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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 02:35:09 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: more on handedness

Not to throw another cog into the works, but, everyone clasp their hands to-
gether in front of yourself, interlacing the fingers. Notice which thumb is on
top (and consequently which index finger is on top, etc) now, switch your hands
so the OTHER hand is on top - doesn't it feel STRANGE? I have always heard that
that was an indication as to your "handedness" (right on top, left brain)
Oh well... just a fun thing to do at boring parties (when you forget to bring
paper that is) OR you can do the Frito Effect! Move about 6 feet away from
a VCR (I think some microwave oven will work, too) and crunch a Frito (or any
other very hard crunchy thing you may happen to have on hand - hitting yourself
gently on the top of the head will work too but it isn't as satifying to the
tummy) and the numbers on the clock of the VCR or the microwave will "jiggle"
My husband says it has something to do with the pulse rate of the clock
     numebr(you science people will know what I'm talking about) It is a lot of
     fun to
get a whole room of people staring atthe nearest clock crunching on corn chips
and cookies (or hitting themselves in the head) This is akin to staring at
those &^*%%&^%*( "3D" pictures - some people will NEVER see the effect and claim
the rest of you are looney!

Try it - it's fun!

Dee





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 06:40:32 -0400
From: Maumoy@aol.com
Subject: crane patterned fabric

Two sources, both in Honolulu, of 100% cotton fabrics:

Fabric Mart, 808-488-8882, $4.50 per yard, assorted patterns and colors, open
9AM - 6PM

Kuni Dry Goods, 808-941-9102, $7.25 to $7.98 per yard, assorted patterns and
colors, They have a monthly sale when everything is 20% off.

I don't know if either would do a mail order but it's worth asking.  They
both take credit cards.

Prices as of January, 1996.

Marcia Mau
Maumoy@aol.com





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 06:45:41 -0400
From: Maumoy@aol.com
Subject: tv program

Tuesday night there was a tv program called something like What's My Hobby,
episode 108 which interviewed two paper folders:  Terry, an engineer and his
wife Karen.  Any one w/ more info on this?  I wondered if this could be Terry
Hall since I had the impression they were in CA.  Sorry about the sketchy and
missing details:  I didn't see the entire interview.

Marcia Mau
Maumoy@aol.com





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 08:24:49 -0400
From: dmssvitt@carpa.ciagri.usp.br (Dorinha M.S.S.Vitti)
Subject: left-hand

For your statistic, I am totally left-hand,eyes, foot, and so on...





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 09:09:14 -0400
From: "Londono, Juancarlos (3421)" <J.LONDONO@CGNET.COM>
Subject: Temporarly unsubscription

Hi all:

I have to take a long trip in a few days and I wonder if its possible
unsubscribe my name  temporarly of this group,  while I come back in a
month.

Juancarlos





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:56:57 -0400
From: lehner@espinc.espinc.com (Ken Lehner)
Subject: Origami Fantasy - Paper Choices?

Fellow Folders,

Having finally obtained Origami Fantasy this week, I'm
looking for help in finding paper that is as appropriate
as that used in the photographs in the book.  My kami is
certainly too dull, and probably wouldn't hold up to the
150+ steps in the Tyrannosaurus.  Foil paper isn't right
either (although I made the Unicorn last night with a
piece of silver foil paper, and was pleasantly surprised
to find the horse white and the horn silver!).

Can anyone give me some advice on what to use?

Ken "itchy fingers" Lehner

P.S.  The fact that the book is in Japanese does not seem
to be a problem; the diagrams are *really* clear.  It did
take me until about step 110 of Pegasus to realize that
the characters in parenthesis (that I'd been ignoring)
mean "repeat behind".  :-)





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:58:54 -0400
From: Bimal Desai <bd1@st-andrews.ac.UK>
Subject: More U.K. Inquiries...

Hey all you folders in the U.K.,

Where exactly do you order your books from?  I am living in Scotland for
the year, and have yet to find a suitable bookstore that can locate and
order origami books.  The book I'm having the most trouble with is
Kawahata's dino-gami book called "Fantasy Origami".  Any help would be
appreciated.  Thanks!

-Bimal

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bimal Ramesh Desai                      bd1@st-andrews.ac.uk





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:01:08 -0400
From: Michael Lindner <lindner@worldweb.net>
Subject: Model creation, memorization, business meetings, etc.

Well, I've been a long-time lurker here, and have recently been quite busy
with mundane work-related stuff, but I'm going to finally make a few comments.

I've been folding for 25 years or so, since I was a kid. Memorization has
always come easy for me and is part of what I find challenging and enjoyable
about folding. Whipping out a quick tetrahedron or Brill lidded box has
actually proved to make long busines meetings more tolerable. I've probably
got around 50 intermediate to complex models memorized and am continually
going back to books to refresh my memory. BTW, my favorite business meeting
models are Lang's 8-pointed star, Brill's box, and Kawasaki's octahedron.

While I feel talented as a folder, I am completely inept in the area of
model creation. Whatever patience led me to create this or that meager
attempt has been quashed by Lang's and Montroll's books. The reality for me
is simply that there are talented geniuses in the area of model creation, of
which I am not one and probably never will be. That's okay, as long as the
Langs, Brills, and Montrolls of the world keep putting out books. I've
always found that making models is more fun than having them, so I regularly
give my best models away.

As far as "right" ways to fold, techniques, and advice from masters, I've
always found that my own way works best and that there rarely is a single
"way" to teach new folders how to fold. Folding is a technical art,
requiring patience and practice. I find it to be one of the most relaxing
things to do in life.

I hope this is interesting to someone. I'll do a belated start story
sometime soon. Best wishes and love to all the origami folks out there who
enrich my life with this mailing list.

Michael Lindner
lindner@worldweb.net





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:32:51 -0400
From: Bill Hall <billhall@computek.net>
Subject: Re: more on handedness

BOB T. LYNCH wrote:
>
> Not to throw another cog into the works, but, everyone clasp their hands to-
> gether in front of yourself, interlacing the fingers. Notice which thumb is on
> top (and consequently which index finger is on top, etc) now, switch your
     hands
> so the OTHER hand is on top - doesn't it feel STRANGE? I have always heard
     that
> that was an indication as to your "handedness" (right on top, left brain)
> Oh well... just a fun thing to do at boring parties (when you forget to bring
> paper that is) OR you can do the Frito Effect! Move about 6 feet away from
> a VCR (I think some microwave oven will work, too) and crunch a Frito (or any
> other very hard crunchy thing you may happen to have on hand - hitting
     yourself
> gently on the top of the head will work too but it isn't as satifying to the
> tummy) and the numbers on the clock of the VCR or the microwave will "jiggle"
> My husband says it has something to do with the pulse rate of the clock
     numebr(you science people will know what I'm talking about) It is a lot
of fun to
> get a whole room of people staring atthe nearest clock crunching on corn chips
> and cookies (or hitting themselves in the head) This is akin to staring at
> those &^*%%&^%*( "3D" pictures - some people will NEVER see the effect and
     claim
> the rest of you are looney!
>
> Try it - it's fun!
>
> Dee
>
> ;-)

Works with computer monitors and TV's, too.

Hitting myself in the head makes _everything_ jiggle. Am I hitting too
hard?  :)
--
==========================================
Clarinet: Medieval instrument of torture. The only thing
worse than a clarinet is _two_ clarinets. - Ambrose Bierce.
Bill Hall               billhall@computek.net           Dallas, TX





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:12:48 -0400
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.com
Subject: Re: memory of folding

fellow folders of paper,,,,

>> > How many origamis do each of you know by heart ?
>> > That's somehow a statistic question. I know I'm curious,
>>
>> I tried many time to remember only one, so I do the same fold lot of time. I
>> can do it by heart for a time but if I don't practice, I loose it!
>
>Rote memorization is definitely NOT the way to go.  Like you point
>out, it's easy to forget models you learn this way.

maybe that's where i've been going wrong
i.e. Rote Memorization

perhaps i've been too concerned with learning enough models
so that i have a nice set to demonstrate anyTime-anyWhere
without really understanding the intrinsic geometry and spatial aspects
-- being more concerned with product than process

does it go to the intent of one's folding???
is it to impress people with one's origami prowness???
"look i can fold a crane out of a square piece of paper before your eyes"
 AND a buffalo, spider, ant, etc.

i must admit
that sometimes i find this to be a reason i try to build
a portfolio to fold X different models anyTime-anyWhere
thinking that as X gets greater in number
it is more impressive to people

then reality hits that i'll never be a Lang or Montroll
SO i become more happy just to go to one of my origami books
and fold from the diagrams with the intent

          JUST TO FOLD

          -- not concerned with memorization
          -- enjoying the physicalness of paper
          -- enjoying the folding process
          -- being in "the moment"

i guess it goes to my other creative outlets of writing, drawing and sculpture
where i know my gift and tools more intimately

maybe there should be a twelve step program for origami

HEY
   what a minute...
   look at my next posting

  /-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-///plieur de papier\\\-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\
 /=-= jack thomas weres                       jtweres@psp.ih.att.com =-=\





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:31:01 -0400
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.com
Subject: 12 Steps for Origami

welcome to PFA -- paper folders anonymous

my name is jack
and i am a paper folder

let's recite the 12 Steps

               The Twelve Steps of Origami
               ---------------------------
                                 Copyright 1996 Jack Thomas Weres

Step 1:  We admitted we were powerless over a square piece of paper
         -- that our lives had become unmanageable.

Step 2:  Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves
         could restore us to not looking at all pieces of paper
         and wondering "Hmmm, what can i make out of this?"

Step 3:  Made a decision to turn our paper over to the care of God
         as we understood Him.

Step 4:  Made a searching and fearless inventory of our origami books
         and origami paper stock.

Step 5:  Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another paper folder
         the exact right-handedness or left-handedness nature of our folding.

Step 6:  Were entirely ready to have God remove all defects
         of inexact rabbit-ear folds.

Step 7:  Humbly asked Him to remove our incorrect creases.

Step 8:  Made a list of all persons we had flamed/scorned/SPAMed
         on the origami-l mailing list, and became willing
         to make amends to them all.

Step 9:  Made direct email amends to such people wherever possible,
         except when to do so would injure them or others.

Step 10: Continued to take paper inventory and when we had
         too much paper promptly folded it.

Step 11: Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious
         contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge
         of what He wants us to fold and the diagrams to carry that out.

Step 12: Having had a spiritual awakening as the results of these Steps,
         we tried to carry the origami message to others, and to practice
         origami in all our business meetings.

  /-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-///plieur de papier\\\-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\
 /=-= jack thomas weres                       jtweres@psp.ih.att.com =-=\





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:03:04 -0400
From: Michael Lindner <lindner@worldweb.net>
Subject: Start Story

Well, I had an extra few moments I hadn't planned on, so here's my start story:

When I was 11 or 12, my next-door neighbors in Miami, Florida were a native
Japanese couple, the Haradas. Mr. H was a scientist working at the U of M.
Mrs. Harada very slowly and carefully instructed me in the folding of a
crane on her kitchen table with her paper and her very-young (7 or 8)
folding along. It was a powerful moment for me, a view into an approach to
creation and a formalism of beauty that we completely lack in our United States.

Somewhere along the line, a copy of Robert Harbin's "Secret's of Origami"
made it into my possession (does anybody else have this). It's an anthology
of traditional and great folders' works, with memorable stuff by Cerceda,
Montoya, Elias, Rohm, and Neale, with one of my favorite models of all time,
the Armchair of Jack Skillman. Has this ever been reprinted?

When I was 18, I got a bad case of viral pneumonia, which caused me to miss
the last ten weeks of my senior year of high school. Yep, I missed my
graduation and prom as well. But... I folded a lot of paper in that ten
weeks, mostly traditional stuff from the Harbin book. I was hooked. I've
taken years off at a time, but I've always come back, cleaning out the
bookstores in my area every few years, getting into a folding frenzy that
keeps me up late at night and drives my wife to distraction. My paper
collection rivals my mother's quilting supplies and that's saying something.
And I can't wait for the next issue of The Paper...

I've got a 21-month-old son, Noah, in my life now. I've done some
demonstration folding for him, but he doesn't really get it. He does,
however, appreciate the finished models, which complements my enjoyment of
making-rather-than-owning them. Two months ago he was a crumpler. A month
ago he was carefully unfolding every model back to a square (and flattening
them). Now he carries paper bugs and birds around the house with care. I
think he'll make a crane someday...

I enjoy this mailing list immensely. Thank you all for telling your stories.

Michael Lindner
lindner@worldweb.net





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:26:15 -0400
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: Re: memory of folding

At 12:14 PM 2/22/96 -0400, jack thomas weres (jtweres@psp.ih.att.com) wrote:
>then reality hits that i'll never be a Lang or Montroll
>SO i become more happy just to go to one of my origami books
>and fold from the diagrams with the intent
>
>         JUST TO FOLD
>
>         -- not concerned with memorization
>         -- enjoying the physicalness of paper
>         -- enjoying the folding process
>         -- being in "the moment"

That's right! CARPE ORIGAMIEM!

-Eric  :-P

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        /|\                             ___ /^^[___              _
       / | \      ------>              /|^+----+   |#___________//
      /__|__\     Repeat             ( -+ |____|    ______-----+/
      \  |  /      steps              ==_________--'            \
       \ | /        9 to 658            ~_|___|__
        \|/          behind...
         V                                            Eric Andersen
     Bird Base           http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric/origami





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:34:43 -0400
From: David Holmes <cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk>
Subject: Folding in a spare moment

How many of you carry around a few squares of origami paper so you can
fold if you get a spare moment?

Also, does anyone carry around prefolded bases so they can immediately
start to fold a new model if they suddenly get a creative idea?

Looking forward to the Nottingham BOS convention (and my birthday :),

David M Holmes                  cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk
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British Origami Society        Association of C & C++ Users
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/       (in development)





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:53:53 -0400
From: Gretchen Klotz <gren@agora.rdrop.com>
Subject: Re: southpaws n' all that

On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Weinstein, Michael wrote:

> The most genetically gifted musician on Earth won't
> play a good fiddle if he's born deaf.  The grand poobahs of
> Origami couldn't fold to much if they had a deathly fear of cellulose
> brought on by a heinous paper cut at the age of 3.

Actually, there are a number of deaf musicians, some who have become deaf
(Evelyn Glennie and Beethoven, of course, come to mind), others who were
born that way (percussionists mostly).  And there are plenty of origami
teachers who can tell stories about teaching blind folks to fold.  We are
limited more by our beliefs than by our (dis)abilities.  (And thusly we
limit others...)

- Gretchen

--
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:11:20 -0400
From: Gretchen Klotz <gren@agora.rdrop.com>
Subject: Re: fabric search (fwd)

On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, Roxanne Shufran wrote:

> I have some from Kasuri Fabrics in Berkley California (I don't have the
> number, but you can get it from information). The fabric is blue outlines
> on white and is made in Japan and is very expensive. Kasuri does do
> mail order.

I stumbled upon Kasuri Dyeworks during a visit to Berkeley 2 years ago.
What a wonderful store!  They specialize in indigo and other
naturally-dyed textiles, most of which are the Japanese traditional 14.5"
wide.  (And they even carry the indigo chiyogami!) One of the things I
love most about paper is the texture, and I feel the same way about fabric
but am very sensitive to sizing.  This store was a treat to visit because
their fabrics do not contain the high amounts of commercial sizing since
they are hand-made using traditional methods.  When I was there, I believe
they had some items dyed by the woman who is the Japanese "living national
treasure" for indigo dyeing (the equivalent of Yoshizawa for origami).

Kasuri offers textiles, crafts and dye supplies (including mulberry
paper), mostly from Japan, and will do special orders.  They also have a
video catalog of their representative fabrics.

Contact them at:

        Kasuri Dyeworks
        1959 Shattuck Avenue
        Berkeley, CA  94704
        (510) 841-4509
        Tues-Sat 11-6, closed Sun-Mon

- Gretchen, dreaming of indigo

--
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:20:54 -0400
From: contract@pipeline.com (Contractors Exchange)
Subject: Re: more on handedness

On Feb 22, 1996 02:35:09, '"BOB T. LYNCH"  <blynch@du.edu>' wrote:

>
>Not to throw another cog into the works, but, everyone clasp their hands
to-
>gether in front of yourself, interlacing the fingers. Notice which thumb
is on
>top (and consequently which index finger is on top, etc) now, switch your

>hands
>so the OTHER hand is on top - doesn't it feel STRANGE? I have always heard

>that was an indication as to your "handedness" (right on top, left brain)

I am a righty who feels more comfortable with my left thumb on top (and I
also do some things lefty-style). Perhaps this explains why I can create
origami models? Marc





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:46:55 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: oh no! Mathmaticians again....

Sorry folks! I made a mistake! I was forwarding that message to my husband.
We find these math messages entertaining and amusing....especially when
they take off to the degree of the SPONGE messages.

Do appreciate them though,

I AM EMBARASSED,

pat slider.





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 15:14:11 -0400
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: origami + science, a link?

At 22:01 17/02/96 -0400, you wrote:

>
>Is this coincidence, or does origami attract scientists and likewise,
>science attract origamists?. Or is it purely due to the fact that a
>living cannot be made by folding paper alone...shame.
>
>Paul.

>(yes I do include mathematics as a science!)

About six years ago I did a pilot survey of BOS members attending a
convention with additional forms from the Nederlands.  The results are
suggestive but need a full scale survey across many countries to see if the
main findings hold.

I was interested in the general question what sort of people were interested
in paper folding, what other interests did they have and did these suggest
an underlying structure. The main results were as follows:-

1. The occupations involved were mainly those calling for Mental actvity,
Technicians, Scientists, and so on, or working with people but still calling
for mental application, ie, teachers, secretaries, clerical workers and so on.

2. 30% were over 55 years of age.

3. Respondents had been interested in origami for an average of 16 years.
54% for over 10 years.

4.The average ratings for creators, in top down order was :_

Brill, Hulme, Elias, Yoshizawa, Fumi, Fujimoto, Shen, Kenneway, Takahama,
Rohm, Jackson, Montroll
No differences were found in the top ratings for the UK respondents  versus
others.

(Obviously this result was some time ago and probably reflects European
preferences or knowledge at that time.)_

5. The type of folding mainly preferred was;- dry, 3D, single piece and
realistic.
Men scored higher on 3D and Realistic styles than women, who had higher
average scores for Flat origami and Abstract forms.

6. People were asked their degree of interest in a large number of hobbies
or activities. Two factors or underlying structures were found which
accounted for most of the variation as follows:-

a, Scientific or problem solving, (includes cognitive activity, interest in
maths and maths puzzles etc.)
b. Humanities or arts, about feelings and people as well as the arts and design.

men scored higher on the science dimension than women but lower than women
on the humanities/arts factor.

7. I included questions to assess scores on a four psychological factors,
empathy, structure, imagination and assertiveness, and tried to relate these
to origami differences.

In general respondents were strongest on Empathy and Imagination.
Those with high Empathy scores prefered realistic forms of Paper Folding and
also scored highly on the humantiesart dimension.
Those scoring high on Structure had a high score on the Science dimension.
Where there was high Structure and Imagination then Abstract Origami was
preferred.
High on Imagination was equated with a high score on the Humanities dimension.

I have wondered whether there would be any support for attempting a survey
of members of the Origami- L. The completed questions could be sent direct
to me so as not to clog up the works. But I doubt if there is really
sufficient interest.

I am very thankful that it is difficult to make money from origami. This
means we do it because we want to and because the art attracts us rather
than a way of making money. If it was a business matter then sharing would
go out of the window, long may origami be worth nothing and yet be an art of
immense richness.

John.

John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:26:38 -0400
From: kkinney@med.unc.edu (Kevin Kinney)
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment

>
> How many of you carry around a few squares of origami paper so you can
> fold if you get a spare moment?

I do, I keep 3" (7.5cm) paper in my wallet, in a cellophane wrapper.  It
gets a little bent, but suffices for the simple models I have in Memory
(crane, flapping bird, 3 frogs, angelfish, butterfly, dragon, lily,
Montroll's horse, seashell, pine cone, possibly a few others that I've
forgotten).  I used to leave them with (not as) tips in restaurants (the
waiters/esses always expressed dismay at having to unfold the dollar bills,
and I hated forcing the choice between art and income on them).  Haven't
done it lately, though; I'll have to revive the habit.

> Also, does anyone carry around prefolded bases so they can immediately
> start to fold a new model if they suddenly get a creative idea?

Haven't tried this, but the base hasn't been the problem for the most part
(becoming more of one these days).  During the tipping phase, after a
while, for my favorite servers, I'd "cheat" and have one pre-folded, one
that I had not memorized.

Peripherally, regarding folding in front of people to impress; I find tis
problematic, as folding anything that I think is impressive takes longer
than most peoples' attention spans (e.g. a Horse, people always love it,
but they don't usually want to watch one being folded).  I don't think I'm
a particularly slow folder, do I just have impatient friends?
        (I compare this to a related subject, balloon twisting, where the
more accomplished practitioners can create the most astounding thinks
quickly enough to satisfy even small children.)

Kevin Kinney
kkinney@med.unc.edu





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:29:44 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Top 10 origami books?

After spending some time searching the archives for book reviews, I have
come to the conclusion that we really need a list of recommended books,
so...

If everyone wants to send me a list of their favorite books, I would be
happy to tally the votes and post the results :->.  Then all of us serious
book buyers can pull out our credit cards.

I can try to include useful reviews with the winning books too, if you want
to include them with your book lists.

pat slider.
slider@yosemite.net





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:38:13 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: More on Top 10 origami books.

Come to think of it, perhaps people should catagorize their lists by
difficulty....

i.e. favorite beginning, intermediate, advanced books.

Hoping to be snowed with responses,

pat slider.
slider@yosemite.net





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:49:06 -0400
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: Proper Folding Technique

     Hmm...mid-air, on a table, in a business meeting, right-handed,
     left-handed, with your eyes closed, standard paper, foil paper, found
     paper, left brain, right brain...it all gets so tangled!  I see the
     beginnings of a "Dr. Seuss-esque" thing here.

     Seems to me, the best way to fold is while eating those Fritos Dee
     mentioned a few postings ago!

     Taking it one crease at a time...

     Jennifer (JAndre@cfipro.com)





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 22:43:20 -0400
From: jmarcoli@stratacom.com (John Marcolina)
Subject: Re: Origami Fantasy - Paper Choices?

Ken Lehner writes:

Fellow Folders,

Having finally obtained Origami Fantasy this week, I'm
looking for help in finding paper that is as appropriate
(snip snip)

Can anyone give me some advice on what to use?
--------------------------------------------------------------------
I've been folding obsessively from this book since I reveived it, my
experience has been:

A good deal of the models can be wet-folded from Wyndstone Marble paper with
*great* results (Wyndstone Marble is available in some art stores, in many
cool colors). I've been starting with about a 13" square for some of the more
complex models - I folded a killer stegosaurus using a sheet this size. Some
of the simpler models I folded from 10" squares of Marble. One of the nice
things about using Marble is that it is colored on both sides so it works
great for the triceratops which winds up 2-tone using kami.

Some of the models get too thick for Marble, like the Tuo.... (the guy with
all the pointy spikes on his back). I folded him from 10" foil, but I don't
generally like the foil look; I'd like to try him again with unryu foil.

Speaking of unryu foil, I made some by backcoating unryu onto the paper side
of origami foil and got very good results; the foil is much thinner than
kitchen foil and more to my liking. I used this paper to fold the dinosaur
(forgot his name) with all the spikes going around his head.

I also folded the T-Rex using foil, but I'm going to try again using a large
sheet of marble.

Love those teeth!

John Marcolina
jmarcolina@strata.com





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 22:47:07 -0400
From: Alex Bateman <agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: New improved archive search

Hello all,
          I have now improved my keyword search of the Origami-l
archives to allow a search with two keywords linked with and, or and
not. The search now includes archivess up to 15 Feb 1996. Try it out at

http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/origami.html

- Alex Bateman
- MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
- agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
- Phone: (01223) 402479
- http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/origami.html





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 22:48:48 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: gacky handedness

> Gacky??????? What a wonderful word!  Can you enlighten us to origins

Probably related to the English phrase "cacky", derived no doubt from caca
or poo. Oddly enough, we sometimes rudely refer to left-handers as
"cack-handed", implying they cannot perform as well as right-handers.

How wonderful to link two threads so meaningfully ;)

cheers,

Nick Robinson
who can fold a flapper behind his back!

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 22:50:28 -0400
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Re: origami + science, a link?

>
>I am very thankful that it is difficult to make money from origami. This
>means we do it because we want to and because the art attracts us rather
>than a way of making money. If it was a business matter then sharing would
>go out of the window, long may origami be worth nothing and yet be an art of
>immense richness.
>

Hear, hear!

Carol Hall





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 23:20:55 -0400
From: marckrsh@pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment

On Feb 22, 1996 13:34:43, 'David Holmes <cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk>'
wrote:

>How many of you carry around a few squares of origami paper so you can
>fold if you get a spare moment?
>

I usualy keep a few sqares in my bag, and I often bring paper when I know I
am going to be someplace where I will have to wait (traffic lights, train
stops, shopping lines, ect.). I rarely just set aside time in the day just
for folding.

>Also, does anyone carry around prefolded bases so they can immediately
>start to fold a new model if they suddenly get a creative idea?
>
I often keep my paper folded in a base for compactness's sake. I will often
know what I am going to fold, so I will carry a base with me a few steps
into the model. For many of my models, this is just the fish base.

Marc





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 23:32:08 -0400
From: pwmurray@key-net.net (Pat Murray)
Subject: Re: gacky handedness

At 10:50 PM 2/22/96 -0400, you wrote:
>> Gacky??????? What a wonderful word!  Can you enlighten us to origins
>
>Probably related to the English phrase "cacky", derived no doubt from caca
>or poo. Oddly enough, we sometimes rudely refer to left-handers as
>"cack-handed", implying they cannot perform as well as right-handers.
>
>How wonderful to link two threads so meaningfully ;)
>
>cheers,
>
>Nick Robinson
>who can fold a flapper behind his back!
>
>nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
>http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html
>

Just a note from a "cack-handed" lurker. I eat and write left-handed. All
else I do right-handed or with both hands. I bowl with both, pitch softball
with both, use a hammer and saw with both (which really upsets my
sometimes-carpenter husband), I even play golf with both (quit playing when
it got too easy). Eating and writing were the only two things no one could
force me to do right-handed when I was growing up. I haven't been reading
the list mail lately (too much for me to keep up with right now; I'll read
it later), but the terminology used here caught my eye.

If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, and the
left side controls the right side of the body, then only left-handers are in
their right mind! Only 1 in 10 people is left-handed. That makes us unique!





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 00:39:09 -0400
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (S.Y. Chen)
Subject: Re: Folding in a spare moment

>On Feb 22, 1996 13:34:43, 'David Holmes <cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk>'
>wrote:
>
>
>>How many of you carry around a few squares of origami paper so you can
>>fold if you get a spare moment?
>>
>

I don't carry square papers. I usually keep any copies of recipts,
transaction slip, note paper,... in my pockets. Most of them are
rectangular. So I can fiddle with them in any spare moment (watch out
important receipts!). Well ocassionally I make rough square by tearing the
slip in hand.

What do I fold? Either making my own design or practicing my old design or
improving my old design. I seldom fold other's design models. (yep! not
many known-by-heart models)

Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. SY)
E-Mail: chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov
Origami Page - http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 01:55:49 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re:  Folding in a spare moment

Well - I am rather embarrased to admit it but I carry a LOT of paper with me.
I didn't realize how much until I took an inventory after David asked. I have
in a pocket of my purse, a package of double sided paper, a package of foil
paper, and envelope with about 40 3 inch squares of kami and wrapping paper, a
100 pack of 3 inch gold and a 100 pack of 3 inch silver, a package of plain
white (4 inch), a package of "Diamond" paper (3inch), and a small book.... I
don't have any pre-folded bases though. Actually, that is a very interesting
idea, which I may decide to use in the future - smaller children are usually
very impatient and don't like to wait long periods to get their bird (or what-
ever!)

No wonder my purse weighs a ton!

Dee





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 02:30:10 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re:  gacky handedness

Now I thought "gacky" came from people with small children as in "gah" (said
with a "bad face") meaning sort of "no" and "acky" meaning yucky, nasty, dirty.

I always thought "cack-handed" meant you did something on the fly that worked.
For example your car breaks down and you fix it with some chewing gum and
baling wire - cack-handed... I'm not British though...

Dee





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 02:38:02 -0400
From: osele@world-net.sct.fr (Osele Vincent)
Subject: Re: 3D imagination and origami

>
>Hmmm...  Does the ability to do origami correlate with a good 3-dimensional
>imagination?

I think it's not linked. But a good 3D imagination could be a help for origami.
It's like a tool, if you don't have it, you try by an other way...
My wife has a poor spacial understanding, but do nice orgami.

For general consideration, even if the final folding is in 2D, there are
automatically 3D folds: a simple crease is in 3D even if you roll the paper!
A valley or montain fold use 3D ability.

Vincent...





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 02:39:31 -0400
From: osele@world-net.sct.fr (Osele Vincent)
Subject: Re:aggressive marketing

>Display cranes......
>Mark.  what do you mean by aggressive marketing of origami.Do you mean
>selling of origami products such as jewelry or ornaments, or selling of
>books, or selling of time teaching Origami......Dorigami
>
>

I'm not sure that Mark talk about aggressive marketink. Peharps it's me, or
I have missed somethink.
About aggressive marketing, I want to say that this commercial group sell
origami such potatoes. Why not, but
- they use (or they used) the structure, the books, the convention... of our
group for their own job!!! (that why we are not in good relationship)
- we cannot talk origami with them, they want only one thing is to sell you
something.

Vincent...





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 02:41:00 -0400
From: osele@world-net.sct.fr (Osele Vincent)
Subject: Re: memory of folding

>
>Rote memorization is definitely NOT the way to go.  Like you point
>out, it's easy to forget models you learn this way.
>
>After you've folded enough different models, you'll start to memorize
>them without even realizing it.  To tell the truth, I don't think I
>have the models actually memorized; it's just that I'm able to figure
>out the folding process anew each time I do it!
>

I think you're right. I have the same understanding: for the only mode I can
do, It's like if I re-created each time: I know the process to do it.
This method is limited to simple model!

>In my own experience, after I've folded the first 4 or 5 steps of
>Montroll's Apatasaurus, I can't help but finish it.  Each step makes
>perfect sense; I never think to myself "ok, now what?"  At each step,
>then next fold is obvious to me.  In fact, I can't believe that I ever
>had trouble with this model, which of course, I did.
>
>In most models, I do get to points in the folding sequence where the
>next step is not obvious; however, once I memorize those few stopping
>points, I'm usually able to memorize the whole thing.
>
>I still come across models which completely defeat my internal logic,
>of course.  I just don't have the appropriate sequences in my mind,
>yet.
>
>I think that after enough models, you start to build and memorize
>generalized folding sequences in your head.  I suppose once I build
>enough of these sequences up myself, I'll be able to assemble them in
>new orders and create my own models.  :)
>

That why it take long time to start to create!

But there are different memory than us (look at Mark mail)...





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 03:05:39 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: models by heart

Yes, as DORIGAMI said in her message (actually I am sometimes called
LORIGAMI - from Laurie), I also seem to have no problems remembering
models. I either fold them once or see them folded, or read the diagrams in
a book and they are committed to memory.

My memory has always been good however, and I have a lot of fun with it. I
like meeting new people at parties or on courses or wherever, because I
have no problems remembering everyones name, but they don't remember mine.
I spend the rest of the evening/day/session addressing people by their
name. It is a little game I play with myself! - cruel I know, but fun.

As far as folds go. I often get asked how many I know. I must confess that
I have no idea at all. I know that I don't usually forget something I once
know, so I suspect that it is a large number. I also tend to invent things
on the fly so when I am making something, I will often alter something and
end up with something else, so the total folds gets increased constantly.

I also have many books (a hundred or more) but rarely refer to them once I
have read them once.

Memory is a peculiar thing though, I play chess occasionally with a friend,
we both play blindfold (that's with no actual board or pieces) so this
'virtual' game of chess just goes on in your head. It is no trouble, I have
known other chess players who do the same. Their memories were not
startling in any other respect. I think that it is partly familiarity with
your subject, and partly the ability to visualise something. This is an
ability that I have always been good at. I was always accused of
'daydreaming' at school, where in reality, I was elsewhere, having some
adventure or other.

I suspect that if you make a real concious effort to remember origami, you
are losing already! - you must practice visualising your folds, then they
will stick in your mind. The best place to try, is in bed, just before you
are fully awake, when you are in that very relaxed state, you should be
able to visualise very easily. I do a lot of creative folding (virtual
folding that is) while half asleep. It is probably similar to a hypnotised
state.

Yes, visualisation is the key..... remember the ancient greek saying...

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand

Laurie Bisman
lbisman@sirranet.co.nz





Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 07:25:18 -0400
From: Brian@goodallb.demon.co.uk (Brian J. Goodall)
Subject: Re: More on Top 10 origami books.

Please can the ISBN number be included in all lists of books.

--
Brian J. Goodall             * Experience is what you get when *
Sutton Coldfield             * you're too old to use it!       *
West Midlands                * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *





Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:26:06 -0400
From: dzimm@nando.net (David Zimmerman)
Subject: Re: more on handedness

"> Contractors Exchange wrote ..."
>
> On Feb 22, 1996 02:35:09, '"BOB T. LYNCH"  <blynch@du.edu>' wrote:
>
>
> >
> >Not to throw another cog into the works, but, everyone clasp their hands
> to-
> >gether in front of yourself, interlacing the fingers. Notice which thumb
> is on
> >top (and consequently which index finger is on top, etc) now, switch your
>
> I am a righty who feels more comfortable with my left thumb on top (and I
> also do some things lefty-style). Perhaps this explains why I can create
> origami models? Marc
>
In my investigations, alomost all righties put their left thumb on top
and lefties their right thumb. I've noticed the thimg thing years ago.

--
David P Zimmerman             dzimm@nando.net
916 Riderwood Ct               919 557 7692
WillowSpring NC 27592           D-17293

"God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dice where they cannot be
 seen." - S. Hawking





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:57:28 -0400
From: kkinney@med.unc.edu (Kevin Kinney)
Subject: Re: Proper Folding Technique(seuss)

>
>      Hmm...mid-air, on a table, in a business meeting, right-handed,
>      left-handed, with your eyes closed, standard paper, foil paper, found
>      paper, left brain, right brain...it all gets so tangled!  I see the
>      beginnings of a "Dr. Seuss-esque" thing here.

Do you fold it in mid-air?
        Can you fold a polar bear?
Do you fold them in a meeting?
        When you find you should be eating?
Do you use your right- or left-brain
        Do R. Lang's insects cause a migraine?

Hmmm...

Kevin (who wanted to do his thesis defense  in Seuss rhyme, but couldn't
find the time)

kkinney@med.unc.edu





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:06:26 -0400
From: kkinney@med.unc.edu (Kevin Kinney)
Subject: Re:  Folding in a spare moment

>
> No wonder my purse weighs a ton!
>
> Dee
>
And one of the best resons I've heard!

Kevin
(who wishes he had more pockets)





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:14:49 -0400
From: Troy Tate <supertroy@wc2.tdh.state.tx.us>
Subject: Re: gacky handedness

Or this term -- "gacky" could possibly be found in the root word of
GACK which is a product from Nickelodeon studios.  This is a pretty
slimey substance that kids find fascinating and adults find
disgusting.  Look for it at your local toy store!!!!

Troy

> Date:          Thu, 22 Feb 1996 22:48:52 -0400
> Reply-to:      origami-l@nstn.ca
> From:          Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
> To:            Multiple recipients of list <origami-l@nstn.ca>
> Subject:       gacky handedness

> > Gacky??????? What a wonderful word!  Can you enlighten us to origins
>
> Probably related to the English phrase "cacky", derived no doubt from caca
> or poo. Oddly enough, we sometimes rudely refer to left-handers as
> "cack-handed", implying they cannot perform as well as right-handers.
>
> How wonderful to link two threads so meaningfully ;)
>
> cheers,
>
> Nick Robinson
> who can fold a flapper behind his back!
>
> nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
> http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Troy Tate, CNE
Cutler/Williams, Inc.
Texas Department of Health
512-458-7355 x3125
ttate@wc2.tdh.state.tx.us
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Avoiding those who are "technically
competent but have a charisma bypass".





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:31:56 -0400
From: "Andrew P. Anselmo" <anselmo@ERXSG.rl.plh.af.mil>
Subject: Folding in spare moments/carrying paper; origami and money

I carry 3" paper with me ALL the time.  I cut (gasp!) a Tyvek
envelope up and tape it up so it forms a sturdy container for
a pack of paper.  Cellophane gets chewed up too easily.

To answer another thread-  I'm glad that it is hard to make money
from origami.  It does make us more willing to share, and at least
we know that others who are take it up for a hobby are not in it
for the cash!  Even Robert Lang still has his day job (strangely
enough, Robert visited my laboratory here on some totally
unrelated technical business.  I never made the connection until
*after* he left; just think,  a member of the origami elite could
could show up on your doorstep at ANY TIME!  Keep a sharp lookout;
check for calloused fingers, a hidden bulge of 3" paper in a shirt
pocket, figiting hands, paper cuts...)

A.

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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:41:48 -0400
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Subject: RE: models by heart

At 03:07 AM 2/23/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>My memory has always been good however, and I have a lot of fun with it. I
>like meeting new people at parties or on courses or wherever, because I
>have no problems remembering everyones name, but they don't remember mine.
>I spend the rest of the evening/day/session addressing people by their
>name. It is a little game I play with myself! - cruel I know, but fun.
>
- snip - snip - snip -

I really admire Laurie's stunning memory. I will vote her as the most
treasurable live museum.

|-------------------------------------------------------\
|  _  Sy Chen <chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov>    |\
| |_| Folding Page http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm --\





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:58:46 -0400
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Subject: Re: Archive search in Alex Bateman's Origami Page

Alex enhanced his archive search feature in
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/origami.html by two keywords.
How about three or more? Am I asking to much?

Well I am still waiting for Maarten van Gelder's improvement. Web surfing is
still expensive though?

|-------------------------------------------------------\
|  _  Sy Chen <chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov>    |\
| |_| Folding Page http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm --\





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:35:55 -0400
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Re: seuss

>Do you fold it in mid-air?
>       Can you fold a polar bear?
>Do you fold them in a meeting?
>       When you find you should be eating?
>Do you use your right- or left-brain
>       Do R. Lang's insects cause a migraine?

Okay, Kevin. You realize what you have started here?  It has been a long
time since Seuss sang through my mind without ceasing....

There have often been progressive stories written, passed from one writer to
the next to the next.  How is this for a challenge?  Everyone contribute 6-8
Seuss-esque lines -- who knows what masterpiece we will come up with?

Carol (who is in the middle of writing a philosophy paper so will contribute
her lines later) Hall
chall@scsn.net





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 13:03:32 -0400
From: "Richard Satin <libra@execpc.com>" <libra@execpc.com>

>Before Usubscribing, I suggest you all try to reset it as a DIGEST!!! You
>can do this by:
>        Writting to listserver@nstn.ca
>       and simply writting in the message body, MAIL mode reset to >DIGEST
It really works!!!! If your only problem was having 40+ >messages a day to
deal with, as was mine, this puts them all into one >long "letter".

The exact command for the subject body is:
        set origami-l mail digest

It's a big help!  ;>

Best wishes,
Richard Satin
libra@execpc.com





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 13:37:07 -0400
From: Ninety Six Elementary <frick@emeraldis.com>
Subject: Re: handedness...

 In reply to the question below.
>
 A question for those who do >origami videos and shows, and to experienced
teachers - has handedness >ever been a problem or a consideration in how you
showed a technique?
>
> I have had a few people who are left handed have great difficulty trying
to do something that is taught right handed, especially macrame.  Some kids
who are left handed will turn origami models all around and try several
different positions before they settle on the way that suits them the best.
I'm left handed and I notice that sometimes I fold things the opposite way
of others.  In general it's not a big hurdle.  I think I'm somewhat
ambidextrous too.
Marsha DuPre





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:35:49 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: origami books.

>Please can the ISBN number be included in all lists of books.

Oh my. I believe I can look them up at the library of congress site.

I need more Book lists from people! Thanks to everyone that has responded
so far. I am enjoying this.

I will collect everything I receive over the weekend and mail the result on
Monday. Perhaps if the total number of responses is low (I have seven so
far), I shall search the archives for book reviews and recommendations and
include/count those. Or would that be cheating? Perhaps this will turn out
to be more a collection of reviews than a top 10.

pat slider.





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:05:31 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: memory of folding

I find diagramming a fold the best way to learn it, especially if you
thrash over a few moves to work out the best/most elegant sequence.
Otherwise, simply make it all the time! I can produce about 30 or so
from my head, but over 1000 with diagrams ;)

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:31:36 -0400
From: Gretchen Klotz <gren@agora.rdrop.com>
Subject: Re: gacky handedness

I missed the original of the quote below, which Nick brought to us with
such vivid imagery:

> Gacky??????? What a wonderful word!  Can you enlighten us to origins

Being one of the people (or perhaps *the* person?) who used this word in a
recent post, I'll admit to using "gacky" occasionally to mean "gross,
awkward, unpleasant, tacky (both sticky/kitschy), etc."

"Gack" makes a wonderful expletive by itself. ;^)

And I do have some Gack(tm), but it only occurred to me recently that
that's where I may have gotten the word from.  Those who have handled the
stuff will know *exacly* what "gacky" means...

- Gretchen, who also says "ooky" frequently, as in: "Get your ooky fingers
off my origami paper!"

(had to work origami in there somewhere... I have been as off track in my
posts as I am in my life lately!)

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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:05:28 -0400
From: "SCOTT BEDRICK, O:BEDRIS, DDA.ID:PFIZER.BEDRIS, P:PFIZER, A:, C:"
      <BEDRIS@pfizer.com>
Subject: Re[2]: Dead Folds

>> I've found that if it's at least a halfway decent fold of a
>> Lang insect, a cat will love it.  Give it a whirl, and the cat
>takes > over.

>I use old cuckoo clocks to plug the holes in the plaster in our bathroom...

>Anyone else got any exciting tips for dead origami?

>Nick Robinson

When I was living in NYC, I loved to make something small out of foil, leave
it on a subway seat and watch peoples reactions.  Some would avoid the seat,
some would pick it up and admire it, some would sweep it onto the floor and
sit down and some would just sit and crush it.

Scott Bedrick
bedris@pfizer.com





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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:50:28 -0400
From: Namir Gharaibeh <U50879@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Outta print books

Hi.  Quick question.  How does one find out of print books for
purchase?  Case in point: Origami Omnibus. (aside from an expensive
reprint service).  Is this a bad book (not from what I've seen), or
why did it go out of print.
                                             Frustrated in Chicago...

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