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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 14:31:18 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Current Issue of miniatura

> I checked out the site, and there is a picture of origami cranes, with a
> web address leading to instructions on how to fold it@
> http://www.csi.ad.jp/suzuhari-es/1000cranes/paperc/index.html

Apologies to all (especially Kathy the post-er).

Egg-facedly yours,
Robert





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:27:22 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: Origami and Technology

>  I've got a copy of Engel's Folding the Universe. It's got a great little
>section on the history of origami and its spread. I'm going to start checking
>on the books in the bibliography. Does anyone have any books they'd recommend?

Fascinating Fold's web site has two great articles on the history of
origami -- one by Barbara Pearl and another by Tom Hull:

        http://cyber10.csz.com/paper/history.html

I think you will find these helpful....

pat slider.





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:31:19 -0400
From: Kim Best <Kim.Best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: RE: Folding puzzle

On Mon, 26 Feb 1996, Kevin Park wrote:

>       You can do it purely geometrically.  You know the area of the
> initial square (25 sq cm).  The new square has a diagonal of 5 cm.  That
> means that each side is (5 x (root 2)) / 2, which squared is
> (25 x 2) / 4 which is 25 / 2 sq cm.

Actually I was thinking of a proof that was less algebraic and more
visual.

How about this for a challange.  Take the square created using the method
I described. Unfold it.  Now add one more crease to the paper, which will
make it obvious that the small square is one half the area of the large
square.

In case anyone has forgotten the method here is again:

1)  Crease one diagonal.

2) Valley fold so bottom edge lies along diagonal.

3) fold top edge of paper horizontally so that it meets the point where
the bottom right corner of the paper lies on the diagonal.

3a) undo step 2.

4) fold right edge of paper vertically, so that it meets the point where
the top edge intersects the diagonal.

Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *    Curse you Robert!!       *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   *  Now my apartment is being  *
420 Chipeta Way #120                *    Overrun with insects!    *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 16:12:05 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Origami history sites and a few others...

Here's my list of origami history sites (churned up with altavista.digital.com):

        http://cyber10.csz.com/paper/history.html
        http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~wdawes/History.html
        http://www.jumpmedia.com/peace/intro.html
        http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~ejcranks/origami.html

For some reason my "history" search turned up a site on "origami
architecture", which I believe someone was asking about. Lots of pictures!

        http://www.mandrak.com/ablau/oring.htm

Just a little net-surfing for lunch....By the way, I was amused to find a
Webaholics Support Group page the other day:

         http://www.ohiou.edu/~rbarrett/webaholics/ver2/

Well, time to return to the real world,

pat slider.





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 19:29:24 -0400
From: megazine@usa.net
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Current Issue of miniatura

On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Robert J. Lang wrote:

>Please help keep the spam off the origami-l mailing list. This list is for
>origami-related material, not magazine announcements. (Although if the issue
>in question actually has something about origami, my apologies but you should
>have mentioned it.)

Whoa there Robert; this ain't no spam.

miniatura is a leading professional journal that covers scale models, art,
and origami.  In fact, our current issue reviews a Web site with 1000 crane
origami models.

Having been a Netizen for over 2 years, I'm well aware of listserv protocol.
I would never have posted a message that was not germane to a list.

I hope that you'll reconsider and sample today's miniatura
@ <http://www.p-pub.com>.

Kathy Prochnow
MsKathy@p-pub.com





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 21:19:38 -0400
From: "Laurie S. Reynolds" <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: J. Wu's Dragons at NY Ori Conf '95

Hello,

At the Origami Conference in NY - June '95 Joseph Wu had a
display area.

My queries are:

1) Where can I get the instructions for the
        "When pigs grow wings and fly" model?

2) Where can I get the instructions for the
        dragon that is mostly pleats or crimps?

thanks all.

laurie reynolds





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 21:22:56 -0400
From: "Laurie S. Reynolds" <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: Seeking mail-order origami jewelry

Hello,

At the origami conference in NY - june 95 i bought
some origami jewelry.  I don't remember who I bought
it from, but have received lots of complements about
the jewelry and would like to buy some as gifts.  Does
anyone know where I can order some?   This was actual
origami that was treated so that it would be durable.

Cheers!

laurie reynolds





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 21:24:43 -0400
From: "Laurie S. Reynolds" <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: Sports Models

Greetings:

A friend of mine is getting married in May and would like
to enclose the favors that are placed on the tables in
origami boxes.  She and her fiancee met at a hockey game.
So, she would like to some how decorate the boxes with
origami hockey sticks, hockey pucks, or something along
those lines.  Additionally, I have gotten requests for
footballs.  Any suggestions where I can find sport related
origami models?

thanks and bye,

laurie reynolds





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 21:50:14 -0400
From: "Laurie S. Reynolds" <bastian@nis.NET>
Subject: Sample Oridraw files

Hello,

I recently downloaded Martin Van Gelder's (sorry about wrong spelling)
oridraw program and was wondering if anyone had some sample diagrams.

thanks,

laurie reynolds





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 23:24:33 -0400
From: Kevin Thorne <c598033@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: Kawasaki's Rose

        Putting together all that I've heard on the net in regards to
Kawasaki's rose, the one in Origami for the Conniseur isn't by Kawasaki
at all and he doesn't have any of his roses actually published in any
books at all.
        Do I have this right, or can you actually find diagrams of
Kawasaki's true work like the model I heard mentioned where a rose and
sepals (components of the calyx) were from 1 sheet of paper>

Kevin Thorne
c598033@showme.missouri.edu





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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 00:18:34 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: England this summer

Dear Friends in the UK -

A member of my affiliate grou is going to be visiting "Jolly Old" this summer
and would like to hook up with some of you. I am afraid I deleted the message
pertaining to BOS convention dates... if someone could remail them to me
I would greatly appreciate it. If any of you would be interested in meeting with
a "Yank" from Colorado, mail me too! John isn't on the 'net yet, so I'll have
to act as a relay!

Thanks bunches! Wish I could be meeting you all, too...

Dee
blynch@du.edu





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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 00:38:45 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Yoshino's T-Rex

HHHHEEEELLLLPPPP!!!! All you Yoshino experts out there! I need some help - I am
working on the T-Rex and I find that I am having the same problem this time as
I have had in the past and I don't know what I might be doing wrong. I am
working on tail bones 1 -4 and I can't get them to go together correctly. The
locking mechanism at the front of the piece (the front being the end inserted
into the one before it) sticks out too far in front of the first vertabrea -
which means that I can't slide the pieces together completely. There is a
space between the last vert on one and the first vert on the second. If I unlock
the locking mechanism, they will slide together quite easily, but then the whole
thing kind of spreads out because it is no longer locked. I swear I am
following the diagrams to a t and the book even shows the lock sticking out
farther than the first vert clear up to the final drawing where it suddlenly
seems to disappear... any suggestions?

Dee
blynch@du.edu





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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 02:25:12 -0400
From: jwu@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Wu)
Subject: Re: J. Wu's Dragons at NY Ori Conf '95

At 9:19 PM 96.2.28, Laurie S. Reynolds wrote:
>At the Origami Conference in NY - June '95 Joseph Wu had a
>display area.
>
>My queries are:
>
>1) Where can I get the instructions for the
>        "When pigs grow wings and fly" model?
>
>2) Where can I get the instructions for the
>        dragon that is mostly pleats or crimps?

Hi, Laurie. My usual answer holds here. Neither of the two models have
been diagrammed yet. The dragon that you speak of might never be diagrammed.
I've not decided whether to release that one yet or not. The problem is
that I want to make the whole dragon, not just the head and neck, before
diagramming it, and I've not had the time to do so. Then again, I always
prefer to fold than to diagram. Mark Kennedy and Marc Kirschenbaum are
supposed to be working on diagrams for "When Pigs Grow Wings and Fly", but
I've not heard how far they've gotten.

Happy folding!

 Joseph Wu                      Webmaster of the Origami Page
<jwu@cs.ubc.ca> <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
  Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view.
  Explore the vessel. Make friends with the Captain. Fish a
  little. And then get off when you get Home.  --Max Lucado





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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 03:14:11 -0400
From: Maumoy@aol.com
Subject: Korean Paper Source

I found  2" (5 cm) squares of diagonal stripes and shaded concentric corner
paper at Morning Glory,  a chain of Korean stationery stores.  The paper is
made in Korea by Jongie Nara and is labelled Floral Paper Crane Folding #3
and #1.  North American branches of Morning Glory are in the metropolitan LA,
NY/NJ, Chicago, Seattle, DC (Annandale, VA), Hawaii and Toronto areas.  The
Annandale store is in a shopping center with other Korean stores and
restaurants.

Does anyone know of a source of Korean origami books?

Marcia Mau
Maumoy@aol.com





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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:49:22 -0400
From: Penny Groom <penny@sector.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Boston Museum of Fine Art

Does anyone know if the Boston Museum of Fine Arts has an e-mail
address, if so could you let me know what it is please. Also do they
stock origami ties?

Thanks
Penny
Membership Sec BOS

--
Penny Groom
penny@sector.demon.co.uk





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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 12:51:10 -0400
From: jmarcoli@stratacom.com (John Marcolina)
Subject: Re: Yoshino's T-Rex

Dee,
Good news and bad news..
The good news is that I know exactly what you're talking about. The bad news
is that I had exactly the same problem! I went over the diagrams many times
trying to figure out *what I did wrong* and came to the conclusion that the
diagrams must be in error, because the pieces will not go together properly,
just as you have described. I tried to come up with an alternate folding
sequence that would allow the pieces to fit together better, but in the end
I'm afraid I unlocked the individual pieces, then glued them together (gasp)
while clamping them closed with small clothespins. (Hey, the thought of using
glue makes me wanna barf, but I had too much time invested to give up, and
anyway, glue *is* required for other parts of the assembly).

I have a feeling I am not the only one who had this experience. Am I right?

John Marcolina
jmarcolina@strata.com





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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 15:00:39 -0400
From: Oded Streigold <benjic@netvision.net.IL>
Subject: Origami Omnibus

 Hello!!

 Origami Omnibus by Kasahara seems to be out of print, however the Hebrew
 translation can easily be found in Israel. If anyone want to buy it,
 send Email to me, and I'll check out how it can be ordered.
 This has 2 drawbacks:
  1) The text in this book are enjoyable, and essential for the geometric
     folds, also you can't figure the names of the creators (although, most
     folds are by Kasahara. )
  2) The Hebrew edition is pricy.

 I Think that Robert Harbin's Origami the art of paper folding 1-4 is
 hard to find too. The Hebrew translation can be found easily.

 If anyone interested: My Email is:   benjic@netvision.net.il

 Oded     =8-D





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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 15:17:20 -0400
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Any connection between Pure Land folding/Buddhism?

>
>    Here's a question for our international readership!  I'm very
>    interested in learning if there is any connection between Pure Land
>    folding (mountain and valley folds only) and Pure Land Buddhism found
>    in China since the 6th century and Japan since the 13th (?).

  My apologies for the length of this reply, to those who hate the subject:-

Probably the best account that I can give of Pureland is my introduction to
the first Pureland booklet which I published in Feb. 1980..

Welcome to Purcland Origdmi -

        In this booklet appear 16 of ny own  'Pureland'  nodels which I hope you
will enjoy
folding.  You may well be puzzled by the word  'Pureland'  and' a few
background' notes may
be of interest

        In 1972 1 suggested to Mick Guy that we work on a book about Origami
     which
would
start with very simple models and proceed in a structured way to the most
difficult.  In the
event we decided not to proceed with the task.  I did, however, undertake
some research for
the book and, in particular, into what made some models more difficult to
fold than others.  It
seemed to me that a simple model should have relatively few steps, and use
only very
simple folds which could be easily located.

        Now the simplest fold is a valley or mountain fold, so I tried to invent
models which
used these alone.  The result was my Mountain & Valley Butterfly and Dart
created' in March
1972 and put into the B.O.S. library at that time.  The next step was a talk
I gave at the
B.O.S. convention in April 1976, subsequently published in issue 58 of our
magazine (June
1976).  This article attempted to define Origami, and its variations, as a
modifications from
the 'purest' forn.  I argued that this purest' form should use only a square
of material and
proceed purely by folding to achieve its results

        The choice of a square I defended by argueing that it is the first fully
symmetric,
even cornered regular figure and the most elementary of the perfect figures.
One could also
plead that a square follows the sequence of a point being extended to a
line. (no dimensions
to one dimension) and the line being extended at right angles (thus giving 2
dimensions in
Euclidean space). This in its most symmnetric form yields a square and then
a cube (in 3
dimensions) .

        Nothing else happened until the April 1978 convention when my interest
     in the
simplest Origami was again aroused.  I used the term "Pureland" at the
convention to
describe this new idea of the simplest folding only using a square. 'Pure
of course, referred
back to my article of June 1976 and 'Land' was a reference to my Mountain &
Valley butterfly
of 1972.  'Pureland' is also the the namne used by a form of Buddhists in
China & Japan and
has a concept of a heaven or pure land' which can be achieved by devotees.
I think that
there are interesting parallels between Paperfolding and religion (including
Zen) but this little
booklet is hardly the vehicle for such a discussion.

        As a result of the Spring convention of 1978, 1 made a search of
     published
models
and in issue N070 of the B.O.S. magazine published' the 'rules' of
'pureland' and gave
be identified
as Pureland.

1)      Only a square to be used'

(2)     Only Mountain or Valley folding to be used.
        It is permissible to unfold a valley or mountain fold
        and to turn a model over while folding.

(3)     Tucking in  or Opening up to 3D is acceptable provided' no creases are
nade in the
         process

(4)     All folds to be exactly locatable.

You will see from this that I was aware of the Pure Land sect, and was
struck by the possible parallels.
I had read a lot about Zen and was impressed by the way in which Ikebana ,
for example, seemed to reflect my feelings about paper and folding. Perhaps
these ideas were best expressed in the work of Paul Jackson. In the BOS
magazine April 1985 Paul quotes from the Sansui newsletter about Paul's
workshop :-

"He finds in paper folding a Zen aesthetic involving the play of light over
a sheet of paper, the considered or intuitive choice of a fold, its
placement on the paper, the resultant tension and the sculptural beauty of
line and curve so created. ...... what fascinates and engages his mind are
the infinite possibilities of simple open-ended folding and the meditative,
sculptural and mathematical aspects of the activity"

Eric Kenneway in his ABC of Origami says :-

"Origami...... is characterised by a preference for simplicity over
complexity and has the capacity some folders would maintain of providing a
means of a spiritul experince"

In 1975 Vittorio-Maria Brandoni founded the Daitoryu School of Origami in
Turin (Italy). Some of the aims were to use Origami to rediscover the
essence of life and of action through activity. You looked at a square of
paper not as a square but as a seed. .... we need to be nearer to nature to
discover that we are nature.

I introduced Pureland as a way of seeking simplicity, I think the parallels
to a spiritual search are worth considering.

I have noticed in the USA that Pureland is thought just to be about using
only mountain and valley folds, it is not as you will see from the above.

Minimal folding is often confused with Pureland. In Minimal folding we seek
to express the essence of an object in the smallest number of folds or
creases. These folds are often only mountain or valley but need not be. Also
in Minimal folding there are often no landmarks for the folds.

I am sorry this is so long, but I think there are important ideas here which
need to be looked at occasionaly.
I look forward to hearing other views.
regards John.
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:44:39 -0400
From: Ninety Six Elementary <frick@emeraldis.com>
Subject: Re: Top 10 origami books?

 Some of my favorite books are:
Biddle - Essential Origami - good for beginners
Engel - Folding the Universe , especially the discussion in the front of the
        book.
Jackson - The Complete Origami Course , I think this is out of print.
Kasahara - Creative Origami
Montroll - Origami Sculptures
Yoshizawa - Origami Museum Animals I
Harbin - Secrets of Origami , this is out of print too, I think.
Mulatinho - Origami,  nice selection of easy models
Gross - New Ideas for Paperfolding
Collins, Garwood & Young - Return To The Fold (Paper Airplanes)

Hard to pick just 10. Looking forward to seeing the completed list.
Marsha DuPre





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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 21:21:42 -0400
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: England this summer

Hi Dee

I'm sure you expected an answer from me, and I'm not going to disappoint
you.

The nearest BOS convention to the 'summer' (they are not like yours!) is
the autumn convention. It is towards the end of September (sorry I do
not have my diary with me now) in Sheffield. Sheffield is a biggish city
in South Yorkshire (up north). I'll email you the dates soon. You should
be able to find Sheffield on any reasonable map of the UK.

There are a number of small groups which meet about once a month (or less)
around the UK. I know there are groups in Manchester, in London, in
Birmingham, and in Derby/Nottingham. Does your friend intend to visit
any of these places? I can provide date information (and locations too
for B'ham and N'ham).

Is there any other information your friend would like about the UK, or
is he a seasoned traveller who (thinks he) has seen it all? We've seen
enough Yank tourists with their zoom lenses (length is inversely
proportional to the size of a man's *****?). However many do realise
that there is a lot more to England than London, Stratford, Oxford &
Cambridge.

Bye

Richard K.
(R.A.Kennedy@birmingham.ac.uk)





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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 21:50:44 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: Top 10 origami books?

>Hard to pick just 10. Looking forward to seeing the completed list.

Thanks for the response....you can send in more than 10 titles if you want!
I am simply tallying the number of times they get recommended. This creates
a kind of ranked "top 10" list, but I would like to point out that the
right book for a particular individual might be low on the list or, for
that matter, not even on it :->. This is why I want to add some reviews, to
help people decide if the book is appropriate for them.

I plan to pull reviews/recommendations from the archives over the weekend
to complete another version of this for Monday....(That is my plan. But it
has been a busy week, and I am not quite sure yet how big a task this will
be.)

pat slider.





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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 00:20:41 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: Seeking mail-order origami jewelry

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> At the origami conference in NY - june 95 i bought some origami
jewelry.
> I don't remember who I bought it from, but have received lots of
> complements about the jewelry and would like to buy some as gifts.
Does
> anyone know where I can order some?   This was actual origami that
was
> treated so that it would be durable.

Laurie,

I had bought some earrings at the convention.  I just went and checked
and only one pair had contact information:

Paper Magic
64 Peppler St. #31
Waterloo, Ont N2J 4P7
519-684-0390

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 02:01:28 -0400
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: OSN homepage...

        I saw the Origami Society of the Netherlands homepage (I was visitor
number 7, I think) and put a bookmark to it this afternoon. However, I just
tried to access it and my browser said that the requested object does not
exist on this server...was the name of the page changed or was it taken
off-line temporarily? I hardly had a chance to explore it!

-Eric  :-P

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       acappella@brown.edu                 Higher_Keys@brown.edu
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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 04:47:55 -0400
From: "M.J.van.Gelder" <M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Re: OSN homepage...

m>         I saw the Origami Society of the Netherlands homepage (I was visitor
m> number 7, I think) and put a bookmark to it this afternoon. However, I just
m> tried to access it and my browser said that the requested object does not
m> exist on this server...was the name of the page changed or was it taken
m> off-line temporarily? I hardly had a chance to explore it!

It was taken off-line temporarily. We started a new version of the server and
the configuration was not the same.
But in the future the URL of this page will change, because my homepage will
change address. If this happens I'll tell you.

Maarten van Gelder,           Rekencentrum RuG,  RijksUniversiteit Groningen
M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl                         Nederland





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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 05:55:01 -0400
From: ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr (ciarlet mathieu)
Subject: NOT really completely ori-lated

        Hi everyone,

My .02 for today is just this math problem : I'll be on holidays starting
tomorrow (I'm going skiing in the Alpes) and it will last the whole week, so my
     question is : How many list-emails will I be having on my return (the 11th
     of
march) ?
The right answers (plus or minus 10) will be granted by a beautiful crane no
matter where I should send them (or it, or none).
Last answer accepted : 10th of march 12 PM.

Bye bye all.

Mathieu Ciarlet         *8o)   ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr
http://www.dauphine.fr/~ciarlma6/
"May the fold be with you"





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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:56:05 -0400
From: Oded Streigold <benjic@netvision.net.il>
Subject: harbin 1-4 in hebrew

 Oops, my last massage was private mail that I posted to the list, never
     thought it would happen to me...  :-p

 Anyhow, I got a lot of responses about the hebrew version of Harbin's
 origami 1-4, if you are not interested in that then :-

 Each book costs about 11.5$. The only way I know of to  send it, is
 that I'll buy it myself, and send the books abroad. Money transfer
 can be done either by sending cache or by bank transfer (Checks has
 high commission, I think).

 Also there are the postal costs. I'm not sure yet how much is it.

 If you like it, send me a massage with your snail mail address,
 I'll check that the books are available for sure, if they are I'll
 send a massage with my snail mail address, bank account, and such,
 then you can pay me, send me a massage that you have done so, and
 then I'll buy the books and send it to you.

 Sorry about the clumsiness, but I really have no experience with these
 things.

 Bye!

 Oded





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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:07:12 -0400
From: Daniel Cohen <catman@ee.WPI.EDU>
Subject: Origami in the Movies

Hello everyone,

Last night, I watched a sneak preview of the movie _If Lucy Fell_.  This
movie will be released on March 8th (according to the web site).  I just
wanted to let you all know, there is an Origami Swan in the movie.  It is
only shown briefly, but it is in the movie at two separate times.

If you want to see a brief description of the movie, see the following web
page:
   http://movieweb.com/movie/iflucyfell/index.html

                                                  - Dan

   -----------        ----------------        ----------------------------
<<< Dan Cohen >>>--<<< catman@wpi.edu >>>--<<< http://www.wpi.edu/~catman >>>





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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:26:31 -0400
From: Bimal Desai <bd1@st-andrews.ac.uk>
Subject: Origami Fantasy, yet again...

Hey guys,

OK.  Last try.  I've given up trying to find Origami Fantasy in the U.K.
Could someone who ordered it from a bookstore in America give me
the address (email and/or snail mail) and phone number of whatever
bookstore they ordered it from?  I would greatly appreciate it. I've
heard SO much about this amazing book that my fingers are just aching to
get a hold of it and fold the dickens out of a big 'ole sheet of paper.
I think the dude sitting next to me in this computer lab is really
wondering what it is I'm writing about, so I'll get going now.  Thanks in
advance for any help you folks might offer.

Sincerely,

Bimal

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bimal Ramesh Desai                      bd1@st-andrews.ac.uk





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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:26:31 -0400
From: Bimal Desai <bd1@st-andrews.ac.uk>
Subject: Origami Fantasy, yet again...

Hey guys,

OK.  Last try.  I've given up trying to find Origami Fantasy in the U.K.
Could someone who ordered it from a bookstore in America give me
the address (email and/or snail mail) and phone number of whatever
bookstore they ordered it from?  I would greatly appreciate it. I've
heard SO much about this amazing book that my fingers are just aching to
get a hold of it and fold the dickens out of a big 'ole sheet of paper.
I think the dude sitting next to me in this computer lab is really
wondering what it is I'm writing about, so I'll get going now.  Thanks in
advance for any help you folks might offer.

Sincerely,

Bimal

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bimal Ramesh Desai                      bd1@st-andrews.ac.uk





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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:56:12 -0400
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Origami and Technology

>  Basically, I'm thinking about relating the spread of origami to the spread
>of other ideas and technology. Since practical uses are being found for origami
>ideas and techniques today, I wonder if anyone in the past has learned
>something useful from origami? (Not to say that origami isn't useful!!)
>
>  I'm open to ideas, and I've got a bit of time. The prospectus for the paper
>is due next week, so I guess I need to decide what angle I'm going to take
>with this...
>
>Ideas and sources would be appreciated... :)
>
>Michael
>

A fascinating subject but I fear that most of what you will read in books is
speculation or re- reporting rather than based on anything properly
researched. The most important works on the history of origami particularly
on the spread of paper folding are in a series of brilliant papers by David
Lister. All of his work is properly researched.
You will often see repetitions of the statement that paper folding
originated in China centuries ago, it may have but there is no evidence for
this as far as I know. You will read that Leonardo da Vinci was a psper
folder, he might have been but Roberto Morassi studied the original
documents and could find no evidence for this story.
Regarding the uses of paper folding perhaps the most important is the work
of Froebel and his disciples, see the proceedings of COET91 and the essays
by David Lister.

Perhaps the most interesting area of all is the long history of Origami
toys. Almost certainly we have evidence of this back to the 17th century in
England and there is an illustration discovered by Vincente Palacios ( one
of the other great names in historical research ) which is much earlier than
the 17th century, of the classic paper boat.
 Lewis Carroll was not an avid paper folder, as is often reproted, but knew
a number of toy folds with which he amused children. He records in his diary
how a litle boy Francis Epipharius taught him how to fold a paper pistol (
Oct. 1890 ). The next year we find him teaching the pistol to Princess Alice
and the little Duke of Albany. After going through Carroll's diaries, at
least those that were published, and Tenniels illstrations, I found evidence
that Carroll knew the following models,

Paper Pistol, Fishing Boat, this is possibly the Chinese Junk, 2 hats
including the printers hat.

I summarized what I had found in Booklet No 1. Notes on the History of
Origami (1972 , revised 1973 and 1975.)

What I think we must discourage is the repetition of one author's
speculations as though it was established fact. If you can add to the body
of real historical research this would be most welcome.  I hope this is all
some help, I wish you every success with your project, but please demand to
see documentary evidence for the statements of some of the popular authors.
John.
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:01:07 -0400
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Subject: Re: Origami Fantasy, yet again...

Here is the place where I got Origami Fantasy (see book cover on
http://133.40.74.248/People/Kawahata/Fantasy.html for Japanese or
http://133.40.74.248/People/Kawahata/Fantasy-e.html for English):

SASUGA book store

7 Upland Road Cambridge, MA 02140 Tel: (617) 497-5460 Fax: (617) 497-5362
email: sasuga@world.std.com

361 Boylston St. Brookline, MA 02146 Tel: (617) 264-9166 Fax: (617) 264-9245
email: info@sasuga.terranet.com

You can point to their web site as well :
home page - http://www.terra.net/sasuga/
origami books - http://www.terra.net/sasuga/origami.html

SASUGA is working on getting Kawahata's new dino book as well:
KYORYU no ORIGAMI 2
KAWAHATA Fumiaki
ISBN4-416-39517-5 1200yen
1995
Book cover can be seen in
http://133.40.74.248/People/Kawahata/Dino.html for Japanese
http://133.40.74.248/People/Kawahata/Dino-e.html for English

Don't get lost!

|-------------------------------------------------------\
|  _  Sy Chen <chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov>    |\
| |_| Folding Page http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm --\





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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:33:16 -0400
From: Namir Gharaibeh <U50879@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Top Origami

Hey all.  Awhile ago I had embarked upon a mission to find Origami for the
Connesueir (sp?, not that I'll ever get it right).  I found to my
dismay that its out of print.  Phooey.  So I'm looking through the
origami section in Toguri's and see Top Origami.  The contents and
models looked the same, from what I saw. Except it was mostly in
Japanese.  Is this the same book, different name?  Is there anEnglish
translation on the Web somewhere?  There looks like a lot of good tidbits
of info scattered throughout.

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Me and the world, see, we got  :            Namir Gharaibeh           |
|     this understanding.        :     a.k.a.  U50879@uicvm.uic.edu     |
|                                :   University of Illinois at Chicago  |





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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 17:56:20 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: searching archives question

I keep putting in the Alex Bateman homepage http and keep getting message
that it is busy and can't get to it.  I can get Joseph Wu's home page but try
as I may I can't get Alex homepage.





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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:18:52 -0400
From: cwalker@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us (Cindy Walker)
Subject: Re: NOT really completely ori-lated

> How many list-emails will I be having on my return (the 11th of
>march) ?
>

I say, 234.

///////////////////////////////////////////////
/                                             /
/             Cindy Walker                    /
/      http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~cwalker    /
/       cwalker@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us         /





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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 04:52:27 -0400
From: Penny Groom <penny@sector.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Avi in Israel

Does anyone know the e-mail address of Avi in Israel who was quite
active on origami-l last summer and was going to join the Army?
If you do could you let me know please. We have changed our software and
consequently lost all the info from the other.
Thanks
Penny

penny@sector.demon.co.uk
Membership Secretary BOS





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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 20:32:39 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Seeking mail-order origami jewelry1

Laurie, Mark Kennedy sells jewelry, Jonathon Baxter sells jewelry, Beth
MacCullum sells jewelry, and there is another person in Highland Park N. J.
that sells jewelry too....if you want addresses describe the jewelry and
maybe I can help you. Dorigami





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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 20:38:58 -0400
From: reeds@openix.com (Reeds Family)
Subject: Re: History of Origami

John--how can I get a copy of the Booklet No. 1 Notes on the history of
origami? Amen to your comments on the need for original research, not
repotted stories.
Karen
Karen Reeds
Science/Medicine Editor  (and historian )
Rutgers University Press
Bldg 4161, Livingston Campus
PO Box 5062
New Brunswick NJ 08903-5062
908--445-7762x602
Fax 908--445-7039
reeds@openix.com (for origami)

>A fascinating subject but I fear that most of what you will read in books is
>speculation or re- reporting rather than based on anything properly
>researched. The most important works on the history of origami particularly
>on the spread of paper folding are in a series of brilliant papers by David
>Lister. All of his work is properly researched.
>You will often see repetitions of the statement that paper folding
>originated in China centuries ago, it may have but there is no evidence for
>this as far as I know. You will read that Leonardo da Vinci was a psper
>folder, he might have been but Roberto Morassi studied the original
>documents and could find no evidence for this story.
>Regarding the uses of paper folding perhaps the most important is the work
>of Froebel and his disciples, see the proceedings of COET91 and the essays
>by David Lister.
>
>Perhaps the most interesting area of all is the long history of Origami
>toys. Almost certainly we have evidence of this back to the 17th century in
>England and there is an illustration discovered by Vincente Palacios ( one
>of the other great names in historical research ) which is much earlier than
>the 17th century, of the classic paper boat.
> Lewis Carroll was not an avid paper folder, as is often reproted, but knew
>a number of toy folds with which he amused children. He records in his diary
>how a litle boy Francis Epipharius taught him how to fold a paper pistol (
>Oct. 1890 ). The next year we find him teaching the pistol to Princess Alice
>and the little Duke of Albany. After going through Carroll's diaries, at
>least those that were published, and Tenniels illstrations, I found evidence
>that Carroll knew the following models,
>
>Paper Pistol, Fishing Boat, this is possibly the Chinese Junk, 2 hats
>including the printers hat.
>
>I summarized what I had found in Booklet No 1. Notes on the History of
>Origami (1972 , revised 1973 and 1975.)
>
>What I think we must discourage is the repetition of one author's
>speculations as though it was established fact. If you can add to the body
>of real historical research this would be most welcome.  I hope this is all
>some help, I wish you every success with your project, but please demand to
>see documentary evidence for the statements of some of the popular authors.
>John.
>John Smith
>Norwich
>England
>e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 20:41:34 -0400
From: kevin !! <prank@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: cellophane "paper"

Hello all,
        I recently went out on a quest for clear cellophane "paper" (as
opposed to opaque cellophane paper...) for folding a variety of things,
mostly geometrics.  I could not find paper which was strong enough
to keep its shape and could hold a crease well.  I tried florists'
cellophane, clear food wrap, heavy shrink wrap, and even a cut up Doritos
bag.  Even though the florists' bouquet wrap would hold a crease, after a
matter of days the model would slowly open up.  And heaven forbid you
tried to fold more than three layers of the stuff...
        I remember getting Easter baskets full of goodies when I was a
microbe, and they had a colored cellophane which was very crinkly and
seemed to be able to hold a crease.
        Does anyone know where to get good "origami cellophane"?
--Kevin





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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 01:04:50 -0400
From: Allen Parry <parry@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment

 On Feb 22, 1996 13:34:43, 'David Holmes <cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk>'
 wrote:

 >How many of you carry around a few squares of origami paper so you can
 >fold if you get a spare moment?
 >

I'm a Dollar Bill Origami Enthusiast and I try often to keep at least a
little of my multi-purpose origami paper with me.  I'm always asking the
cashier to give me her crisper bills for change.  Dollar origami is great...
waiting for someone...bored at a meeting... whip out that billfold and
entertain yourself.

I'd challenge everyone to take a second look at this medium.  There are
some really sophisticated folds out there (out course there are many
published no brainers out there).  For example, try Peter Engel's crab if
you like some complexity.





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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 03:21:32 -0400
From: Namir Gharaibeh <U50879@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU>
Subject: paper types

Wow, I mean, like really cool.  I just made my first tissue-foil-tissue
paper.  All that i've read are true.  It has all the stiffness/shapeablilty
of foil, with the stregth of paper.  It holds a crease but can be unfolded
like new, but the creases are still there underneath if you need them!
Plus, it shimmers a little.  Granted its not wet-folding, but a viable
substitute yes?  Only drawback is that its just a tad thick.  But this
hasn't detered me so far.
    Also, I often see lists of types of paper (like in the OUSA catalog)
and hear people talk about papers.  However, I don't feel good buying
"blind".  Is there any sort of sampler with _all_ types of paper, with
a legend?  I have gotten samplers, but they don't say what each type is!

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Me and the world, see, we got  :            Namir Gharaibeh           |
|     this understanding.        :     a.k.a.  U50879@uicvm.uic.edu     |
|                                :   University of Illinois at Chicago  |





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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 04:16:53 -0400
From: Kim Best <Kim.Best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Origami Bookmark #1

Browsing through some of the old messages I saved from this group, I noticed
that back in July Mark Casada, from Montreal Canada, gave directions for a
bookmark with a pocket that slips over the pages of your book and a slot on
one side to mark your page.  I was so inspired by this, that I designed two,
somewhat more ornate versions, of the model.

Both models are designed             \#############/
for a special two toned              @\###########/@
Origami paper that looks             @@\#########/@@
some what like this:                 @@@\#######/@@@
                                     @@@@\#####/@@@@
Pardon my ASCII, there are           @@@@@\###/@@@@@
no lines along the diagonals         @@@@@@\#/@@@@@@
and of course the paper is           @@@@@@@X@@@@@@@
square, and not triangular.          @@@@@@/#\@@@@@@
                                     @@@@@/###\@@@@@
If you can't find this kind          @@@@/#####\@@@@
of paper, both models will           @@@/#######\@@@
look the same, so you can            @@/#########\@@
pick which ever you think            @/###########\@
is easier.                           /#############\

Bookmark Number One:

Start with the square colored side up.

1) crease both diagonals with valley folds. Turn paper over.
2) book fold the right side over to the left side, and unfold.
3) Carefully, starting at the center of the paper.  Fold the bottom up, so
that the bottom half of the vertical crease lies along the top left diagonal
crease, and the top of the vertical crease lies along the bottom right
diagonal crease. Unfold.
4) Perform the mirror image of the previous fold. (bottom vertical to top
right diagonal, etc.)  Unfold again.
5) Fold the left edge back over to the right and rotate the paper 90 degrees
clockwise.
6) hold the paper by the two short edges of the rectangle and rotate both
edges downward so that the two bottom corners meet and the two mountain
folds in front pop forward and form a squash fold.  A simular thing happens
in back. flatten the model.

(Ok, Ok, I know! I could have replaced steps 1-6 with a preliminary fold
and two squash folds but these steps eliminate one unnessasary crease
from showing up on the finished bookmarker.  'Cides, I think this may be
Pureland?)

7) Valley fold the two bottom edges of the squash fold in front to lie
along the central slit at the bottom of the model. Unfold, and DO NOT
repeat behind!
8) Make inside reverse folds along the two previous folds, tucking the
raw edge of the isosolece triangle underneath, forming a point at the
bottom.  Rats! were not Pureland any more!

(Again, you can perform steps 7 and 8 by petal folding and folding the
top triangle down, if you don't mind the extra crease.)

9) Turn the model over.  Valley fold the top, front flaps of the model so
the two points at the bottom of the model meet the point at the top of the
model. Unfold.
10) Mountain fold along the valley fold you just made, tucking the bottom
into the pocket behind.
11) Valley fold the two white triangles at the bottom of the model along
the fold you made in the last step, tucking them in the pocket. Turn
complete bookmark over.

If you followed my direction exactly, you will have a bookmark with a pocket
that can be placed over the corners of a few pages of your book, and a
pointer to indicate which page your on.  And no unsightly creases!  If you
used the two toned paper, I described at the top, you will notice that the
edges where the colors meet, are safely hidden inside the bookmark. (Even
if you look inside the pocket!)

Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *    Curse you Robert!!       *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   *  Now my apartment is being  *
420 Chipeta Way #120                *    Overrun with insects!    *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 04:21:31 -0400
From: Kim Best <Kim.Best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Origami Bookmark #2

Bookmark Number Two:

Start colored side up.

1) Crease with mountain folds thru the vertical and horizontal centers of
the paper. Crease with a valley fold one of the diagonals. (If it is
helpful you can crease the other diagonal. It doesn't matter to much in
this case, because the crease will lie along the line where two colors
meet.)
2) form a preliminary base along the creases just made. (colored side out.)
3) Kite fold the two top edges, of the front of the model, down to the
center of the model. Unfold. DO NOT repeat behind!
4) Inside reverse fold along the creases made in the previous step.
5) Valley fold the bottom right raw edge of the top layer of the inverted
kite on the top of the model, so that the bottom point meets the left corner
of the kite. Unfold.
6) Repeat step 5 one the left side of the model.
7) Inside Reverse fold along the crease made in step 5, tucking the paper
inside the model.
8) Make a complex inside reverse fold along the crease made in step 6,
opening up the model, as nessasary to tuck the paper inside the model.
9) Turn the model over. Valley fold the front layer of paper, in half, so
that the bottom point touches the point at the top of the model. Unfold.
10) Mountain fold along the previously made crease, tucking the paper
inside the model.
11) Valley fold the two bottom white triangles along the edge you just
made, tucking them in side the pocket.
12) The pointer for your bookmarker will have a small flap pointing to the
left.  Inside reverse fold this flap along the center line of the model.
13) (Optional) The paper inside your pointer is not symetrical, open up
the pointer enough so that you can rearrange the paper so that it is
symetrical.

If you used the specially colored paper, the side with the pointer will
be broken up into four sections, with alternating colors.

Feel free to let me know how you like the models. Or send me suggestions
on how to simplify the procedure (Without creating any visible creases!)
If anough people are interested, I will diagram the procedure in PostScript,
and upload it to the ftp site.

Also let me know about any variations you make. Purhaps a two-toned marker,
made with ordinary origami paper.  No, What!  I just realised!  You can
make this specially patterned paper out of an ordinary origami square.
Just blintz fold, then unfold two opposite corners, and mountain fold them
behind!  How about one where the pointer is a heart, or a crane, or...
Well I'm getting cared away...

Sorry, but I will not be able to get back to anyone for week.  I'm going
to Hawaii!

Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *    Curse you Robert!!       *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   *  Now my apartment is being  *
420 Chipeta Way #120                *    Overrun with insects!    *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 05:43:01 -0400
From: Jonathan Poh <jonath@pl.jaring.my>
Subject: Lurker no more

Hello everybody.
I've lurked at this for quite some time and I feel I'm ready to come out
from under the coconut shell.

Let me introduce myself:
I'm an 18-year old (young?) student hailing from Ipoh, Malaysia. I'm in my
last year of secondary education in my home town. I learnt origami at a very
young age from my aunt who visited Japan and she also bought me some origami
books (Origami: Fun with Paper Folding series published by Froebel-kan Co.
Ltd). I lost interest after a few years probably because of the lack of
resources (books, paper..).

Last year, I went to Japan on a 2 1/2 month student exchange program
organized by AFS Intercultural Programs International (http://www.afs.org).
There I renewed my interest in paper-folding and re-discovered my passion
for origami. When I came back to Malaysia and got my Internet account, I
found out about this list and subscribed to it and also checked out the
origami homepages of several prominent origami-l posters. I have since
downloaded a lot of models in .ps and .pdf formats to try out.

In Malaysia, origami-related books are few and far in between. The
bookstores in Ipoh only have a small selection of origami books. Just
recently I purchased 'The Art of Origami' by Gay Merril Gross. Though there
are Japanese bookshops (Kinokunya) in Kuala Lumpur, I have not gone down
there for quite some time and have not checked out their selection of books,
which I'm sure is much better than what I'm getting here.

I have a question: Are the models in Tomoko Fuse's book 'Origami Boxes' and
the book contained in 'Quick and Easy Origami Boxes' identical? I'm asking
because one of the shops in Ipoh carries both and the 'Quick and Easy
Origami Boxes' set is selling for less than the book itself, plus it
contains origami paper as well. If the two books are the same, then 'Q & E
Origami Boxes' is much better value for money!

I thinks that's about it. Till next time.. Happy folding!

 \   Jonathan Poh
(//) Email: jonath@pl.jaring.my
  \  Home Page: http://www.lookup.com/Homepages/67661/home.html





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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 06:07:10 -0400
From: Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@uh.edu>
Subject: Re: cellophane "paper"

>>>>> "k!" == kevin !! <prank@leland.stanford.edu> writes:

k!> Hello all, I recently went out on a quest for clear cellophane "paper"
k!> (as opposed to opaque cellophane paper...) for folding a variety of
k!> things, mostly geometrics.

In _Brilliant Origami_, Brill recommends using "non-adhesive book covering
film available from stationers.  This holds its crease reasonably well, but
needs a little practice to get good results."  He folds a clear bottle from
it, in which he places a ship.

_Brilliant Origami_ is a pretty neat book; I highly recommend it.
--
      Jason L. Tibbitts III - tibbs@uh.edu - 713/743-8684 - 221SR1
System Manager:  University of Houston High Performance Computing Center
                1994 PC800 "Kuroneko"      DoD# 1723





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Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 13:13:44 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: cellophane "paper"

>        I remember getting Easter baskets full of goodies when I was a
>microbe, and they had a colored cellophane which was very crinkly and
>seemed to be able to hold a crease.

Funny you should mention this....just yesterday I noticed that my grocery
store was selling some clear cellophane for those people making their own
Easter baskets. I have been looking for some myself for to try David
Brill's ship in a bottle. Haven't had a chance to try it yet....but now
seems to be the season for Easter basket cellophane. Inexpensive too.

pat slider.





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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 13:44:29 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: RE: Folding puzzle

> Three folds? the best I can do is four folds:

Call me thick, Kim, but how does your solution reduce the surfacea area by
half or remain 5cms???? Have I misunderstood Laurie's puzzle?

durrrrr,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 23:08:29 -0400
From: vann@tredgar.cardiff.com (VAnn Cornelius)
Subject: Re: cellophane "paper"

> Hello all,
>       I recently went out on a quest for clear cellophane "paper" (as
> opposed to opaque cellophane paper...) for folding a variety of things,
> mostly geometrics.  I could not find paper which was strong enough
> to keep its shape and could hold a crease well.
>  (deleted)
>       Does anyone know where to get good "origami cellophane"?
> --Kevin
>

        I've been using acetate that I found in a pad at Aaron Brothers.
        It also comes in rolls 24" wide and  ?feet long. I don't have
        them near here to check the details, like density.

        I folded large units for E.D. Sullivan's BlueBeard's castle and
        used them to display small gifts.  For those who have not folded
        it, it involves a waterbomb fold that locks with a flap.  The
        paper didn't crack and held the creases quite well.

        V'Ann





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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 23:39:14 -0400
From: terryh@lamg.com (Terry Hall)
Subject: Re: Origami Book List (beta version :->)

Hi Pat,
I was on vacation when your original request for the top ten origami books
was posted. It is difficult for me to list just ten because I have many
books/booklets (over 100 easily) since I collect them. Here goes (not in
order of preference);
1. Origami Sculptures  by John Montroll ISBN 1-877656-00-3
2. Prehistoric Origami by John Montroll ISMN 1-877656-01-1
3. Origami Inside - Out by John Montroll ISBN 0-486-27674-0
4. Origami Sea Life by John  Montroll & Robert Lang ISBN 1-877656-03-8
5. Origami Insects and Their Kin by Robert Lang ISBN 0-486-28602-9
6. Origami for the Connoisseur by Kunhiko Kasahara & Toshie Takahama ISBN
0-87040-670-1
7. Viva Origami by Jun Maekawa & Kuhihiko Kasahara ISBN4-83008-5
8. Origami Omnibus by Kunihiko Kasahara ISBN 0-87040-699-x
9. Folding the Universe by Peter Engel ISBN 0-394-75751-3
10. Origami Fantasy by Fumiaki Kawahata ISBN ???
11. North American Animals in Origami by John Montroll ISBN 0-486-28667-3
12. Secrets of Origami by Robert Harbin ISBN 7064 0088 7
13. Origami Animals by Robert Lang ISBN 0-517-07320-X
14. Essential Origami by Steve and Megumi Biddle ISBN 0-312-05716-4 (mostly
because of the clear directions for beginners)
15. Complete Origami by Eric Kenneway ISBN 0-312-00898-8

I also like many of the Tomoko Fuse books but did not include them here since
they are purely geometric/modular models and it seemed more appropiate to
list my favorite one-piece origami model books. Some people might be slightly
offended by the last sentence, but I had to draw the line somewhere. If
enough interest is shown in the latter category I would be happy to send in
my 2 cents worth.

Terry Hall
terryh@lamg.com





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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 00:08:49 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Fuse Box books in English

Jonathan Poh asked about duplication of material in
the Fuse Box books 'origami boxes' and 'quick and
easy boxes."

There is some duplication, but every time Fuse does
a book, there are some differences, as she's constantly
revising and improving. But I'd go with the Origami
Boxes and get my paper elsewhere.

--valerie
(a Fuse 'Nut', with every English and Japanese Fuse
book I can get my hands on, all heavily annotated...)





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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 01:15:35 -0400
From: JMontroll@aol.com
Subject: New Book

Guess what?  My new book-Mythological Creatures and the Chinese Zodiac-is
out. The books have just been shipped around.      John Montroll





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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 09:50:54 -0400
From: Karina Wright <karina@fred.NET>
Subject: Re: New Book

At 01:15 AM 3/4/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Guess what?  My new book-Mythological Creatures and the Chinese Zodiac-is
>out. The books have just been shipped around.      John Montroll

I'll probably wind up having to either go down the road or special ordering
it, but the T-Rex in Animal Origami for the Enthusiast is one of the most
popular when I do demos for the 1st graders at the local elem. school.  It's
getting a little battered though.  Maybe I'll replace it with something from
the new book.

ttfn/Karina

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