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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:06:44 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: teaching children

> The subject of teaching children can be refined some more.  I have no
> problems teaching my 11 year old grandson, but I couldn't keep a teen-
> ager's attention long enough to get him half way thru an F-14 by LaFosse.
> Maybe he was suffering from short-attention-span-syndrome?

I'm in the group that believes that you can't make someone learn something
if they aren't interested....The follow-up to this is what do you do to
inspire interest?

But I am sure that there are those who aren't interested in origami and
never will be. Folks that don't want to sit down and fold carefully, who
prefer more active activities. I would think that this wouldn't be a
problem if you are only teaching those who have chosen to take a class
etc., but what do you teachers do if you are working with a class at school
and there are some unwilling students? How do you stop those who aren't
interested from distracting those who really want to learn? Let them draw
on their square of paper :->?

pat slider





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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 19:29:45 -0400
From: Russell Hatch <rhatch@MR.Net>
Subject: John Montroll's Starfish

First a quick intro. My name's Russell Hatch, I'm 17, I've been folding
for about 9 months but for most of those months I was only folding cranes
(I folded about 300 of 1000 cranes for my brother's wedding) and I've
started folding some more difficult folds in the last month or two.

The point of my message.

After hearing his name mentioned on this list I got John Montroll's
"Animal Origami for the Enthusiast" out of the library and have folded
some of the folds out of the book but for some reason in step 3 of the
Starfish (p. 21) I can't get point A to meet point B. Does anyone have
some advice for someone new to folding on how to get past this step?

                              -Russell Hatch





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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 02:21:41 -0400
From: mangala oak/3243 <mso@voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp>

 Dear Everybody            25/3/96
Thanks a million for all the info.I rcd
from the 'fold'.I am specially greatful to
 Nigel Pottle ,Ms Janet Hamilton and the
person who very gallantly offered to get
me unsubscribed (incidentally I lost that
 mail while saving ;-(  ,pl remail.)I have been
a silent member of the fold and have followed the
list faithfuly. I must now get 0ff as I am returning
to my own country INDIA ,and will try to reenlist!!.
Is there a way to change the addr. and transfer the
list to my email in INDIA ?
I am going to make paper as per Valerie's
Instructions with Indian perfumes and spices
instead of pot-pourri.I shall also try to
use vegetable dyes.So any more hints for making
 real good paper are welcome. In exchange I promise to
keep the list informed about the results!
So long
Mangala.

mso@voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp

 email (INDIA) oak@cat.ernet.in





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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:04:15 -0400
From: reeds@openix.com (Reeds Family)
Subject: Re: Want suggestions for teaching large groups of youngsters

>I discovered and joined this list recently, and I find it immensely
>interesting.  It has rekindled my lifelong interest in Origami.  I
>just sent in my membership to OUSA.
>
>To my questions:  can you offer advice on how to present Origami to
>young people.  I'll list some points I have in mind.
>
>1. How young a person can you teach Origami?
>   a. Individually
                as young as 3 or 4 in my experience if you do very minimal,
forgiving folds
>   b. In a group
                I've taught 20 2nd-graders at a time without much trouble
>   c. In a large group
>
>2. What models work best with a large group of youngsters?
                Action models! Models that are useful for something (boxes,
note and envelope folds, valentines, airplanes)  Figure on 2 models/hour,
but have one model in reserve.
>
>3. How can you effectively organize a group so the slow ones get extra
>help and the fast ones don't become bored?  (I know ... have the fast
>ones help the others, but what practical tips do you have for
>arranging that?)
                Have kids work in pairs. Keep moving around the room.
Praise everyone. Make everyone hold up the model at each step to check
against their neighbors and yours. Tell the fast ones to make extras and
try their own variations.
>
>4. How large a group can an individual handle?  How large with adult,
>non-Origamian assistants?
                I've taught close to 50, mix of kids and adults, all ages,
without help, but some experienced folders in the group who served as
unofficial assistants.
>
>5. What paper, size and type, works best with these small,
>inexperienced hands?
                I like to teach models that use regular 8 1/2 x 11
rectangular notebook paper/xerox paper--because the kids are used to
handling it, it's always available to the kids, and teaches them to recycle
the paper around them for origami.
>
>It's been awhile since I've taught a group.  I found the experience
>somewhat exhausting and chaotic.
      I think everyone does. But add exhilarating to the list!
                Karen
                Karen Reeds
Science/Medicine Editor
Rutgers University Press
Bldg 4161, Livingston Campus
PO Box 5062
New Brunswick NJ 08903-5062
908--445-7762x602
Fax 908--445-7039
reeds@openix.com (for origami)

  Perhaps with the benefit of the
>experiences of this group I'll be better prepared to do it again.
>Thank you.
>
>
>David M. Phillips      512-288-2887 phillips@qxo.com
>QXO Corporation        512-288-1386 Fax
>6316 Thomas Springs Rd
>Austin TX 78736-2321





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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:16:30 -0400
From: hull@hypatia.math.uri.edu
Subject: (Final?) follow-up on origami constructions

Hi kids!

        Well, my follow-up article replying to the "scandelous" Auckly &
Cleveland paper on origami constructions has finally appeared in
the American Mathematical Monthly, Vol. 103, No. 3, March 1996, pp. 240-
241.  It's nearly the same article as the "OriNote" file in the
archives, so most of you who care have probably already read it.
But it's always worth a look to see origami mentioned in academic
literature.  (And they even managed to make a typo in my little
"author boi" blurb on page 264!)
        So check it out!  The name of the article is "A Note on `Impossible'
Paper Folding", right next to "A New Minimization Proof for the
Brachistochrone".  It's almost like being on Broadway!

--------- Tom "I know good PR when I see it" Hull





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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:42:53 -0400
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: Congratulations, Tom Hull!

     It's exciting to be published!  I'm happy for you!!

      - JAndre@cfipro.com





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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:10:51 -0400
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Looking for this model....

Hi All,
        A friend of mine recently e-mailed me and ask for a model that I
am not familiar with.  I was wondering if I any of you can tell me where
I can obtain information on this model.  Here is his e-mail describing
this model:

> I am looking for instructions on making a toy that I used to have as a kid.
> The only name that I had for it was "Chinese Finger Trap".  This may or may
> not have been the correct name for the toy, but what it consisted of was
> strips of paper that were woven into a tube.  Once you inserted the pinky
> finger of each hand into the tube, the construction of the tube prevented you
> from removing them without help, or at least with a good deal of
> concentration.
>

TIA,
Yusri





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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:48:07 -0400
From: unhinged@yrkpa.kias.com
Subject: Re: Looking for this model....

The Rutters (a local convenience store) where I used to live carried
these- they were plastic, however, not paper, and had the same effect.

On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Yusri Johan wrote:

> Hi All,
>       A friend of mine recently e-mailed me and ask for a model that I
> am not familiar with.  I was wondering if I any of you can tell me where
> I can obtain information on this model.  Here is his e-mail describing
> this model:
>
>
> > I am looking for instructions on making a toy that I used to have as a kid.
> > The only name that I had for it was "Chinese Finger Trap".  This may or may
> > not have been the correct name for the toy, but what it consisted of was
> > strips of paper that were woven into a tube.  Once you inserted the pinky
> > finger of each hand into the tube, the construction of the tube prevented
     you
> > from removing them without help, or at least with a good deal of
> > concentration.
> >
>
> TIA,
> Yusri





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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:49:28 -0400
From: Sheila Davis <sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Teaching

>
>I've found children to be easier to teach than beginning adults.
>
        I agree with this.  Children seem to be more willing to
        experiment and fail than most adults.

        In any case, I wanted to share one teaching hint I've learned.

        When teaching a group where interest in origami may vary
        (say, perhaps, a classroom group), action models are nearly
        always a big hit.  A student who has little interest in origami
        will often decide a model looks nothing like the "real thing"
        and tune out.  But virtually every child in the world has at
        some point in their lives folded a "bug catcher/fortune teller/
        salt cellar".  So I teach puppets and jumping frogs the like.
        The kids love them, they get excited, and some of them seek
        out more elaborate (though sedentary :-) models.
Regards,

  Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
 sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado





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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 16:13:42 -0400
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Looking for this model....

I'm not sure that I would regard these finger traps as an origami model.
I have seen them advertised in a catalogue of 'curiosities'. Let me
know if you want some more information. The supplier is a UK company, so
that may not be good for you.

Richard K.
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:26:41 -0400
From: Kevin Thorne <c598033@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: the sloth

Fellow origamiists,

        I recently went to the Amazon (last summer) and just got a copy
of a video that a friend took while we were there.  I'd like to show some
graditude for the video.  Since I caught a sloth while I was there (I brought
it out of a tree and into our boat for everyone to see) I think it would be a
 good thing to fold and send, but I don't know where to find one.
        Can anyone help me out on this one???

               Thanks,

               Kevin

c598033@showme.missouri.edu





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 05:51:19 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Looking for this model....

I often see these 'finger traps' at markets around the town. However, they
usually are made from strips cane-like material similar to the stuff that
soft cane baskets are made from.

----------
From:   Yusri Johan[SMTP:gs01yyj@panther.gsu.edu]
Sent:   Tuesday, 26 March 1996 06:11
To:     Multiple recipients of list
Subject:        Looking for this model....

Hi All,
        A friend of mine recently e-mailed me and ask for a model that I
am not familiar with.  I was wondering if I any of you can tell me where
I can obtain information on this model.  Here is his e-mail describing
this model:

> I am looking for instructions on making a toy that I used to have as a
kid.
> The only name that I had for it was "Chinese Finger Trap".  This may or
may
> not have been the correct name for the toy, but what it consisted of was
> strips of paper that were woven into a tube.  Once you inserted the pinky
> finger of each hand into the tube, the construction of the tube prevented
you
> from removing them without help, or at least with a good deal of
> concentration.
>

TIA,
Yusri





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:27:13 -0400
From: Penny Groom <penny@sector.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Teaching

In article <199603251842.AA273829336@hpfisew.fc.hp.com>, Sheila Davis
<sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com> writes
>>
>>I've found children to be easier to teach than beginning adults.
>>
>       I agree with this.  Children seem to be more willing to
>       experiment and fail than most adults.
>
>       In any case, I wanted to share one teaching hint I've learned.
>
>       When teaching a group where interest in origami may vary
>       (say, perhaps, a classroom group), action models are nearly
>       always a big hit.  A student who has little interest in origami
>       will often decide a model looks nothing like the "real thing"
>       and tune out.  But virtually every child in the world has at
>       some point in their lives folded a "bug catcher/fortune teller/
>       salt cellar".  So I teach puppets and jumping frogs the like.
>       The kids love them, they get excited, and some of them seek
>       out more elaborate (though sedentary :-) models.
>Regards,

        When teaching a jumping model it always helps to teach a box to
jump it into. It really livens things up trying to get your frog in the
box rather than just pinging it about the table!

Penny
penny@sector.demon.co.uk

>
>  Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
> sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado
>

--
Penny Groom





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:04:23 -0400
From: "NIGEL POTTLE, TEACHER-LIBRARIAN, WOODLANDS ELEM. SCHOOL"@Owl.nstn.ca
Subject: Re: teaching children

Pat and others, I think the good news is that when I am working with children
in an origami group they are self chosen and therefore actually interested in
learning and developing their origami skills. In a classroom where the children
are there because society says they should be, things are quite different.
     Thereit is important to know how to work with a large variety of learning
     styles,
interests, unhappiness, social problems, you name it. The fact that some
teenager wasn't interested in learning a model has much more to do with his
personal interest than in whether the teaching was pedagogically appropriate.

Let's be glad that origami is a "found" art/craft, and not something proscribed
by a curriculum.

Nigel Pottle
npottle@cbe.ab.ca





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:23:47 -0400
From: "M. Schleicher P. Saalbach" <parkmaam@gol.com>
Subject: Re: Teaching

At 06:27 AM 3/26/96 -0400, Penny Groom wrote:
>        When teaching a jumping model it always helps to teach a box to
>jump it into. It really livens things up trying to get your frog in the
>box rather than just pinging it about the table!
>
>Penny
>penny@sector.demon.co.uk

I'll add my 2 cents on this one.  I happened to be teaching hubby awhile
back how to fold G.M. Gross' business card bunny for on-the-road emergencies
of placating small children, and had the 5-section dish from P. Jackson's
Classic Origami book I had just folded out of 10" square paper. Well,
messing around as we usually do, we found out we could hop the bunnies into
each one of their perfect-fitting little 'hutches.' Talk about a terrific
spontaneous game!

Cheers!

Pamela Saalbach
parkmaam@gol.com





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:03:48 -0400
From: Iron Will Dawes <wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: Lang's butterfly

  I'm sorry to do this publicly, but there were too many responses to
reply to each personally. I just wished to thank everyone who
responded to my plea for help with "Origami Zoo"'s butterfly. What a
great list!
                              -Will(wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu)





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:30:33 -0400
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Origami Chess Set

Does anyone have information on where I can find a book with directions for
making an Origami Chess Set? I have a request from a customer for this and I
confess to not having the slightest clue!

Thank You -
Bren
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:33:53 -0400
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Statue of Liberty

It seems to be my day for requests -

I have a folder who is a fan of the Shall "Statue of Liberty".  Have these
diagrams been published and if so are they still in print?  Any information
would be appreciated.

Thanks -
Bren
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:53:03 -0400
From: Iron Will Dawes <wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: origami chess set

  There is a phenomenal complete chess set in John Montroll's "Origami
Inside-Out". He even includes an accurate chessboard from a single
square of origami! It's a truly impressive work.
                              -Will(wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu)





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:05:01 -0400
From: "NIGEL POTTLE, TEACHER-LIBRARIAN, WOODLANDS ELEM. SCHOOL"@Owl.nstn.ca
Subject: Re: Origami Chess Set

There is definitely an Origami chess set in John Montroll library of origami
books. I think it is in the one called Origami Inside Out. It includes all the
pieces as well as a chess board. I think you would need a large piece of
paper to make the board usable though. I once played with it using an eight
inch square. Not smart. It got pretty small.

Good luck
Nigel Pottle





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:09:15 -0400
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.NET>
Subject: Re: Origami Chess Set

At 09:35 AM 3/26/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone have information on where I can find a book with directions for
>making an Origami Chess Set? I have a request from a customer for this and I
>confess to not having the slightest clue!
>

Bren

Here's a couple.

On the ftp server there are diagrams for a chess board, haven't looked at it
so don't know if it includes pieces.

Origami Plain and Simple Robert Neale, has a nice abstract looking chess set
made with modulars ie.  each piece is a modular.

Origami Inside Out John Montroll, has a complete chess set.  I didn't really
look at it, but I think all the pieces are made from one square.

Hope that helps.

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:10:21 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Teaching

Pamela Saalbach wrote:

   I'll add my 2 cents on this one.  I happened to be teaching hubby awhile
   back how to fold G.M. Gross' business card bunny for on-the-road emergencies
   of placating small children, and had the 5-section dish from P. Jackson's
   Classic Origami book I had just folded out of 10" square paper. Well,
   messing around as we usually do, we found out we could hop the bunnies into
   each one of their perfect-fitting little 'hutches.' Talk about a terrific
   spontaneous game!

Is this bunny diagrammed anywhere?  I'm always looking for biz-card
folds.





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:11:30 -0400
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Re: Teaching

>        When teaching a jumping model it always helps to teach a box to
>jump it into. It really livens things up trying to get your frog in the
>box rather than just pinging it about the table!
>
>Penny
>penny@sector.demon.co.uk

Also in Robert Neale's Origami Plain and Simple there is a model for a Big
Mouthed frog.  The mouth on the frog (if made from a large sheet of paper)
is large enough to jump littler frogs into (someone suggested this a while
back on the list),  for that Mr. Mouth type of thing.

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:23:45 -0400
From: chiug@cognos.com (Grace Chiu)
Subject: RE: Michael LaFosse Video Tapes

Any idea when the wet-fold penguin & squirrel video will be available?

I haven't seen the squirrel, but can it be adapted to be a chinchilla with a
white chest and big ears?

Grace
---
Grace Chiu, Enslavened Manager, Technology Support Services,
Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa, ON, Canada
"Do or do not.  There is no 'try'."  -- Yoda





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:33:53 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: New Fuse Book

There is a new Fuse Box book on the horizon :->.

I wonder from the title, though, if this book might just be the simple
boxes from her other books? Seems like there would have at least some new
material. Anyone know anything about this one?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Joyful Origami Boxes; A Basic Book for Beginners"

by

Tamoko Fuse

List: $17.00 -- Amazon.com Price: $15.30 -- You Save: $1.70 (10%)

Publisher: Japan Pubns
Binding: Paperback
Expected publication date: May 1, 1996
ISBN: 0870409743"Joyful Origami Boxes; A Basic Book for Beginners"

by

Tamoko Fuse

List: $17.00 -- Amazon.com Price: $15.30 -- You Save: $1.70 (10%)

Publisher: Japan Pubns
Binding: Paperback
Expected publication date: May 1, 1996
ISBN: 0870409743





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:04:44 -0400
From: Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com
Subject: decorative paper cuts

Oh horrors! Scissors.
Unless you are from Ann Arbor, if such things offend you: STOP NOW!

Still with me?
Can you tell me the name of the decorative Chinese paper cutting?
(kirigami?) And do you know a good source for information (not
necessarily directions) on this craft?

Why the Ann Arbor caveat above? There is (was?) a doctor at the
UM Medical Center who cuts beautiful paper snowflakes, but I
have forgotten his name. Does anyone know his name? or how
I can get in touch with him?

Thanks for the help.
Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:55:27 -0400
From: Daniel Say <say@sfu.CA>
Subject: Re: new book announced by Amazon.com Infobot

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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:11:24 -0400
From: marckrsh@pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: Statue of Liberty

On Mar 26, 1996 11:33:53, 'Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>'
wrote:

>
>I have a folder who is a fan of the Shall "Statue of Liberty".  Have these

>diagrams been published and if so are they still in print?  Any
information
>would be appreciated.

Origami USA supplies a video on how to fold that model. It can be ordered
through the Origami Source.

Marc





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:13:54 -0400
From: marckrsh@pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: Origami Chess Set

On Mar 26, 1996 11:30:33, 'Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>'
wrote:

>Does anyone have information on where I can find a book with directions
for
>making an Origami Chess Set? I have a request from a customer for this and
I
>confess to not having the slightest clue!

Assides from the set by John Montroll, the BOS put out a booklet that
includes three complete chess sets. If you can wait, Douglas CAine is
putting together a book on his chess set (I would not hold my breath on
this one, however; it could be more than a year untill it is completed).

Marc





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:46:10 -0400
From: terryh@lamg.com (Terry Hall)
Subject: Re: Origami Chess Set

Hi Bren,

The  Shall origami Statue of Liberty was only available as a video-tape as
far as I know.
There are several chess set designs around, but the easiest one to obtain is
in John Montroll's book, "Origami Inside Out" (ISBN 0-486-27674-0) and costs
$9.95 by Dover Publications Inc. published in 1993. The other chess sets are
in the BOS series and are more difficult to obtain. See you on Saturday.

Terry Hall
terryh@lamg.com





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:14:42 -0400
From: Troy_Tate_at_~ECCAUS@eccw.rck.COM
Subject: Re[2]: Teaching

What is your business card bunny like?  Can you explain it or send a diagram.  I
just changed companies and have ~100 cards to use up!

tia,

Troy

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re: Teaching
Author:  uunet!nstn.ca!origami-l
Date:    3/26/96 12:07 PM

I'll add my 2 cents on this one.  I happened to be teaching hubby awhile
back how to fold G.M. Gross' business card bunny for on-the-road emergencies
of placating small children, and had the 5-section dish from P. Jackson's
Classic Origami book I had just folded out of 10" square paper. Well,
messing around as we usually do, we found out we could hop the bunnies into
each one of their perfect-fitting little 'hutches.' Talk about a terrific
spontaneous game!

Cheers!

Pamela Saalbach
parkmaam@gol.com





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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:32:03 -0400
From: "M. Schleicher P. Saalbach" <parkmaam@gol.com>
Subject: Model: Business Card Bunny

Jeannine Mosely and Troy Tate asked:

>Is this bunny diagrammed anywhere?

Yes. It's in G.M.Gross' book titled "Origami: Creative Ideas for
Paperfolding." Michael Friedman Publishers, 1994. ISBN: 1-56799-068-1

Get hopping! Cheers!

Pamela Saalbach
parkmaam@gol.com





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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 08:12:09 -0400
From: David Holmes <cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk>
Subject: Nottingham BOS convention question.

Hi all,

I'm getting a connecting train from Tamworth to Nottingham, and was
wondering if anyone knew whether the train stops at Beeston station just
before Nottingham?

It looks like a shorter walk from Beeston station :)

Looking forward to meeting everyone,

David M Holmes                  cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
British Origami Society        Association of C & C++ Users
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/       (in development)





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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:44:31 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Kinokuniya

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

I will be traveling to San Francisco next month on business, and hope
to have some time to check into sources for origami books and paper.  I
have adresses for Aitoh and The Paper Tree, but not for the Kinokuniya
store, other than that it is in the Japantown Mall.  Can someone
provide a street address for Kinokuniya so I can locate it on the map
and plan my tour?

Thanks in advance,
Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:07:36 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: Kinokuniya

Japan Center, Kinokuniya Building
1581 Webster Street, San Francisco, CA

Be sure to also visit the Kinokuniya Stationary and Gift store across from
the bookstore! They have a nice paper selection.

(And while you are in San Francisco, try to go to the Exploratorium at the
Palace of Fine Arts, near the Golden Gate Bridge. More fun than fisherman's
wharf :->.)

pat slider.

>-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
>
>I will be traveling to San Francisco next month on business, and hope
>to have some time to check into sources for origami books and paper.  I
>have adresses for Aitoh and The Paper Tree, but not for the Kinokuniya
>store, other than that it is in the Japantown Mall.  Can someone
>provide a street address for Kinokuniya so I can locate it on the map
>and plan my tour?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Janet Hamilton
>dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:17:45 -0400
From: Jeanine Meyer <MEYER@pacevm.dac.pace.edu>
Subject: Re: Teaching

I often begin with a simple box (made from rectangle that isn't
a square, such as a standard magazine cover) to give the students
something to carry away their models.  The suggestion to
ask the folders to see if they can make the frog or rabbit jump
into the box is a great idea.

You can do a lesson on scientific investigation / scientific
method by comparing the jumping of frogs made out of different
sizes, shapes and thicknesses of paper.
Let the students devise the experiment.





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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:11:43 -0400
From: Sheila Davis <sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Kinokuniya

>
> Japan Center, Kinokuniya Building
> 1581 Webster Street, San Francisco, CA
>
        Some directions may help.  The easiest way to get there is
        to take 101 north toward the "City Center/Golden Gate Bridge".
        Eventually you'll see signs for Fell St.  Follow the freeway
        to its end.  If you go straight, you're on Fell St.  If you
        turn right you're on...rats...I forget the name, but it will
        take you right to the edge of Japan Town.

        Fair warning--if you go on a Sunday, parking is a *bear*.

        If you're downtown looking for Japan Town, take Geary towards
        the Golden Gate Bridge.  That will also take you right by
        Japan Town.

        Finally, if you're over by Golden Gate Park, probably the easiest
        way is Divisadero to Geary, then right on Geary.

        Can you tell I visit Japan Town in SF a lot?  :-)

        Also, many people have mentioned Kinokuniya Stationary, but
        Mikado in the Kintetsu side of the mall is even better IMHO.
        Kinokuniya has more exotic papers (washi and whatnot), but
        Mikado has pretty much every type of packaged origami on
        the market.  I'm lazy enough to like my paper precut :-)

Regards,

  Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
 sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado





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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:10:52 -0400
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: decorative paper cuts

At 15:04 26/03/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Oh horrors! Scissors.
>Unless you are from Ann Arbor, if such things offend you: STOP NOW!
>
>Still with me?
>Can you tell me the name of the decorative Chinese paper cutting?
>(kirigami?) And do you know a good source for information (not
>necessarily directions) on this craft?
>
I am very interested in Paper Cuts but prefer to keep it as a seperate art
from my first love, which is paper folding and no scissors. The best book I
have ever seen is called !The Art of Chinese Paper Cuts' by Zhang Daoyi,
published by Foreign Language Press Beijing , in English. ISBN
0-8351-1577-1. It traces the history of paper-cutting in China from 1500
years ago and is a really authorative work. It is very well illustrated with
many pictures in colour. I was so impressed that I wrote to the author and
the publishers asking if they had any information on paper folding in China.
The answer seems to be a resounding no.

Can anyone tell me where all these stories came from about the log history
of paper folding in China and what is the evidence for it I know authors
keep on repeating it but so far none of them offer anything to substantiate
what they keep saying.

Some day I hope some one will offer a clue.  John.
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:16:50 -0400
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Re: decorative paper cuts

>Can you tell me the name of the decorative Chinese paper cutting?
>(kirigami?) And do you know a good source for information (not
>necessarily directions) on this craft?

There is a recent book, _Paper Cutting_ by Chris Rich which covers many
different traditions of paper cuts from around the world.  I don't have my
hands on my copy just now, but the book is available from
Lark Books
50 College St.
Asheville NC 28801
1-800-284-3388

It is also widely available at bookstores since it is from a major publisher
and is currently in print.  I've seen it at numerous stores.

Also, Paul Jackson's Encyclopedia of Origami and Papercraft has a section on
paper cuts as I recall.

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:38:12 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Amherst, MA folding group

Would someone from the Amherst origami group please contact me
privately?  I am interested in attending your next meeting, but I need
lots of advance notice to plan for an out of town trip.  Thanks.

(I'm sorry to bother the whole list with this, but I don't know how
else to reach them.)

        -- jeannine mosely (j9@concentra.com)





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 00:12:31 -0400
From: quintin@ra.isisnet.com (L. Quintin)
Subject: online origami magazine

I've only been on this list a couple of weeks so forgive me if I'm repeating
well known news.  I ran across Online Origami magazine while perusing Alex
Barber's home page.  I haven't heard any mention of it on this list so I put
it forth.  The magazine archives can be found at
ftp://rugcis.rug.nl/origami/oo_magazine/





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 02:53:45 -0400
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Chess Set - Thank You!

Gosh - what a great response!  Thank you -everyone - for all the assistance
on the chess set and the statue of liberty.  I have just added "Origami
Inside-Out" to the list of books and will have it very shortly, so I'll be
able to help my customer.
I'll follow up on the rest of leads privately -
Bren
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 03:55:55 -0400
From: jwu@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Wu)
Subject: History of Chinese folding (was Re: decorative paper cuts)

At 3:10 PM 96.3.27, John Smith wrote:
>Can anyone tell me where all these stories came from about the long history
>of paper folding in China and what is the evidence for it I know authors
>keep on repeating it but so far none of them offer anything to substantiate
>what they keep saying.
>
>Some day I hope some one will offer a clue.  John.

John, I believe that there is only empirical (and unsubstantiable) evidence
for the "long history of paper folding in China". Observation of the models
considered to be "traditional" in both the Chinese and Japanese traditions
show a difference in focus and style. Chinese folding, as evidenced by the
models taught by parents to their children, and as evidenced by Maying Soong's
book, tend to focus on 90-degree and 45-degree folds and tend to use blintz
folds. 22.5-degree folds are seldom used, while they are common in Japanese
"traditional" folding. This would seem to indicate that Chinese folding is
of a more "primitive" (less developed) form, which supports the supposition
that the Chinese tradition is older than the Japanese. Philip Shen asserts
that subject choice in Chinese folding is also different from the Japanese,
focussing on models of man-made objects such as containers rather than on
representational forms of animals and the like.

As I said, this is all conjecture based on observation. It's really too bad
that we can't find any better record of Chinese paper folding.

Oh, wait, I also remember a reference to players of Chinese chess folding
a grid on a sheet of paper for use as a chess board. I don't recall where
that was, however. I believe that there is also a reference to folding paper
in an early Chinese poem. I'm going to have to go home and do some more
reading...I just hope I brought those particular references to Japan with me!

 Joseph Wu                                  Webmaster of the Origami Page
<jwu@cs.ubc.ca>             <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
Heavenly Parent, as the miry bottom of the pond helps the lotus flower to
grow, so may our often unlovely environment encourage growth in us. And as
the lotus blossom in all its radiance rises above the mire, so help us to
transcend our earthly environment to become heavenly personalities worthy
to be called your children. Amen.          [Prayer of a Chinese Christian]





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:15:21 -0400
From: Stamm@aol.com
Subject: Re: online origami magazine

Just so that everyone knows -- Online Origami hasn't been published in over a
year.  Simply I no longer have the time to devote to it.  Perhaps if my life
radically changes again, I will pick it up.

I have posted the diagrams from back issues on my Web Site.

http://members.aol.com/stamm/index.html

Tom "Still Lurking" Stamm





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:27:20 -0400
From: marmonk@eskimo.com (Mark Morden)
Subject: Re: Chess Set - Thank You!

>Gosh - what a great response!  Thank you -everyone - for all the assistance
>on the chess set and the statue of liberty.  I have just added "Origami
>Inside-Out" to the list of books and will have it very shortly, so I'll be
>able to help my customer.
>I'll follow up on the rest of leads privately -
>Bren
>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>- - - - - - - - - - -
>Fascinating Folds
>Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
>our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
>http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper
>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>- - - - - - - - - - -
>
>
>
Quite a while ago there was a thread discussing the sizes of paper that
should be used for Montroll's chess set so that the pieces and the board all
end up proportioned correctly.  Does anybody remember what sizes were
discussed or what sizes should be used to make a complete set? Thanks in
advance.

Mark

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I belive in the rising sun;
not because I see it but by it I see all else.
                                           C.S. Lewis





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:44:59 -0400
From: jmarcoli@stratacom.com (John Marcolina)
Subject: Chinese Zodiac Book

Greetings Foldomaniacs,

I just picked up the one and only copy of Mythological Creatures and the
Chinese Zodiac by John Montroll at my local Barnes and Noble - It was on the
shelf! So of course I grabbed it! This particular B&N actually has an origami
section, and a well-stocked one at that, they also had a copy of Brilliant
Origami (BTW, am I the only one who missed the subtlety of David BRILLiant's
title?).

Back to the book. It's great, of course. It contains 26 models, about half
Chinese Zodiac figures and the other half Mythological Creatures. Of the
mythological creatures, there's dragons (one with 3 heads!), a centaur,
griffin, pegasus, wyvern, chimera, cerberus, and a  unicorn with a wonderful
spiral horn. The book follows John's typical format: sketches of the models
in front, followed by diagrams, which are computer drawn and excellent. There
is a description of each model, and models are rated from one to four stars
in difficulty. Four star models are the Chimera, which has three *different*
heads, and the three-headed dragon (which looks really cool - I'll probably
fold that first).

Best of all, it's from Dover, so the price is right! ($9.95). The ISBN is
0-486-28971-0.

I'm sure we'll all be hearing more as other people find this book and begin
folding.

Way to go John!

John Marcolina
jmarcolina@strata.com





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 15:38:16 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: origami chess set

How about the BOS booklet "Chess sets of Hulme & Wall"? They include
two full sets of pieces, a box & two 1 piece boards!

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 15:43:28 -0400
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: History of Chinese folding (was Re: decorative paper cuts)

Hi Joseph, At 03:55 28/03/96 -0400, you wrote:

>>
>
>John, I believe that there is only empirical (and unsubstantiable) evidence
>for the "long history of paper folding in China". Observation of the models
>considered to be "traditional" in both the Chinese and Japanese traditions
>show a difference in focus and style. Chinese folding, as evidenced by the
>models taught by parents to their children, and as evidenced by Maying Soong's
>book, tend to focus on 90-degree and 45-degree folds and tend to use blintz
>folds. 22.5-degree folds are seldom used, while they are common in Japanese
>"traditional" folding. This would seem to indicate that Chinese folding is
>of a more "primitive" (less developed) form, which supports the supposition
>that the Chinese tradition is older than the Japanese.

I have conjectured that the emphasis in Japan on animal symbolism, eg. the
crane, turtle, and so on requires paper folding that had tapering points to
represent wings, legs etc., this means using diagonal folds and lead
inevitably to the bird base (from a square) and its variations. In China it
may be that paper furniture was folded as grave goods and this would demand
folding with the  emphasis on folds parallel to the sides of a square. I
cannot see that one form rather than another is less or more developed. If
the Chinese Junk really is a Chinese fold then this indicates to me a very
advanced form of folding indeed. There is nothing in the classical Japanese
models which equal this masterpiece. Also as David Lister has pointed out
the Flapping Bird seems to have been almost unknown in Japan until recently,
did this originate in China?. It could well have done so, who knows.
Meantime I wish we could stop authors printing unsubstantiated flights of
fancy lifted from other peoples conjectures. You know the sort of rubbish I
mean.

>Oh, wait, I also remember a reference to players of Chinese chess folding
>a grid on a sheet of paper for use as a chess board. I don't recall where
>that was, however. I believe that there is also a reference to folding paper
>in an early Chinese poem. I'm going to have to go home and do some more
>reading...I just hope I brought those particular references to Japan with me!

I think these are the references you mean, the chess board has, is I am
afraid, a non-starter.

>
Reference is also made to the literary masterwork, "The History of the
Prince Genji"
by a court lady, Murasaki Shikibi about the year 1000. An intriguing
quotation is
given:

"Nyosans answer was given on thin Karmesin Red paper and the extra ordinary
ingenious and elegant manner in which it was folded caused Prince Genji's
heart to beat
faster"

>Phillip Shen in a letter to David Lister 4th October 1980, makes clear that
Vacca had mis- translated a reference to Tu Fu which had previously been
held to show the very early record of paper folding in China. Artificial
flowers found in Tunhuang are held in Needham's Science and Civilisation in
China Vol V:1 are held to be proof that paper folding was established in the
Thang dynasty. I examined the report of the excavations and it is quite
clear that we are dealing with paper cuts (not folding).

Many thanks for responding, there must be someone somewhere who can add a
bit of real flesh to these shadowy bones.

May i have a PS. I have now revised the text of OIL and can supply it in RTF
format A5 size, is this of any interest?  regards John.
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:08:54 -0400
From: contract@pipeline.com (Contractors Exchange)
Subject: Re: origami chess set

On Mar 28, 1996 15:38:16, 'Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>'
wrote:

>How about the BOS booklet "Chess sets of Hulme & Wall"? They include
>two full sets of pieces, a box & two 1 piece boards!
>

And also includes a very elegant set by Neal Elias.





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:48:27 -0400
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Subject: Re: origami chess set

I recall a while back in this list. Someone posted a favorite model
"Seamless Chessboard" by Steven Casey. Does anyone have further information
on this model?

|-------------------------------------------------------\
|  _  Sy Chen <chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov>    |\
| |_| Folding Page http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm --\





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:12:32 -0400
From: Kevin Thorne <c598033@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: origami chess set

On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Nick Robinson wrote:

> How about the BOS booklet "Chess sets of Hulme & Wall"? They include
> two full sets of pieces, a box & two 1 piece boards!

        How would one go about getting this booklet?

Kevin





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 20:22:17 -0400
From: marckrsh@pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: origami chess set

On Mar 28, 1996 17:48:27, '"Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)"
<sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>' wrote:

>I recall a while back in this list. Someone posted a favorite model
>"Seamless Chessboard" by Steven Casey. Does anyone have further
information
>on this model?

This model was published a few years back in the Procedings of the West
Coast Origami Guild. It really is quite an incredible model. From a single
square, Steven Casey manages to produce all 64 squares of a chessboard
without any extraneous folded edges. It is also a fairly efficient model
that locks together quite nicely.

Marc





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 21:55:11 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re:Looking for this modrel

I have seen this toy sold at the boardwalk made of straw.  I know which model
he means and it seems to me that I have seen it in an early Eric Kenneway
book on action toys or braided models..  Check with the BOA to see if they
might know of it.  If I find it I will communicate.Dorigami





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:51:21 -0400
From: terryh@lamg.com (Terry Hall)
Subject: Seamless Chessboard

Hi All,

If anyone is interested in the Steven Casey chessboard diagrams Ihave the
back issues of the West Coast Origami Guild newsletters. There will be a very
nominal fee to cover costs and postage (probably $1).

Terry Hall
terryh@lamg.com





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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:53:22 -0400
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (S.Y. Chen)
Subject: Re: origami chess set

>
>This model was published a few years back in the Procedings of the West
>Coast Origami Guild. It really is quite an incredible model. From a single
>square, Steven Casey manages to produce all 64 squares of a chessboard
>without any extraneous folded edges. It is also a fairly efficient model
>that locks together quite nicely.
>
>Marc

Does Steven have any design of chess piece?

Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. SY)
E-Mail: chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov
Origami Page - http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm





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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 04:29:07 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: What is a flasher - not Brill!

> Could someone tell me what a flasher is exactly?  I haven't heard of any
> origami by that name before.

Someone who unveils their genitalia to surprise others! (Usually men).
Needless to say, it is an "action" design!

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 07:38:48 -0400
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: origami chess set, BOS booklet.

I'm afraid that this is another of the out-of-print booklets by the
BOS. It's the BOS convention this weekend. I'll ask what progress has
been made towards reprinting these marvellous collections. Don't hold
your breath! It is sometimes possible to acquire booklets from BOS
members of long-standing, but I'm afraid I'm not in that category -
I'm a hunter too!

Richard Kennedy
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)

PS My email address will change v. soon. You can either use the
central address above, which I have set to follow me, OR I shall
post a message to origami-l from my new account, and you'll then
be able to read the new specific address from the from: field.
However, I've so far been defeated by the mail system on the new
computer (DEC Unix). It's got elm + gnu emacs, but essentially
no documentation on either!





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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 09:28:21 -0400
From: Wolfgang Roeckelein <wolfgang@wi.whu-koblenz.de>
Subject: Re: Seamless Chessboard

terryh@lamg.com (Terry Hall) wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> If anyone is interested in the Steven Casey chessboard diagrams Ihave the
> back issues of the West Coast Origami Guild newsletters. There will be a
> very nominal fee to cover costs and postage (probably $1).

Yes, I am interested, what would be the cost for shipping to europe (first
     class)?

  Wolfgang
---
Dipl.-Wirtsch.Inf.      Voice:       +49 941 943 2998
Wolfgang Roeckelein     Fax:        +49 941 943 4986
Uni Regensburg   E-Mail: roeckelein@wi.whu-koblenz.de
Universitaetsstr. 31       Wolfgang.Roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de
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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:14:10 -0400
From: RA Kennedy <kennedra@isdugp.bham.ac.UK>
Subject: New email address

My new central email address - R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk - seems to be
working fine.

For a specific address, try kennedra@uk.ac.bham.isdugp  or
                            kennedra@uk.ac.bham.isdux1.

(I expect one or other of these will appear in theffrom field at the top
of this message).

Richard Kennedy.





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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:51:53 -0400
From: michaelb@adobe.com (Michael Bourgoin)
Subject: Re: Seamless Chessboard

>Hi All,
>
>If anyone is interested in the Steven Casey chessboard diagrams Ihave the
>back issues of the West Coast Origami Guild newsletters. There will be a very
>nominal fee to cover costs and postage (probably $1).
>
>Terry Hall
>terryh@lamg.com

Hi Terry,

I'd be very interested in these diagrams. Please let me know how to proceed.

Best regards,

Michael Bourgoin
michaelb@adobe.com





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Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:00:15 -0400
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Montroll's New Book - Dover

I just today got the Dover Spring 1996 New Books Catalog.  On page 25 is
John Montroll's latest:
        Mythological Creatures and The Chinese Zodiac in Origami
Dover price is $9.95, order/item number 28971-0
The address is:
        Dover Publications, Inc.
        31 East 2nd Street
        Mineola, NY 11501

(Dover does not do telephone or credit card orders).

Shipping charges and tax (if applicable) are extra, of course.

-Doug
