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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:06:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Wayne Ko <Herman_Ko@mindlink.bc.ca>
Subject: A) Tessellating Models B) RE: Anatomically Correct Dragonfly

A)  Tessellating Models:

Thanks to all who replied to my inquiry about tessellating models.
Something else besides fishy tessellations - I also found a tessellating
arrow in Robert Harbin's Origami 4.  Anyways, here's what I've got so far
that tessellates:

- Nick Robinson's fish at various sites
- Rose at the ftp site
- Fish in Origami Plain and Simple by Neale/Hull
- Arrow in Origami 4 by Robert Harbin.

Any more additions will be appreciated.

______________

B)  RE:  Anatomically Correct Dragonfly:

There are 2 dragonflies in  Nakamura's Flying Origami that may be of
interest.  One is a dragonfly that flies. The other depicts a dragonfly at
rest, with slender legs etc. and appears to be quite accurate anatomically.
However, these models involve some cutting and rectangular paper and may not
appeal to the purist.

______________

C:  RE:  Stars????

A few of my favorite stars come to mind:

-  A fairly simple 2D 8 point star from Origami by Robert Harbin (I've seem
newer versions of this book under a different title, but can't recall what
it is).  I've included this in some Christmas cards before.

- A semi 2D/3D star made from the bird base by rabbit ear folding the 4
flaps.  This produces an 8 point star with 4 long points and 4 short points
and resembles the Star of Bethlehem.  I came across this by accident a long
time ago, but couldn't locate any references for it.

-  A 3D star in Animal Origami for the Enthusiast by John Montroll (strange
title for a book with a 3D star).  This is a nice model - I've made a few
dozen with foil paper, attached a thread and used them as Christmas tree
ornaments.
Also there is a starfish in this book which can pass as a nice 2D 5 point star.

Happy folding,

Wayne





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:41:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Ole A. Nielsen" <nielseno@knot.queensu.ca>
Subject: Ship Models

Abe Edlin wrote:
Hello, I am looking for a good model of a ship. I have come across the Junk
in Honda's book, and there is reference to a three masted ship in brill's
"Brilliant Origami" in the bottle fold, but I havn't found the plans.........

The 3-masted ship is by Patricia Crawford and is in CREATIVE ORIGAMI by J.C.
Nolan. Creative Origami is available through The Source.

Janet Nielsen





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:46:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: bob@maggie.pentek.COM (Bob Sgandurra)
Subject: Re: Any good Ships?

On August 20, Abe Edlin wrote:

>>Hello, I am looking for a good model of a ship. I have come accross the
>>Junk in Honda's book, and there is a reference to a three masted ship in
>>brill's "Brilliant Orgami" in the bottle fold, but I haven't found the
>>plans for one. If someone could help, it would be greatly appreciated.
>>Thanks Again,

There is a very nice 'fully rigged' ship in J.C. Nolans, "Creating Origami".
I think this may be the one referenced in "Brilliant Origami"

Bob
bob@pentek.com





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:47:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: Alex Barber <barber@dazed.nol.net>
Subject: Web site update

I updated the folder list at my site to work off of a database. Now,
instead of a static list on the page every time, you can just search by
country, state, city, and name.

For now adding new records to the database goes through email, but
ultimately you'll be able to add yourself to the database directly over
the web.

Please let me know how everything works for you with the database.

Alex Barber
barber@nol.net
http://www.nol.net/~barber





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:54:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: jtweres@psp.ih.lucent.COM
Subject: Re:  ORIGAMI-L digest 436

we DIDN'T miss...

> Jeannine Mosely wrote:
>
> Gisela wrote:
>
>    If any of you has seen the Film "James and the Giant Peach" (correct
>    translation?? I just had a guess) you may recall the 3D-cube he folds
>    and uses as a balloon near the beginning of the story. I want to fold
>    it but as I said above, while I found a lot of wonderful and
>    complicated models to fold I didn't find the cube anywhere.
>    Please help me.
>
> Everybody is always writing to the list to tell of origami "sightings"
> on TV and film.  How did we miss this one?
>
>       -- Jeannine Mosely
                                                                    /\
                                        ||
====================================================================||

we DIDN'T miss this one???
the weekend the movie came out
i sent email to origami-l posing the question
"would the balloon ACTUALLY fly
 just by the heat of the candle?"

  /-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-///plieur de papier\\\-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\
 /=-= jack thomas weres                         jtweres@lucent.com =-=\
/=======================\\\================///=========================\
"Let Go and Let Fold"                             "One Crease At A Time"





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:05:27 -0300 (ADT)
From: Yaacov Metzger <origami@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Origami Sayings (Cute T-shirts Discussion?)

Steve Casey wrote:

"I'm an Origami Fan "               (with origami peacock graphic)

This gets my vote! (not that we're voting, of course... ;) )

Yaacov Metzger





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:36:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Friendship Butterfly Project

I am posting what will be familiar to those of you who attended the OUSA
convention this year, but I have added a personal note at the end.

The following text was handed out at the OUSA 96 convention along with the
simple Yoshizawa butterfly folded by Arizona school children (this was also
the friendship wreath class):

The Butterfly Project is an origami project to help kids accept cultural
diversity.  The butterfly is explained as a symbol of friendship because it
lives everywhere people live, it comes in all sizes and colors, and it goes
through incredible changes in its life, just like people.  The folders are
taught to fold a butterfly chosen for their age and skill.  They are then
encouraged to share the friendship by making and giving away a butterfly,
decorating a public area such as the school office, or teaching someone else
to fold the friendship butterfly.  I have been working with this project in
schools for the last four years and we are now exchanging butterflies with
schools all over the world.  This school year we sent butterflies to Turkey,
Malta, Mexico, Canada, and all over the USA.  I encourage schools to
exchange with each other rather than use me as a go-between, so the students
have direct contact with each other.  If you would like more information,
feel free to contact me:
Diana Wolf
5634 West Hubbell St.
Phoenix AZ  85035
USA

With Diana's permission, I am posting her note to the list.  This project
seems to me to be a wonderful one not only for schools, but for Scout
troups, Boys and Girls Clubs, church groups, community groups, retirement
centers. I especially like the butterfly metaphor for our lives' processes.

I have been trying to think of the kinds of things which I encountered in my
childhood which made me open to other cultures and other people.  At least
in part it had to be the kind of personal touch and experience which the
Butterfly Project can provide.  I remember being fascinated when given the
opportunity to handle coin and currency from other countries; I read
articles about other parts of the world and studied the photographs showing
different architecture, food, etc.; I Trick-or-Treated for UNICEF; my family
hosted an exchange student; I volunteered at the local hospital.  These
kinds of things made me feel connected to a very real world community -- a
community of which I was an active part.

I live in South Carolina.  Those of you who have been following the US news
of the rash of church burnings may know that just this past week, 4 members
of the Ku Klux Klan in SC were indicted for two of the fires.  I continue to
be upset at this turn of society -- and especially so because I now learn
that I live in a county where the Klan advertises its meetings on signs
posted along the secondary roads, signs which say "public welcome". More
than ever, we need projects like the Butterfly Project as a force against
that violence and hate.

Now, obviously, the Butterfly Project is not going to solve what are
extremely complex societal problems.  But that is not what it tries to do.
It extends a hand of friendship across the street, across the state,
country, world.  It helps us feel connected to community (and to beauty),
even if no other contact is made.  This is espectially true when people sign
the butterflies they fold.

I encourage everyone who is interested to spread the word about this project
and to institute it as you can.  I am very willing to serve as an e-mail
contact person until Diana's e-mail address is established.

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net

213 Coachman Dr.
Lexington SC  29072
USA





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:56:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Netscape Cool Talk

Miss Emma Jane Griffiths <emmajg@cardiffcybercafe.co.uk> sez

>For those who have Cool Talk

What is this & where can I get it from?

all the best,

Nick Robinson
email           nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
homepage        www.rpmrecords.co.uk/nick
BOS homepage    www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    www.rpmrecords.co.uk





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 16:09:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Any good Ships?

>
> Hello, I am looking for a good model of a ship. I have come accross the
> Junk in Honda's book, and there is a reference to a three masted ship in
> brill's "Brilliant Orgami" in the bottle fold, but I haven't found the
> plans for one. If someone could help, it would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks Again,
> Abe Edlin
>

Martin Wall has also designed a three masted ship, which can be found in:

Eric Kenneway  "Origami: Paper folding for fun" (1st edition)

(note that this model, and several other harder models were dropped from
the 2nd. edition).

Richard K.
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 16:37:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: Miss Emma Jane Griffiths <emmajg@cardiffcybercafe.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Netscape Cool Talk

At 15:56 20/08/96 -0300, you wrote:
>Miss Emma Jane Griffiths <emmajg@cardiffcybercafe.co.uk> sez
>
>>For those who have Cool Talk
>
>What is this & where can I get it from?
>Cool Talk - well it's like interent telephone you can talk using
microphone and speakers it also has a whiteboard where you can drawing
silly picture or also put origami instructions on them.  Also theres
a notepad where you can type and send mesages which is good for me
as I don't have a microphone but I can get access to a machine with
one.
It comes with Netscape 3 you can download the files from
netscapes homepage or ftp site.  I have the netscape 3 for win 95 or
win 3.1 with Cool Talk file I can email you it but it's about 5.5 MB!!
Let me know
I can be contacted on CoolTalk at: emmajg@dogbert.cardiffcybercafe.co.uk

Happy Folding

Em*
>all the best,
>
>Nick Robinson
>email           nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
>homepage        www.rpmrecords.co.uk/nick
>BOS homepage    www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
>RPM homepage    www.rpmrecords.co.uk
>
>
---------------------------------------------------
             Miss Emma Jane Griffiths
      E-mail: emmajg@cardiffcybercafe.co.uk
  URL: http://www.cardiffcybercafe.co.uk/~emmajg





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 16:38:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@leatherback.nist.gov>
Subject: Re: Ship Models

At 02:42 PM 8/20/96 -0300, someone wrote:
>
>The 3-masted ship is by Patricia Crawford and is in CREATIVE ORIGAMI by J.C.
>Nolan. Creative Origami is available through The Source.

Just a minor nit-picking:
"Creating Origami" is by J.C. Nolan
"Creative Origami" is by Kasahara, Kunihiko

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|  _        Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) <chens.mbr@asme.org>            |\
| |_| Folding http://roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~sychen/origami/pprfld.htm --\





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 16:56:36 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re:  ORIGAMI-L digest 436

   we DIDN'T miss...

   > Jeannine Mosely wrote:
   >
   > Gisela wrote:
   >
   >    If any of you has seen the Film "James and the Giant Peach" (correct
   >    translation?? I just had a guess) you may recall the 3D-cube he folds
   >    and uses as a balloon near the beginning of the story. I want to fold
   >    it but as I said above, while I found a lot of wonderful and
   >    complicated models to fold I didn't find the cube anywhere.
   >    Please help me.
   >
   > Everybody is always writing to the list to tell of origami "sightings"
   > on TV and film.  How did we miss this one?
   >
   >    -- Jeannine Mosely
                                           /\
                                           ||
   ====================================================================||

   we DIDN'T miss this one???
   the weekend the movie came out
   i sent email to origami-l posing the question
   "would the balloon ACTUALLY fly
    just by the heat of the candle?"

Ooops.  I forgot.  Sorry.

        -- Jeannine





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 18:17:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marcia Mau <marcia.mau@pressroom.com>
Subject: New Fuse Book

I purchased a copy of Joyful Origami Boxes (ISBN 0-870-40-974-3) yesterday.
It is published by Japan Publications Trading Company and sold for $17.
There is no price printed on the book. The publication date is 1995 although
the preface is dated January 15, 1996.  It was printed in Japan.  Credit is
given to Elica's Paper, Berkeley, CA for handmade paper and paper objects.

There are triangle, square, octagon, heptagon and hexagon boxes and what
Fuse calls Flowery Plates, partitions,and a tray with legs.  Some of the
lids are pyramid shaped.

Any idea whether this is a totally new book or republication of models from
some of her Japanese texts?  The triangle box seems to be the same as the
one beginning on pg 55 of Origami Boxes (0-87040-821-6).   I don't remember
hearing anything about this book at convention or on the list.

Marcia
marcia.mau@pressroom.com
Marcia Mau
marcia.mau@pressroom.com





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 18:20:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: Alex Barber <barber@dazed.nol.net>
Subject: Further web site update

Thanks to those who sent me their info via email today - I'll get you
into the database tonight for the folder database.

I went ahead and finished the edits to the html to get into the database
- you can now add yourself directly to the folder database via the form
on my page. No more waiting for me to manually process your email ;)

Kudos to Blue World Communications for their software. I hope to use it
to build connections to a model database in the future. I would appreciate
hearing from those who have already worked on origami model databases.

See you on the web
Alex Barber
barber@nol.net
http://www.nol.net/~barber





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 20:40:19 -0300 (ADT)
From: Grace Chiu <chiug@cognos.com>
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI-L digest 441

Cathy Palmer-Lister wrote:

>       I have been following your discussions for  two or three weeks
> now,
> and I must tell you how much I enjoy your conversations.  I cannot find
> any
> origami clubs in the Montreal area (although we do have a very fine
> Japanese
> paper store), and I feel rather alone.  I just got on Internet and was
> stunned by the amount of interest in origami.

Where's the Japanese paper store in Montreal?

Grace Chiu
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 20:52:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: Grace Chiu <chiug@cognos.com>
Subject: Re: Origami books

Doris wrote:

> Everybody looking for Japanese origami book
> should go to KINOKUNIYA (a Japanese bookstore chain).
> They are in San Francisco (Nihonbashi) and
> in New York, , in Toronto, and I don't know  where.

Where's the Kinokuniya in Toronto?

Grace Chiu
Ottawa, ON, Canada





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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 22:51:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: PenneyA@aol.com
Subject: Re: convention packs

I'm in Michigan and I haven't gotten my convention pack yet either so when I
do I will post it here.
                          Penney





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:28:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Nick Robinson's Fishy

Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com> sez

>Obviously, I'm getting too old for multi-tasking :-)

Add more RAM - it worked for me!

all the best,

Nick Robinson
email           nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
homepage        www.rpmrecords.co.uk/nick
BOS homepage    www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    www.rpmrecords.co.uk





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:50:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Mr.COLIN ROWE" <PAZCMR@pan1.pharm.nottingham.ac.UK>
Subject: Re: Netscape Cool Talk

> Date:          Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:56:55 -0300 (ADT)
> Reply-to:      origami-l@nstn.ca
> From:          Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
> To:            Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Subject:       Re: Netscape Cool Talk

> Miss Emma Jane Griffiths <emmajg@cardiffcybercafe.co.uk> sez
>
> >For those who have Cool Talk
>
> What is this & where can I get it from?
>
>
> all the best,
>
> Nick Robinson
> email           nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
> homepage        www.rpmrecords.co.uk/nick
> BOS homepage    www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
> RPM homepage    www.rpmrecords.co.uk
>
The current downloadable version (3.0) of the
netscape browser contains this as a
plugin / accessory. I believe the next
(possibly non-beta) version will be
available from Monday.
Colin Rowe,
Chief Technician - Research Support,
Pharmaceutical Sciences, University of Nottingham,
Email Colin.Rowe@Nottingham.ac uk





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:06:15 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kristine Tomlinson <ktomlinson@platinum.com>
Subject: For you list makers -- more origami marketing

    Hi,

    I was just about to place some unsolicited marketing literature in the
    wastebasket, when a paper airplane design caught my eye.  I opened the
    brochure to see who would use a paper model (hey, it worked! :-), and
    found not only step-by-step instructions, but the whole brochure (about
    1.5'x1.5') was marked with valley folds and folding arrows so that you
    could fold the brochure into the airplane.

    No doubt they wanted us to fold it and then *fly* it into the
    wastebasket!  :-}  The clever marketeers were the Boston-based
    Massachusetts Interactive Media Council, Inc. and it was a call for
    entries for a competition.  It certainly was "interactive", but I doubt
    it'll fly ...

    Kristine
    ktomlinson@platinum.com
    Waltham, MA, USA





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:22:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: Abe Edlin <aedlin@closerlook.COM>
Subject: Re: Any good Ships?

Abe Edlin wrote:
>
> Hello, I am looking for a good model of a ship. I have come accross the
> Junk in Honda's book, and there is a reference to a three masted ship in
> brill's "Brilliant Orgami" in the bottle fold, but I haven't found the
> plans for one. If someone could help, it would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks Again,
> Abe Edlin

Thanks for sending me in the right direction. I should be able to find
it from here.
Abe Edlin





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:47:44 -0300 (ADT)
From: Steve Matheson <pmagic@ionline.net>
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI-L digest 441

Grace Chiu wrote:
> Where's the Japanese paper store in Montreal?
>
Hi Grace! How goes it?
There is a branch of the The Japanese Paper Place in Montreal called
Au Papier Japonaise. I can't find their address right now but their phone #
is
514-276-6863. The store is run by Stan Philips & Lorraine Pritchard who are

both incredibly nice and helpful people.
See at the X'mas show in Ottawa if not before.

Steve Matheson
Waterloo, ON





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:32:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: cathypl@generation.net (Cathy Palmer-Lister)
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI-L digest 441

Hello, Grace!

>
>Where's the Japanese paper store in Montreal?
>

It's easy to find as it is just off the "Main" , 24 Fairmont West within a
block of St Laurent.  It's near the famous bagel makers.  It's called Au
Papier Japonais, and has, of course, a large crane for a sign.  There is a
Japanese restaurant nearby that has its windows covered in Japanese paper.
I believe it is part of Toronto's Japanese Paper Place.  The owners are a
very nice couple, likely to feed you muffins as you browse.

                                                    Cathy





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:35:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: cathypl@generation.net (Cathy Palmer-Lister)
Subject: Re: Hello!

Hello, Charles!
        >Welcome to the list! Interesting last name you've got. It's a
combination
        >of two Origami Greats - Chris Palmer and David Lister. Chris is THE
CHAMP
        >when it comes to origami tessalation models, and David Lister
blesses the
        >Origami-L list with the most erudite articles on any Origami topic. Any
        >chance you're related?

It is possible, both my family and my husband's are from England, as I
believe Chris and David are.  My family, I think originated in or near
Plymouth.  We lost touch with them after my grandparents moved to Canada.
The Listers have been here even longer.

         People are amazed at how many
        >other people are also into paperfolding. At least that's how it's
been for
        >me.

Me, too!  I was shocked to find so very much on the net.  The pictures
people have posted are truly inspirational.  I have never seen a paper
folder at work, I taught myself from books.  It gets lonely around here!

        >> ...What makes a good folder?

        >While generalizations about any group are dangerous, I'll take a chance
        >with the following... Origamists seem to be, if not good at math,
at least
        >interested by the subject. Also, theres a logical side to many
(comes in
        >handy when trying to read diagrams), an aptitude for problem
solving (i.e.
        >how did they get to THAT next step !?!), and an above average amount of
        >patience! There also does seem to be a correlation between Origami and
        >Sci-Fi themes - witness the enthusiam toward models like the
"Enterprise"
        >or any mythical creature.

        I have noticed a strong relationship between paperfolders and
mathematicians.  Alas, I am hopeless at math, and worse at geometry, being
somewhat dyslexic. My friend who got into origami when he saw my models, is
an engineer and does technical drawings.  I envy the easy way he reads
diagrams.  I do have lots of patience, I find folding a great way to relax
as it is so demanding of me.  In concentrating my thoughts like that, I stop
worrying about all the hassles I have to deal with.  Isn't it strange the
way sci-fi and fantasy relates to origami?  This is the only place where I
can show off my talents, thankfully, I am a BIG fan and much involved in
clubs and conventions.  I have a lot to do with origami showing up at local
conventions.

        >I've also noticed origamists tend to rate very high on the "Willing to
        >Helps Others" scale.

Indeed!  I am swamped with offers to send me dragons and enterprises!  I am
quite overwhelmed!  But that is why I joined the list, I could see how
friendly and generous everybody is.  It is like that in astronomy, too.  As
soon as you've seen a galaxy, you feel compelled to show everybody else.
(Have you seen the Hale-Bopp Comet yet?  It's in Ophiuchus, and easy to see
with binoculars.)

        >The only location I know of for the Neale Dragon is J. Ansill's
"Mythical
        >Beings". This book has been mentioned several times in the last
week, and
        >unfortunately I believe it's now out of print.

That's unfortuanate.  I had actually taken note of this book earlier in the
discussion as it sounded like something I would like to own.

         The book
        >may still be available thru "The Source", i.e OrigamiUSA's
bookstore. It
        >was included in the June 96 listing of books available at The
Source, and
        >was priced at $10.00

Thanks!  It will cost a bundle due to the exchange rate and GST, but I will
look into this.  I suspect there are a few models in that book that would
please me and the friends I show off to.

>
>There are two "Enterprise" models that I know of - one by Jeremy Schafer,
>and one by Marc Kirschenbaum. Jeremy's model is diagrammed in the Summer
>1995 issue of the Bay Area Rapid Folders (E-Mail me privately if interested
>in a full list of issues). Marc made his model available to everyone via
>the Origami Archive. Either use an FTP program (or Netscape's Web Browser),
>and go to
>ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/models.bin/
>There you'll find 2 directorys for Enterprise Drawings. Pick either the B&W
>or grayscale version, and you can download the .gif files that Marc created
>by scanning his hand drawn sketches. The reason for the hand sketches is
>that Paramount's lawyers are always on the lookout for anyone infringing on
>their trademarks, and Marc was wary of publishing an "Enterprise" model any
>other way.

Thanks, I will attempt that.  I am quite new at this technology, but
learning fast.

Paramount!  and Warners!  These people are insane.  Just calling his model
the Enterprise is infringing on Paramount's rights, they have registered the
name.  So are Klingons, Romulans, and so forth.  Everybody you see in
costume at a Trek convention is breaking the law.  However, the US navy is
going to keep calling ships Enterprise with or without Paramount's blessing,
and if fans are going to be fined for appearing in costume the big-wigs will
find themselves out of work.  Tell Marc not to worry, unless he is making
big bucks he will not be bothered.  If you ask permission though, even for
charity, you will be refused.  They will only accept profit making ventures,
HUGE profit!  However, they do know they cannot survive without the fanatic
following of their fans.  They turn blind eyes to quite a lot.  It's too
complicated to go into here, but basically the rule of thumb is:  Are you
helping the show's popularity, or exploiting it?  If the former, you will be
ignored if you keep a low profile.  At worse, you will get an order to cease
and desist.   And that you do, or get flushed down  the proverbial worm-hole.

                                                                        Cathy





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:36:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: cathypl@generation.NET (Cathy Palmer-Lister)
Subject: Re: Friendship Butterfly Project

Hello, Carole!

        I like the sound of this project.  I have folded the butterfly with
kids as young as six.  The results were mixed, especially with the younger
set! but we never thought to mail them anywhere.  Children have asked me if
they could mail their cranes to the Sadako monument in Hiroshima.  Does
anyone know if this can be done?
        Anyway, I would like to know more about this butterfly project.  I
agree with you that personal contact is the first step toward peace.

                    Cathy





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:36:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: cathypl@generation.NET (Cathy Palmer-Lister)
Subject: Re: Hello!

Hello Steve!

        And thanks for your warm welcome to the list.  People are very
supportive and generous.
I will soon be knee-deep in Enterprises and dragons!  I am anxious to get
back to my cottage where I do my folding to try out the Enterprise model I
was sent.  It sounds like a real challenge!

                    Cathy





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:36:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: cathypl@generation.NET (Cathy Palmer-Lister)
Subject: Re: Hello! and predictions

Hello, Carole!

        I know what you mean by "warm-ups".  Teachers rarely send kids in
the deep end, listening to their screaming is not good for sanity!
        Teachers get to know their kids fairly well, and can generally
predict who will, or will not, understand a lesson.  Still, I find origamis
is a strange animal.. You would expect the neatest workers to do the best
work, but they are often the students who do well at most things, and they
are easily frustrated when they don't get it.  You need a lot of patience,
and a stubborn streak helps a lot!  The artsy ones are not good at following
directions, they are used to doing their own thing and don't listen very
well.  Lately, I have begun to think that boys whose fathers let them "make
things" are possibly the best bets.  The kids with good spatial skills also
do well.  However, a lot of my better folders are kids with learning
disabilities.

>Could there be an origami warm up?  It would certainly be a great help to
>those of us who find ourselves teaching larger than expected groups with
>little or no help.

That's a great idea!  Has anyone put any thought into this?  I have never
seen any folders at work myself, so I would appreciate input on this subject
as I am now being asked to conduct little workshops at sci-fi meetings.
Teaching adults is a far cry from teaching ten-year olds!

>By the way, this teacher also taught me one of my favorite lines, which I
>have used teaching geography, so it can apply in lots of places:  "How many
>people think that someone on the other side of the room is confused?"

I like it!

                                    Cathy





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:52:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: Brett Askinazi <askinazi@i1.net>
Subject: WaterBombs

Ok, has anyone ever REALLY put water in a Water Bomb ?

Brett
askinazi@i1.net





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:10:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: WaterBombs

>
> Ok, has anyone ever REALLY put water in a Water Bomb ?
>
Sure did!
I may even have thrown a few of them in my younger days :-)

--
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:14:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: Miss Emma Jane Griffiths <emmajg@cardiffcybercafe.co.uk>
Subject: Re: WaterBombs

Nice one!!

At 14:52 21/08/96 -0300, you wrote:
>Ok, has anyone ever REALLY put water in a Water Bomb ?
>
>Brett
>askinazi@i1.net
>
>
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      E-mail: emmajg@cardiffcybercafe.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:17:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: dzimm@comedy.widget.com (Dave Zimmerman)
Subject: Re: WaterBombs

from 'Brett Askinazi'
>
> Ok, has anyone ever REALLY put water in a Water Bomb ?
>

Oh yes. If one is quick, and the paper stronger than weaker, one can
fold it, fill it with water, carry it to the front lines and launch it
with gusto against one's enemies (or the kids next door).

--
--
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\ \/  \/ _______        David Zimmerman           The Widget Workshop
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:20:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: Miss Emma Jane Griffiths <emmajg@cardiffcybercafe.co.uk>
Subject: Stephen - Netscape Cool Talk

Help I'm trying to find Stephen from the UK I was talking to him
on Cool Talk can you call me back.

Em*
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             Miss Emma Jane Griffiths
      E-mail: emmajg@cardiffcybercafe.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:37:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Otsu 1994 proceedings.

Has anyone heard if the proceedings of the Second International Meeting of
Origami Science Otsu Japan 1994 have yet been published?. I was told last
year that they would be published in March of this year but I have heard
nothing. I have tried to contact the organisers in Japan without success.

John.
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:37:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Anatomically correct dragonfly

At 01:25 19/08/96 -0300, you wrote:

 Forexample, take the most lifelike model you can find -- say, Brill's elephant,
>the subject of some earlier discussion -- and compare the dimensions of the
>model to the dimensions of the real animal. You'll see that they actually
>differ quite a bit, but the overall perception is of anatomical accuracy --
>or at least, that you've captured the "essence" of the subject. Origami
>designers (or at least, the good ones) consciously (or not) modify the
>dimensions of the subject in their model, exaggerating some things and
>reducing others, to achieve the maximum visual effect, while working within
>the constraints imposed by the paper and by geometry.
>

>Robert J. Lang
 This is a most valuable contribution. Origami by its choice of constraints
imposes severe limitations on what is available to model any particular life
form. Thus we are limited to linked polynomials, the paper thickness
inhibits much of our work and we are restricted the visual appearance of the
two sides of the paper. Even in painting the true representation of reality
is severely limited and in practical terms is impossible. This is even more
true for origami.

What we must seek to do is to capture the essence of the form we are
modelling as Robert Lang points out. Yoshide Momotani gave a most important
paper at Otsu in 1994 in which he pointed out that most life forms which
depend on vision, symbolise essential visual structures. There are many
examples of insects, imitating, often crudely, the patterns which warn a
preditor of danger. Momotani pointed out that visual synbols which are
necessary for survival are usually accompanied by pleasurable reactions eg
sex and eating. Clearly we humans also share in this business of
constructing visual symbols, but Momotani pointed to evidence that where a
symbol is negated in some way then a mental conflict is set up. From this he
showed that in origami we are trying to capture the visual symbol but we
must avoid conflicting messages, for example creases which detract from the
symbolic pattern.

It does seem to me that if you consider the vast amount of visual
information which flows in visually evry second through our eyes then there
must be a highly developed system of pattern forming if we are to cope with
the world and its dangers and opportunities.

Well whar does this lead to?. Well if the argument has any merit it should
encourage us to seek the very essence of the life form we are trying to
model, that is the visual symbolism which arouses in us the same emotions as
seeing the real thing. I think Yoshizawa has tried to put over this message
many many times. One of the benefits of minimal folding was to make us think
very hard about the real essence or visual symbol for the form and attitude
we were trying to represent.

John Smith.
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:23:50 -0300 (ADT)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: cranes mailed to Hiroshima

  Children have asked me if
>they could mail their cranes to the Sadako monument in Hiroshima.  Does
>anyone know if this can be done?
>

The traditional origami crane can certainly be mailed to the monument in
Hiroshima.  When I was there two years ago at the time of the anniversary,
there were countless boxes from all over the world which were being opened
at the monument itself and the cranes draped around the site.  I watched the
process for several hours.  In general, the origin of the cranes is not
labelled once the boxes are opened.  There is just a sea of cranes, several
feet thick and extending for yards and yards around the monument.  It is
overwhelming and beautiful.

I don't think that any specific address would be needed.  Hiroshima is used
to receiving these boxes.  I would address the box to the Children's
Monument, Peace Park, Hiroshima.  Most cranes are sent around the time of
the anniversary (August 6), but that probably isn't required.  Just be aware
that transit times for large boxes can be extended.

One more note: although the wonderful story of Sadako and the Thousand
Cranes is the reason we know about this tradition, it is definitely not
necessary to send a thousand cranes.  The Park does not count them!
Individual people were arriving at the memorial with offerings of a single
crane and every number up from there.

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:33:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Enterprise and rights

>Paramount!  and Warners!  These people are insane.  Just calling his model
>the Enterprise is infringing on Paramount's rights, they have registered the
>name.  So are Klingons, Romulans, and so forth.  Everybody you see in
>costume at a Trek convention is breaking the law.  However, the US navy is
>going to keep calling ships Enterprise with or without Paramount's blessing,

This reminds me of my favorite story from the Atlanta Olympics:
A local man constructed a yard art torch in his front yard as a festive
touch.  The Atlanta Committee for the Olympics demanded that he take in down
- it violated their control of Olympic symbols.  They threatened to sue.
The guy said "When ACOG pulls the torch off the Statue of Liberty, I'll take
mine down."
His torch stayed put for the duration....
Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:49:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: New Fuse Book

<< I purchased a copy of Joyful Origami Boxes (ISBN 0-870-40-974-3) yesterday.
<< There is no price printed on the book.

My copy has a price of $17US near the ISBN number on the back cover.

<< Credit is
<< given to Elica's Paper, Berkeley, CA for handmade paper and paper objects.

As far as I can tell, the "elica's papers" referred to must be those used
as backgrounds for the photos. None of the boxes are made of handmade paper,
certainly; I could identify almost all of the papers as currently available
commercial origami papers.

<< There are triangle, square, octagon, heptagon and hexagon boxes and what
<< Fuse calls Flowery Plates, partitions,and a tray with legs.  Some of the
<< lids are pyramid shaped.
<< Any idea whether this is a totally new book or republication of models from
<< some of her Japanese texts?  The triangle box seems to be the same as the
<< one beginning on pg 55 of Origami Boxes (0-87040-821-6).   I don't remember
<< hearing anything about this book at convention or on the list.

Most, if not all of the boxes, or minor variations/versions of those in this
book appear elsewhere in her Japanese language books. The plates, which are
similar in technique to Shen's single sheet dish (Jackson's encyclopedia, BOS
booklet), may be new. Off hand, I don't recall seeing them in any of the
over 2 dozen Fuse books I have. I believe some of the dome/pyramid lids are
"new", although there is a similar octagonal domed lid hidden away in one
of the early series (OP) Japanese books (these diagrams are better, however.)

Still, its a nice book, good to have another English language Fuse book; and
not quite as expensive as the Japanese language books ($35US and climbing...)

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:50:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: Abe Edlin <aedlin@closerlook.com>
Subject: Re: cranes mailed to Hiroshima

Carol Hall wrote:
> One more note: although the wonderful story of Sadako and the Thousand
> Cranes is the reason we know about this tradition, it is definitely not
> necessary to send a thousand cranes.

You know, I have been folding for years, and have seen and read about people
     makeing the 1000
cranes, yet I have never the story behind them. So, what is the traditon behind
     this? Who is
Sadako, and what is the import of the 1000 cranes?

Abe Edlin





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:37:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: Re: WaterBombs

Brett asks if anyone actually put water in water bombs.

But of course! We had phases when we did it at school until authority
eventually put its foot down firmly and caused operations to be tempoarily
suspended.

Gershon Legman relates somewhere how he and other very naughty boys filled
their water bombs with another obnoxious liquid personally provided and threw
them down on people from upstairs windows. They called theirwater bombs by
another name!

Other naughty boys have another use for water bombs. They catch flies and put
them inside the waterbomb, which amplifies the sound of the flies' buzzing.
This trick has been reported from England in 1614 and from modern China and
modern Egypt. This suggests that this paperfold has been known world-wide for
centuries.Possibly, and I stress possibly,it  is an indication that
paperfolding throughout the world has been linked in a single tradition ever
since paper spread round the world.

It is also true that you can fill your waterbomb with water and boil it over
a candle or other low light. I know, because I've done it. The closely
related paper kettle can more appropriately be used for this, but any paper
container will do.

We paperfolders operate in a real, rough, tough world!

David Lister

DLister891@AOL.com





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:39:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: Hello to Cathy Palmer-Lister

I must add my belated greeting to Cathy on joining Origami-L. I regret that I
have been very busy, and I apologise for not responding earlier. So welcome,
Cathy: I hope you will enjoy being part of us and that it will help you to
learn more about every possible aspect of Paperfolding.

Yes, many of us know each other, but  not only through Origami-L. The world
Origami movement is extraordinarily friendly, and it is easy to make
acquaintances by post and through the Origami Societies and their magazines.
 But in addition, many of us have met personally again and again by attending
some of the many Origami Conventions that are held around the world. As a
result, we really are personal friends. You are already one of us and maybe
we shall meet one day.

Since your name has been linked to mine, I have no doubt that if we went back
in time  we should find we were related. The name "Lister" is Scandinavian
and I was told by an American Lister living in Germany that our name is
associated with the seashore and water.

However, I think it is doubtful if we are at all closely related. I once
investigated my family tree and got back to 1740, when a Lister came into
Grimsby and married a freeman's daughter, thereby becoming a freeman himself.
But where he came from, I was never able to trace, so I couldn't persue the
line any further back. I have accounted for all the lines descended from him
and sadly, they don't include Cathy. Lister is a fairly common name in
England, particularly in the north, so your ancestors could have come from
anywhere in the country.

At least they are unlikely to associate you with Red Dwarf, as they do me!.

David Lister

Grimsby, England

DLister891@AOL.com





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 21:33:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Enterprise and rights

On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Carol Hall wrote:

> This reminds me of my favorite story from the Atlanta Olympics:
> A local man constructed a yard art torch in his front yard as a festive
> touch.  The Atlanta Committee for the Olympics demanded that he take in down
> - it violated their control of Olympic symbols.  They threatened to sue.
> The guy said "When ACOG pulls the torch off the Statue of Liberty, I'll take
> mine down."
> His torch stayed put for the duration....

As a fan of fokelore, it's interesting to see how this story has changed
already in such a short time. The first version I read, on Southam's
(Canadian newspaper conglomerate) "Canadians in Atlanta" homepage, was of a
young T-shirt vender selling unlabelled T-shirts with a torch on the front.
The rest of the story is the same. Sounds like this will grow into yet
another urban myth. I wonder if similar stories exist from the time of the
LA Olympics?

          Joseph Wu           | There are no ordinary people. You have never
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   | talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures,
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  | arts, civilisations--these are mortal....
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami | But it is immortals whom we joke with, work
  Webmaster, DATT Japan Inc.  | with, marry, snub, and exploit....
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 21:37:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Otsu 1994 proceedings.

On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, John Smith wrote:

> Has anyone heard if the proceedings of the Second International Meeting of
> Origami Science Otsu Japan 1994 have yet been published?. I was told last
> year that they would be published in March of this year but I have heard
> nothing. I have tried to contact the organisers in Japan without success.

I asked in June when I was at the Tanteidan Convention, and received the
answer, "not yet".

          Joseph Wu           | There are no ordinary people. You have never
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   | talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures,
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  | arts, civilisations--these are mortal....
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami | But it is immortals whom we joke with, work
  Webmaster, DATT Japan Inc.  | with, marry, snub, and exploit....
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:07:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Re: cranes mailed to Hiroshima

You know, I have been folding for years, and have seen and read about people
makeing the 1000
>cranes, yet I have never the story behind them. So, what is the traditon
behind this? Who is
>Sadako, and what is the import of the 1000 cranes?
>
>Abe Edlin
>

It's interesting that I received this post and the one from Joseph Wu about
urban folklore at the same time. (Follow me on this one)

Abe-- briefly, Sadako is the child most associated with the bombing of
Hiroshima.  She survived that tragic day, but died a few years later of the
after effects.  As she was in her final illness, she began folding 1000
cranes in keeping with the Japanese legend that folding 1000 cranes will
bring long life/good health.  She didn't get to finish the 1000.  Her school
mates took up the job after her death.  Word spread, and soon money was
raised for a children's memorial to be placed at the site of the bombing --
now Peace Park.  The origami crane has come to memorialize Sadako and by
extension all children who died from the bomb and extended from that, a
symbol of world peace.  Thousands upon thousands of cranes are displayed all
over Peace Park as each anniversary approaches; they are especially
concentrated at the children's memorial which has a statue of a young girl
holding an origami crane in her upstretched arms. (There are numerous Web
sites which have pictures of this.)

The story of Sadako has been the subject of several children's books.  The
most famous is probably _Sadako and the Thousand Paper Cranes_ by Eleanor Coerr.

The urban folklore part of this:  I have been very interested in collecting
all of the different versions of this story.  The basic story is true --
Sadako was real; her surviving family still lives in the Hiroshima area and
many there remember her.  But the story changes in small details- the number
of cranes she folded before she died; just what part her friends from school
played; what happened to the cranes she folded; how this became an
international story.  Compare published accounts and the first thing you
will notice is that the number of cranes she folded will vary.  The number
is always very specific - 628 or 722, but few of the accounts agree.
Everyone who has been touched by this story makes it their own as they tell
it to others.

I don't necessarily think that there is anything wrong with this.  The story
is quite a good legend and deserves its status as myth.  It just makes me
want to know the "real" story, a story which may never be clarified.

Also, Abe: the list has recently had quite a few long postings on the
meanings of the 1000 cranes legend (before Sadako).  Check the archives.  It
is good reading!

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:20:10 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robert Roos <rroos@alleg.edu>
Subject: Sydney bookstores?; SF-origami link

First, a request:

It appears likely that my wife and I will be in Sydney, Australia,
during the fourth week in October (computer science conference at
Coogee Holiday Inn). I'm afraid it will be impossible to schedule
anything origami-related--not enough time--but I at least wondered
if some folders from down under could Email me names and locations
of any stores in Sydney that carry good selections of origami books?

Next, some quotations:

Several of you have commented on the fact that folders seem to be fond of
science fiction. Here are some quotations from books by well-know science
fiction authors that show, if not a particular understanding of origami,
at least a fondness for the word "origami" (my apologies if some of these
have appeared before in origami-l):

from William Gibson's "Neuromancer":

        Beneath a green t-shirt, he discovered a flat, origami-
        wrapped package, recycled Japanese paper. [chap. 3]

        Disk beginning to rotate, faster, becoming a sphere of
        paler gray. Expanding--
        And flowed, flowered for him, fluid neon origami trick,
        the unfolding of his distanceless home, his country,
        transparent 3D chessboard extending to infinity. [chap.3]

        Something white tumble to the floor; Case stooped and picked
        it up. An origami crane. [chap. 12]

I forgot to write down the reference for the next one, but I'm sure it's
William Gibson, also, and probably also from "Neuromancer":

        But the paneled room folded itself through a dozen impossible
        angles, tumbling away into cyberspace like an origami crane.

from William Gibson's story "The Gernsback Continuum" in the collection
"Burning Chrome":

        I nearly wrecked the car on a stretch of overpass near
        Disneyland, when the road fanned out like an origami
        trick and left me swerving through a dozen minilanes of
        whizzing chrome teardrops with shark fins.

from William Gibson's "Count Zero":

        It was wrapped in a single sheet of handmade paper, dark
        gray, folded and tucked in that mysterious Japanese way
        that required neither glue nor string, but she knew that
        once she'd opened it, she'd never get it folded again.
        [chap. 3?]

from Bruce Sterling's article "War is Virtual Hell", in WIRED magazine,
volume 1, number 1:

        Let's have a speculative look at the 21st-century USA.
        Amber waves of grain and all that. Peaceful place; scarcely
        resembles a military superpower at all. Hardly any missile
        silos, hardly any tanks, hardly any concertina wire. Until
        the Americans need it. Then the whole massive, lethal
        superstructure come unfolding out of 21st-century cyberspace
        like some impossible fluid origami trick.

from Bruce Sterling's "Islands in the Net":

        Then she saw something opening in the sky, something
        shredding and popping and, finally, unfolding stiffly
        like an origami swan.

from Neal Stephenson's "Snow Crash":

        Sometimes, she worries about her mother, then she hardens
        her heart and thinks maybe the whole thing will be good
        for her. Shake her up a little. After Dad left, she just
        folded up into herself like an origami bird thrown into
        a fire.

from Douglas Adams's "Mostly Harmless":

        She shone the torch on [the black disk].

        As she did so, cracks began to appear along its apparently
        featureless surface. Random backed away nervously, but then
        saw that the thing, whatever it was, was merely unfolding
        itself.

        The process was wonderfully beautiful. It was extraordinarily
        elaborate, but also simple and elegant. It was like a piece of
        self-opening origami, or a rosebud blooming into a rose in
        just a few seconds.

I could probably hunt down more, but you get the idea--origami is "in"
among science-fiction authors. (However, I don't like this phrase
"origami trick", which appear three times in the list above.)

Bob Roos
rroos@alleg.edu

P.S. Haven't read Gibson's "Virtual Light" yet, but I'm willing to be
that he uses the word "origami" in it somewhere!





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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:36:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Steve Arlow <yorick@conch.aa.msen.com>
Subject: Re: cranes mailed to Hiroshima

chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall) writes:
>
>The story of Sadako has been the subject of several children's books.

And also a fairly well-known folksong, "Cranes over Hiroshima",
by Fred Small.  A summary of this story should really go into a
FAQL, here and/or on a.a.o.

>The urban folklore part of this:  I have been very interested in collecting
>all of the different versions of this story.  The basic story is true --
>             [...]    Compare published accounts and the first thing you
>will notice is that the number of cranes she folded will vary.  The number
>is always very specific - 628 or 722, but few of the accounts agree.
>Everyone who has been touched by this story makes it their own as they tell
>it to others.

I am pretty sure that the number in the Fred Small song ends
in 4, because it rhymes with the next line, "until her little
hands could fold no more" (or something like that).  I'll give
it a listen when I get a chance, and pass along the exact
number he uses.

  -- Steve

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:42:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: Steve Arlow <yorick@conch.aa.msen.com>
Subject: Re: Sydney bookstores?; SF-origami link

>        [...]    Here are some quotations from books by well-know science
>fiction authors that show, if not a particular understanding of origami,
>at least a fondness for the word "origami" (my apologies if some of these
>have appeared before in origami-l):
>
>from William Gibson's "Neuromancer":
>  [...snip...]
>from Bruce Sterling's "Islands in the Net":
>  [...snip...]
>from Neal Stephenson's "Snow Crash":
>  [...snip...]
>from Douglas Adams's "Mostly Harmless":
>  [...snip...]

Interesting that three of the four are "Cyberpunk" authors.
I wonder if there is some reason for that connection?

  --- Steve

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 restrained myself."  -- Snuff (Zelazny)       |  Farmington Hills, MI  48335
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 23:49:54 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Priya (Kanaka priya Kalyanasundaram)" <priya@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: New models in the archives

Hi,
I am new to the origami group. I have been doing origami for just over 7
months now. Could you give me the path to your models?
Thanks,
Priya

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