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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:49:12 -0400
From: marckrsh@pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: Closed sinks-How to, Lang's Cicada step 54-Help needed

On Feb 14, 1996 23:55:23, 'schary@VNET.IBM.COM' wrote:

>Hi all,
>What is the technique to do closed sinks? I can do closed sinks
>for small triangular flaps (like the top of a waterbomb base), but
>how does one do closed sinks for large irregular shapes (many many
>involved in Langs-Insects...Robert, How did you even visualise
>such complex folds?????).

I have heard that by neglecting one's plumbing maintenance, you will have
closed sinks... If you want to practice closed sinking, use waterbase-style
bases. The more acute the angle of the point to be sunk, the more difficult
it is to do. You vcan work your way up in difficulty.

>I am having trouble with step 54 in the Cicada from Origami
>Insects...it says Crimp by spreading layers evenly...there are 3 layers
>here, and when I crimp, I can't get it to be even...Help!!

I tried the model up to that step, and I see what you are refering to. When
you look at the flap's edge from the outside, you will see 3 layers as you
noted. The trick is to open up the flap, and look at it from the inside;
you will then be in view of 4 layers, which can be evenly distributed when
doing the crimp. Good luck with the rest of the model.

Marc





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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 23:06:12 -0400
From: marckrsh@pipeline.com (Marc Kirschenbaum)
Subject: Re: OUSA '96 question

On Feb 15, 1996 20:51:10, '"Jeffrey M. Goff" <jgoff@esu6.esu6.k12.ne.us>'
wrote:

>When and where will it be held this year?
>I've got to make vacation plans early this year, so I thought I'd check
in.
>My understanding is that it's going to be held in New York sometime in
>August.
>

The date has been set as June 28-30 at the Fashion Institute of Technology
in NYC (where it has been for the last few years). Members of Origami USA
will be receiving additional information on this big event as the date
draws near. Marc





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 00:38:04 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: photographing origami

The person you want to ask on this is Robin Macey, the BOS unofficial
photographer for god-know-how-many years. He's "done" los of books,
including some Lang epics.

He subscribes to this list, I believe.

Nick Robinson





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 01:12:38 -0400
From: cwalker@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us (Cindy Walker)
Subject: Inventing your own designs

        I've rekindled my love of origami in the last few years and I was
wondering...when I fold other people's designs they usually turn out well,
even complicated ones.  However, I've always considered the test of whether
you are really good at something to be whether you can CREATE designs as
well as you execute them.  Yet with origami, I'm clueless about how to
design my own origami creations.  I'd love to have that skill.  How many of
you can design your own creations?  I'm guessing that those of you that can
just keep folding in different ways until you realize "hey, this looks sort
of like a cow (or whatever)" then continue to work on making it look more
like that.  Maybe if I folded for years and years it would start to become
more clear to me.

        How do you origami creators do it?

        Cindy Walker

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 03:18:03 -0400
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Re: Where's the pretty paper?

Jennifer -
There are so many wonderful papers to choose from, one doesn't quite know
where to start.  I can, however, give you a source if you're looking for
washi paper - me!  If you'd like a copy of the available prints, please
email me privately with your regular USnail mailing address.

Thanks -
Bren

-------------------------------------------------------
At 06:02 PM 2/15/96 -0400, you wrote:
>     Greetings, all!
>
>     Could anyone please tell me the grand secret to obtaining paper that
>     even comes close to the beautiful material used by the pros for their
>     origami book examples?  Maybe I'm exhibiting unbridled hubris, but I'd
>     like a shot at making some really nice gifts.
>
>     Thanks!
>
>     Jennifer (JAndre@cfipro.com)
>
>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 05:09:09 -0400
From: knuffke@sirius.com (Charles Knuffke)
Subject: Re: Inventing your own designs

>
>        How do you origami creators do it?
>

Don't look at me - I'm just starting to play around with multiple twist
folds, and have yet to see it come up looking like anything useable.
However, if you're interested in someone else's take on Origami creations,
take a look at JC Nolan's "Creative Origami". He spends a good part of the
book talking about how he came up with ideas for models (usually while
trying to design something else), as well as info he's gleamed from other
creators.

A must have text for an Origami bibliophile.

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Charles Knuffke               knuffke@sirius.com
153 Divisadero
San Francisco CA 94104
          "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 05:12:49 -0400
From: Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@uh.edu>
Subject: Re: Where's the pretty paper?

>>>>> "BR" == Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com> writes:

BR> There are so many wonderful papers to choose from, one doesn't quite
BR> know where to start.

I think that's an understatement.  I checked out the Fascinating Folds page
and was sort of overwhelmed by the array of papers available.  What I
didn't see, though, was a general assortment of all kinds of paper.  I fold
all kinds of models, including piles of simple ones to give away and as
many of the complicated ones as I can find time to do.  I'd like to be able
to get a well-chosen assortment in various sizes and colors, with a few
foils and prints thrown in.  Maybe 500 sheets in sizes from 3" to 10" or
so.  Any possibility of seeing anything like this?
--
      Jason L. Tibbitts III - tibbs@uh.edu - 713/743-8684 - 221SR1
System Manager:  University of Houston High Performance Computing Center
                1994 PC800 "Kuroneko"      DoD# 1723





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 05:16:06 -0400
From: knuffke@sirius.com (Charles Knuffke)
Subject: Re: Speaking of books...

>>
>>>If you really want to practice your Japanese, I would probably recommend a
>>>few issues of _Oru_ magazine. Lots of text, probably a lot more than your
>>>typical Origami book.
>>
>>hmmm...pray tell where can one pick up a copy of said magazine?
>>

I know that you can also call up the Sasuga Bookstore in Mass for Oru
Magazines. Their Phone # is (617) 497-5460, and I've been impressed by
their ability to respond quickly to my Origami needs. I believe they have
copys of issues 1-10 available now, but the newest issue , # 11, is
temporarily out of stock right now.

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Charles Knuffke               knuffke@sirius.com
153 Divisadero
San Francisco CA 94104
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:57:40 -0400
From: "Ashley G. Perrien" <perr2232@kutztown.edu>
Subject: Re: Closed sinks-How to, Lang's Cicada step 54-Help needed

> I tried the model up to that step, and I see what you are refering to. When
> you look at the flap's edge from the outside, you will see 3 layers as you
> noted. The trick is to open up the flap, and look at it from the inside;
> you will then be in view of 4 layers, which can be evenly distributed when
> doing the crimp. Good luck with the rest of the model.
>
Hate to burst someone's bubble but you're not out of the woods yet. In a
few steps there's another difficult spread sink I believe. I tried
folding the model yesterday and doing the spread produced nothing but a
few tears, crumpled paper and one very frustrated origamist.

Oh well, back to the drawing board.

AshleyP





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:04:45 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.CA (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Some random thoughts...

Mike Gebis remarked:

> I recently developed a model of a saltine.  I belive that it's one of
> the finest examples of 0 fold origami to be found. :)

I would just like to point out that, when "folded" out of perfectly
white paper, this model also makes an excellent model of a polar bear
in a North Dakota snow storm.

                             ciao!
                                     ... Mark

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:04:21 -0400
From: "Ashley G. Perrien" <perr2232@kutztown.EDU>
Subject: Re: Inventing your own designs

>         How do you origami creators do it?
>
A question I'd like very much answered. I'm in basically the same
position, I can recreate models presented in books with instructions but
am clueless how to do my own.

AshleyP





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 10:05:00 -0400
From: JRMetzger@aol.com
Subject: Brill's Brilliant Origami

To All -

Run, don't walk, to your nearest bookstore (large or small),
and get this book! At $20, it's a steal. Now for a mini review
- please realize I haven't done any "new" ones yet in it, I can
just tell you (some of) what's in it.

the "Flasher", the ***Nut & Bolt*** (for those few of us who
don't happen to have der falter #8), his bottle, box w/lid,
working matchbox, an amazing one-piece pack of cigarettes, a
money box (pushka), books, a large selection of cool modular origami, animals

including squirrel, goose, fox, foxhound, a great rhinoceros
and elephant, lion cub, dragon w/flapping wings and from
triangles, his horse, lion, and lioness. Then he's got a whole slew of
human figures, including a great 3-piece witch, santa with
reindeer and sleigh, wise men, etc.

The book is very well presented, with with beautiful color
photos in the front of the book.

Yaacov





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 11:30:57 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: photography and teaching

James M. Sakoda mentionned the idea of photographing origami with
a video camera.  His purpose was to load the image into a computer.
Even without the computer a video camera and TV monitor could be used
to
  1) illustrate how the camera sees the object being photographed in
     a course on photographing origami
  2) help students get a better look at what the teacher is doing with
     his/her hands in a course on folding origami.

                                  ... Mark
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:05:47 -0400
From: Sandra Hoffman <ghidra@magi.com>
Subject: Re: Inventing your own designs

On Fri, 16 Feb 1996, Ashley G. Perrien wrote:

> >         How do you origami creators do it?
> >
> A question I'd like very much answered. I'm in basically the same
> position, I can recreate models presented in books with instructions but
> am clueless how to do my own.

I am not by any means an expert at origami let alone a creator of origami
models, but I do find necessity a powerful mother at times. I needed a
reindeer, and didn't have one in any of my books, and couldn't get
anywhere to get another book. I did have directions for a cow, so I
adapted the cow, by adjusting the folds to give the more slender
proportions of a reindeer, and then worked for about 45 minutes to get a
reasonably presentable head with antlers. It was not a particularly
elegant or beautiful model, but it was for my children, and they felt it
looked enough like a reindeer to pass.

It taught me that I really have a lot more to learn before I presume to
design, but that one strategy for learning to design is to start with
other preferably simple models, see what they suggest to you, and try to
work out the changes needed. Sort of a midway step from folding others
designs to creating your own from scratch.

sph

ghidra@magi.com

"This will do," said the bunyip to himself.
"No one can see me here. I can be as handsome as I like.





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:26:58 -0400
From: dzimm@nando.NET (David Zimmerman)
Subject: Re: "proper" folding

"> Ninety Six Elementary wrote ..."
>
> At 09:54 AM 2/15/96 -0400, you wrote:
> >"> BOB T. LYNCH wrote ..."
> >>
> >>
> >>         (I am terribly nearsighted but I find myself taking them off or
> looking
> >> over them to do small close-up work... ) and usually with my tongue caught
> >> between my front teeth!
> >>
> >I hear you. I also do close up work without my glasses and I can *not* keep
> >my tongue in my head when folding paper.
> >
> >Just finished the tick in my effort to fold the bugs from front to back. The
> >tick was *much* easier than two spiders that come immediately before it.
> >
> >--
> >David P Zimmerman       dzimm@nando.net
> >916 Riderwood Ct         919 557 7692
> >WillowSpring NC 27592           D-17293
> >
> > "That's the whole problem with science.  You've got a bunch of
> >   empiricists trying to describe things of unimaginable wonder."
> >                            -Calvin
> >
> >Maybe you can give me a suggestion..  I got the tick folded except for the
> every last lock and then my feeble brain shut down and I can not seem to get
> that one last fold to look right.  Is it possible to help people figure out
> how to complete origami over E-mail?  Thanks  Marsha DuPre
>
Which last fold? The hungry tick or the engorged one?

--
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:30:36 -0400
From: Ninety Six Elementary <frick@emeraldis.com>
Subject: Re: Where's the pretty paper?

At 05:12 AM 2/16/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>> "BR" == Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com> writes:
>
>BR> There are so many wonderful papers to choose from, one doesn't quite
>BR> know where to start.
>
>I think that's an understatement.  I checked out the Fascinating Folds page
>and was sort of overwhelmed by the array of papers available.  What I
>didn't see, though, was a general assortment of all kinds of paper.  I fold
>all kinds of models, including piles of simple ones to give away and as
>many of the complicated ones as I can find time to do.  I'd like to be able
>to get a well-chosen assortment in various sizes and colors, with a few
>foils and prints thrown in.  Maybe 500 sheets in sizes from 3" to 10" or
>so.  Any possibility of seeing anything like this?
>--
>      Jason L. Tibbitts III - tibbs@uh.edu - 713/743-8684 - 221SR1
>System Manager:  University of Houston High Performance Computing Center
>                1994 PC800 "Kuroneko"      DoD# 1723
>
>IMHO the only way to go is to start cutting your own squares.  Invest in a
good paper cutter and for big sheets buy a gridded hard plastic mat and a
rotary cutter, the type used by quilters.  With practice you can cut most
any size paper acurately.  Marsha DuPre





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 12:37:24 -0400
From: Iron Will Dawes <wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: creating models

  One subscriber (I'm sorry; I didn't see a name) described modifying
a cow design to get a reindeer. In my mind, this is certainly the best
way to begin designing new models. I was modifying existing designs
for a few years before I came up with anything which I felt
comfortable calling "original".
  I would strongly recommend to people wishing to begin creating new
designs that they read through John Montroll's "Origami Sculptures".
In that book, Mr. Montroll's dog base is used to create three
different dogs, a horse, a bison, a camel and a dromedary (I may be
forgetting a few). His insect base is also modified to create two
distinct insects. I think examining how he modified these bases to
arrive at the different models can be very heuristic for one aspiring
to make original designs.
                              -Will (wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu)





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:10:46 -0400
From: "Andrew P. Anselmo" <anselmo@ERXSG.rl.plh.af.mil>
Subject: Inventing your own designs...

As someone who is just starting to get into making up new
origami designs, the only suggestion I can make is to fold
whenever you can (planes, trains, waiting in line), and to
just try new things.  Folding other people's models can help
in learning neat tricks and moves.

You might expand this discussion to 'where does creativity
come from'; there have been a few books on this subject, I'm sure.
It's kind of like asking a SF writer, "Where do you get those crazy
ideas?"

A.

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 13:39:31 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Chinese detainees

I understand why they are being held.  I just don't understand why
they are in a MAXIMUM SECURITY prison.  Are they dangerous?

   The Chinese are being held in the prison because they are basically
   illegal aliens from the point of view of the immigration service. I
   forget exactly how they got to the U.S, but it was not through the normal
   immigration channels. Most of the detainees are claiming they are or will
   be victims of political persecution in China. Apparently, they are having
   difficulty convincing the immigration service that this is true. They are
   being housed/detained in the York County Prison until he issue is
   resolved. I believe they are been there a year or two at this point.

                                 Dave Dewey

   Jeannine Mosely wrote:
   >
   > I think Rob is brave to go into the prison after the cautionary
   > instructions he's been given.  I am grateful that he is willing to do
   > this research.  But I can't help wondering, why are these refugees
   > being held in such a place?  What have they done to deserve this?
   >
   >         -- jeannine mosely





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 14:05:05 -0400
From: "Ashley G. Perrien" <perr2232@kutztown.edu>
Subject: Re: Brill's Brilliant Origami

> Run, don't walk, to your nearest bookstore (large or small),
> and get this book! At $20, it's a steal. Now for a mini review

2 questions: I don't have the first few posts on this book so could you
kindly repost the info on it? Just Author, Title and whatever else is
relevant. I assume the title's just "Brilliant Origami"? Also, how many
models are included and of what level is the complexity of them?

TIA,
AshleyP





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 14:31:08 -0400
From: David Holmes <cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Inventing your own designs...

On Fri, 16 Feb 1996, Andrew P. Anselmo wrote:

> As someone who is just starting to get into making up new
> origami designs, the only suggestion I can make is to fold
> whenever you can (planes, trains, waiting in line), and to
> just try new things.  Folding other people's models can help
> in learning neat tricks and moves.
>

I must agree.  Although I am also still very much a beginner I have
developed a very simple (pureland perhaps) seal pup model, by just trying
out and combining different folds to see what sort of shapes I can come
up with.

Also, you could start by thinking of a familiar or favourite object and
seeing if you can come up with a model of it.  I'm thinking of having a
go at the Starship Enterprise, although I may use two sheets of paper :)

>
> You might expand this discussion to 'where does creativity
> come from'; there have been a few books on this subject, I'm sure.
>

Good idea.  Perhaps a topic for Robert Lang :)

David M Holmes                  cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 14:56:40 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: new folds

 Sometimes I see a fold, like a Japanese garden lantern, and find the
 four-legged stand interesting, and soon I have converted it into a
 tripod for my airplanes. A few of the steps are from the original, but
 most are my invention to get the shape I want.

 And then there are the times when I forgot the original fold and it's
 not available to me, so I just target for the result, using various
 techniques from other experiences.  I may not get the fold I wanted,
 but I get a few interesting new ones.

 John Andrisan
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 15:15:57 -0400
From: schary@VNET.IBM.COM
Subject: Closed sinks-how to and Cicada help needed..Continued

Hello,
  Got past step 54 (and the preliminary base formed looks pretty
awful...need to practice this some more), and got stuck a few more
steps down the track...steps 61 thru 66!!! This is one humdinger of
a fold. I just ignored sinking and pulled the flap out and continued
on....and when ever it said closed sinks, I just used mountain folds...
I didn't care, I just wanted to get to the last step! Well I have
the Cicada (if you can use a lot of imagination that is)!! This is
one tough model! But I can see proper folding would look great!
  A comment about one more note, yes I found the tick to be surprisingly
simple as well as the Scarab Beetle,,,I have 2 of these creatures
running on my desk at work!

Thanks for the help on step 54..
Sreenath-----schary@vnet.ibm.com





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 16:01:37 -0400
From: LapinPub@aol.com
Subject: A small correction...

>
>>
>>        How do you origami creators do it?
>>
>
>Don't look at me - I'm just starting to play around with multiple twist
>folds, and have yet to see it come up looking like anything useable.
>However, if you're interested in someone else's take on Origami creations,
>take a look at JC Nolan's "Creative Origami". He spends a good part of the
>book talking about how he came up with ideas for models (usually while
>trying to design something else), as well as info he's gleamed from other
>creators.
>
>A must have text for an Origami bibliophile.
>

Thanks so much for the "Bon Mots" Charles, but a small correction...The title
is "Creating Origami".  I believe that "Creative Origami" was by Kasahara.
 The book can be published through OUSA, Fascinating Folds
(fascfold@fascinating-folds.com) or the publisher Alexander, Blace & Co
((508) 373-5645).

J.C. Nolan





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 16:02:50 -0400
From: LapinPub@aol.com
Subject: Re: Inventing your own designs - Creating Origami

Cindy & Ashley,

Congratulations on your aspiring to design on your own.  It is not nearly as
difficult as one might think, but it is extremely difficult to talk about
(describe that is).  There are many reasons for this the primary one being
that many creators are not really aware of how they do it and when asked they
are unable to put the process into words.  It was this that led me to writing
"Creating Origami."  When I started designing (by accident) I wanted answers
to many questions about creating but found that the answers were not
available.  So I decided to continue to create and write about my experiences
as I progressed.  Three years later I had a book.  One reader described the
book as a travelogue, and that's how I like to think of it.  A description of
one creators journey.

Best of luck and keep me posted on your progress!

J.C. Nolan (LapinPub@aol.com)





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 16:03:15 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Inventing your own designs

I don't have much time to create new models anymore, but when
I do I pretty much follow the classic sequence of steps:

1) visualization of key attributes of the object, especially how
   many "points" will be needed

2) selection of a base which has the right number of points from
   the reportory of origami bases

3) if I'm lucky, then a little bit of "ornamentation" will allow
   me to turn that base into an approximation of what I originally
   had in mind.

Notes:

1) often many tries based on several sketches and bases are
   necessary to get a satisfactory result

2) it is important to have a solid reportory (or at least understanding)
   of bases

3) Engel and Lang have convinced me that it is also possible to
   custom design bases to have the right number of points in the
   right places

4) I can't help but remark that all of this reminds me of modeling
   in applied mathematics, physics, or chemistry.  You make a model
   and try it out.  Often you make several models and try them out.
   Then you refine the one which works the best.  Sometimes you have
   to go back to the drawing board and start over.

                                ... Mark

--
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|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:46:25 -0400
From: Rich Will Powers <rpowers@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Inventing your own designs - Creating Origami

I got on the first steps towards creating my own designs just by
partially taking apart a crane, and folding it in other ways to see
how it looks.  Just by experimenting with folding it in different ways
I came upon several folds where it looked recognizably like a monster
snout with big ears, a dog's face with snout and floppy ears, a
hunting cap, a helmet, etc.  It was a lot of fun experimenting.

rwp
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 18:47:35 -0400
From: mrh_dmz@bart.nl (M.R. Hoare)
Subject: Re: T.rex skeleton

Just to thank everyone who replied to me about the t.rex skeleton. People on
this list really are very kind and helpful. Part of the culture?
Thank you.
MaryRose Hoare





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:10:14 -0400
From: Allen Parry <parry@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Dollar Bill folds

On Fri, 16 Feb 1996, David Holmes wrote:

>
> On Sat, 10 Feb 1996, Allen Parry wrote:
>
> > I have quite a collection of dollar bill origami that I'd like to
> > expand.  Here is a list of what I have so far:
> > *Gecko, *Falcon, *Mouse, *Dog, *Turtle, *Eagle 1, *Rabbit 1, *Ram, *Calf,
> > *Sailboat, *Armidillo, *Dinosaur, *Caterpillar, *Pellican, *Rabbit 2, Bow
> > Tie 1 & 2, Eagle 2, Elf Boots, Money Talks, Peacock, Shirt, Rings, A pair
> > of hearts, Single heart, Throwing Star, Frogs, Framed President, Rotating
> > Tetra, Dolphin, Pin Wheel, Elephants, Cartagan, and a puzzle that is hard
> > to unfold ($100 bills provide greater incentive).
> > (Items with * are original creations)
> >
> > I'd like to expand my collection and would be interested in trading with
> > others.  I don't have them illustrated but I could send samples.  (I use
> > paper imitation dollars for my models, saves on the money. Don't tell the
> > Feds.)  Anyway, if there is anyone out there who would be interested,
> > send e-mail to parry@eskimo.com
> >
> All the models sound good, particularly the Money Talks, Rotating Tetra
> and puzzle models.  Is there any way you could scan in the crease
> patterns for the models, and then include text descriptions of how to
> fold them?
>
> The only money fold I know at the moment is the Star of David, but this
> might be the Throwing Star you mention.
>
> I'm really into money folds, but I don't know what the postal charges are
> like for sending stuff to Britain.
>
> I'd love to find new stuff, and your collection is the largest I've seen
> so far.
>
>

David,

It sounds like your Star of David may be different than my Throwing
Star.  My Throwing Star is only a four pointed star made by interlocking
two dollar bills. ( I learned of is while sitting next to a bored kid in
church.  We entertained each other with folding.)

Money Talks came from a design by Robert Neale that I found in book.  Its
like a puppet of a birds beak with a cute tounge inside.  This has been
real popular with children.

The puzzle is fun!  I get a lot of use out of it.  I sometimes call it an
intelligence test.  I have to give a warning each time for them to be
careful not to tear the bill.  For many its close to impossible for them
to unfold.  Its great when working with large denomination bills.  I had
one guy once look at it for about two minutes, then passed it on to his
wife to solve it.  It told me alot about the guy.  I knew then who wears
the pants in their family.  Time proved this true.

The gecko is also pretty cool, also made of two interlocked bills.  (I
don't know if you're familiar with geckos (I'm not either) but they're a
small lizard common to the walls of Hawaii.

Anyway, send me your snail address and I'll send you examples I make with
my home made play money.

Allen Parry





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:36:02 -0400
From: Gordon Crane <gordonc@mnsinc.com>
Subject: looking for hippopotamus

I am looking for instructions on making a hippopotamus.  Can anyone HELP?





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 20:32:31 -0400
From: jmarcoli@stratacom.com (John Marcolina)
Subject: Re: looking for hippopotamus

There's a great one in one of Montroll's books (African Animals in Origami
probably). It even has teeth!

John Marcolina
jmarcolina@strata.com





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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 21:35:50 -0400
From: Alan Light <alight@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Stuck folding Kawasaki rose

Jim.Hollister@SEMATECH.Org wrote:
>
>      Many thanks to everyone who sent me diagrams for the Kawasaki rose
>      described in "Origami for the Connoisseur". I've started working on
>      folding one and I've managed to negotiate my way past the twist fold.
>      I'm stuck at the following step, step #10 in the diagrams. This is
>      where the model changes from flat to "curvilinear". Can anyone give me
>      some advice?

If you have done all the pre-creasing properly up to this point, take each
of the existing mountain folds and give them a nice curl with your thumb
and forefinger (as indicated by the heavy curved arrows in the diagram).
The key is to make sure and allow the center hole to open (it will open more
     than
shown in the diagram). Don't worry too much about the valley folds shown in step
10, they sort of form automagically.

>
>      Also, how do I pull on 4 parts of a model at once with only 2 hands?

For this model you don't need to. Form each of the four petals individually.

P.S. When you get to step 13, replace the mountain fold with an inside reverse
fold. The model will lock together much better.

--
/-\ |_ /-\ |\|  Alan Light  alight@panix.com
(finger alight@panix.com for PGP public key)

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 21:41:24 -0400
From: jwu@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Wu)
Subject: Re: Some random thoughts...

At 10:04 AM 96.2.16, Casida Mark wrote:
>I would just like to point out that, when "folded" out of perfectly
>white paper, this model also makes an excellent model of a polar bear
>in a North Dakota snow storm.

Mark, when's the last time you saw a polar bear in North Dakota?

 Joseph Wu                      Webmaster of the Origami Page
<jwu@cs.ubc.ca> <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
  Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view.
  Explore the vessel. Make friends with the Captain. Fish a
  little. And then get off when you get Home.  --Max Lucado





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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 03:45:07 -0400
From: Namir Gharaibeh <U50879@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU>
Subject: searching archives

Hi.  I realize this is probably a pretty elemntary question, but
how does one go about searching the archives.  Like, what an
address of a searchable index?  I remember talk about such a thing
not too long ago, and I must've zoned out.
                                            Thanks in advance...

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| "Proud Advocates of Creative Mayhem" :           U50879@uicvm.uic.edu |
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 04:03:44 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Sarah's "rules"

> 1) fold neatly and accurately
> 2) fold on the table (unless told otherwise)
> 3) make good strong creases
> 4) copy off your neighbour (but dont do it in any other class!)

As well as whole-heartedly agreeing with those, I'd add a 5th to these "take
your time lining up *before* creasing"

Nick Robinson





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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 04:15:05 -0400
From: "If it doesn't say 'Eric' it's not the real thing!" <Eric_Andersen@brown.e
     du>
Subject: Re: searching archives

At 03:47 AM 2/17/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi.  I realize this is probably a pretty elemntary question, but
>how does one go about searching the archives.  Like, what an
>address of a searchable index?  I remember talk about such a thing
>not too long ago, and I must've zoned out.
>                                            Thanks in advance...

Hi.
You can search the origami-list archives from Alex Bateman's Origami Page,
located at:

http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/origami.html

There has also been talk of multiple keyword searches and somehow organizing
parts of the archive into general topics, but as far as I know these
projects haven't yet been completed.

-Eric  :-P

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        .            ___________|__|__|__|__|__|_ |  |===|==|  *  . /=\
__ *            .   /___________________________|-|  |===|==|       |=|
__|  .      .   .  //___________________________| :--------------------.
__|   /|\      _|_|//    ooooooooooooooooooooo  |-|                    |
__|  |/|\|__   ||l|/,----8::::::TONIGHT::::::8 -| | "Don't believe     |
__|._|/|\|||.l |[=|/,----8:::Eric:Andersen:::8 -|-|    a word I say."  |
__|[+|-|-||||li|[=|------8:origami@brown.edu:8 -| |   -Professor Suggs |
_-----.|/| //:\_[=|\`----8:::::::::::::::::::8 -|-|    (in Orgo class) |
 /|  /||//8/ :  8_|\`--- 8ooooooooooooooooooo8 -| |                    |
/=| //||/ |  .  | |\\__________  ____  _________|-|                    |
==|//||  /   .   \ \\__________ |X|  | _________| `---==----------==---'
==| ||  /         \ \__________ |X| \| _________|     ||          ||
==| |~ /     .     \
LS|/  /             \___________________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 13:31:16 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Polar bears in N. Dakota

<< who's seen a polar bear in a N. Dakota snowstorm..>>

Probably lots of folks have; they just didn't realize it!
:-)
With the kind of winter the USA mid-section and Nor'east
have been having, the Fort Churchill polar bears will probably
be begging for handouts on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial...

 --valerie





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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 15:46:30 -0400
From: "Laurie S. Reynolds" <bastian@nis.net>
Subject: R. Lang's Tree program?

Hello all,

I recall hearing/reading that R. Lang had written a program for
diagramming/modelling?

My queries are:

1.  What does the program do?
2.  How/where can I obtain a copy of it? - what computer configuration
do I need?
3.  Is source available?

thanks,

laurie s. reynolds
bastian@nis.net





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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 17:24:17 -0400
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.com
Subject: Origami-Math Article in Science News

fellow folders of paper,,,

awhile back someone mentioned the origami-math article
in an issue of science news

the article entitled
"crinkled doughnuts -- math in the folds of a polyhedral crown"
contains information regarding the work of mathematician william webber

included in the article is a diagram
for a toroidal polyhedron, i.e. "crinkled crown"
which is a pretty nice geometric origami model

if anyone is interested in a copy of this article
let me know via private email

perhaps we could do a diagram exchange

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-=-=-=-                     MAKE THINGS HAPPEN                          -=-=-=-
-=-=-=- jack thomas weres                        jtweres@psp.ih.att.com -=-=-=-





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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 19:16:26 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: polar bears

 All this talk of polar bears reminds me of an old math puzzle that goes
 like this:

 A hunter walks five miles south, then five miles west, then five miles
 north and ends up at the same place where he started.  He shot a bear.
 What color was the bear?

 One obvious answer is white, assuming he started at the north pole.  Ah
 but there many other places on the earth where he could start such a trek
 and they would not permit close encounters with polar bears... maybe some
 penguins...

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 20:49:36 -0400
From: cwalker@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us (Cindy Walker)
Subject: Re: Inventing your own designs

Mark notes about inventing your own designs:

>   I can't help but remark that all of this reminds me of modeling
>   in applied mathematics, physics, or chemistry.  You make a model
>   and try it out.  Often you make several models and try them out.
>   Then you refine the one which works the best.  Sometimes you have
>   to go back to the drawing board and start over.
>

I notice in Robert Lang's book that he's a physicist by day.  I'm a chemist.
Maybe there's hope for me yet.

I gather from everyone's posts that I should fold and fold and fold until I
thoroughly understand all the bases and techniques.  I don't now.  This must be
the key.  I think origami has a higher learning curve than other art forms.

Also - about step 54 of the cicada.  In my Lang book, step 54 of the cicada is
"turn the model over".  Robert--have you published a new book with an updated
cicada?  By the way, your book was the first origami book I ever bought.
Its what
brought me back into the fold. ;)

///////////////////////////////////////////////
/                                             /
/             Cindy Walker                    /
/      http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~cwalker    /
/       cwalker@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us         /





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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 22:01:44 -0400
From: Paul Slater <P.Slater@swansea.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: origami + science, a link?

WARNING, TIRED SCRIBBLINGS OF AN SCIENTIST> DELETE WHILE YOU'RE AHEAD.

Carol Walker wrote:
"I notice in Robert Lang's book that he's a physicist by day.  I'm a
chemist.
Maybe there's hope for me yet."

I have been folding since I was a kid, but also choose chemistry (mass
spectrometry) as a career, ( or hope to once the Ph.D. is finished),
rather than an arts degree.

Is this coincidence, or does origami attract scientists and likewise,
science attract origamists?. Or is it purely due to the fact that a
living cannot be made by folding paper alone...shame.

Sorry for the above nonsense, it's 2am and I've just finished an
exeriment which WORKED!!.

tatty bye for now,

Paul.

(yes I do include mathematics as a science!)





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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 22:17:22 -0400
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: Re: polar bears

At 07:17 PM 2/17/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
> All this talk of polar bears reminds me of an old math puzzle that goes
> like this:
>
> A hunter walks five miles south, then five miles west, then five miles
> north and ends up at the same place where he started.  He shot a bear.
> What color was the bear?
>

I've heard this one before, something about a hunter going out on his
doorstep, walking the aforementioned fifteen miles, and returning to his
doorstep. The questions are, where is his house and what color is the
bear...I think the answer goes something like this:

The hunter's door could be in two possible places. One is a foot or so from
the North Pole, facing north, such that his position in front of the door is
precisely upon the North Pole. Since that's a really strange place to build
a house and since bears do not roam within fifty miles of the pole, the bear
is either imaginary or imported, and there is no telling what color it is.
Maybe it is an origami bear, blown to the north pole from some folder's
house in Canada...

There is another possibility (actually a set of possibilities) on earth from
which one can go five miles south, five miles west, and five miles north and
end up where one started. Consider the parallel of latitude close enough to
the South Pole that its length is 5/n miles, for some integer n.

Take any point on that parallel of latitude and pick the point five miles
north of it. Situate the hunter's front porch there. The hunter goes five
miles south from his porch and is at a point we'll call A. He travels five
miles west, circling the South Pole n times, and is at A again, where he
shoots the origami bear. Five miles north from A he is back home. Since
bears are not indigenous to the Antarctic, again the bear must have been a
folded one...

-Eric  :-P

.             .     .     .     |--|--|--|--|--|--|  |===|==|   /    i
        .            ___________|__|__|__|__|__|_ |  |===|==|  *  . /=\
__ *            .   /___________________________|-|  |===|==|       |=|
__|  .      .   .  //___________________________| :--------------------.
__|   /|\      _|_|//    ooooooooooooooooooooo  |-|                    |
__|  |/|\|__   ||l|/,----8::::::TONIGHT::::::8 -| | "Don't believe     |
__|._|/|\|||.l |[=|/,----8:::Eric:Andersen:::8 -|-|    a word I say."  |
__|[+|-|-||||li|[=|------8:origami@brown.edu:8 -| |   -Professor Suggs |
_-----.|/| //:\_[=|\`----8:::::::::::::::::::8 -|-|    (in Orgo class) |
 /|  /||//8/ :  8_|\`--- 8ooooooooooooooooooo8 -| |                    |
/=| //||/ |  .  | |\\__________  ____  _________|-|                    |
==|//||  /   .   \ \\__________ |X|  | _________| `---==----------==---'
==| ||  /         \ \__________ |X| \| _________|     ||          ||
==| |~ /     .     \
LS|/  /             \___________________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 22:34:45 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: origami + science, a link?

<< ..an experiment that WORKED..>>

Congratulations, Paul! As a computer support person,
I like hear every once in while that **something**
actually works like its supposed to...
:-)

--valerie





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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 22:54:55 -0400
From: "prank(!!)" <prank@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Re: polar bears

On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Eric Andersen wrote:
> >
> > A hunter walks five miles south, then five miles west, then five miles
> > north and ends up at the same place where he started.  He shot a bear.
> > What color was the bear?

> The hunter's door could be in two possible places. One is a foot or so

        Actually, there are an infinite number of such places, even
excluding the infinite number or places on the one line of latitude
described in your solution.
        Pick any latitudinal line whose length (circumferential) is
defined by: (length is in miles)
               length = 5 / n,  where n = 1, 2, 3...
        Then pick any place 5 miles north of any point along any one of
these latitudinal lines.
        The solution given in the previous mail only takes into account
the solution for n = 1.  If n = 2, then the circumferential distance is
2.5 miles, so the person living 5 miles north of this line would walk 5
miles down to this line, walk around the earth (!!) two times, and walk
back home 5 miles.  It's true that many of the solutions start to
converge after a while in real life, but in real reality (I'd hate to
have to justify the existance of a term like _that_) there are an infinite
number of invalid solutions between them.
        But are these _all_ the solutions...?(!!)  =)

--Kevin





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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 00:58:24 -0400
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: Re: polar bears

I hate to quote myself, but...

At 10:56 PM 2/17/96 -0400, you wrote:
>> > A hunter walks five miles south, then five miles west, then five miles
>> > north and ends up at the same place where he started.  He shot a bear.
>> > What color was the bear?
>
>> The hunter's door could be in two possible places. One is a foot or so
>
>       Actually, there are an infinite number of such places, even
>excluding the infinite number or places on the one line of latitude
>described in your solution.
>       Pick any latitudinal line whose length (circumferential) is
>defined by: (length is in miles)
>             length = 5 / n,  where n = 1, 2, 3...
>       Then pick any place 5 miles north of any point along any one of
>these latitudinal lines.
>       The solution given in the previous mail only takes into account
>the solution for n = 1....

Actually, I said exactly what you are saying. This is what I said:
"Consider the parallel of latitude close enough to the South Pole that its
length is 5/n miles, for some integer n. "
"Take any point on that parallel of latitude and pick the point five miles
north of it...."

So I am considering all of the parallels of length 5/n, and all of the
points 5 miles north of every point on every parallel...AND I still insist
that bear was not real but folded!

>       But are these _all_ the solutions...?(!!)  =)

I am pretty sure that these are all of the solutions...

-Eric





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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 01:07:42 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re book buying habit

Speaking of book buying habit.....in addition to about 200 books, I am still
storing almost every OUSA newsletter since 1960, 64 FOLD zines, All of the
convention editions since the beginning, 115  1/2" video tapes (two on a
tape) from my shows...(I have done 230 1/2 hr. shows) 24  3/4" master tapes,
about 1/2 ton ( or darn near it seems to me of paper) and a bunch of other
stuff. Do I really need another book!!!!!!!!.  I just bought Fuse's quilt
book and her transformations book...I hope I live long enough to get to doing
a few of the models.......Dorigami





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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 01:13:31 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: R. Lang's Tree program?

Laurie Reynolds wrote:

> I recall hearing/reading that R. Lang had written a program for
> diagramming/modelling?

The program Treemaker is actually for designing origami models. For
diagramming, I'd recommend a commercial graphics program such as Macromedia
Freehand.

> My queries are:
>
> 1.  What does the program do?

You draw a stick figure (a tree graph) of the model you want and TreeMaker
calculates a crease pattern that folds into a base with the same number and
length flaps as your stick figure.

> 2.  How/where can I obtain a copy of it? - what computer configuration
> do I need?

It's at the ftp site in directory origami/programs. Download the file
Trmkr35.hqx, which is a binhexed version of a Macintosh self-extracting
archive containing the application and documentation; the latter is in
Microsoft Word 5 format. You need a Macintosh with a FPU, the faster the
better.

> 3.  Is source available?

No. But the theory is described in a paper that will be published in the
proceedings of the ACM Symposium on Computational Geometry later this Spring.

Have fun. There are several versions posted there; version 3.5 (the one named
above) has the most bells and whistles and I'm working on another upgrade
that probably won't be ready for a few months.

Robert J. Lang
rjlang@aol.com





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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 01:31:06 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Inventing your own designs

> I notice in Robert Lang's book that he's a physicist by day.  I'm a
chemist.
> Maybe there's hope for me yet.

Origami designers I greatly admire include a high school teacher, an
architect, a banker, an automotive engineer, a railroad accountant, and a
computer programmer, among others. There's no strong correlation between job
and design ability! (On the other hand, a disproportionate share of them seem
to be lefties...)

> In my Lang book, step 54 of the cicada is
> "turn the model over"...

Ah -- you must be referring to the one in Complete Book of Origami, which is
made from a 3:1 rectangle (boo, hiss). The one in Origami Insects, which was
the subject of the earlier comment, is folded from a square as God intended
;).

Robert





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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 01:32:42 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: polar bears

> [Much discussion of solutions close to the South Pole...]
> I am pretty sure that these are all of the solutions...

Actually, you're overlooking one salient fact: no bear (polar or otherwise)
lives in Antarctica!

> AND I still insist
> that bear was not real but folded!

Gee, if we have any NSFers at Amundsen-Scott station on the list they could
actually do this experiment...

Robert





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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 02:10:27 -0400
From: knuffke@sirius.com (Charles Knuffke)
Subject: Re: Inventing your own designs

>
>Also - about step 54 of the cicada.  In my Lang book, step 54 of the cicada is
>"turn the model over".  Robert--have you published a new book with an updated
>cicada?  By the way, your book was the first origami book I ever bought.
>Its what brought me back into the fold. ;)
>

I've got a funny story about this book - regarded by some as the most
difficult Origami creations ever...

Couple of weeks back a friend and I did some hiking at Mt. Diablo in
Northern California. After a while we came to the Ranger's Station/Museum
which had a small gift shop with cards and books. What I found hysterical
was that they had a single origami book for visitors to buy - Lang's
Origami Insects and their Kin!!!

Can you imagine how many unsuspecting people may have purchased this book
not realizing what they were in for? Imagine trying to make some of these
models as your first attempt to do origami - Ouch!!!

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Charles Knuffke               knuffke@sirius.com
153 Divisadero
San Francisco CA 94104
          "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"





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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 02:23:11 -0400
From: knuffke@sirius.com (Charles Knuffke)
Subject: Re: Origami Fantasy

>>
>>Someone on the list recntly asked whether Kasahara's new dinosaur
>>book is worth the fifty simoleans one has to invest in it.  My
>>answer is an emphatic yes!
>>
>
>I must agree, and I'd like to add that there have been detailed reviews that
>included a complete list of the models, that you'll find in the archives (I
>don't have the book with me so I can't list them all). Also, the book *is* in
>Japanese, but the diagrams are so outstanding that I found this no hindrance
>at all.
>

I just received my copy of the book from Sasuga bookstore (they sent it
Fed-X the day after I ordered it - yeah!) and it looks wonderful, although
I haven't tried any of the models yet. The only sad part is that the last 6
pages of the book look like it describes a mathmatical method for creating
bases with the proper number of appendages based on the models requirements
(the example shows a stag with horns). Unfortunately for me, it looks
interesting, but it's in Japanese and I can't read a thing!

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Charles Knuffke               knuffke@sirius.com
153 Divisadero
San Francisco CA 94104
          "Amen the Thunderbolt in the Dark Void"





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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 09:42:22 -0400
From: "Dorinha M.S.S. Vitti" <dmssvitt@carpa.ciagri.usp.br>
Subject: Re: looking for hippopotamus

I have an hippopotamus model, but I can,t tell you the name of the book
because it is a japanese one. If you want I can send you a copy. Send me
your address.Dorinha.

On Fri, 16 Feb 1996, Gordon Crane wrote:

> I am looking for instructions on making a hippopotamus.  Can anyone HELP?





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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 10:19:36 -0400
From: reeds@openix.com (Reeds Family)
Subject: origami workshop leader wanted, Morristown NJ

I recently ran a family origami workshop at my little local library in New
Providence NJ (drew about 30 people, all ages, on a cold night between
snowstorms). As a result of the publicity, I got a call from Laura Wilson,
Activities Director, Morris Hill Nursing Home, Morristown NJ 201--540-9800
asking if I could give  a workshop there. Because I work during the day, I
can't do it, but I promised I'd post a message to see if any other NJ
folders would volunteer. Please call her directly if you're interested (I'd
appreciate an email message just ot know whether this posting got any
results.)

Karen
Karen Reeds
Science/Medicine Editor
Rutgers University Press
Bldg 4161, Livingston Campus
PO Box 5062
New Brunswick NJ 08903-5062
908--445-7762x602
Fax 908--445-7039
reeds@openix.com (for origami)





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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 13:21:54 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Inventing your own designs

Robert Lang remarked,

> Origami designers I greatly admire include a high school teacher, an
> architect, a banker, an automotive engineer, a railroad accountant, and a
> computer programmer, among others. There's no strong correlation between job
> and design ability! (On the other hand, a disproportionate share of them seem
> to be lefties...)

My comment about a correlation between creativity in origami and creativity
in math, physics, and chemistry was of course just a personal impression.
I could have equally well made a parallel between creativity in origami and
graphic design (any graphic designers on the list?)  My understanding is
that the process of making a graphic design for an ad (or whatever) often
involves a brainstorming session, followed by sessions involving selection
and refinement --- probably a lot like modeling in math, physics, and
chemistry (and don't forget engineering!)  In fact, since my Dad's a
scientist and my Mom's an artist, I remember many many discussions of
how similar the creative process can be across professions.  What about
creativity in cooking?  Can't you almost smell the parallels with creativity
in origami?  (It helps to fold in the kitchen ;-)

As to the comment about lefties (should I comment on it?), I suppose many
people believe that left handedness correlates with creativity.  Robert, do
you think left handedness would show up in how origami is diagrammed?
(At least we can avoid the scissors problem ...)

                                   ... Mark

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