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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:07:48 -0400
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: Re: Wolf origami

At 12:14 PM 3/21/96 -0400, you wrote:
>At 09:25 AM 3/21/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>Right now I'm looking for any wolf related origami (realistic models,
abstract
>>models, a wolf mask, etc.) for a friend.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.
>
>Try Viva Origami, there is a Wolf model in it by Jun Maekawa a picture of
>the model can be found at Erica Andersons (Sp?) home page.  The book is in
>Japanese and expsensive so warnings in advance.  Its the only wolf that I
>can think of

Here is the URL of the origami wolf photo:

http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric/origami/animals.jpg

..the wolf is the one at the bottom  ;-)

Unfortunately, that's the only wolf model I know of.

-Eric Andersen   :-P

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      /__|__\            \/__|__\/            a miniature
      \  |  /             \_/ \_/                Lang
       \ | /             Flapping                 cicada
        \|/                bird
         V                                            Eric Andersen
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:43:59 -0400
From: rshuster@newtech.net (Bob Shuster)
Subject: origami bibliography

Hi folders.  I finally got around to putting my origami bibliography page
up on the web.  You can get to it from my main orgami page
(http://www.newtech.net/webwerks/origami.html) or go there directly
(http://www.newtech.net/webwerks/oribib.html).  Take a look, tell me what
you think, submit more books to me (please in the same format I've used on
the listing!), and help me fill in the blanks on the books that are there.
I'm missing publication dates, and list prices on a few of the books.  I
know it's a very small list right now, but with your help I'm hoping to
make it grow.  Thanx   - Bob

      = = =      /| Bob Shuster -  Composer/Arranger/Copyist/MIDI & Computer
[>----|-|-|-----/ |  Consultant (& trumpet!) - now Web Page Design too!
  (___|_|_|____)\ |  email: rshuster@newtech.net        phone: 215-927-4928
      " " "      \|  music: http://www.newtech.net/webwerks/musikwerks.html
                         web design: http://www.newtech.net/webwerks/





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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:00:49 -0400
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Wolf origami

>Howdy,
>
>I've been 'lurking' on the origami list for the past few months.  Having gotten
>back into origami after a hiatus of a few years, this list is a great way to
>catch up.  Thanks, all!
>
>Right now I'm looking for any wolf related origami (realistic models, abstract
>models, a wolf mask, etc.) for a friend.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

        I invented a wolf several years ago; it's easier to fold than
Maekawa's (which I always thought was a fox, but I don't read Japanese,
so...), but bulkier (the paper gets thicker during the folding process).  I
think I've got the unpublished diagrams for it at home; I could send you a
copy if you like.

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:58:52 -0400
From: Oded Streigold <benjic@netvision.net.il>
Subject: crane + star

 Hi!

 Here's a useful tip. It is rather obvious, but I only saw it yesterday:
 If you make a crane, and you, by mistake, narrow the flaps for the wings
 ( Between which is the triangular tip of the preliminary base ) instead
 of the flaps for the legs, then simply bring the wings down to make
 them legs and the legs up to make them wings. Got it?

 Here's a nice star fold I can explain with words: Start with coloured side
     up. Looks best with gold or silver coloured paper. Half the paper
     rectangularly, half it again (to a square )   and then make a frog base.
     Open the paper complete
 creases closest to the edge will be mountain creases. Try to fold the paper
 as much as it would give. the central points in each of the 4 square areas
 of the paper are supposed to touch one another wickly.
 You now have half of the star.
 Make another one and glue the two together from below, It's very hard to
     connect them perfectly so do it un perfectly.
 The result is a nice star with zillions of points.

 If you figure out a way to make the fold work without glue or with 1 paper
 it could improve things.

 Bye!

 Oded.
 benjic@netvision.net.il





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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 15:31:17 -0400
From: Peggy Van Norman <ECZ5PEG@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Looking for Neal Elias Model Diagrams....

Hi everyone....I'm looking for diagrams of models by U.S. folder
Neal Elias.  I have the B.O.S. booklet "Selected Works:
1964-1973" but there aren't many Elias models in any of the
other books that I have.  I'm particularly interested in "Mother
Love" and "Michelangelo's Pieta" - I really like "The Last
Waltz" and his other models where two figures are folded from
one (though not always square) sheet of paper, and in general
his choice of subject matter is very intriguing.  Is there
anyone out there who would be willing to send me copies of Elias
diagrams, or who knows where I might find them?  Or, is there
anyone from the B.O.S. who knows if there was ever a 2nd volume
published (as promised by Dave Venables)?  Thanks....

Peggy Van Norman
ecz5peg@mvs.oac.ucla.edu





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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:23:16 -0400
From: Oded Streigold <benjic@netvision.net.il>
Subject: re: wolf

 Hallo!

 Here are wolf folds, that I cut and pasted from the orimodel list, I d\l
 from the origami archive.

              Wolf                             Creator: Isao Honda
                 World Of Origami, p. 146  By: Honda
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into bird base.
                 level: L  #/steps: 15  Folds: sq
                 A modular form needing 2non-uniform unites.
                 Glue is helpful.

              Wolf [wolf]                      Creator: Irmgard Kneissler
                 Origami - Papierfalten, p. 58  By: Kneissler
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into bird base.
                 level: L  #/steps: 12  Folds: petal,crimp,rev
                 A modular form needing 2non-uniform unites.
                 This model requires cutting.

              Wolf)                            Creator: Kunihiko Kasahara
                 Viva Origami, p. 88  By: Kasahara

                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into precreased base.
                 level: H  #/steps: 31  Folds: rev,collapse,sq

              Snapping Wolf                    Creator: Samuel Randlett
                 Art of Origami, p. 43  By: Randlett
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into diamond base.
                 level: M  #/steps: 3

              Lone Wolf                        Creator: Asahi Isamu
                 Origami Monsters, p. 18  By: Asahi
                 Begin w/ a sq  folding into diagonal base.
                 level: L  #/steps: 17
 Bye!

 Oded <benjic@netvision.net.il> =8->





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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:46:12 -0400
From: Kristine Tomlinson <ktomlinson@platinum.com>
Subject: Re[2]: Wolf origami

    Hi,

    I believe Isao Honda's World of Origami has a wolf, but it's probably
    in the 1960 edition mentioned in an earlier note.  It's a compound
    model.  When I get home, I'll check the abridged one.

    BTW, there's a 1960 copy in a library near me. Each time I go in, I
    xerox a few more models to add to the abridged copy I own.  Probably
    easier and cheaper than locating a real copy from 1960.  :-)

    Kristine
    ktomlinson@trinzic.com

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Subject: Re: Wolf origami
Author:  origami-l@nstn.ca at CCSMTPGW
Date:    3/21/96 11:14 AM

At 09:25 AM 3/21/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Right now I'm looking for any wolf related origami (realistic models, abstract
>models, a wolf mask, etc.) for a friend.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Try Viva Origami, there is a Wolf model in it by Jun Maekawa a picture of
the model can be found at Erica Andersons (Sp?) home page.  The book is in
Japanese and expsensive so warnings in advance.  Its the only wolf that I
can think of

Anybody else ?

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:50:13 -0400
From: marckrsh@pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: Looking for Neal Elias Model Diagrams....

On Mar 21, 1996 15:31:17, 'Peggy Van Norman
<ECZ5PEG@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>' wrote:

>Hi everyone....I'm looking for diagrams of models by U.S. folder
>Neal Elias.  I have the B.O.S. booklet "Selected Works:
>1964-1973" but there aren't many Elias models in any of the
>other books that I have.  I'm particularly interested in "Mother
>Love" and "Michelangelo's Pieta" - I really like "The Last
>Waltz" and his other models where two figures are folded from
>one (though not always square) sheet of paper, and in general
>his choice of subject matter is very intriguing.  Is there
>anyone out there who would be willing to send me copies of Elias
>diagrams, or who knows where I might find them?  Or, is there
>anyone from the B.O.S. who knows if there was ever a 2nd volume
>published (as promised by Dave Venables)?  Thanks....

Sam Randlett produced a series of mini booklets that were compiled together
to form what is known as *The Flapping Bird.* A few of Elias' models are
included in the collection. His works can also be found in the later Harbin
series of booklets. The last time I checked, the BOS is still selling a
collection of his models, with diagrams taken directly from his notebooks.
I am very sure Dave Vernables did not put out that second volume yet.

Marc





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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:19:53 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Abridged World of Origami

Does anyone know how much material was left out of the abridged "World
of Origami"?  Why was it abridged?  Is the abridged version still in
print?

        -- jeannine mosely





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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:46:00 -0400
From: terryh@lamg.com (Terry Hall)
Subject: Re: London shops - books & paper

Richard,
I am compiling a world wide listing of origami shops where you can buy books
and paper. Would you be so kind as to give me the exact addresses and
telephone numbers of any locations that you know of so that I can add them to
my list. Currently, I have about 100 entries so any help that you can give me
would be appreciated. The completed list (if it is possible to define that)
will be made available to everyone. Thanks.

Terry Hall
terryh@lamg.com





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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 23:18:52 -0400
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (S.Y. Chen)
Subject: Re: Wolf

Someone mentioned the wolf model in VIVA! Origami. I pulled out my copy and
checked.
The model name in VIVA book is 'kitsune', which is FOX in Japanese.





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 00:01:42 -0400
From: PenneyA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Looking for flasher - not Brill's

I have a diagram of the flasher that I aquired through our Origami monthly
meeting here in Ann Arbor.  But to tell the truth, if someone gave me only
the diagram, there is no way I could fold it.  I learned to fold it by one of
our members, this was probably 3 months ago.
                           Penney





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 01:34:35 -0400
From: knuffke@sirius.com (Charles Knuffke)
Subject: Re: Looking for flasher - not Brill's

>
> I was so excited when some one mentioned that Brill's Brilliant Origami
> had the flasher in it, that I ran out and bought the book.  Well the
> book is really great, but the flasher is not the one that I am looking
> for.  At Origami USA convention '95, a flasher was taught.  I forget by
> whom.  It is more of a geometric collapsible model.  Does anyone know
> where I can find a diagram of it?
>

The flasher model you're looking for is most likely diagrammed in the Bay
Area Rapid Folder's Summer '95 Newsletter. Back issues are available from
Jeremy Shafer at:

BARF
1744 Virginia St.
Berkeley, CA  94703

Back Issues run $2.00 each (except for a special oversized March '94 "Best
of the West Issue" which is $5.00) and include $2.00 for postage ($4.00 if
Overseas).

If anyone's interested, I can type in a list of back issues and their contents.

Regards.

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Charles Knuffke       "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"
153 Divisadero                                  -Jack Kerouac
San Francisco CA 94104
knuffke@sirius.com





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 01:37:42 -0400
From: knuffke@sirius.com (Charles Knuffke)
Subject: Re: Harbin Reprint

>
> Nick,
>
> <<The BOS have been approached by a publisher who wants to reprint
> Harbin's Step by Step>>
>

Nick:

Maybe you should consider offering the publisher a package deal if they
also promised to reprint Harbin's Secrets of Origami!  ;-)

Regards,

Charles Knuffke

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Charles Knuffke       "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"
153 Divisadero                                  -Jack Kerouac
San Francisco CA 94104
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:50:20 -0400
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Re: Abridged World of Origami

At 04:06 PM 3/21/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>
>Does anyone know how much material was left out of the abridged "World
>of Origami"?  Why was it abridged?  Is the abridged version still in
>print?
>
>       -- jeannine mosely

Don't know how much was left out but I know one of the things that was left
out really hacked me off.  In the foward or introduction Honda talks about
the traditional crab the was part of the Kan no Mando (sp?) and there are
pictures on the cover on some editions, of the crab.  Diagrams for the Crab
? No ! ! ! !   Oooh I hate it when that happens.

I wonder if the crab is in the original text ?

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:02:12 -0400
From: bob@maggie.pentek.com (Bob)
Subject: Abridged World of Origami

Hi All

In the early 70s I came across World of Origami in my school library.  I must
have been 9 or 10 years old at the time.  It was the only book of origami I
could find and I borrowed it for months at a time.

In the early 90s while in EPCOT center I came across it and purchased it along
with OftC.  These two books got me back into origami (along with the other 40
or 50 books I've purchased over the past few years).  Anyway ... I felt the
book was missing a few models ... now I know why!  I think the crab on the
cover was originally in the book.  I would be interested in the original
version if it can still be found.

Robert
bob@pentek.com





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:09:34 -0400
From: phillips@qxo.com (David M. Phillips)
Subject: Want suggestions for teaching large groups of youngsters

I discovered and joined this list recently, and I find it immensely
interesting.  It has rekindled my lifelong interest in Origami.  I
just sent in my membership to OUSA.

To my questions:  can you offer advice on how to present Origami to
young people.  I'll list some points I have in mind.

1. How young a person can you teach Origami?
   a. Individually
   b. In a group
   c. In a large group

2. What models work best with a large group of youngsters?

3. How can you effectively organize a group so the slow ones get extra
help and the fast ones don't become bored?  (I know ... have the fast
ones help the others, but what practical tips do you have for
arranging that?)

4. How large a group can an individual handle?  How large with adult,
non-Origamian assistants?

5. What paper, size and type, works best with these small,
inexperienced hands?

It's been awhile since I've taught a group.  I found the experience
somewhat exhausting and chaotic.  Perhaps with the benefit of the
experiences of this group I'll be better prepared to do it again.
Thank you.

David M. Phillips      512-288-2887 phillips@qxo.com
QXO Corporation        512-288-1386 Fax
6316 Thomas Springs Rd
Austin TX 78736-2321





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:13:12 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Abridged World of Origami

Brett wrote :

> Don't know how much was left out but I know one of the things that was left
> out really hacked me off.  In the foward or introduction Honda talks about
> the traditional crab the was part of the Kan no Mando (sp?) and there are
> pictures on the cover on some editions, of the crab.  Diagrams for the Crab
> ? No ! ! ! !   Oooh I hate it when that happens.
>
> I wonder if the crab is in the original text ?

Yes, there are diagrams for the Kan no Mando crab in the edition I have.
Actually, I think the diagrams are for a modified version.  But it is quite
interesting.  As I recall, it begins with a square with four incisions.
These incisions allow the crab to be folded in a relatively simple but elegant
manner.

                               ... Mark
          (Normally a "from one square folded without cutting or glue" man.
           Robert, what was that term in Japanese?)

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:15:13 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Abridged World of Origami

If there is anyone in the Boston area who owns the abridged version of
Honda's "World of Origami", I would be glad to get together with them
so that we could compare it to my first edition, so that we could
compile a list of the differences.

        -- jeannine mosely (j9@concentra.com)





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:16:37 -0400
From: Kristine Tomlinson <ktomlinson@platinum.com>
Subject: Re[2]: Abridged World of Origami

    Hi Jeannine, Brett, and others,

    Most of what was left out of the Abridged version where the older
    models from the Kan no mado (like the dragonfly -- 3 versions also what
    I was most interested in), models of traditional origami dolls, and
    several more exotic or more common animals (depending on your
    perspective).  I don't remember if the crab is in the
    original/abridged, but it is on the cover as you said.  The original
    had lots of stuff in the back using unusually-shaped paper, too.

    And yes, it is still available.

    Kristine
    ktomlinson@trinzic.com





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:51:48 -0400
From: lcmb@cochin.inserm.fr (Marc BRUCHACSEK)
Subject: ALO DORINHA

        Afinal de contas acabaste me achando no EMail-bis: "lcmb".

        Eu estava ficando louco recebendo aquilo tudo no normal para o
servico. Mas voce pode usar-lo. A diferenca e o meu nome "bruchacsek".
Esquisito nao e?

        Esperarei confirmacao da viagem.

        Um abraco do MARC

..............................................................................

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     _/      _/        _/        _/ _/ _/_/         CNRS UPR 415
    _/      _/        _/  _/_/  _/   _/ _/          22 rue Mechain
   _/      _/        _/    _/  _/      _/           75014 Paris France
_/_/_/_/  _/_/_/_/  _/_/_/_/  _/      _/      bruchacsek@icgm.cochin.inserm.fr

I n s t i t u t  C o c h i n   d e   G e n e t i q u e   M o l e c u l a i r e





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 15:48:48 -0400
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Looking for Neal Elias Model Diagrams....

The BOS still has a stock of the 3 booklets which are copies of the pages
from Neal Elias's notebooks. Right now they are on special offer - 10.00
UK pounds for the set of three (that's about 15.50 US dollars, postage on
top). I'm planning to buy a set at the BOS convention, next weekend. They
can be ordered from Martin Wall, BOS Supplies. email me directly if you
want an address.

Richard K.
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:00:34 -0400
From: jmarcoli@stratacom.com (John Marcolina)
Subject: Re: Re: Looking for flasher - not Brill's

Jerry Harris writes:

>>I was so excited when some one mentioned that Brill's Brilliant Origami
>>had the flasher in it, that I ran out and bought the book.

>Hi all -
>
>        I've been off the list for quite a while, and just resubscribed.  I
>haven't heard of this book; is it a BOS publication or is it a real book?
>If the latter, could someone provide a full citation (with ISBN)?  Thanks
>in advance!  8-)

Hi Jerry, welcome back. It's a real book, ISBN 0-87040-896-8. It's brand-new,
but I found a copy on the shelf at Kinokuniya (sp?) bookstore. It contains
quite a lot of models; I think someone gave a full write up recently, so you
might check the archives. It's about 240 pages, and I paid twenty dollars for
mine.

John Marcolina
jmarcolina@strata.com





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:14:10 -0400
From: Anne R LaVin <lavin@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Help - I bought Fuse's Spirals II in Japanese

On Thu, 21 Mar 1996 Laurie Reynolds (bastian@nis.net) wrote:

 >So.... I bought Fuse's second spiral book.   Well neither my friend nor
 >I can quite figure out the models on pages 58 - 67.  They are modular
 >skeletons of pyramids with spirals inside.  I am assuming that the
 >pyramid is made from the previous page diagrams, but aren't sure.

This is one Japanese origami book I don't have in my collection, yet,
or I'd offer to translate it for you right away...(I can generally
read enough Japanese to follow the directions in most origami books,
but not enough yet to read the long descriptions and mathematical
ramblings of folks like Kawahata.)

If you want, though, you can send me a copy of the page of book in
question (by fax or mail) and I can try to help.  Same goes for
anybody on the list, actually -- if I've got the book, I can try and
look it up for you, or send me the page and I'll translate that.

Gotta practice my Japanese reading somehow, might as well make it
useful!  :)

Anne LaVin
MIT Foreign Languages and Literatures
14N-238
Cambridge, MA 02138

(617) 258-7972  (fax)





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:18:14 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Looking for Neal Elias Model Diagrams....

>   Or, is there
> anyone from the B.O.S. who knows if there was ever a 2nd volume
> published (as promised by Dave Venables)?

There were two others - folds#2 & busts/faces. Both *should* be availabel
from BOS supplies. They have been out for years, so Dave Ven *did* deliver!

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:47:43 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Looking for Neal Elias Model Diagrams....

To Peggy Van Norman, regarding Neal Elias folds. I have all of the ones you
mention plus many more. I was fortunate enough to be given a spiral bound
book of Elias folds when I visited with Dave Venables in the early 80's -
If you are having problems locating diagrams, e-mail me direct and I will
get copies for you.

Laurie Bisman
lbisman@sirranet.co.nz

Hi everyone....I'm looking for diagrams of models by U.S. folder
Neal Elias.  I have the B.O.S. booklet "Selected Works:
1964-1973" but there aren't many Elias models in any of the
other books that I have.  I'm particularly interested in "Mother
Love" and "Michelangelo's Pieta" - I really like "The Last
Waltz" and his other models where two figures are folded from
one (though not always square) sheet of paper, and in general
his choice of subject matter is very intriguing.  Is there
anyone out there who would be willing to send me copies of Elias
diagrams, or who knows where I might find them?  Or, is there
anyone from the B.O.S. who knows if there was ever a 2nd volume
published (as promised by Dave Venables)?  Thanks....

Peggy Van Norman
ecz5peg@mvs.oac.ucla.edu





Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:04:49 -0400
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Re: Looking for flasher - not Brill's

>Hi Jerry, welcome back.

        Why, thank you!  8-)  And thanks to everyone who responded to my
posting -- I'm gonna try and see if I can order it locally.  I look forward
to seeing it!

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:10:03 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Abridged World of Origami

I have just gone to have a look at my copy of 'World of Origami' which was
purchased in the early 70's and it does have the crab on pages 231-233.

The book has 264 pages in all and I must say that it has brough back some
fond memories just flicking through the pages. I probably haven't looked at
it for  over 10 years.

Laurie Bisman
lbisman@sirranet.co.nz





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:11:14 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Abridged World of Origami

     Yes, there are diagrams for the Kan no Mando crab in the edition I
have.
Actually, I think the diagrams are for a modified version.  But it is quite
interesting.  As I recall, it begins with a square with four incisions.
These incisions allow the crab to be folded in a relatively simple but
elegant
manner.

yes, the effect of making an incision in each side, is that you virtually
have four squares each attached at one corner, you can then proceed to make
four birdbases which are used to make the completed crab.





Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:46:20 -0400
From: Kevin Thorne <c598033@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Looking for flasher - not Brill's

Could someone tell me what a flasher is exactly?  I haven't heard of any
origami by that name before.

On Fri, 22 Mar 1996 PenneyA@aol.com wrote:

> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 00:04:01 -0400
> From: PenneyA@aol.com
> To: Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Subject: Re: Looking for flasher - not Brill's
>
> I have a diagram of the flasher that I aquired through our Origami monthly
> meeting here in Ann Arbor.  But to tell the truth, if someone gave me only
> the diagram, there is no way I could fold it.  I learned to fold it by one of
> our members, this was probably 3 months ago.
>                            Penney





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 22:35:17 -0400
From: LEMIEUXJ@woods.uml.edu
Subject: World of Origami

>
> Does anyone know how much material was left out of the abridged "World
> of Origami"?  Why was it abridged?  Is the abridged version still in
> print?
>
>         -- jeannine mosely
>

Hi Jeannine,

I have multiple copies of both editions of the "World of Origami".
I originally purchased 10 copies from Japan Publications in 1966.
They sold for $9.50 at the time.

Your query prompted me to finally compare the two editions.

Bob
J. Robert A. Lemieux
lemieuxj@woods.uml.edu

The Results:

1965 Hard Cover Original  264 pages
1977 (3rd Printing) Paperback 182 pages

Missing from the paperback edition:
(Page numbers are from 1965 edition)
Pgs. 13 through 20, 8 pages of color photos.
Pg 29 Text remains, but Crane and Fat Crane drawings eliminated.
Pg 189 Sea Gull photo deleated.
Pages 201 through 262 eliminated.

Pg 201 Compound Figures (Equilaterial Triangular Paper)
pg 202 Eagle
Pg 204 Dragon
Pg 206 Rhombic Paper - Macaw
Pg 208 Bat
Pg 209 Quacking Duck
Pg 210 Demon Mask
Pg 211 Compound Figures (Rhombic Paper) Giraffe
Pg 214 See-no-evil, Hear-no-evil, Speak-no-evil
Pg 216 Alligator
Pg 218 Rhombus Constructions
Pg 220 Other Polygonal Paper - Chinese Bellflower
Pg 221 Azalea Blossom
Pg 222 Six Sided Ornament
Pg 224 Turtle Base
Pg 225 Turtle
Pg 226 Dragonfly
Pg 228 Octagonal Ornament
Pg 229 Specially Shaped Paper
         Double Crane
Pg 230 Crab
Pg 231 Photo of Crab
Pg 232 Crab
Pg 234 Original diagrams of Kan-no-Mado Crab & Frog
Pg 236 Dragonfly
Pg 238 Gibbon
Pg 240 Octopus
Pg 242 Costume Folds - Girls' Festival Dolls (Dairibina)
Pg 245 Photo of Dancer (Banzai-raku)
Pg 246 Dancer (Banzai-raku)
Pg 248 Old Man and Old Woman
Pg 251 The Ideal Modern Origami
Pg 252 Compound Origami witha Modern Touch
       Origami Dimensional Forms
Pg 253 Three photos - Chicken & Rooster, Fox & Crow,
            and Monkey on Horseback
Pg 254 Origami Dimensional Forms (cont.)
       Size and Thickness of Origami Paper
       The Yeas and Nays of Using Scissors
Pg 256 Independent Creativity - Standing Crane, Dog, Rose
Pg 258 Carnation, Locust, Baby Chick, Coyote
Pg 260 Photo of Demon Mask
Pg 261,2 Bibliographical Note





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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 23:21:45 -0400
From: Bill Hall <billhall@computek.net>
Subject: Re: World of Origami

Mordechai T. Abzug wrote:

> Which reminds me: does anyone know where I can get a copy of one of the 60s
> editions of World of Origami?  I've been hunting used bookstores for years, am
> now hitting every web-ified bookstore I can find, but I can only find the 70s
> edition.  The 70s edition *seems* to contain fewer pages. . .
>

My copy, which was printed in 1977, says it is "an abridged popular edition."
     It gives a
date of 1965 for the First Edition, and dates of 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970,
     1971, 1972, and
1973 for reprints. Then it lists August 1976, December 1976, and August 1977 as
     publishing dates
for the "popular edition." It does appear that editions starting with 1976 were
     abridged.

BTW, my edition contains 182 pages.

--
Bill Hall <billhall@computek.net> Dallas, Texas, USA
Where go the poet's lines? Answer, ye evening tapers!
Ye auburn locks, ye golden curls, Speak from your folded papers!
                     -- Oliver Wendell Holmes





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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 00:17:27 -0400
From: Bill Hall <billhall@computek.net>
Subject: Re: Abridged World of Origami

I have a photocopy of a book called, "A Japanese Paper-folding Classic," (The
     Pinecone Press,
Washington, D.C.) which is a copy of volume 233 of the Kan no mado made by Dr.
     Frederick Starr in
1922. It is 62 pages long, and contains 47 models. Some of the models have no
     instructions, and
the ones that do have instructions are very hard to follow.

The crab is included. It is folded from a square piece of paper with cuts
     starting at the center
of each side of the edge and extending half way to the center.

A very interesting book.

Brett wrote:
>
> At 04:06 PM 3/21/96 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >Does anyone know how much material was left out of the abridged "World
> >of Origami"?  Why was it abridged?  Is the abridged version still in
> >print?
> >
> >       -- jeannine mosely
>
> Don't know how much was left out but I know one of the things that was left
> out really hacked me off.  In the foward or introduction Honda talks about
> the traditional crab the was part of the Kan no Mando (sp?) and there are
> pictures on the cover on some editions, of the crab.  Diagrams for the Crab
> ? No ! ! ! !   Oooh I hate it when that happens.
>
> I wonder if the crab is in the original text ?

--
Bill Hall <billhall@computek.net> Dallas, Texas, USA
Where go the poet's lines? Answer, ye evening tapers!
Ye auburn locks, ye golden curls, Speak from your folded papers!
                     -- Oliver Wendell Holmes





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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 00:58:37 -0400
From: megazine@usa.net
Subject: Paper Airplanes

On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, S.Blackman queried:

>In a recent message, Karina Wright wrote about paper airplanes and this
>reminded me of a shareware programme that illustrates how to fold simple
>paper planes. The programme contains animated graphics sequences that
>show the paper being folded.
>Does anyone know of a similar origami programme and do you have any
>ideas on the type of software used to develop the graphical sequences?

In the latest issue of miniatura (3\2\96), we review "The Greatest Paper
Airplane" shareware program from KittyHawk Software, Inc.  including
a screen dump and URL.  In future issues of miniatura, we plan on reviewing
several other paper folding programs from KittyHawk Software.

Look for Issue No. 3\2\96 of miniatura: <http://www.p-pub.com>

Kathy Prochnow
Senior Editor
miniatura
MsKathy@p-pub.com





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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 10:26:49 -0400
From: Yan Lau <lau@wharton.upenn.edu>
Subject: Jackson's Step by Step Origami

Hello,

I found a _few_ copies of Paul Jackson's "Step by Step Origami" in a
bookstore.  The Origami Source says these are from "The Ultimate
Origami and Papercraft Book" (or something like that) but I don't
think it's true.  Actually, the models appear to be the ones in
"Make It with Paper".  Most of the models are simple and elegant.
The best model in the book is an incredible daffodil from a hexagon
shaped paper.

The catalog I got from the Source lists the book but crossed out.
Maybe it's no longer available?  The bookstore was selling it for
US$6.98.  Does anyone want me to help them buy a copy?  Factor in
tax at 7% and shipping cost.

Yan





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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 12:53:42 -0400
From: PamGotcher@aol.com
Subject: Charlotte, NC email address

Sorry, I made a mistake when posting Jonathan's address for information about
the Southeastern conference.  I gave the list what he gave me on the phone,
but in the email he just sent me I noticed that the address is

        web1641@charweb.org (Jonathan Baxter)

Thanks, Pam





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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:38:36 -0400
From: CThackeray@aol.com
Subject: Teaching

I've found children to be easier to teach than beginning adults. A good age
to start with is 8, tho younger ones can be taught, but is best on a one on
one basis. As a general rule I try to limit my classes to ten. It's sometimes
difficult to pace a class if you have a wide variance in skills. Each group
always seems to be different. You can encourage the faster ones to help the
slower ones. With kids you can sometimes have the parents join in (but then
sometimes the parents need help). The best advice I could give is, learn to
wing it. The most fun class I've ever taught was a group whose ages ranged
from 11 to 70. I really think it's better to mixed classes rather than by
age. That way the kids can help the adults.
Clare





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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:23:19 -0400
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Looking for Neal Elias Model Diagrams....

At 15:31 21/03/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi everyone....I'm looking for diagrams of models by U.S. folder
>Neal Elias.  I have the B.O.S. booklet "Selected Works:
>1964-1973" but there aren't many Elias models in any of the
>other books that I have.  I'm particularly interested in "Mother
>Love" and "Michelangelo's Pieta" - I really like "The Last
>Waltz" and his other models where two figures are folded from
>one (though not always square) sheet of paper, and in general
>his choice of subject matter is very intriguing.
>
The BOS booklet's nos. 334 35 and 36 contain Elias's own diagrams for about
100 of Neal's incredible models. I hvae just heard from David Venables and
he is planning to issue a CD disk with all of Neal's models on it. As you
know the BOS has always had immense regard for Elias, surely one of the
greatest innovators from the USA.
Neal has given the BOS permission to publish all of his models and Dave
Venables has the notebooks and acts as the editor in chief.

John.
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 17:17:29 -0400
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Teaching

>I've found children to be easier to teach than beginning adults.

        I think I'd agree with this statement in most circumstances,
although I think large groups of beginning adults are easier overall than a
large group of young children.  I've taught kids as young as kindergarten,
and adults as young as 80, and the techniques _do_ differ somewhat for
various age groups.  There are, however, a few universalities that come in
handy.

        Always fold a demo model along with the group -- that is, fold the
model with them!  Use a large piece of paper -- larger than the ones the
group has, usually -- with appropriate colors (usually light, but not
bright) so that fold lines and moves show up easily.  Ask them to put their
own models down while you demonstrate a step; that way, you can be sure
that you've got their attentions, which will minimize you having to repeat
yourself.  However, I usually find it's very handy to demonstrate a
particular move at least twice before encouraging them to pick up their own
models and perform the step.  After a period of time (during which you will
undoubtedly be walking around and assisting those who are having problems),
have everyone hold up their models so you can, at a glance, see if everyone
is both caught up and has performed the move properly ('cuz not everyone'll
ask for help if they need it!  8-)  )  Verbal encouragement and praise,
particularly after difficult moves, always boosts the egos of your
students, and will help keep their interest.  For more mature groups who
have been studying origami for a while, I've also found it's helpful at
certain points in more complex models to indicate where various features of
the finished model are going to emerge from the paper; this will help them
gain a deeper understanding of the folding process, and can eventually lead
them to a point where they can create their own models.

        With kids who have had minimal or no exposure to origami, I
_always_ pick _very_ simple models -- ones that have as few as possible
moderately difficult moves, such as reverse folds (thus, no flapping birds,
unless you've got a _lot_ of time on your hands).  I'm not necessarily into
"pureland" origami myself, but it's a good option.  A popular one I've done
many times is Rachel Katz's simple "Dinosaur" from an 8.5x11 piece of paper
-- technically, the model is 2 pieces of paper (the letter-size gets torn
into a square and the resultant strip) -- I've done this with
kindergarteners as well as groups of mixed age (young kids to adults), with
a 100% success (if not a 100% neatness) rate.  Most of the times I've
taught groups of kids, it's at an occasion with a thematic basis -- for
example, at museum member nights surrounding new exhibits, such as sea
life, I'll teach a simple sea horse or fish.  I also like to have several
other (thematically appropriate) models on display, so that people can see
what is possible with origami.  I also provide a bibliography of good and
easily obtainable origami books (broken down by complexity) and, if
possible, copies of the instructions for the model -- usually, I don't hand
those out until _after_ they've folded the model; that way, they don't work
ahead of the rest of the group, and you won't have what I've seen turn into
chaos!  8-)

> A good age
>to start with is 8, tho younger ones can be taught, but is best on a one on
>one basis.

        Again, I agree, but sometimes it isn't possible to govern what kind
of group you get (especially in open booth situations), so the techniques I
use are either universal or easily modified for a specific age group (for
example, adding a humorous "performing" aspect to groups of young kids will
help keep them from getting bored, and we all know how difficult it is to
get a young child to stay focused for lengthy periods!!!  ;-)  ).  I think
that kids as young as 3-4 can be taught some super-simple things,
especially if they're educationally advanced for their age.  I've done a
couple 4-5 year olds, but those were primarily on a 1-1 basis.

>As a general rule I try to limit my classes to ten. It's sometimes
>difficult to pace a class if you have a wide variance in skills.

        True...having a class of mixed ability is probably the biggest
challenge.  However, I've found that the more proficient folders are
generally very patient with the less practiced ones -- after all, every
advanced folder was once not-so-advanced!  8-)  In these situations, I
still have a very high success rate, and almost always, everyone goes home
with a completed (if somewhat messy) model.  Always tell them that
messiness is OK on their first try or three, and that they shouldn't get
discouraged.  Encourage them to try the model again on their own
(especially if you're giving out copies of the directions).  In such mixed
groups, I have often successfully taught people who couldn't do much more
than an inflatable frog on their own how to do some Montroll, Lang, Weiss,
Maekawa, etc. models.  They love it, too -- they're always quite amazed
(and proud) of themselves when they see their finished models!  That, in
and of itself, is probably the #1 thing that keeps 'em coming back!  8-)

>Each group
>always seems to be different. You can encourage the faster ones to help the
>slower ones. With kids you can sometimes have the parents join in (but then
>sometimes the parents need help).

        At the times where I've taught school groups, I like to get
together with the teacher (and whatever aides will be on hand) and teach
them the model before I teach the class -- that way, they're more able to
go 'round and provide assistance.  Obviously, this isn't always possible,
but if you can make such arrangements, it's an excellent idea!

        Hope this helps somewhat.  It is by no means a full account of the
techniques I use; frankly, I don't even know if I could put it all down for
anyone to read.  If anyone has further questions, though, I'd be happy to
try to answer them!

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:31:42 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: Looking for flasher - not Brill's

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> Could someone tell me what a flasher is exactly?  I haven't heard of
any
> origami by that name before.

Well, thr flashers I have seen are pleated in several directions, with
various other connecting folds, such that they collapse in upon
themselves when folded.  By pulling two opposite sides, the folds
spring open.  It is visually interesting in that the paper seems to
spring to a much larger size than expected if you initially only see
the collapsed model.

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:27:36 -0400
From: Mike Henderson <76003.3034@compuserve.com>
Subject: John Montroll

  Mr Montroll,

        At last year convention you  had classes on the models for your next
books. The  Chinese Zodiac one an also you had some money folds. Is the money
models going to published soon? Hope so, because i  love all your books.

                                                         Mike Henderson
                                                         Duncanville, TX
                                                         76003.3034@compuserve.c
     o
m





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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 12:20:11 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: teaching children

 The subject of teaching children can be refined some more.  I have no
 problems teaching my 11 year old grandson, but I couldn't keep a teen-
 ager's attention long enough to get him half way thru an F-14 by LaFosse.
 Maybe he was suffering from short-attention-span-syndrome?

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 13:20:40 -0400
From: jdharris@post.cis.smu.edu (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: teaching children

> The subject of teaching children can be refined some more.  I have no
> problems teaching my 11 year old grandson, but I couldn't keep a teen-
> ager's attention long enough to get him half way thru an F-14 by LaFosse.
> Maybe he was suffering from short-attention-span-syndrome?

        As with so many teenagers, whose attentions are directed not so
much by interest but by hormonal activity, you must appeal to the latter to
properly teach them models.  Try showing him Tony O'Hare's "Nude" --
that'll be something he'd like to learn!  ;-)  ;-)  ;-)

        8-)  My apologies to anyone who finds this bit of absurdity offensive...

Jerry D. Harris                       (214) 768-2750
Dept. of Geological Sciences          FAX:  (214) 768-2701
Southern Methodist University         jdharris@post.smu.edu
Box 750395                            (CompuServe:  73132,3372)
Dallas  TX  75275-0395

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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 13:59:27 -0400
From: Gretchen Klotz <gren@agora.rdrop.com>
Subject: Re: teaching children

On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, Jerry D. Harris wrote:

>         As with so many teenagers, whose attentions are directed not so
> much by interest but by hormonal activity, you must appeal to the latter to
> properly teach them models.  Try showing him Tony O'Hare's "Nude" --
> that'll be something he'd like to learn!  ;-)  ;-)  ;-)

This is sexist and inappropriate, not to mention an inaccurate assessment
of the reasons why teenagers don't pay attention.  You are recommending
using a model for pornography (the model itself may not be pornographic --
don't know as I've never seen it -- what I'm objecting to is how you want
to use it).  This is way out of line.

>         8-)  My apologies to anyone who finds this bit of absurdity
     offensive...

It is *not* absurd, I *am* offended, and I'll take it under advisement to
accept your apology.  I'm sure your mother or wife or daughter would not
find this amusing or absurd either.

This kind of sexism is an endemic problem in our culture, and I'm
stupefied to find it appearing on this list in such a blatant manner.  The
fact that you included an apology in your post implies an awareness of the
issues.  Next time, keep it to yourself.

- Gretchen





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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 14:57:06 -0400
From: Jeanine Meyer <MEYER@pacevm.dac.pace.edu>
Subject: Re: Teaching

The previous note reminded me of two things that Michael Shall
did when teaching:

Order everyone to put .. hands in ... lap!!! while
  demonstrating something.
Say "show me what I'm showing you."

As the previous writer indicated, these are very effective.
I find that telling people that I am following Michael's example
helps me to do it, and also is a way to honor his memory.





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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:01:20 -0400
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Origami Papers

Greetings -

Many of you have asked me to revise the structure of the pages for Origami
paper on my website.
Please take a few minutes and visit the site.  You can now search for papers
by size, prints, solids, foils, two-sided, or special selections.

I'd appreciate any constructive comments on the new format.  Let me know if
it's easier to find selections - and any ways I can improve on it further.

The URL is:  http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper

The book section will be next!

Thanks -
Bren Riesinger
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:02:39 -0400
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Michael LaFosse Video Tapes

This is a followup on the recent postings regarding Michael's tapes.  If
anyone is unfamiliar with these tapes, you can find a brief description on
them on the "Related Products" page of our website.  Michael doesn't have
email yet - but he promises to in the near future!

Thanks -
Bren
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- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper
