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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:00:15 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Kawasaki's rose and Origami for the Connoisseur (OftC)

Actually, I recall three versions of the "myth" or rumors about the
OftC Kawasaki rose on the mail list:

1. That Kawasaki had disclaimed it in a conversation with someone.
   I would have to research this in the back list traffic, but I
   believe Tom Hull may have been the one who mentioned this, as
   I had some exchanges (all friendly, BTW, and if I'm mistaken in
   attributing this to Tom, I apologize).

2. That the OftC DIAGRAMS are not correct, or not the way Kawasaki
   did/does it; and/or have mistakes. In this regard, whether or not
   the diagrams picture Kawasaki's method, I found it hard to believe
   that the rose in OftC was misattributed, but I did note that the
   diagrams are not quite right at the end for closing the underside
   and making the fully blooming rose with the outer ring of petals
   turned out, as pictured in OftC. I ended up modifying and rediagramming
   the final procedures in order to get the roses to look like the photos.
   This situation is entirely different, of course, than saying that the
   model "is not Kawasaki"s Rose".

3. I believe Tom Hull may also have said that Kawasaki actually makes
   his roses differently, and/or has another style of rose.

4. The realistic Rose of OftC, and discussions thereof are constantly
   confused here on the list (and elsewhere) with the Kawasaki Rose
   Tessellation (Twist Fold) pictured in Jacksons Encyclopedia (EofOaPT)

   The crystallization is a whole different thing. It is what I (and
   others) have reverse engineered as no diagrams exist). Mine and another
   solution appear in the list archives, and a more developed version of
   mine with a photo are on my web page. As I have said on my diagrams,
   I do not claim, nor am I sure, that my solution bears any resemblance
   to Kawasaki's own method. All too often there are multiple solutions
   for reverse engineering an origami model, especially highly geometric
   ones, yielding identical end results. I've done this for three other
   models in Jackson (Enigma, Proteus and Shen Dish), so I wouldn't be
   surprised if the Rose Tessellation was another case.

   I believe that Tom Hull was the source of information that there
   is a Second Rose Tessellation, more complex, and reportedly "better".

All of the above in the interest of accuracy: I don't think the art
benefits by perpetuation of "myths" and rumors, and since I have been
involved here in many of the discussions of both forms of "Kawasaki
Rose" models, I would hope to avoid being involved in muddling up
the picture any further than unfortunately it has become.

Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:35:44 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kim Best <kb9727@u.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: Pajarita = origami???

On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Steve Woodmansee wrote:

>         "Pajarita is Spanish for "little bird".  It is also the word that

Is it just me, or do others think this "little bird" looks like a cubist
seal?

Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *  "Pajarita, Pajarita...     *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   *    men have fold you... "   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * to the tune of "Mona Lisa"  *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:01:59 -0300 (ADT)
From: Eric Andersen <ema@netspace.org>
Subject: Re: Pajarita = origami, and origami menorah

On Tue, 25 Jun 1996 Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com wrote:

> Thanks Jeannine & Eric.
>
> Denying the truth of the factoid is almost as good as
> confirming its truth, and much more satisfying!
>
> Source for the traditional pajarita model, anyone?
> (This is less important than the original request.)

The section in "Complete Origami" that Steve posted is probably the best
history you can find on the model...asking for the origins of the pajarita
is like asking about the origins of the traditional crane; it was created
before I was around, and is probably at least 25 or 30 years old! :-)

Also, someone emailed me asking about an origami menorah (a candelabra
with seven candles). I'm sure I've seen one, but I can't remember where.
Does anybody know where I can find this model? Thanks!

-Eric  :-P

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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:40:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Kim Best <kb9727@u.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: New books in Japan

On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Joseph Wu wrote:

> Kawasaki's F14, Nishikawa's space shuttle, Kawahata's Anomalocaris (a
> prehistoric crustacean, it looks like--Jerry Harris, want to clarify
> this?)

What!  Jerry Harris looks like a prehistoric crustacean?  I guess to much
time spent studying prehistoric animal will do that to you.

Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *    Sorry, I just can't      *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   *    Resist a cheap joke.     *
420 Chipeta Way #120                *                             *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:49:59 -0300 (ADT)
From: Gretchen Klotz <gren@agora.rdrop.com>
Subject: Updates on My Webpages

Greetings -

After lots of work, my new and updated web pages are ready for public
viewing!  I have been trying to get them ready before everyone left for
the OUSA convention, so you could have a preview of Michael Shall's AIDS
Memorial Quilt panel.  I donated a more formal display about the panel to
OUSA, which will be shown at the convention.  Unfortunately, the panel
itself could not be displayed there -- it is being sewn into the rest of
the Quilt in preparation for the complete showing in Washington, DC, in
October (although it *could* be requested for future conventions!).

My reorganized web pages were inspired by how Bob Shuster *used* to have
his hot list organized (have I missed it Bob?), mainly by separating my
Paper Boxes "business" page from the other origami I do.  Hopefully this
will allow more accuracy and flexibility for other links.  Michael's quilt
panel has a separate page, like the Crane Project.  Summaries and complete
URLs appear below.

My home page is located at the following address; simply *add* the address
listed to the end to go directly to one of the other pages:

http://www.ogi.edu/~gren/       Minor updates reflect the changes in my
                          life during the last 6 months.  Includes
                          my favorite (non-origami) booklist.

        michael-shall.html     New Page!  Contains photos and the story
                          of creating an AIDS Memorial
                          Quilt panel for Michael Shall, co-founder
                          of Origami USA.

        other-origami.html     New Page!  Contains lots of photos of my
                          work and others (including Kathryn
                          Burlingham and Jennifer Andre).  Also
                          contains directions for embossing paper,
                          and an electronic copy of "Origami
                          Resources in the Pacific Northwest."

        origami.html     Updated to include only information on
                          my business, Paper Boxes.  New photos!
                          Contains a "Unit Origami Bibliography."

        cranes.html       Updated slightly to include a link to the
                          letters that were sent with the cranes.
                          Still no news about where they are (and
                          I'm not planning to pursue them).

If you take a look, let me know what you think!  Thanks.

Since I am in no danger of earning my living through selling origami, I am
unable to attend the convention.  I am sad to miss this opportunity to
meet so many contributors to this list -- but I'm holding out for the
first West Coast Convention next year!  I hope all of you who are going
arrive safely, and I look forward to all the sleepy posts next week.  Have
a great time!

- Gretchen, delighted to be done staring at the computer screen for awhile

--
gren@agora.rdrop.com         http://www.ogi.edu/~gren/





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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:09:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: New books in Japan

>On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Joseph Wu wrote:
>
>> Kawasaki's F14, Nishikawa's space shuttle, Kawahata's Anomalocaris (a
>> prehistoric crustacean, it looks like--Jerry Harris, want to clarify
>> this?)
>
>What!  Jerry Harris looks like a prehistoric crustacean?  I guess to much
>time spent studying prehistoric animal will do that to you.

        Well, you know how, after a while, people start to resemble their
pets?  Same principle at work here.  I've done numerous guest appearances
on such shows as _Star Trek_, _Dr. Who_, etc. as one of the inevitable
lobster-like alien beings.  However, having those palpating mandibles
hanging off the front of my face _does_ make kissing my fiancee an
interesting event...  ;-)

        BTW, Kim, where exactly in Salt Lake is your workplace?  My fiancee
currently lives in Price, and she and I've been in SLC fairly often.

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

"Tyrannosaurs, though rarely seen, are certainly still around.
And no one knows just where or when the next one will be found."

                                  -- Calvin (aka Bill Watterson)
                                    .    .
                              .-_  / \  /'\ .
                             /'''\/:::\/'''/:\
                         .---_'''/:::::\''/:::\----.
 .  .            .    .  \::: \''\:::::/''\:::/'__/_ .
 \\_\\_       /\/:\/\/:\/ \_:::\__\---/----\_/'/ :::/
  \ \\_\______\_\_/\/\_/\__\\_/    o  o  o  \_/::::/ ___ .
   \___\__________              o           o    \//''''/
                  \______     o                o   \''_/   _----_
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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:05:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: Grace Chiu <chiug@cognos.com>
Subject: Finally Got Origami for the Connoisseur/ORU Diagrams Book 2

Thanks to whomever on this list said that Kinokuniya in NY was selling
Origami for the Connoisseur.  I called them up and sure enough after
spelling out "connoisseur" (the guy thought I was asking for "Origami
for Dinosaurs" -- didn't think they were that dextrous), they came up
with the book that I've been trying to get for a whole year.  I am now
enjoying it very much and find great consolation in it since I can't go
to the OUSA convention this year.

While I had them on the phone, I also asked for ORU Diagrams Book #2
and he sent me the Spring 1996 (Volume No. 12) issue, which is okay but
not what I was looking for. A colleague from work is going to Japan
soon.  What does the diagrams book look like?  Last year's was beige
with burgundy printing on the cover. Is there a specific colour photo
inside the book of something significant that would definitely identify
the book?

With Thanks,

Grace





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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:08:30 -0300 (ADT)
From: Marty Katz <mandrk@pb.net>
Subject: Re: An interesting paper to try

If you haven't folded with Plasti-foil yet, you should give it a try.
This is a plastic coated foil (sorry Nick) that is sold at florist
supply stores. It is very strong and pliable and has the amazing
property of allowing mistakes to be ironed out. Of course you have
to handle it carefully or your guide line folds disappear too.
You can almost sculpt your model at the end. Dragons, dinosaurs
insects etc. work well although the final model is a bit soft.

It comes in rolls 20 inches wide by thirty feet long. Most of the
colors are backed with green, although around Thanksgiving
I got some with copper and gold design on the front and gold on
the back. Expect to pay between $5 and $10 per roll.

I understand that June Sakamoto will be selling some at the
convention "vendors area." Michael Verry has folded several
of the complex models in this year's annual from this paper.
They and others will be on a display of the models from this
year's book. Also,  those of you who took "The Last Waltz"
class at last year's convention folded with the florist
foil in addition to the black American foil.
Origami. It's not just for squares!





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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:08:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: Vincent & Veronique <osele@worldnet.fr>
Subject: Re: LEGO's

In an old convention book, I've got the diagrams of a Lego set from
Pascuale D'AURIA. There is about 10 sort of pieces.
To fold external an internal cube, you define the top square and
start to fold the four face of the cube. The diagonal paper are fold
by two fold around the diagonal and one repleat:

       | Face|  SQUARE HERE
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
       |   _/|
       . _/ /.    face
- - - - /  / |
         \/._._ _ _ _ _
         |   |
         |   .

Same fold for each corner...

The internal cube is quite similar with a three added fold around the
corner:

       | Face|  SQUARE HERE
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
      /|   _/|
     / . _/ /.    face
- - /- -/  / |
     \   \/._._ _ _ _ _
      .  |  /|
        \|/  .
         |   |

Not easy with ascii :-))

Vincent
 _______                                                     _____
|       | Osele Vincent                   Membre du MFPP    /|    |
|       | osele@worldnet.fr                                /_|    |
|       | http://www.worldnet.fr/~osele/origami.htm       |       |
|_______| -----------------> ORIGAMI -------------------> |_______|





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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:09:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Javier Cubero <jcubero@magicnet.net>
Subject: Origami Bagpipes!?

My wife has recently taken up the bagpipe, and when I asked her what
I should fold next, she inevitably said, "How about origami bagpipes,
with a nice plaid paper?"  Now this sounds like a lot of fun, but of
course I have no diagrams for an origami bagpipe.  It shouldn't be too
hard to develop, if I had to, but I'm hoping a model already exists
out there.  How about it, folks?

===WARNING!===
Bad ASCII bagpipes follow.

   ==
   || ==
   || ||
   || || ==
   || || ||
   || || ||
  /--------\
  |         \
  \_________\\
             \\
              \\
               ==

Javier Cubero
jcubero@magicnet.net





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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:09:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Na. (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi)" <nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Misnomer: Kabuto Mushi

In mail <1.5.4.16.19960626094324.2f87593a@mailserver.nist.gov>
    "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@leatherback.nist.gov> wrote:
> At 08:12 AM 6/26/96 -0300, NAKANISHI-San wrote:

> My dictionary matched "kabuto" with two kanji's:
>
> (1)Helmet - Chinese don't use this character for Helmet
>      *   *
>     **  *    ***
>   *** ******   *
>   *   *    *   *
>   *   *    *   *
>   *   ******   *
>   *   *    *   *
>   *   *    *   *
>   *** ****** ***
>
>       *   *
>       *   *
>      **   *
>     **    *     *
>    **     **   **
>  ***       *****

This Kanji is used only for "Kabuto-mushi".  And...

> (2) carapace, shell, armour - same kanji for Chinese
>
>
>  **************
>  *     *      *
>  *     *      *
>  *     *      *
>  **************
>  *     *      *
>  *     *      *
>  *     *      *
>  **************
>        *
>        *
>        *
>        *
>        *
>        *

This Kanji is used for BOTH "Kabuto-mushi" and "Kouchuu".  This seems to make a
     confusion.  This Kanji has two meanings; a helmet and an armor.

In mail <960626105737_422102081@emout07.mail.aol.com>
    Rjlang@aol.com wrote:
> By the way, though, I seem to recall that the traditional samurai helmet
> model is called a "Kabuto". Is this correct?

Yes, that's correct.  Traditional samurai helmet for king and commander has one
     or more horns on it.

For those who have never seen Japanese most famous Kabuto-mushi;
this beetle has a long horn branching into four at the end on its
head, and a short horn branching into two at the end on its thorax.

                           ------  ------------
                          |      --            |
        --.              |       |              |
        ---.___________O-|  --._ |-_____________|
        ---'           O-|  --'  |-             |
        --'              |       |              |
                          |      --            |
                            -----  ------------

        ====== head =====|thorax |== abdomen ==
        Six legs are on the bottom of thorax, but omitted.

--
nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi, not Kenichi Nakanishi)





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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:09:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Lauinger,p15" <Lauinger@06.bonn02.telekom400.dbp.de>
Subject: Tea bag or Theezakjes

Hi,
In the Netherlands you find a lot of books about tea bag
origami. One title is
Originelle Wensideeen mit Theezakjes by Tiny von der Plas
Editor: Doeboekjes
Prize: NFL 9.95
It is used for the decoration of cards, because the
foldings are very easy, you can also use - for my opinion -
multicolour origami paper (size 5cm).

Enjoy your foldings

Doris





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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:26:42 -0300 (ADT)
From: Sandra Wambold <wambold@pobox.COM>
Subject: Re: Finally Got Origami for the Connoisseur/ORU Diagrams Book 2

The second ORU diagrams book has the same "look" to the cover, just a
different ink.  I bought mine from Sasuga, since I go there to take
Japanese anyways.  I'll check my copy when I get home for
distinguishing pictures.

-Sandy
wambold@pobox.com





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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:55:13 -0300 (ADT)
From: OrigamiCMM@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pajarita = origami???

papiroflexia = origami

Chris Miller
origamicmm@aol.com





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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:46:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: robmon@mbox.vol.it (Roberto Monaco)
Subject: Legos

I'm curious to known what origami lego diagrams are
thanks
Maria Rita Saggese
 Salerno, Italy
Roberto Monaco
via G. Vacca 6
84100 Salerno (Italy)
tel. +39-89-711081





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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 19:10:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: Howard Portugal <howardp@fast.net>
Subject: Convention Schedule (Again)

Sorry to repeat the message, but I'm trying to figure out when I want to
get to NYC tomorrow (Fri.) and I seem to have misplaced my convention
schedule and I'd like to know what's going on when. Would somebody please
be kind enough to post the daily schedule (not the classes, but when
things like registration,ticketing, Origami Source etc. open and close)
for each day (Fri, Sat,Sun and Mon) to the list?

Thanks again,

Howard Portugal





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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:09:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pam & Namir <pgraben@umich.edu>
Subject: "Look!..."

Lately, I've been folding a bunch, and have had the unique experience of
     walking around, and pointing to things at random, saying to my fiance "I
     can fold that!"  Pointing to birds in the air, my Swiss Army Knife, a
     mallard duck dunking his head, butterfl

!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-
     !

Pamela Graben,         We and the world, see, we got
Namir Gharaibeh                this understanding!

          pgraben@umich.edu





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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:17:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: jjhamilton@juno.com (Janet J Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Convention Schedule (Again)

> Would somebody please
>be kind enough to post the daily schedule (not the classes, but when
>things like registration,ticketing, Origami Source etc. open and
>close) for each day (Fri, Sat,Sun and Mon) to the list?

Fri:
7pm - open house
7-9pm Registration
7-10:30pm Origami Source
7-10:30pm Gold Mine
1am building closes

Janet Hamilton





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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 03:37:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Lauinger,p15" <Lauinger@06.bonn02.telekom400.dbp.de>
Subject: Lego

P. d'Auria's Lego diagram is published in the O(rigami)
S(ocieteit)N(ederland)'s magazin <Orison> #3, page 75, and
#4, page 92.
Enjoy your folding

Doris





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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 07:34:15 -0300 (ADT)
From: David Holmes <cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.UK>
Subject: Temporarily incommunicado

Hi all,

Oh no, it had to happen!  I have to leave this list for a while, now that
I've finished university for this year.  But as some of you know, I am
starting a work placement with Ciba Geigy in Switzerland, in August.

Hopefully, I will be able to re-subscribe from there.

So to keep myself occupied throughout July, when I'm not sat in front of
the TV catching up with Star Trek: Voyager, Sliders and enjoying Friends,
I am going to try some more complex models from OftC.  I'm also going to
have a try at making some tissue foil and diagramming my new creations, etc.

Well then, gotta go.  Talk to you all real soon I hope.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
           David M Holmes

 email://cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk   <---- no longer valid really ! :)
 http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162





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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:34:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jacob Metzger <Origami@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Other Pursuits

Backgammon, and hiking! When I can, I try to combine my hobbies - sitting on
top of a mountain, folding and/or playing a friendly game, aaaaaahhhhh,
nirvana....

Yaacov Metzger
PS sorry if this is a repeat, it never showed up...
Yaacov Metzger
Origami@worldnet.att.net





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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:54:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: VickyAV@aol.com
Subject: RE>Convention Schedule (Aga

Attn: origami-l@nstn.ca
SentBy: Victoria Avery

Date    6/27/96
Subject RE>Convention Schedule (Aga
From    Victoria Avery

RE>Convention Schedule (Again)
Howard wrote
Sorry to repeat the message, but I'm trying to figure out when I want to
get to NYC tomorrow (Fri.) and I seem to have misplaced my convention
schedule and I'd like to know what's going on when. Would somebody please
be kind enough to post the daily schedule (not the classes, but when
things like registration,ticketing, Origami Source etc. open and close)
for each day (Fri, Sat,Sun and Mon) to the list?

Hi Howard-
I hope you rec'd the info already (everyone's probably already in NY and I'll
be there Sat. am) but just in case:

Friday
Open House begins 7pm
Registration 7-9pm
Origami Source  7-10:30 pm
Gold Mine  7-10:30 pm
Exit 1 am

Saturday
Registration  8:15-9:45a
Class Ticketing  8:30-9:45a
Opening Remarks  9:45-9:55
Classes 10-12, 2-5
Origami Source, Gold Mine & Exhibition 10-5, 8-10:30p
Annual Mtg 5:30-6:30p
Dinner 7-8p
Novelty Competition 9-9:30
Exit 1 am

This should help until you get there!
vicky mihara avery





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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 08:27:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Wo bist Jan Polish?

Joan Homewood (101450.3722@CompuServe.COM) is trying to email Jan, for
advice on a visit to Japan. The address I have of jan_polish@colpal.com
didn't work for her. Please send any clues or guidance on Japan direct
to her.

She's also been trying unsuccessfully to subscribe to this list, so
there may be a *slight* technical problem here ;)

all the best,

Nick Robinson
nick@homelink.demon.co.uk

                           ***  Origami Deutschland!   ***





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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 10:59:19 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Lauinger,p15" <Lauinger@06.bonn02.TELEKOM400.dbp.de>
Subject: Re: Lego

Sorry, I forgot to mention the publishing year of the OSN
magazine Orison. The year is 1995.

Doris





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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:32:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: halgall@netverk.com.ar
Subject: Re: Pajarita = origami???

Hi,

>I've seen paperfolding books in Spanish with the word "Papiroflexia"
>in the title.  Can some Spanish speaker on the list confirm this?

Well, I am not spanish,  I am Argentina.
The art of the creased of paper,  has at it denominated "Papiroflexia",  in
Spain,  and
 the" pajarita",  of very ancient origin was believed that is of spanish
origin,  but nothing
 can to secure that,  the author is unknown, The "Pajarita" is taken as
emblem of the Spanish Papiroflexia. It is a easy creased,  of 5 or 6 steps.
They have  various books whose title is alone "Papiroflexia" and anothers"
Las Pajaritas de papel".
Papiroflexia = Paperfolding = Origami,  for the spanish people.
Cheers

Patricia Gallo
calle 45 numero 898
1900-La Plata
Republica Argentina
halgall@netverk.com.ar





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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 20:02:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Wayne Ko <Herman_Ko@mindlink.bc.ca>
Subject: Greetings and books by Yoshizawa

Hi everyone, I am new to this list and thought I'll introduce myself.  I'm
also new to the net so please be patient and understanding if I do anything
incorrectly.

I've been folding for over 15 years and John Montroll's works have been a
significant factor in keeping my interest in this fascinating hobby.  Also,
the various publications in the last few years by Brill, Lang, Engel etc.
have been extremely inspirational.  I started folding initially because it
was a nice way to entertain children.  Also, since I teach Mathematics
(basic to intro calculus) to adults the connections to certain aspects of
paper folding are quite interesting.

At present, I'm working on a long term project of recreating the Battle of
Waterloo with 15 mm paper miniatures.  The basic forms are folded (thanks to
John Montroll for superb horses) and lapels, plumes, etc. are glued on to
differentiate the various units and to add realism since colour is very
important to Napoleonic uniforms.

I was directed to this group because I wanted to know where or how I can get
Yoshizawa's books in Canada.  If anyone can help me with this, I will be
forever grateful.

Thanks and happy folding,

Wayne





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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 20:57:44 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pat Slider <slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us>
Subject: Some more expensive books on paper....

>From the catalogs of:

Asian Rare Books

  175 W. 93rd Street (suite 16-D),
  New York NY 10025,  USA,
  Fax: +1 - 212 - 3163408,
  Phone: +1 - 212 - 3165334,

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Timothy Barrett: Japanese Papermaking. Traditions, Tools and Techniques.
Tokyo 1983. Ill. Dustjacket.

  $ 95.00

   Sukey Hughes: Washi. The World of Japanese Paper. Tokyo 1978. Quarto.
Many ill. Dustjacket.

  $200.00

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So I guess that copy of the Sukey Hughes book at Powell's was a good deal :->.

Anyway, I am listing this for those in New York that might want to go look
at these. You have to call for an appointment to browse in this bookstore
though.

The URL for this bookstore: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/ccs/cuwl/clients/arb/

They have a single word search engine for their catalogs online.

Weekend netsurfing again....Still hunting for Japanese used bookstores. I
keep finding URLs for some that I can't seem to get to. oh well. In case
anyone else is interested in Asian bookstores, a good general URL to start from:

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~felsing/ceal/pubcats.html

pat slider
slider@yosemite.net





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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 21:37:59 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pat Slider <slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us>
Subject: Pegasus Express Japanese Book Store

In case you want to try to get your issues of ORU before anyone else....Here
is the URL of Pegasus Express Japanese Book Store:

http://www.iac.co.jp/~paddy/

This seems to be a bookstore that specializes in express mailing magazines,
newspapers, and books to Japanese executives living overseas. They deliver
next day from Japan to the U.S.; two-day delivery to Europe. And you can
establish subscriptions through them.

They don't list any Origami magazines or books in their listings, but they
do say to contact them if you don't see the title you are interested in.
Their email address:

paddy@iac.co.jp

Probably just be an option for those with corporate accounts, but maybe this
might be worthwhile for some. And yes, they take VISA and Mastercharge.

pat slider
slider@yosemite.net





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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 08:05:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: reeds@openix.com (Reeds Family)
Subject: Re: Dorigami/patience for handiwork--TAN of spec interest to math and
         Eng Lit

About the time Dorigami gave her very good advice/hard won-experience about
helping people follow directions, my husband came across this
mathematical/English lit  oddity on WWW. It takes the idea of giving
directions line-by-line a bit further: a geometical proof by Coleridge
(1772-1834) in verse! So far I haven't seen rhymed origami directions, but
offer it up as a challenge to folks who email directions!
 " Aid us, Reason--aid us, Wit!"
Karen

SOURCE:
http://www.lib.virginia.edu/etext/stc/Coleridge/ascii_files/geometry_poem_le
tter.html

A MATHEMATICAL PROBLEM

         If Pegasus will let <I>thee</I> only ride him,
         Spurning my clumsy efforts to o'erstride him,
         Some fresh expedient the Muse will try,
         And walk on stilts, although she cannot fly.

                TO THE REV. GEORGE COLERIDGE

  Dear Brother,
    I have often been surprized, that Mathematics, the quintessence of
Truth, should have found admirers so few and so languid.--Frequent
consideration and minute scrutiny have at length unravelled the
cause--viz.--that though Reason is feasted, Imagination is starved;
whilst Reason is luxuriating in it's proper Paradise, Imagination is
wearily travelling on a dreary desart.  To assist Reason by the
stimulus of Imagination is the design of the following production.  In
the execution of it much may be objectionable.  The verse
(particularly in the introduction of the Ode) may be accused of
unwarrantable liberties; but they are liberties equally homogeneal
with the exactness of Mathematical disquisition, and the boldness of
Pindaric daring.  I have three strong champions to defend me against
the attacks of Criticism: the Novelty, the Difficulty, and the Utility
of the Work.  I may justly plume myself, that I first have drawn the
Nymph Mathesis from the visionary caves of Abstracted Idea, and caused
her to unite with Harmony.  The first-born of this Union I now present
to you: with interested motives indeed--as I expect to receive in
return the more valuable offspring of your Muse--
                                                  Thine ever,
                                                       S. T. C.

[Christ's Hospital,]<I> March 31, 1791</I>.

            This is now--this was erst,
    Proposition the first--and Problem the first.

                         I

        On a given finite Line
      Which must no way incline;
         To describe an equi--
         --lateral Tri--
         --A, N, G, L, E.
          Now let A. B.
         Be the given line
      Which must no way incline;
         The great Mathematician
         Makes this Requisition,
           That we describe an Equi--
           --lateral Tri--
           --angle on it:
      Aid us, Reason--aid us, Wit!

                         II

      From the centre A. at the distance A. B.
        Describe the circle B. C. D.
      At the distance B. A. from B. the centre
    The round A. C. E. to describe boldly venture.
          (Third Postulate see.)
        And from the point C.
      In which the circles make a pother
      Cutting and slashing one another,
          Bid the straight lines a journeying go,
        C. A., C. B. those lines will show.
          To the points, which by A. B. are reckon'd,
          And postulate the second
        For Authority ye know.
              A. B. C.
            Triumphant shall be
          An Equilateral Triangle,
      Not Peter Pindar carp, not Zoilus can wrangle.

                         III

      Because the point A. is the centre
        Of the circular B. C. D.
      And because the point B. is the centre
        Of the circular A. C. E.
      A. C. to A. B. and B. C. to B. A.
    Harmoniously equal for ever must stay;
        Then C. A. and B. C.
      Both extend the kind hand
        To the basis, A. B.
    Unambitiously join'd in Equality's Band.
  But to the same powers, when two powers are equal,
      My mind forbodes the sequel;
    My mind does some celestial impulse teach,
      And equalises each to each.
  Thus C. A. with B. C. strikes the same sure alliance,
    That C. A. and B. C. had with A. B. before;
        And in mutual affiance,
          None attempting to soar
            Above another,
          The unanimous three
        C. A. and B. C. and A. B.
      All are equal, each to his brother,
        Preserving the balance of power so true:
    Ah! the like would the proud Autocratorix do!
      At taxes impending not Britain would tremble,
      Nor Prussia struggle her fear to dissemble;
        Nor the Mah'met-sprung Wight,
          The great Mussulman
          Would stain his Divan
  With Urine the soft-flowing daughter of Fright.

                         IV

    But rein your stallion in, too daring Nine!
    Should Empires bloat the scientific line?
    Or with dishevell'd hair all madly do ye run
    For transport that your task is done?
      For done it is--the cause is tried!
      And Proposition, gentle Maid,
    Who soothly ask'd stern Demonstration's aid,
        Has prov'd her right, and A. B. C.
          Of Angles three
        Is shown to be of equal side;
    And now our weary steed to rest in fine,
    'Tis rais'd upon A. B. the straight, the given line.

<A HREF="../resources/time_line.html#1791">1791</A>, first published in 1834

> There is a trick to
>following directions that some people just learn automatically and others
>have a very hard time with and that is why I think they rarely try anything
>new which requires this skill.  One of the tricks I use is to write
>everything out line by line instead of trying to following in a paragraph.  I
>also use a highlighter as I finish each step.  Sometimes I number steps.
> Also I just go as far as to when I am frustrated, put it down, take it up
>again later, start from the beginning and try to get past the frustration
>spot.  I do this as many times as necessary. Sometimes I may have to take a
>basic skills course more than once to master the basics before I can move
>ahead to follow instructions.  Also I try to think like the creator.
>Another thing I do sometimes is enlarge the directions on the copier so that
>they are easier to read.  It could take me a while but usually these methods
>work for me.  I have tried and mastered several different kinds of handiwork,
>crocheting, bread dough flowers, rugmaking (hooking and braiding), macrame,
>and I can't even remember what else.  Perhaps most of these methods are
>familiar to most of you but maybe you have some other ideas too on the
>subject.  By the way, I have used the same methodology for following
>instructions on anything new with insturctions which I want to learn or try.
> One other comment, I have spoken to educators in the past few years who say
>that an important thrust in the school system today is learning to follow
>directions as well as problem solving in general.  When I do an Origami
>School program, I try to emphasize how much this skill will help  toward this
>end and offer some suggestions as to how to do this  Hope I haven't bored
>anyone.  Perhaps Racheal Katz as well as others will comment on this subject
>also since she does so much teaching of Origami and is so good at it.
>Dorigami





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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:29:33 -0300 (ADT)
From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Greetings and books by Yoshizawa

On Sat, 29 Jun 1996, Wayne Ko wrote:

> Hi everyone, I am new to this list and thought I'll introduce myself.  I'm
> also new to the net so please be patient and understanding if I do anything
> incorrectly.

Welcome!

> At present, I'm working on a long term project of recreating the Battle of
> Waterloo with 15 mm paper miniatures.  The basic forms are folded (thanks to
> John Montroll for superb horses) and lapels, plumes, etc. are glued on to
> differentiate the various units and to add realism since colour is very
> important to Napoleonic uniforms.
>
> I was directed to this group because I wanted to know where or how I can get
> Yoshizawa's books in Canada.  If anyone can help me with this, I will be
> forever grateful.

Mindlink, huh? I would guess then that you are in Vancouver, or in the
Vancouver area. Try Sophia Books on Nelson at Granville--it's a great
source of Japanese books, and has a reasonably good selection of origami
books. If you're interested in contacting the Vancouver origami club (PALM,
Paperfolders Around the Lower Mainland), let me know and I'll send you the
contact information.

Joseph Wu  <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>  <http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami>
Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view. Explore the vessel.
Make friends with the Captain. Fish a little. And then get off when you get
Home.                                                     --Max Lucado





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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:50:14 -0300 (ADT)
From: jtweres@psp.ih.lucent.com
Subject: New Origami: Hina & Ningyo

fellow folders,,,

i just picked up The New Origami by Steve and Megumi Biddle
and i have a question on the Hina & Ningyo Dolls

this Biddle version (noted as Traditional)
seems to require alot of cutting
and requires 4 sheets of paper

OriQuestion:
can you make the Hina & Ningyo Dolls WITHOUT cutting and 4 sheets???

seems that i can remember, but not where and in what book, that
the dolls are made out of 1 sheet and DO NOT require cutting
-- is what i just described a NON-Traditional Hina & Ningyo

please help

  /-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-///plieur de papier\\\-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\
 /=-= jack thomas weres                        jtweres@psp.ih.lucent.com =-=\
/=======================\\\================///===============================\
"Let Go and Let Fold"                                   "One Crease At A Time"





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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:21:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Fred Rohm

        I attended the Origami  Deutchland convention in Berlin last
weekend. This is one of
the my favourite gatherings and if you ever have the chance I urge you to go.
One of Fred Rohm's models was taught and attracted a lot of interest. I was
asked if I
could find  other Rohm models. After much searching I found 45 published or
available
models with diagrams.

In doing this research I began anew to appreciate just how superb a creator
Fred was.
Many of his bird and animal folds are , I believe, amongst the best ever
created. As you
may know Fred new nothing in the beginning about origami, except a memory of 40
years before when he learned the Lovers knot and the waterbomb. From these
simple
beginnings Fred developed many of his fine models.

I give a list of Rohm's models that I have found:-

Origamian Vol 3 No. 2

Chick, Puppy, Kitten, Scottie, Chick-a-dee, squirrel, Gardner.

Secrets of Origami, (Harbin)

See saw, Circus pony, Circus Elephant, Pig, Bear, Hippopotamus, It's magic, Vera
Cruz,  Seal performing, Santa Claus.

Best of Origami,( Randlett)

Squirrel, Skunk, Turkey, Halloween cat, Whistler's Mother, Star Flower.

Flapping Bird ( Randlett)

Puss in boots, Robin

BOS library

Macaw, Stag, Camel, Easter bunny, Bald headed Eagle, 3 Jack-in the- boxes,

La Creacion en Papiroflexia, ( Palacios)

Angry Goose

BOS magazine

Star of David (with hole in middle, superb)

Art of Origami (Gross)

Shopping bag

Origami, paperback series (Harbin)

Snake charmer, Star of David (solid centre), Four Roses.

BOS convention books (or collections)

Puppy, matchbox, Santa trims a Christmas tree, Cat and Mouse, Angry Goose,
Me and
my shadow.

I wonder if there is much interest in Fred's models in the USA ( or
elsewhere)?. In
particular does anyone know of other models to add to this list. It would be
a pity not
to keep a record of this highly creative man's work. The BOS is intending to
publish
more of Rohm's work which was collected by the great Neal Elias. I don't
know at the
moment whether the 40 or so models in this collection are additional to my
list or not.
All help will be gratefully received.

John Smith
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:03:37 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pat Slider <slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Fred Rohm

There is also a dollar-bill stag by Fred Rohm in "Making More with Money"
(published by OUSA). I haven't tried folding it myself though, but it looks
like a great model. As I remember from the accompanying text, he taught it
at an OUSA convention once. Perhaps there are other Rohm models in the
annuals somewhere?

pat slider

At 03:23 PM 7/1/96 -0300, you wrote:
>        I attended the Origami  Deutchland convention in Berlin last
>weekend. This is one of
>the my favourite gatherings and if you ever have the chance I urge you to go.
>One of Fred Rohm's models was taught and attracted a lot of interest. I was
>asked if I
>could find  other Rohm models. After much searching I found 45 published or
>available
>models with diagrams.
>
>In doing this research I began anew to appreciate just how superb a creator
>Fred was.
>Many of his bird and animal folds are , I believe, amongst the best ever
>created. As you
>may know Fred new nothing in the beginning about origami, except a memory of 40
>years before when he learned the Lovers knot and the waterbomb. From these
>simple
>beginnings Fred developed many of his fine models.
>
>I give a list of Rohm's models that I have found:-
>
>Origamian Vol 3 No. 2
>
>Chick, Puppy, Kitten, Scottie, Chick-a-dee, squirrel, Gardner.
>
>Secrets of Origami, (Harbin)
>
>See saw, Circus pony, Circus Elephant, Pig, Bear, Hippopotamus, It's magic,
Vera
>Cruz,  Seal performing, Santa Claus.
>
>Best of Origami,( Randlett)
>
>Squirrel, Skunk, Turkey, Halloween cat, Whistler's Mother, Star Flower.
>
>Flapping Bird ( Randlett)
>
>Puss in boots, Robin
>
>BOS library
>
>Macaw, Stag, Camel, Easter bunny, Bald headed Eagle, 3 Jack-in the- boxes,
>
>La Creacion en Papiroflexia, ( Palacios)
>
>Angry Goose
>
>BOS magazine
>
>Star of David (with hole in middle, superb)
>
>Art of Origami (Gross)
>
>Shopping bag
>
>Origami, paperback series (Harbin)
>
>Snake charmer, Star of David (solid centre), Four Roses.
>
>BOS convention books (or collections)
>
>Puppy, matchbox, Santa trims a Christmas tree, Cat and Mouse, Angry Goose,
>Me and
>my shadow.
>
>I wonder if there is much interest in Fred's models in the USA ( or
>elsewhere)?. In
>particular does anyone know of other models to add to this list. It would be
>a pity not
>to keep a record of this highly creative man's work. The BOS is intending to
>publish
>more of Rohm's work which was collected by the great Neal Elias. I don't
>know at the
>moment whether the 40 or so models in this collection are additional to my
>list or not.
>All help will be gratefully received.
>
>John Smith
>John Smith
>Norwich
>England
>e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 18:13:56 -0300 (ADT)
From: OrigamiCMM@aol.COM
Subject: Airline Seat Diagrams

Jack Weres sent me the diagrams via mail, so i decided to scan them i=
n and
email them to antone who wants them.  I have them in gif and jpg form=
at, tho
i would like for you to have them sent in jpg format (unless necessar=
y)
because they save space, i.e., dloading time.  Reply directly to:

OrigamiCMM@aol.com

(I might be able to convert them to different formats, if NECESSARY.)
(People with origami web pages, if you like you can have them put on =
the page
:))

Chris Miller
ORIGAMICMM@aol.com

:)                             =F4=BF=F4





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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:55:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: Wayne Ko <Herman_Ko@mindlink.bc.ca>
Subject: Thanks for Info and Welcome

Just wanted to say thanks to all who replied to me.  This sure seems like a
friendlier and more knowledgeable group than alt.arts.origami.  I now know
where I can get Yoshizawa's books and I also know that there are quite a few
folders in my area.

Thanks again,

Wayne





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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:48:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: RE: More on Fred Rohm dollar folds....

Got home from the office and double-checked my "More with Money"
book....Besides the stag, there is also a Star of David Money Fold and his
"Sniffing Bunny". Perhaps the Star of David Fold is the same or an
adaptation of the one you listed?

The intro of the book referred to a Fred Rohm article written in the 1969
Spring issue of "The Origamian" (OUSAs newsletter). Here is an excerpt from
the book:

"Rohm described more of his models in the article. In the process of
folding a money camel, he envisioned creating a no-cut antlered stag. The
resulting stag model was more impressive than his camel. The stag became
such a popular model for Rohm, he ended up folding 50 stags at the November
1967 Origami Convention! Fred Rohm's "Stag" and "Sniffing Bunny" were later
diagrammed by Alice Gray."

pat slider
slider@yosemite.net





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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:54:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Na. (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi)" <nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp>
Subject: Re: New Origami: Hina & Ningyo

Just a point,

In mail <9607011646.AA01419@pspc42.ih.lucent.com>
    jtweres@psp.ih.lucent.com wrote:
> i just picked up The New Origami by Steve and Megumi Biddle
> and i have a question on the Hina & Ningyo Dolls

Hina "&" Ningyo sounds strange.  Hina stands for a princess or
princesses as ningyo for a doll or dolls.  However, "Hina ningyo"
(I'd rather write "ningyou") usually stands for a pair of dolls
of a prince and a princess, or those and their men.

--
nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi, not Kenichi Nakanishi)





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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 03:51:08 -0300 (ADT)
From: origami@planet (Joseph Wu)
Subject: Re: Giving directions in Rhyme and the Convention

On Wed, 3 Jul 1996 mandrk@pb.net wrote:

>     As a teacher I look for folds that are easy to do
>     And I found a clever one by our Joseph Wu
>     In the Annual Collection it's rated as  L.I.
>     A bit too difficult for my kiddies to try
>     But if after step three,  you unfold it and do step four
>     Put back step three - it's  intermediate no more

Umm...not having gone to the Convention, and not having seen the Annual
Collection, which model of mine is included? (and an L.I. one at that; is
it really mine? ;-)

Joseph Wu  <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>  <http://www.datt.co.jp/Origami>
Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view. Explore the vessel.
Make friends with the Captain. Fish a little. And then get off when you get
Home.                                                     --Max Lucado





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Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 05:24:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: Charles Knuffke <knuffke@sirius.COM>
Subject: Re: Giving directions in Rhyme and the Convention

At 10:51 PM -0800 on 7/2/96, Joseph Wu wrote:

>
> Umm...not having gone to the Convention, and not having seen the Annual
> Collection, which model of mine is included? (and an L.I. one at that; is
> it really mine? ;-)
>

The model in the annual convention book is indeed a Low Intermediate Joseph
Wu model. It's the Dollar Bill Change Purse.

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Charles Knuffke       "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"
153 Divisadero                                  -Jack Kerouac
San Francisco CA 94104
mailto://knuffke@sirius.com





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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 05:49:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Na. (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi)" <nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book

I got a query about purchasing Origami Tanteidan Diagram Book 2.
There must be (rather to say I expect?:-)) others who want such
information, so I've written it to this list.

"Origami Tanteidan Diagram Book 2" is exactly JY1000 each.  It
weighs just 250g and the weight of envelope should be considered.

Book    Price      Weight             SAL to North America Total
1       JY1000        over 250g      JY480                     JY1480
2       JY2000        over 500g      JY680                     JY2680

        Origami Tanteidan, c/o Gallery Origami House
        +81-3-5684-6040
        Matsue Daiichi bldg. 2F
        36-7, Hakusan 5-chome, Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN 112
        Clarify it is for Origami Tanteidan

Ask shipping cost to other areas.  English is available when
Master Yamaguchi-san stays in.

You're required to send cash only.  I heard someone send check
for a book of 4900 yen, and a bank required 5000 yen as the
margin.  The best payment is by Japanese yen, but U.S. dollar
may be acceptable.  If any of you want to pay through bank,
consult Origami House.

--
nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi, not Kenichi Nakanishi)





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Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 08:38:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: stiller@symmetry.xo.COM
Subject: peacock montroll help

I am stuck on the peacock in Origami for the Enthusiast by Montroll (I
was able to do his peacock in Origami sculpture).

Step 19 is not terribly clear - i.e. the angles. If this is a kite
fold how does one get it crisp since one can't reach most of it?

Anyway, my main question is how to do the sinks on step 20 and 26.

My sink on step 20 doesn't look quite right, and I am completely lost
on step 26. In fact for steps 23 through 25 I could not do them as is
and had to restart, folding the paper in 32nds lengthwise. (step 25 is
quite pretty). Anyway, I don't understand what is going on in step 26,
how can I figure it out?





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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:43:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: James_Sakoda@Brown.edu (James Minoru Sakoda)
Subject: Adobe Acrobat clarification at convention

I have been going origami conventions in New York City for over 30 years,
and they seem to be getting bigger each year and the display increasingly
complex and impressive.  I displayed three flower arrangements using roses
and cherry blossoms and six sided vases, one tall and the other short.  I
taught the six sided vase and barely had time to finish in 45 minutes.  I
got requests to teach the rose and the cherry blossoms informally between
classes, which I was glad to do.  It seems that people are so busy running
to and from classes that they don't have time to see one another.
        The important thing that I learned at the cconvention came from
talking with Robert Lang and Alex Barber.  Lang was showing his  computer
program to John Montroll and handing out flyers for his origami CD rom.  I
asked him what format he had used and he said it was all bit-mapped.  I was
worried about Netscape using bitmapped formats usng GIF and JPEG for text
and line drawings, resulting in both degradation of precision and
considerable increase in the size of files.  JPEG is compressed more than
GIF and is to be preferred.  I read an article that said that to reduce the
size of the file one should degrade the image more, which didn't sound
right.  Alex Barber mentioned Adobe;'s Acrobat and its protable document
format which seemed to do justice to both text and line drawings.  I said
that I had read that the reader provided for Acrobat documents required
everyone to have Adobe's Text Manager (ATM_, and he said that they were now
providing a version of ATM with the Reader, which could be downloaded free.
I was elated to hear this since most problems were solved by the producer
of the file paying for a copy of Adobe's Acrobat, but the receiver of
messages able to read and print it free of charge.  For a while I thought
that perhaps Postscript could be used to preserve the accuracy of text and
line dreawings, and use Ghostscript as a free user.  But there have been
reports that Ghostscript is not always accurate.  I asked Alex Barber to
give a report on this, since he knows much more about it than I do.  If we
can all agree on the use of one format it will be possible some day to add
documents with E-mail, rather than simply posting files on the World Wide
Web.  I am sure that many would be interested in hearing about experieces
with Adobe's  Acrobat--particularly about how easy it is to download the
reader and how well the reader can be used to read text, line drawings as
well as pictures and print them out.  James M. Sakoda





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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:30:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: unhinged@yrkpa.kias.com
Subject: Re: OUSA convention

The omega star in fact HAS been diagrammed, only it's not the best set.
Anyone who wants the one-piece just send me a SASE.

Rob Hudson





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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:40:57 -0300 (ADT)
From: James_Sakoda@Brown.edu (James Minoru Sakoda)
Subject: Black Ship Festival, Rhode Island

The Black Ship Festival is again being held in Newport, RI, July 18-21.
Some of the events include Festival of Drums, Martial arts, sumo wrestling,
karate, arts and craft.  I will be holding an origami workshop 12.15 to
2.15 at the Newport Art Museum, Tent B, on Sunday July 21.  I will be
teaching dollar bill folding based on a six point star patterned after the
eight point star used in Modern Origami.  Teaching is at the intermediate
to advanced level and includes the dachshund, the horse (formerly Pegasus),
and the swan, possibly others.  There is a fee of $5.00 and registration is
required (401)846-2720.  I will bring samples of others, such as the
bugeyed frog, pushmi-pullyu (two headed horse), mouse, Pegasus with wings.
James M. Sakoda, author of Modern Origami.





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Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 11:08:50 -0300 (ADT)
From: unhinged@yrkpa.kias.COM
Subject: New Web Page developments

It's not much, but I have some additions to my web page in the origami area.

check it out at:

http://users.aol.com/nebaman

Plase give me your suggestions!

Rob
