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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:16:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: contract@nyc.pipeline.com (Contractors Exchange)
Subject: Re: Kiwi model

On Aug 15, 1996 16:20:11, 'NiceMartha@aol.com' wrote:

>
>I attended one of the earlier conventions of The Friends of the Origami
>Center of America, now Origami USA at which an wonderful, simple Kiwi bird

>was taught.  I do not remember the creator but I believe he was also the
>teacher.  I could be wrong.  I think the convention was in Education Hall
at
>the AMNH but it could have been in the children's lunchrooms.

I just sent a reply to this message which is somewhat incorrect. Robert
land did teach such a model at his origami design workshop, but it was more
recently at the FIT convention site. I have the records still of what was
taught at the old conventions. If you can narrow down the scope of years to
look up, I would be happy to check it out.

Marc





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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:22:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: contract@nyc.pipeline.COM (Contractors Exchange)
Subject: Re: No Subject

On Aug 15, 1996 16:48:16, '"Ole A. Nielsen" <nielseno@knot.queensu.ca>'
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have just read a great many rave reviews about Fumiaki Kawahata's
>ORIGAMI FANTASY and I am wondering where I can buy/order it from.
>Janet.
>
The reviews are probably all true (I have the book, and it is a milestone
achievement). The book should still be available from The Source, Origami
USA's supplies center.

Marc





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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:40:00 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@leatherback.nist.gov>
Subject: Re:

At 04:48 PM 8/15/96 -0300, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have just read a great many rave reviews about Fumiaki Kawahata's
>ORIGAMI FANTASY and I am wondering where I can buy/order it from.
> Janet.
>
>
>

You may check Sasuga bookstore in USA:
Tel: (617) 497-5460 Fax: (617) 497-5362
http://www.terra.net:8080/sasuga/origami1.html

I don't know if they still have them in stock.

BTW: Does anyone have the book by Yoshizawa?
Check http://www.terra.net:8080/sasuga/neworigami.html
--------------------------
Yoshizawa Osamu: Inochi Yutaka na Origami A Compilation of Masterworks by
Yoshizawa
Osamu $61.00
Everything from animals to human forms are included in the special
compilation of previously unpublished works by Master Yoshizawa. This 200
page book contains diagrams for 60 models for the true collector.

------------------

Gee! $61.00 - The most expensive one I have ever seen!
Any review or comments?

---------------------
Is "Osamu" another name of Yoshizawa Akira? (Japanese friends, Please...)
Thanks.

|--------------------------------------------------------------------\
|  _  Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)<chens@iia.org or chens.mbr@asme.org>  |\
| |_| Folding http://roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~sychen/origami/pprfld.htm --\





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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:52:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kevin Lee Willis <klwillis@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Kawasaki Rose Diagrams

Once these diagrams are available via FTP or HTTP, please let me know. :-)

Appreciatively - Kevin Willis

**********************____ O/ __         "Beauty is truth, truth beauty,
* klwillis@netcom.com **   (\   --_       that is all/Ye know on earth,
**** "Net Surfer" ******* __/)___  -_____ and all ye need to know".
**************************~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                    -John Keats

On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Michael & Janet Hamilton wrote:

> I am forwarding the following message to the list from Winson Chan at his
     request.  I have offered to upload
> his diagrams to the origami ftp site.
>
> WINSON CHAN wrote:
> >
> > I'm still on the origami-l list, but I'm having trouble emailing to the
     entire
> > list, so I'm sending this to you and asking if you can forward this to the
> > entire list.
> >
> > The diagrams to the New Kawasaki Rose, not the one in OftC, have been
     completed.
> > A few people have checked over the diagrams.  They could use some
     improvements,
> > but after spending countless hours drawing them on my computer, I don't
     think
> > I'll spend any more time on improving them.  I've been saving the diagrams
     to
> > put on my own web site, but I've been to busy/lazy to put one up.  Can I
     just
> > send the diagrams to someone and they can post it somewhere for me.
> >
> > Winson
>
> Janet Hamilton
> mikeinnj@concentric.net





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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:55:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: "Origami for the Connoisseur"

I believe Brett (of Facinating Folds, the on-Web
origami store) is looking into republication of
OFTC with the publishers. All interested should
email him expressing interest to increase leverage
with the publishers. Fac.Folds web site also
maintains an origami book "wanted" space where
you can post a wanted add (or for sale, for out-of
print books)

--valerie





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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 18:04:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kevin Lee Willis <klwillis@netcom.com>
Subject: _-^-_ Looking for Instructions to Make 8-Legged Crab _-^-_

Several years back, I created an 8-legged crab.
Unfortunately, I've long since forgotten how to make it.! :-(

If anyone has diagrams or knows where I can find diagrams to create
an 8-legged crab, please let me know.

Appreciatively - Kevin Willis

**********************____ O/ __         "Beauty is truth, truth beauty,
* klwillis@netcom.com **   (\   --_       that is all/Ye know on earth,
**** "Net Surfer" ******* __/)___  -_____ and all ye need to know".
**************************~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                    -John Keats





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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 19:30:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jeff Goff <jeffgoff@synergy.net>
Subject: Re: _-^-_ Looking for Instructions to Make 8-Legged Crab _-^-_

At 06:05 PM 8/15/96 -0300, you wrote:
>Several years back, I created an 8-legged crab.
>Unfortunately, I've long since forgotten how to make it.! :-(
>
>If anyone has diagrams or knows where I can find diagrams to create
>an 8-legged crab, please let me know.
>
>Appreciatively - Kevin Willis

Robert Lang's _Origami_Sea_Life_ contains three crabs, and I believe that
Peter Engel's _Folding_The_Universe_ contains at least one. Kenneway's
_Complete_Origami_ contains one, but it takes four cuts.

-Jeff





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 00:01:57 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pam & Namir <pgraben@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Rotating Tetrahedron

You might also try a hybrid paper combo involving spray-glue mounted
Saran wrap and paper or foil.  The plastic will lend strength to the hinges and
     such.
The plastic is thin enough so that it just barely adds any thickness.

!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
     !

Pamela Graben,         We and the world, see, we got
Namir Gharaibeh                this understanding!

          pgraben@umich.edu





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 00:01:10 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pam & Namir <pgraben@umich.edu>
Subject: Anatomically correct dragonfly

I have a question/challenge for the origami community:  I have seen many, many
representations of dragonflys from simple to complex, zero to six legs.
     However,
being the picky guy I am, have noticed that none (that I have seen/found) have
     the
long legs characteristic of dragonflies.  Here's the question: are there any
     models
 that do have the long legs, about half the total length of the body?
Challenge: can anyone construct a model such as I speak of?

     -Namir

!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
     !

Pamela Graben,         We and the world, see, we got
Namir Gharaibeh                this understanding!

          pgraben@umich.edu





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 00:23:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: marckrsh@nyc.pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: _-^-_ Looking for Instructions to Make 8-Legged Crab _-^-_

On Aug 15, 1996 18:04:55, 'Kevin Lee Willis <klwillis@netcom.com>' wrote:

>
>If anyone has diagrams or knows where I can find diagrams to create
>an 8-legged crab, please let me know.

*Origami Sea Life*  by Robert Lang and John Montroll, is probably the
ultimate source for origami crabs. Diagrams for a variety of crabs can be
found within. This book can be purchased through The Source, the supplies
center of OrigamiUSA.

Marc





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 00:49:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: marckrsh@nyc.pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: Anatomically correct dragonfly

On Aug 16, 1996 00:01:10, 'Pam & Namir <pgraben@umich.edu>' wrote:

>I have a question/challenge for the origami community:  I have seen many,
many
>representations of dragonflys from simple to complex, zero to six legs.
>However, being the picky guy I am, have noticed that none (that I have
>seen/found) have the long legs characteristic of dragonflies.  Here's the

>question: are there any models that do have the long legs, about half the
total
>length of the body? Challenge: can anyone construct a model such as I
speak of?

In terms of feasibility, I think Robert Lang proved in his *Origami
Insects* book, that it is possible to handle any extreme sort of leg to
body ratio in origami. Nonetheless, like yourself, I have not seen any
origami dragonflys with long legs. Personaly, I think this is a good thing,
as it forces the observer to focus on salient featues such as the long
body, wings and eyes. I never realided real dragonflys had such long legs.
This is sort of ironic, as I always thought the legs on my dragonfly (which
are about 1/3 the length of the body), looked too long. I should have
looked at an actual dragonfly, as opposed to those short legged origami
dragonflys as something to model my interpretation after.

Marc





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 01:08:50 -0300 (ADT)
From: TrekDBob@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami/Lego Displays

Carol - and others -

They DO glue those Legos together -- but in chunks. At least the ones I have
seen. They are glued into larger pieces that are then put together. Then you
just have to know which of the bigger chunks goes where!

Dee





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 02:25:29 -0300 (ADT)
From: Ric and Nancy Wunn <wunn@teleport.com>
Subject: RE: Fuse book for sale

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 Is this book about all her work?  Is there an ISBN number?  My thing is =
boxes and I am always looking for more to try.  I live in the Portland, =
OR metro area, for what its worth.

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From:   Sheila Davis[SMTP:sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com]
Sent:   Wednesday, August 07, 1996 10:50 AM
To:     Multiple recipients of list
Subject:        Fuse book for sale

        Well, I managed to do it again. =20

        On a recent trip to San Francisco, I picked up a really great
        looking origami book.  Upon returning home, I discovered I=20
        already have it.

        The book is Origami Spiral by Fuse Tomoko (Origami Wonderland
        Series #2).  It's 78 pages of intermediate level stuff--mostly
        abstract. =20

        I paid $21 for it, so I'll sell it to the first person who
        wants it for that (add a bit for shipping).

        Please reply to me directly, not to the list.

        Thanks!

Regards,

  Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
 sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 02:29:15 -0300 (ADT)
From: Ric and Nancy Wunn <wunn@teleport.com>
Subject: RE: New(?) Fuse Books and Cool Paper

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Are these books on boxes (my favorite thing to fold, and do they have =
ISBN numbers so they might be ordered?  I am a PDX metro folder, by the =
way.

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From:   Jennifer Andre[SMTP:JAndre@cfipro.com]
Sent:   Wednesday, May 15, 1996 1:15 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list
Subject:        New(?) Fuse Books and Cool Paper

     I'm jet-lagging today, and neither my co-workers nor I can figure =
out=20
     why am in the office today.  Maybe it was because I wanted to get =
to=20
     my e-mail...
    =20
     I spent three weeks in Japan, and scored FIVE Fuse Tomoko books.  =
One=20
     is from 1992, and the other four, a series, are dated 1995.  I =
don't=20
     have them with me, but I'll bring them and give the names as soon =
as=20
     I've translated all of them.  I've already made a couple of boxes =
from=20
     #3 in the series.  I think the volume is called, "Filled Origami=20
     Boxes."  Maybe someone else who has these books can offer a better=20
     translation.  I also scored a couple of others, whose names AND=20
     authors escape me.
    =20
     Finding "big kids'" origami books was a challange!  I found that =
the=20
     large bookstores ("hon-ya") I looked inside in Osaka and Kyoto had=20
     only children's origami books.  I was pleasantly surprised to find =
the=20
     Fuse books and a couple of others in the somewhat smaller book=20
     sections of department stores!  In my excitement, I completely =
drained=20
     the origami book section in Hankyu Department Store in the Umeda=20
     district (in Osaka)--all five of them.  I rounded out my (barely=20
     portable) collection at Takashimaya Department Store in the Namba=20
     district, I think.
    =20
     I also found some really nifty paper.  One kind comes in four =
pastel=20
     colors (blue, pink, green, yellow).  It glows in the dark!  Found =
it=20
     at The Keihan Store near Hirakata-shi (train) Station in Osaka.  =
Any=20
     suggestions for models that would make good use of this paper?  =
(When=20
     it's glowing in the dark, it's all the same color.)
    =20
     I'm going home now.  It's nice to be back with you all!
    =20
     - Jenni(fer) Andre

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 06:15:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Economics & Statistics Division, HM Customs & Excise" <hmce.esd@gtnet.gov
.uk>
Subject: WILSON CHAN'S DIAGRAMS FOR FLOWER MODELS

Hi,

I hope that Mr Chan will take up your kind offer to upload his diagrams to
the FTPsite.  I for one would be very interested in them.

Jonathan Smith





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:48:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Ole A. Nielsen" <nielseno@knot.queensu.ca>

In response to the questions about 8-legged crabs:

Origami Zoo  (Robert Lang and Stephen Weiss) has a truly wonderful crab
designed by Mr. Lang.

Origami Sea Life (Montroll and Lang) has a Blue Crab and a Fiddler Crab,
both by Mr. Lang.

Peter Engel's Folding the Universe (Origani from Angelfish to Zen) has both
a "one-dollar-bill" crab and a regular crab.

Animal Origami for the Enthusiast (by Jonh Montroll) also has a crab.

Of all these models listed above, my favorite has got to be the crab in
Origami Zoo.

Hope it helps!
Janet Nielsen





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:36:40 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marcia Mau <marcia.mau@pressroom.com>
Subject: Capital Folders Meetings

Capital Folders will be meeting at the Cleveland Park Library, Washington,
DC beginning in September, 1996.  The Tuesday dates are:

        September 10th
        October 15th
        November 12th
        December 10th

The library is located at the corner of Connecticut Ave, NW and Macomb St.
It is 1 1/2 blocks south of the Cleveland Park Metro on the Red Line.  There
is street parking available.  We will be meeting in the Second Floor Stack.
The library's # is 202-727-1345.  Out-of-town visitors are invited to join us.

If there is anyone on this list who is from the DC area who would like to
receive notice of future Capital Folders meetings by email, please send me
an email.  I would like to minimize our postage costs by sending snail mail
only to those who do not have email.

Thanks.
Marcia Mau
marcia.mau@pressroom.com





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:43:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: Sheila Davis <sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com>
Subject: RE: Fuse book

wunn@teleport.com wrote regarding the Fuse book I had for sale:

>  Is this book about all her work?  Is there an ISBN number?  My thing is =
> boxes and I am always looking for more to try.  I live in the Portland, =
> OR metro area, for what its worth.
>
        "Origami Spiral" is one in the many series of books Fuse Tomoko has
        authored.  This one has more abstract pieces.  Another on the
        same subject "Rasen o Oru" has things such as a DNA model
        and various shells and such.

        For those who can order international books, the ISBN for "Origami
        Spiral" is 4-480-87262-0, "Rasen o Oru" is 4-480-87202-7.

Regards,

  Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
 sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:42:06 -0300 (ADT)
From: DLister891@aol.com
Subject: Eight-legged Crab

I am responding to Kevin Willis's request for instructions for an
eight-legged crab. I haven't yet done a search in the Origami Archives, but
the following may help and may even be of interest to other subscribers.

Akira Yoshizawa has a magnificent uncut eight-legged crab in his book "Sosaku
Origami" (Creative origami") published by NHK, Japan in 1984. This model is
quite remarkable. It was first published in Yoshizawa's newsletter, "Origami
Tsushin" No.19 as long ago as 1961. George Rhodes did indeed arrive at
blintzed bases when he was in Paris, at the instigation of Gershon Legman a
few years earlier (1953 or 1954), but in view of Yoshizawa's other published
work, which is usually quite simple in design (though devilishly difficult to
fold well), it is fascinating to see Yoshizawa using such complex techniques
at such an early date. We can only guess at the techniques he has used in his
many unpublished masterpieces, which only a few privileged visitors to his
own home have ever seen.  (They have invariably described the experience and
Yoshizawa's models as awesome.)

Yoshizawa's Crab is folded from a 4XFrog Base, which starts from a blintzed
bird base.It should be started from a LARGE square of paper!

Yoshizawa includes a short analysis of Bases in "Origami Dokuhon One"
("Origami Reader One") first published in 1957 and reprinted in a larger
format in 1967. He includes the 4XBird bas but not the 4XFrog Base.

Kosho Uchiyama also includes a very similar crab, also from a 4XFrog Base in
his book "Origami" published in 1962. This book contains an much more
elaborate "family tree" of bases and the 4XBird Base is designated as "B15".
In 1958, Kosho Uchiyama had published a colourful book more suitable for
children, usually known from the name on the cover as "Origami Zukan", but
probably more correctly named "Yokuwakaru Origami", which is the name given
on the title page. (I am most grateful to Prof. James Sakoda for sending me
copies of the relevant pages from this unobtainable book.) Origami Zukan  has
a somewhat less complicated table of bases, but it stops at  the 4XBird Base
and does not advance as far as the 4XFrog Base.

In the interests of avoiding misunderstanding among future researchers of
this matter, it should be noted that the 4XBird Base is designated as "B15"
in Origmi Zukan, but as "B14" in Uchiyama's "Origami", where "B15" is, as
indicated above, the 4XFrog Base.

Uchiyama's later book, "Pure Origami" (1979) has much less to say about
advanced bases.  It does not include a table of bases and does not include
the Crab. Curiously enough, the 4XBird Base has reverted to the designation
"B15" as in his earlier Origami Zukan.

Did Yoshizawa's Crab or Uchiyama's Crab come first? Yoshizawa often
complained that other paperfolders copied his models and on one occasion
included Uchiyama in the list. Yet It could easily be a case of simultaneous
discovery or invention. (Does one "discover" or does one "invent" a 4XFrog
Base?) I doubt if we shall ever have documentary evidence to enable us to
make a final decision. This is a pity, because we ought to know who was the
very first creator of an eight-legged uncut crab.

The Kayaragusa (or Kan no mado), a manuscript dated about 1850 but the models
from which may come form the same school as the "Senbazuru Orikata" (1797),
also has an eight-legged crab which I have seen described as "magnificent".
And so for its age it is. It is, however, folded from a square with cuts into
each of the four sides, though the cutting is surprisingly limited. The
Kayaragusa can be found in Julia and Martin Brossman's book, "A Paperfolding
Classic" of 1961. This reproduces Professor Frederick Starr's own
reproduction copy of the Kayaragusa made for him in Japan by hand and
astonishingly close to the original. The original is owned by the Asahi
Newspaper of Osaka. and apart from photocopies, has never been adquately
reproduced.

The Starr copy of the Kayaragusa was not found until March 1960. At that time
the original copy of the Kayaragusa was still lost. Photocopies of the Starr
copy were distributed on a very limited basis soon after it came to light but
it is highly unlikely that the Kayaragusa Crab could have influenced either
Yoshizawa or Uchiyama in creating their own eight-legged crabs in any way.

In view of the great importance which was attached to blintzed bases in the
West in the 1960s and 1970s it is most surprising how little is was (and
still is) generally known about the advanced technqiues that undoubtedly
existed in Japan at that time.

May I say that in creating his own eight-legged crab form scratch, Kevin
deserves our warmest congratulatrions? It can have been no mean feat. I
should love to see his original model, if ever he can manage to retrieve it.

David Lister

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:13:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: Re:

At 06:24 AM 8/15/96 -0300, you wrote:
> Dear Michael & Janet,
>
>There is a good rose model well diagramed and photographed in Classic
>Origami, by PD (Pham Dinh) Tuyen, Sterling Publishing Co. Inc. New York
>(1995).  I think that this book is still in print.
>
>I too am very interested in flower diagrams.  Please can you let me know
>what you discover,
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jonathan Smith
>
>
I love Tuyen's models but some of his diagrams were very hard for me to
follow.  (I still can't get that *** spider right.)  The finished rose in
Tuyen's book looks beautiful in the photo, but when I follow the diagrams I
get a very flat sort of thread dispenser or fireplace starter.  All the
same, a local bookstore carries it so if you want it I can pick it up for you.

Cheers,

Steve Woodmansee,
stevew@empnet.com





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:17:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Ole A. Nielsen" <nielseno@knot.queensu.ca>

I saw an origami book a few years ago that had in it many mythical creatures
(unicorns, minotores and such) as well as Robert Neale's dragon (folded from
a bird base). I now want a copy of this book, but have forgotten the title.
Does anyone know of this book, the title, author, or the ISBN number?
Thank you. Janet Nielsen





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:51:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: contract@nyc.pipeline.com (Contractors Exchange)
Subject: Need Commercial Sized Foil

Yeah, I know origami is about paper folding, but I would like to use foil
instead. Does anyone here know of a place to purchase commercial sized
heavy grade foil (>18 inches)? If so, please post the info on the list, or
email me at marckrsh@pipeline.com. Thank you.

Marc





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:08:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Ole A. Nielsen" <nielseno@knot.queensu.ca>

In response to Marc's request about foil:

The Japanese Paper Place
887 Queen Street West
Toronto, Ontario
Canada

(Tel): (416)-703-0089
(Fax): (417)-703-0163

The Japanese Paper Place  (JPP)  is probably the best origami supply store
in Canada. The JPP operates a store as well as a wonderful mail order
system, and you can always count on them to have what you need.

You could also try The Source (OUSA's mail-order service), although I am not
sure what paper/foil they have. OUSA's homepage, maintained by Yusri Johan,
can be found through Joesph Wu's Origami Homepage.

Good luck!
Janet Nielsen





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:41:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: contract@nyc.pipeline.com (Contractors Exchange)
Subject: Re: Need Commercial Sized Foil

On Aug 16, 1996 16:51:25, 'contract@nyc.pipeline.com (Contractors
Exchange)' wrote:

I should have been more specific in my request; I meant aluminum foil
(i.e., the stuff used for wrapping foods). I contacted Reynolds in Canada
(I did not know untill now that they are a Canadian co.), and they should
hopefully send me their brochure. I have a feeling they would not be too
willing to deal with me on a direct basis, as I am not a commercial food
related company. If anyone knows of any resturant supply companies (NY are
pref.) that carry large sheets of foil, that would be ideal. Thank you
again. Marc

>Yeah, I know origami is about paper folding, but I would like to use foil
>instead. Does anyone here know of a place to purchase commercial sized
>heavy grade foil (>18 inches)? If so, please post the info on the list, or

>email me at marckrsh@pipeline.com. Thank you.
>
>Marc





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:44:43 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@leatherback.nist.gov>
Subject: Re:

At 04:17 PM 8/16/96 -0300, Janet Nielsen wrote:
>I saw an origami book a few years ago that had in it many mythical creatures
>(unicorns, minotores and such) as well as Robert Neale's dragon (folded from
>a bird base). I now want a copy of this book, but have forgotten the title.
>Does anyone know of this book, the title, author, or the ISBN number?

That is "Mythical Beings" by Jay Ansill. I need to go home to dig out the ISBN?

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 18:45:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: oded streigold <benjic@netvision.net.il>
Subject: re: Mithical Beings

 Hi all!

 Here is info on Jay's Ansill's Mythical beings, requested by Janet.

 Mythical beings      99p.     Binding:  pap
 Harper Collins                ISBN: 0-06-096866-4
 15 models                     printed      1992
 Difficulty: I-H

 (Taken from the Ori-index)

 Bye!

 Oded. =8-)
 Email:benjic@netvision.net.il





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 19:09:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: deg farrelly <ICDEG@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU>
Subject: 8 legged crab

David Lister writes:

>The Kayaragusa (or Kan no mado), a manuscript dated about 1850 but the models
>from which may come form the same school as the "Senbazuru Orikata" (1797),
>also has an eight-legged crab which I have seen described as "magnificent".
>And so for its age it is. It is, however, folded from a square with cuts into
>each of the four sides, though the cutting is surprisingly limited.

New diagrams of the Kayaragusa crab were included in the original (hard
cover) version of Isao Honda's _World of Origami_.  I believe they were
dropped from the subsequent paper cover editions of the book.

World of Origami was one of the books (along with Secrets of Origami, Art
of Origami, and Best of Origami) that caught my fancy when I was first
exposed to folding in the early 1960's.  At that time they were all
readily available in the Chicago Public Library.  You might still be
able to find them in some libraries.  World... was also my first
personal origami book, purchased at the (even then) bargain price of
$2 at a library school book sale in 1974.

Before being reintroduced to Origami through Lillian Oppenheimer in
1974, and learning how much could be done without the use of cuts and
glue, this crab was one of my favorite models.

As David Lister has pointed out the 8 legged crab in Honda's book is folded
from a paper which has been cut prior to folding.  I believe the paper is
divided into 16 equal divisions (4 x 4) cut along the middle of each
side.
                  ____ ____ ____ ____
                 |    |    |    |    |
                 |____|____x____|____|
                 |    |    |    |    |
                 |____x____|____x____|   < Cut to the "X" on each of
                 |    |    |    |    |     the four sides.
                 |____|____x____|____|
                 |    |    |    |    |
                 |____|____|____|____|

The cuts permit the square to be folded into four joined crane bases,
whose lower portions are narrowed (as they are to fold the traditional
crane's neck/head and tail.)  These are then reverse folded (as in the
crane) to form the 8 legs, which are further delineated with additional
reverse folds.  The claws are outside-reverse folded from what would
be wings.  The remaining 2 "wings" and the center of the the paper are
folded behind as a group and (yes) glued in place.  (With skill, it
might be possible to tuck their point into the small hole at the
base of the model, but I believe the directions call for the use of
an adhesive.)

I have not folded this model in many years, and my recollection of the
steps is from (a now very hazy) memory.

Hope this information helps...

o)-(   Stickman

deg farrelly
1601 West Sunnyside Drive, #115       E-Mail:  deg@asu.edu
Phoenix, Arizona  85029               Phone:   602.943.8175





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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 20:21:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com
Subject: re: Mithical Beings

Jay Ansill's _Mythical Beasts_ has recently been appearing in
remainder bins in the Boston area*. Hurry and find your copy, for this
will probably soon be amongst the out-of-print...

*If you're in the Boston area and interested, I have seen this in the
remainder craft section at New England Mobile Book Fair in Newton.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 06:30:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Kiwi model

On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Contractors Exchange wrote:

> On Aug 15, 1996 16:20:11, 'NiceMartha@aol.com' wrote:
> >I attended one of the earlier conventions of The Friends of the Origami
> >Center of America, now Origami USA at which an wonderful, simple Kiwi bird
> >was taught.  I do not remember the creator but I believe he was also the
> >teacher.  I could be wrong.  I think the convention was in Education Hall at
> >the AMNH but it could have been in the children's lunchrooms.
>
> I just sent a reply to this message which is somewhat incorrect. Robert
> land did teach such a model at his origami design workshop, but it was more
> recently at the FIT convention site. I have the records still of what was
> taught at the old conventions. If you can narrow down the scope of years to
> look up, I would be happy to check it out.

The only other kiwi bird model that I know of is one made from a bird base
by Steven Casey of Australia. I don't know if it is published or not (but
then it must be if I learned it...I don't remember where I learned it from,
though).

I've got the kiwi that Robert designed somewhere in my parents' house in
Vancouver. It was given to me to examine by Julie Bodewein, the Vancouver
paperfolder who requested that Robert teach a kiwi in the first place.
It's an interesting piece of work, but it hardly qualifies as "simple"! 8)

          Joseph Wu           | There are no ordinary people. You have never
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   | talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures,
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  | arts, civilisations--these are mortal....
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami | But it is immortals whom we joke with, work
  Webmaster, DATT Japan Inc.  | with, marry, snub, and exploit....
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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 06:39:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Yoshizawa's new book

On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) wrote:
> BTW: Does anyone have the book by Yoshizawa?
> Check http://www.terra.net:8080/sasuga/neworigami.html
> --------------------------
> Yoshizawa Osamu: Inochi Yutaka na Origami A Compilation of Masterworks by
> Yoshizawa
> Osamu $61.00
> Everything from animals to human forms are included in the special
> compilation of previously unpublished works by Master Yoshizawa. This 200
> page book contains diagrams for 60 models for the true collector.
> ------------------
> Gee! $61.00 - The most expensive one I have ever seen!
> Any review or comments?
> ---------------------
> Is "Osamu" another name of Yoshizawa Akira? (Japanese friends, Please...)
> Thanks.

I have the book. Great book! I've mentioned it once before here on the
list. Many photos and diagrams, and a section on wet-folding and
backcoating. The book cost 3914 yen here in Japan, and is worth every yen.
$61 is a bit of a jump, but probably still worth it! This is published by
the people who publish Oru.

Osamu is not anther name of Yoshizawa. I don't know where you got it from,
because it certainly doesn't appear in the book!

          Joseph Wu           | There are no ordinary people. You have never
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   | talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures,
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  | arts, civilisations--these are mortal....
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami | But it is immortals whom we joke with, work
  Webmaster, DATT Japan Inc.  | with, marry, snub, and exploit....
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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 06:40:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Anatomically correct dragonfly

On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Pam & Namir wrote:

> I have a question/challenge for the origami community:  I have seen many, many
> representations of dragonflys from simple to complex, zero to six legs.
     However,
> being the picky guy I am, have noticed that none (that I have seen/found)
     have the
> long legs characteristic of dragonflies.  Here's the question: are there any
     models
>  that do have the long legs, about half the total length of the body?
> Challenge: can anyone construct a model such as I speak of?

Take a look at J.C. Nolan's dragonfly in Creating Origami, and at Andrew
(or was it Ronald?) Cheung's (he's from Scotland) in one of the more recent
OUSA Annual collections.

          Joseph Wu           | There are no ordinary people. You have never
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   | talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures,
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  | arts, civilisations--these are mortal....
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami | But it is immortals whom we joke with, work
  Webmaster, DATT Japan Inc.  | with, marry, snub, and exploit....
    http://www.datt.co.jp     | --C.S. Lewis, "The Weight of Glory"





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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 09:26:29 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Ole A. Nielsen" <nielseno@knot.queensu.ca>
Subject: Mythical Beings/Subjects

Hi everyone,

Wow!! Thanks a lot for all of the information concerning Jay Ansill's book
"Mythical Beings"! It will be extremely useful, as I am going to order the
book now.

Also thanks to the people who sent me e-mail reminding me to put subjects
when I send letters. I hope I havn't inconvienenced anyone. Sorry; I'll put
in subjects from now on.

Thanks again.
Janet Nielsen





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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 15:20:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Nick Robinson's Fish

Nick,

Haven't I seen your tessellating Fish
on someone's web site, along with a dozen
or so of your other diagrams? Is it Alex
Barber's?

--valerie

..how do fish tessellate? :-)





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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 15:20:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: '96 Convention Packages?

Have the "sorry can't attend" OUSA Convention
packages started arriving anywhere yet?

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 22:52:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: '96 Convention Packages?

>
> Have the "sorry can't attend" OUSA Convention
> packages started arriving anywhere yet?
>
I'm still waiting for mine.

--
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org





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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 15:57:16 -0300 (ADT)
From: Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com
Subject: re: Mythical Beings (Boston specific)

The following is only of use to those who collect book store info
or are in the Boston area. Delete now if you're not interested...

My Saturday trip to New England Mobile Book Fair led to the sad
knowledge that they no longer have copies of _Mythical Beasts_.
So if you were planning a trip for that, don't bother. (They did
have a single remaindered copy of Jackson's _Encyclopedia of
Origami and  Papercraft Techniques_--the original version.)

For those of you in or visiting Eastern Mass, NEMBF is a
great source for origami books, new and remaindered. An
*independent* bookseller that *discounts* all new books--
the perfect combination.

New England Mobile Book Fair
82 Needham Street, Newton, MA
(617)964-5817
(In spite of the name, this is not a mobile book store.)
 They have a very peculiar way of organizing their fiction and general
non-fiction: books are sorted by publisher, then alphabetically by
title. But they do have a paper craft section. They usually have the most
recent (English language) origami titles and a good selection of currently
available titles.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:28:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: PamGotcher@aol.com
Subject: Stars????

It's time for me to start thinking of Christmas cards, and I was looking
through my library and also through Bren's page and wondering if there were
any books with models of stars exclusively.  I couldn't find any, and have
lost my Source mailing list.  I have a wonderful model of an 8 pointed star I
learned in Charlotte, but it takes 8 pieces of paper per star and that's
about 7 too many.  <G>

If people would prefer, they can respond to me off-list.

Thanks a bunch!
Pam
PamGotcher@aol.com





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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 18:05:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Miss Emma Jane Griffiths <emmajg@cardiffcybercafe.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Stars????

I know I have a few stars in my books if you like i can scan them for you
and email them to you.???
Em*
Happy Folding

At 17:28 18/08/96 -0300, you wrote:
>It's time for me to start thinking of Christmas cards, and I was looking
>through my library and also through Bren's page and wondering if there were
>any books with models of stars exclusively.  I couldn't find any, and have
>lost my Source mailing list.  I have a wonderful model of an 8 pointed star I
>learned in Charlotte, but it takes 8 pieces of paper per star and that's
>about 7 too many.  <G>
>
>If people would prefer, they can respond to me off-list.
>
>Thanks a bunch!
>Pam
>PamGotcher@aol.com
>
>
---------------------------------------------------
             Miss Emma Jane Griffiths
      E-mail: emmajg@cardiffcybercafe.co.uk
  URL: http://www.cardiffcybercafe.co.uk/~emmajg





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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 20:26:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: R Hudson <rhudson@roo.Netrax.Net>
Subject: Re: Stars????

It might not be a bad idea to post "favorite stars" as a thread on the list.

Are we talking the 2d or 3d variety?  There are a zillion different
modular 2-d stars.  I like the one that was in either the latest or
next-to-latest Paper.

---------------------------
Robert Hudson
Information Systems Major
rhudson@netrax.net
---------------------------

On Sun, 18 Aug 1996 PamGotcher@aol.com wrote:

> It's time for me to start thinking of Christmas cards, and I was looking
> through my library and also through Bren's page and wondering if there were
> any books with models of stars exclusively.  I couldn't find any, and have
> lost my Source mailing list.  I have a wonderful model of an 8 pointed star I
> learned in Charlotte, but it takes 8 pieces of paper per star and that's
> about 7 too many.  <G>
>
> If people would prefer, they can respond to me off-list.
>
> Thanks a bunch!
> Pam
> PamGotcher@aol.com





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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 21:50:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: PamGotcher@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stars????

In a message dated 96-08-18 19:27:54 EDT, you write:

>It might not be a bad idea to post "favorite stars" as a thread on the list.
>
>Are we talking the 2d or 3d variety?  There are a zillion different
>modular 2-d stars.  I like the one that was in either the latest or
>next-to-latest Paper.
>
>
>

Well, I was thinking of Christmas Cards, so flat was my thought.  (Have to
start folding early!)  But stars of any type might be an interesting thread,
as long as posters mention whether they're 2 or 3 d.
Pam





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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 21:59:40 -0300 (ADT)
From: terryh@lamg.com (Terry Hall)
Subject: Re: Re: Kiwi model

Hi All,
Just noticed the inquiry about a Kiwi model. David Pacheco designed one in
1972. It starts from a bird base. David has given me permission to publish it
in the West Coast Origami Guild (WCOG) newsletter, as soon as I have re-drawn
his original diagrams.

Terry Hall
terryh@lamg.com





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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 00:05:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mike Henderson <76003.3034@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Need Commercial Sized Foil

I called the place listed below about a year ago. It was for a project that
never panned out. They acted like origami people called them all the time.  It
so happens to be in your state Marc. It is listed in the Dallas, TX yellow
pages. I will type it in as it is listed. Hope there still there.

Alufoil Products Co INC

Aluminum Foil & Foil Papers
Plain-Embossed-Colors
Stocked For Immediate Delivery
135 Oser Av Hauppauge NY------516-231-4141

               Mike Henderson
               76003.3034@compuserve.com





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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 00:15:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: deg farrelly <ICDEG@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU>
Subject: An Origami Star

Pam Gotcher writes:

>It's time for me to start thinking of Christmas cards, and I was looking
>through my library and also through Bren's page and wondering if there were
>any books with models of stars exclusively.  I couldn't find any, and have
>lost my Source mailing list.  I have a wonderful model of an 8 pointed star I
>learned in Charlotte, but it takes 8 pieces of paper per star and that's
>about 7 too many.  <G>

The staff association at work asked me to teach an "Origami Stars"
class at Christmastime last year.  They also asked me to provide a diagram
that the staff could use on their own, which could be printed in the staff
newsletter.

Knowing my personal attitude towards Christmas, they called the workshop
"Solstice Stars".

One of the 3 stars I taught and the one that I diagrammed for the
newsletter is the Star of David, included in the Alice Gray, Kasahara
book, "Magic of Origami".

It is a very simple six point star, folded from an equilateral
triangle.  (Equilateral triangles are not that hard to cut from
a square.)

It could make a nice card to send a completed star, a pre-cut triangle,
and the diagram.  I'd be happy to provide you a copy of my diagram
including permission to reproduce, for use as a Christmas card.

Please contact me directly if you are interested.

|:^}>

deg farrelly
1601 West Sunnyside Drive, #115       E-Mail:  deg@asu.edu
Phoenix, Arizona  85029               Phone:   602.943.8175





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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 00:54:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: TrekDBob@aol.com
Subject: convention packs

I haven't gotten my "sorry"pack, either... I "heard" someone in CA got their
annual -- she didn't buy the whole pack -- perhaps they send them in waves?

Dee in Denver





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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 01:06:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: marckrsh@nyc.pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Ad utilizing origami spotted

In one of my magazines, I found an advertizement for a tech support service
called TechHelper, which is from CMP publications (they produce *Windows
Magazine* in which I found the ad. The caption stated *The paper coming out
of your printer looks like origami* (as if that were a bad thing). The
origami they showcased with the ad was not that great, so perhaps I would
be upset if my papers looked like the model depicted. It was essentialy a
fishbase with some reverse folds, and fins folded down. I am not quite sure
what the model is to be interpreted as, but it seems to fall somewhewr
inbetween a bird and a fish. The paper seemed niche though. After this
flattering description, does anyone here want to own up to helping produce
this monumental paper piece? I would be curious to see who was responsible.

Marc





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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 01:25:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Anatomically correct dragonfly

Namir sez:

> Here's the question: are there any [dragonfly] models
> that do have the long legs, about half the total length of the
> body? Challenge: can anyone construct a model such as I speak of?

The short answers are: (1) not that I know of, although there are several
excellent dragonflies out there, and (2) probably several people can -- but
whether one _should_ is another matter. It is straightforward to design a
dragonfly with relatively longer legs (here's the no-brainer solution: take
any other dragonfly, shorten the wings and body, then thin all the flaps one
more time). The problem is, even though you get the legs the right length,
they'd probably still be way too thick (as in fact the legs of most origami
insects, including my own, are) to be truly realistic.

This touches on a significant issue in representational origami: by and
large, we're not trying to hew to the specific dimensions of the subject;
we're trying to fool the eye of the observer into _thinking_ we are! For
example, take the most lifelike model you can find -- say, Brill's elephant,
the subject of some earlier discussion -- and compare the dimensions of the
model to the dimensions of the real animal. You'll see that they actually
differ quite a bit, but the overall perception is of anatomical accuracy --
or at least, that you've captured the "essence" of the subject. Origami
designers (or at least, the good ones) consciously (or not) modify the
dimensions of the subject in their model, exaggerating some things and
reducing others, to achieve the maximum visual effect, while working within
the constraints imposed by the paper and by geometry.

How this blather relates to insects is this: when people look at an origami
insect, they expect the legs to take up a certain percentage of the image,
said percentage being rather small, since real insect legs are so skinny.
Even if the legs are the right length, if they are 20 times fatter than a
real insect's legs (and they often are), then they take up 20 times too much
space for the model to be perceived properly. I've made insects with very
long legs, shown them to people, and they thought it was a spider (rather
than an ant or wasp...) even though it only had six legs, not because they
miscounted, but because it looked like it was "all legs". Anatomically, the
model was correct; origamically, it was a failure. So we compensate in the
design of insects by making the legs somewhat shorter to compensate for their
being somewhat fatter.

Why not just make the legs skinnier, you ask? Well, there you start running
up against the thickness of the paper itself. When I make a triangular flap
with an aspect ratio of 1:32 (half the width of a bird base flap), it has 16
or 32 layers, depending on whether it's an edge flap or a middle flap. It
gets pretty hard to make them thinner than that without splits, fanning, or
layer buildup in the body.

This may sound suprising coming from someone who has expended considerable
verbiage and algebra on techniques to get lots of long points of specific
lengths -- but those lengths aren't necessarily the real dimensions of the
subject! And they may not be needed at all. I just this past week designed
what I consider my most effective butterfly (slated for OUSAcon'97) and it
has no legs at all.

Robert J. Lang
rjlang@aol.com

P.S. The hazard with making a big pronouncement on this topic is that
someone's now gonna prove me wrong by designing an elegant, graceful, and
_long-legged_ dragonfly. Probably with color-changed wings and faceted eyes,
too...





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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 01:58:44 -0300 (ADT)
From: TrekDBob@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stars????

Star Fans --

"Origami: A Complete Step by Step Guide" by Paul Jackson has a rather neat
star in it -- it is of the 2D 6-pointed variety, made from a modified fish
base that you do some precreasing on, and then it sort of collapses on
itself... It is designed by Shuzo Fujimoto... I have actually never folded it
myself, but it really doesn't APPEAR to be all that difficult to fold (but
then, appearances CAN be deceiving). The picture actually shows it folded
from several types of Christmas wrap...

my personal favorite 3D star is Skillman's "Jackstone"... But that is LONG
story in itself (and may actually be in the archives if you are really
curious!!! :-D

Dee
TrekDBob@aol.com
