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Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 17:23:18 -0400
From: Rene Besamusca <renebe@knoware.NL>
Subject: Re: Missing UUE's

At 13:50 3-02-96 -0400, Nick Robinson wrote:

>Hi all, just a quick apology for the odd cacked-up reply (ie. quote =
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>
>What would be nice is mail software that allowed you to send a=20
>pre-written reply to a message at the click of a button, without hav=
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>to reply, insert file etc.
>
>Ah well.....

Ah well, y're familiar with the phrase (or something to that extend)
"whenever desperate help is running in" ;-))

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especially the Beyondmail Personal edition.

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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:52:26 -0400
From: mrh_dmz@bart.nl (M.R. Hoare)
Subject: Re: Origami Computer Fonts Wanted

>Alternatively can anyone tell me of any easy to use software for the PC which
>could  take a scanned bitmap image of some origami letters and create a
>truetype font for windows. Is anyone interested enough to have a go at this
>exercise? I can supply artwork for 3 different origami alphabets.
>

There is an option in Corel Draw (certainly version 3 and presumably higher,
maybe lower versions too) that lets you turn graphics into TrueType fonts.
It is one of the export filters and also apparently supports Adobe Type 1
format. I believe there are some restrictions and you first have to have the
stuff in a way Corel will accept it. And of course you need Corel too.
Cannot speak from experience but one of my friends did it recently with
logos. If you want more information and have access to Corel, email me
directly and I will ask him. Corel Trace has a trace option for turning
bitmaps into vectors which can then be used for this kind of thing. I have
used it for eps signatures. It worked but I needed to do quite a lot of
manual editing afterward.

MaryRose Hoare
mrh_dmz@bart.nl





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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 09:17:05 -0400
From: agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
Subject: Archive search

Hello Folks,
            I have implemented a keyword search of the origami-l
archives on my web page

http://alf2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:1500/origami.html

The archive I use runs up till mid 1995, I will update this soon!

Bye for now
Alex Bateman





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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 10:51:21 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Chris Palmer models online!

>  I plan to put thumbnails for each picture so you can see a
> small version of each picture before you download the large image.

Good job too - I tried the "flasher" pic, but it was 256k!! Surely they can
be reduced in size without any real loss?? Until the thumbs arrive,
howsabout putting the file-size in the text?

KUTGW!

Nick Robinson





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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 11:14:48 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Corel fonts

> There is an option in Corel Draw (certainly version 3 and presumably
> that lets you turn graphics into TrueType fonts.

I loaded Corel 4 - 1 hours 30 mins installation from floppy ;(  & had a look
at it, but the online help wasn't sufficient for me to manage it - perhaps
with a full manual it could be easier, but I gave up...

Nick Robinson





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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 12:21:56 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Location of Andreas Rose

<<..or does it look nothing like a rose?>>

Well, it rather depends on your definition of "like".

Certainly its not a realistic rose like the Kawasaki models.
Its more geometrically suggestive of a rose/flower, sort of
like plain old fashioned wild roses (though even Kawasaki's
don't have the five petal structure of the "real" rose family.

But Andreas Rose is as much a "rose" as a compass rose.
:-)

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com

: ..as rose is a rose is a Kawasaki rose :





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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 13:46:39 -0400
From: PamGotcher@aol.com
Subject: Draft Choice (was Origami Fonts)

Hi, I've been away at training, so I'm a bit late on this....
Tried this morning to do the BBS at Trius as suggested by Bob Nienhuis
(thanks, Bob!) and discovered they have a webpage which you can download
directly from.  Files are downloaded in ZIP format.
address is::
http://members.aol.com/triusinc/

Go for it!
Pam
PamGotcher@aol.com





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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 20:16:57 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: "dead" folds

>      Don't most of our less-than-successful attempts come out looking
>      rather like dead animals?...

And if you're folding dino-skeletons a la Yoshino and Kawahata, even your
successful attempts will come out looking like a dead animal.

Robert





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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 21:28:45 -0400
From: LapinPub@aol.com
Subject: Re: Location of Andreas Rose

Yeah, you caught me, the secret has been revealed...it doesn't look like a
rose.  But somehow, as a title, "Andrea's Artichoke" didn't sound nearly as
romantic to me when I was naming it!

Happy Folding!

J.C. Nolan (LapinPub@aol.com)





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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 23:11:58 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Paper!!!2

Am asking.  How did the Fuse boxes turn out from the paper from the
printer....What kind of paper were you talking about about -- Sparkles?
dorigami





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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 02:47:49 -0400
From: "Eric, accept no imitations!" <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: Chris Palmer models online!

At 10:52 AM 2/4/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>  I plan to put thumbnails for each picture so you can see a
>> small version of each picture before you download the large image.
>
>Good job too - I tried the "flasher" pic, but it was 256k!! Surely they can
>be reduced in size without any real loss?? Until the thumbs arrive,
>howsabout putting the file-size in the text?
>
Sorry about that...I just did both...the file sizes are now in the text and
most are now shrunk down to below 60K. Hope this helps! Any other
comments/suggestions would be appreciated!

-Eric

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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:33:03 -0400
From: Ninety Six Elementary <frick@emeraldis.com>

Trying this out for the first time.  Email is Great!  Now I won't be an
origami loner in my small corner of the world anymore.  Starting a group in
SC.  Any suggestions for easy models that are of interest for adults?
Marsha DuPre





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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 19:28:52 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: age hiding

John...I have a friend who comes from Transylvania too.  Her name is Judy
Wolt (married name) and she has red hair.....she is a local librarian.  I
think she was in Israel during the second WW.





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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:48:57 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Location of Andreas Rose

By the way, my comments on Andreas Rose weren't
intended as negative: I love geometry, and to
me the "geometric" suggestion of a rose is just
fine; I even think compass roses are pretty. But
it did sound like the original post person was
expecting something a bit more naturalistic.

Artichokes are related to roses, aren't they?
And the Kawasaki cousin, after all, isn't a
strict representation of a pinecone, either?

--valerie





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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 01:02:44 -0400
From: jwu@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Wu)
Subject: Re: Origami Computer Fonts Wanted

>There is an option in Corel Draw (certainly version 3 and presumably higher,
>maybe lower versions too) that lets you turn graphics into TrueType fonts.
>It is one of the export filters and also apparently supports Adobe Type 1
>format. I believe there are some restrictions and you first have to have the
>stuff in a way Corel will accept it. And of course you need Corel too.
>Cannot speak from experience but one of my friends did it recently with
>logos. If you want more information and have access to Corel, email me
>directly and I will ask him. Corel Trace has a trace option for turning
>bitmaps into vectors which can then be used for this kind of thing. I have
>used it for eps signatures. It worked but I needed to do quite a lot of
>manual editing afterward.

Yes, CorelDRAW! can do this. However, since it is not primarily a font
creating program, it is a pain to use. Each letter must be drawn separately
and then exported through 2 different filters to add it to a font file.
Also, kerning information cannot be added. Of course, real font creating
software costs a mint...

 Joseph Wu                      Webmaster of the Origami Page
<jwu@cs.ubc.ca> <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
  Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view.
  Explore the vessel. Make friends with the Captain. Fish a
  little. And then get off when you get Home.  --Max Lucado





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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 01:33:34 -0400
From: Brett <BrettAndJill@OIA.Net>
Subject: Demon

Hey,

Eric Andersen has a pic of a demon on his home page.  The diagrams are
in Viva Origami (which I believe is out of print) is there anywhere else
that I can get a copy of the diagrams for this way cool model ?

Thanks,

Brett
BrettAndJill@OIA.Net





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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 01:43:50 -0400
From: barber@nol.net (Alex Barber)
Subject: Hi

Just mailing to see how you were doing.  I haven't seen much of you on the
list since you bowed out of that committee.  I would really love to see you
at this year's con - it's some months away and I'm already looking forward
to it.  I have so many commitments it's hard to get away from this town for
west and wewaxation.

On a different note, I have had a new service provider for a few months now
and have found out that I can execute scripts that are in my personal
account folder - this means I can use imagemaps and counters.  I now have
counters going on my pages, one for the initial page and one for each
section.  Take a look and let me know what you think.  They're somewhat
cliched by now, but I think they're fun and give some feedback to the
visitor.  I'm just happy since I realized that I can run these scripts.  At
my previous service provider there was no easy way to get this sort of
thing going.

Take a look at the Contact Other Folders section at my page - please go
ahead and add yourself to my list.

Be seeing you
Alex

barber@nol.net | http://www.nol.net/~barber
                 http://www.printnet.com/abarber/barber.html

I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
numbered.  My life is my own.





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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 04:49:21 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: "dead" folds

> And if you're folding dino-skeletons a la Yoshino and Kawahata, even your
> successful attempts will come out looking like a dead animal.

In my case, a *very* dead one ;(

Nick Robinson





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Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 08:17:33 -0400
From: Penny Groom <penny@sector.demon.co.UK>
Subject: Dansk Origami Society #2

I didn't have any luck with my previous message asking if anyone knew
the location of the D O C. Is there anyone out there in Denmark who
could find out for me please, or could give me the address of anyone who
can? Thanks

------------------------------------------
Penny Groom                :(  Membership Secretary
                           :)  British Origami Society
penny@sector.demon.co.uk

Deputy Box Office Manager,Leicester Haymarket Theatre
e-mail for our spring season productions
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/htl





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Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 09:50:38 -0400
From: "Paul J. Adams" <adam4463@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>
Subject: test, and a newbie question

Hello.  I am new to this list (as of five minutes ago) and am doing a
test-post, along with a question for all you origami gurus out there.

Please tell me your favorite book (either from an instructional point of
view, or from a variety/models/etc. point of view).

Also, could anyone recommend a good supplier for paper and what
types/brands/etc. for which I should look?

My most sincere thanks to you all,
Paul





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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 11:00:48 -0400
From: Triesha@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hi

In a message dated 96-02-06 00:45:33 EST, you write:

>I would really love to see you
>at this year's con - it's some months away and I'm already looking forward
>to it.

morning!

as a newbie to the list...can anyone point me in the direction of getting
some info on this convention?  thanks!

happy folding,

tree





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Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 11:08:22 -0400
From: JRMetzger@aol.COM
Subject: Re: easy models that are of interest for adults

In a message dated 96-02-06 00:35:58 EST, you write:

>SC.  Any suggestions for easy models that are of interest for adults?
>Marsha DuPre

I'd recommend the "Magic Star"  in Gay Merrill Gross' "Origami Workshop"
(formerly "Art of Origami"). It's really easy, and adults love it! I gave
them out as holiday "cards" this year at work, and couldn't believe the
response I got. Have fun!

Yaacov





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Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 11:09:01 -0400
From: JRMetzger@aol.COM
Subject: Origami related children's story books

I found this on America Online's Origami board (it's pretty tough to find -
start from
Clubs & Interests -> Hobby Central -> Arts & Crafts -> Crafts & Sewing ->
Paper Crafts Board -> Origami folder)
Thought it might be of interest.
 Yaacov

     Welcome to the fold!  Here is a list of children's books that I have
with origami in them.

1. Perfect Crane by Anne Laurin
    ISBN 0-06-443154-1 It is about a lonely magician in Japan who discovers
that he can breathe life into an origami bird ( a crane)

2. Curious Geaorge rides a bike by HA Rey
ISBN 0-395-17444-9
George takes on a paper route and instead of delivering them he folds them
inot origami boats.

3.  Sadako and the Thousnd Paper Cranes by Eleanor Coerr  ISBN 0-440-47465-5
One of many books that have been written about a young girl in Japan after
WW2 who is dying of lukemia as a result of the bomb.  She decides to fold
1,000 cranes and dies before she completes her second thousand.  Her friends
continue folding for her.  Today children send cranes to her grave where a
peace memorial has been established in Japan.

4.  The Paper Crane by Molly Bang
ISBN 0-688-04108-6
A man appears at a resturant and pays for his meal with a strange and
wonderful paper bird that comes to life.

I hope these are helpful!
Basyrett





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Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 11:10:04 -0400
From: JRMetzger@aol.COM
Subject: Stripped off EMail Addresses/Digest Format

Regarding the recent thread about messages missing EMail addresses:

I would suggest getting this list's mail in DIGEST format. This way I get all
the mail in just 1 file once a day, and can read it all at once. Also, the
sender's email address is included in each message's header. (There is also a
"table of contents" at the start listing subjects and senders). My impression
from the thread was that many people are not getting the list in the format,
I think it's invaluable. Here are the instructions as taken from Joseph Wu's
home page (Marten, perhaps you could include this in your twice-monthly
reminder?)

Yaacov

The question had been raised as to what the "digest" version of this
    mailing is all about. The list server for this newsletter takes all
    our communications to it, removes all the front addresses, leaving only
    the sender's name and subject. It then takes all the letters and sends
    them out as a group. Since I did this, my internet time to receive this
    mailing has been cut by 50%.

    How do you do it? Send mail to:

    listserver@nstn.ns.ca

    Do not list any subject...leave the line blank.
    In the normal body of the letter enter:

    set origami-l mail digest

    The next mailing that is made will be in this form.





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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 11:26:31 -0400
From: LapinPub@aol.com
Subject: Re: Proper genera classification "Andrea's Rose"

No offense taken I assure you..."art" is in the eye of the beholder, and you
bring up a good point with respect to Kawasaki's pinecone, virtually
identical to "The Rose" but discovered independently.  He saw a pinecone I
saw a rose, and as far as I'm concerned anyone should feel free to see what
ever they like in it!  As for artichokes, I was just out in Castroville, CA,
artichoke capitol of the world, and that's the first thing that came to mind
when it was suggested that "The Rose" was not a rose. (A horse is a horse, of
course, of course...)  Incidentally, the Artichoke is actually a huge thistle
with lots of artichoke "flowers" on it.  It stands about 4 feet tall and
looks like something out of a bad science fiction movie!

J.C. Nolan (LapinPub@aol.com)





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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 11:48:07 -0400
From: Mary Ellen Verona <mverona@goober.mbhs.edu>
Subject: Re: easy models that are of interest for adults

JRMetzger@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 96-02-06 00:35:58 EST, you write:
>
> >SC.  Any suggestions for easy models that are of interest for adults?
> >Marsha DuPre

I second the "Magic Star".  For some reason it is very intriguing.
I also love the flexagon model in the same book (forget the name).
>
> I'd recommend the "Magic Star"  in Gay Merrill Gross' "Origami Workshop"
> (formerly "Art of Origami"). It's really easy, and adults love it! I gave
> them out as holiday "cards" this year at work, and couldn't believe the
> response I got. Have fun!
>
> Yaacov

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650-6692
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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 14:58:23 -0400
From: Oded Streigold <benjic@netvision.net.il>
Subject: Kawasaki rose mystery

 Hello origamigos...

 Some time ego someone posted a massage saying that the Kawasaki rose
 from 'origami for the connoisseur' was actually not made by Toshikazu
 Kawasaki, and that when Kawasaki saw it, he didn't know who created it.
 The original Kawasaki rose is supposed to be much more complex.
 Can someone solve the mystery?
 - Is this true?
 - If it is, who created the rose from the connoisseur?
 - And where does the rose made by Kawasaki apear?

 Thank you!
 Oded Streigold  ( benjic@netvision.net.il )





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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 16:32:59 -0400
From: Ninety Six Elementary <frick@emeraldis.com>
Subject: roses

Speaking of roses.  Does anyone know if there are published diagrams of the
new Kawasaki rose?  I learned it at the OUSA convention two years ago and am
having trouble figuring it out from my poor crumpled model.
Marsha DuPre





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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 17:50:39 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: test, and a newbie question

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> Please tell me your favorite book (either from an instructional point
of
> view, or from a variety/models/etc. point of view).
>
> Also, could anyone recommend a good supplier for paper and what
> types/brands/etc. for which I should look?

Well, its hard to answer the part about favorite books, because I like
so many!  But I can recommend a couple of good resources.  The supplies
certer for Origami USA has a large selection of books and paper,
available by mail order - you can write for a copy of their supplies
list.  Fascinating folds is another mail order operation - they have a
web site you can check.

Origami Source (OUSA Supply center)
c/o Phyllis Meth
40-05 166th St.
Flushing, NY 11358

Fascinating Folds
P. O. Box 2820-235
Torrance, CA  90509-2820
(tel) 310/378-0076
(fax)  310/378-0647
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper

If you let use know where you are from, maybe someone in your area can
recommend a retail location.  Large craft stores (like A.C Moore) and
bookstores (like Borders) also carry origami books or paper.  The Zany-
Brainy chain has books and paper.

Janet Hamilton





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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 19:50:23 -0400
From: "Jeffrey M. Goff" <jgoff@esu6.esu6.k12.ne.us>
Subject: Re: test, and a newbie question

Another source [at least in the Midwest - I don't know about stores on
the east or west coast] is Dick Blick. The one in Lincoln - haven't been
to the one here in Omaha - has a wide variety of papers. I've picked up
everything from patterned rice paper to the heavy paper they use for
marbeled book covers. Decent prices, too. The most expensive sheet of
paper I picked up was a 24x36 sheet of marbeled paper for $3.95.

No washi, though.

On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, MRS. JANET J HAMILTON wrote:

> -- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
>
> > Please tell me your favorite book (either from an instructional point
> of
> > view, or from a variety/models/etc. point of view).
> >
> > Also, could anyone recommend a good supplier for paper and what
> > types/brands/etc. for which I should look?





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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 21:42:51 -0400
From: "The world on my page of victories is but a comma." <Eric_Andersen@brown.e
     du>
Subject: Re: start stories (me too)1

>I have you Dorothy, to thank for getting me started with origami.  You gave
>an origami class at the Border's bookstore in Princeton, NJ. I had a great
>time and have even managed to do a few models from the books :-)   Now I just
>have to start memorizing things so I can teach others.
>
>Thanks
>Paul Leclerc

They give origami classes there? I live in West Windsor (that is, when I'm
not here at Brown University), just down the street...

-Eric

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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 04:09:38 -0400
From: Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk (Nick Robinson)
Subject: Roses & Andrea's Mushrooms

> And the Kawasaki cousin, after all, isn't a
> strict representation of a pinecone, either?

Who cares about "strict" representation? (aside from a large number of
American & Japanese folders that is!) Many folders want the essence of a
subject rather than all its warts. (Preferably essence *and* warts) More
than 3/4 of all the ori mushrooms I've seen have been flat (2D), although to
contradict myself, my effort is fully 3D.

Errrrr.

Nick Robinson (after a bottle of wine ;)





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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 09:33:32 -0400
From: The Blue Dragon <loki@io.org>
Subject: Toronto Paper Sources

Hello, everyone,

I'm a better-than-beginner/worse-than-anything-better folder who has been
folding various figures for a few years... but never at any great rate...
One or two pieces a year...

My problem though is that I've run out of a few colours now, in the
package of paper that I was gifted with some years ago...

So a question that has both a general and specific answer...

How do I find good paper/origami book stores in my city (Toronto)

I recall someone saying that there was a very good store around here...
and I even remember half of the address.... 900 (or very close)

Unfortunately, I've noticed that a street number isn't much use without
a street.

Thank you.

:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:_:
              Clench fist, and dreams will be crushed to lifeless gray...
..open hand, and the wind may carry them far away.
                                 loki@io.org
In a whisper on the wind, in the smile of a new friend, just think of me





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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 11:17:44 -0400
From: Maumoy@aol.com
Subject: Cyber Fair

I'm forwarding this message becuz I thought it was of general interest.  I
don't think there's an origami component to the fair (yet)!

There was some coverage of the 24 hours in cyberspace planned for Feb 8 on
CNN but I don't remember hearing anything about the fair.

Marcia Mau
Maumoy@aol.com
---------------------
Forwarded message:
From:   aloha@cpcug.org
Date: 96-02-05 20:39:36 EST

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 16:05:00 -0500
From: Gabe Goldberg <gabe@CPCUG.ORG>
Subject: Interesting article (fwd)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:34:22 -0500
From: Rana Jaffan <rjaffan@ntmail.morino.org>

By WENDY KOCH
c.1996 Hearst Newspapers

WASHINGTON - Now, for the first time, people around the globe can attend a
world's fair - without leaving home.

They can view samples of food sold at the Aw Taw Kah, the huge outdoor
market in Bangkok, Thailand; witness India's Durga Pucha, a religious
festival in Calcutta; visit the Tokyo Aquarium; or perhaps listen to
Tibet's Dalai Lama.

The secret? The Internet 1996 World Exposition, which marks its grand
opening Thursday.

A lavish fete rings in the historic day. In a program known as ``24 Hours
in Cyberspace,'' a team of 50 reporters and photographers will document
events worldwide on Feb. 8. It will post the material, via mission control
in San Francisco, on the Internet.

To see the dispatches, or any of the expo's hundreds of other features,
computer users need to dial into the Internet with this address:
http://park.org

The organizers have added super computers and super-fast fiber optic
connections, based in several countries, that have tripled the Internet's
global capacity.

This hasn't come cheap, but it's free for the public. Dozens of high-tech
companies - mostly in the United States and Japan - have donated a total
of $100 million, in goods and services, to build the expo.

Among the U.S. contributors are Bay Networks, IBM, MCI, MFS
Communications, NBC, Quantum Corporation, SSDS, Sun Microsystems and UUNET
Communication Services.

``The immediate payback for them is PR,'' said Carl Malamud, the expo's
creator and secretary general. In the long term, he added, they'll likely
gain millions of new Internet users.

Since the expo first tested the waters on Jan. 1, at least 10,000 people
have logged on every day. So far, the users represent more than 50
countries.

The fair is especially popular in Asia. China, India, Indonesia Korea,
Singapore, Taiwan and Thailand each have participated by opening their own
cyber pavillons.

But Japan, where Internet usage is starting to explode, has shown the most
interest - for good reason. The expo has boosted Japan's direct access to
the Internet. For the first time, Japanese users can communicate with
Koreans and others, without going through a U.S. circuit.

What makes this possible is the expo's shining accomplishment: the
Internet Railroad, a new $50 million backbone for the global computer
network.

The railroad is a fiber-optic line, circling nearly the entire globe, that
shuttles information at lightning speed - 45 million bits (about 30 floppy
disks) per second - from country to country.

``The Internet railroad will be known as the Eiffel Tower of this world's
fair - a permanent legacy that people around the world can enjoy,'' says
Vinton Cerf, an original designer of Internet protocols and a senior vice
president at MCI Telecommunications, which donated most of the ``tracks.''

The other key element of the expo is Central Park, a network of new super
computers that contains more than a terabyte of disk space - the
equivalent of one million floppy disks. Quantum Corporation, of Milpitas,
Calif., was the primary contributor.

Yet for all its big-bucks hardware, the expo does not qualify as an
official world's fair. To do so, it would need to be certified by the
Bureau of International Expositions.

``The first question they ask is where is your fair?'' says Malamud.
Cyberspace doesn't exactly qualify. The next official world's fair will be
Expo 2000 in Hanover, Germany.

The Internet expo, though, is not entirely virtual. It links itself to
physical events. It will broadcast the Kennedy Center's 25th anniversary
celebrations in April, Peter Gabriel's concert tour this summer, the
Lincoln Center's interactive ``Brain Opera'' in July and the U.S.
presidential debates in October.

Malamud, the 36-year-old driving force behind the expo, says he became
convinced the time was right for an Internet world's fair. He says the
network, despite its increasingly wide usage in the United States, is
still quite new in most parts of the world.

Historially, he explains, global expos have served as the venue for
promoting new technology.

``Electricity, the telephone, ice cream cones, postcards - even hamburgers
- were all introduced at world's fairs,'' says Malamud, who heads the
not-for-profit Internet Multicasting Service.

To make his vision a reality, Malamud has circled the globe, soliciting
support from engineers, businessmen and officials. President Bill Clinton
and Russian President Boris Yeltsin have both sent endorsements.

Malamud says he wants to get people excited about the network. He also
wants to spur engineers to build better hardware and encourage greater
funding for its infrastructure.

His own enthusiasm for the Internet began by accident. An economist by
training who holds an M.B.A. from Indiana University, he never took a
class in computers. But he got so frustrated with the software available
for economic modeling that he began tinkering.

Malamud, a workaholic who talks rapid fire, wrote a book in 1992
``Exploring the Internet: A Technical Travelogue,'' about the then-little
known elite that built the network.

The next year, he began producing - via the Internet - weekly interviews
with computer experts. The program, known as ``Geek of the Week,'' was a
hit.

Malamud's latest venture, the Internet 1996 World Exposition, is his most
ambitious yet. But ironically, he cannot attend it without going to his
office. At home, he has only books and music - no computer.





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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 11:46:03 -0400
From: rmoes@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (Rob Moes)
Subject: Re: easy models that are of interest for adults

Hi all,

Personally I really like the models in the book "Origami Made Easy" by
Kunihiko Kasahara  (ISBN: 0-870-40253-6).  The diagrams are very
straightforward, and there's a nice sophistication and detail to these
models that you don't typically see with other "easy" models--several done
in two-pieces, which I think adults will find perfectly acceptable--as in
praying mantis, shark, and astronaut.  They look much harder than they
really are!  Some of my other favorites include:  swan, penguins I & II,
tulip, and rabbit.

--Rob Moes





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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 12:03:43 -0400
From: "NIGEL POTTLE, TEACHER-LIBRARIAN, WOODLANDS ELEM. SCHOOL"@Owl.nstn.CA
Subject: Toronto origami supplier

I am not an expert on Toronto, having only visited there once two summers
ago. However they do have a great store called The Japanese Paper Place.
I do not know the address, but its in the phone book. There are actually
two - one on Queen Street, one in Queen's Quay. Don't be like me though.
When I checked the address in the phone book, I mixed up the two addresses
then dragged two friends for a long walk along Queen's Quay, until we met
the lake and ran out of numbers.

The store on Queen Street is the bigger of the two. The one in Queen's Quay
is small.

Nigel Pottle
Npottle@cbe.ab.ca





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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 12:23:10 -0400
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Re: Toronto Paper Sources

Hi,

> How do I find good paper/origami book stores in my city (Toronto)

In case some of you don't know about this, I have a page dedicated to
listing the stores that carry origami supplies and or books.  There is
one that I have listed for Toronto and it is the Japanese Paper Place,
here is the detail:

The Japanese Paper Place
887 Queen Street West
Vancouver, British Columbia V6H 3S2
(416) 703-0089
Fax: (416) 703-0163
They will do mail order as well.

Have fun!
Yusri

----
When the folds get tough, the tough gets folded.





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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 12:30:00 -0400
From: Gretchen Klotz <gren@agora.rdrop.COM>
Subject: Brochure Folds?

Greetings -

Dee Lynch has sparked my thinking about using something a little more
creative than your standard tri-fold for the two brochures I'm developing
(one on my business, Paper Boxes, and the other on Origami Resources in
the PNW).  I know there are lots of letter folds out there -- and that
there will be a special exhibition of them at this year's OUSA convention.
What I'm particularly looking for is something simple and clever --
without too many folds!  I'll be using 8.5x11" paper, and can have it cut
into a square if needed.  (My partner and I came up with some great
possibilities with a standard preliminary base last night.)

Any other suggestions?  Please send complete citations, or I'll send you
my snail address and you can send me a sample.  TIA!

- Gretchen

--
gren@agora.rdrop.com         http://admin.ogi.edu/~gren/





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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 13:11:51 -0400
From: "Weinstein, Michael" <michaelw@bdg10.niddk.nih.gov>
Subject: letterfold exhibition?

A message on the list mentioned a special letterfold exhibition at the
OUSA convention.  O.K., so what's the skinny on this, who heard about it from
where, and who's organizing it?  Enquiring minds want to know.

Michael Weinstein
MichaelW@bdg10.NIDDK.NIH.gov





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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 14:02:01 -0400
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Re: letterfold exhibition?

The letterfold exhibition is, as have been said before, going to be part
of the convention.  It was mentioned in "THE PAPER", aka OUSA
Newsletter.  I believe it is organized by Gay Merrill Gross and V'Ann
Cornelius.

--
Yusri Johan (gs01yyj@panther.gsu.edu)
http://www2.gsu.edu/~gs01yyj/origami/origami.html





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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 15:10:44 -0400
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Re: Toronto Paper Sources

Hi all,
Gotta make some correction here.  It is a good thing that someone pointed
out to me (you know who you are and thanks) that I made a mistake in the
posting when I type it in:

>
> The Japanese Paper Place
> 887 Queen Street West
> Vancouver, British Columbia V6H 3S2  <----- This is where the mistake is

It should be:

Toronto, Ontario M6J IG5

Sorry about that mistake.  Now,we can go back to the regularly scheduled
program.

Yusri





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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 18:28:22 -0400
From: "prank(!!)" <prank@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Re: Roses & Andrea's Mushrooms

On Wed, 7 Feb 1996, Nick Robinson wrote:

> > And the Kawasaki cousin, after all, isn't a
> > strict representation of a pinecone, either?
>
> Who cares about "strict" representation? (aside from a large number of
> American & Japanese folders that is!) Many folders want the essence of a
> subject rather than all its warts. (Preferably essence *and* warts)

Remember,
        If it's too explicit, it's pornography...

        Kasahara and others make an excellent point when they say:
(well, not actually this, but something to the effect) You can make a
specific bird, but the people you show it to may not see it as what you
intended (they may not even see it as a bird, but don't let _my_
experiences get you down =).  In that case, you should have captured the
essence of the specific bird enough that you can point out why the bird
you made is the specific bird you intended.
        Kasahara's "My Favorite Fox" (one of mine as well) is a great
example of a simple model that is very rarely (in my experience) taken
for something else (although I have had someone ask me if it was a
mouse...).
        Sometimes your model can look completely unlike your subject, but
all your audience needs is a little convincing (sometimes forcefull, but
don't let _my_ experiences get you down... =)

--Kevin





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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 19:16:09 -0400
From: "Londono, Juancarlos (3421)" <J.LONDONO@CGNET.COM>
Subject: NEW ORIGAMI HOMEPAGE (In Spanish)

Hi

Visit my origami homepage (in spanish) in the following site

http://www.ciat.cgiar.org/~jclondono

or

http://198.93.225.167/~jclondono          ....>>>>> (best)

and the Joseph Wu's page too (of course)

**********************
WARNING
This page is still under constructions. Suggestions are welcome.
**********************
Thanks

Juancarlos





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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 19:40:41 -0400
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Roses & Andrea's Mushrooms

In message <Pine.SUN.3.91.960207135840.15685C-100000@elaine32.Stanford.EDU>,
    Kevin wrote:
+       Kasahara's "My Favorite Fox" (one of mine as well) is a great
+example of a simple model that is very rarely (in my experience) taken
+for something else (although I have had someone ask me if it was a
+mouse...).

You are right.  And MFF is also one of my favorite models.

+       Sometimes your model can look completely unlike your subject, but
+all your audience needs is a little convincing (sometimes forcefull, but
+don't let _my_ experiences get you down... =)

You raise several tightly related points here.  MFF doesn't really look like
a fox.  It looks like what we think a fox looks like.

People don't really see what things look like.  This can be shown if you ask
an untrained person to draw a human face, as they almost never place the
eyes at the vertical middle in the head.  This can also be seen in amateur
photographs, and something I am learning first hand with close up
photography (of origami models of course!), that what you see when you are
composing the picture is not what you see in the final photograph!  ;-)

That is why MFF is so fox like even though it is "inaccurate" in shape and
proportion.

As for convincing the audience, perhaps you can do more to set expectations in
how your display or present your model?  Paper choice, color, texture, can
make a huge difference in how the model is perceived, as can the setting (if
in a diaorama), and background.

-Doug "I just keep rambling along" Philips





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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 20:18:36 -0400
From: Paul Slater <P.Slater@swansea.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Brochure Folds?

Hi all,

I am not sure, but I think I can remember a MAP FOLD in Eric
Kenneway's encyclopedia of origami, "complete origami"? I can't
remember the correct title right now, and reaching the book would
involve negotiating LOTS of snow...

However, the fold is very entertaining, and might be fun for a
brochure on paper boxes!!!

Paul.





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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 20:34:48 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Roses & Andrea's Mushrooms

>>Who cares about "strict" representation?>>

Nick, I don't know if you read the message I was responding to,
but apparently the authod DID care about stricter representation,
and/or was expecting something more like a "real" rose, was
confused by the result of folding "Andreas Rose" and wanted to
know if perhaps they had gone astray in following the directions.

My reply was to reassure them that 1) Andreas Rose is a "geometric
suggestion" of a rose, 2) it depends on your definition of
representation (Kawasaki doesn't give 5 petals), and 3) that some
of us like both "real" and "geometric" roses.

The Kawasaki Pinecome (OFTC) starts life using the same folds as
Andreas Rose, and almost anyone can **SEE** that the result is
admirably suggestive of a pinecone, even though it isn't all that
close a model of a "real" pinecone.

:-)
--valerie





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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 20:57:28 -0400
From: Meredith Trauner <trauner@husc.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: Origami alphabets

Hi!  Thanks for the interest in my alphabet.  I scanned some of the
diagrams and put them on my web page, at

http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~trauner

Please let me know what you think!

Meredith





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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 23:59:46 -0400
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (S.Y. Chen)
Subject: Paper Animal Workshop CD-ROM

I got my order of Paper Animal Workshop recently. This one is included in
"Kids Mac Pack" special bundle in MacWarehouse, 6 CD-ROM titles for $49.95.
I meant to buy some softwares for my kid. Paper Anaimal Workshop turns out
to be a bonus.

There are 12 animals in that CD-ROM: Butterfly(E), Crane(M), Crow(E),
Eagle(M), Elephant(D), Koala(D), Lion(D), Peacock(M), Seal(E), Shark(D),
Turtle(M), Whale(E), E: easy; M: medium; D: difficult. Rating is their own.
I can only recognize the traditional crane model to my limited knowledge.
The impressive part is the folding animation - a tremendous amount of works
as described by  fred@katz.com (Fred M. Katz). For those who don't know the
folding animation just visit KittyHawk's
homepage(http://www.Opus1.COM/khs/index.htm). This title could be good for
beginners.

Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. SY)
E-Mail: chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov
Origami Page - http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm





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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 00:40:38 -0400
From: Eric Andersen <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: Computational origami...

Has anyone ever heard of computational origami? I found a thesis online at
Stanford by
Robert Scott French called:

Compiling for Computational Origami Using Probabilistic Optimization

Whew! I never thought origami could be that confusing!

Here's the definition:
The term ``computational origami'' was coined by Alan Huang of AT&TBell
Laboratories
[16][15][14] to refer to a class of parallel computing architectures that
have four main properties:

     Each processing element has identical functionality.
     Each processing element is stateless.
     The processing elements are connected by a regular, tessellable
interconnect.
     The interconnect has causal data flow.

On the surface, an origami array looks identical to a systolic array, which
also consists of a regularly connected array of processing elements (PEs).

Can anyone (Tom Hull???) make sense of this? The whole thesis can be found at:

http://suif.stanford.edu/~rfrench/papers/bsthesis/thesis.html

-Eric

.             .     .     .     |--|--|--|--|--|--|  |===|==|   /    i
        .            ___________|__|__|__|__|__|_ |  |===|==|  *  . /=\
__ *            .   /___________________________|-|  |===|==|       |=|
__|  .      .   .  //___________________________| :--------------------.
__|   /|\      _|_|//    ooooooooooooooooooooo  |-|                    |
__|  |/|\|__   ||l|/,----8::::::TONIGHT::::::8 -| | "Don't believe     |
__|._|/|\|||.l |[=|/,----8:::Eric:Andersen:::8 -|-|    a word I say."  |
__|[+|-|-||||li|[=|------8:origami@brown.edu:8 -| |   -Professor Suggs |
_-----.|/| //:\_[=|\`----8:::::::::::::::::::8 -|-|    (in Orgo class) |
 /|  /||//8/ :  8_|\`--- 8ooooooooooooooooooo8 -| |                    |
/=| //||/ |  .  | |\\__________  ____  _________|-|                    |
==|//||  /   .   \ \\__________ |X|  | _________| `---==----------==---'
==| ||  /         \ \__________ |X| \| _________|     ||          ||
==| |~ /     .     \
LS|/  /             \___________________________________________________
                           http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric/





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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 00:52:26 -0400
From: hull@hypatia.math.uri.edu
Subject: Re: Computational origami...

Eric asks about papers talking about "computational origami".
While I haven't actually read these papers, the "word on the street"
is that a branch of parallel processing has coined the term "origami"
to describe a certain type of network.  Presumably there *is* an
analogy, but I've been told (by people who should know) that it
has nothing to do with "real origami".  So unless you want to
learn more about parallel processing (and nothing about origami),
don't bother reading these kind of papers.

----------- Tom "I got the horse right here..." Hull





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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 01:38:32 -0400
From: jwu@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Wu)
Subject: Re: Computational origami...

Tom Hull answered Eric Andersen and said:

>Eric asks about papers talking about "computational origami".
>While I haven't actually read these papers, the "word on the street"
>is that a branch of parallel processing has coined the term "origami"
>to describe a certain type of network.  Presumably there *is* an
>analogy, but I've been told (by people who should know) that it
>has nothing to do with "real origami".  So unless you want to
>learn more about parallel processing (and nothing about origami),
>don't bother reading these kind of papers.

He's right. "Origami" seems to be a much abused word in computer
circles. There's the "computational origami" mentioned above, and
there's also the so-called "origami folding editors" which are
really text editors with a hierarchical structure (kinda like an
outlining program) that can "fold away" parts of the document you
are editing when they aren't in use. And, of course, there's IBM's
"Electric Origami Page" on the Web.

If you're interested in computers and origami, check out Mike
Eisenberg's "HyperGami" web page at

http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~l3d/systems/hypergami

While it's not really origami, it may be a start in the right
direction. I hope to receive some pre-prints of his papers soon,
so I'll know more about what he's really doing. Also, look up
material on "computational geometry" which has applications in
modelling origami on a computer.

 Joseph Wu                      Webmaster of the Origami Page
<jwu@cs.ubc.ca> <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
  Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view.
  Explore the vessel. Make friends with the Captain. Fish a
  little. And then get off when you get Home.  --Max Lucado





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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 02:10:38 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami Group in Manalapan, N. J.

Paul and Eric.......We have a Circle of Origami Paperfolders meeting at the
Monmouth County Headquarters Library on the second Wed. nite of the month.
6:30 to 9 o'clock and a mini convention in Sept.  Any serious paperfolders
 are welcome to attend.  Bring your own paper.  Hope to see you. Dorigami





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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 02:16:04 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Thanx for start stories

To all who have volunteered their start stories, thank you so much.  I am
really enjoying reading all of them and we have a lot of them already.  I
will compile  them as soon as we have enough, & send them out to all who want
them.  Dorigami.





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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 04:50:25 -0400
From: Jeff Lanam <jlanam@netgate.net>
Subject: Dollar Bill Heart

Hi!  I've just joined this list, so bear with me if this has been
asked recently.  I am particularly interested in origami with
dollar bills, and have gotten ahold of a bill folded into a heart
with a four-petal flower on it.  I did not get this from the folder
and I would like to know how to do it.  I really don't want to
dissect it.  Can anyone help?

I have all the books in Origami USA's catalog on dollar folding,
plus the one that got me started, Klutz Press's _The Buck Book_.
(I'll confess my interest--I spend a lot of time and money in
go-go clubs.  A peacock or elephant gets you a smile and makes
an impression.)  Thanks.
Jeff Lanam    jlanam@netgate.net     www.netgate.net/~jlanam





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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 09:22:00 -0400
From: gjones@polarnet.com (gj)
Subject: Re: Computational origami...

REALITY is that "computational origami" is in that class of whatevers that
are made up so that someone can write a disertation on something new.   It
is nice to know that at least it has something to do with CS -- I wonder
how soon it will take it to get over to Art?  Or for that matter it
*sounds* good enough for someone to try something in Math where new
subjects are in even greater demand.

 :-)  -- gj





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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:13:02 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: photographing origami

Doug Philips mentionned his experience photographing origami.
I bet there are others on the list who have tried their hand
at photographing models.  What I want to know is if you have
any tips to give :

How important is choice of background arrangement?

What is the best lighting to use?

Are some papers more appropriate than others?

                            ... Mark

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 13:23:40 -0400
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: Book suppliers

     Hello, all!

     From time to time, we see questions about good places to get our books
     and paper.  I can't say much about the paper, but I have plenty to say
     about where we get our books.  (I'm climing onto my soap box now...)

     Please, whenever possible, use the services of an independent, locally
     owned bookstore.  I can't say it often enough...those big 'uns are
     nice, expansive, and sometimes promise neat book deals (on hardcover
     books they stock...I have yet to see a hardcover origami book in one
     of these stores).  However, they're driving honest, hardworking people
     out of business.

     I use the big, nice, tempting mega-bookstore-thing that's moved into
     my neighborhood as a great big ISBN catalog.  It's nice to be able to
     see the actual book, but then to buy it, I take my business to an
     independent bookshop, where they've gotten to know me and my book
     desires.

     I'll climb down, now.

     Here in Portland, Oregon, we had snow two weekends ago, bone-chilling
     cold all last week, ice Saturday through late Monday morning, and now
     flooding that can be seen on CNN.  Our forbears moved here because
     this was supposed to be a *mild* climate.  I think locusts are being
     predicted for next week... :)  I know most of the rest of the Northern
     Hemisphere is collectively calling us babies.  I'm not denying that we
     are...  My origami-related point?  This is a good time to stay in and
     FOLD! :)

     Please send "here here"s to me privately at JAndre@cfipro.com.  I
     can't respond right away, but I'll try...I will send no responses to
     the rude.





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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:06:56 -0400
From: vann@tredgar.cardiff.com (VAnn Cornelius)
Subject: Re: photographing origami

> Doug Philips mentionned his experience photographing origami.
> I bet there are others on the list who have tried their hand
> at photographing models.  What I want to know is if you have
> any tips to give :
>
> How important is choice of background arrangement?

  If the model is visually strong enough to stand on its own,
  I like to produce an image where the object is grounded only
  by a filtered light. It draws attention to the details of the
  form and leaves focus on the visual presence of the object.

  What this means is that I use a white background with three
  floods reflected off a white umbrella type thing. By shaping
  the backdrop in a curve, there is no horizon line.  If the
  model is made of white paper, then I create soft general
  shadows so there is some definition between the object and
  the background.  I haven't really perfected all this but
  I've had some good luck.

> What is the best lighting to use?
>
> Are some papers more appropriate than others?
>
>                             ... Mark





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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:08:50 -0400
From: vann@tredgar.cardiff.com (VAnn Cornelius)
Subject: Re: Re: letterfold exhibition?

>
> > A message on the list mentioned a special letterfold exhibition at the
> > OUSA convention.  O.K., so what's the skinny on this, who heard about it
     from
> > where, and who's organizing it?  Enquiring minds want to know.
> >
> > Michael Weinstein
> > MichaelW@bdg10.NIDDK.NIH.gov
> >
>

>
> A call for samples is in issue 53 of the Origami USA mag,
> on the back cover:
>
> POSTAL PAPERFOLDERS EXHIBITION PLANNED.
>
> Gay Gross and I (V'Ann Cornelius) are coordinating a
> display of MAILED letterfolds.
>
>   "Origami envelopes and letterfolds are clever designs
>       put to a practical use. Paper used for correstpondence
>       is either folded up into its own self-closing packet
>       for mailing (a letterfold) or a separate sheet can be
>       folded into an origami envelope and then correstpondence
>       is enclosed.  Ordinary letter paper can be used ...
>         "... If you would like to contribute to the exhibit,
>       please send your postal paperfolds by June 1, 1996 to
>       HOME-OFFICE, Attention: Gay Merrill Gross.
>
>       "Your name should appear on the outside of the envelope or
>       letterold. Only include your return address on the outside
>       if you do not mind it appearing in the exhibition...."
>
> The plan is to merely display origami that has made it through the
> postal system.  Some very creative things have been done by some
> creative people and we want to provide an opportunity to show them
> to conventioneers.
>
>
> V'Ann Cornelius             Origami USA
> vann@cardiff.com           15 West 77 Street
                          New York, NY 10024-5192
