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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 18:54:20 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: Hi from Russia

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> Then I teach some easy
> models (after each fold, saying, "Compare your model to the person
next to
> you.  Make sure they look the same." (The kids get a kick out of this
and
> often help each other out.)).

T -

Thanks for the message and the great ideas.  I liked the one about
letting the kids unfold an impressive model.  What easy models do you
start with?  I have taught some small groups of kids at church,  and
used a lot of Lillian Oppenheimer's "first lesson" - the magazine cover
box, the jumping frog. and the sailboat.  I thought throwing in a one-
fold model would be a kick.  I'm leaning toward Joseph Wu's one-fold
stegasaurus. then showing them how to customize their own models by
embellishing it (turn up a point for a head, etc).

I'm a little concerned about a 20+ group of 4th graders. Any hints on
how to work with a large group, or other things to do to keep them
interested, prevent frustration, and keep anyone from falling behind?
One thing I have done with the smaller groups is start off with a short
lecture on the history of paper and origami, then before each model, I
ask a question based on the lecture and whoever answers it gets to
choose a piece of paper from my special stash to do the next model.  I
also usually have a helper - someone who knows the models and can help
with people who get stuck.

Janet Hamilton





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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 20:39:16 -0400
From: MiM321@aol.com
Subject: Origami in the Classroom

Dear Teachers and Families:
It's exciting to hear about your origami experienes in the classroom! I would
also like to ENCOURAGE more schools to use origami and have had many
successful experiences using paper folding with elementary
educators--especially for introducing geometry, math concepts and vocabulary
across the curriculum. If you would like to exchange teaching ideas and
 experiences, please email directly to: Pearl2@earthlink.net.

If you are active in elementary schools or would like more information,
please send a SASE for a FREE sample lesson plan from Math in Motion: Origami
in the Classroom (K-6) to share with your schools. (See also Creative
Classroom, a national magazine for educators, Origami in Your Classroom,
Jan/Feb l996.) WRITE: MIM, 2417 Vista Hogar, Newport Beach, CA  92660
                Math in Motion...where every child counts...
--Barbara Pearl :-)





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 01:08:23 -0400
From: unhinged@yrkpa.kias.com
Subject: Re: Sierpinski gasket

Woman screams "don't tear the cards!"

On Sat, 23 Dec 1995 A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com wrote:

>
>  News flash!  Woman found trapped inside structure made of 28,000
>  business cards.  Jaws of life being used to extricate her.  Film
>  at eleven.
>
>  John Andrisan
>  IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 01:52:04 -0400
From: "Sergei Y. Afonkin" <sergei@origami.nit.spb.su>
Subject: Re: Hi from Russia

Thank you for the information!
Is it possible to receive more details about the book you wrote
about? I mean Sadako and cranes. Title, editoral Co, number of pages ets?
Your Segrei Afonkin (sergei@origami.nit.spb.su)





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 01:53:25 -0400
From: "Sergei Y. Afonkin" <sergei@origami.nit.spb.su>
Subject: Re: Sierpinski gasket

I have already seen it on our local cable TV where all USA films are shown
every evening (stolen, of cause)
Sergei (Littlebear) Afonkin, Russia
sergei@origami.spb.nit.su





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 09:34:21 -0400
From: Maumoy@aol.com
Subject: Origami in the Classroom - tv sequel

Steve Buck and I each filmed 2 half hour origami programs for Fairfax County,
Virginia public schools.  These were for 6th graders learning Japanese
throughout Virginia, in connection with a Japanese language program taught by
Sara Diaz.  Our programs were to be used for snow days.  Fortunately, there
were lots of snow days in the winter of 93-94 and our four tapes were shown
frequently.  They are still shown occasionally in the Washington area.  I've
had colleagues tell me they were channel surfing and caught a glimpse of 'my
show'.  One of my husband's great grand nephews thought I really had a show.
 He loves airplanes.  He made a chart of different paper airplanes in hopes I
would put him on 'my show'!

One day  I was channel surfing and found Sara Diaz teaching Japanese.  She
taught an origami teapot.  I folded what I thought she was folding.  The next
time I was sick, I found Sara teaching French, same format, no origami.  I
was sufficiently intrigued to call the public tv station and track her down.
 Sara's origami connection is she's from Freehold, NJ and babysat for a boy
who has now abandoned origami for dirt bikes.  She came to a Capital Folders
meeting and invited Steve and me to the film studio to each film a program.
 She brought the book w/ the teapot.  The model was not from a bird base and
involved a cut.  What I had folded became the Burger's Bush Teapot,
diagrammed in OUSA as teapot.

On tv, we folded each model twice.  In order to show the creases the first
time we folded a model, we used a black magic marker and 'inked' in the
crease.  It was a little strange to do that but it seemed to work well.  We
didn't want  viewers to be frustrated if they didn't get all the steps on the
first go round.

The programs were shown in other parts of the country - I rec'd a fan letter
from Vermont.

I recently went to a conference at the University of Maryland for MARJIS -
Mid Atlantic Region of Japan In the Schools.  The topic was teaching about
World War II by using films such as Tora, Tora, Tora, Rhapsody in August, and
Twenty-four Eyes.  Most of the attendees were Japanese language or history
teachers, including Sara Diaz.  Perhaps there are other regional equivalents
of MARJIS.

Marcia Mau





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 10:31:58 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: Sierpinski sponge

 News Update!  Jaws of life frustrated by structure.   Woman will spend
 holiday season trapped inside.  Mathematicians from Advanced Institute
 of Origami conclude that structure is embedded in fourth dimension and
 therefore invulnerable to conventional methods like jaws of life.  They
 express fear that any event could cause the structure to slip further
 into the fourth dimension and that the woman trapped within may enjoy
 an early New Year's or even Easter.  Film sometime in the future/past.

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 10:58:34 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami records (OR) or not?tiny crane

The smallest modeI remember seeing was at Lillian Oppenheimers.  It was in a
little gumball machine shape and it had a little optical magnifying lens
inserted into the globe.  At the bottom was a pin and you could not see with
the naked eye what was in top of the pin but when you looked thru the lens
you could see that it was a perfectly formed teeny tiny crane. Have you heard
of this.  I wonder whatever happened to it or who made it.





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 11:00:49 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI sources

Funny you should mention Borders Book Store in MidJersey on Rte 18.  I have
been teaching Origami there on the second Saturday of the month for about two
years.  Also at opening of new Borders on Rte 1, Princeton area, and at
Bridgewater Borders.   Come up and see me sometime..  By the way an excellent
source of books and paper is at It's Elementary a wonderful teachers and book
store.  This is across from Delicious Orchards on Rte 34 in Colts Neck.  Go
Rte 18 to Rte 34 North.  I do workshops there too.





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 12:10:16 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Re: Hi from Russia

>Thank you for the information!
>Is it possible to receive more details about the book you wrote
>about? I mean Sadako and cranes. Title, editoral Co, number of pages ets?
>Your Segrei Afonkin (sergei@origami.nit.spb.su)

I don't have the details, but I wanted to add that my niece's school read
this book too, and then her whole class was inspired to fold a 1000 cranes
and send them to Japan.  I'm happy to say they succeeded and had a lot of
fun.

pat slider.





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 12:28:24 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sierpinski gasket

Sergei, Thanks for your long letter about convention and history of Origami..
 I enjoyed the history of Origami in Russia..  Did I tell you that I have had
T.V. show on Origami for 10 years now on a local T.V. station. Have you ever
considered this.  I can give you some pointers if you want.  I have belonged
to Origami USA  about 34 years now and was the 53rd person to have membership
there.  I was very familiar with Lillian Oppenheimer and she was my
inspiration as with many other people. I will be 70 years old next month and
between Origami and my computer I have a wonderful exciting life.  I have
folded with Robert Harbin, gone to 2 BOA conventions, folded
 with Rosaly Yevnin in Tel Aviv, with Eric Kenneway, and many other wonderful
folders.  Have been to almost every American convention as I live just 1 hour
from New York.  I have watched Origami grow to what it is now and that has
been very exciting for me.  I spoke to your wife when you were in Moskow
doing your exhibition there and I went with my tour on to St. Petersburg.  I
was very sorry to have missed your Exhibition in Moscow (there was just no
time) and then to have missed you and your wife when I  got to St. Petes.
   Dorothy Kaplan





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 12:31:00 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hi from Russia

I like the book called just "Sadako".  It has nicer pictures and is a newer
version of this story.  Ask John Smith to send you David Lister's version of
this story....not in book form.  Or perhaps David himself will send it to
you.





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 12:33:16 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami in the Classroom - tv sequel

Hi Marcia, You mention Sara Diaz and that she is from Freehold, N. J.  Me
too...Do you have her phone # or a way for me to reach her.  I'll bet the boy
she baby sat for is Daniel Neimala.  I think he abandoned Origami for dirt
bikes.  I know his mother she is a papermaker and watercolorist and was on my
T.V. show.....Small world.





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 12:35:53 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: A giftwrapping question.

'Tis the season.  I need to do a lot of wrapping in the wee hours tonight.

Several years ago my sister sent us some Christmas presents that she bought
for us during a business trip in Japan.  She had the presents wrapped in
the store where they were bought.  Each present was wrapped starting from
one corner, ending with one corner in the middle of the back of the box
fastened with a single piece of tape.  The paper seemed to have been sized
in proportion to the box's dimensions.  I was really impressed.

I had saved the gift-wrapping to figure out how this was done, but then I
lost it (I am sure it will turn up one day).  Does anyone know how to do
this?

Hoping someone can reply before midnight :-),

pat slider.

(P.S. My sister gave me some very nice paper that year.  Next time I hear
she has a business trip, I am going to ask her to get me some books.)





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:08:44 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Level 2 Sierpinski sponge? argh.....

> Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention, I completed a level 2 Sierpinksi
> sponge last Friday.  It's cool.  At 2400 identical modules, this may
> qualify me for some kind of record.

Some kind of medical treatment at the very least ;)

Nick Robinson





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:11:27 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: diagram format

> I would like to know what's the preferred format for spreading origami

I always use UUencoded gifs. Perhaps not the smallest format, but easily
read by 99% of users.

Nick Robinson





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:17:10 -0400
From: MiM321@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami in the Classroom - tv sequel

Dear Marcia: My local cable company also offered to find a time slot if I
wanted to submit a video on origami. They were very flexible. I know a few
people have their own origami cable shows. I think Dorothy Kaplan in New
Jersey arranges for the cable company to film her and I once met a woman in
Boston when I was presenting at the Nat'l Math Conference who also had
arrangements with her local cable company.

There are so many creative ways to share origami. I have also arranged some
origami exhibits throughout Southern California including museums, libraries
and hospitals.





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 16:55:22 -0400
From: Ingi and T <ingi_t@atc.ameritel.net>
Subject: Re: Hi from Russia

>
>Thanks for the message and the great ideas.  I liked the one about
>letting the kids unfold an impressive model.  What easy models do you
>start with?  I have taught some small groups of kids at church,  and
>used a lot of Lillian Oppenheimer's "first lesson" - the magazine cover
>box, the jumping frog. and the sailboat.  I thought throwing in a one-
>fold model would be a kick.  I'm leaning toward Joseph Wu's one-fold
>stegasaurus. then showing them how to customize their own models by
>embellishing it (turn up a point for a head, etc).
>
>I'm a little concerned about a 20+ group of 4th graders. Any hints on
>how to work with a large group, or other things to do to keep them
>interested, prevent frustration, and keep anyone from falling behind?
>One thing I have done with the smaller groups is start off with a short
>lecture on the history of paper and origami, then before each model, I
>ask a question based on the lecture and whoever answers it gets to
>choose a piece of paper from my special stash to do the next model.  I
>also usually have a helper - someone who knows the models and can help
>with people who get stuck.
>
>Janet Hamilton
>

Janet,
I like the idea of giving out a special sheet to the person who gets their
answer correct.  I don't know a whole lot about origami history (never being
very good at any "history"), so I usually emphasize geometry.

See if you can move the class to the art room so that everyone is at tables
and are facing each other.  Desks don't quite lend to helping your neighbor.

I appoint everyone "helper".  Help your neighbor.  Help your teachers.  I
also move constantly (telling everyone to raise their hands if they're
stuck).  I make it a point never to fold anything on someone else's model
though (otherwise you can end up having to fold the whole thing).  I'll take
theirs, say, this point goes to here, like that, see?  Then I hand it back
to them unfolded.  That way they gain confidence for the next step.  I never
go to the next step until everyone has the current step (for those speedy
folders, I've laid out my collection of books they can look through).  If
someone is really folding ahead, I have them walk around and help others
too.  The trick is to always keep moving, let everyone talk and goof off a
little (I'm a big believer in happy chaos), and stop the chaos for
announcing the next step.

Oh, I forgot an important bit.  I have included a few steps in every model
(I call it the frustration step).  Usually, beginners are a bit lax on
making sharp creases that hold the models together.  So I have everyone set
their flat model on the table, and pound it with their fist, with a joking,
"Take out that frustration.  Show the paper who's boss."  Maybe this is not
very graceful and does not convey the peace and tranquility of a nicely
folded model, but it certainly helps those people who are way too stressed
out over something they are supposed to be enjoying.

As far as what I've been teaching - I bring a few samples of easy folds and
tell the kids to vote.  There's also a couple of moderate ones thrown in
(but I explain very thoroughly that those take a while (and I won't let them
do one until they've completed an easy one).  I've used the crane (I like
the inflate step for beginners), the samurai hat, the star box, Robert
Lang's baseball cap (The Complete Book of Origami), the lily, the basic box,
and a few others.  I've even used John Montroll's Seal from Animal Origami
for the Enthusiast (although I wouldn't recommend it for a large class
simply due to the time factor for beginners).  My recommendation, pick ones
that you are very familiar with and really like for whatever reason (people
can pick up your admiration of a model from your voice (the art of being a
great teacher is being in love with your subject)).

I also start each model by holding up the paper and asking a question like,
"OK, everyone, where's the bird's head?  Where's the tail?"  I do this a few
times during the folding process, too.  I never emphasize whether an answer
is correct or not, and just smile and say, "We'll see soon, I guess."  At
the end of the model I conveniently forget that I've asked (so that no one
is distressed about wrong answers).  The point is to have everyone thinking,
not being self conscious.  I also toss in a few funny stories as I'm walking
around helping everyone (just things that come to mind, not planned at all).

All in all, I run class like a big party and very informally.  I enjoy
folding and I keep telling everyone there is nothing like the satisifaction
of finishing Robert Lang's biplane (The Complete Book of Origami) or John
Montroll's lobster (Animal Origami for the Enthusiast).  Even the easy ones
are beautiful and generate a meditative peace if you just relax and enjoy.
I also mention that origami models make wonderful bows for those last minute
Christmas/birthday/wedding gifts.

Good Luck and Happy Teaching.

T in Maryland
ingi_t@atc.ameritel.net

Merry Christmas!!!





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 19:08:37 -0400
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Re: A giftwrapping question.

>'Tis the season.  I need to do a lot of wrapping in the wee hours tonight.
>
>Several years ago my sister sent us some Christmas presents that she bought
>for us during a business trip in Japan.  She had the presents wrapped in
>the store where they were bought.  Each present was wrapped starting from
>one corner, ending with one corner in the middle of the back of the box
>fastened with a single piece of tape.  The paper seemed to have been sized
>in proportion to the box's dimensions.  I was really impressed.
>
>I had saved the gift-wrapping to figure out how this was done, but then I
>lost it (I am sure it will turn up one day).  Does anyone know how to do
>this?
>
>Hoping someone can reply before midnight :-),
>
>pat slider.

Funny you should ask about this.  Just today I was carefully unwrapping and
wrapping the boxes which I got so wrapped in Japan a couple of years ago.
(This is how I am - no time to figure out or diagram, so just save the box
complete with wrapping paper!)

Each of my boxes started out a little differently, presumably due to the
size and/or shape of the box. (My recollection is that the clerks in the
stores just had a stack of flat paper and did up everything from the same
size.  Of course, everything I bought was small enough for a crowded suitcase.)

Let's see how I do at describing this.  Start the paper out with a corner
pointing to your stomach.  Place the box long side parallel to the edge of
the table and bring that lower corner up to about the midpoint of the box.
Everything will be asymmetrical if you are using rectangular boxes and
paper.  Now bring the right side of the paper up and over the box, arranging
the folded bottom edge to correspond with the edges of the box.  You will
have extra paper that needs to go the the inside.  Let it arrange itself
into pleats.  Some of my boxes have a small piece of tape to hold this
corner together.

Now, holding the bottom and side of the box, flip it over away from you,
making sure that the paper under the box is aligning with the box edge. Now
fold the left side of the paper over the box.  Then the top of the paper
down from the top.  If there is a point sticking over the edge, fold it
under.  One piece of tape at this last step is all that is required.

Hope I haven't confused you entirely.  Basically it is fold bottom, then
right side; flip the box; fold left side, then top.  All the extra paper is
smushed into pleats on the inside.  I think the key is that original
placement of the box on the paper.  Unfortunately I haven't practiced this
enough to really know how to adjust it - and don't know that I'd be able to
describe it anyway.

Good luck!
Carol Hall
chall@scsn.net





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 23:06:42 -0400
From: LEMIEUXJ@woods.uml.edu
Subject: RE: Re: Origami records (OR) or not?tiny crane

>   At the bottom was a pin and you could not see with the
> naked eye what was in top of the pin but when you looked
> thru the lens you could see that it was a perfectly formed
> teeny tiny crane. Have you heard of this.  I wonder whatever
> happened to it or who made it.
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 See page 160 of Complete Origami by Eric Kenneway ISBN 0-312-00898-8.
"In response to a 'smallest flapping bird' competition, A. Naito from
Japan folded a model from paper a mere 2.9mm (About 1/10in) square"
 One third of the page is devoted to small-scale models.

Bob
J. Robert A. Lemieux
lemieuxj@woods.uml.edu





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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 23:15:31 -0400
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: Hi from Russia

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> Thank you for the information!
> Is it possible to receive more details about the book you wrote
about? I
> mean Sadako and cranes. Title, editoral Co, number of pages ets? Your
> Segrei Afonkin (sergei@origami.nit.spb.su)

The info on the book is:

Sadako and the Thousand Cranes by Eleanor Coerr
Dell Publishing
1540 Broadway
New York, New York 10036
ISBN: 0-440-21946-9
64 pages.

Janet Hamilton





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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 01:33:05 -0400
From: Tom Conally <conally@netpath.net>
Subject: Re: A giftwrapping question.

At 12:37 PM 12/24/95 -0400, you wrote:
>'Tis the season.  I need to do a lot of wrapping in the wee hours tonight.
>
>Several years ago my sister sent us some Christmas presents that she bought
>for us during a business trip in Japan.  She had the presents wrapped in
>the store where they were bought.  Each present was wrapped starting from
>one corner, ending with one corner in the middle of the back of the box
>fastened with a single piece of tape.  The paper seemed to have been sized
>in proportion to the box's dimensions.  I was really impressed.
>
>I had saved the gift-wrapping to figure out how this was done, but then I
>lost it (I am sure it will turn up one day).  Does anyone know how to do
>this?
>
>Hoping someone can reply before midnight :-),
>
>pat slider.
>
>(P.S. My sister gave me some very nice paper that year.  Next time I hear
>she has a business trip, I am going to ask her to get me some books.)
>
>Hi.  I saw one reply to your question already. It reminds me of the way my
dad wrapped meat in his meat market only maybe a little neater. good luck.

                                    ---Tom C---

 <<<<<<<<<<  Chemistry is life itself  >>>>>>>>>>
    "Knowledge and timber shouldn't be much used
     till they are seasoned ."  Oliver Wendell Holmes
 <<<< WA4IVR>>>><<<<conally@netpath.net>>>>





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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 09:54:29 -0400
From: "Sergei Y. Afonkin" <sergei@origami.nit.spb.su>
Subject: Russian origami magazine

   Dear paperfolders of four corners of the world!

I would  like  to  inform  you  that  Russian origami magazine
titled "Origami.  The art of paperfolding"  will  appear  next
year.  During  the year it will be quaterly edition A5 format,
64 pages with color soft  cover  and  one  color  inside.  The
magazine  was  sponsored by a private company "Akim" that gave
money to print first four issues in Moskow.  Our St.Petersburg
Origami  Centre  promised  to give all information,  texts and
diagrams.  The proof of first issue will be ready 7th  January
(all  of us are very exited!!!).  Each russian paperfolder can
receive the magazine via local post office (it is  the  common
practice   for   magazines   in   Russia).  Today  I  received
information about the number of subscribers that  are  in  the
list - 750 of them! Not bad for the beggining, I think.

Do not ask me now how the magazine could be mailed  abroad.  I
do not  know  yet.  All big origami societies and centres will
receive a complimentary copy. Here is the list:

    British Origami Society, c/o Penny Groom, 2A The Chestnuts,
    Countesthorpe, Leichester LE8 3TL, England

    V.N.O.S. Belgie, Postbus 62, B-2370 Arendonk, Belgium

    Hungarigami, Hungarian Origami Society, c/o Zsuzanna Kricskovics,
    Kecskemet pf.60, H-6001, Hungary

    Origami  Munchen,  c/o  Rene  Lucio,  Postfach  22 13 24,  Munchen,
    D-80503, Germany

    The Chinese /HK/ Origami Society, c/o David Chan, Flat A 9/F,
    524 Nathan Rd., Kowloon, Hong Kong

    Dansk Origami Center, Ewaldsgade 4, KLD, 220 Copenhagen-N,
    Denmark

    Israel Origami Art Society, c/o Rosaly Yevnin, Mevo HaAsara 1/22,
    97876, Jerusalem, Israel

    Asociacion Espaniola de Papiroflexia, c/o Julian Gonsales
    Garsia Gutierrez, 2-3 C, 28016 Madrid, Spain

    Centro Diffusione Origami, c/o Raffaele Leonardi, Casella Postale 42,
    21040 Caronno Varesino (Varese), Italy

    Korea Jongi Jupgi Assoc. Institute of Paper Culture, 5F Sukama
    Bldg-189, Dongsoong-Dong, Jongno-ku, Seoul, Korea 110-510

    Origami Societeit Nederland, PostBus 35, 9989 ZG, Warffum,
    Netherlands

    The Friends of the Origami Center of America, 15 West 77 Street
    New York NY 10024-5192, U.S.A.

    Mouvement  Francais des Plieurs de Papier,  c/o Alain Georgeod,
    56 rue Coriolis, 75012 Paris, France

    Nippon Origami Associacion, 1-096 Domir Gobancho, 12-Gobancho,
    Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo, Japan

     ORU, SOJUSHA,  Inc. DiK Koishikawa 405, 2-3-28  Koishikawa,
     Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo 112, Japan

Sincerely yours, Sergei Afonkin, main editor





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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 11:45:59 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Tiny crane

> The smallest modeI remember seeing was at Lillian Oppenheimers.  It was in
> little gumball machine shape and it had a little optical magnifying lens
> inserted into the globe.  At the bottom was a pin and you could not see

> I wonder whatever happened to it or who made it.

The BOS had it for some years, but unsure where it is the noo. One lady at a
convention commented "I can't see the needle, never mind the crane!".

The fold was by A. Naito, from a 2.9mm square - see Kenneway's "Complete
Origami" page 160 for more details.

Nick Robinson





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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 11:49:32 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Ow's new book

> Are the models different from the Origami Hearts and More Origami
> Hearts books available through OUSA?

Without actually checking, I suspect they are all drawn from Francis'
private publications. Possibly a few new ones...

Nick Robinson





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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 21:29:14 -0400
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Re: A giftwrapping question.

>
>>I had saved the gift-wrapping to figure out how this was done, but then I
>>lost it (I am sure it will turn up one day).  Does anyone know how to do
>>this?
>>
>
>>Hi.  I saw one reply to your question already. It reminds me of the way my
>dad wrapped meat in his meat market only maybe a little neater. good luck.
>
>                                    ---Tom C---
>
You know, I thought the same thing when I was unwrapping those boxes...
Well, my dad wasn't in the meat business, but those one-piece-of-tape deli
wraps have to be very similar!  So we must all run down to the local market
to get a wrapping lesson from the butchers!
Carol Hall





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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 00:39:18 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Level 2 Sierpinski sponge? argh.....

Nick, what did you do, fold a few together at a time or stay up all night to
do it......like wow..Dorothy Kaplan





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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 12:42:06 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: Another paper airplane site....

I found another paper airplane site on the internet this morning (a little
holiday surfing):

http://www.teleport.com/~bbb/

The site is called CompuArt Planes and seems very well-done.  Includes a
small table of the planes listed describing type, difficulty,
"trimibility", and designer (no Nick Robinson planes :-<).

So now I need to a good block of time to fold some new planes as well as
gift-wrap.

pat slider.





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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 21:40:02 -0400
From: Maumoy@aol.com
Subject: 1,000 Cranes Jigsaw Puzzle

I rec'd a 1,000 piece thousand cranes jigsaw puzzle for Christmas.  It's the
design from the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston which was used on a scarf.  It
was also used for a tie, kimono, and a bow tie/cummerbund set.  It comes w/ 5
sheets of crane patterned paper.  I never realized there were 32 steps to
fold a crane.

My puzzle  was a gift, purchased at Learningsmith.  With a black background
and small randomly placed cranes, it will take me quite a while to assemble!

Saw it today in the MFA sale catalog.  I puzzle for $12.99, 2 or more for
$11.99, 6 or more only $9.99 each.  It's item 65813.  1-800-225-5592.

Marcia Mau





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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 01:35:58 -0400
From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@fantasyfarm.com>
Subject: Business card origami

Do any of you know of origami done with business cards?  I was in a
friend's office and saw a bunch of wonderful folds she had been taught in
a short course at MIT a few years back.  I realized that business cards
are wonderful fodder for folding -- they're stiff and most of us have
*hundreds* of them we could comfortably get rid of.

If any of you know anything about that course[*] or who taught it or have
any other info, references, pointers, etc, on this I'd appreciate hearing
about it.  Thanks!
  [*] the particular course she took was offered during 'independent
      activities period', which occurs between the fall and spring terms
      at MIT.  During IAP, a most amazing selection of few-day courses
      is offered, from gourmet cooking to a refresher courses in swahili.

  /Bernie\
--
Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
bernie@fantasyfarm.com            Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--





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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:09:17 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: Business Card Origami

 I have a piece made of 16 business cards that is a "starburst" or maybe
 a large coffee cup stand.  I think the design came from Bennett Arnstein
 but I don't recall seeing it in a book yet.  It uses glue (sigh) to hold
 the pieces together.

 Basically each piece is folded as follows...

 Find the middle line (without making a fold) that connects the two short
 sides.  Fold the short sides to the middle line making right triangles
 and then fold these triangles into narrower triangles by folding their
 sides to the middle line.  There will be some overlaping of folds in the
 middle area of the card.

 Assemble the starburst by gluing each unit onto the next one so that one
 of the narrow triangle sides of one unit lines up with the middle line
 of the next unit.  The apexes of these narrow triangles will meet at the
 center of the starburst shape.

 Maybe someone out there has seen this one in print?

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:24:26 -0400
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Tiny crane

At 11:45 25/12/95 -0400, you wrote:
>> The smallest modeI remember seeing was at Lillian Oppenheimers.  It was in
>> little gumball machine shape and it had a little optical magnifying lens
>> inserted into the globe.  At the bottom was a pin and you could not see
>
>> I wonder whatever happened to it or who made it.
>
>The BOS had it for some years, but unsure where it is the noo. One lady at a
>convention commented "I can't see the needle, never mind the crane!".
>
>The fold was by A. Naito, from a 2.9mm square - see Kenneway's "Complete
>Origami" page 160 for more details.
>
>Nick Robinson
>
I thought I remembered seeing this at Lillian's in New York, first of all.
But if is a flapping bird how on earth do you make it flap?

John.
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:53:23 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.COM>
Subject: Re: Tiny crane

<<But if is a flapping bird how on earth do you make it flap?>>

Probably the same way porcupines make love:
VERY CAREFULLY...
:-)

--valerie





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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 23:34:32 -0400
From: EMMA CRAIB <102676.1410@compuserve.COM>
Subject: Crinkled doughnuts
Just in case this hasn't been posted, this week's Science News
(Dec. 23 & 30, 1995, vol. 148) has nifty folding article by Ivars
Peterson.  Titled -Crinkled Doughnuts: Math in the folds of a
polyhedral Crown_ it has cool photos and clear folding diagrams.

Shame it was published after Xmas as the toroidal polyhedron
looks like a wreath with a Buckminster Fuller spin on it.
Happy New Year!   Emma





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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 00:09:34 -0400
From: James_Sakoda@Brown.EDU (James Minoru Sakoda)
Subject: Re: diagram format

>> I would like to know what's the preferred format for spreading origami
>
>I always use UUencoded gifs. Perhaps not the smallest format, but easily
>read by 99% of users.
>
>Nick Robinson
E-Mail in its present form does not seem to have the capability of allowing
more than the exchange of diagrams among a select group who have the
capability and the willingness to be put on a list of receiver of diagrams.
At one point I thought that since diagrams can be expressed as text using
Postscript, that it was sensible to send some diagrams along with text.
But the difficulty is that not everyone has either the capacity or the
desire to have their E-mail assaulted by diagrams which they are unable to
handle.  This inability includes the large volume of text that needs to be
transmitted and stored when even a page of diagrams is sent.  It means not
only ability to translate code into diagrams, but also having a high speed
modem and enough disk storage to download numerous diagrams from different
sources.  In addition one needs to have the ability to translate the code
into diagrams and then to print it out.  Postscript, for example, generally
requires a postscript printer.  Hence, to be fair to those not fully
equipped to handle diagrams, one can avoid criticism by not sending even a
small diagram to the list server.
     The alternative that some are taking is to set up pages on the world
wide web, probably using Netscape 2.  Those on the list can be informed of
the existence of these pages, which can be read by those acquiring Netscape
or its equivalent.  Some time in the future when we have settled on the use
of a common powerful program to read diagrams as well as text, there might
be exchange of a limited amount of diagrams added to text in E-Mail.  I
have read that Netscape 2 is E-Mail friendly, and perhaps that is not too
much to ask.  James M. Sakoda





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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:06:51 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: Diagram Format

I am sitting here at 7 in the evening, temperatures in the mid to high 80's
(fairly typical for Christmas in New Zealand) thinking about picture
formats.

I have sent plenty of pictures to all sorts of people, mostly by just
making an attachment of the .GIF, .TIF, .JPG or whatever. They always seem
to get to their destination OK.

I have received pictures in these formats directly, as attachments, and as
WINCODE attachments which later have to be decoded.

I have no idea what form my pictures take in the incoming mail - do we need
to bother worrying about it? - so long as they arrive in whatever form they
do, is this not sufficient.

Let's do as Dorothy was asked to do in The Wizard of OZ, and not look
behind the curtain, if something appears to be working fine, lets just keep
on keeping on!

Laurie..





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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:09:45 -0400
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Diagram Format

>
> I have no idea what form my pictures take in the incoming mail - do we need
> to bother worrying about it? - so long as they arrive in whatever form they
> do, is this not sufficient.
>
> Let's do as Dorothy was asked to do in The Wizard of OZ, and not look
> behind the curtain, if something appears to be working fine, lets just keep
> on keeping on!
>
> Laurie..
>
>
The objective is not to send mail. It is that the recipient should be able
to decipher what you are sending.

--
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:18:48 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: Diagrams in Email

 Some of us are not blessed with Email in the form that accepts the
 attached .GIF (etc) files as your system does.  My Email system is
 actually on an IBM mainframe using PROFS (the same type of system
 that Ollie North once used).

 IBM mainframes currently suffer from supporting 3270 dumb terminals,
 and thus only show certain forms of graphics such as IBM's GDDM.
 Unfortunately GIF, JPGG, and such, are not yet supported.

 Our WEB Browser, named Charlotte, also suffers from this condition, so
 where you might see a cute icon or picture, I would see an "<image>" to
 let me know that I missed something cute.

 But these mainframe processors are enormously fast and support many
 thousands of users simultaneously, giving us an "economy of scale".
 PCs may be "in" but mainframes are definitely not "out".

 end of sermon  /john

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:09:14 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: diagram format

Just curious, but are there a lot of people on the
origami-l who don't have access to FTP? If not, why
does it seem to be such a problem for people to
upload graphics files to the list archive site (using
FTP), so that everyone who wants them can easily go
download them using FTP?

Also, many of the GIF and Postscript files that are
sent to the archive site are duplicated on Joseph Wu's
web page, and/or also converted to Acrobat PDF format.

FTP is easy to use, practically everybody with Internet
access can use it, and AOL and Compuserve both have
FTP service also. All you have to do is email Maarten
van Gelder (the archivist) that you've posted the file
and what it is, then deposit it in the Incoming subdirectory
of the origami directory at the archive site.

This avoids all the problems of limits on email file size,
encoding, formats etc etc that cause people problems.

--valerie





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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:18:09 -0400
From: AFAAndy@aol.com
Subject: Re: diagram format

>>>Also, many of the GIF and Postscript files that are
sent to the archive site are duplicated on Joseph Wu's
web page, and/or also converted to Acrobat PDF format.<<<

I'm not sure about the GIF files but I know Alex converts the EPS files to
PDF as soon as he knows the EPS files are available.

I prefer the PDF files. They are much easier to handle and print than GIF or
EPS. PDF files are cross platform and the Reader is free to anyone that wants
to download it.

Andy





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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:03:14 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Tiny crane

> I thought I remembered seeing this at Lillian's in New York, first of all.
> But if is a flapping bird how on earth do you make it flap?

As hedgehogs make love - carefully!

Nick Robinson





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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:08:09 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: diagram format

>      The alternative that some are taking is to set up pages on the world
> wide web, probably using Netscape 2.

Sounds good to me. Presumably someone with a LOT of disk space could act as a
library for gif/jpg images (which can this be viewed/saved in netscape), linked
by descriptive text. If the site could be ftp'd via an agreed password so that
we could upload our diagrams & have a form to add the text details to the list
automatically. Would this need moderating? I guess not unless it became *vary*
popular.

I'm sure the technology exists to req. UUe versions of these files by filling in
a CGI form whilst at the URL.

Nick Robinson





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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:12:26 -0400
From: Bob Nienhuis <IBFIRBN@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Re: diagram format

Just an off-hand idea. Perhaps a shareware style system of payments
to authors for downloads of diagrams might be instituted. I assume
the authors would retain book publishing rights. Would probably
increase the flow of diagrams!

Bob Nienhuis
ibfirbn@mvs.oac.ucla.edu





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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 02:18:17 -0400
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Washi Paper

Greetings -
I would like to ask for help on a project.

On my website, in the section for "Articles of Interest", I would like to
present a variety of topics.  I would like to invite your comments and
"input" on the subject of Washi Paper.  There are many beautiful varieties;
both traditional prints and more modern ones, textures, qualities, colors,
ink colors, etc.

Some on the more common varieties are:
Wazome, Unryu, Chiyogami, Arasuji, Mizutama, Miyabi, Hakutsuru, Yuzen,
Mingei, Irodori, Pikapika, Moji, and Seikaiha.  I would like to define the
differences, and talk a little about each variety - and about any other
varieties.

When I get the information gathered, I'll post the completed research for
everyone.

Thank You!
Bren
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:44:55 -0400
From: Penny <Penny@sector.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: diagram format

In your message dated Thursday 28, December 1995 you wrote :
> >>>Also, many of the GIF and Postscript files that are
> sent to the archive site are duplicated on Joseph Wu's
> web page, and/or also converted to Acrobat PDF format.<<<
>
> I'm not sure about the GIF files but I know Alex converts the EPS files to
> PDF as soon as he knows the EPS files are available.
>
> I prefer the PDF files. They are much easier to handle and print than GIF or
> EPS. PDF files are cross platform and the Reader is free to anyone that wants
> to download it.
>
> Andy
>
>So how do I download it can someone tell me please?
Thanks
Penny

--

------------------------------------------
Penny Groom                :(  Membership Secretary
                           :)  British Origami Society
penny@sector.demon.co.uk





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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:10:35 -0400
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Peter Engel

I would like to get in touch with Peter Engel can anyone help with an E-mail
or other address. John.
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:11:21 -0400
From: Oded Streigold <benjic@netvision.net.il>
Subject: Re: Re: diagram format

>> EPS. PDF files are cross platform and the Reader is free to anyone that wants
>> to download it.
>>
>> Andy
>>

>So how do I download it can someone tell me please?
>Thanks

you nead the adobe reader.
you can download it from: web site: http://www.nol.net/~barber/origami/

or from ftp: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/ra/rajeev/acroread.exe

The ftp is good for pc windows. The web site has it also for other
platforms/computers.
good bye! 8-)
Oded (benjic@netvision.net.il)





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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:57:19 -0400
From: AFAAndy@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: diagram format

Hi Penny,

>>>>So how do I download it can someone tell me please?<<<

Use URL: http://www.nol.net/~barber/origami/ I believe Alex has the URL there
for the Readers too.

Andy





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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 17:18:34 -0400
From: bryan@sgl.ists.ca (Bryan Feir)
Subject: Re: diagram format

> I'm not sure about the GIF files but I know Alex converts the EPS files to
> PDF as soon as he knows the EPS files are available.
>
> I prefer the PDF files. They are much easier to handle and print than GIF or
> EPS. PDF files are cross platform and the Reader is free to anyone that wants
> to download it.

   Well, the reader is free to anyone who happens to have one of the
types of computer systems that Adobe blesses with its support.  Which
does *not* include my Linux machine, for example.  And since Adobe
isn't making the format public like they did with Postscript, nobody
else can write a reader except them.  So I'm stuck waiting for them
to decide to write a reader for an operating system which is free.
PDF is not as 'cross-platform' as Postscript is, and never will be as
long as Adobe decides it wants to hog the market.

   On the other hand, I can get and compile a free copy of Ghostscript
which handles EPS files with no trouble.  And there are a *lot* of GIF
readers out there.  I know that both Ghostscript and a nice front-end
called GSView exist for Windows, and have used both.

   Obligatory Origami: Well, one of the fun things I gave out as gifts
this year, was a couple of copies of the Maekawa Dodecahedron from
Origami for the Connoisseur.  Cut down 15cm paper to four 7.5cm sheets,
then made up two of the dodecahedrons with two of each of red, green,
and silver foil.  Hangers were made with a simple loop of dental floss
with the knot inside, fed through one of the corners where the three
sheets met.  Perfect size for an ornament, and more sturdy than some of
the glass ones I've dealt with.

---------------------------+---------------------------------------------------
Bryan Feir           VE7GBF|"A wrangle is the disinclination of two boarders to
bryan@sgl.ists.ca          | each other that meet together but are not in the
                           | same line."              -- Stephen Leacock





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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 17:20:25 -0400
From: Billroad@aol.com
Subject: Delete me from list

Delete my address from mailing list.  Billroad@AOL.COM





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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:06:37 -0400
From: Tim Rueger <rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com>
Subject: Re: diagram format

Hi, all,

>>>>> "bf" == Bryan Feir <bryan@sgl.ists.ca> writes:
[bits deleted...]

    >> I'm not sure about the GIF files but I know Alex converts the EPS files
     to
    >> PDF as soon as he knows the EPS files are available.
    >>
    >> I prefer the PDF files. They are much easier to handle and print than
     GIF or
    >> EPS. PDF files are cross platform and the Reader is free to anyone that
     wants
    >> to download it.

    bf>    Well, the reader is free to anyone who happens to have one of the
    bf> types of computer systems that Adobe blesses with its support.  Which
    bf> does *not* include my Linux machine, for example.

    bf>    On the other hand, I can get and compile a free copy of Ghostscript
    bf> which handles EPS files with no trouble.  And there are a *lot* of GIF
    bf> readers out there.  I know that both Ghostscript and a nice front-end
    bf> called GSView exist for Windows, and have used both.

It seems there are two primary kinds of users out there, and the
"debate" here seems to be over who should win.

One class of user has a Mac or a PC (i.e, a more "mainstream" OS), and
knows relatively little about the innards of their preferred machine.
(E.g., installing an OS, downloading and installing a PostScript viewer,
etc.)  For these folks, PDF is the way to go, if you want to print
*clear* diagrams.  (In my experience, GIFs are ok for viewing photos,
but they just don't cut it for printing folding diagrams.)

Then there are the power users/hackers/whatever, who know how install
Linux on a PC, can download and install GNU tools, can hack printer
drivers or modify interrupt settings, etc.  For these people, PostScript
is the best, since they have the ability to download and build the tools
they need.

It would seem that having diagrams available in both formats is a
workable solution (assuming disk space is cheap), and let the users grab
what they can use.  Diagrammers can generate Postscript pretty easily,
and people like Alex Barber can donate the use of Adobe's Distiller to
generate PDF from Postscript.

Which is pretty much the situation we have now.

Ob.origami: Last week, I found that "1000 Cranes" jigsaw puzzle at a
WTTW (PBS) Store of Knowledge.  The enclosed paper is neat, but the
puzzle itself will be *hard* - it's just a black background with 1000
multicolored cranes scattered about.  Oy...

-Tim
--
Tim Rueger             Motorola CCRL IC Design Laboratory, IL02-2921
Fax  : (708) 538-4593  Internet: rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com





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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:17:40 -0400
From: AFAAndy@aol.com
Subject: Re: diagram format

>>>>One class of user has a Mac or a PC (i.e, a more "mainstream" OS), and
knows relatively little about the innards of their preferred machine.<<<<

Not true.

There are no GOOD EPS readers for the Mac. GhostView/Script bites big time.
The commercial applications available are too expensive.

PDF is very easy for most people to use. It's not hard to dump an EPS file to
a printer, but that wastes paper.

Paper should be for folding,

Andy





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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 02:57:49 -0400
From: Bren Riesinger <fascfold@fascinating-folds.com>
Subject: Washi Paper - (Different Message)

Hi -

Many of you have been patiently waiting for me to get my washi paper
inventoried.  I have prepared color prints of the available patterns and
will be sending the information to those of you who have indicated an
interest.  If anyone else is interested, please email me privately with your
USnail mailing address.

Hope everyone has a Happy New Year ! !

Bren
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - -
Fascinating Folds
Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper





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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 07:44:33 -0400
From: "Sergei Y. Afonkin" <sergei@origami.nit.spb.su>
Subject: Froebel Institute?

Could somebody help me to find the  Froebel  Institute  address?
I suppose it is in Germany?

Sergei Afonkin (sergei@origami.nit.spb.su)





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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 08:53:05 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: payment???

> Just an off-hand idea. Perhaps a shareware style system of payments
> to authors for downloads of diagrams might be instituted.

Can't say I like the concept - don't we do it for the sharing/love of it? I for
one don't want any money, so many share/d their ideas with me & encouraged the
proper ethics....

Nick Robinson





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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:23:33 -0400
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (S.Y. Chen)
Subject: Re: Washi Paper - (Different Message)

>Hi -
>
>Many of you have been patiently waiting for me to get my washi paper
>inventoried.  I have prepared color prints of the available patterns and
>will be sending the information to those of you who have indicated an
>interest.  If anyone else is interested, please email me privately with your
>USnail mailing address.
>
>Hope everyone has a Happy New Year ! !
>
>Bren
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>Fascinating Folds
>Rediscover the ancient craft of Origami, Japanese paper-folding, with
>our extensive line of Origami papers and books.
>http://www.fascinating-folds.com/paper
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Hi, Bren,

I would like to know more about your washi invetory.
My address is
Sy Chen
736 Clopper Rd #33
Gaithersburg, MD 20878

Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. SY)
NIST, Gaithersburg, MD 20899, Office TEL: (301)975-4675
E-Mail: sychen@enh.nist.gov or sychen@ecn.purdue.edu
http://www.iia.org/~chens/syhome.htm





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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:51:55 -0400
From: AFAAndy@aol.com
Subject: Offer for diagrammers...

Alex is having mail problems. He asked me to send this to the list for him.

Andy

*********************************************************
This started out as "Diagram Format" for those who have been following
this thread.  I tried to comment on this before, but my email just froze
the last time.  Here's hoping this post works :)

I have been following the ways things have been going with regards to
posting diagrams on this list.  Someone shares with us a great model via
a GIF or JPG attachment to the list.  For the week after that, traffic on
the list covers the appropriateness or readability of such an attachment.
Things die down until the next model gets posted as an image sent to
everyone.

I'd like to make a suggestion/offer to everyone.  If you have diagrammed
your model on the computer and can generate postscript or eps files of
your diagrams (that preferably include the fonts used) you could send me
one of these files that I could then convert to an Acrobat file and add
to my web page for everyone to download and view.  I can always make a
quick message to the list announcing any new models.  If people can't get
to these diagrams via the web, I can always upload them to the FTP site
maintained for this group.

I know this is not a solution that works for everyone, but I think between
placing diagrams on my site in Acrobat format and graphic diagrams (ie GIF
files) on the ftp server for this list we can cover just about everyone.

Alex Barber

barber@nol.net | http://www.nol.net/~barber
                 http://www.printnet.com/abarber/barber.html

I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or
numbered.  My life is my own.





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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:58:03 -0400
From: s890417@student.ulg.ac.be (efpe)
Subject: Hello!

I'm new user of this list server. I'm a beginner in origami. Can you give me
some internet links where i can fing some exemples of origami (easy to do!).

Thank you





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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:20:15 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: diagram format

Hi Andy,

> I prefer the PDF files. They are much easier to handle and print than GIF
> or EPS. PDF files are cross platform and the Reader is free

On your advice, I got hold of the acrobat reader & grabbed some files from
Alex's collection. It seems OK for onscreen reading (won't rotate landscape
diagrams though) but 1 page took 8 minutes to print & the output was very
poor (on a Deskjet 520).

In what way is it easier than printing a gif file? Even Dos can do that! In
addition, I'll have to convert my gif/jpgs first to .eps, then find a .pdf
translator since I don't have a .pdf export facility. Surely Macs etc can
handle gifs?

Nick Robinson





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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:22:36 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Froebel Institute?

> Could somebody help me to find the  Froebel  Institute  address?
> I suppose it is in Germany?

Not guaranteed, but try;

The Frobel Kindergarten,
Frobelhaus 1,
Bad Blankenburg,
Germany

Good luck!

Nick Robinson





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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:37:10 -0400
From: slider@ims.mariposa.ca.us (Pat Slider)
Subject: origami education thought.

Just a small thought :->.

I have been folding some boxes out of Tomoko Fuse's book "Origami Boxes".
I find that I really must behave and be very precise or the box looks
awful.

This is a great lesson for me! (I am just an intermediate folder at best.
This list is inspirational.) Perhaps those of you who teach might like to
demonstate one of these models?  They are not too difficult and are fun to
fold, but they do inspire some careful folding.  I guess this is true of
all boxes, though.

pat slider.
