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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 20:21:26 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: Rose

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

>  As you know I pout this rose in my list of ten modern masterpieces.
> But I  need to be clear about which Kawasaki rose is being talked
about.
> The best one I think and the most difficult starts with 16 by 16
square
> set at an angle to the edges of the paper. It also needs a 4
difficult sinks
> which have to be done in 3D. The final locking is very hard. I am
> fortunate in that I was taught in Italy by Kawasaki and then by Silke
Schroeder who
> had learnt it from Kawasaki. I made by own diagrams and had them
checked
> by Silke. Also I was given a rose by Kawasaki and so could ensure
that I had
> got it correct. There is a new simpler version which requires 8 by 8
squares and has no 3
> D sinks. It does have a 4 leaved calex at the base which is rather
nice. The
> techinque of folding is very similar to the 'best' version.
>
> The rose in Kasahara's book is not either of the above two. Kawasaki
said
> to us in Italy that he could not recognise it as his rose. So I don't
> really know where that one came from.
>
John,

Are either of the two roses you mentioned published anywhere?  I am
very interested in flower models, and the rose in Kasahara's book has
so far been my favorite.  I would really like to see these other
versions.

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 21:00:55 -0400
From: terryh@lamg.com (Terry Hall)
Subject: Re: Origami Resources Request

Hi Gretchen,

Your WCOG newsletter, with the Tomoko Fuse list, should arrive either Monday
or Tuesday.

I am also going to try and compile a list of origami resources, organized by
city, so that when on travel they can be visited. Since I only just started I
do  not have very much info, but I will gladly share my list with anyone who
wants it when it has some entries in it.

Terry Hall
terryh@lamg.com





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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 21:39:57 -0400
From: barber@nol.net (Alex Barber)
Subject: [WWW] Web site address

In case anyone has my web site address down as http://nol.net/~barber,
please note you will need to change your bookmark/link to
http://www.nol.net/~barber - just a slight modification at my service
provider's end.

Thanks
Alex Barber

barber@nol.net | http://www.nol.net/~barber
                 http://www.printnet.com/abarber/barber.html

I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
numbered.  My life is my own.





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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 22:17:12 -0400
From: Iron Will Dawes <wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: cicada, guitarist

  As was mentioned by another, Robert Lang's "Origami Insects and
Their Kin" contains a beautiful complex cicada. Also, Lang's "Complete
Book of Origami" contains a cicada from a non-square rectangle.
Giunta's "Origami G'li Insetti" contains an equally lovely and
intricate cicada, as well. Honda Isao's "World of Origami" contains
the so-called "traditional" Japanese origami cicada.
  Please correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Lang, but I think I remember
hearing that Robert Lang's forthcoming "Action Origami" will contain a
guitarist.
                              -Will





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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 23:49:44 -0400
From: johnf@infinity.ccsi.com (John Fisher)
Subject: Functional Origami

I am particularly interested in "practical" or "functional" origami.  Can
anyone offer ideas for useful designs, either instructions or sources?  I
have found Tomoko Fuse's book -Origami Boxes- very satisfying in this
regard but I am hoping to hear of other ideas that put origami to work.

Perhaps not strict origami, but I wish I knew how to turn yesterday's
newspaper into a disposable wastepaper basket.  It would have to be easy
and fast and look reasonably good.  Any ideas?





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 01:26:25 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Chinese folk art question

Hi all -

Could use some help - a friend in my group had a question that I couldn't
answer. She has a copy of the book "Chinese Folk Art II" which has a
sub-title of "In American Collections, from Early 15th Century to Early 20th
Century". The book's author is Tseng Yu-ho Ecke. On page 142, of this edition,
there is a picture of, I believe, 8 pointed stars origami stars that are pasted
onto a background sheet. The caption reads (and I paraphrase) the 16 folded
designs resembling octagonal rosettes are pasted onto one sheet. the design,
     used in textiles and patchworks using leftover material stitched together
     as
quilts.

I know that is pretty sketchy, but does anyone have any idea which model it
might be? I have seen some that are similar, but not quite the same. I wish I
had looked at it a little closer, so that I could give you a better description
of the model itself. (we were in a little bit of a hurry)

Any help would be appreciated and I will try to see if I can find a copy of the
book at the library so I can get a better description of the model itself.

Thanks bunches!

Dee
blunch@du.edu





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 02:18:31 -0400
From: Bob Nienhuis <IBFIRBN@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Functional Origami

Florence Temko's Paper Folded, Cut and Sculpted contains a waste paper
basket model on p. 76. Looks like it might be functional!

Bob Nienhuis
ibfirbnAmvs.oac.ucla.edu

------------------------------TEXT-OF-YOUR-MAIL--------------------------------

> From: johnf@INFINITY.CCSI.COM(John Fisher)
>
> I am particularly interested in "practical" or "functional" origami.
>
> Perhaps not strict origami, but I wish I knew how to turn yesterday's
> newspaper into a disposable wastepaper basket.  It would have to be easy
> and fast and look reasonably good.  Any ideas?





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:03:48 -0400
From: "Weinstein, Michael" <michaelw@bdg10.niddk.nih.gov>
Subject: functional origami

-I am particularly interested in "practical" or "functional" origami.  Can
-anyone offer ideas for useful designs, either instructions or sources?  I
-have found Tomoko Fuse's book -Origami Boxes- very satisfying in this
-regard but I am hoping to hear of other ideas that put origami to work.

-Perhaps not strict origami, but I wish I knew how to turn yesterday's
-newspaper into a disposable wastepaper basket.  It would have to be easy
-and fast and look reasonably good.  Any ideas?

Sometime back Mark Kennedy showed me a pouch, which has since been published,
for carrying origami paper (the pouch is actually ideal for enclosing just
about any rectangular object, and makes a really cool business card holder).
The twist that Mark introduced was he made pouches from non-vinyl wallpaper,
in order to make them longer-wearing.

I can attest to the utility of this, as I have one pouch that has lasted for
years, has followed me through two moves from the West Coast, and even took
an extensive motorcycle journey with me through Mexico.  The thing's more
indestructible than the energizer bunny.

I have also made very durable wallets (suggested to me by Jeff Fryman of
Cincinnati) from the stuff.  I imagine there are other "functional" objects
that can be made from wallpaper.

Another set of functional origami models are letterfolds.  I haven't used an
envelope in years.  There are numerous good letterfolds "around" (convention
programs, newsletters etc...), and they're not even that hard to invent.
There are no doubt other highly functional origami models that the other
members of the list will provide.  Good luck.





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:31:23 -0400
From: Oded Streigold <benjic@netvision.net.il>
Subject: RE: origami cicada

>   Does anyone know of a book that shows how to fold a cicada?
>
>                                                Kellie

There is a cicada in "Origami Omnibus" by Kunihiko Kasahara.
Also There is one in "Origami Insects" by Yoshihide Momotani.
Both are rather simple.
I like "Origami Insects" a lot, because it shows great realistic
insects, which are simple to intermediate to fold. This is achieve
by taking a modular approach - for example: An ant from five papers.
There are also a scorpion (5 sheets), a spider, a praying mantis and
their like. The cicada is one piece though.

  Oded (Email: benjic@netvision.net.il)





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:55:05 -0400
From: kkinney@med.unc.edu (Kevin Kinney)
Subject: Re: Mythology and Chinese Zodiac

> I have a new book that should be ready in March titled Mythological Creatures
> and the Chinese Zodiac in Origami.
>
> In the mythology section there is a unicorn, Pegasus, Western dragon, wyvern,
> and several others. The book ends with two four star (very complex)
> models-the Chimera with three heads (snake, lion, and goat) along with wings
> and a three-headed dragon (each head with open mouth and horns).
>
> John Montroll

Yes!  At last! The only thing I enjoy folding more than realistic looking
animals is realistic-looking animals that don't actually exist.  Thank
you, thank you, thank you.

(And a public thanks for all the hours of joyful frustration John
Montroll's models have already given me, while I'm at it!)

Kevin Kinney
kkinney@med.unc.edu





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:27:15 -0400
From: dzimm@nando.net (David Zimmerman)
Subject: Re: Mythology and Chinese Zodiac

"> Kevin Kinney wrote ..."
>
>  ... realistic-looking animals that don't actually exist.  Thank
>
I could point out that if the animal doesn't exist, then any guess as to
its appearence can be as realistic as your imagination allows,

but I wont.  ;-}

--
David P Zimmerman             dzimm@nando.net    (http://pathos.widget.com/tofu)
916 Riderwood Ct               919 557 7692
WillowSpring NC 27592           D-17293

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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:57:39 -0400
From: JRMetzger@aol.com
Subject: Re:  functional origami

In a message dated 96-01-22 08:44:07 EST, you write:

> Sometime back Mark Kennedy showed me a pouch, which has since been
published

Where, exactly? Don't leave us hanging, please. Thanks.

Yaacov





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:34:01 -0400
From: Jim Hollister 512-356-7027 <Jim.Hollister@sematech.org>
Subject: Rose questions

          Several people have suggested the Kawasaki rose for my Valentine's
          Day project. Can anyone tell me where I can get folding
          instructions for it? Is this the same Kawasaki rose described in
          "Origami for the Connoisseur"? I'd heard that this book was out of
          print but the bookstore I visited told me they could get it in
          about a week.

          In the meantime I found a rose in "Classic Origami" by P.D. Tuyen
          and a leaf in "The Great Origami Book" by Ayture-Scheele. I'll work
          on those until I find out more about the Kawasaki rose.





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 13:00:43 -0400
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.com
Subject: Re: origami cicada

kellie and all,,,

>    Does anyone know of a book that shows how to fold a cicada?
> (I've never even seen a real cicada - for which I'm thankful -
> but want it to go with a quote about a cicada).
>    Thankyou so much for any help anyone can give me.
>
>                                                           Kellie
the first model i ever memorized was a cicada
from hideaki sakata's book "origami"

it's a simple -- but i believe effective -- model

the book is the very first origami book i ever purchased

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-=-=-=-                     MAKE THINGS HAPPEN                          -=-=-=-
-=-=-=- jack thomas weres                        jtweres@psp.ih.att.com -=-=-=-





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:58:34 -0400
From: Jim Hollister 512-356-7027 <Jim.Hollister@sematech.org>
Subject: Cicada inquiry

   Kellie,

   I just ran the OriIndex program searching for "cicada" and got the attached
   output.

   Jim Hollister <jim.hollister@sematech.org>

   ###########################################################################

         OriIndex  (V.2.0  941027) ___________________________ (c) Maarten van
   Gelder

             Key(s):  CICADA

         Models:

         Bug (cicada)
            Creator: traditional
            Book: Paper Pandas and Jumping Frogs   page 72   By: Temko Florence
            Begin w/ a sq folding into helmet base
            Level: S   6 steps
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         Cicada
            Creator: traditional
            Book: Art of Origami   page 30   By: Randlett Samuel
            Begin w/ a sq folding into helmet base
            Level: S   6 steps
            This model works well with duo paper
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         Cicada
            Creator: traditional
            Book: Secrets of Origami   page 38   By: Harbin Robert
            Begin w/ a sq folding into helmet base
            Level: S   7 steps
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         Cicada
            Creator: Robert Lang   Diagrams: Lang, Robert
            Book: Complete Book of Origami   page 104   By: Lang Robert
            Begin w/ a 1:2.5 folding into waterbomb base
            Level: C   75 steps   Folds: rq precision folding
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         Cicada
            Creator: Akira Yoshizawa
            Book: Origami Museum I: Animals   page 17   By: Yoshizawa Akira
            Begin w/ a sq folding into landmarking base
            Level: L   7 steps
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         Cicada
            Creator: traditional
            Book: Origami   page 42   By: Sakata Hideaki
            Begin w/ a sq folding into helmet base
            Level: S   7 steps
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         Cicada
            Creator: traditional
             Book: Japan's Creative Origami   page 52   By: Kawai Toyoaki
            Begin w/ a sq folding into helmet base
            Level: S   8 steps
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         Cicada
            Creator: T. Kawai
            Book: Japan's Creative Origami   page 53   By: Kawai Toyoaki
            Begin w/ a sq folding into helmet base
            Level: M   10 steps   Folds: rev,crimp
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         Cicada
            Creator: Kunihiko Kasahara
            Book: Origami Omnibus   page 256   By: Kasahara Kunihiko
            Begin w/ a sq folding into blintz base
            Level: I   16 steps   Folds: precrease,po,cc,pleat
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         Cicada
            Creator: Toyoaki Kawai
            Book: Colorful Origami   page 36   By: Kawai Toyoaki
            Begin w/ a sq folding into diagonal base
            Level: S   7 steps   Folds: sq
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         Cicada
            Creator: John Montroll
            Book: Easy Origami   page 25   By: Montroll John
            Begin w/ a sq folding into helmet base
            Level: S   8 steps
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         Cicada (a)
            Creator: Toshie Takahama
            Book: Origami for Fun   page 4   By: Takahama Toshie
            Begin w/ a sq folding into landmarking base
            Level: S   05 steps
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         Cicada (b)
            Creator: Toshie Takahama
            Book: Origami for Fun   page 4   By: Takahama Toshie
            Begin w/ a sq folding into landmarking base
            Level: S   04 steps
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         La Cicala (cicada)
            Creator: Alfredo Giunta
            Book: Origami gli Insetti   page 15   By: Giunta Alfredo
            Begin w/ a sq folding into landmarking base

            Level: S   12 steps   Folds: rev
            Keywords: animal  insect  cicada

         Books:

         Origami gli Insetti                  Author: Giunta Alfredo
            Publisher: il Castello   Country: Milan, Italy
            Date: 1987   Language: IT
            ISBN:                 Binding: pap   102 pages
            26 models   Level: I-C   Theme: insects

         Secrets of Origami                   Author: Harbin Robert
            Publisher: Hamlyn
            Date: 1974   Language: ENG
            ISBN: 0600381099      Binding: HB   79 pages
            128 models   Level: M-C   Theme: general

         Origami Omnibus                      Author: Kasahara Kunihiko
            Publisher: Japan Publications   Country: Japan
            Date: 1988   Language: ENG   Copyright owner: Kunihiko Kasahara,
     1988
            ISBN: 0-87040-696-5   Binding: HB   384 pages
            135 models   Level: S-C   Theme: general
            Comments beyond standard intro

         Japan's Creative Origami             Author: Kawai Toyoaki
            Publisher: Barnes & Noble   Country: New York
            Date: 1983   Language: ENG   Copyright owner: Ottenheimer
     Publishers,
   1983
            ISBN: 0-06-464073-6   Binding: pap   123 pages
            64 models   Level: S-I   Theme: general

         Colorful Origami                     Author: Kawai Toyoaki
            Publisher: Ottenheimer Publishers, Inc   Country: Japan
            Date: 1983   Language: ENG   Copyright owner: Ottenheimer
     Publishers,
   Inc
            ISBN: 0-06-464074-4   Binding: pap   135 pages
            64 models   Level: S-I   Theme: general

         Complete Book of Origami             Author: Lang Robert
            Publisher: St. Martin's Press   Country: New York
            Date: 1990   Language: ENG   Copyright owner: Robert Lang and
     Stephen
   Weiss
            ISBN: 0-312-04015-6   Binding: pap   165 pages
            38 models   Level: I-C   Theme: ann=imals
            Comments beyond standard intro

         Easy Origami                         Author: Montroll John
            Publisher: Dover Publications, Inc.   Country: New York
            Date: 1992   Language: Eng   Copyright owner: John Montroll, 1992
            ISBN: 0-486-27298-2   Binding: pap   47 pages
            31 models   Level: S-M   Theme: general

         Art of Origami                       Author: Randlett Samuel
            Language: ENG
            ISBN:
            57 models   Level: M-H   Theme: General

         Origami                              Author: Sakata Hideaki
            Publisher: Graph-sha Ltd   Country: Tokyo
            Date: 1984   Language: ENG   Copyright owner: Graph-sha Ltd, 1984
            ISBN: 0-87040-580-2   Binding: pap   66 pages
            36 models   Level: S   Theme: general

         Origami for Fun                      Author: Takahama Toshie
            Publisher: Shufunotomo colk LTD   Country: Tokyo
            Language: ENG
            ISBN:                 62 pages
            30 models   Level: S-I   Theme: general

         Paper Pandas and Jumping Frogs       Author: Temko Florence
            Publisher: China Books   Country: San Frnacisco, CA
            Date: 1986   Language: ENG   Copyright owner: Florence Temko, 1986
            ISBN: 0-8351-1770-7   Binding: pap   135 pages
            43 models   Level: S   Theme: general

         Origami Museum I: Animals            Author: Yoshizawa Akira
            Publisher: Kamakura Shobo Publishing Co   Country: Tokyo
            Date: 1987   Language: ENG   Copyright owner: Akira Yoshizawa, 1987
            ISBN: 0-87040-737-6   Binding: pap   78 pages
            38 models   Level: L-H   Theme: animals

         OriIndex ________________________ Stop ______________ (c) Maarten van
   Gelder





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:08:55 -0400
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Eric Kenneway  ABC of Origami

In addition to his "Complete Origami", Eric Kenneway wrote a column in the
BOS magazine, going from A to Z, there are all sorts of intriguing
pieces of information. All these columns have been assembled into a single
booklet, together with some updates by John Smith and others. This new
booklet is available from BOS Supplies. It is every bit as fascinating as
"Complete Origami" (but it does not contain any models). If I was having
to assemble a set of trivial pursuit questions for origami, this would be
my first source.

Richard K.
(R.A.Kennedy@birmingham.ac.uk)





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:35:25 -0400
From: CM317@aol.com
Subject: "The Paper" - Origami USA

   I just got my first issue today, and I was wondering if FALL 1995 is the
newest issue.

Thanx To all that reply.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
<>Chris Miller                                                <>
<>cm317@aol.com                                        <>
<>8th Grade Student At Harshman M.S.          <>





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:36:48 -0400
From: CM317@aol.com
Subject: New Origami FAQ

   I think that we shoud redo the Origami FAQ that is on the archives.  I'd
be willing to redo it with input from other origamians.  So if you have any
suggestions, which would be greatly appreciated, e-mail tehm to me privately
or on the list.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
<>Chris Miller                                                        <>
<>Student - Harshman M.S.                                   <>
<>e-mail - Cm317@aol.com                                   <>





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:43:19 -0400
From: Maumoy@aol.com
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI-L digest 218

Some responses to Digest 218:

I use a paper cup folded out of tabloid newspaper or doubled standard sheets
folded into a square as a waste receptacle on the train or in the car.  See
Kenneway's Complete Origami pg 48 for info on making a more stable version.
 Kenneway mentions the cup was also included in an airforce survival manual.

There's a traditional Japanese cicada on pg 38 of Harbin's Secrets of
Origami.  Also on that page is a Japanese Purse discovered by John Nordquist.
 Several years ago I was shown this model used as a 3" diskette cover.  Steve
Buck very patiently figured out how it was folded.  It was only later, much
later, that I found it in Secrets.

Re Chinese paper folds:

My copy of The Art of Chinese Paper Folding by Maying Soong was published in
1948 by Harcourt, Brace and Co, NY.  This copy was purchased used:  it was
deaccessioned by the J. I. Carter Jr. High School Library in Arlington, TX.
 Does this school still exist?

Soong Maying (Mei-ling) was born in 1898.  She would have only been 15 when
John Smith's copy was published.  In the 1948 edition's foreward, she
mentions having a daughter old enough to appreciate paperfolding.  Soong
Maying is the widow of Chiang Kai-Shek.  She now lives in New York State.

I was shown the old scholar's hat and monkey (also in the Soong book) by Mr.
Fu-Chi Chen, Chief Engineer of  Taiwan's Military Construction Service.  He
sat next to me on a
flight from DC to Kansas City.  He later sent me several books published in
Taiwan.

My husband's great niece taught me a lion's head which she learned in
Vietnam.  Purists, avert your eyes, it involves two cuts.

A relative in Hawaii sent me a 18 piece sunflower/lampshade which resembles a
troublewit.  It is cut and glued from rectangular joss papers stamped with
prosperity, longevity, and double happiness characters.  According to
Kenneway's Complete Origami, these symbols represent Taoist deities used in
celebrating the new year.  Sy Chen thought the paper and characters a really
strange combination.  Ray Blackburn and CHAOS members figured out how it was
made.  Any ideas on the purpose of this model?

I think of Chinese folds as symmetrical and generally starting from a blintz
(should it be egg roll or won ton) base.  The Shanghai Star, which I found in
1985 in Shanghai, typefies this.  But there are other folds which include
curves such as funerary nuggets and the round Szechuan compartmented dish
(Randlett's The Best of Origami and Jackson's Classic Origami).

I have two books published in Hong Kong by the Man Kwong Co. in 1983 and
1990.  Price of the 1983 book was HK$3.50, about 50 cents US.  Very simple,
mostly traditional models including two versions of a cicada in the 1990
book.  The cover shows  two other books in the same series (my guess since I
don't read Chinese).

Marcia Mau
Maumoy@aol.com





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:44:46 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: The Paper - Origami USA

 I got the Winter issue last Saturday

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:45:54 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re:  functional origami

I saw in a book just the other day that is is possible to make some of the
self closing wallets and purse with thin dampened leather! I don't know of a
leather working store, but I'd love to try it! Has anyone else? Imagine making
your own leather wallets for gifts - sounds like going back to camp!





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:54:59 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re:  functional origami

Mark Kennedy's pouch, which was referred to earlier was published in the Summer/
Fall 1990 FOCA (now OUSA) Newsletter (now magazine). I don't know if this
particular issue is available still - I saw a list recently of the ones that
are. I am sure you can get in touch with Phyliss Meth and find out for sure!

I'll ask Mark next time I talk to him if the pouch has been published elsewhere
because I don't believe he is on this list.

Dee





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 21:06:23 -0400
From: dragon@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Subject: OUSA Convention Dates

Hi, I am planning to attend the OUSA convention and I was wondering if
anyone has the dates yet.  I am hoping to book my airfare soon so that I
can hopefully get some cheaper rates.  Thanks in advance for your reply.





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 21:09:54 -0400
From: dragon@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Subject: Re: Eric Kenneway ABC of Origami-Tangent

Wouldn't it be interesting to to design a trivial pursuit game on
Origami.  I wonder how much interest there would be???

On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Richard Kennedy wrote:

> In addition to his "Complete Origami", Eric Kenneway wrote a column in the
> BOS magazine, going from A to Z, there are all sorts of intriguing
> pieces of information. All these columns have been assembled into a single
> booklet, together with some updates by John Smith and others. This new
> booklet is available from BOS Supplies. It is every bit as fascinating as
> "Complete Origami" (but it does not contain any models). If I was having
> to assemble a set of trivial pursuit questions for origami, this would be
> my first source.
>
> Richard K.
> (R.A.Kennedy@birmingham.ac.uk)





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 21:16:14 -0400
From: Gretchen Klotz <gren@agora.rdrop.com>
Subject: Re: Functional Origami

On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, John Fisher wrote:

> Perhaps not strict origami, but I wish I knew how to turn yesterday's
> newspaper into a disposable wastepaper basket.  It would have to be easy
> and fast and look reasonably good.  Any ideas?

I'll play loose with the definitions of "practical" and "funtional" since
you didn't give us much to go on (Tom H., do I sound like a Hampshire
alum? ;-).

Consider _Lifestyle Origami_ by Jay Ansill for a well-roundeed selection
of objects (napkin rings, letter folds, dishes, photo frames, etc.).
There are several books that focus on holiday decorations (Jackson's
_Festive Folding_, among others) and parties (Kobayashi and Yamaguchi's
_Origami for Parties_).  Someone has already mentioned books of letter
folds -- Overmars has 2 books on this topic, Temko has a booklet for
"secret messages."  Florence Temko also has a book on _Paper Jewelry_.
Frances Ow's heart books might fall within your specifications (I just saw
the new one at a bookstore yesterday -- GORGEOUS!!!).  Flat folds for
making greeting cards can be found in Asahi's _Origami Greeting Cards_.
And there's always a range of books on kusudama if you think tree
ornaments are practical (though they can be more time-consuming than
boxes).  Gay Merrill Gross's books always have some neat things in them.

Please note than I haven't seen all of these books; some of the info is
out of the OUSA supply list so I can't give an opinion.

- Gretchen

--
gren@agora.rdrop.com         http://admin.ogi.edu/~gren/





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 22:29:23 -0400
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (S.Y. Chen)
Subject: Re: OUSA Convention Dates

In the Winter issue of Origami USA I just found the convention date:
28-30th Jun '96

Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. SY)
E-Mail: chens@iia.org or sychen@enh.nist.gov
Origami Page - http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 22:29:59 -0400
From: "Na. (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi)" <nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp>
Subject: Re: irritating

Hello,

Necessary quotations will be granted even if they were entire
quotation.  I saw many messages followed by unnecessarily long
and unedited quotation in this list.

Writer's minute save each reader's minute; thus about 400 minutes
would be saved in this list.  And also the list will save mmembers
dropping out because of storage overflow.

Paraphrasing the message is one of good manners.  At least I
expect writers to extract necessary paragraphs or phrases.
It is recommended as a netiquette in many networks.

--
nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi, not Kenichi Nakanishi)





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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 23:17:02 -0400
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Yoshizawa's Ice Skater

There is an ice skater model in Yoshizawa's book Dukuhon II (ISBN
4-308-00400-4).  The skates are made from a square 1/6th the size of the long
length of the bird base of the model and (judging from reading the diagrams,
I folded one yet) the skate/foot lock looks pretty effective.

The skaters are shown on a surface, but I can't tell from the picture if
they stand on their own or not.  They are also shown hanging on a mobile.

-Doug





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 03:44:56 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: The Paper - e-mail contact wanted

Hi all, I've diagrammed "my" lock to the unknown letterfold in The
Paper  (Winter 95). I've known of this fold for some time (but not
the author!) & added the lock. I'd like to e-mail a UU file of the
diagrams; who of the online people is best placed to pass it on to
the magazine?

I'm a little surprised the Yanks haven't got an e-mail address for the
mag yet....

Thanks,

Nick Robinson

ps. Philip Shen is now on-line at; philipshen@cuhk.hk & would be
pleased to hear from any geometrically-minded folders





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 03:49:50 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: guitar model?

As a guitarist, I don't rate *any* of those I've seen - how about a
Stratocaster (with tremolo arm & dot-markers) as a challenge?

Nick Robinson





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 04:29:35 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Sound making folds.

Try some of Robert or John's efforts - the sound is "aarrrghh" followed
by ripping paper ;)

Nick Robinson





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:26:05 -0400
From: Troy Tate <supertroy@wc2.tdh.state.tx.us>
Subject: Origami Cartoon

I hope this is not out of place here, but yesterday's (January 22)
Austin American-Statesman newspaper contained a "political" cartoon
referencing ORIGAMI.  I hope this description is vivid enough so you
can enjoy the irony.

There's a small cottage with children playing out back on a slide.
The cottage has a sign saying HILLARY'S IT TAKES A VILLAGE CHILD
CARE.  A likeness of Hillary Clinton is standing at the door of the
cottage waving to a mother taking her child home.  The child is
saying, "And we made origami out of some old files."  He is holding a
crane that says Whitewater and Rose Law on the wings.

This cartoon is by Signe Wilkinson.  I wonder if other papers in the
country carried this cartoon.  I hope you enjoyed the satire as much
as I did.  BTW, this is not a political comment on my part but just
relating the information to the list.

Have a great day!

Troy
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Troy Tate, CNE
Cutler/Williams, Inc.
Texas Department of Health
512-458-7355 x3118
ttate@wc2.tdh.state.tx.us
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Avoiding those who are "technically
competent but have a charisma bypass".





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:28:06 -0400
From: Mike Kennon <mkennon@nando.net>
Subject: RE: Origami Cartoon

The cartoon was in the Raleigh, NC  News & Observor last week. I enjoyed the
cartoon as well.

-------------------------------------
Name: Mike Kennon
E-mail: mkennon@nando.net
Date: 01/23/96
Time: 10:17:08
-------------------------------------

>I hope this is not out of place here, but yesterday's (January 22)
>Austin American-Statesman newspaper contained a "political" cartoon
>referencing ORIGAMI.  I hope this description is vivid enough so you
>can enjoy the irony.
>
>There's a small cottage with children playing out back on a slide.
>The cottage has a sign saying HILLARY'S IT TAKES A VILLAGE CHILD
>CARE.  A likeness of Hillary Clinton is standing at the door of the
>cottage waving to a mother taking her child home.  The child is
>saying, "And we made origami out of some old files."  He is holding a
>crane that says Whitewater and Rose Law on the wings.
>
>This cartoon is by Signe Wilkinson.  I wonder if other papers in the
>country carried this cartoon.  I hope you enjoyed the satire as much
>as I did.  BTW, this is not a political comment on my part but just
>relating the information to the list.
>
>Have a great day!
>
>Troy
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Troy Tate, CNE
>Cutler/Williams, Inc.
>Texas Department of Health
>512-458-7355 x3118
>ttate@wc2.tdh.state.tx.us
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>Avoiding those who are "technically
>competent but have a charisma bypass".





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 14:16:24 -0400
From: pearl2@earthlink.net (Barbara Pearl)
Subject: Re: Origami Cartoon

I enjoyed the cartoon too! Can I send you a SASE to send me a copy it?
Please send me your address. Thank you, Barbara

>I hope this is not out of place here, but yesterday's (January 22)
>Austin American-Statesman newspaper contained a "political" cartoon
>referencing ORIGAMI.  I hope this description is vivid enough so you
>can enjoy the irony.
>
>There's a small cottage with children playing out back on a slide.
>The cottage has a sign saying HILLARY'S IT TAKES A VILLAGE CHILD
>CARE.  A likeness of Hillary Clinton is standing at the door of the
>cottage waving to a mother taking her child home.  The child is
>saying, "And we made origami out of some old files."  He is holding a
>crane that says Whitewater and Rose Law on the wings.
>
>This cartoon is by Signe Wilkinson.  I wonder if other papers in the
>country carried this cartoon.  I hope you enjoyed the satire as much
>as I did.  BTW, this is not a political comment on my part but just
>relating the information to the list.
>
>Have a great day!
>
>Troy
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Troy Tate, CNE
>Cutler/Williams, Inc.
>Texas Department of Health
>512-458-7355 x3118
>ttate@wc2.tdh.state.tx.us
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>Avoiding those who are "technically
>competent but have a charisma bypass".

#############################################################################
MATH IN MOTION...where every child counts!
                                   Barbara Pearl
                                Pearl2@earthlink.net
                       2417 Vista Hogar, Newport Beach, Ca  92660
                              Phone/Fax: (714) 721-0633





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 14:19:26 -0400
From: pearl2@earthlink.net (Barbara Pearl)
Subject: Re:  functional origami

As a vegetarian, I still prefer paper :-), Barbara

>I saw in a book just the other day that is is possible to make some of the
>self closing wallets and purse with thin dampened leather! I don't know of a
>leather working store, but I'd love to try it! Has anyone else? Imagine making
>your own leather wallets for gifts - sounds like going back to camp!

#############################################################################
MATH IN MOTION...where every child counts!
                                   Barbara Pearl
                                Pearl2@earthlink.net
                       2417 Vista Hogar, Newport Beach, Ca  92660
                              Phone/Fax: (714) 721-0633





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 14:39:09 -0400
From: Maumoy@aol.com
Subject: Origami Cartoon

The cartoon mentioned by Trish appeared in The Washington Post, pg A19 on
January 13.  It is credited to Signe Wilkinson for The Philadelphia Daily
News.  It was especially interesting to me becuz I worked for FDIC and RTC.

Marcia Mau





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:44:22 -0400
From: ACPQUINN@myriad.middlebury.edu
Subject: Brilliant origami?

Greetings all -
Does anyone have David Brill's new book, Brilliant Origami?
I am wondering if this is a worthwhile investment for a complex folder such as
myself...
reviews anyone?
Alasdair
acpquinn@myriad.middlebury.edu





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 17:49:01 -0400
From: CM317@aol.COM
Subject: Re: OUSA Convention Dates

How much does it cost to attend, minus the airfare?

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
<>Chris Miller                                                <>
<>cm317@aol.com                                        <>
<>8th Grade Student At Harshman M.S.          <>





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 18:25:28 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Published & unpublished wallets for you..

I had a fairly functional wallet published in the FOCA magazine a couple of
years ago & just invented another - text to follow (!)

1) square, colour down. Crease in half both ways & fold two opposite sides to
the centre forming 1/4 creases. Turn the paper to unfold a 1/4 crease a
have that side nearest to you.

2) fold the two nearest corners to the centre & unfold.

3) fold the same two corners in 1/2 the distance, ie. to where the 1/4 crease
intersects the crease in step 2

4) exactly 1/2 of the original raw edge still faces you (the middle 1/2!). Fold
1/2 of that(!) at 22.5 degrees to line up with a crease made in step 2. Repeat.

5) now refold the creases made in step 2, turn over

6) fold in the right & left sides to the centre crease.

7) fold the edge opposite the point to the centre & tuck the point up within it.

8) turn over - complete.

It should be a wallet with two nicely shaped flaps to hold credit cards etc. If
you have *really* struggled, I can send UU diags on request. Oh yes, let me know
if this already exisits - there is always that possibility with simple designs!

Nick Robinson





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 18:43:04 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: My Wallet

Just for clarification, my Wallet appeared in the Winter 91 FOCA Newsletter

Nick Robinson





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 20:57:05 -0400
From: CM317@aol.com
Subject: Ghostscript

 I have been having big problems with ghostscript:

I have downloaded the one of the ftp site, I have downloaded v 3.51, 3.33 and
none of them have worked.  My laserjet or my dot printer are no postscript
compatible, and unless a fax machine can print postscript files, I'm
doomed...

Any suggestions?

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
<>Chris Miller                                                <>
<>cm317@aol.com                                        <>
<>8th Grade Student At Harshman M.S.          <>





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 23:31:44 -0400
From: PASSMOREHE@rascal.guilford.edu
Subject: RE: Origami Cartoon

I find it funny that Signe Wilkinson's cartoon has been being discussed
on Origami-l today, because I had the pleasure of hearing her speak, adn
having dinner with her yesterday while she was here to participate in
a panal discussion here at guilford college.  I have not yet had a chance
to see the cartoon, but am amazed at the timeing of your message.
I am always impressed by all the places origami appears.
thanks,
-hanna





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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 23:51:04 -0400
From: hull@hypatia.math.uri.edu
Subject: Crumpled paper!

Howdee everyone!

        It seems that more origami applications in the physical
sciences are emerging from the underbrush.  Apparently studying
how surfaces *crumple* under stress is an important step in
understanding many different physical properties.
        But I'm a mathematician, not a physicist!  But everyone
who's interested in learning more about this movement should
check out Prof. Houle of Cornell University's web site:

        http://www.msc.cornell.edu/~houle/crumpling/

        This web site was kindly pointed out to me by Ivars Peterson
of Science News, who's always on the lookout for fun math things
to write about.  Enjoy!

--------- Tom "all those boulders really meant something" Hull





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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 00:15:10 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Paper Resource

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

The 1996 Winter Supplement catalog I just received from Dick Blick (800-
447-8192; http://www.cencom.net/~blick) included the following papers:

Thai 3-dimensional paper, 40lb, 25"x37" sheets, $2.25 each

India Silk Paper, 100lb, 22"x30" sheets, $1.95 each

Thai Chiri paper, 35lb, 25"x37" sheets, $1.35 each

Thai banana paper, 6-lb, 25"x37" sheets, $1.35 each

Echizen washi paper, 165lb, 31"x43" sheets, $3.50-$5.50 depending on
color

Thai reversibles, 56lb, 23"x35" sheets. $2.90 each.  This may be
particularly interesting for origami since the two sides are different
colors.

Has anyone tried these papers?  If so, what was your opinion?

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 00:30:26 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Origami Software

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

The February 1996 Family Fun magazine I received has a review of a PC
CD-ROM called Paperopolis.  Here is the description:

"Three cheers for recognizing that one of the best toys ever invented
is a piece of paper.  This hilarious CD-ROMS's guide, Ted the Toad,
steers kids through hundreds of paper-based activities that they can
print out, color, and then fold, spindle, and multilate to their
heart's content.  It's all here: origami animals, whirligigs, sailboats,
flowers, secret decoders, fortune-tellers, puzzles, masks, dolls, hats,
and reams more.  Drag out the markers and keep a fresh printer
cartridge handy - and watch out for low-flying planes.  (Virgin Sound
and Vision, $35)."

Any reviews?

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 00:59:03 -0400
From: MJNAUGHTON@amherst.edu
Subject: OR Origami Levels

V'Ann said recently:

> I'm listening intently for observations about
> defining difficulty levels for modulars. The
> concerns are well stated.
> Another issue is the characteristic of a form.
> Some are of a type that will allow variation.
> One unit can be learned and using 6, or 12, or 64
> etc, will enable something of interest.
> Other modulars need to be used in only one form.

I have spent a good deal of time making and teaching
modulars (I'm the guy who gives the Sonobe and Water-
bomb base module workshops at the OUSA conventions),
and I've never found this an easy question to answer.
The bottom line seems to be that the same modular can
be hard for one person and easy for another, so I don't
think there necessarily is a _right_ answer. Some people
find folding easy but putting together hard; some are
the other way around.

Number of modules in a model can be a clue, but it isn't
always a good one. I think the 6-piece Sonobe cube is
easier for a beginner than the 3-piece "Toshie's Jewel",
for example, and I think the 30-piece water-bomb base
star is easier than the 24-piece. Usually, progessing up
the ladder is easier than starting out at the top (the
beginner shouldn't start with the 192-piece model), but
I've seen people bypass 6- and 12-piece models to start
right out at 30 pieces with great success. Perhaps the
greatest predictive factor is "desire to succeed", and
for that reason I try never to discourage anyone who has
his or her heart set on doing something.

I usually solve the problem of level definition by calling
everything "intermediate", which I think is an obvious cop-
out. But I also think that the concept of "levels" has only
limited usefulness anyway, so we shouldn't get too hung up
about it. Who cares if they call it simple or complex -- if
you really like it, fold it!

While I'm on my soap box here, that brings me to one of my
pet peeves: the discouragement of "getting in over your
head" at the OUSA conventions. I understand the reasoning,
I think, but I think there is a counter-argument -- after
all, isn't getting in over one's head a good way to learn
quickly, especially in an environment full of talented
people? Sitting alone with a book is one thing, but in a
room full of paper folders shouldn't we be encouraging
people to take a few risks? If we're going to get all uptight
because the person next to us is slowing everybody down,
haven't we lost some of the spirit of sharing? I'm laying
all this out because I'm curious what other people think. . .

Mike "Doesn't quite know when to shut up" Naughton





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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 03:52:57 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: OUSA Convention Dates

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> Subject: Re: OUSA Convention Dates
>
> How much does it cost to attend, minus the airfare?

I don't know for sure what this year's fees will be, but last year was
$50 for one day (including the Annual Collection), and $80 for 2 days
(including the Annual Collection).  There were also options to not
include the collection for $20 less (for instance, if multiple members
of the same family were attending, but you only wanted one copy of the
collection), or to just order a "sorry I can't attend" package (the
Annual collection, paper, t-shirt, button, attendee list, handouts, etc)
for $40.  The reception dinner was extra, as was travel and housing
expenses.

I expect increased publishing costs this year may drive up the cost of
the annual collection and hence some of the above mentioned prices.

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:40:30 -0400
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: National Art Competition

Hi all,
        I found this posting in the alt.arts.origami newsgroup and I know
that some of us don't have access to the newsgroup, so I thought I might
forward it here.

Here it goes:

From: InfoNET <tfmb@infonetwww.com>

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open to all artists living in the United States. Musuem Curator and
Visual Artist, Noel Korten from the Municipal Gallery in Barnsdall Art
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:46:57 -0400
From: Troy Tate <supertroy@wc2.tdh.state.tx.us>
Subject: Asian Dragons

My daughter just got her February 1996 issue of National Geographic
World magazine yesterday and it had an article titled Asia's Good
Luck Dragons by Christina Wildson.  Since there was a thread last
week about dragons, I  thought I would relate a few of the details in
the article.

"Unlike the usually fearsome, fire-breathing dragons of Western
legends, the dragons of ancient Chinese myth are kind and wise.  They
are the keepers of rivers, seas and oceans and the deliverers of
rain.  Chinese stories tell how dragons rise from their underwater
homes into the sky, where they step on clouds to press out rain."
This reference to the dragons underwater home is also related to the
Dragon Boat Festival held in Hong Kong every June.

A picture of an apartment building is shown in the article with this
caption:  "A giant hole in a Hong Kong apartment building keeps the
sea within sight of a mountain.  In Chinese mythology every mountain
holds a dragon, and blocking the dragon's view would bring bad luck."

Concerning the four vs five toe dragon, the article has the following
information:  "Chinese rulers once surrounded themselves with images
of the mythical king of beasts.  Images of emperor's dragons flashed
five gleaming claws on each foot.  Everybody else had to settle for a
dragon image that had only four toes."

This article was very interesting and had very colorful pictures of
dragons.  I hope this has broadened your knowledge as it has mine.

Troy
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Troy Tate, CNE
Cutler/Williams, Inc.
Texas Department of Health
512-458-7355 x3118
ttate@wc2.tdh.state.tx.us
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Avoiding those who are "technically
competent but have a charisma bypass".





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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 10:47:17 -0400
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Subject: Re: Paper Resource

At 12:28 AM 1/24/96 -0400, you wrote:
>-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
>
>The 1996 Winter Supplement catalog I just received from Dick Blick (800-
>447-8192; http://www.cencom.net/~blick) included the following papers:
>
>
>Thai banana paper, 6-lb, 25"x37" sheets, $1.35 each
>
Janet, is this a typo? 6 lb?

---------------------------------------------------
Sy Chen <sychen@enh.nist.gov>
Origami Page - http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm





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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:14:02 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Brilliant origami?

> Does anyone have David Brill's new book, Brilliant Origami?

Unlikely, since it's not been release yet! Tentatively within a couple of
months....  Worth waiting for - I've seen it!

Nick Robinson





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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:41:52 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.COM
Subject: Re: cicada, guitarist

>>>>
  Please correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Lang, but I think I remember
hearing that Robert Lang's forthcoming "Action Origami" will contain a
guitarist.
<<<<

This is correct. I'm still in the publisher negotiation process with the
book.

Robert





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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 11:57:24 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.CA (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Ghostscript

Hi all,

So far I've had no problems with origami related postscript files.
However since we are very graphics oriented and problems might arise
in the future, I thought I would mention that I recently learned
about an irritating problem regarding the porting of postscript files.
Certain systems insert a ^D at the beginning of the file (and perhaps
elsewhere as well) which prevents the proper functioning of the script.
Depending upon your system you may have
    *) no problem
    *) be able to visualize but not print the graphic
    *) only be able to print the script, but not the graphic.
I've been told that this is a well-known and famous problem and that
it suffices to remove the ^D where ever it appears.

                         ... Mark

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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:32:26 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.CA (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: OR Origami Levels

Mike Naughton raised the concern that "discouragement about getting
in over your head" in origami workshops might be overemphasized.
Now, I've (unfortunately) never attended an origami workshop, but
I know that students can have _very_ different reactions to math,
physics, and chemistry.  Some people like and can handle a challenge.
Other people really need the encouragement of something they know
they will be able to do with a little help.  My impression from
teaching chemistry is that the number of people who need
encouragement in approaching "geometric things" probably outweighs
the number who like a challenge, but that the first group can often
be converted into the latter with a bit of time and patience.

I'm sure that there are others on the list who can chime in with
more relevant first hand impressions based upon experience teaching
origami.  Please do.
                             ... Mark
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|          Mark E. Casida                               |
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:47:58 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.COM (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: OR Origami Levels

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> While I'm on my soap box here, that brings me to one of my pet peeves:
the
> discouragement of "getting in over your head" at the OUSA
conventions.

Mike,

I have to agree with your pet peeve.  My first couple of times
attending all the warnings just served to make me nervous and afraid to
try the classes that looked really interesting.  I think it has also
put my son off from coming to the convention with me.  On the positive
side, I have never seen an instructor put anyone down for not being up
to the difficulty of a model.  Usually if there is someone slower than
the rest of the class, the instructors ask another person in the class
who seems to be "getting it" to buddy up and help the other person.
This helps keep the whole class from getting slowed down.  I have also
seen instructors offer to help a person after the class or at lunch
rather than see a person fail a model.

Janet Hamilton
dbsh47b@prodigy.com





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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 13:09:43 -0400
From: "Weinstein, Michael" <michaelw@bdg10.niddk.nih.gov>
Subject: OR Origami levels

-Why discourage people from getting in "over their heads" (there, I'm
paraphrasing)

Try to teach a Lang insect to someone who can't fold a bird base and you'll
see why.





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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 17:00:34 -0400
From: Oded Streigold <benjic@netvision.net.IL>
Subject: RE: Ghostscript

  > I have been having big problems with ghostscript:

 You might want to try a program called gsview.
 I think it is down-laodable from ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/rg/

 This program help you use ghostscript with manus. You can also
 print the files from there on any printer , or you can
 convert them to bmp format, and print them with a bitmap viewer.

 For some more help on this thing, mail me privately!

 Oded (Email: benjic@netvision.net.il )





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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 20:19:31 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Wallet - missing last step!

I forgot the last step! Fold in half!

You need a square 4 times the size of the credit card (OK Doug?)

Nick Robinson
