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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 18:06:04 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Origami Book List (beta version :->)

Here is a first draft of a "recommended" book list. I have gotten a total
of 10 responses so far.  I would like to thank those people for the
donation of time and thought. I have totaled the number of times each book
got mentioned and included helpful reviews. Books with the same number of
recommendations are listed in alphabetical order...at least, I hope they
are :->. I also pulled the difficulty ratings from OUSAs Origami Source
catalog of supplies  -- figuring that these were probably fairly accurate.
(I agree that difficulty ratings are a subjective art.)

I am hoping that this "beta" version will elicit some more
responses/reviews/suggestions. Even if you just want to send a "me too" for
Lang's "Origami Insects and Their Kin" or Fuse's "Origami Boxes" to see it
move to the top of the list, any and all responses welcome.  You can even
respond more than once to recommend another book.

I plan to add ISBN numbers, double-check titles and authors, etc. this
week. Then I shall look into incorporating book reviews and recommendations
from the archives.

Hope others find this as useful and interesting as I do, thanks again....

pat slider

****************************************************************************
********

Total number of responses: 10

Title                                                   # of Recommendations
-----                                                   --------------------

Origami From Angelfish to Zen, Peter Engel              5
-----------------------------
ISBN 0-486-28138-8 (previously titled "Folding the Universe").
Intermediate to Complex.
  "The best text on design so far, along with some TOO complex models." --
Goran Konjevod

  "A must have for its discussion of history and evolution of origami.
Distinctive models include:  hummingbird, giraffe, valentine heart,
centipede, knight on horseback and an astounding octopus." -- Rob Moes

Origami Boxes,  Tomoko Fuse                             4
-------------
  Intermediate.
  "I need to keep Origami Boxes within arms reach all the time although I have
memorized the simpler models....I've also had fun with Unit Origami.  In
recent years my interests have leaned toward the geometric designs over
animals and such.  Consequently I get a lot of use out of the Fuse books."
-- John Fisher

  "Just boxes, but surprising variations--assembling the units does require
some patience.  Perfect for your fanciest paper and for presenting small
gifts.  Squares, hexagons, and octagons.  Many of her other books are
available in Japanese as well." -- Rob Moes

Origami Sea Life, Robert Lang and John Montroll         4
----------------
  Intermediate to Complex.
  "Simply brilliant.  Very unusual and detailed models that you can't find
elsewhere:  fish in all shapes and sizes, plus shells and crustaceans.
Perfect for fans of foil-paper and for making mobiles." -- Rob Moes

  "Probably the best topical book so far, contains some of the best models
of both authors."  -- Goran Konjevod

Origami Fantasy, Fumiaki Kawahata                       3
---------------
  Complex.
  "New Japanese book, very costly--for devotees of dinosaurs and
fantastically complex models.  Over 150 steps for the fearsome
Tyrannosaurus, and astoundingly spiky Tuojiangosaurus.  Unique folding
methods as in Dimetrodon, to delight even the most savvy folder.  Almost
painstaking in detail, as with Unicorn and Pegasus, the two non-dinosaurs."
-- Rob Moes

Origami for the Connoisseur, Kasahara & Takahama        3
---------------------------

  "Out of print, but worthwhile scouring libraries to find.  Quite a bit of
modular and geometric origami--such as a bird which can be inflated to form
an icosahedron.  Featured models from Dave Brill, Peter Engel & John
Montroll are also available elsewhere.  Masterful models from Toshikazu
Kawasaki:  fox, rose, vegetables, shells." -- Rob Moes

  "I always go back to it. There are some really great models - like
kawasaki's rose, brill's lidded  box, and some geometric solids.  They are
puzzles to be figured out.  I always feel great when I solve one for the
first time." -- Peg Barber

 "It has a bit of everything, without models being too simple, THE origami
book for anyone except the total beginners." -- Goran Konjevod

Origami Insects and Their Kin, Robert Lang              3
-----------------------------
  Complex to more complex.

Origami Zoo, Robert Lang/Stephen Weiss                  3
-----------
  Intermediate to Complex.
"Charming and whimsical beasts of many kinds, including photographs of
every model.  Delightful and very recognizable models include: scottie dog,
roadrunner, skunk, fox, woolly mammoth, bear, eagle, tortoise, praying
mantis, and dog in a doghouse.  Something to please every folder. -- Rob
Moes

Unit Origami, Tomoko Fuse                               3
------------
  Intermediate.
  "This was my introduction to modular folding.  In fact, it is what I got
re-started in origami with - (I had folded as a kid, but stopped).  I found
it truly amazing that I could create these beautiful paper weavings.  Fuse
has put so many books out, it is hard to decide which is the neatest - I
love her book called Spirals...  I guess I'd choose Unit Origami over most
of the rest because it's in English... Folding level easy to intermediate,
but some of the assemblies are tricky." -- Peg Barber

Viva Origami, Kasahara & Maekawa                        3
------------
  Complex.
  "Difficult to find and expensive.  In Japanese with very precise
illustrations.  Jun is known for creating all sorts of points to his
creations.  A number of elegant peacock variations.  Several challenging
masterpieces:  his seated deer, lizard, frog, and demon will delight anyone
lucky enough to make or receive one." -- Rob Moes

Complete Origami--Eric Kenneway                         2
----------------
  Simple to intermediate.
"Encyclopedic, describes very simple napkin folds through some advanced
techniques, such as Max Hulme's incredible box-pleated Jack in the Box.
Many photographs and illustrations:  something to tempt everyone." -- Rob
Moes

Origami Sculpture, John Montroll                        2
-----------------
  High intermediate to complex.
  "Nice, detailed models, but not as difficult as other models.  I used to
recommend it to almost-beginners, since I folded it straight through with
no problems (first time I had done that), but I've been informed that it
may not be *quite* that easy.  Still, I love it.  It also containd the "dog
base" which is more accurately a "quadruped base" that, once mastered,
gives you a starting point for a lot of mammals:  dog (3 in the book),
horse, bison, camel, etc. -- Kevin Kinney

Brilliant Origami, David Brill                          2
-----------------
  Intermediate to complex.
  "Brand new and truly brilliant--encompasses over 20 years of his work,
well-known models from the British Origami Society.  Elegant 3-dimensional
animals for wet-folding:  fox-hunt scene with horse, rider, hounds & fox is
breathtaking.  Human models (some compound) which are rarely attempted:
three wise men, Hallowe'en witch, Christmas-tree fairy, St. George (slaying
dragon)." -- Rob Moes

The Complete Book of Origami, Robert Lang               2
----------------------------
  Intermediate to complex.
  "Almost 50 models, an excellent value, some very difficult.  Outstanding
bald eagle, elephant, biplane, tarantula.  Unique action models:  viking
ship, three musicians, cuckoo clock." -- Rob Moes

Origami for the Enthusiast, John Montroll               2
--------------------------
  Complex.
  "25 models all with completed photos.  Very pleasing to fold, including
walrus, brontosaurus, frog with toes, antelope, and three-dimensional star.
A few models now in Origami Sea Life." -- Rob Moes

The Origami Workshop, Gay Merrill Gross                 2
--------------------
  Simple to intermediate. (Originally published as "The Art of Origami")
  "Clever modular paper ideas--jack-in-the-box, butterfly ball which flies
apart, brilliant magic star which converts from a ring to a star. Carefully
collected models, both old and new, from around the world. Another book
which utilizes decorative paper well." -- Rob Moes

The World of Origami, by Isao Honda                     2
--------------------
  Intermediate to complex.
  "I've misplaced my Honda but, since it was the book that got me started,
I have to rank it quite high." -- John Fisher

  "Classic from the 1960's, specializes in two-piece compound models, most
from traditional bases, some with a minimum of cutting.  Another good
value--over 100 models to try." -- Rob Moes

Best of Origami, Samuel Randlett                        1
---------------

  "Classic but difficult to find except used.  Remarkable models from
around the world:  Ligia Montoya's leaf, Fred Rohm's "Whistler's Mother",
Adolfo Cerceda's flamingo, Neal Elias' rabbit and others." -- Rob Moes

Creating Origami, J.C. Nolan                            1
----------------
  Intermediate to Complex.
  "Although I've not created models as an adult (I did as a kid but can't
remember any of
them) I found this book to be immensely encouraging on that score.  The
models are fun, although some are quite hard to fold." -- Peg Barber

La Creacion en Papiroflexia--Vicente Palacios           1
---------------------------
"In Spanish, most likely out of print.  Interesting styles mostly from
Spain and Latin America.  A number of ornate bowls, birds, and versions of
the famous Pajarita bird.  Neal Elias' bullfighter, Fred Rohm's angry
goose, and Carlos Costa's rhinoceros are worth finding." -- Rob Moes

Exotic Paper Airplanes, Thay Yang                       1
----------------------
  Intermediate to high intermediate.

Mythical Beings, Jay Ansill                             1
---------------
  Intermediate to complex.

The New Origami, Biddle                                 1
---------------
  Simple to complex.

Origami A to Z, Eric Kenneway                           1
--------------
  Another one to read and not only fold from. -- Goran Konjevod

Origami Animals, Robert Lang                            1
---------------
  Simple to complex.
  "Best introduction on "how to fold" and diagrams symbols that I have seen
yet. The diagrams are so clear that I think the careful beginner can even
fold the high-intermediate models." -- Pat Slider

Origami: a Step by Step Guide, Robert Harbin            1
-----------------------------
  "Incredible inside-out creations by Patricia Crawford---if only the grand
   piano were here too..." -- Goran Konjevod

Origami: The Art of Paper-Folding, Robert Harbin        1
--------------------------------
ISBN 340 10902 5
  "My copy is a bad yellowed paperback which won't stay open but he really
explains a lot about folds." -- MaryRose Hoare

Origami Made Easy, Kunihiko Kasahara                    1
-----------------
  Simple to intermediate.
  "A variety of surprisingly sophisticated-looking models in a rather
unassuming, simple book.  Utilizes many effective two-piece models, such as
kangaroo, shark, and astronaut.  Especially good for beginning adults who
will appreciate the attention to detail." -- Rob Moes

Origami Museum Animals I, Akira Yoshizawa               1
------------------------
 (Origami Dokuhon I)
  "One of the few books in English from the Japanese master, for fans of
simple, elegant Japanese style.  Butterfly, dragon, rabbit, raccoon, hermit
crab and a number of birds are quite pleasing.  Some very subtle finishing
is critical for a few of these, such as gorilla." -- Rob Moes

Origami Omnibus, Kunihiko Kasahara                      1
---------------
  "Out of print, unfortunately.  Massive, nearly 400 pages:   almost an
encyclopedia.  Half geometric, half representational.  Series of masks,
cubes, cranes, polyhedra.  Elegant curved fox, llama, panda, dragon,
sparrow, Adam & Eve." -- Rob Moes

Origami: 30 fold-by-fold projects, Paulo Mulatinho      1
---------------------------------
  ISBN 1-85627-689-9
  "As the drawings are particularly clear for beginners and it indicates things
like paper sizes."  -- MaryRose Hoare

Origami T-rex Skeleton, Issei Yoshino                   1
----------------------

Prehistoric Origami, John Montroll                      1
-------------------
  Intermediate to complex.
  "...wonderful because the models look so realistic.  They're hard, but
not impossible." -- Peg Barber

Secrets of Origami, Robert Harbin                       1
------------------
"Classic, very large collection of models.  As in the Randlett book, very
distinctive works:  birds by Montoya,  Rohm's see-saw, Cerceda's peacock,
Elias' Dove Cote.  Mostly adapted from traditional bases, good for folders
working toward more advanced levels." -- Rob Moes

Sousaku Origami, Yoshizawa                              1
---------------
  Intermediate to complex.

Step-by-Step Art of Origami, Jon Tremaine               1
---------------------------
"Lavish, full of color photos.  Mostly decorative designs which show off
ornate paper such as giftwrap well.  Many ideas for cards, tableware,
jewelry and boxes.  Good choice for people who want to try a fancy paper
project with not much previous folding experience." -- Rob Moes





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 18:39:15 -0400
From: Kevin Park <prank@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Re: the puzzle

Kim and the rest,
        I agree with Kim's solution and have to admit (this is gonna be
good) that that was the solution I had in mind, although I agree that the
blintz fold is more elegant.  I neglected (this can't get much worse, can
it?) to include the steps for getting half a kite-base.  Doesn't paper
_come_ like that already? =)  But here's a step-by-step explanation of a
minimal fold solution (it _is_ getting worse...): 1. valley fold one side
towards the middle such that the lengths of the shorter sides created
are ((5cm x (root 2)) / 2) (IT JUST DOESN'T STOP DOES IT!?!).
2. Repeat with an adjacent side such that you are left with a ((5cm x
(root 2)) / 2) square.  The proof of the area condition is simply
geometric from there...
        Simple, but you have to have an eye for these things...  =)
--Kevin





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 18:56:38 -0400
From: Oded Streigold <benjic@netvision.net.il>
Subject: inroduction

I noticed that new members inroduce themselves so...

My name is Oded Streigold. I live in Tel-Aviv, Israel, I'm 21 years old.
I serve in the army :-( but I have only 6 months to go :-)
Things that I like ( apart from the ovious ) are: computers,
science, artificial life, science fiction and fantasy books, rock music,
and sleeping.

I designed a few folds of my own, almost all of them geometric, though
I like to fold animal origami just as well.

I love the list because I didn't know any other paper folder before
I joined, though I'd like to *really* meet a folder once.

I think that what's usually attracts people to origami at first, is curiosity.
     For example, my brother is cinema student and very creative
at painting and writing, but if I say to him some intriguing fact like:
There are more possible different chess games then there are atoms in
the universe; or: anti matter is a real thing, and not something invented
at Star Trek, and when it touches matter, the two turn into energy -
He'd just say "So what?". You see, he's just not curious as I am.

Well, bye for now!
                       #
 Oded.                  #
                      ###

ps.     I'v got a headache from hitting my head in front of the vcr,
        and I still don't see anything. maybe I try the crunchy food later.





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:42:27 -0400
From: ROBINMACEY@aol.com
Subject: 1997 BOS Convention dates

The British Origami Society have now fixed their 1997 convention dates.These
are listed below together with the 1996 dates as well. We are always pleased
to welcome folders from anywhere in the world so if anyone is planning a trip
to England do try and join us. You are guaranteed an enjoyable time! Booking
forms are automatically posted out to BOS members but if anyone else would
like further information about any of these conventions please send an email
to Penny Groom at:

           penny@sector.demon.co.uk

The dates are:

  30 & 31 March 1996 - Nottingham University

  14 & 15 September 1996 - Sheffield University

  5 & 6 April 1997 - Bristol University

  20 & 21 September 1997 - University College of Ripon & York
  (The York convention will the 30th anniversary of the BOS)

Information provided by

Robin Macey
robinmacey@aol.com





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 21:01:38 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: product vs. process

> perhaps i've been too concerned with learning enough models
> so that i have a nice set to demonstrate anyTime-anyWhere
> without really understanding the intrinsic geometry and spatial aspects
> -- being more concerned with product than process

Don't think this way! The ability to teach someone a design, however simple,
is worth more than all the geometry in the world. The product is important
to those who are being taught, the process should be perfected by the tutor,
in advance, preferably in private; "seek the perfect sequence"! If rote
suits you, so much the better. Try all approaches 'til you find the one
you're happy with.

> then reality hits that i'll never be a Lang or Montroll

Who wants to be? Just get as much fun as you can & make lots of friends.
There are people in the BOS with over 20 years experience & I've never seen
them fold! They'll talk about it till the cows come home though ;)

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 21:17:21 -0400
From: swpayne@CAST.MsState.Edu (Steven W. Payne)
Subject: Folding Maps?

Hello Everyone,
I have been following this group for over a year with great interest.
I know that this question is a little off subject, but have tried every
other resource at my call. I recently saw a documentary that was showing
the works of an engineer who found a way to fold maps in such a way as
they would only fold one way and be reduced to a really compact form.
The example I saw took a road map and reduced it to a 1x2" cube. Has
anyone any idea who this person is or any information on folding maps
etc.?
It seems that the braided paper design found on the SGI home page would
be a simple cousin of the method.

Regards
Steve Payne
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 21:49:37 -0400
From: Kevin Park <prank@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: half-area squares (again)

Hi, all,
        I don't mean to bring the puzzle thing up again, but it made me
remember quite a lot of things.  For example, it is the solution that Kim
Best suggested that Kasahara uses to make an off-center preliminary fold
for his tyranosaurus (I don't know how to spell it offhand, but you get
the idea) in Origami Omnibus.  In fact, I have used this as a base for
many a long-tailed bird.  I think that this puzzle and its many solutions
come up far more often than people think, expecially so since the blintz
fold is a solution.
        For people who try to create "new" folds from traditional bases,
this off-center approach to bases really adds a twist and opens up a
whole new set of possibilities.  Try to make a model from a base.  Now
use an off-center base and try it again.  Or blintz it and try it again.
Do you see anything different or useful?
--Kevin "I'll get off my soapbox now"





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:02:27 -0400
From: reeds@openix.com (Reeds Family)
Subject: Re: work by Masahiro Chatani

I can't answer any of your questions, but I can testify to the creativity
that was unleashed inmy older daughter when I brought home Paul Jackson's
POP UP BOOK. For weeks   our dinning room table ws covered with index card
pop-ups inspired by Jackson's very clear illustrations
Karen
Karen Reeds
Science/Medicine Editor
Rutgers University Press
Bldg 4161, Livingston Campus
PO Box 5062
New Brunswick NJ 08903-5062
908--445-7762x602
Fax 908--445-7039
reeds@openix.com (for origami)
.>I recently came across some books in our local bookstore's origami
>section by Masahiro Chatani and others where MC refers to the
>items as Origamic Architecture.  It doesn't seem to qualify as
>actual origami (serious amounts of cutting) but it does also have
>a significant amount of folding in a number of the pieces.
>
>Some of the books refer to the items as pop-ups, but this term
>seems inadequate for the amount of folding and scherenschnitte
>work involved in many of them.
>
>So I have three questions:
>1) Does this work have any other names--perhaps in Japanese?
>2) Is there an online group devoted to this type of work?
>3) Is there an offline group devoted to this?
>
>The best books seemed to be:
>A Paradise of Origamic Architecture, Chatani, 4-395-27018-2
>The Pop-Up Book, Paul Jackson
>Pop-Up Greeting Cards, Chatani, 0-87040-733-3
>Best Greeting Cards Pop-Up, Keiko Nakazawa, 0-87040-964-6
>
>Sharon
>gordonse@iac.net





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:18:11 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: more for the poem!

> Do you fold it in mid-air?
>         Can you fold a polar bear?
> Do you fold them in a meeting?
>         When you find you should be eating?
> Do you use your right- or left-brain
>         Do R. Lang's insects cause a migraine?
>
>
> Can you fold a flapping bird?
>      A jumping frog?  A flying hog?
> Do you money fold your tips?
>      Have you even made paper lips?
> I've folded dinosaurs on the train,
>      And Kawasaki's rose on a plane.
> Is your paper rescued trash?
>      Help! I've got paper-cuts and wet-folding rash!

Want a fold that makes you think?
Try a complex triple sink!
Want to give yourselves a thrill?
Buy the book by David Brill!
Want a fold that gives you power?
Fold a crab by Yoshizawa!
Want to score but don't know how? (forgive political-incorrrectness!)
Try a heart from Francis Ow!

Once we get a page full, I'll publish it in the BO magazine!

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:43:00 -0400
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.com
Subject: Re: 12 Steps for Origami

dorigami,,,

> Jack Weres....your 12 steps are hysterical...I belonged to CODA
> (codependents) for a few years so I know the 12 steps well and this poem is
> really funny.  what a great sense of humor you have.  Dorigami

thanks for the comment

i wonder why there were not many responses
to the Origami 12 Steps

maybe people are not willing to break their anonymity???

i thought the "12 Step" Language was heading into the mainstream
so that more people would understand the humor

perhaps i was wrong

either that
or it was not funny

yet another possibility
folding paper has given them serenity
and therefore there is no need to attend 12 step meetings

thanks for your "strength and hope"

  /-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-///plieur de papier\\\-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\
 /=-= jack thomas weres                       jtweres@psp.ih.att.com =-=\





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 23:04:53 -0400
From: schary@VNET.IBM.COM
Subject: Models in Annual Collections..

Hi,
  Sometime back there was a mention that somebody had a zip file which
contained an index to all the models in OUSA's annual collections.
Is this available for distribution please? If yes, can I have a
copy?

Thanks,
Sreenath----------schary@vnet.ibm.com





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 02:43:31 -0400
From: osele@world-net.sct.fr (Osele Vincent)
Subject: RE: models by heart

>I suspect that if you make a real concious effort to remember origami, you
>are losing already!

That exactly true...

> - you must practice visualising your folds, then they
>will stick in your mind. The best place to try, is in bed, just before you
>are fully awake, when you are in that very relaxed state, you should be
>able to visualise very easily. I do a lot of creative folding (virtual
>folding that is) while half asleep. It is probably similar to a hypnotised
>state.
>
>Yes, visualisation is the key..... remember the ancient greek saying...
>
>I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand
>

I will try. Thank you for this advice.

>
> begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT

What is that ?

Vincent...





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 02:45:19 -0400
From: osele@world-net.sct.fr (Osele Vincent)
Subject: Re: Circular Base

>are there models whose base is a circular piece of paper???
>

My wife know something with a circular base: an angel.

But, but, but there are some cuts :-(

Take a circle, cut a small circle in the middle (not all, just keep a small
part). cut from inner to outer (un rayon en fr). Cut (yes I know, but cut
again :-((( two diagonals and fold into a cone-shape, cross the two wings
(done by the two diagonals cuts).
Origami, this?

Vincent...





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 09:38:29 -0400
From: Ninety Six Elementary <frick@emeraldis.com>
Subject: Re: Proper Folding Technique(seuss)

You wrote:
>Do you use your right- or left-brain
>       Do R. Lang's insects cause a migraine?
>
Clever!  Yes they do.  My tick, the paper kind has just resurfaced.  I'm
stuck on step #58.  I'm not sure which brain has failed but I suspect it's
both.  Can anyone out there shed any light on thhis?  My family is beginning
to suspect my sanity because I have spent considerable time playing with
ticks this weekend.

Marsha DuPre





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:29:30 -0400
From: unhinged@yrkpa.kias.com
Subject: York, Central PA club formation

I would like to announce an attempt to form a regional group in Central
PA.  Rachel Urban and I have been kicking the idea around for the last 2
years, and I finally got around to contacting her about it to set a
meeting date.  A formation meeting will be held at the York College
library (here in York, no less) on Saturday, March 9 (? I think - it's
the second weekend) at 10:00 AM.  Anyone who is interested should email
me here to get room information.

Thanks!

Rob Hudson





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:34:42 -0400
From: "M.J.van.Gelder" <M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Searching the archives for messages

I just updated the mail server software at the archives.
You now may search for messages using an expression. Here is the updated
part of the HELP information:

--------
   MESSAGES
      With this action you can query the archived mail for messages.
      You activate it with the command:

         MESSAGES  key

      MVG-MS returns all messages containing key in header or body.
      You may add an expression with more keys if you want:

         MESSAGES  key1 AND key2 OR key3

      MVG-MS returns all messages containing: (key1 AND key2) OR key3

      In building the expression you may use keywords and the special words
      AND, OR, and NOT, and also parentheses. Also the following characters
      are recognized as special (with there meaning):

         * AND      + OR      ! NOT

      To separate two 'words' you may use as many blanks as you like.
      The search (and the whole expression) is case insensitive.
      The precedence rule is simple: from left to right. So the next two
      expressions are the same:

         aaaa and bbbb or cccc
         (aaaa and bbbb ) or cccc
         AAAA AND BBBB OR CCCC
         aaaa*bbbb+cccc
--------
So send a message to:

   origami@ftp.rug.nl

with in the body your search command:

   MESSAGES  ...expression...

Maarten van Gelder,           Rekencentrum RuG,  RijksUniversiteit Groningen
M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl                         Nederland





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:28:40 -0400
From: Iron Will Dawes <wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: new books

  Does anyone know when we can expect to see Montroll's "Mythology and
the Chinese Zodiac" or Lang's "Action Origami"? I've been holding my
breath since I first heard about their pending release in January.
                              -Will(wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu)





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:38:26 -0400
From: jmarcoli@stratacom.COM (John Marcolina)
Subject: Re: Models in Annual Collections..

The list of models available in Annual Collections is available through
Origami USA. I think it costs five dollars.

John Marcolina
jmarcolina@strata.com





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:54:14 -0400
From: David Holmes <cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: new books

On Tue, 27 Feb 1996, Iron Will Dawes wrote:

>   Does anyone know when we can expect to see Montroll's "Mythology and
> the Chinese Zodiac" or Lang's "Action Origami"? I've been holding my
> breath since I first heard about their pending release in January.
>                     -Will(wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu)
>
I'm also looking forward to Lang's "Action Origami".  Does anyone have
more info on this book?

David M Holmes                  cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
British Origami Society        Association of C & C++ Users
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/       (in development)





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:20:25 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami mystique

Kevin: I think that part of the mystique of paper folding has to do with the
interaction it engenders with people.....Sometimes I call it operation smile
because I like bring smiles to peoples faces...the idea is to be subtle about
it....sort of like a magician.  Only a magician does'nt usually have a little
nifty gifty to give away when he finishes his trick....I'll never forget I
saw a guy juggling and so I went over to him and made him a flapping bird.
 He took it in his hand, started flapping it but added a new dimension by
whistling like a bird when it was flapping....I howled with laughter because
it was such a beautiful little interchange...I call it a magical moment and
brief encounter of which I have many because of my love of origami.  Now when
I flap the bird for someone I always give a little bird whistle.  You see,
that unknown never to be seen again fellow gave me a little part of himself
to take with me the rest of my life..  Dorigami





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:21:04 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: New improved archive search

Alex..I can't seem to get the archives you mention as per your instructions.
 I lost some E.mail yesterday and am trying to retrieve it.  What do you
suggest.  Dorigami





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:48:05 -0400
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Subject: Re: Searching the archives for messages

At 10:34 AM 2/27/96 -0400, Maarten van Gelder wrote:
>So send a message to:
>
>   origami@ftp.rug.nl
>

Bravo! van Gelder! I could save some of my disk space for better usage now.

BTW. Is "origami@info.service.rug.nl" server the same as above one?

Thanks a lot!

|-------------------------------------------------------\
|  _  Sy Chen <chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov>    |\
| |_| Folding Page http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm --\





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:48:24 -0400
From: unhinged@yrkpa.kias.com
Subject: Spare Brilliant Origami

I have an extra Brilliant Origami; I ordered one from the store I work
in, and when it didn't arrive right away (I define "right away" as being
a day or less) I ran over to Borders and bought it.  Anyone who is
interested, leave me email.

Rob





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 15:16:59 -0400
From: Triesha@aol.com
Subject: origami paper source

hi all:

found this over on the rubberstampers list.  asked the owner if it was cool
to post here.  he said it was.  he also has washi for sale.  i have no
affiliation w/this company, just know that stampo's a pretty cool guy, and i
always like to pass new paper sources on.

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
////////////////////////////////////////////////

Origami Paper Sets with Instructions:

4103    55 sheets 3 1/2", 4 1/2" and 5 7/8" square      $3.20
 4104    55 sheets 4 1/2", 5 7/8" and 8" square          $4.50
 4105    55 sheets 4 1/2", 5 7/8" and 9 5/8" square      $5.50
 4251    100 sheets 5 7/8" square (without instructions) $6.25
 4252    100 sheets 6 3/4" square (without instructions) $7.50
 4253    100 sheets 9 3/4" square (without instructions) $16.00
 4301    Harmony:  50 sheets/10 colors 4 5/8" square     $2.90
 4302    Harmony:  35 sheets/five colors 6" square       $2.90
 4303    Folk Art:  40 sheets/10 designs 4 5/8" square   $2.90
 4304    Folk Art:  16 sheets/8 designs 6" square        $2.90
 4401    Gold:  50 sheets 4 3/4" square                  $4.10
 4402    Silver:  50 sheets 4 3/4" square                $3.80
 4403    Metallic:  36 sheets/10 colors 5 7/8" square    $4.85

OB2     Origami Book:  Learn to fold with 22 easy step-
        by-step instructions (12 pages)                 $8.75

ON400B  Origami Book:  Six-page step-by-step
        instructions make this book perfect for
        children.                                       $3.75





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:03:59 -0400
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Subject: Re: Models in Annual Collections..

At 12:42 PM 2/27/96 -0400, you wrote:
>The list of models available in Annual Collections is available through
>Origami USA. I think it costs five dollars.
>
>John Marcolina
>jmarcolina@strata.com
>
>

Here is part of my private e-mail with V'ann:
>
>>
>> Hi, V'ANN,
>>
>> What INDEX? Does ORIINDEX include OrigamiUSA Annual collections?
>>
>
>Sy,  I believe that the last file that I sent did include the annual
collections
>from 1988 on.  Someone else posted it for me.
>
>V'Ann
>

I thought I could do model search on annual collections. But each OriIndex
search I did seemed not including it. Could someone square it away for me? TIA.

PS: ORIINDEX here refers to origami model search in mailserver maintained by
Maarten van Gelder.

|-------------------------------------------------------\
|  _  Sy Chen <chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov>    |\
| |_| Folding Page http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm --\





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:07:50 -0400
From: "Londono, Juancarlos (3421)" <J.LONDONO@CGNET.COM>
Subject: RE: inroduction

Hi Oded welcome... please let me know your E-mail address...

Juancarlos
jclondono@cgnet..com
 ----------
From: origami-l
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: inroduction
Date: Monday, February 26, 1996 6:56PM

I noticed that new members inroduce themselves so...

My name is Oded Streigold. I live in Tel-Aviv, Israel, I'm 21 years old.
I serve in the army :-( but I have only 6 months to go :-)
Things that I like ( apart from the ovious ) are: computers,
science, artificial life, science fiction and fantasy books, rock music,
and sleeping.

I designed a few folds of my own, almost all of them geometric, though
I like to fold animal origami just as well.

I love the list because I didn't know any other paper folder before
I joined, though I'd like to *really* meet a folder once.

I think that what's usually attracts people to origami at first, is
curiosity. For example, my brother is cinema student and very creative
at painting and writing, but if I say to him some intriguing fact like:
There are more possible different chess games then there are atoms in
the universe; or: anti matter is a real thing, and not something invented
at Star Trek, and when it touches matter, the two turn into energy -
He'd just say "So what?". You see, he's just not curious as I am.

Well, bye for now!
                       #
 Oded.                  #
                      ###

ps.     I'v got a headache from hitting my head in front of the vcr,
        and I still don't see anything. maybe I try the crunchy food later.





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:17:34 -0400
From: chiug@cognos.com (Grace Chiu)
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment 2 and carrying paper along

A gymnastics judging friend was at my home recently and enjoyed some of my
Fuse boxes.  She insists that I teach her how to fold them, so this past
Sunday, I brought along my "Quick & Easy Origami Boxes" (Fuse) and some paper
to a recreational gym meet.  We were judging bars together so we had lots
of time to fold during warmups and such.  Needless to say, it attracted a lot
of attention from the assistants and the gymnasts.  I ended up lending her the
book to practice for the next meet.

We got to the triangular boxes and noticed that there are 2 page 26-27's
and a missing page 24-25 (I think).  Does anyone know what the protocol is
for getting this remedied? By the bookseller, by the publisher (Japan
Publications, I think),...?  I already know the steps to start the triangular
boxes but my friend doesn't.  I hope they didn't collate all the copies of
this book like this, because I'm recommending that she buy herself the book
which comes sealed in a shrink-wrapped kit and don't want her to end up with
a dud copy too.

Grace
---
Grace Chiu, Enslavened Manager, Technology Support Services,
Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa, ON, Canada
"Do or do not.  There is no 'try'."  -- Yoda





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:00:12 -0400
From: Brian@goodallb.demon.co.uk (Brian J. Goodall)
Subject: Re: Origami Book List (beta version :->)

This is great - Thanks for your work! Pat.  We have the B.O.S. library and it
is so useful to keep track of books which are not always available on local
book shelves or from the B.O.S. supplies list.  The B.O.S. library acts
as an achive for all origami material from any country so this mail on the
internat is proving very interesting.
Margaret ( wife of the B.O.S librarian)
--
Brian J. Goodall             * Experience is what you get when *
Sutton Coldfield             * you're too old to use it!       *
West Midlands                * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:06:59 -0400
From: Brian@goodallb.demon.co.uk (Brian J. Goodall)
Subject: Re: Circular Base

There are a series of books byKeinichi Fukuda called Sunny Origami.  The
author has built up a series of picture based on folded circles. They
were published in 1968  by jomo Kagaku Kogyosha.
Margaret Goodall
--
Brian J. Goodall             * Experience is what you get when *
Sutton Coldfield             * you're too old to use it!       *
West Midlands                * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:12:56 -0400
From: CM317@aol.com
Subject: Re: seuss

Do You Fold Them In The Dark?
     Have You Folded From Your Heart?
Do You Fold In Your Sleep?
     The Stuff I Make I like To Keep.
Have You Folded On a Train?
     Have You Folded In The Rain?
Can You Fold And Talk At The Same Time?
     Do You Fold While Eating a Lime?
Are Your Fingers Full Of Cuts?
     When You Can't Fold, Do You Say "This Sucks"?
Is Your Room Full Of Paper?
     Do You Fold Things For Your Neighbor?

Someone else comtinue... my brain Hurts

-Chris Miller





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:55:32 -0400
From: "Tomlinson, Kristine" <ktomlinson@ccsmtpgw.trinzic.com>
Subject: Any connection between Pure Land folding/Buddhism?

    Hi,

    Here's a question for our international readership!  I'm very
    interested in learning if there is any connection between Pure Land
    folding (mountain and valley folds only) and Pure Land Buddhism found
    in China since the 6th century and Japan since the 13th (?).

    The very words "mountain" and "valley" suggest Chinese Feng Shui
    (geomancy) or Japanese Shintoism to me -- both of which predate Pure
    Land Buddhism.  The fact that senkashi paper was developed in a Pure
    Land Buddhist temple (Anraku) also hints at a connection.  But then
    lots of paper seems to have been developed in temples. And, of course,
    the Chinese characters for mountain and valley used in folding diagrams
    suggest the words have been used for a long time.

    Is there any historical connection, or is Pure Land folding a recent
    term used because it's a clever way to describe this type of folding? I
    first saw it on John Smith's book titles. Can any of you shed light on
    this?

    Thanks,

    Kristine Tomlinson
    ktomlinson@trinzic.com
    (USA)





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 20:59:10 -0400
From: jwu@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Wu)
Subject: Re: more for the poem!

At 10:18 PM 96.2.26, Nick Robinson wrote:
>> Do you fold it in mid-air?
>>         Can you fold a polar bear?
>> Do you fold them in a meeting?
>>         When you find you should be eating?
>> Do you use your right- or left-brain
>>         Do R. Lang's insects cause a migraine?
>>
>>
>> Can you fold a flapping bird?
>>      A jumping frog?  A flying hog?
>> Do you money fold your tips?
>>      Have you even made paper lips?
>> I've folded dinosaurs on the train,
>>      And Kawasaki's rose on a plane.
>> Is your paper rescued trash?
>>      Help! I've got paper-cuts and wet-folding rash!
>
>
>Want a fold that makes you think?
>Try a complex triple sink!
>Want to give yourselves a thrill?
>Buy the book by David Brill!
>Want a fold that gives you power?
>Fold a crab by Yoshizawa!
>Want to score but don't know how? (forgive political-incorrrectness!)
>Try a heart from Francis Ow!

Can you fold a pink banana,     <just had to throw this one in>
  Out of a polka-dot bandana?

If you don't know what to do,
  Make some cranes of varied hue.
Crease from any point of view,
  Without using any glue.
And for something rather new,
  Try deg farrelly's high-heel shoe.
It can make your sweetheart coo,
  And (s)he might even come kiss you.
Engel's got a kangaroo,
  Montroll's Holstein might say moo.
Yoshizawa's got one too,
  But don't copy or he'll sue.
With all these critters in the crew,
  We should open up a zoo.
And aren't you glad we're fin'lly through
  With these "oo" rhymes by Joe Wu?

<I could go on, but I'm kinda sick of these, also.>

 Joseph Wu                      Webmaster of the Origami Page
<jwu@cs.ubc.ca> <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
  Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view.
  Explore the vessel. Make friends with the Captain. Fish a
  little. And then get off when you get Home.  --Max Lucado





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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 23:31:28 -0400
From: Jonathan Jacobs <pigpen@u.washington.edu>
Subject: I'm de-lurking finally ...

        Hi all,

        I'm finally going to de-lurk here.  (It feels like I'm in one of
those Frosted Flakes commercials ...)

        First off, I'll go by 'Jon'.  I'm 21, with one more quarter of
school to finish off a math major.  (Yeah, another one ...)  (And yeah, I
plan to go on in school.  Hope to teach high-school/college someday
(maybe in Brazil or somewhere nutty).)  I've been with origami (or has it
been with me) for at least a dozen years, with a couple of easy Kasahara
books.  It's only been the last three or so years that I've spent real
time folding.  Favorite models are consistently Montroll or Lang - but I
don't have too many sources.  Now I'm looking for challenges beyond the
Montroll models, currently working in Lang's _Insects..._.

        I feel I can finally present myself since I have just finished
folding 1000 cranes (out of 50mm x 50mm paper), and now need only string
them (and hang them from a cherry tree planted last summer to honor an
old friend).  I must say, that after folding these cranes (usually during
class), that I doubt I'll ever shake my routine.

        I'm right-handed, left-legged, left-eyed.  I enjoy other
artsy/craftsy stuff (watercolor, playing 'cello, photography).  I also
enjoy outdoor activities (hiking, rock-climbing, frisbee).  I spend
non-folding class-time working over crossword puzzles and the like (Games
magazine, for those who know).  Music tastes include all kinds (from all
parts of the globe), except rap or country.  And, as I said, math major
(and, pretty much, linguistics minor).  That ought to conclude the
survey/statistics topics.

        I keep a good supply of 50mm x 50mm paper in my sweatshirt pocket
at all times, and fold when I'm in lines or on the bus.  While folding
the cranes, I practiced one-handed, and was equally competent with each
hand (and not even twice as slow as with both hands!).  I haven't
succeeded in folding a passable crane with my eyes closed, but haven't
really tried.  I've used this small paper mostly for cranes and
Takahama's rose brooches (from the Biddle's _The New Origami_), but have
also folded a Montroll's turtle, frog, sunfish, toucan, and elasmosaurus
(from the _for the Enthusiast_ and _Prehistoric_ books) and most
recently, Lang's ant and hungry tick (from _Insects_).  Most of these
small models turn out to be around 3/4 inches long.

        Questions from Lang's _Insects_, if anybody is still with me
here.  For some reason, whenever I fold the ant, the head never turns out
right.  I really don't see what supposed to be going on at the end (step
84) with the wrapping of layers.  It never turns out quite right.  And
some advice; if it's your first time trying to fold the tick, use paper
bigger than 50mm x 50mm.  Now I know.

        Thanks for listening.  Next time I have something to say, you can
rest assured that I'll keep it brief.

                              -Jon Jacobs  (pigpen@u.washington.edu)

        P.S.  What is the most popular paper size?  I almost exclusively
use 6" x 6", which be a pain for first time Lang models ...





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 00:02:20 -0400
From: megazine@usa.net
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Current Issue of miniatura

all things small

The latest FREE issue of miniatura (2\1\96) is now available from P.publishing
(formerly MegaZine).  This journal is a Portable Document Format (PDF)
file.  You will need an Adobe Acrobat Reader for viewing, reading, and
printing miniatura.  A FREE copy of Reader is available from Adobe Systems, Inc.
(http://www.adobe.com).

Look for Issue No. 2\1\96 of miniatura: http://www.p-pub.com

Kathy Prochnow
Senior Editor
miniatura
MsKathy@p-pub.com





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 01:07:17 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Current Issue of miniatura

Dear Kathy,

Please help keep the spam off the origami-l mailing list. This list is for
origami-related material, not magazine announcements. (Although if the issue
in question actually has something about origami, my apologies but you should
have mentioned it.)

Sincerely yours,

Robert J. Lang
rjlang@aol.com

-----------------------------------------------------------------

all things small

The latest FREE issue of miniatura (2\1\96) is now available from
P.publishing
(formerly MegaZine).  This journal is a Portable Document Format (PDF)
file.  You will need an Adobe Acrobat Reader for viewing, reading, and
printing miniatura.  A FREE copy of Reader is available from Adobe Systems,
Inc.
(http://www.adobe.com).

Look for Issue No. 2\1\96 of miniatura: http://www.p-pub.com

Kathy Prochnow
Senior Editor
miniatura
MsKathy@p-pub.com





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 01:59:50 -0400
From: "Kathy D. Sams" <kds@Interpath.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Current Issue of miniatura

At 01:07 AM 2/28/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Dear Kathy,
>
>Please help keep the spam off the origami-l mailing list. This list is for
>origami-related material, not magazine announcements. (Although if the issue
>in question actually has something about origami, my apologies but you should
>have mentioned it.)
>
>Sincerely yours,
>
>Robert J. Lang
>rjlang@aol.com
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>all things small
>
>The latest FREE issue of miniatura (2\1\96) is now available from
>P.publishing
>(formerly MegaZine).  This journal is a Portable Document Format (PDF)
>file.  You will need an Adobe Acrobat Reader for viewing, reading, and
>printing miniatura.  A FREE copy of Reader is available from Adobe Systems,
>Inc.
>(http://www.adobe.com).
>
>Look for Issue No. 2\1\96 of miniatura: http://www.p-pub.com
>
>
>Kathy Prochnow
>Senior Editor
>miniatura
>MsKathy@p-pub.com
>
>

Why did you send me this?  I have never ever replied to this list!

Kathy D. Sams
kds@mail-hub.interpath.net
****************************************************************************
*********
*
*   Our lives begin to end when we become silent about the things that
matter.     *





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 06:41:35 -0400
From: chee.tang@eng.ox.ac.uk (Chee Tang)
Subject: Books by Francis Ow

Hi,

I greatly admire the heart designs by Francis Ow. I recently folded
a double heart design for St. Valentine's Day, which was well received.

Can anyone out there provide information about the books of heart designs
he has published, i.e. title, publisher, ISBN, etc.?

Thanks in advance,

Chee.





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 07:16:39 -0400
From: Alex Bateman <agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: New improved archive search

DORIGAMI@aol.com wrote:
>
> Alex..I can't seem to get the archives you mention as per your instructions.
>  I lost some E.mail yesterday and am trying to retrieve it.  What do you
> suggest.  Dorigami

Hi there,
         Are you pointing your web browser to this address?
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/origami.html

Check it is not some other address such as sonja.acad.cai etc.
If the address is correct try pressing the reload button on your
browser, you may have an old version of the page in your disk
cache.
Let me know if you still have problems

Bye for now
Alex

--
- Alex Bateman
- MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
- agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
- Phone: (01223) 402479
- http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/origami.html





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 07:33:38 -0400
From: reeds@openix.com (Reeds Family)
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment 2 and carrying paper along

Any publisher should be glad to exchange your defective copy for an intact
one. The bookseller will be too, but it's faster to go directly to the
publisher. The publisher will want to know about the problem in order to
check whether it's just the odd copy witht he problem, or whether it
persists throughout the printrun.

 The problem happens at the bindery--when the timingof the machine that
throws together the stack of signatures (a signature is a set of folded
pages--there's an origami aspect to book-production--most often 8pp, but
here, apparently, just a single sheet)  to form one copy of the book gets
off slightly and it throws two copies of one signature in and omits the
next. Somewhere there's probably a copy with the equal but opposite
mistake. It's most likely to happen at the beginning or end of a printrun,
I'm told.
Karen
Karen Reeds
Science/Medicine Editor
Rutgers University Press
Bldg 4161, Livingston Campus
PO Box 5062
New Brunswick NJ 08903-5062
908--445-7762x602
Fax 908--445-7039
reeds@openix.com (for origami)

 >A gymnastics judging friend was at my home recently and enjoyed some of my
>Fuse boxes.  She insists that I teach her how to fold them, so this past
>Sunday, I brought along my "Quick & Easy Origami Boxes" (Fuse) and some paper
>to a recreational gym meet.  We were judging bars together so we had lots
>of time to fold during warmups and such.  Needless to say, it attracted a lot
>of attention from the assistants and the gymnasts.  I ended up lending her the
>book to practice for the next meet.
>
>We got to the triangular boxes and noticed that there are 2 page 26-27's
>and a missing page 24-25 (I think).  Does anyone know what the protocol is
>for getting this remedied? By the bookseller, by the publisher (Japan
>Publications, I think),...?  I already know the steps to start the triangular
>boxes but my friend doesn't.  I hope they didn't collate all the copies of
>this book like this, because I'm recommending that she buy herself the book
>which comes sealed in a shrink-wrapped kit and don't want her to end up with
>a dud copy too.
>
>Grace
>---
>Grace Chiu, Enslavened Manager, Technology Support Services,
>Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa, ON, Canada
>"Do or do not.  There is no 'try'."  -- Yoda





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:33:44 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Current Issue of miniatura

>Dear Kathy,
>
>Please help keep the spam off...

Whoops! Sorry folks, I meant to send my chide only to the original poster but
forgot to swap the reply address.

Robert





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:51:54 -0400
From: contract@pipeline.com (Contractors Exchange)
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Current Issue of miniatura

On Feb 28, 1996 01:07:17, 'Rjlang@aol.com' wrote:

>Dear Kathy,
>
>Please help keep the spam off the origami-l mailing list. This list is for

>origami-related material, not magazine announcements. (Although if the
issue
>in question actually has something about origami, my apologies but you
should
>have mentioned it.)
>
>(http://www.adobe.com).
>
>Look for Issue No. 2\1\96 of miniatura: http://www.p-pub.com

I checked out the site, and there is a picture of origami cranes, with a
web address leading to instructions on how to fold it@
http://www.csi.ad.jp/suzuhari-es/1000cranes/paperc/index.html

Marc





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:10:20 -0400
From: "M.J.van.Gelder" <M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Re: Searching the archives for messages

m> >So send a message to:
m> >
m> >   origami@ftp.rug.nl
m> >
m>
m> Bravo! van Gelder! I could save some of my disk space for better usage now.
m>
m> BTW. Is "origami@info.service.rug.nl" server the same as above one?

No, origami@info.service.rug.nl doesn't exist any more. The archives are
moved to ftp.rug.nl, as is the mail server on the archives.

So to get HELP information on the Message Searching send a message to

   origami@ftp.rug.nl

with in the body:

   message /help
   stop

Maarten van Gelder,           Rekencentrum RuG,  RijksUniversiteit Groningen
M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl                         Nederland





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:38:18 -0400
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.com
Subject: Re: Origami 12 Steps

jennifer,,,

thanks for your email

as you can see
i've "bumper stickered" my signature to include 2 slogans

sorry for the general post
but private email bounced

  /-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-///plieur de papier\\\-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\
 /=-= jack thomas weres                       jtweres@psp.ih.att.com =-=\
/=======================\\\================///===========================\
"Let Go and Let Fold"                               "One Crease At A Time"





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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:07:37 -0400
From: Michael Adcock <adcock@Menudo.UH.EDU>
Subject: Origami and Technology

Hello all,

  I'm a computer science major at University of Houston, Texas. I'm also in
the Honors College, and as a result, I get to take all sorts of 'interesting'
classes. Anyhow, I've got a paper to write (just 10 pages or so), in my
Technology and Western Culture class. I mentioned to the professor that I
might like to incorporate origami into a paper, and he liked the idea.

  I've got a copy of Engel's Folding the Universe. It's got a great little
section on the history of origami and its spread. I'm going to start checking
on the books in the bibliography. Does anyone have any books they'd recommend?

  Basically, I'm thinking about relating the spread of origami to the spread
of other ideas and technology. Since practical uses are being found for origami
ideas and techniques today, I wonder if anyone in the past has learned
something useful from origami? (Not to say that origami isn't useful!!)

  I'm open to ideas, and I've got a bit of time. The prospectus for the paper
is due next week, so I guess I need to decide what angle I'm going to take
with this...

Ideas and sources would be appreciated... :)

Michael

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Michael Adcock (a.k.a. Blackadder)
adcock@menudo.uh.edu
