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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 17:29:18 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: Secret Service vs. Treasury Dept.

 I recall that David Jansen's series was about the Treasury Dept. tracking
 down and arresting counterfeiters, etc., not the Secret Service.  Are you
 saying that this was a mis-representation, or maybe that the order of
 responsibility in D.C. has changed?

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 17:36:16 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: Trains

 Another source of Origami trains is:

    "Origami Vehicles in the New Style", by Akira Kawamura,
    ISBN4-7636-3079-2 C0376, published in 1988 by
    Kyoto Shorin Co., Ltd.

 priced at 980 Yen at that time.

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 21:42:54 -0400
From: CM317@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

Sorry, I was referring to jigsaw puzzles, but all of your replies made me
remember all of the different types of puzzles.

>From 4/3/96 to 4/6/96, i received a total of 110 messages.

-Chris (cm317@aol.com) Miller





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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 22:07:27 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Ashley's on Roll !!!

..or what some would consider a BINGE!

Wow, that's a terrific lot of folding; did you remember
to eat and put out the cat and pay the power bill and
stuff like that? :-)

Congratulations!
--valerie





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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 00:31:58 -0400
From: CM317@aol.com
Subject: New C-notes (was Re:Hell money)

In a message dated 96-04-04 10:52:57 EST, you write:

>In my last utility bill "newsletter" there was a blurb at the reintroduction
>of the $100 bill into American currency.  But the bill is going to be
>different from before.  One of the differences I recall being mentioned is
>that the portrait will not be centered.  Also according to the newsletter,
>other denominations will undergo similar anti-counterfeiting "adjustments".

When we went on vacation last week, my parents got some of these C-notes.
They thought they looked rather goofy, but I thought they were neater.

Some of the differences in the new and old bills were the paper it was
printed on; this paper is thinner than the old cottonier paper, and the
portrait of Jackson(right person?) is larger and set off-center to the left,
to make counterfeiting(sp?) harder, and another anti-counterfieting thingy
were Moire line patterns, and water-marking the bills.  The number 100 isn't
curved around the corner edges of the bill, it is set straight and horizontal
on the top and bottom.  It also has different stamps on it, I think a federal
reserve stamp on it.

It has been a couple days since I've seen it, so anybody else can add stuff
on to my briefing.  If you can, I would get one of these bills, they are
nice.

-Chris (cm317@aol.com) Miller





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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 01:24:12 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Alternate/found materials

I stumbled across an interesting material at my local hardware
store a week ago (its affiliated with the USA/West Coast chain
ACE Hardware):

BRASS SHIM.

I'd seen this in small pieces before, eg. 1x3 inches,
but the store had it in rolls, 6 in x 50 feet. Brass shim is used
by machinists to compensate for small errors in dimensions, similar
to putting a washer under something to raise it, only shim is used
under plates, between parts etc. So it comes in various thicknesses.

The store had a dispenser meant to hold multiple rolls of various
thickness, but were out of all but the thinnest, which happens to
be 0.001 inch or 0.025mm (?). This is about like heavy bond paper,
and sells for 69 cents a foot, so since its 6 inches wide, its about
the same as some fancy origami paper.

AND its thin enough to fold. I haven't actually done anything serious
with it yet, but it would be neat for modulars. Two drawbacks though:
it would have to be lacquered to prevent tarnishing, and also it
produces world-class "paper cuts" (of OUCH! variety), both of which
I knew going in, but you might bear in mind if you decide to try it.

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 01:48:39 -0400
From: LEMIEUXJ@woods.uml.edu
Subject: Re: query to lit ref to origami (arthur Ransome)

   From: reeds@openix.com (Reeds Family)
 > PS SPeaking of Arthur Ransome--can anyone tell me how to make the paper box
 > referred to in a lovely passage on on p. 203 of MISSEE LEE:
 >         Peggy folded the paper and cut it square with her scoutknife. The
 > she folded in
 >         the corners so that it became a smaller square. The she folded
 > again. It turned
 >         into a hat, a double-ended boat, a salt cellar.
 >         "Bother," said Peggy. "I've forgotten how."
 >         "No, you haven't," said Nancy. "Go on. You fold and fold and then
 > unfold and cut bits out."
 >         "It's not a very good one," said Peggy a few minutes later.

Hi Karen,

    Sounds like "How Charlie Bought His Boat" a paper folding story that is
chapter 5 of "Paper Folding for Beginners" by Murray and Rigney (Dover 1960)
(formerly titled: "Fun with Paper Folding" 1928). The story progresses from
a Salt Cellar, Cake Basket, Shirt Waist, Trousers, Table, Windmill, Twin
Rowboats, Sailboat, Rooster, Pocketbook, Hat, to finally a Chinese Junk.

Bob
J. Robert A. Lemieux
lemieuxj@woods.uml.edu





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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 08:40:09 -0300
From: Alex Bateman <agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Wetfolding with steam

Hello folks,
            I recently discovered a new (as far as I know) technique for
wet folding. When wet-folding complex models I often find that the
thickest parts of the model with many layers dry out very quickly. These
areas are also the hardest to dampen again, I used to either unfold and
damp then refold, or try and moisten in between the layers mid fold.
However I have found that holding the relavent part of the model over a
boiling kettle for a couple of seconds moistens the area evenly and
deeply into the paper allowing me to continue folding. Of course this
technique involves an element of danger, but the results are worth it!

Bye for now
Alex

- Alex Bateman
- MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
- agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
- Phone: (01223) 402479
- http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/origami.html





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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 13:34:42 -0300
From: Maumoy@aol.com
Subject: Secret Service

According to the U.S. Gov't Manual, under titles 3 and 18 of the US Code, the
Secret Service has the authority and responsibility

--to detect and arrest any person committing any offense against the laws of
the United States relating to currency, coins, obligations, and securities of
the United States or of foreign governments.

They also protect the President & provide security at the White House.

They are part of the Treasury Department, equivalent organizationally to the
IRS.

Hope this clears up some confusion in Digest 297.

Marcia Mau





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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 14:19:56 -0300
From: NYC Blue Eyes <NYCBLUEEYES@delphi.com>
Subject: Wetfolding with steam

   I'm relatively new at origami (and LOVE this phenomenal list).
   Would someone please be kind enough to tell me just what is wetfolding
and when I would use it?
   Thankyou so much!





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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 14:46:01 -0300
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Re: locomotive model

Mark -
Do you have any information on the publisher (and therefore availability) of
this book?  Sounds like one I would like to add to the line.
Thanks -
Bren
-----------------------------

>What is the English title?  The Encyclopedia of Paper? by Paul Jackson.
>It is a very nice book about serious art work with paper in which one
>of the techniques discussed is origami.  I really like the second "half"
>of the book where there are many beautiful photos of art object made of
>paper some of which are origami.
>
>                                       ... Mark
>
>P.S. In case any of you are wondering, I just stumbled upon the French
>     edition in the public library in Montreal.  I don't think I've ever
>     seen the original English edition.
>
>
>>
>> Hi y'all,
>> If I don't mistake, I've read somewhere that there exists a locomotive
model. Does anyone
>> know where I could find it, or anyone kind enough to xerox it and send it
to me. My fatheris mad about steam locomotives, and I'd like to make him a
little gift.
>>
>> Bye.
>> Mathieu Ciarlet           ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr
>> http://www.dauphine.fr/~ciarlma6/
>> "May the fold be with you"
>>
>
>
>--
>*-------------------------------------------------------*
>|          Mark E. Casida                               |
>|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |
>*-------------------------------------------------------*
>
>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 14:51:30 -0300
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Re: KAMI

My apologies if this sound a little to "advertisey" - but this message
seemed the appropriate time to let you know that in regards to the Kotobuki
line of Origami paper - I carry the entire line.  If you are looking for
something in particular and don't see on the website, I can still help you
find it - and will be happy to.
Thank you -
Bren
-------------------------------------

>I use kami from Kotobuki (the supplier for OrigamiUSA), and I've found
>that the pastel colors are generally *more* flexible and durable than
>the "shinier" ones.  For example, I've had Lang's Praying Mantis turn to
>mush on me when using brown Kotobuki kami, but when I use the "dusty"
>pastel green (not the lime green, which is shinier), it turns out just
>fine.
>
>Nowadays, I always try hard models first with light pink, yellow, light
>blue, or lavender.  My Lang insects collection looks mighty colorful,
>let me tell ya...  :^)
>
>YMMV, of course.
>
>-Tim
>--
>Tim Rueger             Motorola CCRL IC Design Laboratory, IL02-2921
>Phone: (708) 538-5092  1301 E. Algonquin Rd., Schaumburg, IL 60196
>Fax  : (708) 538-4593  Internet: rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com
>
>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:34:25 -0300
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Used Origami Books

Used Origami Books - ummm . . . .  Did this get everyone's attention?

It was suggested to me by several members of this list, that one way I could
be of service to each of you would be to provide a "Classified Page" on my
website.  This page would be a listing of any used Origami books available
with the pertinent contact information.

I am interested in trying this with the following thoughts in mind:

1.  Books listed must be "out-of-print" (or not available in our product line)
2.  Requests for classified to be sent to: sales@fascinating-folds.com
3.  Classified should include title, author, publisher, date of print or any
other pertinent information.  Should also include price, name of current
owner, and email address for contact.
4.  Purchase arrangements are between the advertiser and prospective purchaser.
5.  Fee - None

I will post this page as soon as I have at least 5 "ads" - so let me know if
you are interested.

Thanks -
Bren
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
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Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:40:53 -0300
From: dzimm@nando.net (David Zimmerman)
Subject: Re: Ships models

"> Alon Hazay wrote ..."
> *** THE SKY IS THE LIMIT ***
>
The sky is not the limit, the ground is.  Skydive!

--
David P Zimmerman             dzimm@nando.net
916 Riderwood Ct               919 557 7692
WillowSpring NC 27592           D-17293

"But what do we do about moose and squirrel?"    -Boris Badanov





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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 21:41:19 -0300
From: terryh@lamg.com (Terry Hall)
Subject: Re: Re: Re: BOS supplies and query to lit ref to origami (arthur
         Ransome)

Hi Peggy,
Just read your post on the Origami List and noticed that you are associated
with UCLA. The West Coast Origami Guild ( now in its 26th year) meets this
coming Saturday (13th April) at the Westside Hospital, 910 Fairfax Ave., just
North of Olympic, from 1pm to 4pm in the doctor's lounge. There are usually
over 20 poeple in attendance. We meet every month on the second Saturday of
the month at this location and time. You would be welcome to stop in and join
us. Parking is directly behind the hospital. If you need more information
please e-mail me.

Terry Hall
terryh@lamg.com





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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 22:08:17 -0300
From: Namir Gharaibeh <U50879@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Secret Service

On Sun, 7 Apr 1996 13:36:08 -0300 <Maumoy@aol.com> said:
>According to the U.S. Gov't Manual, under titles 3 and 18 of the US Code, the
>Secret Service has the authority and responsibility
 -stuff deleted-
 No offense, but did anyone actually plan on burning MONEY?

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Me and the world, see, we got  :            Namir Gharaibeh           |
|     this understanding.        :     a.k.a.  U50879@uicvm.uic.edu     |
|                                :   University of Illinois at Chicago  |





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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:33:00 -0300
From: Allen Parry <parry@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Secret Service

On Sun, 7 Apr 1996, Namir Gharaibeh wrote:

>  No offense, but did anyone actually plan on burning MONEY?
>
>

Namir,

The original comments were about burning origami models. Then someone
asked about dollar bill origami (having money to burn).

Then I got started with discussion of a methodology on how to shink a
dollar bill using nitric acid, but I warned people that it was illegal.
Then we questioned if that was really the case, since we had
seen penny stamping machines and dollar bills with Santa's face on them.
Anyway, since, we now know very clearly that its illegal to make paper
money unfit for circulation and without a doubt it is the secret service who
enforces the law.

I'd say we've whipped this dead horse (and I pray that this comment
doesn't start a whole new thread of discussions on cruelty to animals.)

So. . . that's the story. . .

Allen Parry





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 01:28:13 -0300
From: PenneyA@aol.com
Subject: Re: What is a flasher - not Brill!

Well Pat, you're in luck.  Another member of our origami list asked for the
same thing.  His name is Chris.  I have a copy of the diagram and sent it to
him.  He probably won't get it until April 7th.  If you would like a copy of
it, I will need your snail mail address also.
                             Penney





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 01:32:53 -0300
From: PenneyA@aol.com
Subject: Re: What is a flasher - not Brill!

Bob the flasher should close that tight.  If you came even close to getting
the folds correct, you need to slowly coax the thing to swirl, I use foil
paper that is not too thin.  It is really hard to understand it if you don't
have one in front of your face.  so if all else fails you can Email me your
snail mail address and I will send you one that I have made.
                              PenneyA@aol.com





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 01:37:45 -0300
From: PenneyA@aol.com
Subject: Re: I'm on a role!!!

I am impressed!  I know how excited I was when I managed the ant.  I haven't
had much time lately to try any others because they really take time and
concentration.  At least now I know who to write to if I get stuck!
                                       Penney





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 04:01:44 -0300
From: JovianSoft@aol.com
Subject: Re: What is a flasher - not Brill!

Hello Penney,

My name is Neil Alexander. My wife and I are putting the finishing touches on
a CD-ROM program on origami (in conjunction with Robert Lang & Peter Engel).
I was intrigued with this "flasher" thing.

Could you give me some info on it? It sounds like it might be cool to put a
reference to it in our program.

Thanks.

Neil





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 06:13:36 -0300
From: "Na. (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi)" <nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp>
Subject: Current Status/Origami Tanteidan Home Page

Hello, all

At first, Let me appologize about our bad response to all of
those who have been visiting our home page often and who offered
to help us voluntary.  I'd like to appologize to the members here
becaues it seems more than 90% of the access to be made by the
people of this list.

Unfortunatelly our chief editor disappeared from the network to
hospital more than a month ago without any notice.  We couldn't
take enough action to fill the blank quickly because we couldn't
correspond with him nor couldn't know the fact of this delicate
problem.

I was selected as an acting chief editor to keep renewing the
page.  Please wait for a moment.

In the course of this month, our home page will move to a server
of a commercial provider and will be able to publicate the
existence.  We Tanteidan also bought a digital camera to introduce
the photos of newborn models and an atmosphere of our meeting in
every month as soon as possible.

Origami Tanteidan Convention '96 will be postponed to the end of
June because we missed the lottery of the use of the public space
in May.

Sorry for those who aren't interested in our circle nor in the
event in Japan.

Thank you.

--
nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi, not Kenichi Nakanishi)





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 10:52:09 -0300
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: E-Mail Addresses

Sorry to hit the list with this
Hmm,

I have received alot of comments lately that I would reply to personally
rather on the list.  Is there a way of getting the originators E-mail
address from the post ?  My Email package (eudora) shows the
origami-l@nstn.ca as the sender.

And if not, could our users please tag their messages at the end, not only
with their Name (<- some don't even do this) but with their Email address as
well.

Thanx,

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 10:56:36 -0300
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Re: New C-notes (was Re:Hell money)

At 10:34 PM 4/6/96 -0500, you wrote:

I thought Ben Franklin was on the 100 ?

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:03:33 -0300
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Re: Wetfolding with steam

At 11:22 AM 4/7/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>   I'm relatively new at origami (and LOVE this phenomenal list).
>   Would someone please be kind enough to tell me just what is wetfolding
>and when I would use it?
>   Thankyou so much!
>

Wetfolding is a technique of dampening the whole sheet of paper BEFORE you
begin to fold it, and then continuing on with the folding as you would
normally (very carefully).

If you have a web browser, there are a few documents on wet folding on the
web, Try Joseph Wu's page
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:07:06 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: computer programs, transfinites and proofs

RL:<< you can
mathematically specify where all of the creases go to give you the desired
base.>>

VV:<< Meaning, I presume, that the crease map can be drawn by computer, if
you've got the horsepower to solve the equations? Where does the size/shape
of the paper come into it; i.e. does that have to be specified in advance, or
is square paper assumed?
[Sorry, we're starting to worm the entire paper out of you in advance
of publication. Curiosity getting the better of patience... :-]>>

That's okay, I'm already telling it to anyone who'll stand still for it. Yes:
that's exactly right: the crease map can be drawn by computer. The shape of
the paper can be chosen arbitrarily -- it just changes some of the equations
if you use a triangle or rectangle (or whatever) instead of a square. The
size of the paper (or equivalently, the ratio between the size of the paper
and the size of the resulting base) is determined by the algorithm. I've
described the algorithm before (it's the basis of TreeMaker, which as always
you can find at ftp.rug.nl/origami/programs); what's new in the ACM talk is a
proof that the algorithm always works and a more rigorous statement of the
underlying assumptions and limitations.

Robert





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:31:45 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: origami references

> In fact, he sounds like a regular Robert
> Lang type since one of his inventions is a bull - complete
> with male genitalia...

I feel compelled to point out that, despite a certain obsession with
appendages, I have yet to go to *that* particular level of detail!

Although, come to think of it, I recall once seeing a bull by Gabriel Alvarez
that was, er, fully equipped.

Robert Lang





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:32:12 -0300
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Re: I'm on a role!!!

I'm impressed as well, the only model I have attempted was the Scarab
beetle, and it took me quite a few attempts to "fold a few layers to the front".

Diagrams ususally depict the "Outside" of a model, with such complicated
folds as Mr. Langs, there is usually quite a complex internal structure as well.

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:35:49 -0300
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Re: Used Origami Books

Wow,

Bren watch out for the scratching and biting.

I have never seen a used origami book for sale.  Actually it may be an oxymoron.

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:39:43 -0300
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: E-Mail Addresses

>
> I have received alot of comments lately that I would reply to personally
> rather on the list.  Is there a way of getting the originators E-mail
> address from the post ?  My Email package (eudora) shows the
> origami-l@nstn.ca as the sender.

I think that sending the listserv the command:
review origami-l
will result in your being sent a list of all the members on the list and
their email addresses.

>
> And if not, could our users please tag their messages at the end, not only
> with their Name (<- some don't even do this) but with their Email address as
> well.

Good idea.

--
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:04:01 -0300
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: Spider Models

     Could someone(s) please tell me which books contain the most realistic
     spider models?

     JAndre@cfipro.com





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:02:10 -0300
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re:  New C-notes (was Re:Hell money)

The right bill - wrong person - Ben Franklin is on the c-note. I think it is
rather silly of the government to try to make the things "non-counterfeitable"
and then tell everyone about all the changes!!! ;-) I have "heard"
that there have already been people caught trying to copy the things!





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:23:28 -0300
From: chiug@cognos.com (Grace Chiu)
Subject: Paper sources at JFK? San Juan, PR?

This Saturday morning I'll be travelling to San Juan, Puerto Rico with a
3-hour layover at JFK.  Someone recently mentioned finding paper at another
airport.  I haven't been to JFK in about 12 years.  Are there any paper
shops there?

Any chances that I can arrange pick up an OUSA library book there?  ..OFTC,
in particular, if it's available :+)  I'll buy ya breakfast.

And while in San Juan, are there any places where I find some interesting paper?

Buenos nachos,

Grace
---
Grace Chiu, Enslavened Manager, Technology Support Services,
Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa, ON, Canada
"Do or do not.  There is no 'try'."  -- Yoda





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:33:36 -0300
From: Wolfgang Roeckelein <wolfgang@wi.whu-koblenz.de>
Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: Citation

Vincent OSELE wrote:
> I remember also that a policeman fold a small crane in the film "Blade
> Runner".
>
> Do you know other origami citations ?

Origami is a central piece in understanding blade runner!! Esp. if you
watch the directors cut, the officer folds a unicorn before the dream
sequence with the unicorn, so he knows deckers dreams, so decker is a
replicant himself. Also all the other origami models in the film have a
meaning, mostly in this direction!

  Wolfgang





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:43:54 -0300
From: dzimm@nando.net (David Zimmerman)
Subject: Re: Spider Models

"> Jennifer Andre wrote ..."
>
>      Could someone(s) please tell me which books contain the most realistic
>      spider models?
>

My favorites are the two spiders in "Origami Insects and their Kin"
I was not able to fold them out of anything weaker than unryu, though.

--
David P Zimmerman             dzimm@nando.net
916 Riderwood Ct               919 557 7692
WillowSpring NC 27592           D-17293

"It's a hardware bug!" "It's a software bug!"
"It's two...two...two bugs in one!" - _Engineer's Rap_





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:10:33 -0300
From: hazay@ibm.net (Alon Hazay)
Subject: Re: Ships models

Hi Nick!

I would like to get this book from you so please Email me the price you
want for it and youe address.
By the way, I am from Israel so take this in consideration!

Alon

>> I'm looking for interesting ship models.
>
>Theres a ship by Ted Darwin (head on for a change) in a book I published
>some years ago called "One dozen folds" - I believe OUSA have a few in
>stock? If not, I can mail you one at a modest price....
>
>cheers,
>
>Nick Robinson
>
>nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
>http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html
>
>
>
Alon Hazay
Israel
Email: hazay@ibm.net

*** THE SKY IS THE LIMIT ***





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:26:15 -0300
From: Ninety Six Elementary <frick@emeraldis.com>
Subject: Re: Kansai Area Origami Supplies

At 03:07 PM 4/4/96 -0400, you wrote:
>     In about three weeks, I plan to be in the Kansai Area (Osaka, Kyoto,
>     Kobe...
>
>     - Where can I get the best deal on paper?  (I don't want to drag
>     *much* paper across the water, so I plan to get some there and leave
>     it there.)
>
  One shop in Kyoto that I found was in the same building as the Museum of
Kyoto.  Shop had some nice paper, and was the only place I was able to find
in Japan that had all issues of the magazine ORU.  I don't remember the name
of the shop but will try to find it and send it along

Marsha DuPre





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:03:53 -0300
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: origami in the X-files!

My friend tells me that origami was a main theme in the X-Files TV show
Friday night. Apparently the fact that the little girl knew how to fold
complex models was a clue to help them believe that she was the
reincarnation of a murdered policeman, who happened to be an ardent
paperfolder. Did anyone see this show? The policeman wanted to fold every
animal in a painting of Noah's Ark, and he was killed before he got to the
giraffe, the last animal he was to fold. The girl then folded a giraffe,
left in on the doorstep of the policeman's widow, rang the doorbell and ran
off, leaving the widow to find the giraffe.

        I actually didn't see the show, my friend is giving me all of the
details...does anyone know what giraffe model this was? Engel's, Montroll's?
Was anyone involved in making the origami for this show?

-Eric :-P

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
         A                   A
        /|\            \    /|\
       / | \            \\ / | \ /7\             .
      /__|__\            \/__|__\/            a miniature
      \  |  /             \_/ \_/               Lang cicada
       \ | /             Flapping
        \|/                bird
         V                                            Eric Andersen
     Bird Base           http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric/origami





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:09:37 -0300
From: Kim Best <Kim.Best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: New C-notes (was Re:Hell money)

On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, BOB T. LYNCH wrote:

> The right bill - wrong person - Ben Franklin is on the c-note. I think it is
> rather silly of the government to try to make the things "non-counterfeitable"
> and then tell everyone about all the changes!!! ;-) I have "heard"
> that there have already been people caught trying to copy the things!
>

Actually, the biggest problem is not identifying counterfeits if you are
an expert, almost all conterfeit have some small flaw.

The big problem is the bills that cannot be identified by the average
merchant.  So what the goverment wants is a bill that is hard to
counterfeit even if you DO KNOW the anti-counterfeiting devices.  That
way even the average person will know when he is getting bogus money.

A good example is the thin metal strip they are putting in the large
denominations. They are hard to put in but, despite what you may have
seen on the X-Files, they are easy to detect.  All you have to do is hold
the bill up to the light

Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *    Curse you Robert!!       *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   *  Now my apartment is being  *
420 Chipeta Way #120                *    Overrun with insects!    *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:15:57 -0300
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: Used Origami Books

>I have never seen a used origami book for sale.  Actually it may be an
>oxymoron.

Just have to turn over a lot of rocks :->! They are out there....just takes
some determination.  Best chances are at bookstores that carry lots of
hardbacks...especially those situated in old houses :->.  Stores with
mostly popular paperbacks aren't as likely to have anything.

I can almost always find something if I keep looking in bookstores within a
large urban area (the Bay Area, Houston, etc.). Of course, bookstores are
like magnets for me....if they are open when I walk by, I just have to peek
in the craft section, and for my favorite authors, and....

pat slider
slider@yosemite.net





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:46:57 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Used Origami Books

Yes, there are used origami books.  I am still kicking myself for not
having bought a Portuguese, two volume, hard-cover opus of origami
animals at Moe's in Berkeley 10 years ago (I forget the title).  As I
recall, they had a whole SHELF of used origami books then.

        -- jeannine mosely (j9@concentra.com)





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:11:41 -0300
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.com
Subject: Klingon Model

sorry for the general post
but
   i accidently removed the email
   that stated the person who has the klingon diagrams
   and would send them out with an SASE

  /-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-///plieur de papier\\\-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\
 /=-= jack thomas weres                       jtweres@psp.ih.att.com =-=\
/=======================\\\================///===========================\
"Let Go and Let Fold"                               "One Crease At A Time"





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:48:02 -0300
From: Gordon Crane <gordonc@mnsinc.com>
Subject: Tassels for Kusudama

After searching for more than a year for the material to make tassels for
Kusudamas, I finally found it.  The only problem was that I had to buy it by
the reel.  So if there is anyone out there who would like to buy some from me
please drop me an E-mail note.

Thanks,
Gordon





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:48:51 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: New C-notes (was Re:Hell money)

> I think it is
> rather silly of the government to try to make the things
> "non-counterfeitable" and then tell everyone about all the changes!!!

How do you know they told you about _all_ the changes? ;-) I'd be curious to
see if there's any fluoresecence under UV illumination, for example.

Robert Lang
rjlang@aol.com





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:33:11 -0300
From: lin6@cooper.edu (Wally Lynn)
Subject: Re: New C-notes (was Re:Hell money)

The "metal"strip now glows pink.
Say, if they didn't tell people about the changes, how would the public know
if they were phony or not?  I spent one, and the cashier didn't even know they
(the new bills) existed.  Unfortunately, it wasn't for an origami book.

Walter Lin
lin6@cooper.edu

>> I think it is
>> rather silly of the government to try to make the things
>> "non-counterfeitable" and then tell everyone about all the changes!!!

>How do you know they told you about _all_ the changes? ;-) I'd be curious to
>see if there's any fluoresecence under UV illumination, for example.
>
>Robert Lang





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:46:30 -0300
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: used origami books

 Hey!  I got a copy of Honda's "The World of Origami", 2nd edition, 1966,
 at a library sale for $1.50...

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:04:47 -0300
From: Allen Parry <parry@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Used Origami Books

On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, Pat Slider wrote:

> >I have never seen a used origami book for sale.  Actually it may be an
> >oxymoron.
>
> Just have to turn over a lot of rocks :->! They are out there....just takes
> some determination.  Best chances are at bookstores that carry lots of
> hardbacks...especially those situated in old houses :->.  Stores with
> mostly popular paperbacks aren't as likely to have anything.
>

One rock, that was mentioned by Gretchen, was Powell's Bookstore in
Portland, OR.  I was down there a couple of weeks ago and found several
used origami books that I wanted.  What's also nice is that they're on
the net at: http://www.powells.portland.or.us

They're an extremely large bookstore with both new and used books.

Allen Parry  parry@eskimo.com





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:18:19 -0300
From: rmoes@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (Rob Moes)
Subject: Re: origami references

Robert Lang, in reply to the list:

>> In fact, he sounds like a regular Robert
>> Lang type since one of his inventions is a bull - complete
>> with male genitalia...
>
>I feel compelled to point out that, despite a certain obsession with
>appendages, I have yet to go to *that* particular level of detail!
>
>Although, come to think of it, I recall once seeing a bull by Gabriel Alvarez
>that was, er, fully equipped.

Herman van Goubergen's lion is wonderfully detailed and would definitely
*not* be mistaken for a lioness!  In fact, the distinctively male features
are color-changed....  (Reference diagrams:  BOS #128, Feb. 88)

--Rob Moes





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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:41:34 -0300
From: JovianSoft@aol.com
Subject: 4 Beta Testers Needed

Hello,

As you all may know, our mysterious Origami CD-ROM is nearing production. We
need, however a couple of testers from the Origami community to test the
program. For this round of testing, we need the following configurations:

Macintosh Quadra (any model)
System 7.0 or better
8 Meg RAM
CD-ROM drive
640x480 color monitor or bigger
Printer or Color Printer (optional)

Macintosh Power Mac 6100/66 or 7100/66
System 7.5 or later
16 Meg RAM
CD-ROM Drive
640x480 color monitor with millions of colors or bigger.
Printer or Color Printer (optional)

Macintosh LCII or LCIII
System 7.0 or later
8 Meg RAM
CD-ROM Drive
640x480 color monitor
Imagewriter II color printer with color ribbon

Macintosh Quadra (any Model)
System 7.0 or later
8 Meg RAM
CD-ROM Drive
640x480 Color Monitor or better.
-> Any Radius or SuperMac Video Card displaying millions of colors
Printer or color printer(optional)

Testers should be in the US, and willing to spend about 10 to 20 hours total
time to test every part of the program. Also, we'll need you to work on the
program in the *very* near future (like in about 10 days) In return for your
help, you'll receive credit in the "About Box", and a free copy of the
released program.

Send queries to JovianSoft@aol.com





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 00:24:29 -0300
From: NYC Blue Eyes <NYCBLUEEYES@delphi.com>
Subject: Re: Wetfolding with steam

Dear Brett,
   Thankyou so much for your helpful description. I REALLY
appreciate it!





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 00:27:54 -0300
From: Maumoy@aol.com
Subject: Art of the Golden Venture Refugees

The Winter 1996 issue of  Bu Gao Ban, a publication of The Museum of Chinese
in the Americas has an article about the exhibit and a photo of a pagoda-like
creation.  Most of the paper appears rolled into small cylinders.  There are
strings of what looks like tetrahedrons attached at the top.  The article
mentions the creation of 10,000 works of folded paper and papier mache art.
 The exhibit is to travel to museums in Pennsylvania and New Jersey.  Any
info on which museums and exhibition dates?

Marcia Mau





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 02:13:58 -0300
From: Namir Gharaibeh <U50879@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Jeremy Schafer's models

Does anyone know if Jeremy Schafer is planning on publishing a book
with all his wonderful models?

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Me and the world, see, we got  :            Namir Gharaibeh           |
|     this understanding.        :     a.k.a.  U50879@uicvm.uic.edu     |
|                                :   University of Illinois at Chicago  |





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 06:53:39 -0300
From: "M.J.van.Gelder" <M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Re: Gum wrapper chains

Here in Holland I've never seen a gum wrapper chain. So last Thursday after
receiving the written description I tried to make a small one.
The description was not clear enough to me, but I managed to make some kind
of chain.
But fortunately I also received by snail mail (on the same day!) the book of
J.C.Nolan that had the real diagrams for it.
It appeared I'd made something totally different! Strange coincidence isn't
it?

The reason I'm very interested in the gum wrapper chain is that last summer
I've created a unit to build a garland. In York (BOS autumn convention) we
(the Dutch people) had a garland with a length of 5 meter on display. We
folded 120 units (from sheets about 1:3). These units are basically the same
as the unit for my vest (see 'plane unit' in the archives).
We'll try and make a lot more of these units (and a longer garland) on our
(=OSN) convention in Veldhoven on the 20th of April.

But it seems now I've found a still more simple unit to make a garland.

Maarten van Gelder,           Rekencentrum RuG,  RijksUniversiteit Groningen
M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl                         Nederland





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:11:29 -0300
From: Allen Parry <parry@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: New C-notes (was Re:Hell money)

On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 Rjlang@aol.com wrote:

>
> How do you know they told you about _all_ the changes? ;-) I'd be curious to
> see if there's any fluoresecence under UV illumination, for example.
>

Being the nerd I am, I have a high power UV light.  I just put the bill
under it (my eyes are still seeing spots).  The only thing that showed up
that glowed was the internal stripe.

Popular Science recently did an article on the changes made to the $100
bill.  I've tried to find that issue but I've not yet been able to find
where I have placed it.

Allen Parry  parry@eskimo.com





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:37:30 -0300
From: "Ashley G. Perrien" <perr2232@kutztown.edu>
Subject: Re: Spider Models

>      Could someone(s) please tell me which books contain the most realistic
>      spider models?
>
In Origami Zoo (Lang & Weiss) there's a black widow spider that actually
depicts the hourglass marking. It's a fairly nice model.

AshleyP





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:48:14 -0300
From: marmonk@eskimo.com (Mark Morden)
Subject: Re: 4 Beta Testers Needed

>Hello,
>
>As you all may know, our mysterious Origami CD-ROM is nearing production. We
>need, however a couple of testers from the Origami community to test the
>program. For this round of testing, we need the following configurations:
>
>Macintosh Quadra (any model)
>Macintosh Power Mac 6100/66 or 7100/66
>Macintosh LCII or LCIII
>Macintosh Quadra (any Model)

Does this mean this CD-ROM will not be available in Windows or PC
formats????????  How cruel!

Mark

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I belive in the rising sun;
not because I see it but by it I see all else.
                                           C.S. Lewis





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:10:32 -0300
From: "David M. Dewey" <dmdewey@yrkpa.kias.com>
Subject: Re: 4 Beta Testers Needed

Mark Morden wrote:

>
> >Hello,
> >
> >As you all may know, our mysterious Origami CD-ROM is nearing production. We
> >need, however a couple of testers from the Origami community to test the
> >program. For this round of testing, we need the following configurations:
> >
> >Macintosh Quadra (any model)
> >Macintosh Power Mac 6100/66 or 7100/66
> >Macintosh LCII or LCIII
> >Macintosh Quadra (any Model)
>
> Does this mean this CD-ROM will not be available in Windows or PC
> formats????????  How cruel!
>
> Mark
>
> Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
> --------------------------------------------------------
> I believe in Christianity as I belive in the rising sun;
> not because I see it but by it I see all else.
>                                            C.S. Lewis
>

I'm anxious to test the IBM/DOS/Windows version WHEN it comes out!

 ----------------------------------------------------------
                              Dave Dewey
                              dmdewey@yrkpa.kias.com
                              http://yrkpa.kias.com/~dmdewey





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:22:00 -0300
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Spider Models

>In Origami Zoo (Lang & Weiss) there's a black widow spider that actually
>depicts the hourglass marking. It's a fairly nice model.

        Agreed!  If one happens to be an aesthete, though, and prefer
models from squares, then it's actually extremely easy to use the otherwise
useless lower flap in Montroll's spider from _Animal Origami for the
Enthusiast_ to make an houglass too, although that particular model is
somewhat more difficult to be made to give the characteristic puffy abdomen
of the real black widow spider.

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

      \\             _^
      \\\         __/   >     "...having...seen those Grounds, out
       \ \\     _/       >    of which are digg'd up _shells_, and
   /    \ \\  _/         >    such like other things cast out by the
 _//_----\ \-/          >     Sea, and that everywhere we might es-
/   ( )    o           >      timate the number of times...the Sea
v--_                 >        had troubled here and there..."
    )     \ \   \_ >
^--/       \\  /                         - Nicolaus Steno, 1671





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:54:45 -0300
From: Loretta Hudelot <Loretta_Hudelot@sch.org>
Subject: RE: A Miniature Lang Cicada

    .

          A Miniature Lang Cicada

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     --------

Eric -

I love it!   Does this mean a miniature Lang butterfly looks like this?

                       ..
                                   A Miniature Lang butterfly

What a hoot!

Loretta  (Loretta_Hudelot@sch.org)





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:59:26 -0300
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Updated Origami Supplies List

Hello,

        I have an Origami USA supplies list dated October 1995, is there a
newer one ?

        I'm curious if OUSA has Kawahatas, Dinosaur Origami 2 listed.  If
it's available, could someone give me the order number.  I would like to
order both volumes at the same time.

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:09:19 -0300
From: hull@hypatia.math.uri.edu
Subject: Re: Jeremy Schafer's models

Hey!  Namir wrote:

> Does anyone know if Jeremy Schafer is planning on publishing a book
> with all his wonderful models?

        I know that he's working on such a book right now.  I don't
think he's found a publisher yet, and he might try to self-publish
it first, like J.C. Nolan did with his "Creating Origami".  Keep
your eyes and ears peeled!

------------ Tom "whatever thingamabob" Hull





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:02:33 -0300
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Used Origami Books - Follow-up

Judging by the messages here and sent to me privately, there is at least
some interest in this idea.

Yes, I plan on listing "Wanted" and "For Sale" books.  My thought is that if
the wanted books are also listed, then those who are pulled (i.e. by
magnets) into used book stores could assist the others in locating some of
these treasures.

My only "rules" are:

>1.  Books listed must be "out-of-print" (or not available in our product line)
>2.  Requests for classified to be sent to: sales@fascinating-folds.com
>3.  Classified should include title, author, publisher, date of print or
any other pertinent information.  Should >also include price, name of
current owner, and email address for contact.
>4.  Purchase arrangements are between the advertiser and prospective purchaser.
>5.  Fee - None

As a friendly word of note:  I am constantly adding titles to our line - if
a book is currently in-print, I would appreciate information on the
publisher in order that I might locate it and add it.

Also:  I maintain an email mailing list, the members of which receive
postings from me when we add new products or have special announcements
[specials].  If anyone would like to be added to list, please email me
privately.

Thanks -
Bren
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:34:00 -0300
From: Jennifer.Campbell@cciw.ca (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: useful origami

Hi everyone,

One day last week, I had a refreshing origami interlude in what was
otherwise a stressful, busy day at work. I answered the phone, expecting
another user with a database crisis, but instead it was someone who said
"You don't know me, but I'm a biologist on the 5th floor and I have an
origami emergency. Can you help?" [I work in a large government building
full of scientists.] He had tracked me down by asking his fellow scientists
who had origami dragons perched on their computer monitors (which I folded
for a charity fundraiser), until someone remembered my name.

Turns out this fellow is a scout leader. In a recent issue of a leaders'
magazine there were instructions for several origami containers that he
wanted to teach his group. He had no origami experience, though, and was
having trouble with what he desdribed on the phone as a "pot". A pot? Yes,
a cooking pot, he replied. Noting his French accent, I thought something
had been lost in the translation--I was excited to see this pot! (But what
an unusual thing to teach to a group of boys!)

Well, I could see his problem with the diagrams. Hand drawn with wiggly
lines, unstandard symbology (no distinction between mountain and valley!),
missing steps and accompanying vague but verbose written instructions...not
a good intro to learning from origami diagrams for this guy. When I got to
the step which had trapped him, which involved putting my fingers under
these two flaps and swinging out the top layer, he squealed with delight.
EeeaAhhh! Look at that!

Now this is the ultimate in "origami foil". The pot is really just a simple
origami box, and a good one to teach to beginners (though I couldn't tell
you "which one" it is). The scout leader was going to teach it first with
paper, then foil, then the ultimate challenge: a large-size model made from
multiple layers of heavy-duty foil. The "pot" was going to be used to boil
water at their next campfire!

Now that's a new one. I hope it's safe, and they don't try to lift it off
the grill full of boiling water! But for boiling eggs or something,
wouldn't that be neat? I hope it leads to many more origami adventures for
the scout leader and his troupe.

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__Jennifer.Campbell@cciw.ca





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 14:57:22 -0300
From: JovianSoft@aol.com
Subject: Re: 4 Beta Testers Needed

Mark said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Does this mean this CD-ROM will not be available in Windows or PC
formats????????  How cruel!
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

No,no,no,no! The Macintosh version will be done first. The Windows 3.1 &
Windows 95 version will be done before the end of the Summer! Don't worry,
the Windows version is already in progress.

Neil





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:43:24 -0300
From: Michael Adcock <adcock@Menudo.UH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Tassels for Kusudama

>
> After searching for more than a year for the material to make tassels for
> Kusudamas, I finally found it.  The only problem was that I had to buy it by
> the reel.  So if there is anyone out there who would like to buy some from me
> please drop me an E-mail note.
>
> Thanks,
> Gordon
>

I use embroidery floss (I think that is what it's called). Almost all craft
stores have it, it comes in *tons* of colors (some even mixtures of colors),
and it is relatively cheap.

Michael

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Michael Adcock (a.k.a. Blackadder)
adcock@menudo.uh.edu





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:12:10 -0300
From: kkinney@med.unc.edu (Kevin Kinney)
Subject: Re: useful origami

Regarding Jennifer's story of the "origami pot":

We had a similarly useful origami experience when I had just started
origami, a few years back in grad school.  We needed to embed large pieces
of tissue in paraffin blocks, and rather than purchase overpriced molds,
we decided to make paper (cardboard) boxes as molds.  Back then, even the
box was no small challenge (no diagrams)

Kevin Kinney
kkinney@med.unc.edu

(Just *finally* got my copy of the new Montroll Mythical creatures.  Very
nice, but why hasn't anyone mentioned that in addition to all the nifty
monsters and the zodiac critters, he includes patterns for the four card
suits:  heart, club, spade, diamond.  These are quite neat, and easy
besides.  Now I've got to think of a card trick to use these as the
climax...)





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:17:29 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: useful origami

Jennifer,

There are a number of basic origami square and rectangular
boxes/dishes that have all the sides turned up, so than they
are in fact water tight. Most of the traditional boxes or
containers found in all the standard works fill the bill,
and some have "handles", so would be particularly suitable.
Look for the traditional "measuring box", "charcoal burner"
etc.

I've even seen one of these adapted as a "solar oven" at an
Earth/Environmental Fair a couple of years ago, though I can't
remember the technical details; they could probably be turned up
on the Web somewhere...

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:31:38 -0300
From: Caslegona@aol.com
Subject: Re: 4 Beta Testers Needed

I have access and time next week to try out the program. I have a Power MAc.
I am a teacher/6th grade and teach origami/geometry.

Cyrene Slegona
Cornish Elementary School
Cornish, ME





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:44:48 -0300
From: Allen Parry <parry@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: useful origami

On Tue, 9 Apr 1996, Jennifer Campbell wrote:

> Now this is the ultimate in "origami foil". The pot is really just a simple
> origami box, and a good one to teach to beginners (though I couldn't tell
> you "which one" it is). The scout leader was going to teach it first with
> paper, then foil, then the ultimate challenge: a large-size model made from
> multiple layers of heavy-duty foil. The "pot" was going to be used to boil
> water at their next campfire!
>
You know, when I was a teenager, out camping, I saw a neat little trick.
Someone boilded water in a paper cup in a campfire.  The water in the cup
kept the temperature of the paper cool enough so it didn't burn.  Perhaps
his pot need not be made of foil.

Allen Parry   parry@eskimo.com





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 18:21:05 -0300
From: JovianSoft@aol.com
Subject: Re: useful origami

egg in a paper cup (alas a "Sweetheart" cup, not an origami cup). The boiling
temperature of water is 212 degrees F. Paper burns at 451 degrees F. No
contest.





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:28:05 -0300
From: Gordon Crane <gordonc@mnsinc.com>
Subject: Re: Tassels for Kusudama

Thanks Michael for your suggestion.  We have tried the floss and ribbon, but
we prefer tassels made from chainette, like on graduation caps.  Now that we
have brought our current supply of material, we thought we would see if
anyone else needs some.





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 22:59:20 -0300
From: PenneyA@aol.com
Subject: Re: What is a flasher - not Brill!

Hi, the only info I have on it is pretty much what has been said on this
listing.  It is a "hyper-action" model designed jointly by Chris Palmer and
Jeremy Shafer and is based on Kawasaki's iso-area twist folding in the book
"Origami for the Connoisseur".  I do have a copy of the instructions which
were impossible for me to figure out alone.  I had a member of or Origami
Club here in Ann Arbor show me how to do it or I would never have made one.
 If you are interested in the diagram let me know.
                                             Penney





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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 23:08:17 -0300
From: knuffke@sirius.com (Charles Knuffke)
Subject: Re: Updated Origami Supplies List

At 10:59 AM 4/9/96, Brett is rumored to have typed:

> Hello,
>
>         I have an Origami USA supplies list dated October 1995, is there a
> newer one ?
>
>         I'm curious if OUSA has Kawahatas, Dinosaur Origami 2 listed.  If
> it's available, could someone give me the order number.  I would like to
> order both volumes at the same time.
>
> Brett
> BrettAndJill@OIA.Net

The latest OrigamiUSA list I received is dated February, 1996. However,
Dinosaur Origami 2 is not listed (I believe this book is actually named
"Origami Fantasy", but that isn't listed yet either).

Sorry!

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