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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 22:09:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: Mike Kennon <mkennon@nando.net>
Subject: Re: Enterprise and Klingon bird-of-prey

PLEASE Please... send me the Enterprise and Klingon ship!!

Thanks!!

---------------Original Message---------------
I might regret this, but I suppose I can send out copies of my *Enterprise*
diagrams (as no one else on this list has risen to the task yet). In the
next day or so, I will scan my diagrams, which I could send out as a bunch
of grouped together images. E-mail me privately, and I will e-mail thm off
to you asap. This is a complex level model, rendered even more difficult to
fold on account of my sloppy diagraming technique (or lack of, rather). To
be clear on this, I do NOT have copies of the Bird of Prey diagrams. If
anyone wants me to design one, please send me an image file, so I know what
the thing looks like (so far I have only been able to make the cloaked
version). For those of you who are header-file impaired, my e-mail address
is marckrsh@pipeline.com.

Marc

----------End of Original Message----------

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mike Kennon
mkennon@nando.net
07/09/96
21:02:39





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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:10:51 -0300 (ADT)
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Klingon Bird of Prey

hey Guys -

Marc K DOES NOT HAVE THE BIRD OF PREY DIAGRAMS - I DO! Once again. If you would
like to send me a SASE to get a copy of the diagrams, send it to:

Dee Lynch
1350 E. Easter Ave.
Littleton, CO 80122

At the moment I do not have the designers permission to scan it in
     electronically
anywhere, so old fashioned paper is all you're going to get until I can clear
it with him.

Please stop pestering Marc!

Dee

blynch@du.edu





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Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:55:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: Laurie & Bruce <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: Why one thousand?  Why cranes?

Hello,

I've paid my respects at Hiroshima, seen the cranes at the statues, read
Sadako's story, folded a thousand cranes for a peace memorial in Los
Almos, NM, searched the origami archives, and thumbed through my books.

but still missing some history ......

1) What is the significance of 1000? I know that the original origami
crane diagrams date back at least a thousand years. I know that it can't
have a four in the number, but why isn't 500 good enough? Is it just
historical?

2) Why a crane? (I know it is a symbol of peace)  Why not some other
model?  I think a thousand frogs would be stunning.

3) What does it really mean?  I have always associated it with sadness
and condolences.  Recently, I went into a restaurant and was startled to
see strands of cranes hanging from the ceiling.  Also, I've heard people
mention it in conjunction to weddings.  Has it become more a
generic symbol of good luck?

4) Is the luck transferable?  I had heard that the folder was to have
the luck, but have rarely heard of a folder keeping the thousand cranes
after having folded them.

5) How frequently is this done in Japan?  Is this something where
growing up, all Japanese at one time or another contribute to a 1000
crane project?  When we visited a few grave sites by some temples in
kyoto we didn't see any strands of cranes.

6)  Who makes the cranes that are left on pillows at the Shinjuku Hyatt
in Tokyo?  Every night a new crane sometimes.  Is it a requirement that
all house cleaning people have to know how to fold cranes?

thanks,
laurie
bastian@nis.net





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:02:14 -0300 (ADT)
From: Laurie & Bruce <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: Origami - short story

Hello,

Several months ago, on NPR (National Public Radio) selected shorts hour
where they read short stories, I over heard a cute short story.  It is
about a woman who learns to fold origami from apologies that she
collects through life.

"Offerings" Marlene Buono - Book - Flash Fiction edited by James Thomas,
Denise Thomas, Tom Hazuka, - isbn #0 - 393 - 30883 - 9

laurie
bastian@nis.net





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:05:29 -0300 (ADT)
From: Laurie & Bruce <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: Classifying favorite models?

Hello,

Is it possible to categorize and select top 10 favorite models?  I could
think of categories:

1) Classic - what everyone should know
2) Quick show off models - ooooh aaaah effect
3) Action
4) Modular
5) Realistic

.....

laurie
bastian@nis.net





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:09:13 -0300 (ADT)
From: Laurie & Bruce <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: Cure for origami finger cramps

Hello,

I know that people who attended the origami conference in NY must be
suffering from origami aches.  Well, I've got a cure.  Find someone to
give you a hand massage!  A while back a friend dragged me to my first
manicure, and the manicurist gave me a hand massage.  It felt wonderful!

The ergonomic exercises that are recommended to prevent carpal tunnel
syndrome are helpful too.

Happy folding!

laurie
bastian@nis.net





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:20:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: Laurie & Bruce <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: R. Lang's ACM presentation - how do I get reprints?

Hello,

A few months back, R. Lang mentioned that he was giving a talk on
origami at one of the ACM meetings.  I called up ACM thinking that they
could search for Lang, origami, or geometry, but no.....  The
spokesperson said that they are not very computerized, did not have a
search facility, and would need the exact title, etc. before they could
possibly send me a reprint.

So, does anyone know:

1) Exact title of the paper?
2) ACM publication or conference assocation?

Much obliged.

fyi - a friend gave me the following article about origami

"Euclidean Constructions and the Geometry of Origami" Robert
Geretschlager (umlots over the a) - Austria - Mathematics Magazine Vol
68, No 5, December 1995 - pgs 357 - 371 - discusses producing cube roots
via origami methods.

laurie
bastian@nis.net





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:24:50 -0300 (ADT)
From: Laurie & Bruce <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: JAL's holiday origami tree?

Hello,

As I was spreading the word of origami, a colleague mentioned that last
year he and his wife had gone to see the window's on 5th avenue and were
sad that there was no origami tree in the JAL window.

Is this true?  I know that Michael Shall was had previously done this,
but is it possible that since he was not able to do it, it wasn't done?

I'm going to call JAL.

laurie
bastian@nis.net





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:25:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: Laurie & Bruce <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: Kawasaki-san's sea shells?

Hello,

I've folded Fuse-san's sea shells, still struggle with Robert Lang's
seashells, and was wondering how Kawasaki-san's sea shell models
compared?

Difficulty?
Similar style - I've forgotten who's web page, but I saw a few on a web
page, and they looked similar to the others.

thanks,

laurie
bastian@nis.net





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:32:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: sychen@leatherback.nist.gov (S.Y. Chen)
Subject: Re: Enterprise and Klingon bird-of-prey

>I might regret this, but I suppose I can send out copies of my *Enterprise*
>diagrams (as no one else on this list has risen to the task yet). In the

I saw Marc's Enterprise in OUSA Convention this year. I thought it was
Jeremy Shafer's design at that time. I can hardly tell the difference. Can
Marc shade some light on the difference between Marc's and Shafer's design?

Thanks!

sychen@mailserver.nist.gov





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:37:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: sychen@leatherback.nist.gov (S.Y. Chen)
Subject: Re: Enterprise

PLEASE Please... send me the Enterprise diagram
Thanks.

chens@iia.org

Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. SY)
E-Mail: chens@iia.org
http://www.iia.org/~chens/syhome.htm





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:24:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Classifying favorite models?

>Hello,
>
>Is it possible to categorize and select top 10 favorite models?  I could
>think of categories:
>
>1) Classic - what everyone should know

        Well, all of the traditional models would, IMHO, fit into this
category (eg, the crane, the flapping bird, the inflatable frog, the lily,
the waterbomb, the lover's knot, the Chinese junk, the carp/fish/whale, and
the traditional box).  They are truly timeless classics!  However, I think
you were angling more for more recent creations (by a specific creator)
that have become nearly as common or popular as the traditional models,
yes?  I couldn't speak to which of the "simpler" models could be considered
"classic," since I'm not very up on the rapidly-growing world of
non-complex origami models.  Nonetheless, I can suggest some creators whose
works should be considered:  I think that some of the models by Pat
Crawford, Neal Elias, Fred Rohm, Robert Harbin, Sam Randlett, Kunihiko
Kasahara, Toshie Takahama, Akira Yoshizawa, Lillian Oppenheimer, and Alice
Gray would almost certainly have to be considered classic, given their
longevity and persistence in origami books for several decades.

>2) Quick show off models - ooooh aaaah effect

        For something I can make quickly, the flapping bird always elicits
adoration by children, but generally not adults.  Some adults like the
lily.  Most of them are intrigued by Ed Sullivan's "Un-unfoldable Box,"
which is quick and easy to make.  Adults, generally, are more impressed by
the more complex and realistic models which, of course, don't qualify as
"quick!"  8-)

>3) Action

        I think that the variety of action matchboxes (Martin Wall, Fred
Rohm, and one or two others) which have been around for a while are great
action models, especially the ones in which the drawer can slide out both
sides.  Lang's "Cuckoo Clock" always receives acclaim.  However, I think
that the best-known and favorite action models will always be paper
airplanes with the non-origami public!

>4) Modular

        I can't comment again, as I have little personal interest in doing
modulars and thus know very few.  However, I love looking at the pictures
of them!

>5) Realistic

        There are hundreds of models I could list here.  It would be
difficult to pick a few because most of them seem to depend on specialized
paper or folding technique (wet-folding, etc.) to enhance the realism of
the final product -- if made with regular paper, they aren't quite as
realistic.  I haven't seen diagrams of it, but I am highly impressed with
the photos I've seen of Michael LaFosse's "Frog" model, which is absurdly
realistic.  I really like Montroll's "Elephant" from _Origami Inside-Out_
in terms of sheer realism.  Some of Lang's insects are fabulous and, if
made small enough and from nice paper, could be indistinguishable from real
ones at first glance (I always wanted to make an elementary-school-style
bug collection, complete with labels, made entirely out of origami bugs.
The species names, of course, would have to be named after the creators
and/or Greek and Latin terms for paper, fold, etc.)

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

"Tyrannosaurs, though rarely seen, are certainly still around.
And no one knows just where or when the next one will be found."

                                  -- Calvin (aka Bill Watterson)
                                    .    .
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                             /'''\/:::\/'''/:\
                         .---_'''/:::::\''/:::\----.
 .  .            .    .  \::: \''\:::::/''\:::/'__/_ .
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:37:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: "GInny S." <104677.3653@compuserve.com>
Subject: JAL's holiday origami tree?

Laurie & Bruce <bastian@nis.net> said:  " ... sad that
there was no origami tree in the JAL window.... Is that true?"

I miss that window very much.  It was far and away the loveliest of
_ALL_ the Fifth Avenue displays.

But Japan Airlines seems to have moved, since I couldn't find it _or_
the window <sigh>.





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:49:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: QuestorBI@aol.com
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI-L digest 399

In a message dated 96-07-09 11:24:14 EDT, you write:

<< : Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:48:40 -0700
 From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
 To: origami-l@nstn.ca
 Subject: Origami Classified Page Updated!
 Message-ID: <199607090748.AAA02633@cyber16.csz.com>

 Yep!  I finally got caught up (a little) and have updated the "Classified
 Page" - Many thanks to Oded for locating all the terrific books - I know a
 lot of you are happy!  If any of you have found the books listed in the
 "Wanted" section, please email me privately and let me know so I can update
 your listing.

 Also - if you're looking for Tomoko Fuse's new book "Joyful Origami Boxes" -
 check out the book page.  (There's a few other new books, too).

 Happy folding -
 Bren
  >>
Dear Bren,

     Can you please post the address of the Origami Classified Page?

     Thanks.

Paul
QuestorBI@aol.com





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:15:33 -0300 (ADT)
From: marckrsh@nyc.pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: JAL's holiday origami tree?

On Jul 10, 1996 00:24:50, 'Laurie & Bruce <bastian@nis.net>' wrote:

>Hello,
>
>As I was spreading the word of origami, a colleague mentioned that last
>year he and his wife had gone to see the window's on 5th avenue and were
>sad that there was no origami tree in the JAL window.
>
>Is this true?  I know that Michael Shall was had previously done this,
>but is it possible that since he was not able to do it, it wasn't done?

Yes, it is true. The JAL origami tree and the Origami by Children have been
a holiday tradition for over a decade. For financial reasons, JAL has
downsized their prominent 5th Ave. location (they moved), and have been
unable to support large exhibits such as the origami tree. Since many
people have followed Michael Shall's lead, the origami tree has been able
to live on in numerous other locations. As for Origami by Children, it has
been showcased at the nearby Donnel (sp?) library, after which it becomes a
traveling exibit.

Marc





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:31:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: ags@cix.compulink.co.uk (Alan Simkins)
Subject: Dover Publications outlet in London ?

To anyone who can help
I'm subscribed to this list, for a friend who does not yet have a
connection to the net. He asked me to post the following on his behalf:

===========================
I'm hoping someone can tell me the best place in or around London,
England to get Dover Publications Origami books.

I have been buying from Neal Street East in Covent Garden or The Japan
Centre at Picadilly (good stock of paper) but they've been neglecting
the newer publications for the last couple of months. Alternatively,
does Dover have a UK address or maybe an outlet? I know I could order
the books as I have the ISBNs but I'd much rather support a shop that's
actually willing to stock them if it's at all possible. I'm
particularly after John Montroll's 'Chinese Zodiac'.

Thanks in advance to anyone who replies. Not having an account, I can't
thank anyone in person or reply, but any help would be appreciated.

Thanks ................. Bill Cook
==================================

I will of course pass on any replies. Thanks muchly.

AlaN S>
http://www.compulink.co.uk/~bungalini/





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 04:23:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Edwin Corrie

Vincent & Veronique <osele@worldnet.fr> sez

>I read that Edwin Corrie is in Germany.

yes, at Bomerwaldstr. 27, 85080 Gaimersheim, Germany. He's employed by
Audi as a technical translator, but isn't online as yet. Since he's a
relative stranger in Germany, I'm sure he'd love to have a letter from
you...

all the best,

Nick Robinson
nick@homelink.demon.co.uk

                           ***  Origami Deutschland!   ***





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 06:17:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Lauinger,p15" <Lauinger@06.bonn02.TELEKOM400.dbp.de>
Subject: L'adresse d'Edwin Corrie est

#Mail.D# 2.00
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Anlage(n):  0

L'adresse d'Edwin Corrie est
Edwin Corrie
Boehmerwaldstr. 27
85080 Gaimersheim

beaucoup des pliages
Dorisris





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:18:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: Caslegona@aol.com
Subject: ooooh aaaah effect

2) Quick show off models - ooooh aaaah effect

When I fold with first time folders, children or 60 year old children, I fold
the moveable octagon and then the butterfly ball. After 8 years of the
octagon, the reaction is always the same "ooooh, aaaah" and then, "show me
how to do it..."





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:59:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: contract@nyc.pipeline.com (Contractors Exchange)
Subject: Apology (was Re: Enterprise)

I just wanted to apologize for sending out two *enterprise* files to the
people who asked. My PC crashed (running too many applications), and I did
not think the file went  through the first time. For those of yoiu who had
difficulty handling the large file, you can head over to
alt.binaries.pictures.origami, where I posted the file in smaller chunks.
Marc





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:55:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: OrigamiCMM@aol.com
Subject: scanning in diagams (again)

A couple people didn't like the idea of scanning in the diagrams and posting
them, but a great deal more are on the "pro" side of scanning them in...
The only way i will scan them in is if the designer, not the diagrammer,
agrees to have them put in digital form, and, i prolly won't send them to
each individual person, but to just my ftp site (until my page is finished)
and you will
download them from there.  If you can't do an ftp thing, i prolly will just
mail em to you....   If anyone has diagrams they want me to put in digital
form, mail me privately, and we will discuss it further. (And, i have never
had poor quality digital diagrams.)

Chris Miller
origamicmm@aol.com





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:02:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: OrigamiCMM@aol.com
Subject: Re: Enterprise

I would like the diagrams also. :)

chris miller
origamicmm@aol.com





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:04:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: OrigamiCMM@aol.com
Subject: Re: Apology (was Re: Enterprise)

In a message dated 96-07-10 11:03:08 EDT, you write:

<< just wanted to apologize for sending out two *enterprise* files to the
 people who asked. My PC crashed (running too many applications), and I did
 not think the file went  through the first time. For those of yoiu who had
 difficulty handling the large file, you can head over to
 alt.binaries.pictures.origami, where I posted the file in smaller chunks.
 Marc  >>

Umm.... The only origami newsgroup that i can get is alt.arts.origami....so,
please just try to send it to people again...

chris miller
origamicmm@aol.com





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:08:14 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rene Besamusca <renebe@knoware.nl>
Subject: Re: Enterprise and Klingon bird-of-prey

At 20:36 9-07-96 -0300, you wrote:
>Marc Kirschenbaum wrote:
>>
>> I might regret this, but I suppose I can send out copies of my *Enterprise*
>> diagrams
>

Just as a reminder. You can also send the diagrams as an attachment to

Maarten van Gelder <m.j.van.gelder@rc.rug.nl>

Since he maintains the Origami Archives, he can make them available for
everybody to download them over FTP.

|------------------------------------------------|
| Rene Besamusca, Houten, NL                     |
| Member of the Board of the O.S.N.              |
| WWW Pagemaster for the O.S.N.                  |
| WWW-pages : http://www.rug.nl/rug/homepage/osn |
| E-mail    : renebe@knoware.nl                  |





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:26:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: R Hudson <rhudson@roo.Netrax.Net>
Subject: Re: scanning in diagams (again)

> download them from there.  If you can't do an ftp thing, i prolly will just
> mail em to you....   If anyone has diagrams they want me to put in digital
> form, mail me privately, and we will discuss it further. (And, i have never
> had poor quality digital diagrams.)

I didn't mean to imply that you had poor quality digital diagrams.  The
problem with some of my diagrams is that they are barely readable and the
paper is sort of faded off-white.  This makes it inconvenient to scan
into bitmap format, as some of the fold lines  aren't clear, and the
scanner mistakes some of the faded background as grey shades.

Rob Hudson
rhudson@netrax.net





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:29:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Dover Publications outlet in London ?

> the newer publications for the last couple of months. Alternatively,
> does Dover have a UK address or maybe an outlet? I know I could order

There is a Dover bookshop in London. It's at 18, Earlham Street, WC2H 9LN.
This is just around the corner from Neal Street East (literally). Phone
is (0171) 836 2111. They have a selection (NOT complete) of Dover's
origami books. I'm not sure about books published by John Montroll as
Antroll.

> the books as I have the ISBNs but I'd much rather support a shop that's
> actually willing to stock them if it's at all possible. I'm
> particularly after John Montroll's 'Chinese Zodiac'.

When I've asked for Dover books not on the shelves at the Dover bookshop the
impression I've formed is that they don't offer any advantages over the major
chains (Waterstones, Dillons, ...)

Hope this helps,

Richard K.
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)

PS If you've not joined the British Origami Society, then you should do this
asap. Send a message to Penny Groom on this mailing list if you would like
further information.





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:09:16 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pat Slider <slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us>
Subject: Bookstore sites for foreign titles.

Interested in some British titles? See

www.bookshop.co.uk

A British online bookstore along the lines of Amazon.com, and they do ship
overseas. (For the U.S., shipping would be seven pounds for the first book,
plus 3.50 pounds for subsequent books. Estimated delivery time is 5-8 days.)

Also for German, Spanish, and Dutch titles:

www.bookserve.com

but their shipping isn't as impressive. They do give a 25 percent discount
on the shipping if the order is greater than $200. Maybe various folding
groups could order together? Still....

Both of these bookstore's engines pulled up a nice, long list of origami
titles too. Wish I knew more about some of these authors. And
www.bookshop.co.uk even listed "Origami for the Conoisseur"!

Thought someone might find these of interest....I myself have spent all my
origami $$$ at fascinating-folds.com this month, never hurts to plan ahead
though :->. I've bookmarked them....

pat slider
slider@yosemite.net





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:14:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Why one thousand?  Why cranes?

Just a few quick jottings:

The crane is a highly respected creature in
Japanese culture. The spring arrival is a
sign of hope for the new year, the harvest, etc.

"1000 cranes" started out as a symbol of
good luck/good health/long life; the "peace
symbol" is more "recent", arising from the
Hiroshima connection.

"1000 cranes" symbolizes/confers good luck/
good health/long life on the recipient (hence
use as a "get well card") as well the folder,
The recipient being the primary "beneficiary".

Why a thousand? Nice round number. "Live for a
1000 years", etc. Cranes, like many large birds,
make long term pairings, and are long-lived.

By the way, the "original" of the crane, ie.
the real bird, is endangered, just like our
USA national sysmbol; great efforts are being
made to preserve the necessary wetlands and
keep the cranes coming back.

--valerie





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:30:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pat Slider <slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us>
Subject: foreign exchange rates

Well as extra info to my last posting, here is a nice site for the latest
monetary exchange rates:

http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/b.rosenberg/pound/index.html

Lists pounds and yen, etc.

At the bottom of the page is a 10 a.m. estimate link:

 gopher://una.hh.lib.umich.edu:70/00/ebb/monetary/tenfx.frb

 which lists the Federal Reserve rates for today. For your info, the 10 a.m.
listing for "Pounds sterling" on July 9 is 1.5524.

So that shipping from the British bookstore to the U.S. was $10.87 for the
first book, $4.66 for subsequent books. Seems a great deal for 5-8 day
delivery time. (I shall probably send in an order sooner than I thought; I
found that they have all of Jill Barklem's children's titles, which are hard
while.)

By the way, I apologize for the U.S. slant on these postings. I would like
to point out to  the person asking about Dover books in London that the
Internet Book Shop does seem to carry Dover titles; although not the lastest
Montroll title.

Back to the real world,

pat slider





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:51:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: R. Lang's ACM presentation - how do I get reprints?

> A few months back, R. Lang mentioned that he was giving a talk on
> origami at one of the ACM meetings...
> So, does anyone know:
>
> 1) Exact title of the paper?
> 2) ACM publication or conference assocation?

The paper is titled, "A Computational Algorithm for Origami Design," and
appears in the proceedings of the 1996 Annual Symposium on Computational
Geometry, sponsored by the Society for Computational Geometry (SCG). I don't
think it's available electronically from the ACM.

To answer the next inevitable question: yes, it does exist in electronic form
(PostScript), but no, the copyright policy of the ACM doesn't permit posting
the electronic paper in unlimited-distribution sites (e.g., the archives),
although private emails are okay. Screwy. Anyhow, if you want a copy, email
me (privately) with your address (be forewarned, it's about 1 MB) and when
I've accumulated a few names, I'll do a mass mailing.

Robert J. Lang
rjlang@aol.com





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:53:27 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: scanning in diagams (again)

> The only way i will scan them in is if the designer, not the diagrammer,
> agrees to have them put in digital form...
> Chris Miller
> origamicmm@aol.com

If the diagrammer is not the designer, you'd better ask both.

Robert J. Lang
rjlang@aol.com





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:58:02 -0300 (ADT)
From: Douglas Tucker <dhtucker@spdmail.spd.dsccc.com>
Subject: Re: Dollar Modules Available

Does anyone remember this from January last year? ...

David Torok wrote:
>
> Hi everyone!
>
>   At the end of November I mentioned my two Dollar Modules and that I would
> draw them up after January 1.  Well, I've finished creating the diagrams
> and now I have them available!  Several of you have sent me SASE, and I will
> send the diagrams out as soon as I can get over to the post office to get
> some 3-cent stamps.
>
>   If anyone else would like a copy, send me a SASE (remember, 32-cent stamps
> now!) at:
>
>   Dave Torok, 55 McKinley Avenue  # D2-15, White Plains, NY 10606
>
> Here are the module descriptions again:
>
>   - Dollar Module I (George in a square.  Module is the same general shape
>     as the typical "sonobe module")
>   - Dollar Module II (George in a diamond)
>
> -=$>DaveTorok<$=-

Well, I finally got around to sending off my SASE (ok, so I'm running a little
slow), but instead of getting diagrams for dollar modules, I got the latest
Origami USA catalog and an application to join (I'm already a member).  The
e-mail address in the original message (torok@nynexst.com) doesn't bounse, but
doesn't reply, either.

I'd like to have these diagrams, but I hesitate to throw good SASEs after bad.
Can anyone explain?  Color me clueless,
                              Doug
--
Doug Tucker, aka dhtucker@spd.dsccc.com (DSC Communications Corporation)
Opinions expressed are mine, not DSC's -- unless they become profitable





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:59:33 -0300 (ADT)
From: Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com
Subject: back to the math & music discussion...

Non-Origami Content!

For those of you who enjoyed the math and music discussion a while back,
you might want to take a look at Jim Henle's article "Classical Mathematics"
in the January 1996 issue of The American Mathematical Monthly. In this
article, he discusses his vision of the connection between math and music--
rather different from the usual vision. (His visions are often different from
the usual vision--he was one of my many advisors at Smith College.) Unlike
the usual article in AMM, this is reasonably accesible to the average reader.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:10:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kim Best <kb9727@u.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: Apology (was Re: Enterprise)

On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Marc wrote:

> I just wanted to apologize for sending out two *enterprise* files to the
> people who asked. My PC crashed (running too many applications), and I did
> not think the file went  through the first time. For those of yoiu who had
> difficulty handling the large file, you can head over to
> alt.binaries.pictures.origami, where I posted the file in smaller chunks.
> Marc
>
Can't get it.  Any chance of uploading it to the ftp site?

Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *    Curse you Robert!!       *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   *  Now my apartment is being  *
420 Chipeta Way #120                *    Overrun with insects!    *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:15:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: classified models

ooohhhh another poll (although I just realized I never responded to the "other
interests" poll... oh well)

1) Classic model - what everyone should know - crane or flapping bird
2) Quick Show Off - One of my favorites (depending on what group of people I
  happen to be with) is the Space Shuttle by Kawasaki in OftC.
3) Action - favorite, simple one is the Topsy Turvy in Origami for Parties by
   Someone and Yamaguchi
4) Modular - Omega Star
5) Realistic - Just about anything by Lang or Montroll, but one that I can do
   from memory is.... hmmmm... not available to my brain at the moment... :-)
   Perhaps Edwin Corrie's Koala in Lang's "Origami Animals" still sort of
   simplistic, but I have never had anyone mistake it for something else! ;-)

Dee
blynch@du.edu





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:23:12 -0300 (ADT)
From: marckrsh@nyc.pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: Enterprise and Klingon bird-of-prey

On Jul 10, 1996 00:32:23, 'sychen@leatherback.nist.gov (S.Y. Chen)' wrote:

>
>I saw Marc's Enterprise in OUSA Convention this year. I thought it was
>Jeremy Shafer's design at that time. I can hardly tell the difference. Can

>Marc shade some light on the difference between Marc's and Shafer's
design?

Sure. I can see at first glance the two models can be confused, but they
are different. On a general structural level, the models are similar, but
are very different in terms of the folding techniques used. Jeremy used
multiple reverse folds that are parallel (sort of like box-pleating). Mine
is not quite so straight foward, as it employs the stretching and sinking
of bird-base-like flaps. Jeremy added a bit more detail to his, while I
opted for a simpler appearence.

Marc





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:24:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kim Best <kb9727@u.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: scanning in diagams (again)

On Wed, 10 Jul 1996 OrigamiCMM@aol.com wrote:

> each individual person, but to just my ftp site (until my page is finished)
> and you will
> download them from there.  If you can't do an ftp thing, i prolly will
just

Where is your ftp site?  I tried:

ftp users.aol.com
then
cd origamicmm

but I got a message that the directory doesn't exist.

Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *    Curse you Robert!!       *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   *  Now my apartment is being  *
420 Chipeta Way #120                *    Overrun with insects!    *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:54:27 -0300 (ADT)
From: Michael & Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@cris.com>
Subject: Re: R. Lang's ACM presentation - how do I get reprints?

Rjlang@aol.com wrote:

> Screwy. Anyhow, if you want a copy, email
> me (privately) with your address (be forewarned, it's about 1 MB) and when
> I've accumulated a few names, I'll do a mass mailing.
>

Robert,

I'd like to read the presentation.  Please email to my work id as it can handle
     larger files:

jjhamilton@attmail.com

Thanks!
Janet Hamilton





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:22:40 -0300 (ADT)
From: altj@cix.compulink.co.uk (Al Jardes)
Subject: Email of "A Computational Algorithm for Origami Design,"

Robert,

I would appreciate a copy at your leisure. Thanks for your time and the
effort involved in this. I look forward to reading it.

Kind regards

Rocky Jardes
altj@cix.compulink.co.uk





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:49:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: OrigamiCMM@aol.com
Subject: Re: scanning in diagams (again)

In a message dated 96-07-10 17:26:35 EDT, you write:

<< Where is your ftp site?  I tried:

 ftp users.aol.com
 then
 cd origamicmm

 but I got a message that the directory doesn't exist.
  >>
Well, It doesn't exist at the moment.  I had the jpg and gif file...but i
deleted it when i changed versions of AOL *slap!*  So, i need someone who i
sent it to send it to me, in either jpg or gif, then i can convert it.  so
when Dee gives me permission to scan in the klingon, i will, and put it on my
ftp site!   (it would either be users.aol.com/origamicmm/ or
users.aol.com/cm317/ [but i will tell you which])

origamicmm@aol.com
Chris Miller
[ps i just got "Joyful Origami Boxes" by Tomoko Fuse today...looks like fun!]





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:15:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Sergei Alfonkin

Does anyone have a current email address?  My message came back undeliverable?
Thank you -
Bren
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:43:58 -0300 (ADT)
From: reeds@openix.com (Reeds Family)
Subject: Re: top 10 models classified

Either for action models or quick showoff--I put in a plug for Florence
Temko's Squawking Bird. Any time I'm around  kids who need to be
distracted, I fold a couple of these without saying what I'm making, let
them name them, and run around making them squawk or bite each other. By
the way, If I start with a rectangle, I use the strip leftover from making
the square, cut it in half ALMOST all the way lengthwise, and fold
two-joined strips back and forth into a spring, that is to say, into a worm
(in our family, this is known not as worm, but as a baby bouncer) for the
squawking bird to gobble. Make enough birds and you can slide the "wing"
of one into the wing of another and make a crown of birds.

After seeing Laura Kruskal's modular crown on several heads at tht e OUSA
convention and trying it out with some kids later, I'd add that to my
personal list of favorites.

Karen Reeds





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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:31:52 -0300 (ADT)
From: sychen@leatherback.nist.gov (S.Y. Chen)
Subject: Re: R. Lang's ACM presentation - how do I get reprints?

>Rjlang@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Screwy. Anyhow, if you want a copy, email
>> me (privately) with your address (be forewarned, it's about 1 MB) and when
>> I've accumulated a few names, I'll do a mass mailing.
>>
>

Robert,

Is this the algorithm used in TreeMaker? Or different issue?

Thanks!

Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. SY)
E-Mail: chens@iia.org or sychen@mailserver.nist.gov
http://roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~sychen/origami/pprfld.htm





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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:03:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Why one thousand?  Why cranes?

Laurie & Bruce <bastian@nis.net> sez

>2) Why a crane? (I know it is a symbol of peace)  Why not some other
>model?  I think a thousand frogs would be stunning.

You've answered your own question. The spritual significance would be
somewhat lost with frogs, IMHO. 1000 Cuckoo Clocks would be impressive
though - send me a photo when you've finished ;)

all the best,

Nick Robinson
nick@homelink.demon.co.uk

                           ***  Origami Deutschland!   ***





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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:10:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jose Tomas Buitrago <buitrago@maxwell.univalle.edu.co>
Subject: Re: Email of "A Computational Algorithm for Origami Design,"

Hello.
I want to have more information about it. Where can I find the Algorithm
for write it in a language like C ?

Thank you for the soon and further information

Jose Tomas Buitrago
buitrago@maxwell.univalle.edu.co





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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:48:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: Wayne Ko <Herman_Ko@mindlink.bc.ca>
Subject: Ooohs and Ahhhs (Classifying)

I think that it will be impossible to get everyone to agree on the top ten
models etc. with the diversity of folders and models.  However, here are
some of my favorites that get people's attention and induces all those ooohs
and ahhhs. (I'm doing this from memory - so please forgive me if I spell
names wrong and/or make wrong references.)

The flapping bird was the model that first got me interested in origami and
I find that it still fascinates the novices, especially children.

A step up in difficulty, but well worth the effort is Max Hulme's
Jack-in-the-Box (pattern is in Kenneway's Complete Origami).  This one
impresses the kids and the adults.

When I teach or show a group of people how to make a model, the waterbomb
seems to give people the most pleasure (provided they have never made it
before); it is a fairly simple fold that beginners can follow without too
much difficulty.  The "breathing life" at the end to give the model fullness
is an experience that the folders just love.  Also, when I am working with
children, they flip when I tell them they can fill it with water.

In my office, I have a display of several complex models with their
simplified network pattern.  The one that always catch people's interest is
a beetle by John Montroll (from Origami for the Connosieur by Kasahara - the
diagrams are not a 100% clear, but if you look at Montroll's Origami
Sculptures, you will find a better rendering of the initial base) - for some
reason, people always gravitate to it, even though there are more
complicated folds on display.

Recently, I bought a beginner's book: Origami Plain and Simple by Neale, and
found that there are many simple models that are sure to tickle people's
fancy. I normally skip these simpler books, because they no longer offer a
challenge to me, but this one even made me drool a bit - these simple models
seem to have a charm to them.

Happy folding,

Wayne Ko





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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:24:44 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@leatherback.nist.gov>
Subject: Re: Ooohs and Ahhhs (Classifying)

At 02:49 PM 7/11/96 -0300, you wrote:

>The flapping bird was the model that first got me interested in origami and
>I find that it still fascinates the novices, especially children.
>

My 3-yr-old daughter is fascinated by the flapping bird also.

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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:32:32 -0300 (ADT)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Ooohs and Ahhhs (Classifying)

>When I teach or show a group of people how to make a model, the waterbomb
>seems to give people the most pleasure (provided they have never made it
>before); it is a fairly simple fold that beginners can follow without too
>much difficulty.  The "breathing life" at the end to give the model fullness
>is an experience that the folders just love.  Also, when I am working with
>children, they flip when I tell them they can fill it with water.

        I've found that the kids enjoy stories about how the oriental
children did/do fold the waterbomb from stiffer rice papers, catch flies,
and push the flies through the opening into the interior of the model.  The
stiffer paper will vibrate with the same resonance as the fly's wings
(they're being bombarded with the air molecules moved by the fly) and
amplify the buzz, so they have a little "buzz box."  I've never tried doing
this though (I have a hard enough time catching the flies!  8-)  )

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

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And no one knows just where or when the next one will be found."

                                  -- Calvin (aka Bill Watterson)
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                         .---_'''/:::::\''/:::\----.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:16:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@pb.net>
Subject: Re: Why one thousand?  Why cranes?

According to an old National Geographic, cranes were said to live
1000 years (it'sactually closer to a human's lifespan) hence, by
making 1000 cranes, you're guaranteed a long life.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:36:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: R. Lang's ACM presentation - how do I get reprints?

Concerning my ACM paper, "A Computational Algorithm for Origami Design,"
SYChen wrote:

> Is this the algorithm used in TreeMaker? Or different issue?

It provides the mathematical underpinnings of the algorithms used in
TreeMaker -- theorems and proofs, a few constructions, and also includes a
few examples from TreeMaker.

Robert J. Lang
rjlang@aol.com





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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:31:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: Dexteron2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Enterprise and Klingon bird-of-prey

I would like to be sent the Enterprise diagrams as well. Thank you.

-Hammer Down-





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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:17:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: eps, ps -> pdf?

A few weeks ago during a PostScript-vs-pdf thread, one of the pdf proponents
volunteered to convert people's PostScript files to pdf format. I've been
curious to see if the custom PS line styles that John and I have used in our
books would survive this conversion process. If said volunteer is willing to
do the conversion, would he/she contact me, and I'll send you a test file for
conversion (I have the Acrobat reader to view the results). (Would you prefer
.ps or .eps?) I'll report the results on the 'list.

Robert J. Lang
rjlang@aol.com





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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 05:36:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: Charles Knuffke <knuffke@sirius.com>
Subject: Re: eps, ps -> pdf?

At 7:17 PM -0800 on 7/11/96, Rjlang@aol.com wrote:

> A few weeks ago during a PostScript-vs-pdf thread, one of the pdf proponents
> volunteered to convert people's PostScript files to pdf format. I've been
> curious to see if the custom PS line styles that John and I have used in our
> books would survive this conversion process. If said volunteer is willing to
> do the conversion, would he/she contact me, and I'll send you a test file for
> conversion (I have the Acrobat reader to view the results). (Would you prefer
> .ps or .eps?) I'll report the results on the 'list.
>
> Robert J. Lang
> rjlang@aol.com

Robert:

I sent you a message several weeks back offering to give the PS -> PDF
converters a test using one of your files. If you're interested, send me a
.ps file, and I'll run it thru Adobe's Distiller and E-Mail it back to you.
My gut feel is that if the postscript engine inside a printer can decipher
one of your .ps files, than Distiller should also be able too. Be
interestng to see how it performs.

Regards,

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Charles Knuffke       "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"
153 Divisadero                                  -Jack Kerouac
San Francisco CA 94104
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:42:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: Javier Cubero <jcubero@magicnet.net>
Subject: Re: Ooohs and Ahhhs (Classifying)

Wayne Ko wrote:
> When I teach or show a group of people how to make a model, the waterbomb
> seems to give people the most pleasure (provided they have never made it
> before); it is a fairly simple fold that beginners can follow without too
> much difficulty.  The "breathing life" at the end to give the model fullness
> is an experience that the folders just love.  Also, when I am working with
> children, they flip when I tell them they can fill it with water.

My favorite waterbomb trick (I have 4 cats) - Fill with catnip instead of water.
The cats will bat the thing all over the house, chew on it, roll on it, and
generally have a grand time.

> In my office, I have a display of several complex models

Me too.  My Kawasaki Rose with Joseph Wu's base attracts the most attention from
the women, while the men seem to gravitate to the Patricia Crawford three-masted
ship.

> Recently, I bought a beginner's book: Origami Plain and Simple by Neale, and
> found that there are many simple models that are sure to tickle people's
> fancy. I normally skip these simpler books, because they no longer offer a
> challenge to me, but this one even made me drool a bit - these simple models
> seem to have a charm to them.

Thank you for reminding us that simple folds can still be rewarding to make, and
charming.  I'm one of those technical folders that has to make each model harder
than the last (currently stuck on deep-sea angler), and I think I'm going to get
Mr. Neale's book and enjoy some good old-fashioned origami that doesn't make you
tear your hair out trying to fold it.





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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:45:19 -0300 (ADT)
From: Javier Cubero <jcubero@magicnet.net>
Subject: Re: eps, ps -> pdf?

Rjlang@aol.com wrote:
>
> A few weeks ago during a PostScript-vs-pdf thread, one of the pdf proponents
> volunteered to convert people's PostScript files to pdf format. I've been
> curious to see if the custom PS line styles that John and I have used in our
> books would survive this conversion process. If said volunteer is willing to
> do the conversion, would he/she contact me, and I'll send you a test file for
> conversion (I have the Acrobat reader to view the results). (Would you prefer
> .ps or .eps?) I'll report the results on the 'list.
I was very excited to discover that the latest version of Ghostscript (4.0)
includes both ps->pdf and pdf->ps converters.  It's available from their home
page at:
        http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/

If aforementioned volunteer is no longer volunteering, you can still check this
out for yourself.  I plan to try converting a couple files, I'll post my
     results.
Alternately, Robert, if you don't have time to get the program, I'll be glad to
convert it for you, but (Disclaimer) I haven't tried this before.

Javier Cubero
jcubero@magicnet.net





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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:25:59 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@leatherback.nist.gov>
Subject: Re: eps, ps -> pdf?

At 12:18 AM 7/12/96 -0300, you wrote:
>A few weeks ago during a PostScript-vs-pdf thread, one of the pdf proponents
>volunteered to convert people's PostScript files to pdf format. I've been
>curious to see if the custom PS line styles that John and I have used in our
>books would survive this conversion process. If said volunteer is willing to
>do the conversion, would he/she contact me, and I'll send you a test file for
>conversion (I have the Acrobat reader to view the results). (Would you prefer
>.ps or .eps?) I'll report the results on the 'list.
>
>Robert J. Lang
>rjlang@aol.com
>
>

I am willing to try it to convert ps(eps) to pdf using Ghostscript 4.0. It
is not available yet for MAC version. The file must be Ghostscript savvy anyway.
I would love to see the comparison between pdf files from Ghostcript and
Distiller.
Please e-mail me privately.

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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:23:00 -0300 (ADT)
From: contract@nyc.pipeline.com (Contractors Exchange)
Subject: Enterprise diagrams at FTP site

Due to an overwhelming request rate, I have decided to post the GIF files
of my *Enterprise* to the FTP site. Right now they are in the incoming
directory. They will probably be moved to the binary directory. Marc





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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 15:31:02 -0300 (ADT)
From: Sheila Davis <sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Ooohs and Ahhhs (Classifying)

>
> Wayne Ko wrote:
> My favorite waterbomb trick (I have 4 cats) - Fill with catnip instead of
     water.
> The cats will bat the thing all over the house, chew on it, roll on it, and
> generally have a grand time.
>
        :-) My cat *used* to bat around his catnip filled waterbomb, but
        he got smart (or some vague cat semblance of "smart").  Now whenever
        I make these special toys for him, we get about 15 seconds of batting
        followed by a origami confetti surrounding a very stoned cat :-)
Regards,

  Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
 sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado





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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:05:50 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Ooohs and Ahhhs (Classifying)

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   >
   > Wayne Ko wrote:
   > My favorite waterbomb trick (I have 4 cats) - Fill with catnip instead of
     water.
   > The cats will bat the thing all over the house, chew on it, roll on it, and
   > generally have a grand time.
   >
           :-) My cat *used* to bat around his catnip filled waterbomb, but
           he got smart (or some vague cat semblance of "smart").  Now whenever
           I make these special toys for him, we get about 15 seconds of batting
           followed by a origami confetti surrounding a very stoned cat :-)
   Regards,

     Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
    sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado

Try folding the waterbombs out of Tyvek.  It's virtually
indestructible.





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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:13:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: lsebasti@cclink.fhcrc.org (Lisa Sebastian)
Subject: Origami romance

   It is great to be back on this list after an absence of over a year!  I
   usually prefer to be a list lurker, but I thought I should share this
   story about my friends, Deborah and Alan.

   Three years ago, the three of us were all working in San Francisco's
   natural history museum, the California Academy of Sciences. Deborah and
   I shared an office in the entomology department there, and Alan was a
   postdoc in Invertebrate Zoology.  One day after a divisional meeting
   Alan came by, and he was holding a box behind his back.  He seemed
   disappointed that Deborah wasn't there, but he opened the box anyhow.
   He had folded a purple wasp!  I'd never seen such origami before.  I
   remembered the cootie catchers and water bombs from grammar school, but
   this was fantastic.

   Alan probably tried one or two more times before Deborah was actually
   in the office since she worked part-time.  We  all agreed that we
   should take an afternoon together to go see an origami exhibit put on
   by some SF area (Bay Area Rapid?) folders, and next Saturday we rode
   the street car to see the exhibit.  I was speechless when I saw all the
   intricate animals, module creations, and money folds.  We didn't have
   much money with us, but we were sure to buy some books, especially by
   Montroll and Lang.  The afternoon was memorable and inspiring.

   Alan's origami courtship was rewarded; I noticed that those two were
   becoming inseparable  At the same time, Deborah and I couldn't stop
   folding.  We were hooked!  Our office had been a library at one time,
   so the extra shelves rapidly were filled with origami figures.  I was
   sad when Alan moved away about four months later, and even sadder when
   Deborah followed him to the east coast four months after that.

   Alan got a job as curator at the American Museum of Natural History in
   New York and was very good to send me pictures of the incredible
   origami Christmas tree that is put up there every year.  I started
   wondering what the future would be for Deborah and Alan, and my
   question was answered last spring when they sent me a package that
   contained only a small plastic box of 1,000 small pieces of origami
   paper.  A note wasn't necessary; this was obviously the most
   appropriate engagement announcement possible!  My fingers are now very
   tired from folding so many cranes.

   They are getting married this November and plan to have some sort of
   origami theme - cake decoration, table decorations, guest participation
   at the reception, etc.

   I think that any story of origami bringing people together is a
   wonderful one, but considering the connection between Origami USA, the
   American Museum and also entomology, I think that this is an extra
   special story!

   If any one has any suggestions for cake/wedding decorations and so on,
   please write me at lsebasti@cclink.fhcrc.org

   Thanks!

   Lisa Sebastian
   lsebasti@cclink.fhcrc.org

   P.S. Now I live in Seattle and work at a cancer research center
   library.  I still prefer folding insects to folding proteins though.





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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:30:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: eps, ps -> pdf?

Just out of curiousity, why would one want
to convert a PDF file to PS?
(Given that Acrobat can print the PDF file
on any supported graphics printer?)

--valerie
