




Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:51:54 -0400
From: Sheila Davis <sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com>
Subject: Start story

        'hokay I'll add my story.

        My first encounter with origami came when I was too young to
        remember how old I was.  :-)  Our family was on its annual
        trip to Yellowstone National Park, and we were waiting for
        Grand Geyser to put on its spectacular show.  Since the
        eruption for Grand can only be predicted within +-2 hrs or
        so, the wait can be long, especially for an active sub-five
        year old.  Anyhow, there was a nice man there from some Asian
        heritage who managed to entertain me for a fair amount of time
        by magically turning a piece of paper into a bird.  Amazing!
        I don't know what ever happened to the bird, I probably played
        with it in the sandbox until it disintegrated.

        I learned "bug-catchers" (salt cellar) in grade school but that
        was the extent of my origami experience until junior high, when
        the "magic bird" showed up again.  It seemed that someone learned
        the folding method and was sharing it with friends.  Unfortunately,
        it was the "popular" crowd who learned the method and kept it
        secret.  Not being part of the clique it was some time before
        I managed to find an abandoned bird in a stairwell, and then
        carefully reverse-engineered it to see how it worked.
        Interestingly, since I learned to fold a crane by this method,
        I learned a petal fold by creasing and sinking, and have done it
        that way since.  I can't imagine doing it any other way!

        A few years later I discovered "Secrets of Origami" on the
        discount table at Walden Books.  After several minutes of
        pleading with my parent (it cost a whole $3.95!) they agreed
        to buy it for me.  That's when it all took off.

        Since then I've increased my origami library to ~100 books in
        several languages, and I have more paper than I could ever hope
        to fold.

        I spent a year and a half in Japan and was able to obtain tons
        of beautiful books and papers that I still treasure.  I also
        encountered the "origami is for children" phenomenon that several
        others have mentioned.  But it was always fun to watch a
        Japanese friend trying to show the silly foreigner how to fold
        a frog or something, and then returning the favor by teaching
        them a crab, with all appropriate appendages :-)

        I've been folding off and on for most of my life, but with
        so many fascinating hobbies out there, it's hard to find the
        time I'd like to devote to origami.  Ah well, I can content
        myself with my daily mailing list fix.

Regards,

  Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
 sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado





Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:18:05 -0400
From: Sheila Davis <sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com>
Subject: Re: How I Started

"David M. Dewey" <dmdewey@yrkpa.kias.com> wrote:>
> This past Christmas I
> folded the creche scene from Harbin's Secrets of Origami. This was one of
> the first models I folded when I started origami 20+ years ago in New
> Jersey.
>
        While in college, I would fold this set each year around
        Christmas time.  I'd fold a piece a day and carefully
        observe my roommates' reactions as the scene grew.  Invariably,
        at least one roommate would be fascinated with the figures
        and delighted as each new piece was added.  On Christmas,
        I'd box up the set and give it to the enthusiastic roomie
        as a gift.

        It sometimes pays to show appreciation for others' work :-)

Regards,

  Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
 sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado





Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:54:03 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: folding time

 I find that I have plenty of folding time in meetings where someone else
 is doing most (or all) of the talking.  The only down-side I've had so
 far is that some people who see you folding may think you're not paying
 attention... and if the one who is moderating or talking, s/he may feel
 that you're being rude.  When asked "What are you doing?", I usually
 answer "I'm folding under pressure."  That usually relieves tension.

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:51:14 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: OR Origami Levels

> if it's the first time
> I've made a piece, and looking through the diagram there's lots of small
> fiddly folds, I use my biggest sheets of paper

That's what I tried to do when I was working on folding Peter Engel's crab.
I soon learned that bigness isn't always everything.  It did let me fold
those small parts but .... the paper kept on tearing.  Sometimes you need
tough paper as well!  But, you know, this is just part of the fun of
learning in what different ways paper has personality.

                               ... Mark

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
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|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:26:36 -0400
From: Ingi And T <ingi_t@ATC.AMERITEL.NET>
Subject: Re:OR Origami levels

Pamela writes:

>4) suggest that remaining students 'adopt' ones who elect to leave with a
>promise of a one-on-one encounter between them sometime during the
>convention (this adds incentive for those who shouldn't be there to leave).

>Pamela
>parkmaam@gol.com
>Pamela Saalbach
>parkmaam@gol.com

How about a 2/1 part class?  Say, for example, a complex model takes 1 hour
to fold, if you don't have to stop too often to explain folds.  Register
people who think they can handle a faster pace for the first part of the
class.  Fold the entire model.  The second part of the class invites people
who need one-on-one (or as close to possible) help.  Then the students
become the teachers (with the help of the original instructor whenever
needed, and diagrammed instructions).  Thus, you have a 2/1 part class.  The
first part shows how to fold the model to the next class's teachers. Thus
the people who attend the first part get to also have a better chance of
memorizing the model (and there isn't any better way to learn something than
to teach it), and working out the tough parts.  The second part of the class
will probably be a lot longer, but will promote new friendships and
challenges.  At no time are the newly designated teachers left stranded and
guessing.

In theory, this works well, but there may be a problem getting people to
sign up for the first part because of the time commitment at a place where
you want to do everything before you go.  The commitment would definately
have to be there. Possibly, the sign-up sheet could have matched columns
(one for the first part and one for the second), and have the stipulation
that no one can sign up for the second without a matching person signed up
for the first.

:)
T in Maryland
ingi_t@atc.ameritel.net

"Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose."
-- Kris Kristofferson, "Me and Bobbie McGee"





Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:53:24 -0400
From: unhinged@yrkpa.kias.com
Subject: Re: functional origami - leather

Dinosaur bones are pretty much clean, no more meat, detritus and flesh on
them.  Maybe we should set a Decomposition Range on the categories of
Origami models that are allowable to fold?

On Mon, 29 Jan 1996 ACPQUINN@myriad.middlebury.edu wrote:

> > Origami should avoid dead animals, IMH veggy O...
>
> What do you think about folding dinosaurs then?
>
> Alasdair





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 03:50:21 -0400
From: Bob Nienhuis <IBFIRBN@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Origami fonts

   Sorry for being late on this, I just thought of it. I believe that
a program called Draft Choice has a provision for importing PCX images,
which can then be traced. It also has a feature that allows one to
draw fonts. Perhaps by combining these two features, one could create
origami fonts.

It is a shareware program which can be downloaded from the Trius BBS
at (508) 794-0762.

Good luck, and Happy folding!
Bob Nienhuis
ibfirbn@mvs.oac.ucla.edu





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 04:25:12 -0400
From: ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr (ciarlet mathieu)
Subject: origami on TV

        Hi everyone,

        Just a little call to tell you that last Saturday I've seen an episode
of 'X-files' called "born again" - I happen to LOVE this serial as much
as origami -. It was originally broadcast in the US the 29 of april 1994.
I know we're sometimes late in France.
        Anyway, it's just to say that a man is reincarnate in an 8year old child
and he happened to fold many origami among which he planned to realize all the
animals of the Noe arch picture he had on his wall. So One can see an eagle
, a girafe and many others. Sadly though I didn't tape the episode.

        I don't know if this info had already been "broadcast" to the list; I'm
rather new to it after all; but if yes consider it as a "re-run".

        bye bye all.

Mathieu Ciarlet         ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr
"May the fold be with you"





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 07:35:55 -0400
From: David Holmes <cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Location of Andreas Rose

On Sun, 28 Jan 1996 DORIGAMI@aol.com wrote:

> had one of your classes but I'll bet you are a good teacher.What is Andreas
> Rose and where could I find it.  It sounds interesting.  Dorigami
>
There is a postscript diagram of Andreas Rose in the Origami Archives.

David M Holmes                  cm4bcdmh@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Computer Science degree student at Staffordshire University
British Origami Society        Association of C & C++ Users





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:59:58 -0400
From: marmonk@eskimo.com (Mark Morden)
Subject: Re: Origami Computer Fonts Wanted

[snip]
>Finally has anyone ever written any animated screen savers based on origami?
>If so I would love to obtain a copy.
>
>Cheers
>
>Robin Macey  (Nottingham, England)
>robinmacey@aol.com
>
>

The Greatest Paper Airplanes by Kittyhawk Software has an animated screen
saver included in the full registered version.  The program can be set up so
that the airplanes are folded and then unfolded continuously on screen.  I
believe this same company is producing another program for folding animals.
If this is true and it is similar to the paper airplane package, then there
could be an "origami" screen saver included.

Mark

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I belive in the rising sun;
not because I see it but by it I see all else.
                                           C.S. Lewis





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:15:58 -0400
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Re: Origami fonts

Hi all,

On the discussion of creating origami fonts, I seem to remember seeing an
application that can be used to creates fonts.  I believe this
software/application is called Fontographer by Macromedia.

Cheers,
--
Yusri Johan (gs01yyj@panther.gsu.edu)
http://www2.gsu.edu/~gs01yyj/origami/origami.html

"The whole world is a circus if you look at it the right way.  Everytime
you pick up the dust and see not the dust, that's magic.  Everytime you
feel that you are alive because being alive is fantastic, and everytime
you feel that feeling, you are part of the Circus of Dr. Lao."
                              From 'Seven Faces of Dr. Lao'





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:18:19 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: OR Origami Levels

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

While I agree with many of the thoughtful comments made so far about
teaching and origami levels, I still think that the profusion of
warnings at the OUSA convention are intimidating.  Just stating what
the prerequisites are to fold models at the intermediate and complex
levels would be fine, and perhaps there are certain models that need
more specific prerequisites.

Given the emphasis on not getting in over your head at the OUSA classes,
it seems that what is missing is a way for folder to gain the skills to
fold at a certain level without causing an embarrassing situation in a
class.  What about OUSA having a class at the beginning of the day that
teaches the prerequisite folds for a given level?  For example, there
could be an class to teach beginners the folds and techniques to fold
intermediate models, and to teach intermediate folders the complex
techniques.  I grant that a lot of complex techniques can't be taught
in a single class and that practice and experience play a big part in
handling complex models, but if a person is being warned not to "get in
over your head", then a more structured approach to letting folders
stretch themselves is needed.

Maybe graduates of these classes could be given a sticker for their
name tag ("Hi - I a new complex folder") that would allow instructors
to identify who might need extra help or allow them to be matched up
with a more experieinced buddy at the start of class.

Finally, I want to point out again that, despite the warnings, the
teachers have always been great.  I have never seen them put anyone
down or ask someone to leave class.  This fact has made the dire tone
of the warnings seem even more out of place.

Since my experieince is only with the OUSA conventions, I am curious
how these issues are handled at other conventions.  Are class levels
listed?  Are prerequisites for each level advertised?  Are there
warnings about taking classes at the wrong level?  What is the tone of
the warnings?

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:31:15 -0400
From: kkinney@med.unc.edu (Kevin Kinney)
Subject: Re: Phoenix?

> I created a large (8 foot) phoenix for a display once - no diagrams
> survive. I do have diags for a birdpase Phoenix with flames, they can
> be scanned & sent if you're really* keen...
>
> Nick Robinson

Sorry to post this to the whole list, but my set-up strips off originating
addresses...

N. Robinson,
        I would like a copy of your diagrams, if possible.  I've not had
much luck with getting diagrams electronically, but if snail mail is
impractical, let me know how you'll send tham, and I'll arrange some sort
of pick-up (possibly by an more computer-literate friend).  Please contact
me directly so we can work out the details.

Kevin Kinney
kkinney@med.unc.edu

P.S.  The 8-foot Phoenix also sounds impressive!





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:53:02 -0400
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.com
Subject: older paper and wet folding

fellow folders of paper,,,

if one is folding with older non-traditional origami paper
whose "edges" crack when folded

could one do "wet folding" and prevent the cracking of the edges???

i've never wet folded
but have briefly heard about the term

if the answer is yes to "crack prevention"
then what is the best way to "wet fold"

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-=-=-=-                     MAKE THINGS HAPPEN                          -=-=-=-
-=-=-=- jack thomas weres                        jtweres@psp.ih.att.com -=-=-=-





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:26:56 -0400
From: "Weinstein, Michael" <michaelw@bdg10.niddk.nih.gov>
Subject: Re: older paper and wet folding

Wet folding is a technique that works with "sized" paper, i.e. paper that
utilizes glue to hold the fibres together in its preparation.  The model is
wetted, folded, and then held in place by drafting tape, paper clips, or
whatever else is handy until it dries.  The glue holds to finished shape of
the model, allowing spectacular sculptural effects.

If your paper does not contain size, wet folding won't work.  Sorry.  A
good, cheap, commercially available paper that wet folds marvelously is so
called "Calligraphy Parchment" (which is neither parchment nor good for
calligraphy) which is available in most craft supply stores.  Good luck.

Michael Weinstein
MichaelW@bdg10.NIDDK.NIH





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:39:25 -0400
From: "Andrew P. Anselmo" <anselmo@ERXSG.rl.plh.af.mil>
Subject: 1996 convention dates?

Does someone have the 96 convention dates they could post/e-mail
to me?

Thanks.

A.

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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:13:13 -0400
From: Michael J Gebis <gebis@ecn.purdue.edu>
Subject: Re: older paper and wet folding

jtweres@psp.ih.att.com wrote:
> if one is folding with older non-traditional origami paper
> whose "edges" crack when folded
> could one do "wet folding" and prevent the cracking of the edges???

> i've never wet folded
> but have briefly heard about the term

> if the answer is yes to "crack prevention"
> then what is the best way to "wet fold"

The answer to your question is: maybe.

There are a few web pages that talk about wet folding.  The BEST thing
you can do is experiment, since each paper is unique.  Don't get the
paper too wet (what is too wet?  experiment!) and don't fold the
creases too firmly (which can break paper fibers and cause a lot of
water absorbtion at the crease).  Use clips or wire to hold some of
the 3-d folds until they dry.

You can read all you want about wet folding, but you'll learn more in
the first five minutes of actually doing it.  Don't expect success the
first time (or even the first 5 times!) and have a lot of patience.
Take a look at the various web pages but don't be afraid to just jump
right in and try it.

--
Mike Gebis  gebis@ecn.purdue.edu





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:25:53 -0400
From: Marie_Baxter-Spalding@WOUB.pbs.org (Marie Baxter-Spalding)
Subject: Re: Re: Location of Andreas Rose

hi all,

I feel kinda dumb asking this question but i am new to the list and wondered
how to get to the origami archives so I might locate Andreas Rose.  Thanks
for your patience!!!

Marie

Marie_Baxter-Spalding@WOUB.PBS.org





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:13:13 -0400
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Subject: Re: Origami fonts

At 03:54 AM 1/30/96 -0400, Bob Nienhuis wrote:
>   Sorry for being late on this, I just thought of it. I believe that
>a program called Draft Choice has a provision for importing PCX images,
>which can then be traced. It also has a feature that allows one to
>draw fonts. Perhaps by combining these two features, one could create
>origami fonts.
>

I don't think Draft Choice can do bitmap tracing. It can not export its own
font format to TTF's either.

I am not aware of any shareware solution for outline fonts editing either.

Commercial products are:
Fontographer for win & mac(http://www.macromedia.com/Tools/Fontographer/)
or Type-Designer for win (http://visionthing.cdcom.de/dtp/td30e.htm)

If you are an UNIX person there is a "possible" cheap solution (postscript,
not TTF's)
* GET GNU Font Utilities - convert bitmap image to postscript font

---------------------------------------------------
Sy Chen <sychen@enh.nist.gov>
Origami Page - http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:16:36 -0400
From: Penny Groom <penny@sector.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Dansk Origami Society

Does anyone know the current contact address for the above ? I had their
December magazine  returned to me, 'not known at this address'( which we
had been using with no problems for some time).

Please send me a private e-mail to penny@sector.demon.co.uk if you can
throw any light on it.

Don't forget, it's really easy to join the BOS now overseas members  can
pay by credit card, ask me to download you a form if you are interested.

Penny Groom
Membership Secretary British Origami Society





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:05:15 -0400
From: CM317@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami fonts

In a message dated 96-01-30 09:20:12 EST, Yusri wrote:

>On the discussion of creating origami fonts, I seem to remember seeing an
>application that can be used to creates fonts.  I believe this
>software/application is called Fontographer by Macromedia.

Fontographer is prettty expensive, so it probably wouldn't be a choice.  If
anyone has AOL, you could probably e-mai lsomeone and see if they can make it
for you.





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:55:30 -0400
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Origami Alphabets

I think that Paul Jackson's "Origami A Complete Step by Step Guide" has
a complete alphabet, an exercise in reverse folding - you start from a
(long) strip of suitable length. I also have a small Italian booklet,
with 3D letters - fashioned out of rectangular tubes - each letter is
from a single piece of paper. I'll try to confirm the above when I next
enter 'THE ORIGAMI ZONE'.

Richard K.
(R.A.Kennedy@birminham.ac.uk)





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:57:38 -0400
From: Sandra Hoffman <ghidra@magi.com>
Subject: Re: OR Origami Levels

It's been interesting reading all of this discussion of the way classes
work at conventions. My perspective from the point of view of someone who
had never even heard about conventions, let alone the idea of teaching
origami in classes, after reading this discussion, is that I'd probably
never go to a convention, and never take an origami class. It seems from
the descriptions a totally intimidating and mostly awfully stressful
process. A process that needs an incredible amount of tinkering with just
to be at all feasible.

Am I missing something here? Why do classes at all if they are so fraught
with problems? What do people get out of this process?

sph

ghidra@magi.com

"This will do," said the bunyip to himself.
"No one can see me here. I can be as handsome as I like."





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:36:29 -0400
From: Anne R LaVin <lavin@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: OR Origami Levels

On Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:59:10 ghidra@magi.com wrote:

>...after reading this discussion, is that I'd probably
>never go to a convention, and never take an origami class. It seems from
>the descriptions a totally intimidating and mostly awfully stressful
>process...

Oooooooooh, no, no, don't think that.  The conventions are great, and
the classes taught at them are, almost entirely, wonderful (in my
opinion, of course.)  I've been to three conventions (or maybe four, I
forget), and enjoyed each one immensely, learned a lot, and generally
had a good experience.

>...A process that needs an incredible amount of tinkering with just
>to be at all feasible.

Keep in mind that something like *500* people attend the convention.
There are bound to be some problems with that many people attempting
to find classes that they are both interested in and that are at the
right level for their folding abality.  So in any given year, some
people will get in a class above their level, some will be bored, or
maybe just not hit it off with the people they meet, the teacher, etc.
That doesn't mean the whole process is flawed, it's just statistics.

>Am I missing something here? Why do classes at all if they are so fraught
>with problems? What do people get out of this process?

The classes at the convention do work, for the most part.  In many
cases, they are an opportunity to fold something not otherwise
available to anyone (i.e. authors teaching undiagrammed stuff) or to
have the moral and technical support of other folks in a new model,
etc.  Having folded mostly by myself most of my life, I cannot begin
to describe how amazing it is to know you're surrounded by hundreds of
other people folding, almost continuously, for days.  The discussion
on the list has pretty much been about the specific problems that can
and do sometimes occur, and not about how much of it all just works!

An added bonus at the convention, outside of the classes, is that the
common area always has groups of people hanging around, folding stuff,
talking about paper, or otherwise engaged in origami-ish activities.
If you're not interested in any of the classes offered at a particular
time, you can wander around there, and ask to join just about any
group.  I've never heard anyone say "no, go away," always "sure!  come
fold with us!"  And the folding sessions go on in the lounges of the
dorms until all hours of the night in much the same fasion.
Absolutely not to be missed, I'd say.

Please do consider the convention, if you're able to get to New York
around that time of year.

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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:51:32 -0400
From: hender@ix.netcom.com (mike henderson )
Subject: Don Shall

class you at Convention 94.

                         Mike Henderson
                         hender@ix.netcom.com





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:07:12 -0400
From: "MARGARET M. BARBER" <mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>
Subject: Re: OR Origami Levels

I must put in my $0.02 worth.  I have returned to origami relatively
recently (within the last two years).  I attended my first OUSA
convention last June.  I was not sure where I fell in the simple -
complex continuum.  I can fold some complex models, but have incredible
difficulties with others.  The first day of the convention, I heeded the
warnings about not getting in over one's head and took simple classes.
These were fun, but not very challenging.  The next day, I signed up for
a complex model.  Boy was I ever in over my head.  I tried to keep up.
People next to me tried to help, but it was obvious that I could not grasp the
concepts needed to complete the model. :-(  I hope I didn't slow the
class down, and I didn't ask for much help, but I was definitely out of
my league.

On the other hand, I agree with Janet Hamilton who suggested some way to
help people develop complex level skills.  I can do some kind of
sinks (which are designated complex level) but there are others (mostly
in Mr Lang's books) that I find impossible... I yearn to develop
necessary skills...  They have classes in techniques like wet folding at
the convention, maybe the class for intermediate and complex folds would
work.  I certainly would sign up!





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:49:00 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Andrea's Rose

For those of you who are wondering, JC Nolan's "Andrea's Rose" is in his new
book "Creating Origami" also. It is availabole through Alexander Blace Company
at 1-800-238-1279. There are some incredible models in the book, and JC's
     folding
philosophy... makes for some interesting reading!

Alexander Blace also has a Barbara Pearl book available (I'm sorry, I can't
recall the name, but it is about teaching Math and Origami - something of
another thread recently). AND instuctional tapes by Michael LaFosse of some
of his work!





Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:46:48 -0400
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (S.Y. Chen)
Subject: Re: Andrea's Rose

>For those of you who are wondering, JC Nolan's "Andrea's Rose" is in his new

If you happen to be able to access WWW browser. Just go directly to Master
Wu's web page and click, click, click, ... and click.

No web browser? No problem. ftp to ftp.rug.nl and change directory to
origami/models. Get 00index file if you are curous about what models are in
this ftp site. Get andrea.ps if you just want this file. Well you still
need to have postscript printer to print it or postscript interpreter to
print it on non-postscript printer.

No FTP? No problem. You still have E-mail, right?
send E-mail to origami@info.service.rug.nl without subject
Put following in text body to get model index
path models
index
stop

or put following in text to get uuencoded file
path models
get andrea.ps
stop

If you are not familiar with anonymous ftp or uudecoding go get faq file by
sending e-mail to origami@info.service.rug.nl
with body text:
path faqs
get files.faq
stop

None of above help? Get a local computer guru to help you or send me
private e-mail instead.

Good luck!

Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. SY)
E-Mail: chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov
Origami Page - http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 02:34:48 -0400
From: jwu@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Wu)
Subject: Re: OR Origami Levels

>On Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:59:10 ghidra@magi.com wrote:
>
>>...after reading this discussion, is that I'd probably
>>never go to a convention, and never take an origami class. It seems from
>>the descriptions a totally intimidating and mostly awfully stressful
>>process...
>
>Oooooooooh, no, no, don't think that.  The conventions are great, and
>the classes taught at them are, almost entirely, wonderful (in my
>opinion, of course.)  I've been to three conventions (or maybe four, I
>forget), and enjoyed each one immensely, learned a lot, and generally
>had a good experience.

Hear, hear! You must also remember that many of the teachers are not
professional teachers either. They're just doing the best they can. So, we
have inexperienced folders matched up with inexperienced teachers, and
chaos results. The "don't get in over your head" reminder (and that's what
it is, really) is an attempt to make life easier for both the students and
the teachers. On the whole, however, things work out well. I've been to two
conventions myself, and have taught at both (in fact, I only taught last
year and took no classes). I try very hard to make sure that everyone can
keep up and have yet to tell anyone to give up (as far as I can remember).

>Keep in mind that something like *500* people attend the convention.
>There are bound to be some problems with that many people attempting
>to find classes that they are both interested in and that are at the
>right level for their folding abality.  So in any given year, some
>people will get in a class above their level, some will be bored, or
>maybe just not hit it off with the people they meet, the teacher, etc.
>That doesn't mean the whole process is flawed, it's just statistics.

Very true. In fact, there were 600 people at both of the last 2 conventions.

<The rest of Anne's comments were deleted to save space, but it was all
relevant and important. Convention is not to be missed if at all possible!>

 Joseph Wu                      Webmaster of the Origami Page
<jwu@cs.ubc.ca> <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
  Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view.
  Explore the vessel. Make friends with the Captain. Fish a
  little. And then get off when you get Home.  --Max Lucado





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 03:03:02 -0400
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Re: older paper and wet folding

Jack -
Michael LaFosse has a great video tape entitled "Happy, Good Luck Bats &
Horseshoe Crab" which serves as an introduction to wet-folding.  He also has
two other tapes coming out very soon which are suitable for wetfolding -
"Origami Sea Turtle & Koi" and "Origami Penquin & Squirrel".
-------------------------------------------------------
At 11:53 AM 1/30/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>fellow folders of paper,,,
>
>if one is folding with older non-traditional origami paper
>whose "edges" crack when folded
>
>could one do "wet folding" and prevent the cracking of the edges???
>
>i've never wet folded
>but have briefly heard about the term
>
>if the answer is yes to "crack prevention"
>then what is the best way to "wet fold"
>
>
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>-=-=-=-                     MAKE THINGS HAPPEN                          -=-=-=-
>-=-=-=- jack thomas weres                        jtweres@psp.ih.att.com -=-=-=-
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 03:30:56 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Location of Andreas Rose

I believe that
Andreas Rose is also in last year's
OUSA Annual Book Models by Members,
available from the OUSA supply center.
I believe there are postscript diagrams
and/or a photo on one of the
"other origami home pages" listed on
Joseph Wu's Origami Home Page.
If you have access to Origami for the
Connaissuer [sp??] you can get to the
Rose by starting with the Kawasaki
Pinecone.

--valerie





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 06:09:10 -0400
From: "Sergei Y. Afonkin" <sergei@origami.nit.spb.su>
Subject: Shen's address?

Dear friends,

I have heard that Dr. Philip Shen has now email address.
Could anybody help me to find it?
I wil be very grateful!
Please, writo to my own address: sergei@origami.nit.spb.su
Sergei Afonkin





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:30:53 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Overwhelmed.

> am amazed at how many people love origami, but I don't have enough time to
> read many. IT BUGS ME! I FEEL GUILTY! I hope some of my fellow origami
> fanatics can help me escape my guilt and my subscription.

Before you unsub, why not just look at the message headers & only read those
that look interesting? F'rinstance, you could cheerfully ignore the recent
Roses/Moravian threads & not miss a huge amount! Again, a plea to all to
make titles as clear as possible, even if it means a few seconds thought!

Nick Robinson





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:01:07 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: business card folding at M.I.T.

This is short notice, but I've organized a last minute IAP
(Independent Activities Period) Class at M.I.T. on folding business
cards, with an eye toward getting more help with my sponge.  The class
is tomorrow, Feb. 1, from 4 to 6 PM in Room 2-142.  If you're in the
area and want to come, you are welcome.  If you need directions to get
there, send me email.

        -- jeannine mosely (j9@concentra.com)





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:38:51 -0400
From: Jim Hollister 512-356-7027 <Jim.Hollister@SEMATECH.Org>
Subject: Diagrams for Kawasaki's rose

          As far as I can tell the only place I can get diagrams for
          Kawasaki's rose is in "Origami for the Connoisseur" which is out of
          print. Would someone with the book be willing to mail me a copy of
          the diagrams?

          Jim Hollister
          2006 Chaparral Drive
          Round Rock, TX  78681





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:45:28 -0400
From: hender@ix.netcom.com (mike henderson )
Subject: Don Shall

here it is again.

          Is Don Shall on this list? I have a queastion about a class
he  taught at convention 94'. If you are Don please e-mail me.

                      Mike Henderson
                      hender@ix.netcom.com





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:45:41 -0400
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Origami Alphabets

Further information:

Paul Jackson "Origami a complete step-by-step guide" isbn 0 600 565 483
p. 100-103

Full instructions are given for A and B, together with outlines for C to
Z. Upper case only, no numerals.

"L'Origami Dalla A Alla Z" models by Paolo Bascetta, drawings by Luigi
Leonardi.

A to Z (upper case only), numerals 0 to 9. (Some of the letters are better
than others). The booklet is in Italian, produced by Centro Diffusione
Origami (the Italian origami association - I don't know their current
address). I bought the booklet as a sale item from BOS supplies.

Richard K.
(R.A.Kennedy@birmingham.ac.uk)





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:21:15 -0400
From: Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk (Nick Robinson)
Subject: older paper and wet folding

There's a text on wet-folding I wrote that is available from Joseph
Wu's WWW page - try it - you'll like it!

Nick Robinson





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:53:32 -0400
From: jfryer@lib.ursinus.edu
Subject: Re: OR Origami Levels

Last year was my first convention and I was glad for the "don't get in
over your head" reminders.  Those complex models were so tempting, and
some of them didn't *look* that hard.

I found Mark Kennedy's class "Paper Handling 201" to be very helpful.  I
left the class with samples I had made of a rabbit ear, color change, etc.
We didn't make any models, just practiced specific techniques.  Maybe the
name of the class wasn't appealing enough to attact those who wanted an
opportunity to increase their skill, but the help definitely was there.

                          Judith
                          jfryer@lib.ursinus.edu





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:42:07 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dansk Origami Society

Penny....please send me form.....One of the reasons I don't subscribe is
because I never knew how much to send.
Dorigami.





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:44:47 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: origami on TV 2

the T.V.  and on a craft show they were just announcing they said that in a
few minutes they were going to show origami...and guess what.....it was
Robert Neale demonstrating how to make the scottie dog  and something else.
 Robert, unbeknowst to him was my mentor as far as modulars were concerned.
 His modulars were the best!  They have never been actually published.  He
made a grid with money that I will never forget.  It  had such a clever lock.
He rekindled my interest in origami at a time when I was just moderately
interested.  This made me a lifetime afficionado....Dorigami.





Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 23:56:36 -0400
From: MJNAUGHTON@amherst.edu
Subject: One-Piece Omega Star

Hello All,
I just got a call from someone in New York who is having trouble with a
one-piece omega star. She unfolded it and now can't get it back to-
gether again! Naturally, I told her that her big mistake was getting
in over her head, and then hung up! ;=)  -)

Actually, I told her that I'm not very familiar with this model (my
expertise is with the 6- and 12-piece models), but I would ask around.
She said she talked with people at the home office, but they only knew
one that has a "hem" around the edge (you begin by folding a "hem"
around the edges of the square and then proceed from there). She said
her model has no such "hem".

Does this ring any bells? Does anyone recognize the model she has? I
told her I would get back to her if I could find anything out.

Thanks in advance for any help you might give. . . .

Mike Naughton

PS: all the "origami levels" discussion is most interesting! I'll
be posting some more thoughts once I've had a chance to get them
collected.





Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:40:34 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re: older paper and wet folding

I don't know of regular kami has sizing in it, but I got the chance to look at
Michael LaFosse's tape of his penguin and squirrel (soon to be available for
purchase) and he walks you through wet folding with kami on the penguin (I
don't think I recommend it at all for the squirrel though) There is a great
section at the end of the tape where he shows you how to prepare paper for
wetfolding - I found it very interesting and one of these days will actually
give it a try (perhaps when my very active children are in school during
the days full time and I have time to think and concentrate!! ;-)

I guess my point is I wouldn't say that wetfolding won't work for other paper
(unless kami does have some sizing to it)

Dee

dp





Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 02:15:55 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Ow's Hearts

Does anyone know if the Japan Publications version of "Origami Hearts" that I
just found on the shelves at the local bookstore is the same as the booklet
that OUSA has? It looks like a really fun book, but the OUSA version is more
suited to my pocketbook at this moment... ;-)

Dee
blynch@du.edu





Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 05:40:39 -0400
From: jwu@cs.ubc.CA (Joseph Wu)
Subject: Re: older paper and wet folding

>I don't know of regular kami has sizing in it, but I got the chance to look at
>Michael LaFosse's tape of his penguin and squirrel (soon to be available for
>purchase) and he walks you through wet folding with kami on the penguin (I
>don't think I recommend it at all for the squirrel though) There is a great
>section at the end of the tape where he shows you how to prepare paper for
>wetfolding - I found it very interesting and one of these days will actually
>give it a try (perhaps when my very active children are in school during
>the days full time and I have time to think and concentrate!! ;-)
>
>I guess my point is I wouldn't say that wetfolding won't work for other paper
>(unless kami does have some sizing to it)

Michael puts sizing/paste (methyl cellulose) into the water when he folds
with unsized paper. Most papers have some sizing, but few have enough for
wet-folding. Kami, for example, doesn't have much.

 Joseph Wu                      Webmaster of the Origami Page
<jwu@cs.ubc.ca> <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
  Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view.
  Explore the vessel. Make friends with the Captain. Fish a
  little. And then get off when you get Home.  --Max Lucado





Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 06:49:41 -0400
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: One-Piece Omega Star

>
> Actually, I told her that I'm not very familiar with this model (my
> expertise is with the 6- and 12-piece models), but I would ask around.
> She said she talked with people at the home office, but they only knew
> one that has a "hem" around the edge (you begin by folding a "hem"
> around the edges of the square and then proceed from there). She said
> her model has no such "hem".
>
> Does this ring any bells? Does anyone recognize the model she has? I
> told her I would get back to her if I could find anything out.

Sounds like the model invented by John Montroll. You can find it on the last
page of his Animal Origami for the Enthusiast. I love this model!
--
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:23:41 -0400
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Re: Ow's Hearts

Dee and others who are planning to buy Ow's "Origami Hearts",
        This book is actually the same one as the "More Origami Hearts"
book that you will find available from OUSA.  The difference is only in
the layout of those two books. While "More Origami Hearts" are not
printed with colorful pictures, "Origami Hearts" has many great colorful
pictures of the finished models which can be inspirational sometime :).
Because of this, the prices are obviously different.

Later,
Yusri





Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:49:40 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Shen's address?

Sergei..Sorry I cannot arrange to come to your convention though I would love
to.  It is too late too to send the video...had I known you wanted it sooner,
I would surely have sent it.  If you are are interested in how I got into
doing this program, I will be happy to share information with you.  I have
done it for 10 years this month.  Hands across the sea. Dorigami





Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 01:33:28 -0400
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Re: Ow's Hearts

Dee -
If I might ask - how much was "Origami Hearts" at the bookstore?  I just
added this book (Japan Publications) to my line and would like to make sure
my pricing is fair.
Thanks -
Bren

-----------------------------------------

At 02:18 AM 2/1/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone know if the Japan Publications version of "Origami Hearts" that I
>just found on the shelves at the local bookstore is the same as the booklet
>that OUSA has? It looks like a really fun book, but the OUSA version is more
>suited to my pocketbook at this moment... ;-)
>
>Dee
>blynch@du.edu
>
>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 02:23:25 -0400
From: "Eric, accept no imitations!" <Eric_Andersen@brown.edu>
Subject: Chris Palmer models online!

        Tom Hull just taught me Chris Palmer's flower tower! Now if I could
only remember it...
        Anyway, we put a few of Tom's models on my home page. You can take a
look at the flower tower and an octagonal flower design (by Chris Palmer),
Jeremy Shafer's infamous flasher (which actually scanned in well despite its
depth), and Tom's hexagonal zig-zag tower, among others. Right now its only
text links, but I plan to put thumbnails for each picture so you can see a
small version of each picture before you download the large image.
        My origami page is located at:

http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric/origami.html

If you have Netscape 2.0, then you might want to take advantage of my
Netscape 2.0 enhancements, so you should point your browser to:

http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric

and then click on my home page button and then on the origami page button.
This will load the frame setup. If you 2.0 users have any problems at all
with my page, please let me know! I have a feeling that the 2.0b6a version
might crash on my opening page. If it does, just restart and go straight to
the origami page. Thanks, and enjoy!

-Eric

.             .     .     .     |--|--|--|--|--|--|  |===|==|   /    i
        .            ___________|__|__|__|__|__|_ |  |===|==|  *  . /=\
__ *            .   /___________________________|-|  |===|==|       |=|
__|  .      .   .  //___________________________| :--------------------.
__|   /|\      _|_|//    ooooooooooooooooooooo  |-|                    |
__|  |/|\|__   ||l|/,----8::::::TONIGHT::::::8 -| | "Don't believe     |
__|._|/|\|||.l |[=|/,----8:::Eric:Andersen:::8 -|-|    a word I say."  |
__|[+|-|-||||li|[=|------8:::math@brown.edu::8 -| |   -Professor Suggs |
_-----.|/| //:\_[=|\`----8:::::::::::::::::::8 -|-|    (in Orgo class) |
 /|  /||//8/ :  8_|\`--- 8ooooooooooooooooooo8 -| |                    |
/=| //||/ |  .  | |\\__________  ____  _________|-|                    |
==|//||  /   .   \ \\__________ |X|  | _________| `---==----------==---'
==| ||  /         \ \__________ |X| \| _________|     ||          ||
==| |~ /     .     \
LS|/  /             \___________________________________________________
                           http://techhouse.brown.edu/~tech/eric/





Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 04:17:18 -0400
From: jwu@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Wu)
Subject: Origami Page

Howdy, folks! Just to let you all know that I've updated the pages (finally!)
and I've included support for Netscape 2.0 extensions. It still works fine with
other browsers. Happy surfing!

 Joseph Wu                      Webmaster of the Origami Page
<jwu@cs.ubc.ca> <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
  Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view.
  Explore the vessel. Make friends with the Captain. Fish a
  little. And then get off when you get Home.  --Max Lucado





Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:42:56 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re:  functional origami - leather

> > Origami should avoid dead animals, IMH veggy O...
>
> What do you think about folding dinosaurs then?

I meant animals as a folding medium rather than a subject!

Nick Robinson





Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 17:22:35 -0400
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: Re[2]: functional origami - leather

     Don't most of our less-than-successful attempts come out looking
     rather like dead animals?  That's how I turn origami failure into
     origami success.  When in doubt, just tell everyone it's a *dead*
     whatever you were attempting!  :)

     Mr. Robinson, just for funsies, what do you think of that?

     :-P  JAndre@cfipro.com

     Hmmm...come to think of it, "origami" literally means "folding paper"
     ('cept in Japanese it's all one word...).  If we got into too many
     discussions about leather folding, we'd have to start an "Ori-Leather"
     list!

     I don't have enough to do today, do I??

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re:  functional origami - leather
Author:  origami-l@nstn.ca at Internet
Date:    2/2/96 1:02 PM

> > Origami should avoid dead animals, IMH veggy O...
>
> What do you think about folding dinosaurs then?

I meant animals as a folding medium rather than a subject!

Nick Robinson





Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 18:04:19 -0400
From: Meredith Trauner <trauner@husc.harvard.edu>
Subject: re: Origami Fonts

I missed the original post about this, but in case anyone is interested,
I made an origami alphabet (from squares, not strips) a few years ago.
(I'm still working on final diagrams for them; I'm up to U,
alphabetically.)  The letters end up as rectangular shapes, with the
letters in color and the background in white.

Meredith Trauner





Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 18:25:19 -0400
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Subject: re: Origami Fonts

At 06:06 PM 2/2/96 -0400, you wrote:
>I missed the original post about this, but in case anyone is interested,
>I made an origami alphabet (from squares, not strips) a few years ago.
>(I'm still working on final diagrams for them; I'm up to U,
>alphabetically.)  The letters end up as rectangular shapes, with the
>letters in color and the background in white.
>
>Meredith Trauner
>

Meredith,

Where are you going to publish or distribute it?

Thanks.

---------------------------------------------------
Sy Chen <sychen@enh.nist.gov>
Origami Page - http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm





Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 20:30:46 -0400
From: LapinPub@aol.com
Subject: Re: Location of Andreas Rose

Andrea's Rose can be found in the '93 OUSA Annual Collection.  It is also on
Joseph Wu's Home page and I believe the Origami Archives.  It is also on my
book, "Creating Origami", which can be purchased though the OUSA supply
center, and "Fascinating Folds " (http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper)

Good Luck!
J.C. Nolan (LapinPub@aol.com)





Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 21:47:17 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hey, Doug! -- use <h> while in msg2

I tried <h>  and it didn't work.  Other suggestions? Dorigami





Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 22:18:52 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Origami Fonts

Meredith, can we get the diagrams for them?

Laurie Bisman
lbisman@sirranet.co.nz

----------
From:   Meredith Trauner[SMTP:trauner@husc.harvard.edu]
Sent:   Saturday, 3 February 1996 11:06
To:     Multiple recipients of list
Subject:        re: Origami Fonts

I missed the original post about this, but in case anyone is interested,
I made an origami alphabet (from squares, not strips) a few years ago.
(I'm still working on final diagrams for them; I'm up to U,
alphabetically.)  The letters end up as rectangular shapes, with the
letters in color and the background in white.

Meredith Trauner





Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:03:13 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami Page 2

Joseph....I enjoy your philosophical sayings a lot.....Did you know it is
easier to flow through life like a leaf on a stream...downstream. I also
heard a really good one recently.....nature is neither kind nor cruel it is
merely indifferent to suffering.  Dorigami





Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:52:26 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: "dead" folds

>      Don't most of our less-than-successful attempts come out looking
>      rather like dead animals?  That's how I turn origami failure into
>      origami success.  When in doubt, just tell everyone it's a *dead*
>      whatever you were attempting!  :)

It's a serious point you have made - we should all strive for life on our
(animate) folds, at the expense of *all* else (complexity, accuracy etc.)
IMHO.

Nick Robinson





Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 16:27:11 -0400
From: Rich Will Powers <rpowers@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Location of Andreas Rose

Am I doing it wrong, or does andreas rose look nothing like a rose?

rwp
--
    -><-    Richard Powers    -><-    rpowers@panix.com    -><-
