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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 11:55:30 -0400
From: marmonk@eskimo.com (Mark Morden)
Subject: Seattle Origami Statue

A week or so ago I was driving around the University of Washington campus
and unexpectedly came upon an origami statue.  It was a life size bronze
statue of a young girlstanding with her arm outstretched holding a paper
crane.  Someone had draped the figure with a few chains of cranes and other
models.

Does anybody know the story behind the statue?  Why it is there and who had
it created?

If you are in Seattle and want to see the statue, it is located west of
Terry-Lander Hall (a dorm) below the I-5 ship canal bridge.  It is west of
Eastlake Avenue at the north end of the University Bridge, right where NE
40th Street turns onto the bridge.  Being life-size it is not very big and
it sits among some trees.  I have been by there before and not seen it.  I
think it was the color of the crane chains that made me finally notice it.

Thanks for any info.

Mark

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I belive in the rising sun;
not because I see it but by it I see all else.
                                           C.S. Lewis





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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 14:34:29 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: St. George's Star

> Help!  I just got a plea for help from someone looking for folding
> directions for a St. George's Star.

Not sure what the characteristics of this star are - could you enlighten my
ignorance? I might then be bale to ehlp you - I've a load of stars in my
collection...

Nick Robinson





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 05:30:48 -0400
From: Lee Cotton <gbwflg75@ibmmail.com>
Subject: Brit. orig. soc. address?

Hello all.  Can anybody give me the address of the British Origami Society
that I keep hearing mentioned in this group?  Does anybody know what they
offer, what the subscription fee is, if they have an email address, what you
get, etc...?

Lee





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:25:59 -0400
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: (Fwd) Woo models

>
> I was wondering if I could "poll" the members of the list for their
> suggestions on the best, most striking models they have used (or would
> recommend to use) to impress a woman.  I've been seeing a young woman of
> exquisite taste (in other words- she LOVES the origami :) ) and I've made
> her a rose (Kawasaki's first, published in Connoisseur) with Joseph Wu's
> base, tucked inside of a Fuse box.
>
> She loved the butterfly ball, and the Koala from Gay Merrill Gross' "Art
> of Origami" (thanks for the book- lots of GREAT models)
>
> What else would the members of the list recommend?  I'd like to continue
> to impress her with the folding.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rob

Peter Engel's Valentine is a winner!

--
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:50:52 -0400
From: chiug@cognos.com (Grace Chiu)
Subject: Re: WHAT A POMPOUS LETTER!

>In a message dated 95-11-24 16:05:29 EST, you write:
>Nothing against your group but I gave it a chance and I don't like it. I
>tried to quietly exit . I did get the FAQ and followed the instructions to
>the letter at least a half a dozen times. 6 people wrote to me with different
>instructions and none of them work. I didn't want to bother your group but
>the fact is  I still CAN'T GET OUT OF THIS GROUP AND IT IS DRIVING ME
>CRAZY!!!!!!!

A bit of patience is required in unsubscribing to this group.  I've been
trying for the last couple of weeks, not because I don't want to be here,
but because I can't post messages to it since my address seems to have
changed.  There are a few technology problems here on the list server and
the so-called absent 'listmgr'.

Please don't take it out on the origami-l subscribers.

Thanks
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:27:11 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.EDU>
Subject: Re:  Woo models

Does your lady-fair like dinosaurs? How abouIddei Yoshino's "Tyrannosaurus
Rex Skeleton"? Or John Montroll's "Stegosaurus" - they are pretty impressive.

Does she like music? Robert Lang has some great musicians in his "The Complete
Book of Origami" - they are even action models! There is also a bi-plane if
she is into antique aircraft, a Viking ship (that the oars actually "row"),
and a cuckoo clock!

"Origami Zoo" by Stephen Weiss and Robert Lang has a very impressive eagle - is
she in the Sierra Club or something? The wing tips of theeagle in flight
have individual feathers on them!

Is she a scuba diver? Or into marine biology? Tr"Origami Sea Life" by
Robert Lang (again!) and John Montroll. Some very impressive models in there.

How about just into wildlife? Montroll has some good models in his books. I
especially like the moose in "North American Animals," the zebra in "African
Animals" (the reticulated giraffe, too). Lang has a very elegant, but very
easy to do (I thought) model of a humpback whale in "Origami Animals".

Fuse has some incredible boxes that have scenes on the tops in one of her
books (actually she has a couple, I have one of them). I'm afraid I don't
recall the name, can't find my OUSA list, and the title on the book is
Japanese, but there are several very elegant boxes in there. I especially like
the box with the crane on the top - made of four separatbox top pieces. Very
nice in foil.

Personally, I would be impressed with just about anything that was well folded.
If she knows origami, and can appreciate that most of thabove are made with
a single sheet of paper... (Most people are unaware of the nature os origami
and you show them a scuplture from one sheet of paper and they think you've
made it with two or three!).

My $.02!

Dee Lynch (yes - I FINALLY got back on line - more about that later for those
of you that care!)

P.S. Does she like Star Trek? Jeremy Shafer has a great Original Series
Enterprise!!





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:11:14 -0400
From: rmoes@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (Rob Moes)
Subject: Re: Woo models

Rob (unhinged@yrkpa.kias.com) writes:

>I was wondering if I could "poll" the members of the list for their
>suggestions on the best, most striking models they have used (or would
>recommend to use) to impress a woman.

Three ideas:

1)  Lavish paper--get the best that you can find.  I use the handmade
Japanese paper from Aiko's in Chicago.  Expensive, but hey, roses aren't
exactly cheap....  Then, find a model you can fold well that will show off
the paper.

Three that I like are:  John Montroll's peacock (Animal Origami for the
Enthusiast), Patricia Crawford's swan (Harbin's Origami:  A Step-by-Step
Guide), and Robert Lang's rabbit (Origami Zoo).

2)  Miniatures--not everyone can do these, but if it's reminiscent of a
piece of jewelry, then you've probably got yourself a winner.  Typically I
like tissue-foil combinations.  If you want some ideas about models that
work well, try some of Kasahara's models.  How to show them off?  A very
special one can go in its own small glass vial.  I've also taken a
Valentine candy box and replaced   ;-)   the chocolates with origami.

3)  Peter Engel's octopus (Folding the Universe)--yes, some of you may
laugh, but this was my biggest success ever.  Made out of a two-foot square
of marbleized gift wrap in swirling pastel colors.  It stands about 7
inches high, and I perched it on top of a pink seashell that I bought.   My
ladyfriend was struck by the fact that this origami model has cute little
eyes, and she liked the way I made two of the tentacles look like
gracefully outstretched arms ready to give her an embrace!

--Rob Moes





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:28:16 -0400
From: Ford_Theresa%SI@mr.nawcad.navy.mil
Subject: Re: Folding Thirds

Thank you for your marvelous suggestions on folding thirds.  The result of
which is that I created my first unique model (that I am asthetically (sp?)
pleased with anyway).  It is a rectangular box with two raised points
showing no creases or loose pieces of paper.  It has probably been done
before, but it was a fun exercise.  I plan on posting directions for folding
it on a web site shortly, along with the rather zany uses my family and
friends have suggested.

Thank you.  :)

T in Maryland





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:57:32 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Simple hedgehog?

Me too!
             ... Mark
>
> I would be interested in the 2D diagrams. Do you have diagrams for you new
> model? I would love that also if available.
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Name: Mike Kennon
> E-mail: mkennon@nando.net
> http://uptown.turnpike.net/M/mkennon/index.html
> Date: 11/25/95
> Time: 12:26:38
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ---------------Original Message---------------
>
> > Speaking for myself, I'd like to see the porcupine, since its quills are
> > much longer (proportionately) than those of a hedgehog.
>
> Robert; I have just invented a hedgehog which has 4 VERY long spines. It
> comes from a bird-base.
>
> Just thought you'd like to know.
>
> BTW I have diags for an unpublished O'Hare hedgehog (2D profile, very simple
> but effective) which I can uuencode to anyone interested.....
>
>
> Nick Robinson
>
>
>
> ----------End of Original Message----------
>
>

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:30:30 -0400
From: "Stix, Robert - rks" <rks@hostara.ho.att.com>
Subject: SCISSORS made from paper?

Does anyone have a diagram for a PAIR OF SCISSORS  (i.e. scissors made by
folding paper)?

 -- Rob

email=





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:47:58 -0400
From: chiug@cognos.com (Grace Chiu)
Subject: MS Publisher 95

Does anyone have Microsoft Publisher 95?  I got a flyer in the mail
about the new version for Windows95.  It has an origami Page Wizard (template).
Yep.  Right there next to a paper airplane template.   I'm curious to know
if this is something useable for origami diagramming or if it's just some
gimpy template for folding a flapping bird.  There is a flapping bird depicted
on the icon for the Page Wizard.

Let me know so I can decide if I wanna make MS $50 richer.

Regards,

Grace

---
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Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa, ON, Canada
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:09:12 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.COM
Subject: your mileage may vary...

 I was able to unsubscribe in one attempt last September when I went on
 vacation.  And I was able to subscribe again in October when I returned,
 again in only one attempt.

 Are you sending the request to the proper server?
 namely:  listserver@nstn.ca

 John Andrisan
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:19:04 -0400
From: Iron Will Dawes <wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: flirtatious folds

Dear Wooer,
  How far along in the courtship process are you? If you're just an
interested acquaintance right now, try something cute like any of the
following:

panda from "Origami Sculptures" (John Montroll)
angelfish or goldfish from "Origami Sea Life" (Montroll and Lang)
Icarus or Pegasus from "Mythical Beings" (Jay Ansill)

  If you've already expressed mutual romantic intentions or are close
to doing so, go a little further thusly:

valentine from "Origami: from Angelfish to Zen" (Peter Engel), as was
suggested by another
anything from "Origami Hearts" or "More Origami Hearts" (Francis Ow)
rose in bottle from "Origami for the Connoisseur" (Kasahara and
Takahawa, I think)

  The rose by Kawasaki was an excellent idea. As for myself, my most
"successful" such venture was folding a paper sculpture of the young
lady's face, an idea inspired by Yoshizawa Akira's origami
self-portrait. While this is an interesting practical application of
folding, I hope that you would give origami as readily to a male (or
female in whom you're not interested romantically) as you would to
this particularly lady. Good luck!
                              -William R. Dawes
P.S. Speaking from personal experience, do not use any of Montroll's,
Lang's or Giunta's insects for this particular endeavor. They are true
works of art and impressive beyond description, but the reaction of
the recipient is never what I hope for.





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:10:47 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: LaFosse videos

Michael LaFosse has 5 videos so far;

"Traditional Origami"
"Butterflies & moths"
"Happy good-luck bats & Horseshoe crab"
"Planes for brains"
"Sea Turtle & KOI"

These can be had for $24.95 from;

Alexander Blace & Co. Inc.
170 Margin Street,
Hverhill
MA 01832-5109

Or OUSA Source. (Members will get a %10 discount)

Ain't seen any myself, but they're sure to be good value.

Nick Robinson





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:00:13 -0400
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Re: SCISSORS made from paper?

Joseph Wu,

You might want to help Rob since you have a Scissors model.

> Does anyone have a diagram for a PAIR OF SCISSORS  (i.e. scissors made by
> folding paper)?
>
>  -- Rob

Yusri





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:53:43 -0400
From: Mike Kennon <mkennon@nando.net>
Subject: RE: LaFosse videos

Is that $24.95 each or $24.95 for the set?

-------------------------------------
Name: Mike Kennon
E-mail: mkennon@nando.net
Date: 11/27/95
Time: 16:56:56
-------------------------------------

>Michael LaFosse has 5 videos so far;
>
>"Traditional Origami"
>"Butterflies & moths"
>"Happy good-luck bats & Horseshoe crab"
>"Planes for brains"
>"Sea Turtle & KOI"
>
>These can be had for $24.95 from;
>
>Alexander Blace & Co. Inc.
>170 Margin Street,
>Hverhill
>MA 01832-5109
>
>Or OUSA Source. (Members will get a %10 discount)
>
>Ain't seen any myself, but they're sure to be good value.
>
>Nick Robinson





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:19:01 -0400
From: chiug@cognos.com (Grace Chiu)
Subject: LaFosse's Wet Penguin

Miraculously, I seem to be able to post again.  So here's another
question that I've been saving up:

At the OUSA convention this summer, Michael LaFosse ran a class on how
to wet fold a penguin.  It looked like a really cool and elegant model
(and WOO material, IMHO, gentlemen).  Unfortunately, I was unable to clone
myself and went to Marc K's Fluffy the bear (another favourite fold) class
which was at the same time.  I do know that Michael was supposed to distribute
instructions to those in attendance.  Has anyone received them?  Or do you
know if he's going to publish them or video them some time soon?

All I want for Christmas...

Regards,

Grace
---
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Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa, ON, Canada
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:35:13 -0400
From: Mary Jane Heussner <rgtmjh@gsusgi2.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Re: LaFosse videos

On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Nick Robinson wrote:

> Michael LaFosse has 5 videos so far;
...[stuff deleted]...
>
>
> Ain't seen any myself, but they're sure to be good value

I have the butterfly and moth video and it's great.  I haven't watched it
all the way through yet (there are so many models), but I love each one
I've done so far.  As far as I can tell from what I've seen, they're
ordered by complexity and watching the video is much like sitting in on a
La Fosse class at the convention:  the directions are very clear and he
mentions places where the viewer could deviate from his steps in order to
come up with a variation.  I like having a record of his verbal
explanations of folds--it helps me teach other people more successfully.

And to answer a subsequent list question, the $24.95 is each, not for the
set.

Mary Jane





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:21:03 -0400
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: "ORU" Magazine

     Is someone still looking for an issue of "ORU" magazine?  I happened
     to see one that had been special-ordered for a customer of the shop
     where I get my paper, books, and other "Japanabilia."

     This is the largest importer in my area, and they told me they would
     be happy to get hold of "ORU" for anyone.  I'm sure they can find
     other books and such, too, if anyone is interested.  The issue I saw,
     from Summer 1993, was $35, and the owner-to-be was going to pick it up
     in person.  It's not for the faint-of-finances.

     I think I "overread" some messages proclaiming the beauty of the
     origami models in "ORU."  Indeed, there were photographs of some of
     the most beautiful and complex models and exotic papers I had ever
     seen.  It's a treat for the eyes!

     If it's convenient enough for you...

     Anzen Book Co.
     503/626-7252 (located in Beaverton, Oregon, a suburb of Portland)
     Everyone there speaks English, and most everyone there speaks
     Japanese.

     Happy folding!  Continued unconditional encouragement!  (That's what I
     like most about this list thing!)

     - Jennifer in Portland, Oregon, USA





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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:06:35 -0400
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: SCISSORS made from paper?

On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Yusri Johan wrote:

> Joseph Wu,
>
> You might want to help Rob since you have a Scissors model.
>
> > Does anyone have a diagram for a PAIR OF SCISSORS  (i.e. scissors made by
> > folding paper)?

Alas, as usual, no diagrams. Here's a quick synopsis: Make a bird base.
Sink the centre point in half. Open two flaps so that there are 2 flaps up
and 2 flaps down. Triple sink each of the side corners to thin the model
down to 1/4 the width. Use two of the newly formed long flaps for the
scissor blades, and reverse fold the other two into a rounded shape for the
handles. Colour change the handles if desired. Good luck!

Joseph Wu  <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>  <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view. Explore the vessel.
Make friends with the Captain. Fish a little. And then get off when you get
Home.                                                     --Max Lucado





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:10:13 -0400
From: LapinPub@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Bats!

The best model of which I know is LaFosse's Happy, good luck bat, which was
published in the '95 OUSA annual.  I also think the diagrams are in the
origami Archives and Joseph Wu's home page whom I'm sure will pipe up and
give the url of if it is so...
J.C. Nolan (LapinPub@aol.com)





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:36:29 -0400
From: Laurie Bisman <lbisman@sirranet.co.nz>
Subject: RE: MS Publisher 95

Yes, I have the program (actually the previous version also had some origami).

This version has four origami models and four paper-plane models (also origami
     of course!)

The origami models are

        Simple CUP
               square folded into a triangle
               two sides folded in
               two flaps folded down

        Boat
               Made from rectangular paper
               start by making pirate hat
               etc
               It is the boat that you can tell a story about
               about being shipwrecked and by tearing pieces
               off you end up with the captains shirt and the words
               HELL

        Parrot
               Basically, just a diamond base
               outside reverse fold for the tail
               two inside reverses for neck and head
               form the beak

        Crane
               Traditional

Paper planes are

        Classic

        Wing-tip Wonder

        Stubby

        Whirligig (spins like sycamore seed)

I don't know whether the program would be very easy to draw diagrams with. I
     will do some and check it out.

Hope this helps..

        Laurie Bisman, New Zealand.

>Does anyone have Microsoft Publisher 95?  I got a flyer in the mail
>about the new version for Windows95.  It has an origami Page Wizard
     >(template).
>Yep.  Right there next to a paper airplane template.   I'm curious to know
>if this is something useable for origami diagramming or if it's just some
>gimpy template for folding a flapping bird.  There is a flapping bird >depicted
>on the icon for the Page Wizard.

>Let me know so I can decide if I wanna make MS $50 richer.

>Regards,

>Grace





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:58:58 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: MS Publisher 95

<<MS Publisher origami page wizards..>>

Sounds to me like the same thing as in a copy
of Publisher (for Windows 3.1) that came preinstalled on
a GW2000 system we bought the bookkeeper last year. (We're
not fans of MS software, but they were going to throw in
something, and this bundle included a copy of Corel 4...)

I checked the wizards out before dumping Publisher off the
hard drive: it was just "wimpy" little diagrams; "cute", but
not likely to be of any help in setting up diagrams...

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:00:46 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: St. George's Star

<<she remembered her
brother doing this as a project for school (in the 70s)>>

..hmmm...

this description makes me wonder if this isn't the "Ninja
Throwing Star", which is as I recall, "traditional", and
so the sort of thing one's brother might encounter in school
25 years ago. This was described on the list sometime last
summer I think. Anyone?

--valerie





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:59:51 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: flirtatious folds

Will Dawes wrote:
<<do not use any of Montroll's,
Lang's or Giunta's insects for this particular endeavor. They are true
works of art and impressive beyond description, but the reaction of
the recipient is never what I hope for.
>>

Will, you don't mean they ran for the nearest exit screaming, by
any chance?  :-)

I have the most profound admiration & respect for these creations,
and collect all the books, but not being a fan of things that
creep & crawl, the little critters are so darned realistic that
I keep the books in the opposite end of the house, just in case
something actually crawls out of one some dark night...

Isn't it wonderful that, with more species of "bugs", 6 and 8
legge,d than any other form of life, we can look forward to an
endless procession of these wonders, as long as the paper supply
holds out..? I wonder if these gentlemen cringe at the
disappearance of each acre of rainforest, with its untold species
of undiscovered insects?

On the original subject:

If the relationship is sufficiently advanced, there are some great
origami boxes that would serve splendidly to present a ring...

--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:21:39 -0400
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: Bats!

On Tue, 28 Nov 1995 LapinPub@aol.com wrote:

> The best model of which I know is LaFosse's Happy, good luck bat, which was
> published in the '95 OUSA annual.  I also think the diagrams are in the
> origami Archives and Joseph Wu's home page whom I'm sure will pipe up and
> give the url of if it is so...

Yes, it is. The URL is in my .signature below.

Joseph Wu  <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>  <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view. Explore the vessel.
Make friends with the Captain. Fish a little. And then get off when you get
Home.                                                     --Max Lucado





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:23:56 -0400
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Origami Records on the Web

I've added a page with John Smith's list of origami records (John, this
is the revised version). Take a gander and let John know if there's
anything you want to add to the list. Happy superlativating!

Joseph Wu  <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>  <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view. Explore the vessel.
Make friends with the Captain. Fish a little. And then get off when you get
Home.                                                     --Max Lucado





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 02:08:44 -0400
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.com
Subject: Propeller Unit -- SUCCESS!!!

fellow folders of paper,,,

thanks to all those who sent email regarding the Propeller Units
in Fuse's "Unit Origami"

i've finally had SUCCESS with the Propeller Units
and made a Regular Tetrahedron 4-Unit Assembly
which turned out pretty darn well
if i don't say so myself

it holds itself together pretty well out of 9 3/4 inch paper

i went on to fold a 6-Unit Open Frame II -- Plain
out of 6 inch paper
which turned out to be rather "wobbly" and unstable
e.g. i couldn't throw it across the room to my wife
     and say "hey, i made this"
     like i did with the 4-Unit Propeller Unit Assembly

would the 6-Unit Assembly be a little more stable using smaller paper???
are some Unit Models more suitable or designed for a specific size paper???

i find that especially for Neale's Squared Square
that using 6-inch paper produces a "wobbly" cube
whereas using 3-inch or 1 3/4 inch paper produces a far superior model
in terms of stability

any suggestions on these or other Unit Models
as far as size of paper is concerned

---

c         _     m                       MAKE THINGS HAPPEN
 o        \\     i
  l      ((\\     c
   o      (\___    r        -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    s      ||       o         -=-=-=-=-=-                        -=-=-=-=-=-
     s  ========     s          -=-=-=-=-    jack thomas weres   -=-=-=-=-
      a               c           -=-=-=-                        -=-=-=-
       l               o            -=-=- jtweres@psp.ih.att.com -=-=-
                        p             -=-                        -=-
                         e              -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 02:28:16 -0400
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.com
Subject: Large Crane -- More on Paper Size

fellow folders of paper,,,

i've also just completed a Traditional Crane with mixed results

seeing all this recent email regarding World's Largest Origami
i thought to stretch MY Largest Origami Record
and folded a Traditional Crane out of 48 inch Fadeless Art Paper
which i cut from the roll

i was filled with excitement knowing that i would have a "huge" Crane
present in my sight in a short time

however
       the folded result left me less than "totally pleased"

it seems that the size of the model combined with the paper quality
made the wings droop and the head and tail flop forward/backward
respectively

this made me think of how these 31 meter Cranes look in reality
SURE
    you have a world's record
    but how does it look

    or was the 31 meter paper made out of cardboard
    so that the wings would stay up and the head not flop forward

this experience combined with my earlier posting of unit origami
regarding paper sizes has left me to muse that

        "paper is a fickle mistress"

which is a variation of a phrase i use when flying my stunt kite
i.e.
        "wind is a fickle mistress"

i guess when things don't initially turn out the way i initially planned
it's always the fault of that "fickle mistress"

the more learned about paper would indeed fix "paper as a fickle mistress"
don't you agree???

although when flying a stunt kite
-- no matter how good one may be --
the statement "wind is a fickle mistress" remains true

so much for the post-midnight musings

---

c         _     m                       MAKE THINGS HAPPEN
 o        \\     i
  l      ((\\     c
   o      (\___    r        -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    s      ||       o         -=-=-=-=-=-                        -=-=-=-=-=-
     s  ========     s          -=-=-=-=-    jack thomas weres   -=-=-=-=-
      a               c           -=-=-=-                        -=-=-=-
       l               o            -=-=- jtweres@psp.ih.att.com -=-=-
                        p             -=-                        -=-
                         e              -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:11:24 -0400
From: Penny <Penny@sector.demon.co.uk>
Subject: A toast to the listmanager!

I subscribed to the list and my address was altered when it arrived, apparently
because it was delayed at this end it was kept by demon in a 'waiting box' and
when it finally reached origami-l it began with @post before the address I use.
This address was in the recipients list and when I sent messages that got there
ok they were not recognised because they did not have @post  as a prefix.

I wrote to the list manager and you will see from the bit of his reply that I
have copied, he has lots of lists to deal with, he did however delete the
offending addresses( I'd tried to subscribe again and this time it said @relay3,
the 3rd time I got on the list OK)

This is what he wrote:
           * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

The system uses a field called the "Envelope From_".  The author says that
it uses that because it is more difficult to forge than the From: field.
All hundred mailing lists, and 10,000 subscribers on our system are
subscribed in exactly the same way, using the Envelope From_ field.

         * * * * * * * * * * *  * * * * * * * * * *

Penny

PS The BOS 1996 rates are set now, if you are interested in joining and have
been put off by the expense of the $ rate you are in luck, we are taking credit
card payment from overseas members now (mastercard & visa) so you will pay the
sterling rate that way. It's 19 pounds for Europe and 24 pounds for the rest of
the world. My imprinter arrived this morning so I'm in business!!!

------------------------------------------
Penny Groom                :(  Membership Secretary        :(
                           :)  British Origami Society.    :)
penny@sector.demon.co.uk





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:13:02 -0400
From: jamesc@s3dub.ie (James Coleman)
Subject: Re: St. George's Star

 >
 >
 > ..hmmm...
 >
 > this description makes me wonder if this isn't the "Ninja
 > Throwing Star", which is as I recall, "traditional", and
 > so the sort of thing one's brother might encounter in school
 > 25 years ago. This was described on the list sometime last
 > summer I think. Anyone?
 >
 > --valerie
 >
 >
Yep, I remember ......>>>>>>

From: Nick Robinson <Nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Throwing Star text

>  Does anyone want to attempt English/written-only directions

I'll try....

1) Cut a square in half and fold each half in half to give 2 4*1 strips
(or quarter fold 2 squares, etc. etc.)

2) fold the short edges together marking the half-way point, unfold.
Repeat with t'other sheet.

3) fold two diagonally opposite corners at 45 degrees to meet the
opposite long edge. Repeat with the other strip, but fold to mirror the
first (a left & a right hand unit will eventually ensue - it's a bit
like Neales superb skeletal dodecahedron unit))

4) argghhh!!! the original short edges now lie alongside long edges.
fold each half of that long edge, starting at the centre crease, to meet
the centre crease. It leaves a triangle sticking out the other side.
Repeat at the other end (mirrored so the flaps oppose each other) &
twice on the other sheet.

Units complete

5) Turn one unit over and place the other on top of it at 90 degrees
rotation to it. The triangular flaps of the lower unit (formed in step
3) valley inwards along the original short edge and tuck into pockets on
the upper unit. Turn the whole thang over & tuck the other two
triangular flaps within. It should now be locked & completed.

If you can manage that you've done well, but it is 11.30 at night & my
brain's a bit frazzled!

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****
                       my wife doesn't agree!!!
          http://sonja.acad.cai.cam.ac.uk/alex/nickdata.html





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:49:37 -0400
From: parkmaam@gol.com (M. Schleicher P. Saalbach)
Subject: Re: flirtatious folds

William R. Dawes wrote:
>P.S. Speaking from personal experience, do not use any of Montroll's,
>Lang's or Giunta's insects for this particular endeavor. They are true
>works of art and impressive beyond description, but the reaction of
>the recipient is never what I hope for.

Now, personally speaking, a jumbo tropic-sized cockroach warmed the fuzzy
cockles of my husband's heart (from Momotani).  So did Kasahara's
rhinocerous beetle.  So don't think bugs don't have a place in romance!
(even if you're the gal folding for the guy, like me.)

And, by the way, my dad used to date a lady who really enjoyed snakes.  Does
yours?  If so, there are some pretty fun snakes out there to fold.  (Ick!
Sure glad he didn't marry her!)

Pamela
parkmaam@gol.com
Pamela Saalbach
parkmaam@gol.com





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:45:02 -0400
From: marmonk@eskimo.com (Mark Morden)
Subject: Bill Gates will kill money folds

The Seattle Times is running excerpts from Bill Gates' new book in which he
describes his vision of the future.  Last night he talked about the PC
wallet and digital money.  Apparently he has decided there will be no use
for paper money in the future.  We will all have electronic credits that we
will download to a stores computer from our PC wallets.  If this becomes
reality, then there will be no more dollar bills to fold.  Money folds will
become a long lost art.  After paying for a meal at a restaurant we won't be
able to leave a cute little elephant in the tip.  Would a little hologram
elephant projected from our wallet PC be the same? I don't think so.  What a
cold future awaits those of us with nimble fingers.

Mark

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I belive in the rising sun;
not because I see it but by it I see all else.
                                           C.S. Lewis





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:16:16 -0400
From: Lisa.Hodsdon/School/hmco@Owl.nstn.CA
Subject: My Address (was RE: bookbinding)

I apologize for all the confusion. There are two problems.

First, because my mail program includes a correct address
for the sender of each message, it didn't occur to me that
the same isn't true for everyone else.

Second, my last name isn't easy to spell, so if you got
the correct address from my message, you may have
mispelled it.

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Lisa Hodsdon
lisa_hodsdon@hmco.com





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:35:10 -0400
From: Lisa.Hodsdon/School/hmco@Owl.nstn.ca
Subject: Re: Molecular Origami

Richard Kennedy asked about:
>Molecular Origami (Precision Scale Models from Paper)  by  Robert Hanson

I've seen it, and was disappointed. The book includes patterns to cut and
paste various molecules. The patterns are "nets" for polyhedra rather
that folding instructions. Few of them were complicated enough to be
of much interest.

Lisa Hodsdon
lisa_hodsdon@hmco.com





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:27:56 -0400
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Bill Gates will kill money folds

In message <199511281342.FAA11227@mail.eskimo.com> Mark Morden wrote:
..
+wallet and digital money.  Apparently he has decided there will be no use
+for paper money in the future.  We will all have electronic credits that we
+will download to a stores computer from our PC wallets.  If this becomes
+reality, then there will be no more dollar bills to fold.  Money folds will
+become a long lost art.

I don't think so.  If you have the chance to look at some BOS Annual
Convention Books you will find $bill folds.  I was very puzzled by this.
Then I saw a small blurb next to one of the diagrams saying that if you take
1:squareRoot(2) paper (A4, A5, etc. etc.) and cut a rectangle off of one end
to make a square piece of paper, the rectangle you cut off has the same
proportions as the US $ bill.

Never fear, it will be very easy to generate $bill shaped paper for a long
time to come.  Not nearly as convenient perhaps...

-Doug





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 11:35:27 -0400
From: mc0491r@acad.drake.edu (Michael Cheney)
Subject: Holiday Origami

Greetings-

I am a newbie to this list, but have had a number of years of paperfolding
experience.

I am looking for some exciting and different origami models that might be
used on Christmas trees, holiday gifts, etc.

Either e-mail me privately or share with the list.

Thanks.

Michael Cheney
mc0491r@acad.drake.edu





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:43:49 -0400
From: ACPQUINN@myriad.middlebury.edu
Subject: RE: Bill Gates will kill money folds

On the other hand, Mark, old paper money will likely still be around but
totally worthless.  You can still fold it but not spend it ... although this
will cut down on folding tips in restaurants :P
-Alasdair





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:42:14 -0400
From: kkinney@med.unc.edu (Kevin Kinney)
Subject: Re: Bill Gates will kill money folds

> +wallet and digital money.  Apparently he has decided there will be no use
> +for paper money in the future.  We will all have electronic credits that we
> +will download to a stores computer from our PC wallets.  If this becomes
> +reality, then there will be no more dollar bills to fold.  Money folds will
> +become a long lost art.

<Middle deleted>

> Never fear, it will be very easy to generate $bill shaped paper for a long
> time to come.  Not nearly as convenient perhaps...

Nevertheless, perhaps we should start hoarding dollar bills (I knew they
were good for something :)  )

Kevin Kinney
kkinney@med.unc.edu





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:44:32 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: A toast to the listmanager!

Yikes! The poor listmanager!
I hope he doesn't regret hosting our list!
--valerie





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:44:19 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Propeller Unit -- SUCCESS!!!

Jack,

Congrats on the propeller unit success! You do need to use relatively thin
paper, ie thin with respect to the size of the square, and fold accurately,
as the many layer and unsymetrical shape tend to introduce angular errors
that make a neat tight finish difficult.

On the 6-unit Open Frame (I call these "strut modules") model:
As Fuse says herself, these have a tendency to wobble, especially the
version with the bi-color faces. The solid face one is the more stable of
the two. Still, construction tend to fail in both compression and torsion.

I would suggest using no bigger than 4-5 inch kami (regular origami paper),
and avoid getting any creases on the faces that aren't necessary in the
final construction.  The 90 unit (I think its 90), anyway the polyhedron with
squares and hexagons, with the hexagons filled in with triangles (ie the
hexagons take 12 units, but they're still plane/flat faces) turns out about
a foot in diameter from 4 3/4 in kami paper, and is quite stable from the
plain units.

Crease all the final folds really hard, especially with heavier paper.

--valerie





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:43:32 -0400
From: Jennifer Andre <JAndre@cfipro.com>
Subject: Re: Holiday Origami

     Hello, Mr. Cheney!  I, too, am a "newbie."

My first and all-time favorite book, "The World of Origami" by Isao Honda, has a
specific "recipe" for a Christmas ornament, if I remember correctly.  But why
let that limit you??  I have found that people are charmed by just about
anything you fold for the tree.  I'm no ribbon artist, so I attach simple
origami models to the tops of packages.

I've been folding for *gulp* -- uh, since I was 12.  I'm still an amateur, so my
advice is free and worth every penny.  Have fun!  Take chances!  (Attaching
"cotton" ball material to any critter can make it a "holiday" model!  Use your
already vast imagination!)

- Jennifer in Portland, Oregon, USA  :-)

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Holiday Origami
Author:  origami-l@nstn.ca at Internet
Date:    11/28/95 7:40 AM

Greetings-

I am a newbie to this list, but have had a number of years of paperfolding
experience.

I am looking for some exciting and different origami models that might be
used on Christmas trees, holiday gifts, etc.

Either e-mail me privately or share with the list.

Thanks.

Michael Cheney
mc0491r@acad.drake.edu





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:44:05 -0400
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: $1 proportions

 The U.S. dollar bill is 1:1+sqrt(2) which is easy to prove.
 Just fold a 45-45-90 triangle using one short edge, and then lay the
 hypotenuse onto the long edge.

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@mdcgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 15:27:39 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: RE: MS Publisher 95

I've got as well, but don't use it! The diagrams print out awfully (not
proportioned properly) but it's a start I suppose. Why didn't they ask
a folder to do it! The folDs are well average, but the layout has some
nice ideas though...

Nick Robinson





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 15:32:06 -0400
From: Iron Will Dawes <wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: Christmas ornaments

  Giunta (of whom I am a big fan) has a book out entitled "Divertitevi
con l'Origami" which has an excellent section on Christmas ornaments.
The book may be ordered from OUSA. Also, if you're extremely patient,
kusudama work well.
  By the way, I don't think there's any reason to believe Bill Gates'
predictions for the future will come to be. George Orwell did the same
thing in 1948. Keep folding those dollar bills!
                              -Will





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 15:11:33 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Large Crane -- More on Paper Size

I made a sailboat from 16 foot square paper once, then unfolded it &
turned it into a flapper, which *almost* worked :)

Nick Robinson





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:27:43 -0400
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Woo models

What about hearts? There are two wonderful collections by Francis Ow (I
think they are in the OUSA supplies list), and a third by David Petty. I
believe a 4th collection by Ow is to appear soon. I constructed a mobile
from a variety of different hearts for Valentine's Day a few years ago.
If you are wondering, it did not work! These things don't come with any
guarantees of future bliss.Good Luck.

Richard K.





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:25:19 -0400
From: jfryer@lib.ursinus.edu
Subject: RE: LaFosse's Wet Penguin

I was in the Wet Penguin class at the convention.  We did not work from
printed instructions.  Rather, we did two penguins simultaneously.  First
we did a fold on kami, then we repeated it wet on our "real" model.  He
very patiently led us step by step.  You missed a great workshop!

                                 Judith
                                 jfryer@lib.ursinus.edu





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:54:35 -0400
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Molecular Origami

Thanks to everyone who provided information about this book. It will
not be on my Xmas list. Instead I'd like ... . Go on, tell us all what
origami books you'd like this Christmas.

Richard K.





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:55:24 -0400
From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Subject: Re: $1 proportions

At 02:44 PM 11/28/95 -0400, you wrote:
>
> The U.S. dollar bill is 1:1+sqrt(2) which is easy to prove.
> Just fold a 45-45-90 triangle using one short edge, and then lay the
> hypotenuse onto the long edge.
>

This proportion is the same as the one used in John Montroll's Origami
Sculpture - making dollar bill proportion from square, which is an
approximation!

> John Andrisan
> IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@mdcgwy.mdc.com
>
>

This is an approximation!

3/7= 0.4285714285714
tan(22.5 degree)=1/(1+sqrt(2))= 0.4142135623731

It is about 3.47% error. It depends on how precise you want for a dollar
bill model.

---------------------------------------------------
Sy Chen <sychen@enh.nist.gov>
Origami Page - http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm
Shi-Yew Chen (Sy)
E-Mail - sychen@enh.nist.gov
WWW URL - http://www.iia.org/~chens/syhome.htm





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:58:43 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: flirtatious folds

> P.S. Speaking from personal experience, do not use any of Montroll's,
> Lang's or Giunta's insects for this particular endeavor. They are true
> works of art and impressive beyond description, but the reaction of
> the recipient is never what I hope for.

Yeah, the evening always did seem to go sour after I gave her the
cockroach...

Robert





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 18:02:52 -0400
From: Nick Robinson <nick@homelink.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: RE: LaFosse videos

In article: <Chameleon.4.01.2.951127165727.mkennon@MKennon.nando.net>
mkennon@nando.net writes:

> Is that $24.95 each or $24.95 for the set?

Each, sadly ;(

Nick Robinson





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:11:00 -0400
From: Pruess Family <AB10TP3412.cin@desnews.com>
Subject: Ghostscript

     I'm sorry for posting to the list, but I again have forgot the address for
the person I promised Ghostscript to.

     I actually used it for the first time the other day, and I tried to print
one of the diagrams out, but it messed up, and after that, it wouldn't even open
the PostScript documents.  So I turned off the computer and reinstalled, but it
still wouldn't work, I did that a few times, and got the same result.
     So, I was thinking that I won't send you the files because you probably
want a version of Ghostscript that works (I did not get this from the origami
archives).  Sorry.

John Pruess
utahjohn@aol.com
ab10tp3412.cin@desnews.com





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 21:56:42 -0400
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Nakanishi-san

Nakanishi-san has asked me to pass along his apologies for appearing to
ignore the origami-l messages from Nov. 22 to 27. His LAN setup was changed
at that time and he seems to have lost some of his e-mail.

Joseph Wu  <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>  <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html>
Approach life like a voyage on a schooner. Enjoy the view. Explore the vessel.
Make friends with the Captain. Fish a little. And then get off when you get
Home.                                                     --Max Lucado





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 22:49:31 -0400
From: PenneyA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Ghostscript

might of been me John, thats okay, thanks for trying.
                Penney





Return-path: <origami-l@nstn.ca>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 22:45:29 -0400
From: PenneyA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Propeller Unit -- SUCCESS!!!

isn't that a great feeling.  I have struggled with that blasted propeller
unit also, and come hell or high water I will go back to it one day and try
try again.          Penney





Return-path: <origami-l@nstn.ca>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 22:56:05 -0400
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (Shi-Yew Chen)
Subject: Re: Jurassic Origami

>In today's U.S. mail I received an advertising flyer for a book entitled
>"Jurassic Origami" by Edwin Ee (EPB Publishers Pte Ltd., Singapore). The
>book is available by mail order (from Singapore!). I would order it, except
>the cost is U.S. $18 plus U.S. $7.50 shipping and handling, and I'd like
>to avoid the shipping charges if the book is/will be available in this
>country.
>

I have not seen anyone's comments on this. Could anyone comment on Edwin
Ee's other published works? I vaguely recall this name in Origami USA annual
collections. Can anyone verify it for me? I don't have any of Origami USA
annual book.
TIA.
-----------------------------------------
Shi-Yew Chen (Sy)
E-Mail: sychen@enh.nist.gov
Origami Page - http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm





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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:05:44 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: BOS takes Plastic!

Penny,

Could you give more details on joining BOS by credit card?
Do we just use snail mail, or do you have a FAX? (Since sending
out credit card numbers via email is still not secure enough
to be recommended...)

thanx,
--valerie
Valerie Vann
75070.304@compuserve.com





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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 04:26:12 -0400
From: "Na. (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi)" <nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp>
Subject: Sorry, Not about Origami.../e-mail

Hello, all:

I was absent from this list because of network trouble on the
last weekend.  Unfortunately the e-mails reached to our gateway
from Nov. 22 to 27 seem to have been expired.  Please send me
your message BY MAIL if anyone expects my reply, or again send
me your mail sent to me, if you've sent such messages to me on
those days.

Please be careful to send me mail; I have new e-mail address.

Thank you very much for your quick response, Mr. MacKay.

On December we Origami Tanteidan will have the year-end party in
Tokyo.  I'm looking forward to seeing many members, especially
Kasahara-san because we rarely see him.

--
nakanish@pd.scei.sony.co.jp (NAKANISHI Ken-ichi, not Kenichi Nakanishi)
         =======
**** Mail Address Has Been Changed since Nov. 27 ****





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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:03:52 -0400
From: Penny <Penny@sector.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: BOS takes Plastic!

In your message dated Tuesday 28, November 1995 you wrote :
> Penny,
>
> Could you give more details on joining BOS by credit card?
> Do we just use snail mail, or do you have a FAX? (Since sending
> out credit card numbers via email is still not secure enough
> to be recommended...)
>
> thanx,
> --valerie
> Valerie Vann
> 75070.304@compuserve.com
>
>
Sorry I don't have a fax but if you want me to send (snail mail) details and an
application form, just give me your address and I'll do it. The new application
forms will be on Nick & Alex's WWW pages soon.

Looking forward to lots of new members from overseas now it's so simple to pay!

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Penny Groom                :(  Membership Secretary BOS
                           :)
penny@sector.demon.co.uk





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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:32:08 -0400
From: marmonk@eskimo.com (Mark Morden)
Subject: Re: Woo models

>I was wondering if I could "poll" the members of the list for their
>suggestions on the best, most striking models they have used (or would
>recommend to use) to impress a woman.  I've been seeing a young woman of
>exquisite taste (in other words- she LOVES the origami :) ) and I've made
>her a rose (Kawasaki's first, published in Connoisseur) with Joseph Wu's
>base, tucked inside of a Fuse box.
>
>She loved the butterfly ball, and the Koala from Gay Merrill Gross' "Art
>of Origami" (thanks for the book- lots of GREAT models)
>
>What else would the members of the list recommend?  I'd like to continue
>to impress her with the folding.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Rob
>
How can you go wrong with Hearts.  Peter Engle's Valentine (A 3-D heart with
and arrow through it) has always worked with my wife.  The right paper can
enhance the special quality that says you put an extra effort into making
and presenting just for her.

Mark

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
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I believe in Christianity as I belive in the rising sun;
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                                           C.S. Lewis
