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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 23:23:11 -0400
From: Kevin Thorne <c598033@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: origami in a funny college essay!

=bH@mLbis>Y744onZOn Thu,tiv 7 Mar 1996, Eric Andersen wrote:
'uWB50/DbX#Sr@iph4SYQ{]fS
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:48:19 -0400
> From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Subject: origami in a funny college essay!
>
> I was surfing the web at UPenn and I found this essay written by a recent
> applicant. I apologize ahead of time for posting the whole essay, but if you
> read the first few paragraphs you'll really appreciate the line in the last
> paragraph about origami.
>
> The author of this essay, Hugh Gallagher, now attends NYU
>
> 3A. ESSAY
> IN ORDER FOR THE ADMISSIONS STAFF OF OUR COLLEGE TO GET TO KNOW
> YOU, THE APPLICANT, BETTER, WE ASK THAT YOU ANSWER THE FOLLOWING
> QUESTION: ARE THERE ANY SIGNIFICANT EXPERIENCES YOU HAVE HAD, OR
> ACCOMPLISHMENTS YOU HAVE REALIZED, THAT HAVE HELPED TO DEFINE YOU
> AS A PERSON?
>
> I am a dynamic figure, often seen scaling walls and crushing ice. I have
> been known to remodel train stations on my lunch breaks, making them more
> efficient in the area of heat retention. I translate ethnic slurs for Cuban
> refugees, I write award-winning operas, I manage time efficiently.
> Occasionally, I tread water for three days in a row.
>
> I woo women with my sensuous and godlike trombone playing, I can pilot
> bicycles up severe inclines with unflagging speed, and I cook Thirty-Minute
> Brownies in twenty minutes. I am an expert in stucco, a veteran in love, and
> an outlaw in Peru.
>
> Using only a hoe and a large glass of water, I once single-handedly defended
> a small village in the Amazon Basin from a horde of ferocious army ants. I
> play bluegrass cello, I was scouted by the Mets, I am the subject of
> numerous documentaries. When I'm bored, I build large suspension bridges in
> my yard. I enjoy urban hang gliding. On Wednesdays, after school, I repair
> electrical appliances free of charge.
>
> I am an abstract artist, a concrete analyst, and a ruthless bookie. Critics
> worldwide swoon over my original line of corduroy evening wear. I don't
> perspire. I am a private citizen, yet I receive fan mail. I have been caller
> number nine and have won the weekend passes. Last summer I toured New Jersey
> with a traveling centrifugal-force demonstration. I bat .400. My deft floral
> arrangements have earned me fame in international botany circles. Children
> trust me.
>
> I can hurl tennis rackets at small moving objects with deadly accuracy. I
> once read Paradise Lost, Moby Dick, and David Copperfield in one day and
> still had time to refurbish an entire dining room that evening. I know the
> exact location of every food item in the supermarket. I have performed
> several covert operations for the CIA. I sleep once a week; when I do sleep,
> I sleep in a chair. While on vacation in Canada, I successfully negotiated
> with a group of terrorists who had seized a small bakery. The laws of
> physics do not apply to me.
>
> I balance, I weave, I dodge, I frolic, and my bills are all paid. On
> weekends, to let off steam, I participate in full-contact origami. Years ago
> I discovered the meaning of life but forgot to write it down. I have made
> extraordinary four course meals using only a mouli and a toaster oven. I
> breed prizewinning clams. I have won bullfights in San Juan, cliff-diving
> competitions in Sri Lanka, and spelling bees at the Kremlin. I have played
> Hamlet, I have performed open-heart surgery, and I have spoken with Elvis.
>
> But I have not yet gone to college.
>
> ------------
>
> To let off steam, of course. That's why we all do it...
>
> -Eric  :-P
>
>
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>       /|\            \    /|\              More
>        / | \            \\ / | \ /7\          origami
>       /__|__\            \/__|__\/             ascii-art
>       \  |  /             \_/ \_/               to come...
>        \ | /             Flapping
>         \|/                bird
>          V                                            Eric Andersen
>      Bird Base           http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric/origami





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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 02:50:46 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re: cellophane "paper"

I found some thin cellophane already laminated to foil at a craft store - it's
the stuff that you put around potted plants or flowers... it works really
well!! It is relatively cheap (40 cents a foot or so and it is something like 18
inches wide). There are textures, and many different colors, including some
like red or blue with a gold swirled through it... very nice for dragons! The
foil gives it flexibility and the cellophane strangth (it is usually on the
inside - to keep water from seeping through)

Dee





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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 08:51:38 -0400
From: Rene Besamusca <renebe@knoware.nl>
Subject: Re: Digest

Don't forget to send this to the correct address;

listserver@nstn.ns.ca

At 13:28 9-03-96 -0400, you wrote:
>To get the digest form, send the command
>
>set origami-l mail digest
>
>Lise
>quintin@ra.isisnet.com in Nova Scotia, Canada
>
|--------------------------------------------|
| Rene Besamusca, Pagemaster for the O.S.N.  |
| E-mail (Pvt)  : renebe@knoware.nl          |





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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 12:37:32 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: "Origami from Angelfish to Zen" question....

Someone mentioned that "Folding the Universe", the first version of Peter
Engel's book published by Random House, had more introductory material than
the Dover version, "Origami from Angelfish to Zen"; however, I noticed on
the copyright page of my Dover copy the following text:

  "This Dover Edition, first published in 1994, is an unabridged,
repaginated republication of the work originally published by Vintage
Books, a divisiion of Random house, Inc., New York, in 1989 under the title
"Folding the Universe: Origami from Angelfish to Zen." The acknowledgments
and the biography of the author have been updated."

And my version does have about 80 pages of wonderful essays about....So
what is the scoop here? Did Dover publish an earlier edition that omitted
the introduction material and later "saw the light" and corrected their
erroneous publishing decision :->? The above text on their copyright page
seems quite explicit  that there is no significant textual difference
between "Folding the Universe" and the 1994 Dover book.

Hate to think I am missing out on an Engel essay,

pat slider.
slider@yosemite.net





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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 13:03:34 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Brilliant blinkers!

>  Brill said that we should "take off your blinkers". What are blinkers?
> Is this a British idiom?

Looks that way! It means "don't be narrow-minded" & derives from the
blinkers that horses wear when on street duty so they are not distracted by
cars etc.  Dave drummed that message into me many years ago & I can
recommend it as sound advice.

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 13:29:44 -0400
From: CM317@aol.com
Subject: Great new .ps + .eps viewer

I was snooping on the web today, and I came across a postscript viewer for
Win95.  When i downloaded it, and tried it out, I found it to be 800% better
than ghostscript.  The only drawback for this program, is that you need
Windows 95.

You may access it through my ftp @

ftp://members.aol.com/cm317/rops3243.zip

-Chris Miller (cm317@aol.com)





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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:45:00 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Clear 'Paper'

<<putting tiny pieces of coloured paper in the
model before inflating it>>

Try putting colored tissue paper inside the
translucent paper, its thin enough it doesn't
add to the bulk.

I've been thinking of spraying tissue with
acrylic pastel fix or something like that to
make it stiffer and increase its translucency.
Anybody tried that?

--valerie
Compuserve: Valerie Vann 75070,304
Internet: 75070.304@compuserve.com
Internet: valerivann@aol.com





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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:48:31 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Brilliant Origami

<<is 'blinkers' a British idiom>>

William, you made my day! Oh my oh my, now
I'm feeling ANCIENT, and for heavens sake I'm
only a teensy bit 'pre-WWII'!

However, I did sort of grow up in the 'sticks' of
California, and we even still had a 'ragman' with
a cart and horse, and yes the horse wore 'blinkers',
though it was so old and sedate, I doubt if it would
have noticed if the entire 4th of July celebration
had occurred right next to it...

(A 'ragman' served the function
now performed by some street people; he went around
and carted off whatever other folks threw out that
he though was too good for the dump - old clothes,
furniture, all sorts of things; kids loved him,
the cart was a treasure house).

Blinkers were commonly used on cart and carriage horses,
and in fact are still used (in a sort of cup-shaped
high-tech version) on some easily distracted race
horses.

'Take off the blinkers' means roughly 'wake up,
look around, smell the flowers, widen your horizons,
get a life'...

I don't recall exactly, but I think Brill was thinking
of squares (paper that is ;-) as he likes to design for
triangular and other less-common paper shapes)

Come to think of it, a ragman would make a neat model;
you could fill the cart up with all those not-so-hot
models you mean to re-work 'some day'...

--valerie
Compuserve: Valerie Vann 75070,304
Internet: 75070.304@compuserve.com
Internet: valerivann@aol.com





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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:51:28 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.COM>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: college essay w/origami

<<chain letters as urban legend>>

Chain letters have been around at least as long as
pyramid investment schemes, which were in Europe in
the 18th century if not earlier, so I'd imagine that
chain letters started there too, probably as soon as
mail got cheap enough to send 'mass mailings' to the
gulible.

Both chain letters and pyramid investment/franchise
schemes are illegal by the way, and the US PO takes
a very dim view of chain letters involving goods or
money (I suppose they ignore the ones about prayers
or novenas and such if they come to their attention
at all.)

Recently some police officers and sheriff deputies in
a nearby city got in hot water with a chain letter
fund-raising scheme - they thought it was 'different'
from the illegal sort. Red faces all over....

By the way, I believe there is an urban folklore newsgroup...

<<its the paper part that interests me>>
You weren't considering starting a chain letter as a source of
free origami paper were you?  :-)

--valerie





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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:54:19 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: RE: college essay w/origami

<<The author of this college essay was on Weekend Edition, a NPR show,>>

I may be a cynic, but I don't believe a word of it. I think this
'admissions essay' is much older than that. I suspect
NPR has been scammed... There is a guy who's made a career of
pulling fastones on the news media (some have been really
spectacular); I wonder if he's been at it again.

--valerie





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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:57:10 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: cellophane "paper"

I've tried some cellophanes and clear gift wraps,
as well as various thicknesses of overhead transparency
film (which comes in blue, green, yellow and red,
by the way), engineering draftng film, etc.

Most of the plastic films are too thick, split too
easily when folded sharply, or won't fold very well.
I have done some very simple modulars with the stuff
though. Traditional cellophane works OK for small
modular units. When picking a modular, look for one
with few layers, and a secure locking mechanism.

Translucent paper won't do for Brill's Bottle, of
course, but its very nice for tessellations and some
modulars. The light and shadow effect of the internal
structure can be quite interesting. Best paper is
a really good quality engineering drafting vellum,
those these have a high opacity except when a light
is behind them. But these papers are made to resist
tearing and 'scarring' form random creases, yet will
fold quite well. They're also usually 100% cotton
content and made to resist yellowing, so the models
have a longer life. Most will also accept marker pen,
watercolor and colored ink, and some can also be run
through a copier or laserjet printer.

--valerie
Compuserve: Valerie Vann 75070,304
Internet: 75070.304@compuserve.com
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:40:20 -0400
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: Fortune teller online...

Does anybody remember those fortune tellers that you used to make in
elementary school by blintz folding a square a couple of times and then
putting colors and numbers on the outside and "fortunes" on the inside?
Well, there's a Valentine fortune teller online at:

http://www.designsys.com/valentine/index.html

It even shows the hands moving the fortune teller! I don't know if I trust
these fortunes, though...mine said that I might one day become president of
Apple Corporation, and I'm a die-hard PC person!

-Eric  :-P

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         ^                   A
        /|\            \    /|\              More
       / | \            \\ / | \ /7\          origami
      /__|__\            \/__|__\/             ascii-art
      \  |  /             \_/ \_/               to come...
       \ | /             Flapping
        \|/                bird
         V                                            Eric Andersen
     Bird Base           http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric/origami





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 07:31:29 -0400
From: ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr (ciarlet mathieu)
Subject: contest

        Hi everyone,

Here are the results of the mini-contest I launched last week : only five
participants, and sorry no winner : I have received about a small hundred of
     ori-mails, and the smallest suggestion has been : 223. Actually I must
     admit
I thought I would have received more suggestions, but I don't mind afterall, it
had nothing to do with origami.

Au revoir.

Mathieu Ciarlet         ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr
http://www.dauphine.fr/~ciarlma6/
"May the fold be with you"





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:53:47 -0400
From: Tim Rueger <rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com>
Subject: Re: "Origami from Angelfish to Zen" question....

Hi, all,

As far as I can tell, everything in the first edition (Vintage) is in
the current edition published by Dover.

The main difference is that there has been a lot of re-formatting to cut
the page count down.  For example, the crease patterns for each of the
models are gathered in one place instead of shown with each model.

-Tim
--
Tim Rueger             Motorola CCRL IC Design Laboratory, IL02-2921
Fax  : (708) 538-4593  Internet: rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 11:49:15 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Digest

As someone else pointed out, this should be sent to
   listserver@nstn.ns.ca
Correct me if I am wrong, but it should be in the text of the message, right?
And the message can contain other things as well, but it's not worth the
trouble because the message is parsed automatically and never read by a
person.  Should anything particular be specified on the message subject
line?
                                             ... Mark
>
> To get the digest form, send the command
>
> set origami-l mail digest
>
> Lise
> quintin@ra.isisnet.com in Nova Scotia, Canada
>

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:10:08 -0400
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Subject: Re: Great new .ps + .eps viewer

At 01:31 PM 3/10/96 -0400, you wrote:
>I was snooping on the web today, and I came across a postscript viewer for
>Win95.  When i downloaded it, and tried it out, I found it to be 800% better
>than ghostscript.  The only drawback for this program, is that you need
>Windows 95.
>
>You may access it through my ftp @
>
>ftp://members.aol.com/cm317/rops3243.zip
>
>
>-Chris Miller (cm317@aol.com)
>

RoPS comes up with a 16-bit version too (MS-Win)
It only implements level-1 postscript.
And it is not free - Users are encouraged to register with the author
at a cost of 20 UKP (30 USD)

|-------------------------------------------------------\
|  _  Sy Chen <chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov>    |\
| |_| Folding Page http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm --\





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 14:17:45 -0400
From: Rene Besamusca <renebe@knoware.nl>
Subject: Re: Digest

At 11:49 11-03-96 -0400, you wrote:
>As someone else pointed out, this should be sent to
>   listserver@nstn.ns.ca

Yes, that was me, ;-)

>Correct me if I am wrong, but it should be in the text of the message, right?

100% correct

>And the message can contain other things as well, but it's not worth the
>trouble because the message is parsed automatically and never read by a
>person.

Also correct. Even worse, anything else which the 'parser' will not
understand could end up as error messages, so lieve out your signature block.

>Should anything particular be specified on the message subject
>line?
>                                             ... Mark

NO, (imho).

If anyone needs help, just send a message to the address shown above with
only the word HELP in your message body.

Regards,

|--------------------------------------------|
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 14:45:29 -0400
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: What does "IMHO" mean?

     Please forgive my ignorance.  I've noticed this on several messages
     recently (okay, at least two).  May I please have a translation?

     Thank you!

     - Jennifer (JAndre@cfipro.com)





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:08:24 -0400
From: Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com
Subject: Art & Math '96

First, am I right that the OUSA convention in NY is the weekend of June 29?

If that's right, then this might not conflict:

Art and Mathematics Conference
June 22-26, 1996
SUNY Albany

Saturday through Monday is lectures. A few highlights follow:
Dorothy Washburn,    The Perception of Symmetry
Benoit Mandelbrot,   The Art of Fractals
Martin Gloubitsky,   Symmetry and Chaos: Patterns on Average
Clement Meadmore,    The Geometry of Eloquence
John Horton Conway,  What Shape Are You Into?
Margit Echols,       Geometry and the Quilt Maker

Tuesday and Wednesday are teacher workshops.
On Tuesday, Margit Echols is doing patterns with compass and
straightedge and rubber stamps. On Wednesday,  various people
are doing knots, dynamic symmetry, and polyhedra.(The person
doing the polyhedra was using dowels and rubber tubing last
year. I assume he is still using the same media.)

My testimonial:
This is an opportunity to get together with a great group of people
who are fanatics about the intersection between math and art.
Even when the lectures are iffy, the discussions in the hall, at
dinner, in the hotel or dorms will make you feel like you have
finally met people who are just like you. (Assuming that if you
are still reading, you are into geometry, polyhedra, shapes, and
art.) The mathematicians who attend have been complaining a
little bit the last two years that the talks have strayed too far
into the fine arts, which may still be the case, but the community
of the weekend more than makes up for it.

The dirty details:
Registration fee $35/day if you register before May 25. $45/day later.
For registration material and a list of speakers, contact Nat Friedman
at (518) 442-4621 (office) OR artmath@math.albany.edu OR
Dept of Math
Univ. at Albany SUNY
1400 Washington Ave.
Albany, NY  12222

I was not planning to attend this year, because I want to go to NY. If
the two events are indeed on consecutive weekends, I might go to
just Sat-Mon of A&M, and still go to NY.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:40:54 -0400
From: sarah@abel.math.umu.se (Sarah Goodall)
Subject: Re: What does "IMHO" mean?

IMHO = In my humble opinion.

Sarah





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:04:21 -0400
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Brilliant Origami and blinkers

'blinders' means something different to the english than 'blinkers'.
Sports commentators will speak of a sprinter as running an absolute
BLINDER (= very fast). It is quite widely used in this context.

Richard K.





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:12:59 -0400
From: Karina Wright <karina@fred.net>
Subject: Re: What does "IMHO" mean?

At 03:42 PM 3/11/96 -0400, you wrote:

>
>IMHO = In my humble opinion.
>

Or IMHO = In My Honest Opinion

ttfn/Karina

e-mail:karina@fred.net
Cafe Karina BBS 301-662-9134
Ventriloquism Home Page: hhtp://www.fred.net/karina/vent.html
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:18:38 -0400
From: "Ashley G. Perrien" <perr2232@kutztown.edu>
Subject: Re: What does "IMHO" mean?

> IMHO = In my humble opinion.
>
I've also heard it as "In My Honest Opinion."

I know the above is off topic for the list but there's always time for
'net education.

AshleyP





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:24:41 -0400
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: A humble "Thank you"

     Thank you, to all of you kind people who have educated me today about
     this neat little "IMHO" thing!  NOW I get it!  :-)





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:57:00 -0400
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Origami USA Supplies

Could someone clarify.
on my copy of the ORIUSA supplies list there is a Kawahata Dino book listed.

is it the Kyo Ryu No Origami 1 listed on the Origami Tanteidan Page, under
Kawahata ?  ?

Looks nice if the two are the same I am a gonna' git it.

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net
Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 18:45:53 -0400
From: Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com
Subject: ROTFL re ;-p [was Re: IMHO]

In case you are wondering about *other* acronyms and alternative
smilies, check out these URLs:

Acronyms: http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~up1j/acronyms.html

Smilies: http://pantheon.cis.yale.edu/~nhaven2/smilies.html

(ROTFL -> Rolling On The Floor Laughing
 ;-p   -> winking & sticking out my tongue
  ->   -> implies)

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 19:17:33 -0400
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: A request

Greetings fellow paperfolders!!
        I received a request from someone over the net to post this in my
web page, but since I don't know how many people actually visited my web
page, I told him that I would post it in origami-l.

Here is the e-mail that he sent me:

> Hello, my name is Rocco Martinez and this April 20th I will be getting
> married. I am writing to you in hope that you can assist me with a very
> special request. I would ask for you to help me obtain 1,000 origami cranes
> for my wedding. Would you mind putting a one paragraph sentence on your home
> page asking interested viewers to please mail me one origami crane...I think
> my fiancee who is a Japanese National (her name is Miwa) would really be
> moved and pleasantly surprised to see so many cranes decorating the tables at
> our reception. She doesn't know I'm doing this so I hope it can remain a
> surprise. Thank you for your kindness. AustinRock@Aol.com      :)
>
> my address is:
> Rocco Martinez
> PO Box 19482
> Austin, Texas 78760
>

I, myself, am going to send him several cranes.

Cheers,
Yusri





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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 19:19:17 -0400
From: LarryFinch@aol.com
Subject: Re: What does "IMHO" mean?

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion

Larry Finch
larry@jyacc.com
larryfinch@aol.com





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 00:04:31 -0400
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Folding and Space Travel.

Attempting to get a fix of Star Trek Voyager this evening, I tuned into UPN
at 8pm only to find a Special Presentation of "Star Command" (I think that
was the name).  Interesting drama, but way too long, even with commercials
padding it out.  Anyways, somehow, folding matter or space was used to effect
Faster Than Light travel.  I don't recall the technobabble solution they
provided.  The dialogue was hokey, but with lines like:
        Ensign FooBar, Prepare to Fold!
or:
        Sir, an XYZ ship just unfolded at coordinates blah blah blah...
or:
        Be on board by 22 hundred hours.  We fold at 2215.

How could I not watch?

-Doug





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 00:23:35 -0400
From: Iron Will Dawes <wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: Lang's butterfly

  First, I should thank the many, many, many, many people who
responded and told me what "blinkers" were. Thanks!
  I have a more origami-related question. I have been working on the
butterfly from Lang's and Weiss' "Origami Zoo" and am unable to get
step 9 to work. When I fold up the left point of the diamond, I have
several layers trapped behind the point which aren't shown in the
diagrams. Also, since everything was reverse folded previously, no
layers "swing out" like they're supposed to, as all flaps are
connected to the points. Can anyone please shed some light on this?
                              -Will(wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu)





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 01:58:57 -0400
From: Michael Adcock <adcock@Menudo.UH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Folding and Space Travel.

>
> ... Special Presentation of "Star Command"
> ... The dialogue was hokey, but with lines like:
>       Ensign FooBar, Prepare to Fold!
> or:
>       Sir, an XYZ ship just unfolded at coordinates blah blah blah...
> or:
>       Be on board by 22 hundred hours.  We fold at 2215.
>
>
> How could I not watch?
>
> -Doug
>

I saw it too. I agree about the length, but the effects were great, and the
story not too bad. All I can say is I'm glad it wasn't a pilot for a series...

I don't suppose anyone taped the show? I hadn't thought about it until I read
Doug's message, but those sound clips might be useful on someone's desktop,
or as sound replacements in a game... I wouldn't mind getting a copy of
those clips... :)

As for the logic -- doesn't Star Trek claim that their warp drives 'fold'
space-time or 'subspace' or something? I suppose if you can't break the
lightspeed barrier, you just have to fold space in upon itself and go from
point A to point B across a sink fold or something... :)

Sorry if this chatter doesn't belong here...

Michael

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Michael Adcock (a.k.a. Blackadder)
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 02:04:55 -0400
From: Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@uh.edu>
Subject: Paper for Kawahata's dinosaurs

I have a copy of Origami Fantasy by Kawahata and am ready to start folding
but one thing that I haven't seen in the (very, very) rough translation
I've been making is any idea of what size paper to use.  My goal is to make
dioramas to give to my dino-loving friends for christmas but in order to
get an idea of how large of a piece of paper to start with I have to fold a
test case first.  When each model takes me a week to fold, I begin to
wonder if I can finish before my deadline.  Does anyone have any
measurements of final model size for a given size square?

Also, I was planning to fold from thin gift wrap because of the extreme
complexity of the models but the photos in the book all seem to be of
dry-folded models made from heavy paper.  What has everyone else been
folding these from?

Thanks,
--
      Jason L. Tibbitts III - tibbs@uh.edu - 713/743-8684 - 221SR1
System Manager:  University of Houston High Performance Computing Center
                1994 PC800 "Kuroneko"      DoD# 1723





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 02:55:34 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Web Page Announcement

I've got my Origami Web Page up at last; its a bit
crude, but mostly works.
Comments and Feedback appreciated!

http://users.aol.com/valerivann/index.html

--valerie
Compuserve: Valerie Vann 75070,304
Internet: 75070.304@compuserve.com
Internet: valerivann@aol.com
WWW: http://users.aol.com/valerivann/index.html





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 03:41:02 -0400
From: kevin !! <prank@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Cellophane paper results (short version, but not really)

Hello, everyone(!!)

        I spent the weekend going to various places and collecting
different types clear plastic paper.

What I tried:
        3 mil acetate, 5 mil acetate, 2 mil mylar, 5 mil mylar, flattened
Doritos bag, different types of overhead transparency paper, different
types of cellophane gift wrap, florists' bouquet wrap, See's Candy
cellophane wrap, and shrink wrap from a laserdisc.

What I liked:
        Transparency paper: AF-4300 from 3M.
        Cellophane Gift Wrap: Hallmark gift wrap, colored cellophane.

        I picked the two types above because they worked and I am
assuming that they are readily available everywhere, at least
in the US, in almost any stationery shop (I did _not_ get the gift wrap
at Hallmark even, but a random stationery store on University Ave in Palo
Alto.)  I will describe them further in just a second, but...

First some notes about what I folded:
        I folded Brill's bottle with each of my samples, as well as a few
geometrics with the samples I though were promising but did
not work too well for Brill's bottle.
        With the bottle, I pre-creased every major crease, since the
folds on the cellophane were not as distinct as folds on paper.  With the
transparency paper this was not a problem at all, but it is easier to
simply refold on a pre-crease than to try to create the folds while
actually forming the model.  In fact, Brilliant Origami omits some
pre-creases that Origami For the Connoisseur has: in step 8 in OFtC there
are pre-creases for the top of the bottle.  _These crease are _very_
helpful_.  In fact, add 3 mirror-image small diagonal creases on the
appropriate places on the other side of the bottle (did that make any
sense?  I hope people know what I am talking about, but feel
free to ask...)
        Also, the pictures in both OFtC (step 9') and BO (step 7) show
the top flap on the right side overlapping the flap on the left.  I found
that if you reverse which flap, thus which face of the bottle, is on top,
the top of the bottle locks better, as long as you follow the handedness
of the lock as described in the rest of the steps.  This is important to
take into account when using stiff cellophane that doesn't want to stay
as flat as the cellophane I suggest.

Descriptions of the ones I liked:

Transparency paper (overhead transparencies):
        There are many different types of transparency paper, which is
why I gave the exact type of transparency paper I liked.  Most
transparency sheets are kinda thick, but they hold a crease very well,
which kinda got my hopes up.  Kinda.  AF-4300 transparencies feel very
flimsy compared to others, but it is the thinness which makes it so
perfect.  It holds a crease extremely well and is thin enough to allow
you to fold multiple layers easily, which the thicker transparencies do
not.  AF-4300 results in a very sturdy, very firm Brill bottle, almost as
if it were made of plastic...

Sizes:  The drawback is that it seems to only come in 8.5" x 11" sheets,
which limits you to 8.5" squares.  But that is a pretty good size for
most models...

Colors: A stationery store I went not only had the clear sheets, but they
also had transparencies in red, green, blue, yellow, and orange.  Get the
thinner sheets, not the thick ones, or the ones for use as report covers.

Cost:   about $0.40 per sheet (That's really expensive if you ask me.
You didn't, but that's what I would have told you if you had.  But you
didn't.)  I don't know how much the colored ones cost, because I saw the
cost of the clear sheets and fainted.  I got my sample sheets from old
presentations (they don't even have to be yours, but you should really
ask first...) in my department at school, so don't ever let your
department secretary throw any out!  I went to check out the stationery
store so I could get my own personal supply, but I think I'll stick to
wiping clean used transparencies...

Hallmark Cellophane Gift Wrap:
        There are many different types of gift wrap, too.  In fact,
almost every place I went to had a different type of cellophane gift wrap
from a different company.  The Hallmark wrap feels _very_ flimsy at
first, but it holds a fold reasonably well and Brill's bottle comes out
perfectly.  It is a bit slippery, and it can stretch if you crease it too
hard, but if you just fold it with "mere" "firm" creases it works fine.
You have to treat the model delicately as you are putting it together,
but once you've finished the top of the bottle and square the sides, it
feels relatively sturdy, though you still have to be careful.

Sizes:  Hallmark stationery (by the way, the stationery store I went to
was _not_ Hallmark, but it sold their wrap.  Go figure.) cellophane comes
in 2.5 feet x 2 yard rolls (15 sq ft).
        There is a narrower roll available as well, but I didn't look at
it as closely.  It looked about half as wide, and I don't know about the
length.

Colors: There are several colors available: amber (yellow), red, and
green.  I didn't see any other colors, but don't let my experiences limit
your search...

Cost:   The roll I bought had $2.10 printed on the label, so it seems
like a fixed price unless you get it on sale.  Other gift wraps sold for
between $1.50 to $4.00 for sizes of anywhere from (18" x 5 feet) to (30"
x 10 feet).

        I'll have a list of other materials tomorrow.  The cool thing
about getting the green cellophane wrap:  Since St. Patrick's Day is
coming up, I made two green bottles and put two shamrocks folded from
white paper inside.  I think they would make good gifts.  =)

--Kevin





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:35:27 -0400
From: ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr (ciarlet mathieu)
Subject: living on origami

Does anybody know how many people live out of making, creating origami aso ?
I was just wondering if it's possible to become a "professionnal", my studies
becoming so boring from time to time.

Thanks for your answers.

bye,
Mathieu Ciarlet         ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr
http://www.dauphine.fr/~ciarlma6/
"May the fold be with you"





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:32:30 -0400
From: David Holmes <cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk>
Subject: British weather !

It's cold, it's snowing and I've just had to cycle into university.

Not really origami related, but the daffodils which I folded a few
weeks ago were looking a little out of place this morning.

David M Holmes                  cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
British Origami Society        Association of C & C++ Users
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/       (in development)





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:44:48 -0400
From: Iron Will Dawes <wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Paper for Kawahata's dinosaurs

Jason-
  I have been using 8.5" x 8.5" squares of Xerox 4200 DP 20 lb. paper
for all of the models from Kawahata-san's book. The less intricate
models such as the Triceratops (or "Trikeratops", as the book refers
particularly tricky designs (the Tyrannosaur's or Allosaur's teeth,
for example) are coming out a little smaller, but still relatively
well-proportioned. Ordinarily, this paper is too thick for models with
scores of steps. For some reason, I've found that thick paper works
well with Kawahata-san's designs.
                              -Will(wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu)





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:48:52 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Paper for Kawahata's dinosaurs

Jason Tibbitts writes:

   I have a copy of Origami Fantasy by Kawahata and am ready to start folding
   but one thing that I haven't seen in the (very, very) rough translation
   I've been making is any idea of what size paper to use.

I wondered this myself, but then I noticed that next to each of the
models was a notation in Roman characters indicating the size.  Most
of them are marked at around 15-30 meters.  This seems reasonable. ;-)

        -- jeannine (still intimidated by this book) mosely





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:04:28 -0400
From: Paul Slater <P.Slater@swansea.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: harbin 1-4 in hebrew

Hello!,

Are the Harbin books readilt available in a book shop?, I have a
possible conetion with a physic's professor in Tel Aviv University,
who might be going to a conference which might enough other
contections from a friends mothers work, who then might be coming
back to G.B.

Confused, me too. I hope there are still copys left!

Paul.





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:51:14 -0400
From: cher@camis.stanford.edu (danny cher)
Subject: Re: Paper for Kawahata's dinosaurs

>Jason Tibbitts writes:
>
>   I have a copy of Origami Fantasy by Kawahata and am ready to start folding
>   but one thing that I haven't seen in the (very, very) rough translation
>   I've been making is any idea of what size paper to use.
>
>I wondered this myself, but then I noticed that next to each of the
>models was a notation in Roman characters indicating the size.  Most
>of them are marked at around 15-30 meters.  This seems reasonable. ;-)
>
>        -- jeannine (still intimidated by this book) mosely

Could you send me the reference for this book?  That is, title, publisher,
year, full author name, etc.  It looks interesting.

Danny





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 14:05:57 -0400
From: Kristine Tomlinson <ktomlinson@platinum.com>
Subject: Re: Folding and Space Travel.

    Hi Doug and others,

    > Ensign FooBar, Prepare to Fold!
    >or:
    > Sir, an XYZ ship just unfolded at coordinates blah blah blah...
    >or:
    > Be on board by 22 hundred hours.  We fold at 2215.

    I too was in search of Star Trek, but Star Command didn't hold my
    interest to get to the folding part.  Anyway, reading your note
    reminded me of a luncheon my coworkers and I had in a hole-in-the-wall
    (but tasty) fish joint.  We were in corporate garb and way out of
    place.

    My coworker starts pulling up the checked table cloth explaining how
    worm holes can be used for space/time travel by folding the cloth and
    lining up different lines with each other.  The whole place was turned
    around in their seats gawking and didn't stop until we left!  It was
    hysterical.  As you might imagine that got me off on a comparison to
    origami and "Folding the Universe" (what a great book title!).

    So, does the captain on Star Command have a "folding chair"?  :-)

    Kristine





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:37:57 -0400
From: kevin !! <prank@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Cellophane paper: verbose results.

Hello, everyone, again,

        Here are the long-winded results.

        Notes on cellophane paper in general, then specifically on
Brill's bottle: (otherwise known as the list of "it's obvious!"
observations)
        The sturdier the cellophane the harder it is to fold
multiple layers.  As long as the cellophane held a crease fairly
well, meaning that when a sheet was folded in half there was not
too much "spring" tension which wanted to unfold the paper flat
(does not hold a crease well) or so much tension that it was hard
to unfold a crease flat even if you wanted to.  And even if the
sample of cellophane you have holds a crease well, you should
really consider how many layers thick you will have to fold while
making the model.  And if it doesn't hold a crease all that well,
consider how well the model you are going to make locks.
        Brill's bottle is good because it has only 90 degree
creases for the body, and any 180 degree creases at the top and
bottom of the bottle can be locked by folding the edges over.
        Brill's bottle is bad because the top of the bottle can
get really thick really quickly.  At this point I prefer thin thin
thin paper which does not hold a fold all that well over thicker
paper which holds a fold better.  The standard bottom closure
worked pretty well regardless of the type of cellophane I used,
although it was often hard to do the fold down the edges step.
The lock for the top of the bottle does not work if either the
paper does not hold a fold or is too thick.  I prefer thinner
paper because the mouth of the bottle is easily the thickest part
of the model and to lock it better I could often just fold down
the edges, as per the bottom.  This made for a bottle with a
shorter neck, but it looked just as nice.  And it held.
        I don't know if the prices I quote are expensive, since I
am just getting material, not doing a cost comparison (any
volunteers?).

What I have tried, and their results:

clear acetate
where to get:   TAP Plastics, maybe larger hardware stores.  It is
                often used as window covering (so I am told).
sizes:          available in 3, 5 and 7 mil thicknesses from TAP.
                I only got the 3 and 5 mil sheets, as 7 mil felt
                thick.  TAP sells both 24" and 60" wide sheets by
                lineal foot (it comes off of rolls of the given
                width, you just determine length).
cost:           about $4 per square meter from TAP.
colors:         comes in a few "colors" (like a semi-mirrored
                silver, and a transluscent bronze).
result:         Excellent to fold, holds a crease perfectly, but
                subject to cracking.
verbose:        Holds a crease very well, but is bad if your model
needs lots of precreasing.  This was my favorite plastic to fold,
up until I had to reverse a fold and the crease cracked.  Not
_all_ of the creases cracked, just the ones I bent back and forth
more than, say, once or twice.  For precreases, you can actually
mark on the sheet with dry-erase marker and wipe it off when
you've made the real folds.  Fairly stiff and rigid model when
finished.  The edges (corners) are sharp!  The thicker acetate
would sometimes break at the first fold.  Brill's bottle was
relatively easy to fold with this, but some of my extra sharp
creases (on the sides and at the mouth) split.  I must admit that
they split perfectly, however.  I was still able to finish the
entire bottle, although the mouth doesn't lock very well the way
Brill suggests you finish it.  But there is more than one way to
wear it if the shoe fits.

clear mylar
where to get:   TAP, again.  However, acetate and mylar are the
                only two "paper-like" plastics TAP sells that hold
                a crease.  The rest are much more like vinyl.
sizes:          Same sizes as the acetate described above.  But
                there was a 2 mil thickness instead of a 3 mil.
                Go figure.  I got the 2 mil and the 5 mil.
colors:         Once again the colors seemed to be limited to the
                transluscent metallic "colors."
result:         Good for simple models with few layers of papers.
                Mylar is sturdy enough to make larger models,
                which downscales the thickness problem.  A 2-foot
                square results in a bottle a little taller than 1
                foot.
verbose:        The mylar was a joy to fold... if that's all you
wanted to do.  Creases were permanent, without the added benefit
of remaining flat.  A valley fold on a single layer of mylar was
excellent and I had high hopes initially, but as soon as the
bottle started going together and the layers started adding up...
Brill's bottle was easy going up until having to make the mouth of
the bottle.  At that point, the mylar got really thick (several
layers which were then pleated (!!)) and none of those folds
wanted to stay put.  I finally got the mouth formed (after _much_
work; the mylar is not only stiff, but if the folds on multiple
layers don't ovelap well it just doesn't want to stay folded.
Maybe I should have just clamped the layers overnight...) and
paper-clipped the sides to keep it fixed.  Don't even try the
locking step on the side of the mouth with twice as many layers as
the other side.  The bottom went well, although I had trouble
folding in the bottom edges.
        Do-able, but I don't really know how I am going to
permanently close the top.  I tried folding down the top edges to
lock it like we do the bottom, but the mylar is just really thick
and wants to spread out somewhere between a flat fold and fully
open.  I keep thinking, "if only I had thinner mylar..."
        Geometrics worked very well, however.  I started with a
tetrahedron and then Fujimoto's cube.  Wonderful, and you can see
how all the layers add up.  The cube is especially neat because it
has all clear faces and there are no extra creases apparent.  The
tetrahedron went together well, but the end result looked very
messy because not only were there creases on some of the faces
(unless you just marked them), but you could see all the flaps
inside which should be hidden.
        I don't have enough to make a large modular, but I intend
to make one same-size modular piece with each of the clear
"papers" I get and put together a patchwork polyhedron.  The mylar
is good and stiff and should hold up rather well.
        Far from being slippery, the mylar had this mysterious
tendency to "stick" to itself.  This wasn't really a problem and
may actually be a reason the geometrics hold together so well.

florists' bouquet wrap (the same as See's Candy wrap apparently)
where to get:   Any flower shop should have it, but they tend to
                charge arbitrary amounts.  The florist I got mine
                from just gave me a 2 sq ft sample when she heard
                that's all I needed, but one florist wanted to
                sell it to me for a buck per lineal yard.
sizes:          This also comes in 24" wide rolls.
colors:         Mostly clear, but some florists have some
                quantities of red, blue and green.  But they
                wouldn't sell it and they wouldn't give it away.
                I considered asking for a bouquet of cellophane
                paper rolls wrapped in clear wrap, but I don't
                think (and that's my problem) that the place I
                went to would have been open to the request...
result:         Only for models that have few folds and lock well,
                as the wrap wants to open out again.
verbose:        More do-able than the mylar, but it wants to come
apart more.  It is also very flimsy.  I folded a Brill bottle on
the spot for the florist who gave me the sample, but I had to use
a full 2 ft x 2 ft square, and I had to do it on their marble
table.  It was glossy paper on a patterned table which also had a
glossy surface.  I couldn't even _see_ the paper from some
angles(!!).  I was able to come up with a complete bottle, albeit
a very flimsy one.  I folded from a 1 foot square at home and that
went much better.
        All the creases want to unfold unless you _really_ deform
the plastic with a _tight_ crease.  Even then book folds, where
the paper is folded on top of itself creating a 180 degree fold
(does this description make any sense?) do _not_ want to stay
flat.  Folding more than one layer at a time was also a big pain
(I didn't actually do it successfully without preceasing each
layer first).  The bottle was fortunate in that most of the folds
where only 90 degrees (does _that_ make any sense?) and the folds
that were greater than that where locked in place by the "folding
the sides down" step which locks the bottom.  The folds which
should have locked the top did not hold, so I just repeated the
"fold down the sides" fold at the top to finish the bottle.  This
made the top of the bottle relatively thick, and the folds could
not be made very tight at all, but it held.
        And the paper was slippery too.

shrink-wrap
where to get:   Office supply stores.  Or buy a laserdisc, open
                the shrink wrap carefully at the edge, and then
                you have two 1 foot squares, albeit with wrinkled
                edges and occasional holes.  This gives you a
                larger "clean" surface area to work with than if
                you get the shrink wrap from software packages.
sizes:          come in 13", 16" or 18" rolls for home machines.
colors:         Just clear, as far as I know.
cost:           Hundreds of dollars for full rolls (I don't know
                anyone who will sell you small amounts) or about
                $20 per square foot (that is half the price of
                your average laserdisc, which gives you about 2
                square feet).  Note: many foreign laserdiscs
                are sealed using heavier quality plastic.  It
                could be impulse sealed instead of shrink-wrapped,
                but that still doesn't justify the higher cost of
                foreign discs...  This type of shrink wrap folds
                just as poorly as the regular kind.
result:         Don't use shrink-wrap.
verbose:        Don't use shrink-wrap.  Doesn't fold, doesn't
crease, doesn't even crumble up well.  And saran wrap makes a
better twisted flower.  But don't use saran wrap either.  What was
I thinking?!?

Opened-out Doritos bag
where to get:   market, etc.
sizes:          snack size, 9oz, 16oz, others...
colors:         lots of variety, but not really
cost:           varies with size and sales, but around $1 for a 1
                foot square.  This includes chips as well.
result:         Even though this paper is more crinkly than
florists' wrap, they hold a crease similarly.  The end result of
the chip bag bottle locked just as well as the florists' wrap
bottle, although the edges were sharper and it felt sturdier.  It
makes for some interesting bottles, especially since the clear
"window" in the original bag often creates a clear window on the
bottle.  To close the top I folded the edges down.  The tendency
of the multiple layers of plastic to unfold slightly deforms the
top, but a sturdy cap helps it hold its shape.

        That's it (for now).  If I find anything else that is
_really_ good I'll make a note of it.  If anyone is curious how
all these bottles came out, send me private e-mail and I will make
some JPEGs.

--Kevin





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 19:09:49 -0400
From: Karina Wright <karina@fred.net>
Subject: Re: Paper for Kawahata's dinosaurs

At 11:51 AM 3/12/96 -0400, you wrote:

>I wondered this myself, but then I noticed that next to each of the
>models was a notation in Roman characters indicating the size.  Most
>of them are marked at around 15-30 meters.  This seems reasonable. ;-)

Meters?  Are you sure?  15-30 meters is way bigger than my house. <grin>

ttfn/Karina

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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 19:39:35 -0400
From: Patrick Antouly <100332.1710@compuserve.com>
Subject: Bonjour

Hi everybody,

I'm new to Origami (and to this mailing list) and I have some little questions.
You are all speaking about models you find in books, but isn't it possible to
find diagrams on CompuServe or Internet ?
What are the most important books to buy ? Can I find these books in France or
where if not ?

Patrick





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 20:36:09 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: Folding and Space Travel.

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> Attempting to get a fix of Star Trek Voyager this evening, I tuned
into
> UPN at 8pm only to find a Special Presentation of "Star Command" (I
think
> that was the name).  Interesting drama, but way too long, even with
> commercials padding it out.  Anyways, somehow, folding matter or
space was
> used to effect Faster Than Light travel.  I don't recall the
technobabble
> solution they  provided.

I remember reading a book called _A Wrinkle in Time_ when I was young
that had the featured the characters traveling via tesseract.  One of
the "witches" folded the hem of her dress to explain about folding
space/time to enable the trips.  Seems like this idea has used in
fiction for a while.

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 20:40:22 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.COM (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: Bonjour

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> I'm new to Origami (and to this mailing list) and I have some littl=
e
> questions.
> You are all speaking about models you find in books, but isn't it
possible
> to
> find diagrams on CompuServe or Internet ?
> What are the most important books to buy ? Can I find these books i=
n
> France or
> where if not ?

Patrick,

You might want to try some of the following WEB sites for origami
related information. =20

ORIGAMI WEB SITES
-----------------
Fascinating Folds http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper  (Origami
paper and supplies)
Joseph Wu http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (lots of links
to other sites)
Origami-l Archive ftp://rugcis.rug.nl/
Bob Shuster http://www.netaxs.com/~rshuster/origami.html (lots of lin=
ks
to other sites)
            http://www.newtech.net/webwerks/hotori.html
            http://www.newtech.net/webwerks/origami.html
Renderings of all the uniform polyhedra http:
//www.inf.ethz.ch/department/TI/rm/unipoly/
Jim Plank  plank@cs.utk.edu http://www.cs.utk.edu/~plank
Gretchen Klotz http://www.ogi.edu/~gren/cranes.html and http:
//www.ogi.edu/~gren/origami.html
http://www.csi.ad.jp/suzuhari-es/1000cranes/
Sy Chen <sychen@enh.nist.gov> http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm
Andrew P. Anselmo http://thermsa.eng.sunysb.edu/~anselmo/origami.html
Alex Barber http://www.nol.net/~barber
            http://www.printnet.com/abarber/barber.html
Eric Anderson http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric/origami.html and
=09http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric
Alex Bateman http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/origami.html
Juancarlos Londono http://www.ciat.cgiar.org/~jclondono or http:
//198.93.225.167/~jclondono
The BOS web page http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/bos.html
Money Cards //www.deskmedia.com/~ccent/
Math Forum http://forum.swarthmore.edu/
Dave Dewey http://yrkpa.kias.com/~dmdewey
Nick Robinson nick@homelink.demon.co.uk http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk=
:
1500/nickdata.html
Tom Stamm http://members.aol.com/stamm/index.html
Origami Tanteidan http://133.40.74.248/index.html
Charlotte Public Library http:
//www.plcmc.lib.nc.us/origami/origami.html
"Origami Soci=EBteit Nederland" http://www.rug.nl/~maarten/osn
Here's my list of origami history sites (churned up with
altavista.digital.com):
        http://cyber10.csz.com/paper/history.html
        http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~wdawes/History.html
        http://www.jumpmedia.com/peace/intro.html
        http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~ejcranks/origami.html
Valerie Vann 75070,304 http://users.aol.com/valerivann/index.html

Happy Surfing!

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:02:17 -0400
From: JRMetzger@aol.com
Subject: Origamian is Westinghouse winner!

Aaron Michael Einbond, a senior at Hunter High School, Manhattan, won 5th
place in the Westinghouse Science Contest, according to today's NY Times. He
explored a new protein domain through protein sequence database searches and
isolated two human genes (don't ask me, that's what it says). His name looked
very familiar, so I looked it up - I assume this is the same Aaron Einbond
who had his skunk published in RJ Lang's Origami Animals at age 14 (1992). If
he is still involved in origami, Aaron should be able to buy plenty of paper
with his $15,000 prize. Congratulations, Aaron! (Robert, are they holding a
place for Aaron at the JPL?) There is no mention of origami in the article,
but it goes on to say that Aaron is also a concert clarinetist and an
award-winning composer whose works have been performed by the Long Island
Philharmonic and the Cincinnati Symphony.

Yaacov
