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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:31:28 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: Translating Japanese

For those of you studying Japanese and who have internet access, try the
following sub-page of the Human Languages site (an amazing web resource):

http://www.willamette.edu/wdbin/searchdb.pl?stype=DIV2&search=Japanese

It includes a link to an internet service that will translate English to
Japanese, or Japanese to English ($30/month) immediately via email .... and
you can find some information about translation software for PCs.

Be sure to see the link:

http://www.realtime.net/~adamrice/h1/index.html

where you can subscribe to a mailing list for Japanese translation. And
also there is an extensive list of links for "Japanese Internet
Resources"....I wonder if there are some origami to be found following some
of these!

By the way, I occasionally use one of the online Japanese dictionaries for
the occasional origami vocabulary. Here is one that you can type in
japanese in romanji (Enlish) characters:

http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e

Seems to be down right now though.

(I took two years of Japanese in college, but I don't remember ANY of it :-<!)

pat slider.





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:55:25 -0400
From: bcrepy@club-internet.fr (Beatrice Crepy)
Subject: Hello (late)

I should have presented myself before my firt message.

My name is Beatrice. I am 35 years old, I am French and I live in Paris.
I work in a small company dealing with European Public Affairs.

I am left-handed.But I am not sure my contribution to your statistics is
valid as I am completely "novice" beginner-in Origami.

As I told Matthieu, I am looking for two things (excuse me if the question
has already been raised several times) :
bookshop retailers specialised in origami in Paris (France)
web sites regarding origami to learn how to fold

Thks for any help
Beatrice Crepy





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:12:28 -0400
From: Kathryn Burlingham <psu07050@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: Re: handed-ness

On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Pat Slider wrote:

[snip]
> By the way, I don't really believe it matters which side of your brain does
> what....as long as you have both hemispheres and their connected, everyone
> has the same opportunities to be creative/analytical, whatever!
> GENERALIZATIONS BASED ON BIOLOGY ARE DANGEROUS AND FAULTY....
[snip]

> oh well, I have been babbling,

Far from babbling, you have been the voice of reason. Thank you!

--Kathryn





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:15:41 -0400
From: "Tomlinson, Kristine" <ktomlinson@CCSMTPGW.TRINZIC.COM>
Subject: Looking for Massachusetts folders & more on crane clothing

>>This is a resend as I don't think the first one went through. KT

    Hi,

    I am a new OrigamiUSA member living in East/Central Massachusetts and am
    looking for local origami groups. The Haverhill OUSA group does not have a
    listing in The Paper. If anyone has any contact information on this or other
    Mass. groups, please feel free to forward to my e-mail.

    Thank-you in advance,

    Kristine Tomlinson
    ktomlinson@trinzic.com

    BTW, the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston that Dan Cohen mentioned in response to
Hanna listed a silk kimono with folded cranes on it, as well as, crane earrings
-- at least the last Christmas catalog did. Not exactly a bolt of cloth, but
enough for a project :-)  KT





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:36:01 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: More....Japanese book translations?

Just remembered, a while back I came across the site:

http://www.panap.com/

belonging to the bookstore/publisher Pan Asian Publications in Union City,
CA. They specifically say that they can get ANY book and list Japan as one
of the countries they import from. (They are also publishers of bilingual
children's books.) They describe themselves as follows:

                                ********************

Pan Asian Publications is a full service Asian materials distributor.
Established since 1980, Pan Asian  Publications has been serving the needs
of libraries, schools, retailers and government institutions by supplying
high quality Asian books, cassettes, audio CD's and computer CD-ROM's
together with  comprehensive services in a neat package intended to make
the job of acquiring new materials less  time-consuming and hassle-free.

 We pride ourselves in maintaining a vast selection of titles. If it's out
there, we can get it! In order to serve our customers' exhaustive needs, we
consistently update our inventory with new titles. While this  practice
leads us into an administrative nightmare, we gain satisfaction from
providing our customers with current materials rather than out-dated
"shelf-fodder". To place further emphasis on this theme, we also maintain
customers' purchase histories so that you won't accidentally buy the same
book twice.

                         *****************************

Plus they offer the following curious service:

Free transliterations for non-Roman scripts - Transliteration is the
translation of non-roman scripts into roman scripts as they relate to
pronounciation rather than meaning. Transliteration is generally performed
on the author, title and imprint of each title.

                        *******************************

I emailed them and asked if they carried origami books, but I haven't
gotten ANY response yet. Not a good sign I guess....but maybe the sales
person is on vacation.  Perhaps they don't like dealing with individual
buyers -- just libraries and wholesalers.

pat slider.





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:42:49 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: handed-ness

>On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Pat Slider wrote:
>
>> what....as long as you have both hemispheres and their connected, everyone
>

Just saw that I just did one of those funny leftie verbal errors :->.
Replace "they're" for "their" please.  Truly didn't mean to provide an
example.

pat slider.





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:20:51 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Origami brooches.

Mark lives at;

1137 Main Street, Allentown, PA 18104

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:04:49 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Creativity and Edwin Corrie

cwalker@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us writes:

> To relieve the intense pressure I now feel ;-) I'll tell you that as close
> as I've come to inventing an origami model

Let me cheer you up - Edwin was a folder for about 8 years before he
suddenly discovered his creative touch. Worth the wait, I'm sure you'll
agree!

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:28:14 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: handedness...

casida@ere.umontreal.ca writes:
> As to the comment about lefties (should I comment on it?), I suppose many
> people believe that left handedness correlates with creativity.

I have this theory that we all fold certain favourite moves favouring a
certain hand (mostly unknowingly) and if we had to fold the other way round
(as it were) we would struggle. Any thoughts?

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:32:02 -0400
From: "Weinstein, Michael" <michaelw@bdg10.niddk.nih.gov>
Subject: Re: southpaws n' all that

Its generally affirmed by the members of the human race, Western
Hemisphere and some points East, that Lefties are (generally
speaking) more creative than their less fortunate right-handed
brethren.  To my knowledge, the actual scientific evidence
supporting this is zip (actually, it almost has to be.  How do
you quantitate a thing like creativity?).  Nevertheless, even if
it is true, any rule you apply to the human race is bound to have
enough exceptions to render it nearly useless.  Folks are
complicated beasties, especially because they're a mixture of the
genetic stuf they inherited from their honored ancestors and the
environment they grew up in, also a byproduct of the aforementioned
ancestors.  The most genetically gifted musician on Earth won't
play a good fiddle if he's born deaf.  The grand poobahs of
Origami couldn't fold to much if they had a deathly fear of cellulose
brought on by a heinous paper cut at the age of 3.

The structure that connects the hemispheres of the brain and
facilitates contact between them is called the corpus callosum.
Whether it is the house of our individual muses I don't know,
although I do know that areas of it are enlarged in people who
have played music for a long time relative to those who haven't.
There is an area of the brain that is enlarged in homosexual men,
but it is in the anterior hypothalamus, not the corpus callosum.
So Marc, I guess you're one and one.  If anyone is horribly
interested in this paticular subject there is a review by Simon LeVay,
who originally found the male homosexual dichotomy in brain
structure, and Dean Hamer, who's group may have found a gene
that predisposes men to homosexuality.  The review can be found
in the May 1994 issue of Scientific American.

Sorry for the largely non-origami content, but I didn't start this
train, so its not my fault.

Michael "I'm a gene-jock, not a neuroanatomist, dammit!" Weinstein
MichaelW@bdg10.NIDDK.NIH.gov





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:08:33 -0400
From: "MARGARET M. BARBER" <mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
Subject: RE: Crane Print Cloth?

It is the Boston Museum of Fine Art.  They have bath robes, ties and
scarves.  You can't buy the fabric off the bolt, though.
--Peg Barber
mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu

On Mon, 19 Feb 1996 ACPQUINN@myriad.middlebury.edu wrote:

> Try the Museum of Fine Art in Boston (or is it NYC? i don't remember) or their
> catalog ... I got a nice paper-crane printed tie from there; they also sell
> silk scarves and maybe vests.  A bit expensive but depending on what you're
> looking for, a good buy.
> -Alasdair





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:40:15 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: folding in the air... another reason

> If you want a real challenge, try folding in the air with only one hand!

Micheal Shall led a one-handed flapper session at a BOS convention, as well
as a fold with your feet. Both a lot of fun - try it out....

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:43:45 -0400
From: jmarcoli@stratacom.com (John Marcolina)
Subject: Re: handedness...

Nick Robinson writes:

I have this theory that we all fold certain favourite moves favouring a
certain hand (mostly unknowingly) and if we had to fold the other way round
(as it were) we would struggle. Any thoughts?
------------------------------------------------------------------
Interesting idea. I think this is true to a certain extent (for me anyway).
When doing sinks, for example, I open the model up with my right hand and
invert the point with my left. Doing it the other way would be like trying to
bat right-handed (I'm a lefty :).

However, some moves that require symmetrical creasing I do symmetrically.
Example: Petal fold. I lift the point, and form the creases for the right
side with my right hand, and form the creases for the left side with my left
hand. I'm a lefty, and tend to be ambidextrous anyway. Do others find they do
the same?

John Marcolina
jmarcolina@strata.com





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:49:00 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: RE: Crane Print Cloth?

>It is the Boston Museum of Fine Art.  They have bath robes, ties and
>scarves.  You can't buy the fabric off the bolt, though.
>--Peg Barber
Perhaps someone who has one of these items can look for a company name on a
tag? Then someone could contact the company? Perhaps someone at the Boston
Museum of Fine Art might be willing to divulge secrets over the phone?

Lots of questions for someone else to answer.

A firm believer that you can find almost anything if you look hard
enough....but is it worth the time? That is the tough question.

pat slider.





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:53:48 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: looking for hippo-hunting

> > I am looking for instructions on making a hippopotamus.

There's one in Max Hulme's BOS booklet.

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:04:33 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: handed-ness

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> By the way, I don't really believe it matters which side of your
brain
> does what....as long as you have both hemispheres and their connected,
> everyone has the same opportunities to be creative/analytical,
whatever!
> GENERALIZATIONS BASED ON BIOLOGY ARE DANGEROUS AND FAULTY....

It seems as if my question on handedness may have offended some people.
I can't say that I have actually investigated the current research on
the subject of handedness, and I appreciate the information you have
all provided on the subject.  As my household is split 50-50, we
commonly run into the elbow bumping problems of sitting on the wrong
sides of each other and tease each other about their dominant hand
preference.

As compared to other art forms, origami seems to be much more
analytical.  It has mathematical and geometric components, and reading
or creating diagrams takes visualization and translation skills.  So,
even if there were a correlation between handedness and creativity or
analytical thinking (and the information provided here seems to
indicate there is not!), maybe it would not apply to origami.

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:10:30 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: handedness...

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> However, some moves that require symmetrical creasing I do
symmetrically.
> Example: Petal fold. I lift the point, and form the creases for the
right
> side with my right hand, and form the creases for the left side with
my
> left hand. I'm a lefty, and tend to be ambidextrous anyway. Do others
find
> they do the same?

I am strongly right hand dominant, and when I do a petal fold I first
fold in the right side, then rotate the model 180 degrees so that the
original left side is on the right and fold it in.  However, I have
good spatial perception, and don't get confused when the model is
rotated from the diagram.  I also don't need to rotate maps so that
"straight-ahead" is at the top.

However, many people have brought up issues of cross-dominance (right-
handed vs. left-eyed, etc).  I am also right-eyed, but as I started to
think about this, I remembered that when I was doing gymnastics back in
my teens, I had trouble learning some moves and confusing spotters
because I was left-leg dominant and thus would do the moves "left-
handed".

I guess the fact that drawn diagrams don't specify how to hold the
paper and physically execute a fold is a blessing - it prevents the
confusion that might result if the author were presenting a right-
handed method to a left-handed folder.  A question for those who do
origami videos and shows, and to experienced teachers - has handedness
ever been a problem or a consideration in how you showed a technique?

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:46:46 -0400
From: Bill Hall <billhall@computek.net>
Subject: Re: Crane Print Cloth?

ACPQUINN@myriad.middlebury.edu wrote:
>
> Try the Museum of Fine Art in Boston (or is it NYC? i don't remember) or their
> catalog ... I got a nice paper-crane printed tie from there; they also sell
> silk scarves and maybe vests.

They also have gold paper-crane pins that make great tie tacks for the
paper-crane ties. I love mine.

--
Eschew obfuscation.
Bill Hall <billhall@computek.net>
Dallas





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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:54:29 -0400
From: James_Sakoda@Brown.edu (James Minoru Sakoda)
Subject: Re: Translating Japanese

>>
>> This has been a problem of mine very often.  Does anyone know of
>> software that can help translate Japanese?  Maybe something where you
>> can scan a page in and it can perform some kind of optical character
>> recognition on the Japanese characters, then provide an English
>> translation?
>>
There is a serious problem of reading the Japanese and Chinese characters
in books written in Japanese.  In order to use a Japanese-English
dictionary, for example, and one has the text on hand, one has to be able
to read it in either Japanese kana or spell it out in Roman characters
referred to as Romaji.  One can then find an entry in  the dictionary for
the character you are looking at and find an English translation.  Hence,
not knowing Japanese to start with makes it impossible even to use a
dictionary.
     Then what do Japanese do when they come across a word they cannot read
and hence cannot look up in a dictionary.  They can resort to guessing at
the reading, or fall back on a Chinese character dictionary called Kanwa
Jiten (Chinese-Japanese Dictionary).  The Chinese characters are arranged
by its prominent part known as radicals, which can indicate such things are
water, grass, tree, people, etc.  The radicals are found by counting the
number of strokes, and then going to the part of the dictionary for that
radical, where the words containing the radical are arranged by number of
characters in the whole word.  The reading of the word and its meaning are
then given in Japanese.  Knowing the reading in kana one can translate it
into Romaji and go to a Japanese-English dictionary to find the English
meaning.  Therefore, it is more profitable to look for someone who reads
Japanese who can help you, or study the diagrams in the hopes of being able
to follow it.  James M. Sakoda





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 00:01:20 -0400
From: Bill Hall <billhall@computek.net>
Subject: Re: right-handedness

Pat Slider wrote:
>
> > So I suspect that my parents forced right-handedness on me at an early
> > age.
>
> I too am right-handed but with a dominant left eye. Don't think anyone
> forced me to use my right-hand though. I think this just happens
> sometimes....perhaps with those with a somewhat ambidextrous tendency. My
> son is left-handed, but he does use his right-hand for some tasks.
>
> pat slider.

I am, too. And I know that my parents didn't change my "handedness."
Being right-handed with a dominant left eye sure makes it hard to aim a
rifle. You are forced to use the weak eye or hold the rifle awkwardly! I
don't think the situation affects my folding, though.

--
Eschew obfuscation.
Bill Hall <billhall@computek.net>
Dallas





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 01:11:42 -0400
From: johnf@infinity.ccsi.com (John Fisher)
Subject: Re: overwelmed needs of list

>        I LUV origami, but unfortunately I am unable to handle all these
>messages. I thought I could handle it. Recently I went away for 3 days and
>when I returned I had 461 origami messages to download! PLEASE rescue me!
>How do I unsubscribe?
>        Sincerely,
>                  Regretfully Overwhelmed

Welcome to the Hotel California!

The same thing happened to me.  I even had the foresight to unsubscribe
before I left town.  It didn't take.  Fortunately I didn't blow the doors
off my server's disk.  Everything is back to normal.  I'm glad I like you
guys because it looks like we are going to be friends for a long time!

"You can check out any time you like but you can never leave."





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 01:41:04 -0400
From: "Na. (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi)" <nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp>
Subject: Origami Tanteidan Home Page (Experimental)

Hello,

# Sorry, but the last message was incomplete.

I don't know whether it was accidentally or not, but I was dropped
off from this list from Feb. 9, when it was my birthday.  Is here
the limitation on age?:-)

We Origami Tanteidan members started to serve our experimental
home page on a public site in Japan.  We're maintaining the pages
almost everyday now.  The cover page and some other pages have
English (Jenglish?) version.  Because of the permission of the
site, please don't announce the URL out of this list.

        URL:   http://133.40.74.248/index.html

We're planning to hold Origami Tanteidan Convention '96 on May
25 and 26 in Tokyo.  If some of you have chance and will, how
about folding from simple to super-complex models with Maekawa-
san, Kawasaki-san, Kawahata-san, Yoshino-san, and so on?

--
nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi, not Kenichi Nakanishi)





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 02:54:33 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Origami brooches.

He's at 1137 Main st. Allentown, PA 18104

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 03:56:33 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Teaching origami to children

> tools available at the front of the room - toothpick, blunt pointed
> pencils, straitedge, etc.  If they are having trouble, then you can
> suggest that they try one of the tools before you jump in to help.

Why not just choose designs that are easy? The only tools you should need
are your fingers & a flat surface. The rest just distract & lessen the magic
IMHO.

cheers,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 06:48:03 -0400
From: Bimal Desai <bd1@st-andrews.ac.uk>
Subject: Origami Fantasy in the U.K.?

Greetings all,

I've finally transferred my subscription from my address in the states to
my address here at the University of St. Andrews.  So now that I'm in the
U.K., I'm having trouble finding bookstores that can process requests for
books published in non-european countries.  Specifically, I'm having a
heckuva time trying to order Origami Fantasy (the ultra-cool dino book)
from any source here.  Could any of our subscribers drop me a line and
let me know as much of the publication info about the book itself (I know
this has been requested over and over on the list, but just this one last
time, please...)?  Author, ISBN number, publisher, etc...  Also, could
any of our U.K. subscribers send me info about their favorite bookstores,
the ones who absolutely LOVE to hunt down hard to find books?  I'm in St.
Andrews, Scotland, so any bookstores in the Glasgow-Edinburgh-Dundee area
would be even more convenient for me.

A complex request, granted, but I would really appreciate any help you
guys could give me.  Thanks in advance!

-Bimal

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bimal Ramesh Desai                      bd1@st-andrews.ac.uk





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 07:20:52 -0400
From: osele@world-net.sct.fr (Osele Vincent)
Subject: memory of folding

> How many origamis do each of you know by heart ?
> That's somehow a statistic question. I know I'm curious,
>

The answer is easy, almost 0.  :->

I tried many time to remember only one, so I do the same fold lot of time. I
can do it by heart for a time but if I don't practice, I loose it!
In fact, I can remember one or two if I take a paper and try to fold. But
I'm not sure, but peharps I recreate it ? (only easiest folds...)
After 5 years, I can remember bases, fish, bird: ok.
I have the same behavior in music, I can remember notes by heart.
Am I normal ?  :-))

Vincent...





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 07:25:50 -0400
From: osele@world-net.sct.FR (Osele Vincent)
Subject: Re: Translating Japanese

>
>A good start would be with an article from ORU.
>
>Rona
>
>

I vote for ORU's article two. I'm sure there is lot of good things in it,
but in this state (japanese), it's frustating!

Vincent...





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 07:30:27 -0400
From: osele@world-net.sct.fr (Osele Vincent)
Subject: Re: Louis Vuitton display cranes

>    I asked the manager about them, and she couldn't tell me anything about
>them, as all their displays are imported from Paris.  Anyone want to claim
>responsibility?  :)
>                                      Ever Watchful in Chicago...

It's not me, promised...

But I know a group in France who are specialized in _commercial_ origami!
It's could be them.

We are not in good relation with this group because we are 'benevole' (I
don't know the english terms, excuse me), and they practice agressive
origami marketing! two different world !!!

Vincent...





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 07:34:59 -0400
From: osele@world-net.sct.fr (Osele Vincent)
Subject: Re: Creativity and Edwin Corrie

>
>Let me cheer you up - Edwin was a folder for about 8 years before he
>suddenly discovered his creative touch. Worth the wait, I'm sure you'll
>agree!
>
>cheers,
>
>Nick Robinson
>

There nothing to regret because I like his folds. There are simple but
always with something special that is unwritable :-), but I like..

Vincent...





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 07:42:41 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Rabbit-ear-ness

> Can anyone recommend a good source to learn the rabbit fold?

It shouldn't be a problem as long as you know which sides are moving. The
fold is always performed on a triangular shape, with two sides lining up
with the third side. You can start by bisecting the three angles of the
triangle, then start to put in these creases (as valleys) *at the same
time*. Eventually you run out of paper as you form a point, which can then
be flattened to one side or another.

Hope this is of use,

Nick Robinson

nick@homelink.demon.co.uk
http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/nickdata.html





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 07:47:08 -0400
From: osele@world-net.sct.fr (Osele Vincent)
Subject: Re: Hello (late)

>
>I should have presented myself before my firt message.
>
>My name is Beatrice. I am 35 years old, I am French and I live in Paris.
>I work in a small company dealing with European Public Affairs.
>

Bonjour, ca fait plaisir de ne plus etre seul!

>I am left-handed.But I am not sure my contribution to your statistics is
>valid as I am completely "novice" beginner-in Origami.
>
>As I told Matthieu, I am looking for two things (excuse me if the question
>has already been raised several times) :
>bookshop retailers specialised in origami in Paris (France)

Sais-tu que tu as tout pret de toi le temple de l'origami?
Connais-tu le MFPP ?
    Mouvement Francais des Plieurs de Papier
        56 rue Coriolis PARIS 12eme

Tu y trouvera une bibliotheque remplie de livres,
et certains sont en vente

>web sites regarding origami to learn how to fold
>

Pour apprendre, tu peux passer les voir (je ne dis plus nous car je suis sur
Toulouse maintenant et je n'y vais plus trop!)

>Thks for any help
>Beatrice Crepy
>

Vincent...
A+
Vincent & Veronique





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:44:39 -0400
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Subject: Re: Origami Tanteidan Home Page (Experimental)

At 01:44 AM 2/21/96 -0400, you wrote:

>We Origami Tanteidan members started to serve our experimental
>home page on a public site in Japan.  We're maintaining the pages
>almost everyday now.  The cover page and some other pages have
>English (Jenglish?) version.  Because of the permission of the
>site, please don't announce the URL out of this list.
>
>       URL:  http://133.40.74.248/index.html
>

"SUBARASHII" page!! Way to Go! Tanteidan!

Let's keep the ball ROLLing....

The 56th guest of Tanteidan Page:
|-------------------------------------------------------\
|  _  Sy Chen <chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov>    |\
| |_| Folding Page http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm --\





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:13:17 -0400
From: Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com
Subject: Re: Hand vs. Eye Dominance

I'm hesitant to add to the traffic, having just deleted 97 messages from
my extended weekend. (And I haven't counted the ones I kept...)

If you want more info about research on dominance of hand vs. eye. vs.
foot, you might want to take a look at _The Left-Hander Syndrome_ by
Stanley Coren. (This book included the finding that left-handers die
young.) I admit I never finished it, but one of the early chapters had
much info on percentages of people who are same side dominant or
cross-dominant. Cross-dominance is fairly common.

I, for one, am left-handed, right-armed, right-eyed, and left-footed. Go
figure... (What's the difference between handedness and armedness? I do
most things requiring dexterity  left-handed. I do most things requiring
strength right-handed. So I write left-handed, but I wield my badminton
racket right-handed.) Thank goodness I never intend to aim a gun at
anything.

Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:26:44 -0400
From: Roxanne Shufran <RSHUFRAN@oz.oznet.ksu.edu>
Subject: fabric search (fwd)

Sorry I deleted the message from the person looking for the paper
crane fabric hunter before I thought of the best source for asking
for fabric.  I subscribe to a quilting list and they are the best
source for any fabric.  So this is what I came up with when I asked
my fellow quilters.

 *** Reply to note of 02/20/96 11:07

I have some from Kasuri Fabrics in Berkley California (I don't have the
number, but you can get it from information). The fabric is blue outlines
on white and is made in Japan and is very expensive. Kasuri does do
mail order.

Kate in Sacramento
co1.psklc@ts3.teale.ca.gov

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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:13:50 -0400
From: "Ashley G. Perrien" <perr2232@kutztown.EDU>
Subject: Re: memory of folding

> > How many origamis do each of you know by heart ?
> > That's somehow a statistic question. I know I'm curious,
> >
I've only got a couple down. I know all the bases (except Langs insect
base of course!) and I know I think 4 models. Two of which are dollar
bill folds. I've only gotten back into origami over the christmas break
so much of what I know I've forgotten. But I used to know several off
hand (birds, horses, dogs, bison, etc.)

AshleyP





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:03:04 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Louis Vuitton display cranes

> We are not in good relation with this group because we are 'benevole' (I
> don't know the english terms, excuse me), and they practice agressive
> origami marketing! two different world !!!

I believe that the English translation of "benevole" in this case is
"not for profit".  Probably there was no confusion, but just in case.

                                         A la prochaine,
                                           ... Mark

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|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:12:25 -0400
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: memory of folding.

> > How many origamis do each of you know by heart ?
> > That's somehow a statistic question. I know I'm curious,

That is an interesting question.  Whenever I am "on the spot" asked about
folding a model, my memory tends to completely blank out.  It took me a long
time to remember the crane.  I would learn it, remember, forget.  Repeat.
Probably because I didn't fold many even when I did learn them.  Now it seems
like I couldn't forget it.

It has been a while since I read this, so I hope my recollection does proper
service...  J.C. Nolan talks about memory in his _Creating_Origami_ book.
If you have a core knowledge of the basic folds, and you can develop a high
level memory, which is not "the sequence of folds", but instead is more
along the lines of "head and ears are here, then make the tail, and the
wings" and you "fill in" your memory with folding sequences from your
standard repertoire.  To use a computer metaphor, what you remember is not
low level coding details, but sequences of subroutine/function calls to
the "standard library". ;-)

I noticed sometime after reading Nolan's book that the models that I have
memorized, I have memorized at a higher level.  When I forget a model, the
first thing I forget is how to start it, so my memory (like most) is
sequenced, each step unlocks the next one.

-Doug "I'll ramble more later" Philips





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:30:50 -0400
From: Mary Ellen Verona <mverona@goober.mbhs.edu>
Subject: Re: memory of folding.

Doug Philips wrote:
>
> > > How many origamis do each of you know by heart ?
> > > That's somehow a statistic question. I know I'm curious

For a while I had the crane and frog memorized, as well as the flapping
bird - and if I had to - I could probably figure them out again.

This past weekend I was obsessed by the octogon/star in Fuse's Modular
Origami book.  I started on Friday night - and gave up because I was too
tired to do anything.  Saturday morning I created 3 or 4 really messy
ones.  Kept making them, and kept getting more precise.

Now that I have it memorized - I "understand" it better.  I realize that
there are really only two kinds of moves - done in sequence four times.
They just look different each time because of what's been done already.
I decided that there had to be an easier way of doing it - took it
apart, but couldn't figure out what additional preliminary folds would
help.

As a science/math/computer hybrid, I am amazed at how my spatial
understanding has increased through origami - just since I started over
Christmas.  It is really interesting to speculate how our brains chunk
origami "moves".

--
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:14:09 -0400
From: EAlexG@aol.com
Subject: Re: handed-ness

In a message dated 96-02-20 13:16:48 EST, you write:

>I guess I didn't make clear my purpose in asking the question about
>handedness originally.  The stuff that I have read suggests that people
>who are right-hand dominant are thus left-brain dominant, and the left
>hemisphere of the brain is thought to be more analytical.  Left-handers
>are right-brain dominant, and the right hemishpere is thought to be
>more creative.  I was curious if there was a correlation between handed-
>ness and creativity as it relates to origami.
>
>So far, it seems that most responses have been from right-handers,
>which probably tracks with the predominance of right-handedness in the
>population as a whole.  Maybe one of our college student subscribers
>could make a project out of this and do a statistical analysis to see
>if there is a statistically significant correlation between handedness
>in origami folders and/or origami creators as compared to the
>population as a whole.
>
>Janet Hamilton
>dbsh47b@prodigy.com

There have been quite a number of studies done regarding left and
right-handedness as it corresponds to artistic fields of endeavor, but I
can't recall origami ever being listed in any of them. You could probably
find the information at a University that has a good Design School Library (I
graduated from NC State Univ. School of Design -- which has a large design
library). I remember that there is quite a discussion in a book called
"Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" which has been reprinted for art
students for the past few decades since the original research was done in the
1970's.

In any case, I am an ambidexterous architect/science writer/artist -- I write
with my right hand only because I was taught that way, but I draw with both
hands equally and use my left hand for a variety of tasks including eating,
and creasing origami folds!  ;)

E. Alexander Gerster
South Miami, FL
EAlexG@aol.com





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:01:50 -0400
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Fuse Octagon star (was Re: memory of folding.)

Mary Ellen Verona wrote about Fuse's Octagon Star model:

+I decided that there had to be an easier way of doing it - took it
+apart, but couldn't figure out what additional preliminary folds would
+help.

There are a few extra precreases you can add.  I won't spoil your "Aha!" joy
by telling you what they are.  But they are there.  Keep looking!

I love that model, though the diagrams for the last set of four points I found
to be very confusing.  I still don't understand them, but I know what I am
supposed to do, so I just do it and ignore the diagrams.

+Christmas.  It is really interesting to speculate how our brains chunk
+origami "moves".

:-)

-Doug





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:16:13 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: memory of folding.

Doug Philips raised the issue of how we remember models,

> When I forget a model, the
> first thing I forget is how to start it, so my memory (like most) is
> sequenced, each step unlocks the next one.

I have an intense memory from when I was something like 10 years old
of models how I learned models by heart.  I would learn them by following
the instructions in a book once or twice and then I found that I could
close the book and start folding from the first step.  I couldn't tell
you anything about a sequence of steps in the middle of a model, but
somehow each step followed naturally from the last .  And when it didn't,
I was intrigued and opened up the book to see what had gone wrong.
Once memorized, I could then earn prestige by teaching other kids in
the school yard :-)
                                          ... Mark

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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:21:28 -0400
From: Michael J Gebis <gebis@ecn.purdue.edu>
Subject: Re: memory of folding

> > How many origamis do each of you know by heart ?
> > That's somehow a statistic question. I know I'm curious,
>
> I tried many time to remember only one, so I do the same fold lot of time. I
> can do it by heart for a time but if I don't practice, I loose it!

Rote memorization is definitely NOT the way to go.  Like you point
out, it's easy to forget models you learn this way.

After you've folded enough different models, you'll start to memorize
them without even realizing it.  To tell the truth, I don't think I
have the models actually memorized; it's just that I'm able to figure
out the folding process anew each time I do it!

In my own experience, after I've folded the first 4 or 5 steps of
Montroll's Apatasaurus, I can't help but finish it.  Each step makes
perfect sense; I never think to myself "ok, now what?"  At each step,
then next fold is obvious to me.  In fact, I can't believe that I ever
had trouble with this model, which of course, I did.

In most models, I do get to points in the folding sequence where the
next step is not obvious; however, once I memorize those few stopping
points, I'm usually able to memorize the whole thing.

I still come across models which completely defeat my internal logic,
of course.  I just don't have the appropriate sequences in my mind,
yet.

I think that after enough models, you start to build and memorize
generalized folding sequences in your head.  I suppose once I build
enough of these sequences up myself, I'll be able to assemble them in
new orders and create my own models.  :)

--
Mike Gebis  gebis@ecn.purdue.edu





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:32:00 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: memory of folding.

 Mary Ellen Verona wrote,

> As a science/math/computer hybrid, I am amazed at how my spatial
> understanding has increased through origami - just since I started over
> Christmas.  It is really interesting to speculate how our brains chunk
> origami "moves".

Hmmm...  Does the ability to do origami correlate with a good 3-dimensional
imagination?  I found out just how much the ability to imagine things in
3D varies from person to person when I had to teach about isomers in
chemistry.  Is origami a good tool for developing a 3D imagination?  Are
some models better than others for this purpose?  Recommendations anyone?

                            ... Mark

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 20:21:58 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Inventing your own designs (to all)

In answer to relationship between job and design ability or even those of us
who have a fascination with Origami, David Lister talks about making linkages
and I now believe that that is what all of us have in common....skill at
making linkages.  Some to a  far greater degree than others.  What do others
think?  This has been a question I have had in my mind for a long
time......what basic ability do we have in common...we origamists. Dorigami





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 20:27:52 -0400
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: overwhelmed by messages

There are so many people who seem to have trouble dealing with the
listserver that I don't know if this will help, but for what its worth:

If you want to stop delivery of messages for a short time (going away on
vacation, etc) you can try this:

send a message to listserv@nstn.ns.ca
no subject
in the body of the message write
SET origami-l NOMAIL

When you want to start receiving messages again, send a mesage to
listserv@nstn.ns.ca
no subject
in the body of the message write
SET origami-l MAIL

Just one other hint, since I haven't seen it mentioned -- try using all
capital letters or all lower case or, as above, commands in caps and
listname in lowercase.  Sometimes one of these will go through when others
won't.

Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 20:54:18 -0400
From: Lanny Robertson <inat@pacificrim.net>
Subject: Thanx to U all, an appologee (sp?:-\), a suggestion to try

Thax to you all! And I am forever the slave of the one who suggested the
digest format to me!! Before Usubscribing, I suggest you all try to reset it
as a DIGEST!!! You can do this by:
        Writting to listserver@nstn.ca
        and simply writting in the message body, MAIL mode reset to DIGEST
It really works!!!! If your only problem was having 40+ messages a day to
deal with, as was mine, this puts them all into one long "letter".
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you still want to unsubscribe you must write to...
                listserver@nstn.ca from the address you subscribed from and
                  in the body simply say UNSUBSCRIBE: ORIGAMI-1
This USUALLY works...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Also to the few who took my original exaggeration of 461 messages in
3 days seriously, I'm So sorry. Truth is I felt guilty/silly about simply
saying getting 30+ messages a day was too much for me, don't ask me why!,
and was simply tring to lighten the mood.

        Nora Robertson

        P.S. If you use either the unsubscribe or the Digest suggestion, and
it works or does not work, please respond to ME, Nora Robertson, at
inat@pacificrim.net
lotsa smiles,:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)





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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 21:57:19 -0400
From: jwu@cs.ubc.CA (Joseph Wu)
Subject: Re: Hand vs. Eye Dominance

At 11:13 AM 96.2.21, Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com wrote:
>If you want more info about research on dominance of hand vs. eye. vs.
>foot, you might want to take a look at _The Left-Hander Syndrome_ by
>Stanley Coren. (This book included the finding that left-handers die
>young.) I admit I never finished it, but one of the early chapters had
>much info on percentages of people who are same side dominant or
>cross-dominant. Cross-dominance is fairly common.

Funny you should mention Stan Coren. I studied under him once. He's got
some interesting theories, including birth trauma being a factor in
determining handedness...

Incidentally, I am strongly right-handed, right eye dominant, and the
whorl of my hair is on the right. However, I have no preferred folding
orientation or hand, doing most manoeuvres (sp? and I don't want the
American spelling, thank you) with equal facility with both hands. As
for creating, I've got a few models that I've created here and there. 8)

 Joseph Wu                      Webmaster of the Origami Page
<jwu@cs.ubc.ca> <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
  Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view.
  Explore the vessel. Make friends with the Captain. Fish a
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 23:20:23 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: how many models

 I remember models by doing them repeatedly, but if I stop for a while, I
 begin to forget some details and the next one I fold may be a bit off in
 some way.  So I fudge it and sometimes find alternative forms.

 I can't remember the folds in the dollar bill bow tie but I do remember
 the end result and can usually get there using my experience.

 Cowlicks are referred to in Topology as singularity points of a vector
 field on a manifold.  Earth's latitude and longitude are a vector field
 which has two singularities at the poles.  The lines of force around a
 bar magnate are another example with one singularity.

 The manifold in this case is the surface of your head which is a good
 approximation to a sphere.  When I studied this years ago my prof., a Dr.
 Leach at Case Tech, called the subject "combing the hair on a spherical
 dog".

 John Andrisan
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 23:40:07 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: vector fields and cowlicks

 How silly of me... the field around a bar magnate has two singularities,
 one at each pole.  An example of a single singularity field is a whirl-
 pool.

 Maybe someone can help me with my memory on the next part, I think the
 singularities have values like +1 or -1 or such, and that the sum of the
 singularities on a manifold is 2*n-2 where n is the genus of the
 surface, or the number of holes in it. A torus has one hole, a sphere
 has none. So that determines how many cowlicks of a certain type one can
 have.

 John Andrisan
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:32:55 -0400
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: Re: spherical dogs

John Andrisan said:  (Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com)

> The manifold in this case is the surface of your head which is a good
> approximation to a sphere.  When I studied this years ago my prof., a Dr.
> Leach at Case Tech, called the subject "combing the hair on a spherical
> dog".

        And the theorem that every (continuous) tangent vector field on the
sphere has at least one critical point is known as the "You can't comb a
monkey" Theorem. :-)

        Of course, I have yet to find a dog or monkey that is topologically
equivalent to a sphere...even most origami models have ears, or eyes, or a
mouth. But then what does that make them equivalent to? Some two- or
three-holed torus???

-Eric  :-P

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         A                    ---------------+---------------
        /|\                             ___ /^^[___              _
       / | \      ------>              /|^+----+   |#___________//
      /__|__\     Repeat             ( -+ |____|    ______-----+/
      \  |  /      steps              ==_________--'            \
       \ | /        9 to 658            ~_|___|__
        \|/          behind...
         V                                            Eric Andersen
     Bird Base           http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric/origami





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:53:17 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re:aggressive marketing

Display cranes......
Mark.  what do you mean by aggressive marketing of origami.Do you mean
selling of origami products such as jewelry or ornaments, or selling of
books, or selling of time teaching Origami......Dorigami





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:54:46 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: models by heart

Ashley asks how many models do you know by heart.....I have an associative
memory and can't remember facts or names easily but I seem to have committed
about 500  origami models to memory...these include money, napkin, magic
tricks, scarf folds, and include the butterfly ball, Fred Rohms star of David
from a square ( my favorite), and many others.  I do a great deal of teaching
and this store of models in my head makes it easy for me to be flexible and
change models to suit the needs of the group.  I wonder how many models
others remember.  Of course this does not include many of the really
sophisticated folds with many steps in them.  I have an enormous collection
of diagrams and probably 150 books that I have collected for 35 years now and
so know where to find models when I need them.  How about the rest of you.
 Dorigami





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 01:10:01 -0400
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: Re: vector fields and cowlicks

At 11:41 PM 2/21/96 -0400, John Andrisan (a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com)
wrote:

> Maybe someone can help me with my memory on the next part, I think the
> singularities have values like +1 or -1 or such, and that the sum of the
> singularities on a manifold is 2*n-2 where n is the genus of the
> surface, or the number of holes in it. A torus has one hole, a sphere
> has none. So that determines how many cowlicks of a certain type one can
> have.

The "value" you speak of is called the local index of a vector field at an
isolated singularity (the zero has to be isolated), which is indeed +1, or
-1, depending on whether the vectors in the vector field wind clockwise or
counterclockwise around the singularity. Essentially, the local index of V
at P is the winding number of V on a really small circle around P (small
enough so that P is the only zero in the circle).

However, the sum of the local indices of a vector field on the sphere is
always 2, so your formula doesn't work. (And that's why you can't comb a
monkey; if the sum of the local indices is 2, you can't possibly have 0
places where the vector field vanishes).

Maybe you mean the sum of the local indices is 2 - 2n for surface of genus
n, which proves that the torus is the only thing you can comb successfully,
which brings up my original question...if we were to fold an anatomically
correct animal, how many holes would it have in it? Do the holes in our ears
connect up like they do in the cartoons?

-Eric :-P

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         A                    ---------------+---------------
        /|\                             ___ /^^[___              _
       / | \      ------>              /|^+----+   |#___________//
      /__|__\     Repeat             ( -+ |____|    ______-----+/
      \  |  /      steps              ==_________--'            \
       \ | /        9 to 658            ~_|___|__
        \|/          behind...
         V                                            Eric Andersen
     Bird Base           http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric/origami





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 01:30:16 -0400
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: Re: models by "heart"

At 12:56 AM 2/22/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Ashley asks how many models do you know by heart.....I have an associative
>memory and can't remember facts or names easily but I seem to have committed
>about 500  origami models to memory...

Wow! I probably don't have more than 50 or 60 models memorized (of course,
most of them are Montroll, Lang, Kasahara, and other models of fairly high
complexity). As for memorizing, I was in a bookstore the other day looking
for heart models and found a book which had a "side by side" heart model,
folded from a 2x1 piece of paper. I liked the model so much that I read the
directions and memorized it on the spot! Of course, it didn't have more than
15 or 20 steps, but once I could see it being folded in my head, the
memorization came naturally. I guess you could say I knew it by heart...

        My apologies to the author and creator of this model, neither of
which I can remember (now what does that say???). And speaking of heart
models, I love Francis Ow's new book...I have at least ten of the models
memorized. They were a real hit with my friends on Valentine's Day (no luck
for me, however...)

-Eric  :-P

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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 02:09:04 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: "proper" folding

In addition to all of the other poses you forgot upside down... when you're
folding a T Rex.
dorigami





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 02:18:17 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re: memory of folding.

I don't know about teaching origami to increase 3D imagination, but I know that
I nearly always scored in about the 98th or 99th percentile on those weird
tests you take in school that you fill out the little dots with your handy #2
pencil... you know, the ones where they show you a cube with a design on like
3 sides and you have to pick out of four possible 6 square crosses which one
     will
produce that cube? I never did as well on the ones where you were given a row
ofsay 6 b'sand a p and you had to fill in the circle under the p... I don't
know whether this helps me to figure out some of the models or what...
especially since I don't actually "make up" any of my own... I do think it helps
me to memorize models though - I memorized Jeremy Shafer's "Enterprise" after
folding it about twice. (Although that may be due more to the subject matter
of the model, too!! ;-)

Dee





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 02:22:54 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re:  vector fields and cowlicks

So, John - I'm not a math person, but are you saying we have to have a hole in
our head to have a cowlick, or the number od holes we DO have in our head
     determines
how many cowlicks we have? ;-)

Dee





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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 02:27:29 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re: models by heart

It's funny, I have probably about 35 books or so in my "collection" (I used to
think that was a lot, I now know that is pretty modest compared to... ) but
there are some that I go back to over and over again, but if I need a particluar
model, I can usually remember which book it is in...
