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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:09:44 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re: gacky handedness

another thought on the origins of "gacky" - didn't Bill the Cat tend to say
"gack" all the time (as he coughed up hairballs? Really Gacky!)





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:17:07 -0400
From: "MARGARET M. BARBER" <mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
Subject: RE: Crane Print Cloth?

I looked at the crane tie that I bought for my husband during my last
trip to Boston -- On the back it says, "Made exclusively for the Boston
Museum of Fine Art" and "made in Korea"  So much for fabric source.  The
fabric is soft, beautiful, textured silk.  Wish it were possible to
locate this stuff... Ah well
Peg Barber
mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:23:27 -0400
From: Gretchen Klotz <gren@agora.rdrop.com>
Subject: Valerie Vann is my (Lexan) Hero!

Well, I guess the subject should be "The Wonders of Lexan Squares"  or
something, but I couldn't resist honoring Valerie for her suggestion a
couple months ago to upgrade my 6" acrylic square to lexan.  I am cutting
lots (and I do mean *lots*) of paper today, in preparation for a craft
show 3/2 in Bellevue, WA.  The lexan square doesn't slip as much as the
acrylic one, and the exacto blade doesn't (can't!) cut into it.  The lexan
square cost all of $2 (the acrylic was $1).  I don't think it's *exactly*
square, but the paper I'm cutting is so thick it doesn't matter -- it's
impossible to fold precisely (especially all the layers of boxes).  I'll
test it on thinner paper when I have more time to play around, and sand it
lightly (we're talking not square by a hair) if needed.

So if you can't afford a nice big rotary cutting board and haven't gotten
your lexan square already, look under Plastics in your yellow pages and
order your own in whatever sizes you like.  I really can't recommend it
highly enough!  Thank you, Valerie!!! :-)

- Gretchen

P.S.  I will be out of touch until next Weds, and probably not (ha!)
writing much until after the Alternative ArtFest *next* weekend.

--
gren@agora.rdrop.com         http://www.ogi.edu/~gren/





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:46:55 -0400
From: ACPQUINN@myriad.middlebury.edu
Subject: Re: gacky handedness

No, that was "Ack!" or "OopAck!" or "Ack! Thbppt!"
Obviously a dialect unknown to any dictionary of etymology and probably not
the source of the word "gacky"
just my $0.02
-Alasdair





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 21:41:10 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: models by heart

Oh, by the way.....

Sy Chen wrote...
I really admire Laurie's stunning memory. I will vote her as the most
treasurable live museum.

Thanks Sy Chen, but the HER in question here is a HIM. - Laurie is short for
     Lawrence.





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:35:17 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: Seuss

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> Do you fold it in mid-air?
>         Can you fold a polar bear?
> Do you fold them in a meeting?
>         When you find you should be eating?
> Do you use your right- or left-brain
>         Do R. Lang's insects cause a migraine?
>

Can you fold a flapping bird?
     A jumping frog?  A flying hog?
Do you money fold your tips?
     Have you even made paper lips?
I've folded dinosaurs on the train,
     And Kawasaki's rose on a plane.
Is your paper rescued trash?
     Help! I've got paper-cuts and wet-folding rash!

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 22:58:54 -0400
From: James_Sakoda@Brown.edu (James Minoru Sakoda)
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment

>>
>> How many of you carry around a few squares of origami paper so you can
>> fold if you get a spare moment?
>
I always try to carry 5 or 6 inch foil paper with me.  I used to carry them
in a notebook in myh shirt pocket, but I now use a pocketbook which I fold
from letter size paper, a development from my recent work on paper hats,
which I taught to a karate group.    In addition to holding  paper there is
a slot for a pen.  I try to fold whenever I can--in waiting lines, on
trips, in restaurants, doctor's offices, business meetings.  Not only does
it provide an opportunity to practice folding, but also provides
entertainment or a present for someone who takes an interest in what you
are doing.  Sometimes it takes a while to build up a little display before
they catch on to what you are doing.  I have some favorites, mostly from
Modern Origami, which I like to fold for presents.  These usually don't
take too long to fold and are attractive--flapping bird. owl, turtle,
bugeyed frog, standing crane, nun, praying mantis, pushmi-pullyu or double
headed horse, bird base rose, elephant, pegasus.  Many of these are folded
from the eight point star folded by sinking the center point of a bird
base.  Also, I use the opportunity to practice or develop something that I
am working on currently.  I also fold in the evening when watching
television.  This sometimes interferes with the viewing, particularly when
it is a Japanese video tape which I need to pay close attention to in order
to understand what is going on.  I usually carry around a shrunken dollar
bill or a recently completed piece.  I would advise those who feel they
don't have time to fold to take advantage of spare moments which are
available.  At origami meetings also it is surprising that many folders do
not take the opportunity to fold.  As soon as one gets started, usually one
or two interested parties will look in and then ask to be shown how it's
done.  One can do more teaching and learning out of the classroom situation
than in it.  James Minoru Sakoda





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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 00:10:25 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: 3-dimensional imagination?

In article: <199602212122.QAA05623@tornade.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
casida@ere.umontreal.ca writes:

> Does the ability to do origami correlate with a good 3-dimensional
> imagination?

I'd have said not, in most cases. Sinks & incomplete crimps are the main 3D
elements & don't crop up in simple designs.

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 00:22:22 -0400
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (S.Y. Chen)
Subject: RE: models by heart

Sorry, Laurie. I did find the mistake after hitting the send key. I apologize.

Sy





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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 00:44:43 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment 2

Kevin....I have a patter that I use when folding and this keeps the watchers
busy.....Sometimes I just tell them what I'm doing as I do it.....Sometimes I
say "keep watching.  You're going to be tested.  If they are not interested
in watching, then when I am finished I just present it to them by asking them
to put out their hand palm up, put in their hand and say, Now we are
friends.......If I see them ten years later, they often remember me and I
find this fun.  Dorigami





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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 01:54:13 -0400
From: Namir Gharaibeh <U50879@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Re: gacky handedness

Opus, Bill, is that you? :)

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Me and the world, see, we got  :            Namir Gharaibeh           |
|     this understanding.        :     a.k.a.  U50879@uicvm.uic.edu     |
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 02:16:45 -0400
From: Namir Gharaibeh <U50879@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment 2

This might off the thread, but has anyone ever met any folders or
witnessed what DORIGAMI does?  In my piddling 23 years, never have I met
another who folds on the "el".  :( (I mean, aside from meetings and
conventions and such.)  Only the one person who originally got me
hooked in the first place!





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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 02:28:50 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: gacky handedness

Dee said...
I always thought "cack-handed" meant you did something on the fly that worked.
For example your car breaks down and you fix it with some chewing gum and
baling wire - cack-handed... I'm not British though...

Dee, I'm not British either, but we would say that type of fix is 'Heath
     Robinson'
or 'Jury Rigged'

Laurie Bisman
lbisman@sirranet.co.nz





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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 02:47:01 -0400
From: osele@world-net.sct.fr (Osele Vincent)
Subject: Re: New improved archive search

>Hello all,
>          I have now improved my keyword search of the Origami-l
>archives to allow a search with two keywords linked with and, or and
>not. The search now includes archivess up to 15 Feb 1996. Try it out at
>
>http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/origami.html
>

Thanks for you job, it is very usefull...

Vincent...





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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:24:24 -0400
From: Maumoy@aol.com
Subject: Aptitudes and Right/Left dominance

In 1982 I was tested by the Johnson O'Connor Research Foundation.  I showed a
very strong aptitude for structural visualization.   In discussing the
results with the counselor, I mentioned my interests in puzzles and origami
and related that to my aptitude.

Another finding was a very strong left eye laterality.  They were surprised I
was right handed.  Although I write with my right hand, my penmanship is good
(but slow) with my left hand.  I usually pick up the phone receiver with my
left hand.  The space planners at work were always amazed by my insistence on
an office with the desk, computer, lamp, and phone aligned on the left side.
 I learned somewhere that reading lamps and windows should be on the left for
right handed persons in order not to cast a shadow when writing.

J-O tests people to determine their aptitudes in relation to those aptitudes
which are characteristic of certain occupations.  Structural visualization is
used in architecture, engineering, computer science and medicine.   It would
be interesting if they would test paperfolders to see what aptitudes we have
in common but I don't know what a study would cost.  They have done studies
for a machinery company in Detroit and schools in Atlanta.  Results are
compared with other people of similar ages who have been tested, not the
general population.  The 2 1/2 days of tests costs about $500 and are
available in major US cities.

J-O recommended I consider becoming a computer specialist, patent attorney or
get a MA in management science.  Instead I  used those structural skills in
origami.

Two other tests which might be used to classify paper folders are Myers
Briggs and the Kolbe.  The latter was used to choose Phoenix Suns players.

Marcia Mau
Maumoy@aol.com





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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:12:59 -0400
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.com
Subject: Circular Base

are there models whose base is a circular piece of paper???

  /-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-///plieur de papier\\\-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\
 /=-= jack thomas weres                       jtweres@psp.ih.att.com =-=\





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 00:02:48 -0400
From: altj@cix.compulink.co.uk (Al Jardes)
Subject: Re: Circular Base
funny thing about circular paper, once you fold it,
it is no longer circular

roc





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 00:02:00 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: Circular Base

>are there models whose base is a circular piece of paper???
>
I remember a pinwheel/zinnia in Kasahara and Alice Grey's "The Magic of
Origami".

But....Eric Kenneway's "Complete Origami" book  says that Fred Rohm pointed
out that "as soon as a fold is placed in the material the paperfolder is
confronted with a straight edge as usual -- and the circularity of the
paper becomes either an inconvenience or irrelevant."

I find this an interesting point...but I'm not sure if it is true.

Related to this question...I would like to know what you can fold from a
tortilla (which is mentioned in the section on paper in Robert Lang's
"Origami Animals"). I have to make tortillas almost every day (a household
staple), so folding them seems like a skill I should develop, no?

pat slider.





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 00:03:19 -0400
From: Sandra Hoffman <ghidra@magi.com>
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment 2

On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Namir Gharaibeh wrote:

> This might off the thread, but has anyone ever met any folders or
> witnessed what DORIGAMI does?  In my piddling 23 years, never have I met
> another who folds on the "el".  :( (I mean, aside from meetings and
> conventions and such.)  Only the one person who originally got me
> hooked in the first place!
>

I have never, ever seen any other folder anywhere, anytime. I attract a
fair bit of attention when I fold in public. Mostly I just fold to
entertain my son who hates taking lessons of any kind, while we wait for
my daughter who really likes taking lessons of almost any kind. Ever
since he was about 2 (he's six now) he would pick what he wanted me to make,
then sit
quietly while I folded the model, then pick the next one before going off
to play with the first one. We were rearranging furniture earlier today
and I found a penguin I had folded for him months ago, still in good shape.

sph

ghidra@magi.com

"This will do," said the bunyip to himself.
"No one can see me here. I can be as handsome as I like.





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 00:24:12 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Circular Base

Al Jardes wrote...

funny thing about circular paper, once you fold it,
it is no longer circular

As a matter of fact, once you fold a square, it is no longer a square.....

But here's a little puzzle for all of you,

How can I start with a 5 cm square, fold it so as to reduce its surface
area by half and still end up with a square that still stands 5 cm tall?

I will post the answer in a day or so if nobody gets it.

Laurie Bisman
lbisman@sirranet.co.nz





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 00:28:14 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: Circular Base

>>are there models whose base is a circular piece of paper???
>>
>I remember a pinwheel/zinnia in Kasahara and Alice Grey's "The Magic of
>Origami".

Come to think of it, the zinnia was an octagon...but I think there is a
circular one in there somewhere.

pat slider.





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 01:25:01 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment 2

actually, no I have never met anyone else who folds on buses, trains or planes.
Sometimes, when *I* start to fold, someone will ask to borrow paper, or tell
me that they know someone who folds, etc., but I have never seen anyone else
folding that way...

Dee





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 01:43:36 -0400
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: RE: Folding puzzle

>But here's a little puzzle for all of you,
>
>How can I start with a 5 cm square, fold it so as to reduce its surface
>area by half and still end up with a square that still stands 5 cm tall?
>
>I will post the answer in a day or so if nobody gets it.

How about folding it in half horizontally and then standing the paper on its
side?

-Eric  :-P

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         A                    ---------------+---------------
        /|\                             ___ /^^[___              _
       / | \      ------>              /|^+----+   |#___________//
      /__|__\     Repeat             ( -+ |____|    ______-----+/
      \  |  /      steps              ==_________--'            \
       \ | /        9 to 658            ~_|___|__
        \|/          behind...
         V                                            Eric Andersen
     Bird Base           http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric/origami





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 02:47:33 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Folding puzzle

Sorry Eric, but folding it in half either way will give you a rectangle, not a
     square.

----------
From:   Eric Andersen[SMTP:Eric_Andersen@brown.edu]
Sent:   Sunday, 25 February 1996 06:43
To:     Multiple recipients of list
Subject:        RE: Folding puzzle

>But here's a little puzzle for all of you,
>
>How can I start with a 5 cm square, fold it so as to reduce its surface
>area by half and still end up with a square that still stands 5 cm tall?
>
>I will post the answer in a day or so if nobody gets it.

How about folding it in half horizontally and then standing the paper on its
side?





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 04:31:31 -0400
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: RE: Folding puzzle

At 02:47 AM 2/25/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Sorry Eric, but folding it in half either way will give you a rectangle,
not a square.
>
>>But here's a little puzzle for all of you,
>>
>>How can I start with a 5 cm square, fold it so as to reduce its surface
>>area by half and still end up with a square that still stands 5 cm tall?

Then how about blintz-folding? If you fold all four corners to the center,
then you have halved the surface area but the diagonal is still 5cm. Now if
you place one tip of your blintz-fold on the table and place your finger on
the opposite tip, you have a square that is still "standing" 5cm tall
(albeit with much help from you)...

-Eric  :-P

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         A                   A
        /|\            \    /|\              More
       / | \            \\ / | \ /7\          origami
      /__|__\            \/__|__\/             ascii-art
      \  |  /             \_/ \_/               to come...
       \ | /             Flapping
        \|/                bird
         V                                            Eric Andersen
     Bird Base           http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric/origami





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 07:06:03 -0400
From: Kevin Park <prank@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: RE: Folding puzzle

On Sun, 25 Feb 1996, Laurie Bisman wrote:
>
> >But here's a little puzzle for all of you,
> >
> >How can I start with a 5 cm square, fold it so as to reduce its surface
> >area by half and still end up with a square that still stands 5 cm tall?
> >
> >I will post the answer in a day or so if nobody gets it.
>
        Well, if you fold in two adjacent sides equally such that the
diagonal of the new square is 5cm you get a square such described if the
square is stood on a corner.  The best thing about this puzzle is that it
can be done quite easily with any square sheet of paper (three folds max,
but you can do it in two and a half), just replace "5cm" with the length
of a side of the square in question.
        Being able to do it with paper alone is quite a bonus (!!).





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 09:51:16 -0400
From: Penny Groom <penny@sector.demon.co.uk>
Subject: BOS Convention

The deadline for the 10% discount is March 1st. Anyone who has not
booked  and wants to needs to get their skates on.

Any overseas members, that's Europe and the rest of the world(and you
Eire) can pay by credit card, so it's really easy, you don't even need
to buy a stamp.

If you want a form to look at and decide, just tell me and I'll send you
one down the line.

Hope lots of you decide to join us,

Just one more thing, I don't think we should be sending people's snail
mail addresses over here, rather get someone who knows the person to
ring them (or forward a letter) first and tell them whatever the person
wants to know and leave it up to them to make contact if they want. This
is what we do in the BOS if people don't want to be on the membership
list and who's to say that people we discuss on this list want to have
their addresses given to the list.

All the best
Penny

Membership Secretary British Origami Society

penny@sector.demon.co.uk    (internet address added just for you Jan!)





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 10:59:26 -0400
From: altj@cix.compulink.co.uk (Al Jardes)
Subject: RE: Circular Base
yes but, once a square is folded you may continue to produce a square
from it though with ever smaller dimensions, the circle cannot be
reconstructed even at smaller dimensions.

r





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:48:17 -0400
From: "MARGARET M. BARBER" <mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment 2

I have never seen others folding on bus, train, etc.  I have always
folded at home either by myself or with my daughter.

I felt as if I were coming home on the first day of last year's Origami
USA convention...  I woke up early - too excited to sleep any more. I
walked down to the corner diner from the FIT dorm and as I passed the
windows of the diner, at every table were people folding - it was quite
a wonderful experience for me to find so many people all folding in one
place.  The rest of the weekend did not disappoint!

Peg Barber
mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 14:39:02 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Folding puzzle

Yes, you have solved it Eric...
      Then how about blintz-folding? If you fold all four corners to the center,
then you have halved the surface area but the diagonal is still 5cm. Now if
you place one tip of your blintz-fold on the table and place your finger on
the opposite tip, you have a square that is still "standing" 5cm tall
(albeit with much help from you)...





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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 14:41:28 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Folding puzzle

Yes, you too have solved it (I think you are referring to blintzing the square)
     Kevin,

        Well, if you fold in two adjacent sides equally such that the
diagonal of the new square is 5cm you get a square such described if the
square is stood on a corner.  The best thing about this puzzle is that it
can be done quite easily with any square sheet of paper (three folds max,
but you can do it in two and a half), just replace "5cm" with the length
of a side of the square in question.
        Being able to do it with paper alone is quite a bonus (!!).






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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:36:42 -0400
From: Namir Gharaibeh <U50879@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Myers Briggs/subway folding

Two subjects in one!  On this subject on creativity and stuff, I have
it from very good authority (my Sociology/Psychology degree toting
fiance) that creativity may be linked to one or more of the 16
Myers-Briggs personality types.  Albiet this may mean nothing to those
who don't know what the MBPT are, but still...  She says that certain
types may be more conducive to creating than others.  Some types might
be more creative in certain ways, like more mathimatical creativity,
or more artistic creativity.
     Also, not to dig a whole, but it is a proven fact that females
are better at spatial orientation.  This might have some part to play
in creativity.





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:14:01 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment 2

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> This might off the thread, but has anyone ever met any folders or
> witnessed what DORIGAMI does?  In my piddling 23 years, never have I
met
> another who folds on the "el".  :( (I mean, aside from meetings and
> conventions and such.)  Only the one person who originally got me
> hooked in the first place!

I have run into folders in several locations - usually waiters at
restaurants or on cruise ships.  I also saw a Japanese gentleman
folding on a plane to amuse some children in the next row, and I have
seen Dorothy Kaplan do a presentation at Borders Bookstore.

Of course, I have been known to fold on the train to and from NYC
(anxious to try out some of the new books I bought at the convention),
and on the T in Boston (also anxious to try out new books from Sasuga),
and on planes when I am traveling alone on business trips (keeps me
from getting too nervous about presentations I have to make).

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47B@prodigy.com





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:16:58 -0400
From: reeds@openix.COM (Reeds Family)
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment 2 and carrying paper along

Yes! I think I've told this story before on the list, but it's worth
repeating:  On the train from Washington to Metropark about 2-3 years ago,
it was too dark and I was too tired to read, but not too dark to doodle
with colorfrul ad pages torn from the Amtrak magazine (I like to use found
paper, but my Eagle Creek  packback that converts into a semi-respectable
briefcase has a wonderful pocket to hide the back straps that almost always
holds several packets of origami paper, a few spare dollar bills, plus a
sandwich baggie for newly invented models). Somenone passed by,paused as he
saw what I was doing--a kind of modular frame-- and then came back and
introduced himself as a fellow folder on his way to visit the Origami
Center for the first time. He turned out to be a lawyer/magician from LA,
Michael Webber--we quickly discovered we had a good friend in common, the
Harvard statistician/magician, Persi Diaconis. He whisked out a few squares
of very thin crisp tissue paper (like hamburger dividers, but thinner,
finer) and taught me a wonderful stemmed rose with leaf--twisted, rather
than folded. With his magician's art, he has treated the paper to turn red
when he dips the edge into water or wine.

I've lost his address twice--Michael Webber, if you're on the list, Thank
you! ! I've enchanted any number of people, calmed restless children,
thanked waiters and sales clerks with that rose since then.

Karen
Karen Reeds
Science/Medicine Editor
Rutgers University Press
Bldg 4161, Livingston Campus
PO Box 5062
New Brunswick NJ 08903-5062
908--445-7762x602
Fax 908--445-7039
reeds@openix.com (for origami)

  >This might off the thread, but has anyone ever met any folders or
>witnessed what DORIGAMI does?  In my piddling 23 years, never have I met
>another who folds on the "el".  :( (I mean, aside from meetings and
>conventions and such.)  Only the one person who originally got me
>hooked in the first place!





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:18:43 -0400
From: gordonse@iac.NET (Sharon Gordon)
Subject: work by Masahiro Chatani

I recently came across some books in our local bookstore's origami
section by Masahiro Chatani and others where MC refers to the
items as Origamic Architecture.  It doesn't seem to qualify as
actual origami (serious amounts of cutting) but it does also have
a significant amount of folding in a number of the pieces.

Some of the books refer to the items as pop-ups, but this term
seems inadequate for the amount of folding and scherenschnitte
work involved in many of them.

So I have three questions:
1) Does this work have any other names--perhaps in Japanese?
2) Is there an online group devoted to this type of work?
3) Is there an offline group devoted to this?

The best books seemed to be:
A Paradise of Origamic Architecture, Chatani, 4-395-27018-2
The Pop-Up Book, Paul Jackson
Pop-Up Greeting Cards, Chatani, 0-87040-733-3
Best Greeting Cards Pop-Up, Keiko Nakazawa, 0-87040-964-6

Sharon
gordonse@iac.net





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:20:30 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: 12 Steps for Origami2

Jack Weres....your 12 steps are hysterical...I belonged to CODA
(codependents) for a few years so I know the 12 steps well and this poem is
really funny.  what a great sense of humor you have.  Dorigami





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:22:11 -0400
From: Namir Gharaibeh <U50879@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Folding outside the home

On this subject on folding on trains, in lines at the ATM, in class,
etc.  i carry around a ream (500 sheets) of paper in a cube.  It's
really "cute" paper at 4 cm square. I leave little models around,
mostly traditionals like cranes, frogs, etc, and watch people's reactions.

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Me and the world, see, we got  :            Namir Gharaibeh           |
|     this understanding.        :     a.k.a.  U50879@uicvm.uic.edu     |
|                                :   University of Illinois at Chicago  |





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:47:21 -0400
From: David Holmes <cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: work by Masahiro Chatani

On Mon, 26 Feb 1996, Sharon Gordon wrote:

> I recently came across some books in our local bookstore's origami
> section by Masahiro Chatani and others where MC refers to the

Your local bookstore carries enough origami books for them to actually
have their own section !!? :-)

David M Holmes                  cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:51:26 -0400
From: plank@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Cool polyhedron page

If you're a fan of polyhedra, check out
  http://www.inf.ethz.ch/department/TI/rm/unipoly/

It has nice renderings of all the uniform polyhedra.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Plank
plank@cs.utk.edu
http://www.cs.utk.edu/~plank





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:54:05 -0400
From: Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com
Subject: RE: Folding puzzle

>Yes, you have solved it Eric...
> Then how about blintz-folding? <snip>  you have a square that is still
>"standing" 5cm tall (albeit with much help from you)...

I have another solution....

Fold the paper vertically  into eighths. Now fold it into a square tube.
The tube has 0.5 the surface area of the original square. Stand it on end.
You have a square parallel to the table that stands the length of the paper
off the table!

It's a cheat, but it meets the conditions of the puzzle.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:28:07 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment 2

I have never met anyone folding in public, outside of meetings and
conventions.  I did, however, encounter, a restaurant "tip" left by
another folder proudly displayed by the cash register in Mary Chung's
restaurant in Cambridge many years ago.  It was a modular, probably a
Fuse design, back in the days when I had never heard of Fuse.  I was
intrigued, and Mary let me poke at it just enough to figure out how it
was done without breaking it.  The lessons I learned from it were part
of the inspiration for my stellated dodecahedron model.

So keep leaving those folded tips!

        -- jeannine mosely





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:30:07 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: work by Masahiro Chatani

   I recently came across some books in our local bookstore's origami
   section by Masahiro Chatani and others where MC refers to the
   items as Origamic Architecture.  It doesn't seem to qualify as
   actual origami (serious amounts of cutting) but it does also have
   a significant amount of folding in a number of the pieces.

   Some of the books refer to the items as pop-ups, but this term
   seems inadequate for the amount of folding and scherenschnitte
   work involved in many of them.

   So I have three questions:
   1) Does this work have any other names--perhaps in Japanese?

There is a related Japanese craft called "kirigami", which just means
paper cutting.

   2) Is there an online group devoted to this type of work?
   3) Is there an offline group devoted to this?

   The best books seemed to be:
   A Paradise of Origamic Architecture, Chatani, 4-395-27018-2
   The Pop-Up Book, Paul Jackson
   Pop-Up Greeting Cards, Chatani, 0-87040-733-3
   Best Greeting Cards Pop-Up, Keiko Nakazawa, 0-87040-964-6

   Sharon
   gordonse@iac.net





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:39:53 -0400
From: kkinney@med.unc.edu (Kevin Kinney)
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment 2

Dorigami,
        Yes, I think I'll start playing with folding in public some more.
I just realized that now that I have a "real" job, I'm wearing shirts with
pockets in them all the time.  Might as well keep some paper in them...

Ksk





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 14:09:31 -0400
From: gordonse@iac.net (Sharon Gordon)
Subject: Re: work by Masahiro Chatani

David Holmes asked about one of the local stores that I mentioned:

>
> > I recently came across some books in our local bookstore's origami
> > section by Masahiro Chatani and others where MC refers to the
>
> Your local bookstore carries enough origami books for them to actually
> have their own section !!? :-)
>

Yes, this store actually has 2 shelves full of origami books :-).
The books turn over enough to indicate lots of folders in the area,
but I have never seen anything in the Cincinnati paper about an
origami group that meets in the local area.  Anyone know if there
is one  (regular and or Chatani style)?

Sharon
gordonse@iac.net





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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 16:49:17 -0400
From: Kim Best <Kim.Best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: RE: Folding puzzle

On Sun, 25 Feb 1996, Kevin Park wrote:

>       Well, if you fold in two adjacent sides equally such that
the
> diagonal of the new square is 5cm you get a square such described if the
> square is stood on a corner.  The best thing about this puzzle is that it
> can be done quite easily with any square sheet of paper (three folds max,
> but you can do it in two and a half), just replace "5cm" with the length
> of a side of the square in question.
>       Being able to do it with paper alone is quite a bonus (!!).
>

Three folds? the best I can do is four folds:

1)  Crease one diagonal.  (Or is this considered a pre-fold?)

2) Valley fold so bottom edge lies along diagonal.

3) fold top edge of paper horizontally so that it meets the point where
the bottom right corner of the paper lies on the diagonal.

3a) undo step 2.  (Maybe this should also be considered a fold.)

4) fold right edge of paper vertically, so that it meets the point where
the top edge intersects the diagonal.

So how do you do it in two and a half?

(Optional:  Prove that the surface area is half that of the original
square, without invocing the blintz fold analogy. Sorry I couldn't help
that one!)

Kim Best
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