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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:10:28 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Burning Origami.

>>>>
I showed it to a
friend of mine who is a prosecuting attorney...but in the process he warned
me that shinking [sic] dollars was illegal.
<<<<

I think your friend was pulling your leg. The only thing that's illegal about
"altering" money is altering it to look like a *different* denomination
(e.g., adding extra zeros to the numerals, etc.). If distorting currency was
actually a crime, then the country's prisons would be full of six-year-olds
carnival-goers caught in the act of stamping pennies into "I Visited The
Winchester Mystery House!" medallions. Squashing, ripping, cutting, folding
into stars of David, and even "shinking" are all perfectly okay with dear old
Uncle Sam. Just don't try to pass it off as something it's not!

Robert





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:49:11 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI-L digest 291

Bren.....I am now working with someone and we are developing a video tape for
sale based on my T.V. Show.  It will be called Origami Favorites and will be
in production by the end of April.  How can I advertise this with and can you
give me the information I need.  Dorigami.  Please answer by E-Mail





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:48:05 -0400
From: CM317@aol.com
Subject: Origami Puzzles

   Has anybody ever made a puzzle out of origami?  I was wondering, because
one would think that it would be very difficult, having to fold each piece
top fit the other one, and it would also be very time consuming.
    Has anyone ever thought of making one, ar has succesfully(sp?) completed
an origami puzzle.

Reply to the list, for I'm sure others would be interested in the replies.

PS- I will be going to Kentucky today to visit relatives, and I will be
lugging my origami books with me, so I don't get bored.

--Chris (cm317@aol.com) Miller





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:53:20 -0400
From: jan_polish@colpal.com
Subject: Re[2]: Burning Origami.

     Interesting point ... but apparently in Japan there is a stronger
     legal or moral restriction on altering money. When we visited
     Yoshizawa in Dec of 1994, he showed us some incredible money folds he
     had created from various Japanese and foreign bills. He would not
     allow us to photograph him with them, although he had no such
     restrictions on our photography of his other models. We gathered that
     folding money was somehow illicit. Does anyone know more details?

     Jan Polish (jan_polish@colpal.com)

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re: Burning Origami.
Author:  origami-l@nstn.ca at internet
Date:    4/3/96 11:27 AM

>>>>
I showed it to a
friend of mine who is a prosecuting attorney...but in the process he warned
me that shinking [sic] dollars was illegal.
<<<<

I think your friend was pulling your leg. The only thing that's illegal about
"altering" money is altering it to look like a *different* denomination
(e.g., adding extra zeros to the numerals, etc.). If distorting currency was
actually a crime, then the country's prisons would be full of six-year-olds
carnival-goers caught in the act of stamping pennies into "I Visited The
Winchester Mystery House!" medallions. Squashing, ripping, cutting, folding
into stars of David, and even "shinking" are all perfectly okay with dear old
Uncle Sam. Just don't try to pass it off as something it's not!

Robert





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:15:17 -0400
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Burning Origami.

>I think your friend was pulling your leg. The only thing that's illegal about
>"altering" money is altering it to look like a *different* denomination
>(e.g., adding extra zeros to the numerals, etc.). If distorting currency was
>actually a crime, then the country's prisons would be full of six-year-olds
>carnival-goers caught in the act of stamping pennies into "I Visited The
>Winchester Mystery House!" medallions. Squashing, ripping, cutting, folding
>into stars of David, and even "shinking" are all perfectly okay with dear old
>Uncle Sam. Just don't try to pass it off as something it's not!

        I have to agree with this -- as further evidence, note that several
gift catalogs (like Bruce Bolind) offer at Christmas that you can get
dollar bills minted with Santa Claus' face in place of George Washington's
-- and it's _still_ perfectly legal tender (you can even spend it)!

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

      \\             _^
      \\\         __/   >     "...having...seen those Grounds, out
       \ \\     _/       >    of which are digg'd up _shells_, and
   /    \ \\  _/         >    such like other things cast out by the
 _//_----\ \-/          >     Sea, and that everywhere we might es-
/   ( )    o           >      timate the number of times...the Sea
v--_                 >        had troubled here and there..."
    )     \ \   \_ >
^--/       \\  /                         - Nicolaus Steno, 1671





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:22:41 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: pyrogami?

 Would you call one who burns Origami a Pyrogamiac?

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:23:36 -0400
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

>   Has anybody ever made a puzzle out of origami?  I was wondering, because
>one would think that it would be very difficult, having to fold each piece
>top fit the other one, and it would also be very time consuming.
>    Has anyone ever thought of making one, ar has succesfully(sp?) completed
>an origami puzzle.
>
>Reply to the list, for I'm sure others would be interested in the replies.

        Tony O'Hare has one in his BOS booklet (#19, I think).  It's not a
_real_ puzzle, in that all the pieces are identical; there are no end
pieces or side pieces which would bound the thing.  It also lacks a picture
on it -- now _that_ would be something:  an origami puzzle that, when
assembled, actually made a coherent picture or design!  8-)

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

      \\             _^
      \\\         __/   >     "...having...seen those Grounds, out
       \ \\     _/       >    of which are digg'd up _shells_, and
   /    \ \\  _/         >    such like other things cast out by the
 _//_----\ \-/          >     Sea, and that everywhere we might es-
/   ( )    o           >      timate the number of times...the Sea
v--_                 >        had troubled here and there..."
    )     \ \   \_ >
^--/       \\  /                         - Nicolaus Steno, 1671





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:24:51 -0400
From: Jeanine Meyer <MEYER@pacevm.dac.pace.edu>
Subject: 3-D Geometric Origami Modular Polyhedra Book

I have just gotten this book by Rona Gurkewitz and Bennett Arnstein,
Dover, ISBN 0-486-28863-3, $6.95 in USA, and it is great.

It is mainly original designs by the authors.  The directions
appear clear and it seems to provide pointers so you can understand
what is required to construct the models.





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:40:01 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

There are a number of puzzles in "The New Origami" by the Biddles. Namely a
soma cube, a tangram, a pyramid (Didier Boursin), and an "Inside-Outside
Box" by Thoki Yenn. Plus there is a "cluster puzzle" (Richard Ford) in Eric
Kenneway's "Complete Origami".

Kenneway also mentions that Anthony O'Hare has "succeeded in making origami
jigsaw puzzle pieces which lock together." Now that sounds pretty
interesting....Anyone know if this was ever diagrammed somewhere?

Probably just the tip of the iceburg here on puzzles....

pat slider.

>   Has anybody ever made a puzzle out of origami?  I was wondering, because
>one would think that it would be very difficult, having to fold each piece
>top fit the other one, and it would also be very time consuming.
>    Has anyone ever thought of making one, ar has succesfully(sp?) completed
>an origami puzzle.
>
>Reply to the list, for I'm sure others would be interested in the replies.
>
>PS- I will be going to Kentucky today to visit relatives, and I will be
>lugging my origami books with me, so I don't get bored.
>
>--Chris (cm317@aol.com) Miller





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:50:20 -0400
From: Iron Will Dawes <wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: origami puzzles

  This depends on your definition of puzzle. The closest thing I've
seen to a jigsaw-type puzzle would be the origami tangram found in one
of Steve and Megumi Biddle's books (I can't remember which).
  As for other "puzzles", Honda Isao's "World of Origami" contained
several very interesting designs with different pictures on each face.
The model was such that one arrangement yielded a specific picture,
while a different folding sequence would depict something different.
The one I remember was a little girl; one completed folding sequence
showed her holding a balloon; a quick rearrangement showed her
skipping, and so forth.
                              -Will(wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu)





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 15:23:46 -0400
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: Re: pyrogami?

     It's by far easier to pronounce than "pyrorigami"!

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: pyrogami?
Author:  origami-l@nstn.ca at Internet
Date:    4/3/96 9:26 AM

 Would you call one who burns Origami a Pyrogamiac?

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 15:36:43 -0400
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: Re: origami puzzles

     Will, I appreciate your attribution of "World of Origami" to Honda
     Isao, rather than to "Isao Honda."  You show a sensitivity to polite
     forms of address, however indirectly!  Honda-san (and Fuse Tomoko-san,
     amongst others) would notice and appreciate your politeness, too.

     As far as origami puzzles go, I can do an inadvertent "Mixed-Up
     Rubik's Cube" model in no time!  However, I'm sorry to report that I
     have NO gift for diagramming.  ;-P

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: origami puzzles
Author:  origami-l@nstn.ca at Internet
Date:    4/3/96 9:53 AM

  This depends on your definition of puzzle. The closest thing I've
seen to a jigsaw-type puzzle would be the origami tangram found in one
of Steve and Megumi Biddle's books (I can't remember which).
  As for other "puzzles", Honda Isao's "World of Origami" contained
several very interesting designs with different pictures on each face.
The model was such that one arrangement yielded a specific picture,
while a different folding sequence would depict something different.
The one I remember was a little girl; one completed folding sequence
showed her holding a balloon; a quick rearrangement showed her
skipping, and so forth.
     -Will(wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu)





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 16:34:56 -0400
From: Barry <100436.1731@compuserve.com>
Subject: Imagiro.

Forgive my ignorance...

Are there any origami computer programs around? I'm not talking about for
drawing diagrams, I mean actually being able to use a mouse to fold a piece of
'virtual paper' into a model?

Seems to me it'd be pretty tricky and more of a maths problem than anything.
Although the user interface would be a nightmare as well... aargh!

Could you then encode all models into numbers? Come up with models which are
unfoldable? Define the set of all foldable models? Maybe someone has already
proved you can fold anything? (Given an infinitely large and thin sheet of paper
:-) )

Sorry for the meta-origami talk. Maybe I'm being incredibly naive! Back to
reality...

I'm in London and hardly ever see bookshops stocking more than the most basic of
books on origami. Does anyone know of some good sources? How about mail order?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Barry Costas.





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 16:44:03 -0400
From: Lori Klicka <lori@riso.fullerton.edu>
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

CM317@aol.com wrote:
>
>    Has anybody ever made a puzzle out of origami?  I was wondering, because
> one would think that it would be very difficult, having to fold each piece
> top fit the other one, and it would also be very time consuming.
>     Has anyone ever thought of making one, ar has succesfully(sp?) completed
> an origami puzzle.
>
> Reply to the list, for I'm sure others would be interested in the replies.
>
> PS- I will be going to Kentucky today to visit relatives, and I will be
> lugging my origami books with me, so I don't get bored.
>
> --Chris (cm317@aol.com) Miller

Hi, Chris.

Yes, I have been taught a way to make a multi-colored "box" by
folding a total of 12 pieces separately (in different colors)
and then they all fit together into a hollow box.  I guess it is
sort of like a puzzle for someone who doesn't already know how
to put it together.  Is that what you were looking for?

--Lori (lori@riso.fullerton.edu)





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 16:55:35 -0400
From: anneakin@reach.com (Anne Eakin -- Third Millennium - New York)
Subject: Origami Puzzles

I just saw some 3-D puzzle models in _The New Origami_. It was a
very clever book on the whole, with story models, puzzle models
and action models. The 3-D puzzle was modular.

Anyone have the full citation?  I was just browsing and didn't jot
it down.

Anne Eakin

*======== Regarding ========*

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 96 12:19:15 EST

   Has anybody ever made a puzzle out of origami?  I was wondering, because
one would think that it would be very difficult, having to fold each piece
top fit the other one, and it would also be very time consuming.
    Has anyone ever thought of making one, ar has succesfully(sp?) completed
an origami puzzle.





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:00:48 -0400
From: sarah@abel.math.umu.se (Sarah Goodall)
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

I seem to have a vague recollection of some puzzles done by Pete Ford
about 10 -15 years ago.  I think they were like the wooden puzzles you
have which consist of various pieces which fit together to form some
3D solid.  Maybe someone else's memory serves them better?

Sarah

sarah@abel.math.umu.se





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:08:30 -0400
From: "NIGEL POTTLE, TEACHER-LIBRARIAN, WOODLANDS ELEM. SCHOOL"@Owl.nstn.ca
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

One of Steve and Megumi Biddle's books has origami puzzles which are units
folded separately which must then be assembled to make a cube. Actually, I
think they have several puzzles in the book. I have not done any of them, but
must someday. They would be fun to have at school to challenge the students.

I am sure there are other puzzles out there. I don't remember who, but one of
us listers published  a linked cube puzzle using post it notes, which I en-
joyed making. (Thank you whoever you were - (Jeannine, V'Ann, Valerie Vann?)).

Nigel Pottle
npottle@cbe.ab.ca





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:18:36 -0400
From: "NIGEL POTTLE, TEACHER-LIBRARIAN, WOODLANDS ELEM. SCHOOL"@Owl.nstn.ca
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Burning Origami.

Has anyone thought of using the paper (as opposed to rag) money which the
Chinese use at Chinese New Year? I think they may also be used as offerings.
The money is usually in a red envelope. I have never looked closely so do not
know what size the money is. It could certainly be folded and burned since it
is not in fact legal tender.

Nigel Pottle
npottle@cbe.ab.ca





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:23:59 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

>I seem to have a vague recollection of some puzzles done by Pete Ford
>about 10 -15 years ago.  I think they were like the wooden puzzles you
>have which consist of various pieces which fit together to form some
>3D solid.  Maybe someone else's memory serves them better?

Well, one of Pete Ford's puzzles at least is diagrammed in Kenneway's
"Complete Origami". He calls it a "cluster" puzzle. And, yes, it does look
like one of those multiple-piece wooden puzzles.

                **************************************

Here's the complete citation for "The New Origami":

The New Origami
Steve and Megumi Biddle
St. Martin's Press
ISBN 0-312-08037-9

And here is the Kenneway book:

Complete Origami
Eric Kenneway
St. Martin's Press
ISBN 0-312-00898-8

These were originally published by Ebury Press.

                        **************************

Actually, looking at these side-by-side, and seeing that they have the same
publisher, I can't help but wonder if Megumi Biddle did the illustrations
for "Complete Origami" too. If so, she didn't get any credit.

And I have been wondering if the Biddles worked with Kenneway
somehow....Their books seem to share a certain taste in the variety and
kinds of models selected.

pat slider.





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:31:38 -0400
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

>I just saw some 3-D puzzle models in _The New Origami_. It was a
>very clever book on the whole, with story models, puzzle models
>and action models. The 3-D puzzle was modular.
>
>Anyone have the full citation?  I was just browsing and didn't jot
>it down.

        Not this one -- sorry!  (I'm not a big fan of modulars, personally,
and don't keep tabs on them much.)  However, in addition to Tony O'Hare's
true "puzzle," which is 2D, Eric Kenneway's _Complete Origami_ had
instructions for a 3D "puzzle," in which several long, rectangular, and
notched pieces fit together into a pseudoneomodernistic sculpture, sort of
like the ones made of wood you occasionally find decorating coffee tables
and mantles in finer homes near you...  ;-)

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

      \\             _^
      \\\         __/   >     "...having...seen those Grounds, out
       \ \\     _/       >    of which are digg'd up _shells_, and
   /    \ \\  _/         >    such like other things cast out by the
 _//_----\ \-/          >     Sea, and that everywhere we might es-
/   ( )    o           >      timate the number of times...the Sea
v--_                 >        had troubled here and there..."
    )     \ \   \_ >
^--/       \\  /                         - Nicolaus Steno, 1671





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Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 17:39:29 -0400
From: coyote1@azstarnet.COM (Ken Tesa)
Subject: Re: RE: What is a flasher - not Brill!

>The "flasher" is an incredible model that was taught last year at the
>convention. Directions were in the B.A.R.F. newsletter of last year. Jeremy
>Schaffer was the origniator. Don't make fun of it until you see how fantastic
>a model it is. He chose the title to get people's attention, the piece is
>great.
>
>What is _B.A.R.F._?   And how may one get a copy of the issue with  Jeremy's
"flasher"?

Mary Ellen at  <coyote1@azstarnet.com>





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:45:03 -0400
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

Also check out Origami Plain and Simple by Robert Neale, there is a diagram
for a Fish that can be Mirrored and "Tesselated" (sp?) tessalation differs
from a puzzle in the fact that all the pieces are the same.

What you could do is make several of Neale's Fish, Tesselate them in an
interesting and tricky way and then paint, print, draw, etc a picture over
the whole tesselation.  Then when the picture is complete take it apart, and
let someone else assemble it.  It would be similar to a jigsaw puzzle that
has pieces all of the same shape.

Any of this make sense ?

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:54:44 -0400
From: Caslegona@aol.com
Subject: Re: RE: What is a flasher - not Brill!

Bay Area Rapid Folders, c/o Jeremy Shafer, 1744 Virginia St., Berkely, CA
94703

Good luck.





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 20:22:21 -0400
From: Patrick Antouly <100332.1710@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: RE: What is a flasher - not Brill!

Could someone tell me where I can find the diagrams for this model ?

Thanks
        Patrick





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 20:29:10 -0400
From: Patrick Antouly <100332.1710@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: origami chess set books

Why not _fold_ a chiken and burn it...





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 21:52:53 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: computer programs, transfinites and proofs

> Are there any origami computer programs around? I'm not talking about for
> drawing diagrams, I mean actually being able to use a mouse to fold a piece
of
> 'virtual paper' into a model?

Several years ago, Jack Fastag and I each wrote origami "manipulator"
programs (his was PC, mine was Mac) that let you manipulate a piece of paper
on-screen, perform valley folds, mountain folds, and the like, by clicking on
points on the paper and dragging them to new locations. I never actually saw
his running, just the code. Mine worked, after a fashion, but you were
limited to just valley and mountain folds -- no reverse folds, rabbit ears,
petal folds, let alone closed-double-un-sinks! So it was more of an exercise
in programming than a useful tool. Fun to write, though.

> Could you then encode all models into numbers? Define the set of
> all foldable models?

If a model can be characterized by its creases plus some information on
stacking order; then the set of all possible collections of creases can be
put into correspondence with the set of all possible subsets of points in the
plane; and since the set of all possible points in the plane is C
(uncountable infinity), the set of all possible *subsets* of this set is
whatever you call the next transfinite, i.e., it's really, really, big.

> Maybe someone has already
> proved you can fold anything? (Given an infinitely large and thin
> sheet of paper...

Maybe not ANYTHING, but since you asked, I will be presenting a constructive
proof (i.e., an algorithm for doing so) that you can fold a shape with any
number and configuration of points at the 12th ACM Symposium on Computational
Geometry in Philadelphia next month, if anyone's interested.

Robert Lang
rjlang@aol.com





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:32:37 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re: RE: What is a flasher - not Brill!

I have on question - I have Jeremy's diagrams for his flasher, but I can't get
mine to close as tightly as the drawing seem to indicate that it SHOULD close -
any suggestions?

Dee

PS I have diagrammed a Klingon Bird of Prey designed by a guy in my group if
anyone is interested, send me a SASE to Dee Lynch, 1350 E. Easter Ave.,
     Littleton, CO 80122 and let me know why you are sending me said SASE...

D





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:45:07 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re:  Origami Puzzles

there is a really cool origami puzzle in Kenneway's "Complete Origami" (I have
never actually been able to FOLD said puzzle however... ) and Valerie Vann
had a great puzzle on the list a while back (I hope it was Valerie - short term
memory is going as fast as the long term these days!!)





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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:54:37 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

There used to be some tessalated puzzles called "Schmuzzles" (I think that was
the spelling) they used an Esher-esque lizard as the shape though) It would
be interesting to do a jigsaw puzzle that way though.... hmmmm...

dee





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 00:02:10 -0400
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: computer programs, transfinites and proofs

+Maybe not ANYTHING, but since you asked, I will be presenting a constructive
+proof (i.e., an algorithm for doing so) that you can fold a shape with any
+number and configuration of points at the 12th ACM Symposium on Computational
+Geometry in Philadelphia next month, if anyone's interested.
+
+Robert Lang

Will that presentation have an accompanying paper (for the proceedings, or
whatever else)?  If so, might you be amenable to distributing copies?  Paper
or electronic.

-Doug





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 00:36:37 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

Nigel Pottle mentioned that he enjoyed my Puzzle Ring Cube
model I posted to the list around Thanksgiving (USA: November).
Thanx Nigel, glad you liked it.

FYI, everybody: Postscript diagrams of the puzzle, including
a glueless version not included in the original post (for the
purists) is available on my Web site:

http://users.aol.com/valerivann/index.html

The diagrams are ftp/downloadable, that is not graphically
viewable on the web site. You need a postscript printer,
translator, or something like the ghostscript program to
print them out.

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com
valerivann@aol.com





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 00:39:47 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Origami is natural...

My guess in that the 'nature' store carries books that
have things like North American Animals in the subject/title;
you often find coloring books, story books etc that have to
do with animals, other cultures, plants, flowers, etc in
such stores. So why not origami animals?

--valerie





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 01:02:59 -0400
From: David Work <davwork@sosinc.net>
Subject: Re: Burning Origami.

At 01:16 PM 4/3/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>I think your friend was pulling your leg. The only thing that's illegal about
>>"altering" money is altering it to look like a *different* denomination
>>(e.g., adding extra zeros to the numerals, etc.). If distorting currency was
>>actually a crime, then the country's prisons would be full of six-year-olds
>>carnival-goers caught in the act of stamping pennies into "I Visited The
>>Winchester Mystery House!" medallions. Squashing, ripping, cutting, folding
>>into stars of David, and even "shinking" are all perfectly okay with dear old
>>Uncle Sam. Just don't try to pass it off as something it's not!
>
>        I have to agree with this -- as further evidence, note that several
>gift catalogs (like Bruce Bolind) offer at Christmas that you can get
>dollar bills minted with Santa Claus' face in place of George Washington's
>-- and it's _still_ perfectly legal tender (you can even spend it)!
>
>
        I received a Santa dollar this past Christmas.  The Santa face was
on another piece of paper then this was glued? on the bill.

David Work
davwork@sosinc.net





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 01:22:20 -0400
From: Namir Gharaibeh <U50879@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

On Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:55:31 -0400 BOB T. LYNCH said:
>There used to be some tessalated puzzles called "Schmuzzles" (I think that was
>the spelling) they used an Esher-esque lizard as the shape though) It would
>be interesting to do a jigsaw puzzle that way though.... hmmmm...
>
>dee

     Where would one find this "Schmuzzles"?

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Me and the world, see, we got  :            Namir Gharaibeh           |
|     this understanding.        :     a.k.a.  U50879@uicvm.uic.edu     |
|                                :   University of Illinois at Chicago  |





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 01:28:02 -0400
From: Allen Parry <parry@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Burning Origami.

On Wed, 3 Apr 1996 Rjlang@aol.com wrote:

> >>>>
> I showed it to a
> friend of mine who is a prosecuting attorney...but in the process he warned
> me that shinking [sic] dollars was illegal.
> <<<<
>
> I think your friend was pulling your leg. The only thing that's illegal about
> "altering" money is altering it to look like a *different* denomination
> (e.g., adding extra zeros to the numerals, etc.). If distorting currency was
> actually a crime, then the country's prisons would be full of six-year-olds
> carnival-goers caught in the act of stamping pennies into "I Visited The
> Winchester Mystery House!" medallions. Squashing, ripping, cutting, folding
> into stars of David, and even "shinking" are all perfectly okay with dear old
> Uncle Sam. Just don't try to pass it off as something it's not!
>
> Robert
>
>
You know I asked him about that.  I too have seen the penny presses.
It seems that pennies have been somehow declassified as legal tender.
He said, that by law, one need not accept pennies as payment, whereas any
other currency one must accept.  I don't know, he may have been pulling
my leg, but I'll give him a call and . . . I just gave him a call and he
reaffirmed the story.

Allen Parry





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 02:57:27 -0400
From: chapbell@crocker.com (Philip Craig Chapman-Bell)
Subject: Hell money (was Re: Burning Origami)

Dear All and Sundry,
        I bought some Hell money some years back; the exchange rates were
surprisingly good.  The money is burned (I believe) for ceremonial purposes
in China, and recalls a time when real paper money was burned in an effort
to build up a savings account on the other side.  (There's an amusing
episode in Wu Chen Eng's novel, _Monkey_ where a king who ends up in the
afterlife through a clerical error borrows from someone's account to pay for
his return ticket to earth, and then seeks out his unwitting creditor to
settle accounts. The parallels to "laying up treasure in Heaven" are striking.)
        However, modern Hell money is of the cheapest sort of newsprint and
is not really all that good for folding.  I made an elephant from it, but I
wouldn't attempt, say, the crab in _Folding the Universe_.   It is, after
all, minted to be burned.  I recently received a catalog from Archie McPhee
(they're on the Web) which has Hell money which looks to be of a better
kind.  Canadians may wish to check this out, as they seem to be returning to
a very hard currency these days.
        Perhaps some enterprising soul (or OrigamiUSA) should take to the
minting of money meant to be folded.  Perhaps from the recycled money paper
Crane puts out.  A Thousand Crane Bill has a ring to it, albeit a slightly
materialistic one.
        Yours, <>Philip<>

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> "I must own I am much
<> Philip Craig Chapman-Bell  <>  in the dark about light."
<> Northampton, Massachusetts <>    -B. Franklin
<> chapbell@crocker.com       <>





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 06:05:44 -0400
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

I believe that Peter Ford (who created the puzzle in Complete Origami)
is preparing a booklet of his origami puzzles. Peter has created quite
a range of 3D puzzles. I wonder when the BOS will be able to put this
material in print ....??

Richard Kennedy
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 06:52:07 -0400
From: hazay@ibm.net (Alon Hazay)
Subject: Ships models

Hi everybody!

I'm looking for interesting ship models.
Does anyone have/know where I can get these kind of models?
Alon Hazay
Israel
Email: hazay@ibm.net

*** THE SKY IS THE LIMIT ***





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 09:33:04 -0400
From: ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr (ciarlet mathieu)
Subject: locomotive model

Hi y'all,
If I don't mistake, I've read somewhere that there exists a locomotive model.
     Does anyone
know where I could find it, or anyone kind enough to xerox it and send it to
     me. My fatheris mad about steam locomotives, and I'd like to make him a
     little gift.

Bye.
Mathieu Ciarlet         ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr
http://www.dauphine.fr/~ciarlma6/
"May the fold be with you"





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:14:04 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: locomotive model

As I recall, there is a locomotive model in Jackson's book.   I just
happened to have written a few notes about it in French for another
purpose.

     L'encyclopedie du papier, par Paul Jackson, traduit de l'anglais
     par Helene Tordo (Editions fleurus, 11, rue Duguay-Trouin 75006
     Paris, 1993), ISBN 2.215.01946.8 <p> Ce beau livre traite le
     sujet de comment faire l'art serieux avec base de papier.  Parmi
     les techniques discutees est l'origami.  Je peux fortement
     recommender la deuxieme parti du livre pour les belles photos
     d'objets d'art fait en papier, dont quelques uns sont du vrai
     origami .

What is the English title?  The Encyclopedia of Paper? by Paul Jackson.
It is a very nice book about serious art work with paper in which one
of the techniques discussed is origami.  I really like the second "half"
of the book where there are many beautiful photos of art object made of
paper some of which are origami.

                                       ... Mark

P.S. In case any of you are wondering, I just stumbled upon the French
     edition in the public library in Montreal.  I don't think I've ever
     seen the original English edition.

>
> Hi y'all,
> If I don't mistake, I've read somewhere that there exists a locomotive model.
     Does anyone
> know where I could find it, or anyone kind enough to xerox it and send it to
     me. My fatheris mad about steam locomotives, and I'd like to make him a
     little gift.
>
> Bye.
> Mathieu Ciarlet             ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr
> http://www.dauphine.fr/~ciarlma6/
> "May the fold be with you"
>

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:44:46 -0400
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Re: Ships models

At 05:29 AM 4/4/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Hi everybody!
>
>I'm looking for interesting ship models.
>Does anyone have/know where I can get these kind of models?
>Alon Hazay
>Israel
>Email: hazay@ibm.net
>
>*** THE SKY IS THE LIMIT ***

Patricia Crawford made a three masted ship, it's in one of the harder to
find Harbin books.  I think the title is Origami: step by step.  Help me
here anybody.

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 10:53:48 -0400
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Hell money (was Re: Burning Origami)

Philip Craig Chapman-Bell wrote:

+        Perhaps some enterprising soul (or OrigamiUSA) should take to the
+minting of money meant to be folded.  Perhaps from the recycled money paper
+Crane puts out.  A Thousand Crane Bill has a ring to it, albeit a slightly
+materialistic one.

In my last utility bill "newsletter" there was a blurb at the reintroduction
of the $100 bill into American currency.  But the bill is going to be
different from before.  One of the differences I recall being mentioned is
that the portrait will not be centered.  Also according to the newsletter,
other denominations will undergo similar anti-counterfeiting "adjustments".

I guess this opens up a whole venue for American money folders, though we'll
have to note on the diagrams which version of the bill it uses. ;-)

Personally I hope they switch to a different paper and allow the current paper
to be sold unprinted.  It is so strong for its thickness.

-Doug





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:25:38 -0400
From: Iron Will Dawes <wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: locomotives

  Giunta's "Divertiti con l'Origami" (that spelling is probably
incorrect) has an excellent, although simple, locomotive model. The
book is in Italian, but it is very well diagrammed.
  The book also contains several other unique models, such as a
rocking horse, a Christmas tree with star and Adolf Hitler's face
(personally, I prefer to modify the hairstyle and call it Charlie
Chaplin).
                              -Will(wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu)





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:31:40 -0400
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Origami Puzzles

Richard Kennedy wrote:

In message <9604041002.AA08393@isdux1.bham.ac.uk> you wrote:
+I believe that Peter Ford (who created the puzzle in Complete Origami)
+is preparing a booklet of his origami puzzles. Peter has created quite
+a range of 3D puzzles. I wonder when the BOS will be able to put this
+material in print ....??

To any and all members of BOS and all and any who _actually_ know the answers:

Is the dearth of BOS booklets due to shortage of funds or volunteers or ????

If it is a funds shortage, I'd like to suggest that consideration be given
to using the Internet to help raise funds.  The obvious thing that comes to
mind is to use the web, as a small brewery here in the US has been doing.
Not exactly the same structure, but it is a resource that I don't see being
tapped now.

If it is a problem of having to have too much stock on hand, or having to
print more copies than desired, then I urge in the STRONGEST possible way
that a publish-on-demand solution be considered.

I would like to suggest that a publish-on-demand option be considered
independent of stock on hand or minimum print run issues.  Once you publish-
on-demand you never have to print or store anything you aren't just about to
sell.  Publish-on-demand is often associated or "driven by" computer based
desk top publishing.  But it actually only requires high quality originals and
a reasonable duplication process, whether it be bits in a computer connected
to a good printer, or very crisp originals and a good copying machine.  I'm
sure that there are even other options.

I guess my underlying question is to the BOS board:  Despite all the apparent
demand that readers of origami-l see, and generate, does BOS _want_ to have
those materials available at all?

-Doug





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:42:46 -0400
From: Maumoy@aol.com
Subject: Origami Puzzles

Willy Haarsma of the Netherlands authored an Origami puzzel varia booklet
which was published by OSN in 1991.  Any suggestions from NL correspondents
about how to get copies?  BOS sold it in 91-92.  Included are diagrams for
origami versions of SOMA, circus tent, octopus, licorice drop and others.
 The text is in Dutch:  there is a supplemental English translation.  Units
by Kasahara, Fuse, Fujimoto, Sonobe, traditional, and Haarsma.

I have a copy of Robert Neale's circus tent puzzle instructions.  I don't
remember where I bought it - possibly from BOS.

There's a fish tessellation  by someone in Austria, rather Escheresque.  I
believe it's by Peterpaul Forcher.

Marcia





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:48:24 -0400
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Subject: Re: Ships models

At 10:47 AM 4/4/96 -0400, you wrote:

>
>Patricia Crawford made a three masted ship, it's in one of the harder to
>find Harbin books.  I think the title is Origami: step by step.  Help me
>here anybody.
>
>Brett
>BrettAndJill@OIA.Net
>

Nolan rediagramed this model in his book: Creating origami.

|-------------------------------------------------------\
|  _  Sy Chen <chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov>    |\
| |_| Folding Page http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm --\





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:54:44 -0400
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Imagiro.

>
> I'm in London and hardly ever see bookshops stocking more than the most basic
     of
> books on origami. Does anyone know of some good sources? How about mail order?
>

London bookshops. There are 2 I know of, and a 3rd I plan to check next week.
They are:

Japan Centre Bookshop
- on the South side of Picadilly, Picadilly circus end.

Nippon Books
- St. Pauls Churchyard, near St.Pauls tube station

Bookends
- Exhibition Road, near South Kensington tube station.

I'm sorry I don't have any more information with me at the moment.

Other non-specialist bookshops will carry a few origami books, eg Hatchards
in Picadilly, Foyles in Charing Cross Road, and don't forget to check the
remainder bookshops - I've picked up books by Kenneway, Jackson and
Mulatinho in recent months.

I'll probably be in London on Wednesday to view the Cezanne collection at the
Tate. Drop me an email if you would like to meet. I'll probably check my
email tomorrow, before heading off for an Easter break.

Bye

Richard Kennedy
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)

PS -for Terry Hall - I know, you're still waiting for addresses and 'phone
numbers of shops in the UK. I just haven't found all the info + I'm hating
my new email system.

PPS Mailorder - BOS carry some harder to find items, and also publish a
selection of booklets. I have a copy of their pricelist and order form
somewhere, drop me your mail address, and I'll put a copy in the post. That
reminds me that there is a BOS group that meets once a month for folding and
origami related chatter. I think they meet at the Daiwa foundation, near
Regents Park. Again I could email you you further info in the near future,
or mail it with the BOS Supplies information.





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:57:17 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: computer programs, transfinites and proofs

> +proof (i.e., an algorithm for doing so) that you can fold a shape with any
> +number and configuration of points at the 12th ACM Symposium on
Computational
> +Geometry in Philadelphia next month, if anyone's interested.
> +
>
> Will that presentation have an accompanying paper (for the proceedings, or
> whatever else)?  If so, might you be amenable to distributing copies?
 Paper
> or electronic.

There is a proceedings and there will be a paper in the proceedings. I'll
check on whether I can post it to the archives (technically, the proceedings
are copyrighted by the ACM).

Robert





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:59:46 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Burning Origami.

[Regarding the legality of shinking money, Allen writes about his lawyer
friend...]
> . . . I just gave him a call and he reaffirmed the story [that it
> is illegal to shrink money].

Okay, maybe he's not pulling your leg -- maybe he's just mistaken.  There's
more altered money out there than just penny-presses; you've undoubtedly seen
jewelry made from old coins in which the backgrounds of the coins are cut
away leaving the lettering and image ("Richly Layered In Pure Gold"),
paperweights with crumpled dollars embedded in resin, etc. Not to mention
pseudo-origami advertising featuring cut-glued-and-folded dollars! I'm quite
sure the definition of what's acceptable is that you can do almost anything
you want to any U.S. currency as long as you don't try to pass it off as
currency after you've altered it; i.e., just don't try to spend your shrunken
(or "shunken"?) dollar.

> He said, that by law, one need not accept pennies as payment,
>  whereas any other currency one must accept.

I _think_ the law says that one need not accept pennies in amounts over some
set quantity (maybe 50?).

Robert





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:01:58 -0400
From: jan_polish@colpal.com
Subject: Re: origami puzzles

     One of Tomoko Fuse's new books seems to be appropriate to this topic.
     The Origami USA Origami Source is carrying it under the name "Boxes
     Within Boxes" and Tony Cheng taught models from the book at a recent
     Special Sessions under the name "Puzzle Boxes." Fuse has developed
     several box sets where multiple smaller ones (all in different shapes)
     fit together into the larger ones. Many of the individual boxes are
     from one piece of paper - all are interesting and satisfying by
     themselves or as components of the whole.

     Jan Polish (jan_polish@colpal.com)





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:04:42 -0400
From: "NIGEL POTTLE, TEACHER-LIBRARIAN, WOODLANDS ELEM. SCHOOL"@Owl.nstn.ca
Subject: Re: locomotive model

There is a wonderful steam locomotive in Paul Jackson's Encyclopedia of Origami
and Papercraft. This book is encyclopedic in coverage but not in model content,
however the steam engine is fully diagrammed. It has a rounded top, pistons
and a steam pipe at the front. (I just looked at it in my display). I really
like it. I made it in brown wrapping paper which because it softens on wear
actually had a nice finish.

The modelling is similar to the Bugatti in Jackson's Origami Step by Step
(which I also made). There are some tricky bits, the method for making the
wheels (which are octagonal) is quite neat.

Check it out. Its more like an industrial revolution steam engine than a
steam locomotive, but if your parent likes steam engines you are sure to
impress him.

Good luck.

Nigel Pottle
npottle@cbe.ab.ca





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:20:17 -0400
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Re: Burning Origami.

I used to work in the Banking industry, and I believe that mose of the
"shredded" products (pens, paper-weights) are made from currency out of
circulation or "mutilated".  At the bank the tellers were instructed to set
aside currency "mutilated" or past a certain date.  I do believe I heard
that defacing currency in circulation is a crime. dunno ?

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:23:00 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: computer programs, transfinites and proofs

   > Maybe someone has already
   > proved you can fold anything? (Given an infinitely large and thin
   > sheet of paper...

   Maybe not ANYTHING, but since you asked, I will be presenting a constructive
   proof (i.e., an algorithm for doing so) that you can fold a shape with any
   number and configuration of points at the 12th ACM Symposium on Computational
   Geometry in Philadelphia next month, if anyone's interested.

Robert, how can this be?  To construct the vertices of a regular 11-gon
requires an angle "quinquesector".

        -- jeannine mosely





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:29:57 -0400
From: Paul Roossin <roossin@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: shunken dollars

I have seen sh(r)unken dollars at a magic store, and since this has
come up here, I was wondering if anyone knows the procedure to create
them?  I seem to recall a shortly lived thread on sci.chem which in
passing mentioned that they are made by soaking a real bill in a conc.
ammonia solution.  (Off-hand, I don't see why that would work.)

Any clues?
Paul.
Paul Roossin          roossin@watson.ibm.com            914-784-6524





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 13:02:14 -0400
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: BOS Publications

At the last BOS convention the AGM was told that the Council were
working to put a new Pulications and Supplies organisation together.
I am not on the Council, so I cannot give any further information.
The need for improvement is recognised. I shall print your thoughts,
and send them to the BOS Chairman (David Brill).

Richard Kennedy
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 13:12:29 -0400
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Ships models

>
> Patricia Crawford made a three masted ship, it's in one of the harder to
> find Harbin books.  I think the title is Origami: step by step.  Help me
> here anybody.

This is correct. Also worth seeking out is the 3-masted ship by Martin
Wall in Eric Kenneway "Origami - Paper Folding for Fun", 1st. edition
(it was dropped from the 2nd. edition)

Do you want a sailing ship or a more modern vessel?

Richard K.
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 13:32:31 -0400
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: locomotive model

>
> As I recall, there is a locomotive model in Jackson's book.   I just
> happened to have written a few notes about it in French for another
> purpose.
>

The model is of Stephenson's rocket. It was created by Max Hulme. The
title of Jackson's book is the Encyclopedia of Origami and Papercraft.
(but I may have origami and papercraft the wrong way round). Diagrams
also appear in the BOS booklet of Max's work (presently unavailable).

I've also seen a Japanese book with an american railroad locomotive on
the cover. Title may have been 'Origami Transportation in the New Style',
new style meaning lots of pleating. Sorry, I didn't buy it, so I can't
provide more information.

> What is the English title?  The Encyclopedia of Paper? by Paul Jackson.
> >
> > Hi y'all,
> > If I don't mistake, I've read somewhere that there exists a locomotive
     model. Does anyone
> > know where I could find it, or anyone kind enough to xerox it and send it
     to me. My fatheris mad about steam locomotives, and I'd like to make him a
     little gift.
> >
> > Bye.
> > Mathieu Ciarlet         ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr
> > http://www.dauphine.fr/~ciarlma6/
> > "May the fold be with you"
> >
>

Richard Kennedy
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 13:34:00 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: locomotive model

>There is a wonderful steam locomotive in Paul Jackson's Encyclopedia of Origami
>and Papercraft. This book is encyclopedic in coverage but not in model content,
>however the steam engine is fully diagrammed. It has a rounded top, pistons
>and a steam pipe at the front. (I just looked at it in my display). I really
>like it. I made it in brown wrapping paper which because it softens on wear
>actually had a nice finish.
>

And I have been seeing the Encyclopedia of Origami and Papercraft getting
remaindered now....Hamilton is currently listing it at $9.95.  I think I
have also seen it in the remainder section at B. Dalton's or Waldens or
both?

I think I also saw Paul Jackson's Step-by-Step Origami book listed in the
latest Hamilton catalog too.

I always worry when I see these books get remaindered....does this mean
they are going out of print? But I see so many Paul Jackson titles
remaindered that I have to wonder if his publisher does it on purpose :->.
Perhaps this particular publisher still makes a small profit doing this.

pat slider.





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 13:50:50 -0400
From: FULLERSM@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu
Subject: Dragon Models

I have several books on origami, but I have only found one oriental
dragon model.  The rest are all european designs.  Would anyone out there
know where I can find any?  Or if anyone can email me the designs, or
knows web sites that have them, this would also be appreciated.

Thanks, bunches,
Scott Fuller
FullerSM@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:29:52 -0400
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Remaindered and out of print origami books (was: Re: locomotive model)

In message <v01530501ad89b3de04af@[205.139.78.73]>,
    pat slider wrote:
+I always worry when I see these books get remaindered....does this mean
+they are going out of print? But I see so many Paul Jackson titles
+remaindered that I have to wonder if his publisher does it on purpose :->.
+Perhaps this particular publisher still makes a small profit doing this.

I don't understand it either.  Best I can figure out it is a side effect of
the (semi)recent tax code changes on keeping inventory/stock.  Maybe
remaindering is an easy/legal way to devalue the books so that warehouses full
of them aren't such a tax burden.

And why, oh why, is Jackson's Classic Origami out of print in the US when it
is still in print in the UK (and probably elsewhere)?  It is one of my
all-time favorite books and has many great models!  Another mystery of
publishing is how Classic Origami becomes unavilable, then gets glommed onto
a book by Vivian Frank and the combo is then resold as "Make it With
Paper".  Then _that_ gets remainered and Classic Origami gets bundled with
two other books and sold under yet another title (I can't recall any of
those titles at the moment).

-Doug





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:29:18 -0400
From: Allen Parry <parry@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Burning Origami.

Yes, Its illegal to have money to burn!

I just called the Secret Service (the governing body) and this is what
they say:

  You can mutilate coins to your hearts content but . . .
 . . . it is illegal to make paper money "unsuitable for circulation".

  Folding, no problem.  Shrinking, problem.  Burning, problem.

What they also said is; they have better things to do than chasing dollar
bill mutilators unless it was for the purpose of fraud.  Personally, I'd
rather avoid the possibility of the Secret Service having a whim
and deciding they want to come after me.

Allen Parry





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:51:16 -0400
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: Legal Monetary Manipulation

     Allen Parry, thank you for a fun and informative thread!  I've been
     enjoying learning what we Americans may and may not do with what we
     consider "our" money.

     Everyone else (and Allen), if you're thinking about burning your
     folded (or unfolded) real American dollar bills, PLEASE just send them
     to me.  I will personally dispose of them in an environmentally
     conscientious manner, and the Secret Service won't even catch a whiff
     of smoke.  (And I'll have some FABULOUS new Origami books and paper, a
     student loan payment or two, my rent...)

     ;-P





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:00:38 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Fords puzzles

> I seem to have a vague recollection of some puzzles done by Pete Ford
> about 10 -15 years ago.  I think they were like the wooden puzzles you
> have which consist of various pieces which fit together to form some
> 3D solid.  Maybe someone else's memory serves them better?

He made a number of puzzles that are categorised as "burr" puzzles - they
are basically strips of wood that fit around each other to form a solid
final design. Some had notches cut out to aid locking. Over here you can buy
these in most decent "toy/puzzle" shops - some are hand made & of a very
high quality.

They presumably relate to the type of frame constructions that Tom Hull is
currently writing about. Sergei brought some extraordinary paper versions
from Russia last year, all the work of someone whose name escapes me (help
Sergei?)

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:07:16 -0400
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: Kansai Area Origami Supplies

     In about three weeks, I plan to be in the Kansai Area (Osaka, Kyoto,
     Kobe...where they had that huge earthquake on January 17, 1995).  I
     have a wonderful friend who will be accompanying me (and helping
     clarify my PATHETIC attempts at speaking only Japanese while I'm
     there--it's their country; I should use their language!), so she can
     help find some nifty shops.

     Even with all that help, I will be happy to accept any suggestions
     anyone would care to toss my direction.  I consider no piece of
     information a waste.

     - Are there some books I can/should get there that I can't get in the
     US?

     - Where can I get the best deal on paper?  (I don't want to drag
     *much* paper across the water, so I plan to get some there and leave
     it there.)

     - What are the names (and general locations,if possible) of some
     particularly noteworthy shops?

     - What is your name?
     - What is your quest?
     - What is your favorite color?
     - What is the capitol of Assyria?
     - How many coconuts--Wait!  That's what the guy in the movie wanted to
     know!

     T-minus 18 days to liftoff...

     TIA!
     -JA





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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:07:37 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Weinsteins email address?

Can anyone let me know Micheal Weinsteins address? I've got it as:

michaelw@bdg10.niddk.nih.gov but that don't work ;(

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html
