeated on the same scale. The
incident was not reported in the newspapers and because everyone observed the
wartime rules of secrecy, the anti-personnel raid on Grimsby and Cleethorpes
is not something that is generally known about, even today.

These bombs were immediately called "Butterfly Bombs" from the way they
fluttered down. So when the paper variety of "Butterfly Bombs" became popular
among paperfolders a few years ago, I spoke about my memories of the
Butterfly raid on Grimsby .Even though the paper Butterfly Bomb really does
appear to explode, it may be because of the sinister implications of the name
that paperfolders  have come to prefer the less threatening name of
"Butterfly Ball".

But I still love butterflies. This summer has been a good year for them in
England. We have a Buddleia bush in our garden which has been full of several
varieties of them. When I master the advanced techniques needed to create
them I shall have the greatest pleasure in throwing up my butterfly balls and
watching the butterflies flutter innocently to the ground.

David Lister

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 17:47:50 -0300 (ADT)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Re: Butterfly Balls and Bombs.

>What I really intended to tell you is that there seems to have been a change
>of name. "Butterfly Balls" used to be called "Butterfly Bombs" and not so
>long ago either. I see that Gay Merrill Gross calls them "Butterfly Balls"
> in "The Art of Origami", (what a wonderful book that is!) so perhaps it was
>she who gave them this innocent name. Or was this the name given by the
>designer, Kenneth Kawamura, a name which, for a time,  was displaced in
>popular usage? Anyway, I always knew it by the much more explosive name of
>"The Butterfly Bomb".

>David Lister

I don't know this for sure, but I have always assumed that it was the
association with violence and destruction which moved the name from bomb to
ball.  I was uncomfortable with the bomb name from the first (which is why I
started calling it fireworks).  The image of a bomb is hardly conducive to
"the peace of paper".

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 17:58:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: TrekDBob@aol.com
Subject: Re: aroma'd origami

Carol --

Well, if you read much science fiction - cinnamon would go well with a worm a
la Dune (Arrakis -- Dune -- Desert Planet)!!!!  :-)  Although I can't think
what the would look like, other than a cylinder with tetth at the end...
probably not a very interesting model!

You could have cinnamon go with Dragons, too, I would imagine... or better
yet - sulphur... maybe put some match stick stuff inside your dragon model...

Of course, there are a bazillion flower/perfume combinations...

I won't even go into natural musk odors for wild animals (I seem to recall
several skunks... even foxes, ferrets and beavers and other large mammals
would go with musky odors).

Fish -- perhaps some eau de tuna can? Or the least expensive of cat foods
(although, you'd probably never be able to keep them away from your cats...
worse than catnip...)

I wonder what is is that I can only think of strong, stinky smells???

Being silly today, sorry!

Did you know that vanilla is a very calming scent (they think because vanilla
is a component of mother's milk... very soothing and comforting) -- I would
imagine you could even scent things with some vanilla extract... mobiles, or
flowers and birds...

Dee
