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Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 13:00:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Hints and Tips for Diagramming

Steve writes:
<you may not want to invest in a pricey CAD system,
plotter, scanner,>>

Many CAD programs, including some good shareware, are no more
expensive than Powerpoint or Visio. (Unless of course, your
office has MS Office suite, or your computer came with it
for "free").

Ditto for many good drawing programs; the earlier
(less complex) versions of CorelDraw are under $100 from
many sources. Those with access to educational discounts can
often do even better.

I was **not**, by the way suggesting that anyone try
AutoCAD, which is a royal pain even for "experts" besides
being phenomenally overpriced and widely detested by those
who use it out of necessity not choice. (It's kind of like
Microsoft software: it's far from the best solution, but
thanks to aggressive marketing, especially among public
agencies, its all over the place, so you have to be prepared
to handle files from the unfortunates whose offices have
"standardized" on it...)

Second: Only professional CAD users who require on-site
hardcopy in larger sizes buy "plotters". The rest of us
use printers, especially with both color inkjet and 600dpi
laserjets (eg HP5L) under $500. Black & white inkjets are
really cheap and produce high quality output. The largest
output my engineering office can do right now is B size
(11x17 in); when we need bigger, we send a floppy or Zipp
disk to our local blueprinter, who can do color laser output
the size of a football field if you need it.

Scanners: Grey-scale Hand scanners quite suitable for scanning
black&white "line art" are also quite inexpensive. The same
grade of scanner, which is suitable for scanning documents
for FAX and OCR is turning up all over the place, including
built into keyboards on some new systems, though personally
I think the latter is the dumb idea of the year - I have
enough trouble getting folks to keep eraser & lunch crumbs
out of their keyboards, without having to worry about getting
them in a scanner too :-)

Blue Grid paper: I use this too for hand diagrams. My favorite
is a Mead pad with a double cover (handy for stashing finished
sheets) and a very heavy cardboard back (can be used in the
lap; stiff enough to fold on). I also use engineering
calculation pads, which are pale green with a place for
title, page nos, margins, etc. The grid is on the back and
shows through.

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com
http://users.aol.com/valerivann/index.html
[Modular Origami Home Page]





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Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 13:29:14 -0300 (ADT)
From: Robert Maldonado <robert_maldonado@csufresno.edu>
Subject: Armadillo, 1st folds, Yosemite

Since I seem to be the one who started the thread on the armadillo and
success of first folds, I thought I should reply.  Sorry about the
delay.  We've been finishing up the semester here and it's been a bit
hectic.

RE: Wu's Armadillo.  It was a first fold for me and it turned out, I
think, quite well.  Although as I reinspected it, I think that I too
could have made the pleats a little deeper.  The head works nicely, but
I haven't seen the modification that J. Wu mentioned in his post.

RE: 1st folds.  I have found that it makes a difference whether the
model is "simply" complex (meaning complicated but requiring no folds
that are beyond my skill) and (for me) a new level of difficulty.
(Sorry about these categories, I'm not quite recovered from the
semester).  For example, when I folded Montroll's stegasaurus from
Origami for the Connoisieur, the first one I made is still one of the
best, and the second and third were definitely less successful.
However, almost all of my attempts of Lang's insects required two or
three sheets just to get to the end of the model.  Having worked
through a number of those now, I do think I have improved as a folder.
(Nietzsche's "That which does not kill us makes us stronger" comes to
mind.  Folded appropriately into origami).  A couple of weeks ago, I
folded another Montroll stegasaurus for a friend who gave me a bunch
of washi and refused reimbursement.  It was clearly the best one I
have ever made.

A couple questions along this line.  1) Can anyone help me with Lang's
Cerberus in Mythical Origami?  I can't quite figure out where the
third head goes when you fold it up.  2) Can anyone suggest a good
model(s) to use the washi on.  I'm a bit fearful.  I've only used the
origami paper you buy at craft type stores (Is that what is referred
to as kami?)

RE: Yosemite.  Don't know how this fits, but Fresno is only 60 miles
from Yosemite.  My wife, infant son, and I went there last Friday for
a day trip.  Weather was a nice as you could hope for.  Falls were
near peak.  Gasp.

And thanks to all for a really enjoyable and informative list.  I'm
glad I discovered it and hope I can contribute positively.

Sincerely,
Robert D. Maldonado
Philosophy Department
CSU, Fresno
Fresno CA 93740-0105
robert_maldonado@CSUFresno.edu





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Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 15:54:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Re: "The Complete Origami Collection"?

I have this backordered from Putnam (supplier of Japan Publications).  I
checked with Putnam approx 2 weeks ago regarding backorder status on this
and several other Origami books - no available date yet.  If anyone sees
this book, please let me know so I can go back to Putnam.
Thanks -
Bren

>
>going through the archives, I came across this blurb from amazon.com....
>
>> "The Complete Origami Collection"
>> Toshie Takahama
>> List: $17.00 -- Amazon.com Price: $15.30 -- You Save: $1.70 (10%)
>> Publisher: JAPAN PUBNS
>> Binding: Paperback
>> Expected publication date: January 1996
>> ISBN: 0870409603
>
>
>Did this book ever come out? Don't think I ever saw it.
>
>pat slider
>slider@yosemite.net
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 16:17:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: WebSite Updates

Greetings -

After a very busy month, I've finally completed some of the updates to the
website.  If you haven't visited in a while, you may want to clear the cache
as there have been quite a few structural changes.

Some of the items of interest are:
1.  There are actually some Origami books available for sale!  Details are
on the Classified Page.
2.  All "link" pages - "Origami Connection", "Paper Pathways", and the
"Teacher's Connection" have been updated.  My apologies for taking so long
on some of these - and if you are still not included, please feel free to
send me another email at (bren@fascinating-folds.com) and remind me.
3.  Sadako and the Thousand Cranes video (targeted for teachers and
librarians) - and a great poster.
4.  International Peace Crane Project - Jonathan Baxter and Marsha DuPre -
5.  Fine Paper Crafts (other than Origami) - there's a section on the index
page for info

The URL is:   http://www.fascinating-folds.com

Also, many of you have signed the guest log and have requested to be
included in our email mailing list.  For those of you who are not familiar
with our email postings, we periodically (1x to 2x per month)  send out an
email with new products, special announcements, etc.  If you'd like to be
included, just sign the guestlog from the website and indicate that you
would like to receive the email messages.

Thank -
Bren
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Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 16:36:14 -0300 (ADT)
From: Hamilton Edmund Link <hamlink@cs.uoregon.edu>
Subject: Joseph Wu -- how are your diagrams coming along?

See what you get when you announce that people can nag you?  I was just
looking at your page and I thought it would be really cool to see some of
the patterns. :)

ttyl
hamilton





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Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 17:37:07 -0300 (ADT)
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re:  Origami on the silver screen

Perhaps it wasn't the Tool Man, but Wilson - seems more his style... if it
was a big enough crane - it could have even covered his face!





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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 01:59:43 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Na. (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi)" <nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp>
Subject: Re: Homepage & Diagrams

In mail <QEhzZJAZXXoxEwvt@homelink.demon.co.uk>
    nick@homelink.demon.co.uk writes:
> "Na. (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi)" <nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp> sez
> >It is also discussed in Tanteidan how much we should provide
> >photos and diagrams of models and what and how we should charge.
>
> Why not just make them downloadable? This would cut out the hassle of
> mailing, but they would then be "free". I would support this, since
> that's how all other ori sites operate. As a post-script (pun), why not
> make them available in PS, Acrobat & gif format so people can choose
> their favourite?

We cannot distribute professional origami creators' diagrams
with no charge.  Only the figures of finished models and thier
crease patterns are considered to be permitted.

--
nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi, not Kenichi Nakanishi)





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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 12:50:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Req: Sources in London

>
> I will be travelling to London and Frankfurt in
> the next few weeks.  If anyone knows any good
> sources there, could you please let me know?

I sent a longish message to Terry Hall, for inclusion in the list he is
compiling of world-wide origami suppliers. Briefly the following shops
may be worth a visit:

Books Nippon
64-66 St. Paul's Churchyard,
London EC4M 8AA

(0171) 248 4956

nearest tube: St. Pauls

Book Ends
1-3 Exhibition Road,
South Kensington,
LONDON SW7 2HE

(0171) 589 2285

nearest tube: South Kensington

Japan Centre Bookshop,
212, Piccadilly,
LONDON W1V 9LD

(0171) 439 8035

nearest tube: Piccadilly

Hope this helps.

Richard Kennedy
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)

PS Could you append your email address to your signature. I'm not sure if the
above is of general interest, but I could not send it to you alone without
an address.





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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 14:48:12 -0300 (ADT)
From: fayeg@ix.netcom.com (Faye E. Goldman )
Subject: Philadelphia Paper Folders

The Greater Philadelphia Paperfolders meet the first Monday of each
month.  The next meeting is Monday, June 3 at the Free Library of
Philadelphia, Roxborough Branch, Ridge Avenue and Hermitage Street.
Meetings are between 6:00 and 7:30 pm.

Faye Goldman will be teaching the triangular module by Bennet Arnstein,
as described in Gurkewitz and Arnstein '3-D Geometric Origami'.  Other
models will also be shared.

If you need any directions, please E-mail privately.
--
 Faye E. Goldman     (FayeG@ix.netcom.com)





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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 23:11:40 -0300 (ADT)
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Thanks for Your Patience!

Bren....still can't get your page with these last https you gave me.  I must
be doing something wrong...I have a Mac...does this make a difference?
Dorigami or what elso might you suggest?





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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 23:11:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: origami.com ???4

Eric...aha, so that's the way it is with the domain thing.....mind
boggling.......am I right, you can actually buy space on the computer world
and use it for business...I mean other than a Web Page.  Dorigami.  And do
you have to pay for a Web Page?  I am considering doing this but haven't the
vaguest how?  I want to sell my tapes that are about to come out.  I have
seen books on how to do this....could you recommend one that is good for
Macs....Dorigami





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 00:11:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@fantasyfarm.com>
Subject: Dividing edges into multiple divisions

Do any of you have any tricks/techniques for dividing edges into various
numbers of sections that you'd be willing to share.  I recently needed to
divide an edge into sevenths and was at a loss.

    [Generally I do this iteratively [e.g., to divide an edge into thirds,
    I'd estimate 1/3, then fold it over twice and then correct the
    original fold by about 1/3 of the error, and repeat until the error
    is small enough. It works, but it makes a bit of a mess of the edge
    and leaves a lot of not-in-the-right-place creases around to trip over
    later.  this doesn't work at for sevenths --- the principle is OK but
    the practice makes the edge a mess.]

Thanks!
  /Bernie\

--
Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
bernie@fantasyfarm.com            Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 01:56:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks for Your Patience!

It doesn't make any difference - MAC, IBM, or other as the Internet is
really a fully distributed information system specifically designed to
accommodate any of the various types of computers that a "consumer" might
have.

I had over 100 hits yesterday - and over 30 email messages, so the website
is OK.
Does anyone else have any suggestions that might help?

Thanks  -
Bren
--------------------------------

At 11:11 PM 5/27/96 -0300, you wrote:
>Bren....still can't get your page with these last https you gave me.  I must
>be doing something wrong...I have a Mac...does this make a difference?
>Dorigami or what elso might you suggest?
>
>
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 02:51:34 -0300 (ADT)
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Origami Book Reviews!

The origami mailing list book recommendation tallys and reviews are now
available at this URL:

     ftp://home.yosemite.net/home/slider/origami/or_books.txt

Still incomplete, but useful, I think. (My own want-list of books has
become unreasonable! :->)

Feel free to send me suggestions, corrections, etc....

pat slider.





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 04:14:18 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Wayland, Sharon" <SWayland@colonial.com.au>
Subject: Melbourne (Australia) Art and Craft Exhibition

Hi All,

For these people living in Melbourne who are interested in origami this may
be news to you. At the International Art and Craft Exhibition to be held at
the Caulfield Race Track on the 30 May(Thursday) through to 3rd June(Sunday)
there will be a stall for origami. So if you are interested come and visit
us. Times open are from 10am to 6pm, but our stall will only be manned on
the Saturday and Sunday.

While we have the opportunity we will try setting up an interest group. So
even if you are not interested in attending the Exhibition (it costs $7 for
an adult, $4 for child) and live in the Melbourne area then send me some
email (with your name, address and phone number) and I will include you on
the list. As you may know there is not currently an Australian organisation
for origami so we are hoping that we can enthuse enough people to start one
happening. I'II keep you posted if we get anything happening.  BTW I'II give
credit where credit is due and admit that I didn't have the brilliant idea
of the stall. It goes to Steven Casey who has created a number of folds who
will also be manning the stall, along with another.

Well, that's probably a long enough promo. If you need more details or wish
to be added to the list reply to me personally.
Sharon

SWayland@colonial.com.au





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:06:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jennifer.Campbell@cciw.CA (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: Re: Dividing edges into multiple divisions

Bernie Cosell wrote:

>Do any of you have any tricks/techniques for dividing edges into various
>numbers of sections that you'd be willing to share.  I recently needed to
>divide an edge into sevenths and was at a loss.
>

Don't mean to sound flip, but for a quick division into sevenths with a
minumum of guilt I'd use a calculator and a ruler!
Gasp!
You're right--for anything more than thirds, the "iterative estimate"
method makes a mess of the paper. Not great if you want your finished model
to look nice... and if you make another model, you go through the same
thing all over again. I like to make paper guides for odd-number divisions
or subjective folds, then tuck them into the pages of the book so when I
make the model again, I can do it accurately without tools or guesswork.

I saved a post from John Andrisan a while ago about how to divide the side
of a square into thirds, fifths, sevenths, etc. I never understood step 2,
but here it is. Hope John doesn't mind.

1. fold a diagonal from the upper left corner to the lower right corner,
and unfold it.

2. fold the line that bisects the left and right sides of the square,
and unfold it.

3. fold a line from the lower left corner to the intersection of the
fold in step 2 and the right side, and unfold it.

The point of intersection of the folds in step 1 and step 3 will be 1/3
from the bottom and from one side.

This method generalizes nicely. For example, if in step 2 you fold the line
that is 1/4 from the bottom, then you will produce a point that is 1/5 from
the bottom in step 3. Ditto for 1/6 and 1/7, etc./john

Jennifer.

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__Jennifer.Campbell@cciw.ca





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:16:23 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.COM>
Subject: Re: Dividing edges into multiple divisions

Bernie Cosell writes:

   Do any of you have any tricks/techniques for dividing edges into various
   numbers of sections that you'd be willing to share.  I recently needed to
   divide an edge into sevenths and was at a loss.

I have attached two methods below.  I think the first method was
independently discovered by many people.  The second method is mine.

        -- jeannine mosely (j9@concentra.com)

(P.S.  We really need a FAQ, to put this kind of thing in.)

Here are two simple, exact methods of dividing the edge of a square
piece of paper into M equal parts (M is an integer).  Both methods
require the same number of creases, and are mathematically correct for
any M, but for a given M, one method will be easier to perform
accurately than the other. The different methods are complementary.

The first step is the same for both methods.  Start by finding N equal
to the largest power of 2 smaller than M.  (Note that M-N is less than
N.)  It is easy to divide the edge into N parts by dividing in half
repeatedly, because N is a power of 2.  Do this to find the point that
divides the edge into (M-N)/N and 1- (M-N)/N.  If (M-N)/N > 1/2, use
Method 1.  If (M-N)/N < 1/2, use Method 2. If (M-N)/N = 1/2, either
method will do.

Method 1:

For example, suppose that we are dividing the edge into 7 equal parts.
Then N = 4, (M-N)/N = 3/4 and 1- (M-N)/N = 1/4. Divide the lower edge
into 3/4 and 1/4, but don't make any of the creases all the way across
the width of the paper, just nick the bottom edge. Make a crease from
the point at (M-N)/N to the upper left hand corner C.

       C---------------------------
       |\                          |
       | \                         |
       |  \                        |
       |   \                       |
       |    \                      |
       |      \                    |
       |       \                   |
       |        \                  |
       |         \                 |
       |          \                |
       |           \               |
       |             \             |
       |              \            |
       |               \           |
       |                \          |
       |                 \ |       |
       A---------------------------B
                           ^
                         3/4

Now bring the lower right hand corner B up to touch the upper right
hand corner C, but don't make the diagonal crease all the way across
the paper, just make it in the region where it crosses the diagonal
crease you just made.

       C---------------------------
       |\         |                |
       | \        |                |
       |  \       |                |
       |   \      |                |
       |    \     |                |
       |      \   |                |
       |       \  |                |
       |        \ | /              |
       |         \|/D              |
       |          |                |
       |         /|\               |
       |        / |  \             |
       |          |   \            |
       |          |    \           |
       |          |     \          |
       |          |      \ |       |
       A---------------------------B
                  ^        ^
                3/7      3/4

Now make a vertical crease through the intersection D of the two
diagonals.  This crease divides the bottom edge in (M-N)/M and
1-(M-N)/M.

Method 2:

For example, suppose that we are dividing the edge into 5 equal parts.
Then N = 4, (M-N)/N = 1/4 and 1- (M-N)/N = 3/4.  Divide the lower edge
into 1/4 and 3/4, making this crease across the width of the paper.
(The previous folds need only nick the bottom edge.)

        ---------------------------
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       | L                 |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       A---------------------------B
               ^
              1/4

Now bring the lower right hand corner B up to touch the line L and
move it up and down along L, pivoting through A, until you find the
point where folding it will make a crease through point A.  It is not
actually necessary to make this fold across the width of the paper.
It is enough to just nick the right hand edge at point C.

        ---------------------------
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                   |
       |       |                 --| C
       |       |               --  |
       |       | L           --    |
       |       |           --      |
       |       |         --        |
       |       |       --          |
       |       |     --            |
       |       |   --              |
       |       | --                |
       |      -|-                  |
       |    -- |                   |
       |  --   |            \      |
       |--     |             \     |
       A---------------------------B
               ^              ^
              1/4             D

Fold point A to touch point C.  Again, do not crease the paper all the
way across, just nick the lower edge at point D. The point D divides
the edge into 4/5 and 1/5.

The proofs are left as exercises to the reader.





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:17:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: RE: Hints and Tips for Diagramming

At 12:03 AM 5/26/96 -0500, you wrote:

>I now find that the best solution is to get books of light blue graph
>paper, (obtainable in various sizes and colours - usually for school
>children) I then have the best of both worlds. I can freehand the folds,
>and using the grid as a guide, get folds which are good enough for
>publication, (I suspect that Paul Jackson among others uses a similar
>technique - I could be wrong) - then when you are ready to copy a final
>drawing, use a really good photocopier which will ignore the graph and only
>copy your pen marks.
>
>Laurie Bisman
>lbisman@sirranet.co.nz

This is what I do, I have a small book of graph paper 3"x5", that I can
carry around with me.  I *try* to sketch everything I come up with.

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:17:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jennifer.Campbell@cciw.CA (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: cockatiel?

Hi all,

I searched the oriindex (thanks Alex Bateman! What a great service!) for a
cockatiel model but there were no entries. Yet I'm sure I've seen one.
Perhaps in Montroll's "Bird's in Origami"? Can anyone who owns this book
help me? I saw Birds in Origami on the shelf and almost bought it, but I
was already getting two other origami books so I passed for now. If that
book, or any other, contains a cockatiel model, I'd be very interested to
know.

Thanks in advance,
Jennifer.

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__Jennifer.Campbell@cciw.ca





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:17:22 -0300 (ADT)
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.NET>
Subject: Re: Hints and Tips for Diagramming

At 08:17 AM 5/25/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Thanks to all who replied about ideas and hints for diagramming.  I can with
>great difficulty doing diagramming by hand but since I am not all an artist
>it is excruciating for me to make the 3-d parts of them.  This is what has
>held me back from doing another book all of these years although I have saved
>up some very good material for same.  I really bought this computer to do
>computer diagramming but never learned how to do that either.  I just didn't
>have anyone around to teach me.  Everyonce in a while I invent something
>pretty decent but diagramming always holds me back from publishing in other
>publications even.  So any hints and tips that all of you can share will be
>very much appreciated.  Thanks for those already sent and there are probably
>others who are enjoying them too. Dorigami
>

Maybe Dorigami can hitch up with one of the more experienced diagrammers
around?  I have seen a few people who do the diagramms for others.

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:18:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.COM
Subject: Re: Dividing edges into multiple divisions

Bernie Cosell asked:
>>Do any of you have any tricks/techniques for dividing edges into various
numbers of sections that you'd be willing to share.  I recently needed to
divide an edge into sevenths and was at a loss.<<

It's cheating, perhaps, but 7ths is easy. Divide the paper into
8ths. Cut one off. Voila!

   Just repeating someone's previous suggestion.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:30:54 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Homepage & Diagrams

"Na. (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi)" <nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp> sez

>We cannot distribute professional origami creators' diagrams
>with no charge.

This is a shame. How do you decide who is "professional"?

I will have a new BOS web site up soon - do you want me to link to your
page? What is the full URL?

cheers,

Nick Robinson
nick@homelink.demon.co.uk

***Origami is Sharing, not Selling***





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:40:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: hull@hypatia.math.uri.edu
Subject: Re: Dividing edges into multiple divisions

YO!    Bernie Cosell wrote:

> Generally I do this iteratively ... It works, but it makes a bit
> of a mess of the edge and leaves a lot of not-in-the-right-place
> creases around to trip over later.  this doesn't work for sevenths
> --- the principle is OK but the practice makes the edge a mess.

        Well, I'd like to stick up for the "iterative" method of
dividing a side into Nths!  I think it's a splendid method.
Yes, you do end up with "tick" marks on the edge of the square,
but when compared to "exact" methods that leave creases all over
the square, I think this is a good compramise.  Also, the iterative
method actually works *better* at dividing Nths for N>3, since
each time you "fold the paper over" you're dividing the amount
of error in your initial guess by two, thus your error decreses
exponentially with the number of folds you make.  So for 7ths
even after you make only three "ticks" on the side of the square
you've reduced the error to 1/8th of what it was originally.
        A few months ago I was designing a model which required me
to divide the edge of the square into 43rds.  (!!!)  The
iterative estimation method was the only practical way of doing this,
and in my opinion it made the operation quite painless!

-------------- Tom "crunch & munch" Hull





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:56:39 -0300 (ADT)
From: PEGGY VAN NORMAN <pvn@library.ucla.edu>
Subject: Edwin Corrie - Animal Origami Booklet #2?

I was doing some archive searching via Alex Bateman's WWW page (thanks, Alex),
     and I
saw a listing of BOS booklets that Richard Kennedy (Hi Richard!) posted some
     time ago.
I already have Edwin Corrie's "Animal Origami" booklet, which I purchased
     recently
from Origami USA, and "Animal Origami 3" is still available, so my question is
     this:
Does anyone here have a spare "Animal Origami 2" that they'd be willing to part
     with?
(A photocopy would be fine too, with the understanding that I would still
     purchase the
booklet if it ever came back into print.)  Thanks in advance,

Peggy Van Norman
(pvn@library.ucla.edu)





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:06:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: "MICHAEL G. WAREMAN" <MIKE@lrc.oldscollege.ab.ca>
Subject: Origami USA Magazine

Hello:

I am trying to decide which of the many origami organizations to join and
would like some information concerning the Origami USA magazine.  Can
anyone provide an indication of what origami models and skill level have
been presented in the origami USA magazine?

CyberMike
(a.k.a. Michael G. Wareman)
mike@lrc.oldscollege.ab.ca





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:09:41 -0300 (ADT)
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Re: cockatiel?

At 09:56 AM 5/28/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>I searched the oriindex (thanks Alex Bateman! What a great service!) for a
>cockatiel model but there were no entries. Yet I'm sure I've seen one.
>Perhaps in Montroll's "Bird's in Origami"? Can anyone who owns this book
>help me? I saw Birds in Origami on the shelf and almost bought it, but I
>was already getting two other origami books so I passed for now. If that
>book, or any other, contains a cockatiel model, I'd be very interested to
>know.

There is a COCKATOO in "Origami Animals"(Lang).  Similar bird.

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:35:03 -0300 (ADT)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: Re: cockatiel?

At 12:09 PM 5/28/96 -0300, you wrote:
>At 09:56 AM 5/28/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I searched the oriindex (thanks Alex Bateman! What a great service!) for a
>>cockatiel model but there were no entries. Yet I'm sure I've seen one.
>>Perhaps in Montroll's "Bird's in Origami"? Can anyone who owns this book
>>help me? I saw Birds in Origami on the shelf and almost bought it, but I
>>was already getting two other origami books so I passed for now. If that
>>book, or any other, contains a cockatiel model, I'd be very interested to
>>know.
>
>There is a COCKATOO in "Origami Animals"(Lang).  Similar bird.
>
>Brett
>BrettAndJill@OIA.Net
>
>
There is also a "Crested Parakeet" in Kasahara's Origami Made Easy, also
similar looking.  Perhaps Lang's Cockatoo or Kasahara's Crested Parakeet
could be adapted to more closely match your cockatiel design...?

Steve Woodmansee , Bend Oregon
USA
(Stevew@empnet.com)





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:57:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Re: Edwin Corrie - Animal Origami Booklet #2?

At 10:38 AM 5/28/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>I was doing some archive searching via Alex Bateman's WWW page (thanks,
Alex), and I
>saw a listing of BOS booklets that Richard Kennedy (Hi Richard!) posted
some time ago.
>I already have Edwin Corrie's "Animal Origami" booklet, which I purchased
recently
>from Origami USA, and "Animal Origami 3" is still available, so my question
is this:
>Does anyone here have a spare "Animal Origami 2" that they'd be willing to
part with?
>(A photocopy would be fine too, with the understanding that I would still
purchase the
>booklet if it ever came back into print.)  Thanks in advance,
>
>Peggy Van Norman
>(pvn@library.ucla.edu)
>

I think Edwin Corrie is on this list Maybe you could look at the index to
find his address and bug him for it ? ;)

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:27:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jennifer.Campbell@cciw.ca (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: Origami Animals (Lang)

In response to my quest for a cockatiel model, Brett mentioned the cockatoo
in Lang's "Origami Animals". What is the scoop on this book? Is it out of
print? It doesn't seem to be listed anywhere (not the first time I've
looked). In the archives I read a message from Robert Lang himself saying
the book was available from OUSA... is that the only place?

Thanks,
Jennifer.

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__Jennifer.Campbell@cciw.ca





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:08:20 -0300 (ADT)
From: contract@nyc.pipeline.com (Contractors Exchange)
Subject: Re: Dividing edges into multiple divisions

On May 28, 1996 00:11:01, '"Bernie Cosell" <bernie@fantasyfarm.com>' wrote:

>Do any of you have any tricks/techniques for dividing edges into various
>numbers of sections that you'd be willing to share.  I recently needed to
>divide an edge into sevenths and was at a loss.

Dr. Ron Levy compiled a bunch of really good division techniques. They were
originally published in the old Origami USA Annual Collections, and can now
be found in their *Origami Basics* book (available through The Origami
Source).

Marc





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:27:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: Thanks for Your Patience!

>Bren....still can't get your page with these last https you gave me.  I must
>be doing something wrong...I have a Mac...does this make a difference?
>Dorigami or what elso might you suggest?

Perhaps this is one of those strange aol problems....Can anyone else at
aol.com get to fascinating-folds.com?

Sometimes it helps when having problem accessing a particular site that
you know is up to ask your server if he can get to it. The person behind my
own server will often figure out where the link is breaking down and then
communicate with the problem gateway, etc....sometimes the problem gets
fixed. Don't know if there is email address or something at aol.com to help
this way though.

pat slider.





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 16:11:46 -0300 (ADT)
From: Martin Gibbs <mrg1001@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Dividing edges into multiple divisions

>       A few months ago I was designing a model which required me
> to divide the edge of the square into 43rds.  (!!!)  The
> iterative estimation method was the only practical way of doing this,
> and in my opinion it made the operation quite painless!
>
> -------------- Tom "crunch & munch" Hull

  Wouldn't it be easier to divide the paper into 48ths (divide into
thirds and then divide these into 16ths) and then cut (!) off five rows?
You lose a bit of paper of course.





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 20:45:09 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.com
Subject: FLASS PRESS RELEASE

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Weres Genetic Engineering, Ltd.
Arlington Heights, IL  60004

(ARLINGTON HEIGHTS, IL) Weres Genetic Engineering, Ltd. announces release 2.0
in its BioRobot (tm) line of carbon-based automata.  This version, called
Conrad Christian Weres, comes initially weighing (9 pounds 2 ounces)
and all the beautiful packaging conforms to ASTM biorobotic specifications
with an overall lineal dimension of 22.0 inches.
Experience with competitor's models and their tendency toward conditions of
unprovoked and unpredictable sonic resonance and chaos between the
hours of 11 pm and 7 am have resulted in a number of design
enhancements and operational improvements.  Specifically, a
combination of better and increased nutrient streams combined with
improved initialization procedures provided by experienced handler-trainers
has brought nocturnal dynamics within regulatory and ASTM guidelines.

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Fuel:           Lactose and associated hydrocarbon-based nutrients.
/=======================\\\================///===========================\
"Let Go and Let Fold"                               "One Crease At A Time"





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:31:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Hamilton Edmund Link <hamlink@cs.uoregon.edu>
Subject: I need a rose!

A freind of mine wants to fold a rose for his significant other, but I
have come to the realization that for all the flowers I have in the books
I have, I have not a single rose!  Does anyone know where I can get a rose
pattern on short notice?  I have found a leaf, a stem, and a base for
Kawasaki's rose, but I can't seem to locate any actual roses.  Help!  He's
only got two weeks, and it will take him most of that time (he won't let
me fold it, isn't that sweet?) if it's even intermediate.

thanks y'all,
hamilton





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:50:53 -0300 (ADT)
From: mandrk@pb.net
Subject: Re: Bases

Kim, you are correct. The pinwheel base is the one you are familiar
with.

Rachel Katz





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 22:11:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Pat Slider <slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Origami Animals (Lang)

This book was getting remaindered around the beginning of this year....I
found a copy for $4 at half-price books in Houston during January.
Ridiculous price even for a remaindered book, no? I still wonder if someone
made a pricing mistake. This wasn't so long ago, so probably a Half-Price
bookstore somewhere still has a copy.

By the way, this book looks quite different from other Lang books. Lots of
color photographs and intermediate (gasp!) models. The ibex is one of my
favorites. Includes some great models by other designers as well.

Part of "Origami Animals" wounded up in the "Encyclopedia of Paper
Techniques and Origami" -- the one EDITED by Emma Callery, not the one by
Paul Jackson. I think the Cockatoo wounded up in this volume, which I have
seen remaindered at Waldenbooks and in the Hamilton catalog. But I would
recommend trying to get the complete "Origami Animals".

pat slider.

At 01:28 PM 5/28/96 -0300, you wrote:
>In response to my quest for a cockatiel model, Brett mentioned the cockatoo
>in Lang's "Origami Animals". What is the scoop on this book? Is it out of
>print? It doesn't seem to be listed anywhere (not the first time I've
>looked). In the archives I read a message from Robert Lang himself saying
>the book was available from OUSA... is that the only place?
>
>Thanks,
>Jennifer.
>
>       /\_/\       ________
>     `(     )' oo /        \
>       `==='     | Maguro o |
>       /   \     |  kudasai |
>      |     |     \________/
>      |     |
>    ___\___/__Jennifer.Campbell@cciw.ca





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 22:24:47 -0300 (ADT)
From: William Krebs <krebsw@winnie.fit.edu>
Subject: Re: cockatiel?

        A quick search of Montroll's "Birds In Origami" turned up no
cockatiels.  The only crested bird in the book is a cardinal.  This has
potential to be modified into a cockatiel as does a parrot.

                              Will Krebs
                              Krebsw@fit.edu

On Tue, 28 May 1996, Jennifer Campbell wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I searched the oriindex (thanks Alex Bateman! What a great service!) for a
> cockatiel model but there were no entries. Yet I'm sure I've seen one.
> Perhaps in Montroll's "Bird's in Origami"? Can anyone who owns this book
> help me? I saw Birds in Origami on the shelf and almost bought it, but I
> was already getting two other origami books so I passed for now. If that
> book, or any other, contains a cockatiel model, I'd be very interested to
> know.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jennifer.
>
>        /\_/\       ________
>      `(     )' oo /        \
>        `==='     | Maguro o |
>        /   \     |  kudasai |
>       |     |     \________/
>       |     |
>     ___\___/__Jennifer.Campbell@cciw.ca





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 22:50:45 -0300 (ADT)
From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@empnet.com>
Subject: Re: I need a rose!

At 09:32 PM 5/28/96 -0300, you wrote:
>A freind of mine wants to fold a rose for his significant other, but I
>have come to the realization that for all the flowers I have in the books
>I have, I have not a single rose!  Does anyone know where I can get a rose
>pattern on short notice?  I have found a leaf, a stem, and a base for
>Kawasaki's rose, but I can't seem to locate any actual roses.  Help!  He's
>only got two weeks, and it will take him most of that time (he won't let
>me fold it, isn't that sweet?) if it's even intermediate.
>
>thanks y'all,
>hamilton
>
>
I have the pattern for Kasahara's rose (actually two different variations).
It's relatively easy and could almost be explained textually.  If you can't
get anything better (or faster!) I can probably even diagram and send it to
you.  Let me know via this list or privately (stevew@empnet.com).  Best wishes!

Steve Woodmansee , Bend Oregon
USA
(Stevew@empnet.com)





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 23:19:48 -0300 (ADT)
From: sychen@leatherback.nist.gov (S.Y. Chen)
Subject: Re: Origami Animals (Lang)

This is the simplest Lang's book I have. It does not look like Lang's book
(more Gross like) to me at my first glance: A lot of photos and colors.
Here is the model list:

Easy Grasshopper by Gay Merrill Gross
Easy Butterfly by Gay Merrill Gross
High Itermediate Skunk by Aaron Einbond

Easy Mountain Range by Gloria Farison
Low intermediate Marmot
Low Intermediate Ibex

Easy Cypress
Easy Alligator - head only
Low Intermediate Crawfish
High Intermediate Turtle

Easy Fish by Karen Reeds
Low Intermediate Skate by Wayne Rickard
High Intermediate Gray Whale

Easy Paddle
High Intermediate Kayak
High Intermediate Eskimo
Low Intermediate Polar Bear by Marc Kirchenbaum

Low Intermediate Koala by Edwin Corrie
High Intermediate Gum Tree
High Intermediate Cockatoo

Difficult Lion
Difficult Gazelle

Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. SY)
E-Mail: chens@iia.org
http://www.iia.org/~chens/syhome.htm





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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 23:30:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: James_Sakoda@Brown.edu (James Minoru Sakoda)
Subject: Re: Dividing edges into multiple divisions

>Do any of you have any tricks/techniques for dividing edges into various
>numbers of sections that you'd be willing to share.  I recently needed to
>divide an edge into sevenths and was at a loss.

>Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
>bernie@fantasyfarm.com            Pearisburg, VA
>    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--
I use a method of dividing an edge which I have called error distribution.
Fold to the nearest estimation that can be folded conveniently.  For 7th
this would be be eight.  Take the second eighth and divide it by eye into
sevenths.  This process can be made more accurate by first dividing into 4
and 3 units and divide the 4 units accurately and check it against the 3
units.  Redo the estimate if necessary.  Add one unit to the first eighth,
The rest can be gotten by judicious division into fourths and halves.
         For fifths divide into fourths, which calls for subtraction of the
error.  Divide the second fourth unit into five units (three and two) and
subtract one unit from the first and   two units from the second fourth.
For thirds fold into fourths, and divide the second unit into thirds by eye
(2 on one side and 1 on  the other).  Add one unit to the first fourth.
This method requires the existence of a convenient approximation.  The
method was written up in the BOS several years ago.
        Instead of dividing into eighths you might try dividing the whole
sheet into four and three units, divide the four units into half and
quarter and check against the end of the three units. If the end of the
three units does not fall on the first unit, move it and try again.  James
M. Sakoda.





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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 00:33:06 -0300 (ADT)
From: Charles Knuffke <knuffke@sirius.com>
Subject: Re: Dividing edges into multiple divisions

>Do any of you have any tricks/techniques for dividing edges into various
>numbers of sections that you'd be willing to share.  I recently needed to
>divide an edge into sevenths and was at a loss.
>

The easiest way that I have found to divide paper into an unusual number of
equal segments is to use a piece of graph paper.

Lets say you want to divide a dollar bill into 7 equal segments. Find 8
parallel lines on the graph paper that are equally separated, and have a
smaller total length than the length of the dollar bill. Lay the dollar
bill at an angle so that the right tip lays on the rightmost line, and the
left tip lies somewhere on the leftmost line. By marking the top of the
bill at each place where it crosses on of the graph lines, you'll have
divided the bill into 7 equal segments.

When I don't have a piece of graph paper handy, I'll just fold a piece of
paper onto 8 equal segments, and then lay my bill across the first 7 to
find the right locations. The nice thing about this method is that it
allows you to easily divide a paper into any number of equal segments by
just varing the total number of lines.

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Charles Knuffke       "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"
153 Divisadero                                  -Jack Kerouac
San Francisco CA 94104
mailto://knuffke@sirius.com





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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 03:46:25 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Dividing edges into multiple divisions

Bernie Cosell <bernie@fantasyfarm.com> sez

>Do any of you have any tricks/techniques for dividing edges into various
>numbers of sections that you'd be willing to share.  I recently needed to
>divide an edge into sevenths and was at a loss.

The practical solution is to divide into 8 & remove a section.

cheers,

Nick Robinson
nick@homelink.demon.co.uk

***Origami is Sharing, not Selling***





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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 03:47:13 -0300 (ADT)
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Edwin Corrie - not online

Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net> sez

>I think Edwin Corrie is on this list

'Fraid not :(

cheers,

Nick Robinson
nick@homelink.demon.co.uk

***Origami is Sharing, not Selling***





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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 04:52:38 -0300 (ADT)
From: Daniel Say <say@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: digest 356 /Takahama book

"                    ORIGAMI-L Digest 356
"
" Topics covered in this issue include:
"
"   1) Re: "The Complete Origami Collection"?
"       by Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
" ----------------------------------------------------------------------
"
" Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 11:54:28 -0700
" From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
" To: origami-l@nstn.ca
" Subject: Re: "The Complete Origami Collection"?
" Message-ID: <199605261854.LAA07148@cyber16.csz.com>
"
" I have this backordered from Putnam (supplier of Japan Publications).  I
" checked with Putnam approx 2 weeks ago regarding backorder status on this
" and several other Origami books - no available date yet.  If anyone sees
" this book, please let me know so I can go back to Putnam.
" Thanks -
" Bren
" >
" >going through the archives, I came across this blurb from amazon.com....
" >> "The Complete Origami Collection"
" >> Toshie Takahama
" >> List: $17.00 -- Amazon.com Price: $15.30 -- You Save: $1.70 (10%)
" >> Publisher: JAPAN PUBNS
" >> Binding: Paperback
" >> Expected publication date: January 1996
" >> ISBN: 0870409603
" >
" >
" >Did this book ever come out? Don't think I ever saw it.
" >
" >pat slider
" >slider@yosemite.net
" >

        Here is a message the idea from the
        Amazon search-bot

Subject: Books whose keywords include "origami"

Hi, as per your request, we at Amazon.com Books are notifying you of
new books matching the following criteria:

      keywords include "origami"

The new books are listed at the end of this message.  If you're
interested in any of these books you can order them online at
http://www.amazon.com/

          Eyes
          Amazon.com Books
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P.S.  Please don't forget that Amazon.com Books has over one million
titles for you to choose from, many discounted 10 to 40 percent off
the list price.  If you have any online friends who might enjoy
Amazon.com Books, we'd really appreciate you spreading the word!
Thank you!

------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The Complete Origami Collection"

by

Toshie Takahama

List: $17.00 -- Amazon.com Price: $15.30 -- You Save: $1.70 (10%)

Publisher: Japan Pubns
Binding: Paperback
Expected publication date: June 1, 1996
ISBN: 0870409603
URL: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0870409603

------------ So a new date, and very close.





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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 05:54:01 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Na. (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi)" <nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp>
Subject: Charging for Diagrams & Homepage

In mail <EqSD5EA8HgqxEwOZ@homelink.demon.co.uk>
    nick@homelink.demon.co.uk writes:
> "Na. (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi)" <nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp> sez
>
> >We cannot distribute professional origami creators' diagrams
> >with no charge.
>
> This is a shame. How do you decide who is "professional"?

Don't you agree to call those "professional" who publish origami
books, draw diagrams, or write articles as their main business?

Or do you consider unreasonable to pay for the diagrams of the
models drawn by Kawahata-san, Yoshino-san, etc. though they're
not professional?  They've been selling their books, getting
money, buy more powerful computer, and draw more beautiful
diagrams for new models.

> I will have a new BOS web site up soon - do you want me to link to your
> page? What is the full URL?

Thank you.  Let's put a cross-link on both pages.

        http://www.ask.or.jp/"origami/t/

This front page contains bilingual anchors.

I found some origami pages written in English in Japan.  Now I'm
waiting for their permission to put links on our link page.  The
gallery of finished models which appeared on the newsletter now
has figures for three years.

--
nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi, not Kenichi Nakanishi)





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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 08:34:24 -0300 (ADT)
From: David Holmes <cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Bases

On Thu, 23 May 1996, Marc Kirschenbaum wrote:

> Do people have a favorite starting base? My favorite would probably be an
> offset fish base. I have used it to make a rat, pianist, guitarist,
> drummer, biplane, elephant, skunk, and probably a handful of others I have
> forgotten.
>
> Marc
>
How do you make an offset base?

Also, Marc, do you have diagrams for the guitarist, drummer and biplane,
etc. ?

Thanks,

David M Holmes                  cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 09:43:28 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@leatherback.nist.gov>
Subject: Re: Charging for Diagrams & Homepage

At 05:54 AM 5/29/96 -0300, Na. (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi) wrote:
>

>
>       http://www.ask.or.jp/"origami/t/
>

A typo? http://www.ask.or.jp/~origami/t/

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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 09:56:05 -0300 (ADT)
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Dividing edges into multiple divisions

Nick R. sez <<divide into eighths and remove a section..>>

Then you wouldn't have the same edge left, eg a square.

Divide a second piece of paper with an edge of the same
length into eighths and make the seven parallel creases
perpendicular to the divided edge. You now have 9 parallel
lines, counting the two perpendicular edges. Put one end
of the edge you need to divide into 7ths on one of the
edges (line one). Lay the edge across the parallel creases
diagonally so that the other end falls on the next to last
parallel line (the last crease). The intersections of the
other parallel creases with the edge of the paper mark the
divisions you need. (This is a no brainer to do, its harder
to describe.)

Its all done with nothing but paper, and your good paper
doesn't get all botched up doing interative creasing.
For 43 creases or whatever, just make the next even higher
number of parallel creases in the 2nd piece of paper (or
the next higher multiple of 4) and count off the appropriate
number to lay the edge across. This is even a whole lot
neater way to get 6ths, 12ths, etc than the more commonly
described ways.

If your ethics allow, keep a few sheets of graph paper around
instead for the parallel lines.

--valerie
Valerie Vann
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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:54:11 -0300 (ADT)
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Re: Edwin Corrie - not online

At 02:17 AM 5/29/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net> sez
>
>>I think Edwin Corrie is on this list
>
>'Fraid not :(
>
>cheers,
>
>Nick Robinson
>nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
>
>***Origami is Sharing, not Selling***

Who posted those flat duck diagrams awhile back ?   I could have sworn the
name was Corrie.  Maybe a different Corrie, or someone posted them for him.

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:57:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Re: Dividing edges into multiple divisions

At 02:08 AM 5/29/96 -0500, you wrote:

>The practical solution is to divide into 8 & remove a section.
>
>cheers,
>
>Nick Robinson
>nick@homelink.demon.co.uk

Note how carefully Nick skirts around the word cut.  Is REMOVE the
politically correct way to say it ? ;)

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net
