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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 17:55:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Penny Groom <penny@sector.demon.co.uk>
Subject: more ideas for cute tee shirts please

>
>     "Shut Up and Fold!"
>
What graphics would you put with that slogan? Any or not.Could you only
wear it at a convention if there was not an explanatory picture, where
it would certainly be appreciated!

I'm always on the lookout for new Tee Shirt slogans. I've got quite a
few  'Friends' ones (yes, pretty old) but with the summers we usually
get in England they don't really see the light of day as much as they
might somewhere else!

I'm watching the cute tee shirt thread with interest, I hope it doesn't
dry up soon.

All the best
Penny
>
>

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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 23:14:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Book or Booklet?  Your Vote!

Hi Everyone! -

        Well, in the midst of a few weeks in which some time (probably far
more than I care to admit...) was spent procrastinating studying for my
Human Anatomy class  ;-)  , I have managed to get a significant portion of
the diagramming for my _Stegosaurus_ model completed!  (To those who asked
me to send a model:  I will do so, but I'd really like to get the diagrams
done, first!)  Thus far, I am on Step 78, and only just now are the plates
done; legs are next (but that shouldn't be long; I predict the model will
take fewer than 120 steps, as I'm doing it).

        For several years now, I've been badly wanting to do my own origami
book, but thanks to scholastic endeavors, I haven't been able to do much of
anything with it.  Some enthusiasm for the project has returned, enough for
me to devote some of the aforementioned time to diagramming at least _this_
model for public consumption.  However, even at this pace, it seems that
any complete book will be several years away  8-(  .  So, while I'd still
like to do a book, I'm also contemplating alternative distributive means.

        An obvious choice here would be the ftp site (and any mirrored WWW
sites), but this becomes a problem because, as the diagrams stand right
now, even just the 78 steps occupy 25 pages!  (I diagram large for, I hope,
clarity; some of the diagrams are large so that some pages only have 2-3
diagrams per page.)  Downloading this much (not to mention printing it!)
would be tedious for some people at average present levels of computer
technology.  I was recently folding Steven Casey's _Chessboard_ model from
the WCOG reprint series, and it occurred to me that one potential
distribution means would be to self-publish (at Kinko's or somesuch place)
some "booklets" periodically with one or two models in each.  Unlike the
internet idea, this would require asking some small fee for each booklet,
as I would have to be reimbursed for whatever costs were incurred in
printing up the booklets  8-(  .  Of course, eventually, the contents of
all booklets would be collected and put into a single book, with much
additional planned material, at some unidentified point down the line
(probably just immediately after the Sun swells up and swallows the Earth).
I don't know that this is all that different than what some of the other
prolific creators do in having a few of their models published in, for
example, OUSA Annual Collections a year or 3 before those models reappear
in a book:  the Annual Collections, as well as these theoretical booklets,
have a much smaller distribution than a real book does (and besides, as
rabid origamists, we all go out and buy the real books anyway, right?  ;-)
).

        So, I'm curious as to what everyone out there thinks of the various
options.  I'm also open to other alternatives -- if anyone out there is
looking for material to include in a multi-contributor volume (as many of
Kasahara's books are), I'd be happy to consider that, too, if anyone wants
me!  8-)  Nothin may be decided for a while, but I'd like to have at least
the results of this one informal poll before I jump to any conclusions.
After all, you fine people are the ones who'll be looking at all my stuff!
So what do _you_ find to be the best option?

        Thanks to all in advance for taking some time to respond to this one!

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

"Tyrannosaurs, though rarely seen, are certainly still around.
And no one knows just where or when the next one will be found."

                                  -- Calvin (aka Bill Watterson)
                                    .    .
                              .-_  /:\  /'\ .
                             /'''\/:::\/'''/:\
                         .---_'''/:::::\''/:::\----.
 .  .            .    .  \::: \''\:::::/''\:::/'__/_ .
 \\_\\_       /\/:\/\/:\/ \_:::\__\---/----\_/'/ :::/
  \ \\_\______\_\_/\/\_/\__\\_/    o  o  o  \_/::::/ ___ .
   \___\__________              o           o    \//''''/
                  \______     o                o   \''_/   _----_
                        \__  /     '            o  \/:\  / ....-/





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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 23:38:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: Laurie & Bruce <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: Re: Odd Figure Request

Kevin,

In "creative life with creative origami VolIII"
isbn 4-8377-1290-8 there is a dog folded with a
chopstick holder by Steve Biddle - Not a balloony
feel, but a dachshund feel to it - is that what the
balloon dogs are like?

good luck on your search!

lsr





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 00:34:55 -0300 (ADT)
From: Wayne Ko <Herman_Ko@mindlink.bc.ca>
Subject: Sad State of Alt.Arts.Origami

Penny Groom made a posting to this newsgroup that really struck home to me.
There is a lot of spam in the group and it has deteriorated to a very sorry
state.  I know a lot of you on this listserver have abandoned the group
since this listserver is so much more topic related.  However, when I first
got on the net, the newsgroup was the most logical starting point for me to
reach others with the same interest.  Also if you check the postings once in
a while you do find some new beginners with legitimate postings.  Any one
out there with ideas that may help improve what the general public perceives
about Origami in the newsgroup?

Thanks to Penny for caring and also for introducing me to this group; I
almost gave up hope that there are people interested in Origami out there.

Happy folding,

Wayne Ko





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 01:05:27 -0300 (ADT)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Sad State of Alt.Arts.Origami

>Any one
>out there with ideas that may help improve what the general public perceives
>about Origami in the newsgroup?

        Depends...who's in charge of the group?  I would think that, if the
subject matter there is _that_ irrelevant, that moderating the list would
be a good option -- continually delete all irrelevant and nasty material,
and force the members to stick to the subject matter at hand -- origami!
8-)  Either that, or some of the people here who can also access the
newsgroup (I cannot  8-(  ) can just keep an eyeball on the group and
direct anyone inquiring there serious about origami (and not flamed spam)
over here to we "civil" folders.  8-)

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

"Tyrannosaurs, though rarely seen, are certainly still around.
And no one knows just where or when the next one will be found."

                                  -- Calvin (aka Bill Watterson)
                                    .    .
                              .-_  /:\  /'\ .
                             /'''\/:::\/'''/:\
                         .---_'''/:::::\''/:::\----.
 .  .            .    .  \::: \''\:::::/''\:::/'__/_ .
 \\_\\_       /\/:\/\/:\/ \_:::\__\---/----\_/'/ :::/
  \ \\_\______\_\_/\/\_/\__\\_/    o  o  o  \_/::::/ ___ .
   \___\__________              o           o    \//''''/
                  \______     o                o   \''_/   _----_
                        \__  /     '            o  \/:\  / ....-/





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 01:44:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: marckrsh@nyc.pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: Sad State of Alt.Arts.Origami

On Aug 08, 1996 00:34:55, 'Wayne Ko <Herman_Ko@mindlink.bc.ca>' wrote:

>Penny Groom made a posting to this newsgroup that really struck home to
me.
>There is a lot of spam in the group and it has deteriorated to a very
sorry
>state.  I know a lot of you on this listserver have abandoned the group
>since this listserver is so much more topic related.  However, when I
first
>got on the net, the newsgroup was the most logical starting point for me
to
>reach others with the same interest.  Also if you check the postings once
in
>a while you do find some new beginners with legitimate postings.  Any one
>out there with ideas that may help improve what the general public
perceives
>about Origami in the newsgroup?
>

I would think the more serious origamists would gravitate towards this
mailing list (provided they are aware of it). However, as you suggested,
the newsgroup is both an ideal and likely place for people to go who might
have limited curiosity. As this has been discussed before (at the
newsgropup), it seems that Zack Brown (the moderator, for lack of a better
term), has little control over what gets sent over there. The only solution
would be to start a newsgroup out of the .alt directory. As the situation
is now, it is not as bad as you might think. There are a number of people
(myself included), who check for any relevant postings, and respond when
possible. My guess is that this group has helped more people than you might
think. I found some of the topics interesting as well (reading about your
origami army seemed like a unique application of the art).  Also, Zack has
compiled a very extensive FAQ, which he updates regularly. Perhaps if his
FAQ were not so extensive, we would have more to discuss.

Marc





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 01:52:04 -0300 (ADT)
From: marckrsh@nyc.pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: Book or Booklet?  Your Vote!

It would be graet to see Jerry Harris's work back in print again,
regardless of format. i doubt anyone would be opposed to you selling
interum booklets, as long as you make it clear you have the intent of
republishing the work as part of a larger anthology. Since you suggested
these interum booklets would be distributed on a not-for-profit basis, I
would imagine anyone familiar with your work would jump at them. As for
myself, I like the convenience of downloading diagrams from an FTP site, so
if you could manage to do that as well, it would be great.

Marc





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 02:50:00 -0300 (ADT)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Book or Booklet?  Your Vote!

>It would be graet to see Jerry Harris's work back in print again,
>regardless of format.

        Gee, Marc -- you make me feel all warm and squishy inside!  8=F7)

> i doubt anyone would be opposed to you selling
>interum booklets, as long as you make it clear you have the intent of
>republishing the work as part of a larger anthology.

        Actually, I forgot to mention in my first post on this that, if I
go the booklet route, I'd also be interested in hearing people's comments
(good and bad) about the diagrams, so that I could effect any changes
before recompiling them into a book.  I'd love for any book I do to be as
perfect and error-free (as well as detailed and explanatory) as it can be.

>Since you suggested
>these interum booklets would be distributed on a not-for-profit basis, I
>would imagine anyone familiar with your work would jump at them. As for
>myself, I like the convenience of downloading diagrams from an FTP site, so
>if you could manage to do that as well, it would be great.

        I suppose I could do both, although using the 'net kind of makes
doing booklets moot.  My reservation about ftp was the length of the
models:  do people have a big problem downloading 25+ files (of between
25K-80K each)?  I have no idea how long that would take with a 28.8 modem,
let alone anything slower...?  Plus, with the booklet, I could include some
intro material for each model (sort of a J.C. Nolan + John Montroll sort of
thing...  8-)  )

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

"Tyrannosaurs, though rarely seen, are certainly still around.
And no one knows just where or when the next one will be found."

                                  -- Calvin (aka Bill Watterson)
                                    .    .
                              .-_  /:\  /'\ .
                             /'''\/:::\/'''/:\
                         .---_'''/:::::\''/:::\----.
 .  .            .    .  \::: \''\:::::/''\:::/'__/_ .
 \\_\\_       /\/:\/\/:\/ \_:::\__\---/----\_/'/ :::/
  \ \\_\______\_\_/\/\_/\__\\_/    o  o  o  \_/::::/ ___ .
   \___\__________              o           o    \//''''/
                  \______     o                o   \''_/   _----_
                        \__  /     '            o  \/:\  / ....-/





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 02:53:29 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michael & Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@cris.com>
Subject: Re: Diagrams for Flower Models

Economics & Statistics Division, HM Customs & Excise wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am new to origami and have just started folding.  Can anyone help me find
> diagrams for good flower models ?  I already have the lily and iris (both
> from the lily / frog base), and have also seen some very complicated looking
> roses.  Are there any good books about flower models or other sources that
> anyone knows about ?  I would be grateful for any help.
>
> Jonathan Smith

Here is some information from old posts on flower models.  You can also search
     the archives of this list for
the word "flower" by going to the following web page http://www.mrc-cpe.cam.ac.u
     k/cpe/jong/agb/origami.html

Janet Hamilton

***********************************************************************

Model           Designer                Book            effectiveness
___________________________________________________________________
Eierhutblume    Elsje van der Ploeg     Ei-genarten     **
___________________________________________________________________
Lilly           Unknown                 origami flowers ******
                                        the acient art of
                                        Japanese paper
                                        folding
                                        (very old book)
This book contains many other flowers, but as the pages are CARD, I  am not sure
 of the availablity!. It only
cost 6S when first sold..
___________________________________________________________________
Tropical Flowers    Ligia Montoya   Lifestyle origami   ****
                                    (Jay Ansill)
___________________________________________________________________
Sink Flower         Steve and Megumi    The new origami **
Rose brooch         Biddle                              ***
__________________________________________________________________
Iris    Unknown         complete origami    Eric Kenneway   ****
Flower  David Collier                                       *****

REFERENCE: "The most complete guide to origami flower making is  Toshie
     Takahama's Hana no origami (flowers in
origami), published by  Yuki Shobo, Tokyo, 1973"
__________________________________________________________________
Water lily  Traditional     Origami paper       Eric Kenneway   ****
                            folding for fun
Tulip       Mitsunobu                                           ****
            Sonobe
___________________________________________________________________
Flower      Paul Jackson    origami, a complete step    *****
                            by step guide (pg 80)

(although this design is very simple, when a collection of blumes are  placed
     together in a bowl, the end
result is really quite effective!)
___________________________________________________________________
Three petalled flower   Florence Temko    Secrets of Origami    ****
                                          (Robert Harbin)
+ others already mentioned
___________________________________________________________________
Tulip + Stem    Kunihiko Kasahara   Classic Origami     ****
                                    (Paul Jackson)
Daffodil    Ted Norminton                               **********
(fabulous model!! well worth the effort to make it... by the way, I  live in
     WALES so I'm not bias in any way,
HONEST!)
___________________________________________________________________
finally,

Chinese Vase    Traditional     The ultimate paper craft    *****
                                and origami book.
                                Paul Jackson, Angela A'Court
(a nice way to present flowers with stems)
___________________________________________________________________
Personally, I like to present a vase or bowl of Paul Jackon's simple  flowers
     made of German (tracing paper
thin and almost tranparent)  origami paper, with the daffodils growing out
     between them.

I hope you can get access to some if not all of these titles  some how!. If
     not, I am not sure about the
legistration of drawing a  couple of the diagrams roughly from a book and
     emailing them as post  script
files.......

HELP!!! Comments anyone??

If anyone else can recommend some models, please let me know, I will  be
     needing something original for
Valentines Day!!

With very best wishes,

Paul Slater

Email:  P.Slater@swansea.ac.uk
Snail Mail: E.G.4 Neuadd Mary Williams,
            Singleton park,
            Swansea,
            West Glamorgan SA2 8PP.
            Wales. U.K.





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 04:24:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Origami Tanteidan Convention Report

As promised a while back. This is a bit long, though. Sorry!

          Joseph Wu           | There are no ordinary people. You have never
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   | talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures,
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  | arts, civilisations--these are mortal....
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  Webmaster, DATT Japan Inc.  | with, marry, snub, and exploit....
    http://www.datt.co.jp     | --C.S. Lewis, "The Weight of Glory"

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Getting to the Origami Tanteidan Convention was an adventure in itself. Of
all days to plan a wedding!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Saturday, June 22, 1996, was the first day of the Origami Tanteidan
Convention. It was also the day my friends planned for their wedding here
in Sapporo. Fine, I thought, I'll skip the wedding. Well, actually, I
didn't think that, and even if I did, I couldn't have because I was asked
to be best man! So, instead of the happy couple rushing off to the airport
after the wedding, the best man changed into some scrungy clothes and fled
before the reception. The funny thing was that the bride is my travel
agent, so I paid for my plane ticket at the wedding rehearsal and one of
her co-workers brought the ticket to me at the wedding...

The trip was made without a hitch and I arrived at the Bunkyo Kumin Center
[This is sort of like a community center. Bunkyo-ku is one of the wards
(districts) of Tokyo.] exactly at 8 p.m. as I had predicted. There were
several events going on at the building, but I've managed to learn to read
enough Japanese to figure out which room the Convention was in. I was met
at the door by KIMURA Yoshihisa, [I'm following NAKANISHI Ken-ichi's
preferred method of romanising Japanese names by using all capitals for the
family name followed by the person's given name. Subsequent references to
each person appear in the form of the family name in mixed case followed by
the honourifc suffix "-san".] past president of the Tanteidan and known for
his models of characters, monsters, and vehicles from Japanese animation
(anime) and TV shows. There was a bit of confusion at first until I told
him who I was. I was ushered into the main room where the evening's
after-dinner activity, an origami quiz, was in progress. I helped myself to
the leftovers from dinner since I couldn't really participate in the quiz
(although I was asked for help with one question: what does the "blintz" in
blintz-fold refer to?).

After the quiz was over, I was called up onto the stage by YAMAGUCHI Makoto
to do my aisatsu, or greetings. Yamaguchi-san introduced me and conducted
an impromptu interview right there on stage. I think that it was all for my
benefit since I can usually understand what people are saying, but have
difficulty constructing sentences on my own. Thus, by asking questions, he
was able to get more information out of me than if I had tried to talk on
my own. My moment of embarrassment over (I'm always a little shy of
standing up in front of a large group), I was able to escape back into the
crowd to mill around and talk to people, and to catch a first glimpse of
the exhibition area.

I was surprised by how many people I already knew by name, and I was
pleased to be able to put faces to some of those names. It was nice to meet
Yamaguchi-san again, as well as KAWASAKI Toshikazu and his wife Junko (and
their new baby girl, Shiori), and MAEKAWA Jun.  And I met NISHIKAWA Seiji,
KAWAHATA Fumiaki, and NAKANISHI Ken-ichi (Tanteidan's webmaster) for the
first time. Other people of note included OKAMURA Masao (origami
historian), HOJO Takashi (Ph.D. student in genetics and budding origami
genius), Dr. SUZUKI Kunio (entomologist specializing in beetles who folds
snowflakes), MIYAJIMA Noboru (law student and budding origami genius), and
KAWAKAMI Michiko (one of the volunteers who helped to run the convention;
she seemed to be everywhere at once, reminding me of Risa Miller at last
year's OUSA convention).

The only other foreigner in the group was John Kvernes (or "Kubanesu", as
they called him) who was an English teacher in a small village close to
Tokyo. He didn't start origami until he arrived in Japan, but is now very
enthusiastic. He's back in the US now, and I think that he'll be joining
OUSA as soon as he can. John asked about my work, so I pulled out my photos
and sample pieces at one of the tables in the back of the room. A small
crowd gathered, and Kawakami-san invited me to put a few of my pieces in
the exhibition area.

After we cleaned up a bit, we all walked over to the ryokan (Japanese-style
inn) where some of us were staying the night. Kawasaki-san had gone ahead
and was waiting for us. There was a bit of confusion as we divided the
group to fit the rooms, but that was quickly sorted out. I was placed in a
double room with John Kvernes, while most of the Japanese stayed in rooms
with five or six other people. After we got settled, we all went down to
bathe and to soak in the o-furo (Japanese hot bath), and then proceeded to
the largest room for a bit of chatting.

I think that that was one of the more unusual parts of the convention as
compared with OUSA's conventions: we sat around to chat. I'm so used to
staying up half the night folding, but here we just sat around with some
drinks and then went to bed at around midnight. I guess the fact that the
room was also a bedroom for some of the people might have had something to
do with it. A few of us were folding, however, and WAKU Atsuya was
performing magic, mostly card tricks. Definitely a different kind of
evening for an origami convention (at least in my experience!).

Some of the topics of conversation were very interesting, however. I showed
the latest copy of Imagiro (which arrived here the day before I left for
Tokyo) and they were very impressed with the name. Apparently, reversing
the syllables (since Japanese words are broken down into syllables) to
create new names for things is very common here. There are stores,
magazines, and sports teams that are named that way. "Imagiro" even sounds
Japanese, and there was one person (I think it was Yamaguchi-san) who was
saying, "why didn't I think of that?" Yamaguchi-san also told me about how
he wants to be like Michael Shall, traveling the world to promote origami.
He explained that the Tanteidan convention was different from other origami
gatherings in Japan as they have tried to model it after what they had
observed in NY in 1994.

The next morning, we had breakfast at the ryokan (in the big room again). I
took the opportunity to get some photos of the Japanese garden in the
courtyard. Breakfast was very good: a traditional Japanese breakfast of
rice and various small dishes (fish, tofu, eggs, vegetables, etc.). For
those of you who have never tried a traditional Japanese breakfast, I
highly recommend it!

The group then trooped back over to the kumin center to get started for the
day. Registration was painless, although I didn't notice that each class
could be referred to by a code letter and wasted time and effort writing
down the name (in Japanese) of the class I wanted to attend on the sign-up
sheet. We had some time after that before the classes  started, so I
photographed the exhibition area. The exhibition area was not very large,
being a set of about 6 long tables at the back of the main hall. Still, the
work was beautiful, and I used up more than one roll of film.

I took only two classes that day: Hojo-san's wizard and Kawahata-san's
Barutan Seijin (Barutan alien, one of the main enemies of Ultraman, a
Japanese superhero; I watched Ultraman as a small child in Hong Kong, so it
was very interesting for me.). Kawahata-san told me that he was no
teacher, and I must admit that he was right. I know that the two classes I
took were not a good overall indication, but the teaching seemed a bit
weak. Hojo's class was similar to John Montroll's classes in that he had us
fold from the diagrams and went around helping people who were having
trouble. He did show us some interesting variations on the wizard at the
end, however, and also taught us a skull since we finished early.
Kawahata-san's class was similar, but his diagrams were incomplete. It was
interesting since he started by having us complete some exercises with
separate pieces of paper before launching into the finished model.

That morning, Nishikawa-san asked me to fill in for him and teach a class
at the end of the day. I must say that my teaching was not all that
successful, either. My normal teaching method involves showing people how
to do each step, and then wandering around the group to make sure everyone
had it before going on to the next step. What I had never realized before
was how much I depended on language to teach and how useful a blackboard
is when teaching a large group. I was teaching my orca (killer whale) in
broken Japanese and ended going way over time. Part way through, I received
help from Nakanishi-san, Hojo-san, and YAMANASHI Masahiro who could
understand my instructions a little better and helped to explain things to
the rest of the group.

Lunch that day was spent in the company of an Iranian man (I never did get
his name) who was in Japan strictly for the purpose of learning origami so
that he could return to Iran and become that country's first origami
teacher! I don't know if he's still in Japan, but I wish him well.

The last classes were followed by a charity auction of origami-related
materials. The two auctioneers were Kimura-san and Maekawa-san and they
carried on a friendly banter throughout. The best part of the auction was
when a set of handkerchiefs with an origami crane print was brought out.
Maekawa-san is well-known as a collector of non-origami representations of
origami cranes, so various members of the audience made bids to raise the
final price that he had to pay for the handkerchiefs.

At this point, the various volunteers were asked up onto the stage to be
thanked for their help. I didn't get all of their names, but here are some
of them: Yamaguchi-san, Maekawa-san, Nishikawa-san, Okamura-san,
Nakanishi-san, Kawakami-san, Kimura-san, Hojo-san, Miyajima-san,
Yamanashi-san, HON-IDEN Naomi (origami teacher at a technical college),
HATTORI Koshiro (another young rising star), OMI Shin-ichi (seemed to be in
charge of moving the large objects), TAMURA Nahoko, and TAJIRI (I forget
his last name but he's a former student of Kawasaki-san and now works at
Gallery Origami House).

Too soon, it was over. We cleaned up and then there was a post-mortem
meeting. As I had no place better to go, I sat in. Hon-iden-san, who is the
treasurer of the Tanteidan, reported that there were a total of 145 people
at the convention, a rousing success. The comments from the questionnaires
were discussed, and some comments were made about how the convention could
be improved.

A dinner was next, as everyone walked a few blocks to a restaurant nearby.
This felt more like the OUSA convention since everyone was folding as well
as chatting during the meal. I got a chance to examine Hojo-san's work more
closely (including an ammonite and several beetles). I was also properly
embarrassed when I asked Hattori-san what he was thinking of as he sat
staring off into space because he then showed me the Pegasus that he was
folding behind his back.

I stayed with Yamaguchi-san for a couple of days after that and had some
other adventures. But that's another story.

All-in-all, I had a great time at the Origami Tanteidan Convention. Next
time I go, however, I hope that my friends won't schedule a wedding...





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:43:51 -0300 (ADT)
From: Brett Askinazi <askinazi@i1.net>
Subject: Re: Book or Booklet?  Your Vote!

> It would be graet to see Jerry Harris's work back in print again,
> regardless of format. i doubt anyone would be opposed to you selling
> interum booklets, as long as you make it clear you have the intent of
> republishing the work as part of a larger anthology. Since you suggested
> these interum booklets would be distributed on a not-for-profit basis, I
> would imagine anyone familiar with your work would jump at them. As for
> myself, I like the convenience of downloading diagrams from an FTP site,
so
> if you could manage to do that as well, it would be great.
>
> Marc
Hllo,

This morning I was thinking that I would E-mail you something almost
identical.  I was thinking, after seeing all of your diagrams in my mailbox
and on the FTP site, where is a book from Marc ?  What a diverse and
wonderful collection you have.  Or maybe you already have plans ?

Brett
askinazi@i1.net





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:54:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mark Morden <marmonk@eskimo.com>
Subject: August Meeting for Seattle's PAPER

This is a reminder to anyone lurking out there that the next meeting for
Seattle's PAPER (Puget Area Paperfolding Enthusiasts Roundtable) is Sunday,
August 11 at the University Heights Community Center, 5031 University Way
NE.  We have room 110 from 1-3 pm.  Among planned activities: Gretchen
Klotz, from Portland, will be in town to teach us a Tomoko Fuse box and Phil
will teach us "When Pigs Grow Wings and Fly."  Also, a couple of bucks to
help pay for the room rental will be appreciated.  Bring any and all friends
and relatives and join us to fold with PAPER.

Mark

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I belive in the rising sun;
not because I see it but by it I see all else.
                                           C.S. Lewis





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 13:18:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: LarryFinch@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami Sayings (Cute T-shirts Discussion?)

My favorite has always been "The Origami Society is Folding!"

Larry Finch
larry@jyacc.com
larryfinch@aol.com





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 15:32:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Neal Elias' Elephant

At 17:54 04/08/96 -0300, you wrote:
>

>I wonder which of Neal Elias's elephants was the one on which Gershon Legman
>bestowed such high praise. There are two elephants in the first of the Elias
>booklets published by the BOS. (Booklet no.34.) The elephant with the raised
>trunk on page 33 seems to be the only real candidate, and certainly has an
>impressive pose.  But is it technically and in the folded result the equal of
>George Rhodes' elephant?  Or did Neal Elias create yet another elephant?
>
>I should welcome all suggestions and opinions.
>
>David Lister,

According to Dave Venables data base of Neal Elias's notebooks there are 6
Elias elephants.
However this seems to exclude the elephant coded 1042, see BOS booklet No.34
it also appears in Harbins origami 4.  Since this is titled 'revised' and is
a much later code no. than the others in the database I think it very likely
that this is the candidate for Legman's praise.
I was fortunate to see this elephant folded by Neal and it was superb.
Although I think Brill's elephant is more correct in its proportions I think
that Elias's elephant has a sense of power and menance that is missing in
Brill's or Rhodes.

My ranking would be.

1. Neal
2 Brill ( by a short trunk)
3. Rhodes

Good hunting, John.

John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 17:21:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kim Best <Kim.Best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: Book or Booklet? Your Vote!

On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Jerry D. Harris wrote:

>         I suppose I could do both, although using the 'net kind of makes
> doing booklets moot.  My reservation about ftp was the length of the
> models:  do people have a big problem downloading 25+ files (of between
> 25K-80K each)?  I have no idea how long that would take with a 28.8 modem,
> let alone anything slower...?  Plus, with the booklet, I could include some
> intro material for each model (sort of a J.C. Nolan + John Montroll sort of
> thing...  8-)  )

I personally wouldn't have a problem, because I have a direct connection
to the internet, HEE HEE!!  Although it would no doubt be more
conveniant if you used Pkzip to put them in one file.

>                                     .    .
>                               .-_  /:\  /'\ .
>  [kewl stegosaurus, snipped]
>                              /___>   \__>   \__\\__\
>

Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 18:37:57 -0300 (ADT)
From: TrekDBob@aol.com
Subject: Carole Restall

I don't know how many of you may have heard from other sources, but I learned
today of the death of one of our number. Carole Restall was a folder in the
New York area, and some of you may have known her. I never actually met
Carole, but I felt like I knew her from the few times we corresponded, and
from when she wrote the Orange County Origami Club "News From the Boathouse."
I have no details, I just received a letter in the mail from Kay Eng saying
that the theme of the tree that Carole spearheaded had been redone this year
in Carole's honor. The tree will feature Purple and Pink models, and models
that Carole created and which have been published in the OUSA Annual
Collection's over the years. If you would like to contribute, send your
completed models to:
Kay Eng
2412 Whispering Hills Drive
Chester, NY  10918

Thank you all.

Dee Lynch





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 19:36:06 -0300 (ADT)
From: deg farrelly <ICDEG@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU>
Subject: More on Fair Use / Intellectual Property (60 lines)

This (lengthy) note is off the central topic of origami, but follows
up on the discussion generated by Joseph Wu's expression of concern
about the use by others of some of his images on the web.

Joseph's concerns are real and valid.  They are not limited to his own
situation, but are being faced by many others in different situations
daily.

My professional association, the Consortium of College and University
Media Centers (CCUMC), for the past 2 years has been working
collaboratively to develop guidelines that define fair use for
multimedia.

It is important to note that while CCUMC took the lead in this effort,
and has a stake in it, these are *not* CCUMC's guidelines.  The
guidelines are a consensus, developed cooperatively among a large
number of media producers, distributors, licensors, educators, and
other media stakeholders.

The Guidelines have recently been completed and are available on the
WWW at this URL:

     http://www.libraries.psu.edu/avs/fairuse/fairuse.html

Copyright law makes provision for some use of others' work in certain
circumstances.  Thus, under fair use (as it applies to print) it *is*
permissible to photocopy a diagram from an origami book for your own
use.  But it is *not* fair use to make multiple copies to distribute
in a class.

Similarly, the guidelines assert that there are legitimate occasions
when *limited* copying of another's work (from or into electronic
formats) falls into what is commonly referred to as "fair use".

But along with fair use comes responsibilities, including limits on the
amount that may be used, limits on the length of time something may be
used, requirements for proper attribution, and the requirement that
permission be sought.  Other factors, including intent, purpose, use
of the new product, etc. also affect whether a particular use is
fair use.

Within these new guidelines students doing coursework in which
multimedia skills are developed have broader rights than faculty
teaching the class.  Distribution of the copied work affects the
level of fair use as well.

Certainly, images distributed over the net, not attributed, and for
which permission was not sought, do not constitute fair use.
But a student developing an HTML document, for viewing on a server
which only the faculty and students enrolled in the course could
access, might under fair use duplicate his images.

Usual caveat that "I am not a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV".

|:^}>

deg farrelly, Media Librarian
Arizona State University West      E-Mail:  deg@asu.edu
4701 West Thunderbird Road         Phone:   602.543.8522
Phoenix, Arizona  85069-7100       Fax:     602.543.8521





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 20:54:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: "MARGARET M. BARBER" <mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
Subject: Crane models displayed in ORU Magazine

Does anyone know where to find the diagrams of the gorgeous dancing
cranes displayed on pages 19 - 23 of ORU issue #1 (Summer, 1993).  These
are some of the most evocative birds I have ever seen folded.  I hope
they're published somewhere.  I got the two ORU Model indexes but was
disappointed to find that these models were not included in them.
TIA,
Peg Barber
mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 21:28:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Crane models displayed in ORU Magazine

On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, MARGARET M. BARBER wrote:

> Does anyone know where to find the diagrams of the gorgeous dancing
> cranes displayed on pages 19 - 23 of ORU issue #1 (Summer, 1993).  These
> are some of the most evocative birds I have ever seen folded.  I hope
> they're published somewhere.  I got the two ORU Model indexes but was
> disappointed to find that these models were not included in them.

Peg, are you talking about the white crane made by Yoshino-san? According to
Yamaguchi-san (assuming I understood correctly) that was a once-in-a-lifetime
piece that involved as much sculpting and stretching of the paper as
folding. He was of the opinion that it could not be made again.

Once again, I'm taking a chance on this, expounding on something that I
don't fully understand (and it probably won't be the last time, either). If
anyone has a better understanding of this, please correct me!

          Joseph Wu           | There are no ordinary people. You have never
  origami@planet.datt.co.jp   | talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures,
 Webmaster, the Origami Page  | arts, civilisations--these are mortal....
http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami | But it is immortals whom we joke with, work
  Webmaster, DATT Japan Inc.  | with, marry, snub, and exploit....
    http://www.datt.co.jp     | --C.S. Lewis, "The Weight of Glory"





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 22:28:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: Laurie & Bruce <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: Re: Origami Sayings (Cute T-shirts Discussion?)

To cure that sinking feeling - fold a lang
(probably need Dr. Lang's permission)

Origami makes me sink and crimp

Origami - for the mountains and valleys of life.

laurie
nj

ps - apologies if these are repeats

ps - very excited - just received the "sorry can't attend packet"
        Looks fabulous!





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 22:39:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: J Armstrong <jcanada@clark.net>
Subject: Re: Book or Booklet?  Your Vote!

Jerry D. Harris wrote:

>         I suppose I could do both, although using the 'net kind of makes
     doing booklets moot.

Not at all.  Not everyone is on the net, and many of those on the net
only know or use the web.  And some people, myself included like the
book or booklet format to work from.  I dont like printing out,
collating, filing my print outs and I really dislike working from the
screen.
J





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 23:11:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: terryh@lamg.com (Terry Hall)
Subject: Re: Book or Booklet?  Your Vote!

Hi Jerry,

I would be interested in purchasing a booklet, or any other way you publish
your models.

Terry Hall
terryh@lamg.com





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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 23:24:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: reeds@openix.com (Reeds Family)
Subject: Re: Book or Booklet?  Your Vote!

>Jerry D. Harris wrote:
>
>>         I suppose I could do both, although using the 'net kind of makes
>>doing booklets moot.
>
>Not at all.  Not everyone is on the net, and many of those on the net
>only know or use the web.  And some people, myself included like the
>book or booklet format to work from.  I dont like printing out,
>collating, filing my print outs and I really dislike working from the
>screen.
>J

I agree completely. Please do booklets (with the intention of a book
eventually)--and the net, too, if it's no special bother to you.
Karen
Karen Reeds reeds@openix.com





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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 01:12:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: "Origami" CD - Available!

Yes! Yes! Yes!

In answer to all the questions, Fascinating Folds will have "Origami - The
Secret Life of Paper" available.
The retail price is $59.95 (with our usual 10%) discount applicable.  The
estimated shipping date from the manufacturer (Casady & Green) is approx 2
weeks.

I won't add a picture to the webpage for it until we actually have the CD's
in-house, but if you want to reserve one in the meantime, just let me know.

For those of you who didn't have an opportunity to see this CD at the
convention, here's a little of the "promo" info that was available:

" . . . . . . . . . Origami offers a rich and diverse introduction to the
delightful, oriental art of Origami.  The user moves through a 3D-rendered
Japanese-style house disvoedring QuickTime videos, photographs, 3D-rendered
and other forms of artwork, music and drawings - all on a single CD-ROM. "

The art of Origami is fully explained and taught in this comprehensive
program.  The following is also included in the package:
- QuickTime videos show how to fold the intricuate designs
- Figure Templates which may be printed out for folding
- Histories on Origami and papermaking
- A collection of works of international Origami masters
- Lessons on how top make paper from junk mail
- A listing of current events and Origami activities from around the world

Many thanks to Robert Lang for your help on this one!

Happy folding -
        Bren Riesinger
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:54:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: where is Sergei #56

I can't get through to Sergei at sergei@origami.nit.spb.su - if you're
out there lad, drop us a line...

all the best,

Nick Robinson
nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
www.rpmrecords.co.uk/nick





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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 15:08:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Book or Booklet? Your Vote!

>I personally wouldn't have a problem, because I have a direct connection
>to the internet, HEE HEE!!  Although it would no doubt be more
>conveniant if you used Pkzip to put them in one file.

        You lucky... ... ...  ;-)

        I could certainly upload a compressed file.  I can ZIP the files
for all you DOS users and use StuffIt for Mac files (though I am aware of
ZIP/UNZIP utilities for Macs, I have heard that ZIPping isn't as compact as
other compression routines).  Thanks for your thoughts, Kim!  8-)

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

"Tyrannosaurs, though rarely seen, are certainly still around.
And no one knows just where or when the next one will be found."

                                  -- Calvin (aka Bill Watterson)
                                    .    .
                              .-_  /:\  /'\ .
                             /'''\/:::\/'''/:\
                         .---_'''/:::::\''/:::\----.
 .  .            .    .  \::: \''\:::::/''\:::/'__/_ .
 \\_\\_       /\/:\/\/:\/ \_:::\__\---/----\_/'/ :::/
  \ \\_\______\_\_/\/\_/\__\\_/    o  o  o  \_/::::/ ___ .
   \___\__________              o           o    \//''''/
                  \______     o                o   \''_/   _----_
                        \__  /     '            o  \/:\  / ....-/





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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 15:09:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Book or Booklet?  Your Vote!

>I agree completely. Please do booklets (with the intention of a book
>eventually)--and the net, too, if it's no special bother to you.

        Well, it seems at the moment that the "booklet" people slightly
outnumber the ftp people, but then again, a good number have requested
both.  I'm always open to new thoughts on the matter, and I'll continue to
contemplate the issue whilst on vacation (I leave Saturday for a couple of
weeks -- e-mail free, unfortunately!  8-(  )  Thanks to everyone who has
given me their thoughts -- I'll keep everyone posted!  And, if you have new
ideas, please feel free to send 'em my way!

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

"Tyrannosaurs, though rarely seen, are certainly still around.
And no one knows just where or when the next one will be found."

                                  -- Calvin (aka Bill Watterson)
                                    .    .
                              .-_  /:\  /'\ .
                             /'''\/:::\/'''/:\
                         .---_'''/:::::\''/:::\----.
 .  .            .    .  \::: \''\:::::/''\:::/'__/_ .
 \\_\\_       /\/:\/\/:\/ \_:::\__\---/----\_/'/ :::/
  \ \\_\______\_\_/\/\_/\__\\_/    o  o  o  \_/::::/ ___ .
   \___\__________              o           o    \//''''/
                  \______     o                o   \''_/   _----_
                        \__  /     '            o  \/:\  / ....-/





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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 15:09:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Book or Booklet?  Your Vote!

>Not at all.  Not everyone is on the net, and many of those on the net
>only know or use the web.  And some people, myself included like the
>book or booklet format to work from.  I dont like printing out,
>collating, filing my print outs and I really dislike working from the
>screen.

        I can't see working from the screen, myself, although it's
certainly possible.  (I guess we folders have a hard time giving up on the
use of paper in its entirety -- if we didn't have printed diagrams, would
we ultimately also move towards folding a three-dimensional virtual "piece
of paper" in cyberspace instead of real paper, too???  Oh, the
horror!!!...)  Thanks for your thoughts!

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

"Tyrannosaurs, though rarely seen, are certainly still around.
And no one knows just where or when the next one will be found."

                                  -- Calvin (aka Bill Watterson)
                                    .    .
                              .-_  /:\  /'\ .
                             /'''\/:::\/'''/:\
                         .---_'''/:::::\''/:::\----.
 .  .            .    .  \::: \''\:::::/''\:::/'__/_ .
 \\_\\_       /\/:\/\/:\/ \_:::\__\---/----\_/'/ :::/
  \ \\_\______\_\_/\/\_/\__\\_/    o  o  o  \_/::::/ ___ .
   \___\__________              o           o    \//''''/
                  \______     o                o   \''_/   _----_
                        \__  /     '            o  \/:\  / ....-/





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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 15:58:36 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marcia Mau <marcia.mau@pressroom.com>
Subject: Dachshund

A few days ago, someone asked about an origami substitute for a balloon =
dog.  There's a seven step dachshund by Harry Weiss on pg 30 of The =
Flapping Bird.

Marcia Mau





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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 16:36:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Lawrence Couey <LAWRENCE_COUEY@novell.com>
Subject: Sad State of Alt.Arts.Origami -Reply

I keep an I on both alt.arts.origami and alt.binary.pictures.origami. I have a
     "form" email I mail
out to (what I perceive as) blatant offenders (usually so called "adult"
     art;-/). I did get one
replay from an individual who had no idea what origami was (he thought it was
     something
having no connection with paper!) and that it would appeal to a wide group of
     diverse
people. He was kind enough to thank me for letting him know his messages had
     been
inappropriate..

Just trying to, kindly, do my part with out stepping on any toes.

Lawrence C.

   ==> What I think is what I think.
   ==> What my employer thinks is what he thinks.
   ==>   Sometimes there is a union,
   ==>   Sometimes an intersection,
   ==>   and sometimes an empty set.
                         -- Lawrence_Couey@Novell.COM





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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 19:20:43 -0300 (ADT)
From: TrekDBob@aol.com
Subject: not a cute saying

My favorite "cute saying" really isn't a saying, and I think OUSA had
t-shirts with it already, but I thought it was fun. A big red circle with the
"no" slash across it with a picture of scissors ...

Dee





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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 20:49:40 -0300 (ADT)
From: Bill Hall <billhall@computek.net>
Subject: Re: Book or Booklet?  Your Vote!

Jerry D. Harris wrote:

> My reservation about ftp was the length of the
> models:  do people have a big problem downloading 25+ files (of between
> 25K-80K each)?  I have no idea how long that would take with a 28.8 modem,
> let alone anything slower...?

That would be probably a meg or perhaps a meg and a half. The fastest a
28.8 modem can download a meg is about 11 minutes. However, my
experience has been that downloading a meg from the net typically takes
more like an hour.

All that aside, however, I would download something that size. If you
download the latest beta copy of netscape, it's over 5 megs. I
downloaded a beta copy of the Microsoft J++ compiler the other day, and
it was 13 megs. I went to bed and let it do its thing!  :->

--
Eschew obfuscation.
Bill Hall <billhall@computek.net>
Dallas





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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 22:30:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: PenneyA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami Sayings (Cute T-shirts Discussion?)

I am thrilled to read that you recieved your  "Sorry I Can't Attend " package
because now I know there is still hope for mine.  That's what I love about
this list.  Even though I don't comment that often, I read my Email almost
everyday and get very good info on it.
                               Penney





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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 23:56:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: Laurie & Bruce <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: t-shirt - scissors / no slash

Dee,

I too thought the t-shirt with the scissors crossed out with a circle
was great. But, I'd like to share my story of it and wonder how
many other people also had a similar experience.  I had the t-shirt on
one day when i was running errands.  I noticed that people were staring
at me strangely but, thought oh well - having a bad hair day or it's my
imagination.  While i was grocery shopping, a woman came up and said
that she had to ask what i had against scissors.  The print is rather
small, so the origami association is lost at a quick glance.  She seemed
rather relieved when i told her about the origami connection - she
thought that there was some new scissor-violence praying upon society.

This reminds me of another origami story - I used to work at Sony, and
people traveled to Japan quite a bit.  Well, someone had brought back
for one of the accountants in our group a crane that had been left on a
pillow at a hotel in Japan.   Except during the travel, the crane's head
got unfolded, so it was simply two wings and two tails all sticking
straight up.  For a couple of years, this accountant thought that it was
a wonderful exotic souvenir from Japan, until i stumbled across it on
her desk and asked her about it.  She was actually disappointed when I
completed the fold and showed her that it was a crane.  I returned it to
the state it was when she received it and she was much happier.

Thanks for your indulgence.

lsr
nj

ps - this years t-shirt is a super design.





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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 01:51:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marty Katz <mandrk@pb.net>
Subject: Re: Book or Booklet?  Your Vote!

I vote for a booklet. Tom Stamm did one of his dragon which he was
asked to produce for OUSA, I think it is still on the source list.

I see no reason why it has to be a not-for -profit endeavor.
Publishers have no shame about reproducing books with new titles. Gay
Merrill Gross just found out that the publisher is combining her
first two origami books into a new volume. It's too bad that the authors are
not always compensated when this happens. If you do get a publisher,
keep this in mind

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 01:55:27 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marty Katz <mandrk@pb.net>
Subject: Re: LIFE Origami Fold Fest

Long Island Folding Enthusiasts is holding our annual Fold Fest on
August 18th from 1:30-9:00PM at the Plainview/Old Bethpage Library.
Any folder is welcome. There is no charge and no need to register.

E-mail me for any further information.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 01:58:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marty Katz <mandrk@pb.net>
Subject: Re: Origami Sayings (Cute T-shirts Discussion?)

When my son was young he came up with a couple of cute sayings.

He told me that "I crease to exist." Also one day when he was
scheduled to make a report in school (on origami of course) he was
rather nervous and said, "Origami gives me crimps."

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 07:40:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Lauinger,p15" <Lauinger@06.bonn02.telekom400.dbp.de>
Subject: Re: Sergej

Hi Nick,
perhaps you can't get through to Sergej, because you wrote
his name Sergei instead of SERGEJ. Try again with "Sergej"

happy folding

Dorisris
