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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 19:36:29 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: origami & geodesics

Tom Hull wrote via email:
 <<I always thought that the whole point of geodesic domes
was to study what types of spheres one could build solely out
of equilateral triangles.  That is, all the struts should be of
length one, making all the triangles equilaters.  Whenever you
have 6 struts coming together at a vertex, you'll have 6 equilateral
triangles, which form a flat plane when put together.  If every
vertex had 6 struts then there'd be no curvature and you wouldn't
make a sphere.  That's why you need some vertices with 5 struts>>

No, its fancier than that, Tom; If you can only use equilateral triangles you're
limited to the regular polys, and even then you'd end up with big "holes", like
the pentagon faces of the 150 strut poly I started with. So to get more struts
(= more structural, more support, bigger structures) you switch to different
length
struts to fill in the non-triangular faces, shortening them so that the vertices
of the
poly are located on the circumscribed sphere. You will notice if you look at the
210 strut poly I've described that THERE ARE 6 struts converging on a vertex,
but because the triangles aren't equilateral, you've still got "curvature". But
the ratio
of shorts to longs is close to 1:1 visually, so that when you look at a geodesic
dome,
you see 6 struts per vertex, think of hexagons, and wonder how the
heck did they do that, it looks geometrically impossible.  :-)
If you insist on equilateral triangles and max. 5 struts per vertex, you can't
get past
an icosahedron.

Calculating the length of the short struts is a nice little problem in polar
coordinates,
but in trying to answer the question I posed, I'm not going about it right
somehow, and
figured one of the resident math gurus could bail me out.

See some of the other replies I got, you might want to try this yourself.

By the way, the 150 edge poly of triangles & pentagons is one of those shown in
Fuse: Unit Origami & Kasahara:OFTC. Looks like a dodecahedron with triangles
linking the edges of the pentagons. Stick a five-faced pyramid of isoceles
triangles
on each of the 12 pentagons, and you'll have my 210 edge poly.

Anybody know the equation for calculating the radius of the sphere enclosing/
circumscribing the vertices of a regular polyhedron?

--valerie





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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 00:04:53 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Propeller Units

It been awhile since I folded Fuse Propeller Units, but I do recall
that very precise folding of the initial angles was required to get
the best tight assembly of multiunit forms.

Also, be sure to notice that the units are not tri-symetrical, that is,
the finished unit has one sharp pointed arm and two blunt ones, so
watch the diagrams carefully and don't try to apply the folds for one
arm to the others.

Then: did you notice that there are two main variations of the unit?
The icosahedron 12-unit photo on p 115 is the plainer variation with
the triangular faces of the icosahedron divided into 3 kite-shaped
"tiles" on some faces, and other "tile" configurations on other faces.

The other model in the photo on p 117 is the fancier
variation: each triangular face of the 20-unit icosahedron is divided
into 6 triangular tiles.

There are also I think at least 4 ways of joining the units, depending
on what you're trying to build. 2 ways are typical flap-into-pocket
joins, and the third (p114) also involves a sort of "hooked" flap.
(p.112, p.114, p.116, 2 versions.)

Now, about the "invert step 117.." I think this is a mistake.
Go to p.112 step18. Turn it over to get p.116 step18 before the folds
are made.

Now carefully compare the fold lines of p.112 step 19 with
p.116 step 18. On p.116 the upper layer is lifted up and squash
folded toward the center of the unit, making a sort of extra layer
on top of the center triangle of the propeller.

I'm a little uncertain about what next (without folding up one to
try it out), but I believe that the tetrahedron in the photo on
p.117 is constructed by the "reverse assembly" method at the lower
left of p116, and the 20-unit model in the same photo uses the
joining method that starts on p. 116 and continues on p. 117.

See if that helps, and if you're still (or more) confused, yell
at me again, and I give it another shot. :-)

--valerie
Valerie Vann        compuserve: 75070,304
                      Internet: 75070.304@compuserve.com
>> He bought a large map representing the sea,             <<
>> without the least vestige of land;                      <<
>> And the crew were much pleased when they found it to be <<
>> A map they could all understand... [Carroll: Hunting of the Snark<<





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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:20:08 -0300
From: "M.J.van.Gelder" <M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Re: origami & geodesics

Valerie,

m> By the way, the 150 edge poly of triangles & pentagons is one of those shown
     in
m> Fuse: Unit Origami & Kasahara:OFTC. Looks like a dodecahedron with triangles
m> linking the edges of the pentagons. Stick a five-faced pyramid of isoceles
m> triangles
m> on each of the 12 pentagons, and you'll have my 210 edge poly.

It is also in the Japanese version of The Connoisseur (TOP ORIGAMI).

m> Anybody know the equation for calculating the radius of the sphere enclosing/
m> circumscribing the vertices of a regular polyhedron?

I don't know, but I did some calculation on it.
When your shorter struts are 0.94 the center of the 5 struts is slightly
above the pentagon. The angle between the plane of one of the triangles and
the plane of the pentagon is 25 degrees.
I took the polyhedron of pentagons and calculated the angle between the
planes of the pentagons. They are 68 degrees.
When you add the equlateral triangles the angle between the planes will be
about half the angle just mentioned: about 34 degrees.
Then I had to make an approximation (I can't do it exactly ...). The planes
between the shorter struts and the pentagon should make an angle of 11
degrees. That fixes the shorter struts on 0.86.
So the approximation is in computing the angle. When you agree on that the
struts should be 0.86.

If you want to know exactly you should indeed consult the Math gurus.

Maarten van Gelder, Rekencentrum RuG, RijksUniversiteit Groningen, Holland





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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:09:51 -0300
From: Winson Chan <winsonc@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: origami & geodesics

> m> Anybody know the equation for calculating the radius of the sphere
     enclosing/
> m> circumscribing the vertices of a regular polyhedron?
>
A cheap way to do it pretend the the polyhedron is indeed a sphere and
estimate the surface area by adding up the areas of all the triangles and
getting the radius from there using the formula 4(pi)(r)^2.  The larger
the polyhedron, the more accurate you approximation will be.  I've done
this before and It was accurate to within a few percent.
--
Winson Chan
Electronic Engineering
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, Canada





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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:15:46 -0300
From: David Eisner <cradle@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: RE: For the creators

(This is from Peter Engel's _Origami: from Angelfish to Zen_, published by
Dover Publications, Inc. and  originally published as _Folding the Universe:
     Origami from Angelfish to Zen_)

THE FLOATING SQUARE

I saw a square of paper floating through space.

    One day, I decided to invent an origami snake.  I knew of dozens of snakes
     in the origami repertoire -- pythons and sidewinders,diamondbacks and boas
     -- but they were all pretty much the same.  To make the longest possible
     snake from a square, the fol

   When I had seen one too many pythonsidewinderdiamondbackboas, I knew it was
     time to invent a snake of my own.  I couldn't get the idea out of my head:
     MY snake would be different.  But I had no idea how to start.  I conjured
     up images of snakes that I

  At that moment, images flashed before me as my mind racded to find a
     solution.  I saw a square of paper floating through space.  On the square
     was a pattern of horizontal lines.  I pictured the square rolled into a
     tube, but now the edges of the square

  The rest of the task, the execution, took two months.

------------

David





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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 18:46:38 -0300
From: bryan@sgl.ists.ca (Bryan Feir)
Subject: Re: For the creators

   All IMHO, of course...

>       As long as I've been folding, I've always been amazed by the quality
> and the sameness that existed between the model and the origami. Thus I was
> wondering if there were any method to create an origami. Do people fold and
> by hazard happen to obtain something that look alike an animal or whatever
> else, or have automatically the idea of how preparing the fold to obtain the
> origami.  That is : do creators start from the real model ?or do they start
> from nothing and happen to achieve a model ?

   It all depends on the creator, to some extent.  Many creators do in
fact start from a picture of the animal or object they want to model and
figure out a way to do it; I've heard that John Montroll (who does show
up here at times) has been known to pick up a book on animals and just
go through it one picture at a time, creating an origami model for that.

   As for methods to create origami... there are some.

   I've only created a couple of figures, mostly simple ones, but there
are a few starting ideas.  One of the first things you should do is look
at the figure you're trying to create.  Remember that origami is sort of
like caricature: the more obvious and blatant something is, the easier it
is to model it.  Rabbits are fairly easy with the long ears, for example;
lions are the easiest cat to make because of the mane.  Pick out the most
distinctive features of the animal or figure you're trying to model, and
concentrate on those.

   Also, count points.  A 'point' is a projection from the main body of
the figure.  The most common base, the 'bird base', has four points from
the centre; the frog base can be treated as having five; Montroll's Dog
base has six.  I've seen bases with eight or more points.  Getting the
right number of points to work with early on can be a key in creating a
new model.  The simple rabbit I created years ago, for example, worked
from a bird base by taking one point for the head, two for the ears, and
the fourth point for the rest of the body.

>            Thanks a lot; I'd like myself to create and don't know how yet.

   Practice... learn to understand what the paper is going to look like
when you fold it, learn to feel how the paper is going to be able to fold.
Figure out the difference between an inside and an outside reverse fold,
and which will be most appropriate for an attempt to bend something a
particular way.  Once you understand the basic building blocks, then
putting them together in a new way becomes simpler.

---------------------------+---------------------------------------------------
Bryan Feir           VE7GBF|"A half-truth, like a half-brick, is more forcible
bryan@sgl.ists.ca          | in an argument than a whole one...
                           | it carries further."     -- Stephen Leacock





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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 08:09:19 -0300
From: LapinPub@aol.com
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI-L digest 133

In a message dated 95-10-27 10:04:33 EDT, you write:

>
>       As long as I've been folding, I've always been amazed by the quality
>and the sameness that existed between the model and the origami. Thus I was
>wondering if there were any method to create an origami. Do people fold and
>by hazard happen to obtain something that look alike an animal or whatever
>else,
>or have automatically the idea of how preparing the fold to obtain the
>origami.
>That is : do creators start from the real model ?or do they start from
>nothing
>and happen to achieve a model ?
>
>
>             Thanks a lot; I'd like myself to create and don't know how yet.
>
>Mathieu Ciarlet ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr

That's exactly what my book, "Creating Origami" is all about.  Taking a look
at how one goes about actually designing models.  You can purchase it though
the OUSA supply center or "ffolds@aol.com".

J.C. Nolan (LapinPub@aol.com)





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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 21:08:30 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Geodesic origami serendipidty

I don't know yet whether its just coincidence or related to
the geometry, but it turns out that two of the rectangular
paper proportions that I use to make the "struts" (the modular
unit can be made from just about any rectangle) yield
proportions between the longer and shorter struts of
0.85:1 and 0.87:1, right in there with the 0.86 approximation
of the previous discussion here!

So the Origami Geodesic Sphere is under construction...

--valerie
Valerie Vann  compuserve: 75070,304
                INTERNET: 75070.304@compuserve.com
>> It is the art of engineering to reach         <<
>> sufficient conclusions from insufficient data <<





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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 02:29:12 -0400
From: James_Sakoda@Brown.edu (James Minoru Sakoda)
Subject: Re: For the creators

>
>        As long as I've been folding, I've always been amazed by the quality
>and the sameness that existed between the model and the origami. Thus I was
>wondering if there were any method to create an origami. Do people fold and
>by hazard happen to obtain something that look alike an animal or whatever
>else,
>or have automatically the idea of how preparing the fold to obtain the origami.
>That is : do creators start from the real model ?or do they start from nothing
>and happen to achieve a model ?
>
>
>                Thanks a lot; I'd like myself to create and don't know how yet.
>
>
>Mathieu Ciarlet ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr
>"May the fold be with you"
Different people approach the problem of creation in different ways.  In
general there are two ways to go about it, have an object and figure a way
toward it or to wander about until one sees an object and then go for it.
My approach has been of the latter type, but perhaps with a difference.  My
first succesful attempt at creation was achieved when I managed to sink the
center point of a bird base, and then went on to make an eight point star.
This involved making eight points of equal length, in the process making
not only petal folds, but also a whole series of diagonal folds.  Then when
I began to unfold the star objects began to appear immediatately, and I
could see the form of animals, many of them which I could make without more
than a few moves.  As a matter of fact, I tried to keep the moves on the
existing creases and not make arbitrary folds or push the paper around as
some like to do.  The result is that the design retains the basic pattern
of creases originally made, giving the object a stylized look.  The
advantage of this approach is that whatever is made is not forced or
awkward.  I also tried to avoid details such as crooks in the leg, and
aimed to highlight a feature that distinguished the object, such as the
ears of a rabbit, the eyes of an owl, the praying attitude of a praying
mantis.  There were times when considerable amount of trial and error was
required to reach a satisfactory solution.  Improvements sometimes were
made months afterwards.  In the process one learns to make many kinds of
moves.  For the bird and frog base one can sink the center point, stretch
the bird base, narrow the flaps, open out the flaps, flip the flaps over to
change its color,  combine the bird and frog base, blintz fold, blintz fold
twice, move the center of the bird base.  Move on to accordion pleats
parallel to the edges, increase the number of creases to 8, 16, 32.  Add
diagonal creases in the same way.  Start with a rectangle, triangle,
pentagon, hexagon, long strip of paper.  Take someone's folding and begin
taking it apart and putting it together again differently.  The initial
approach  that I used can be followed in my now out of print Modern
Origami, published by Simon and Schuster in 1969.  It may be available
through your local library.  James M. Sakoda





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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 07:27:34 -0400
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Proceedings of 2nd International Meeting of Origami Science

There may be other people besides me who have been ansiously waiting for
publication of the OTSU convention in November 1994. I have had the
following Fax from Professor Miura which may be of inetrest.

Dear Mr. Smith

Thank you for your letter.

The proceedings of the 2nd International Meeting of Origami Science and
Scientific Origami will be published in Merch 1996(the end of the fiscal
year of the University).

Excuse us for the delay. Translation of some Japanese papers take a lot of time.

We will inform the completion of the proceedings to all participants of the
Meeting.

Koryo Miura
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 11:37:35 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: origami & geodesics

Mathematica has a nice package for doing fun stuff with regular polyhedra.
Here is some code that returns the circumradius of the five unit Platonic
solids, followed by the desired circumradii.

In[1]:=
<<Graphics`Polyhedra`

In[2]:=
Circumradius[name_] :=
  Module[{f = Polyhedron[name], v1, v2},
         v1 = f[[1, 1, 1, 1]];
         v2 = f[[1, 1, 1, 2]];
         Sqrt[Plus @@ (v1^2)] / Sqrt[Plus @@ ((v1 - v2)^2)]]

In[3]:=
{#, Circumradius[#]}& /@ Polyhedra[[{1, 2, 3, 4, 5}]]

Out[3]=
{{Tetrahedron, 0.612372},
 {Cube, 0.866025},
 {Octahedron, 0.707107},
 {Dodecahedron, 1.40126},
 {Icosahedron, 0.951057}}

It's also very easy in Mathematica to "geodesify" polyhedra, i.e, subdivide
the faces into triangles with all vertices falling on a sphere. Roman Maeder
wrote an advanced package called "UnitPolyhedra" that appeared in The
Mathematica Journal (volume 3, issue 4) that can among other things,
geodesify any polyhedron (and modular-folders take note: it also computes all
the coordinates, faces, and vertices of the fifty-nine stellations of the
icosahedron!). But it's not too hard to roll your own for simple stuff like
the above.

Robert





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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 11:32:24 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: math in origami

>>>> Robert....can you give me some idea of what models you used in your talk
at
DeKalb.  I am giving a talk on Origami in Math at the math dept of a local
University next month.  Plan to show how to make hexagons, equilateral
triangles, trisect an angle, how to make a pyramid, etc.  This is for
teachers of 5th to 8th graders.  Thanks.

I showed photographs of the traditional crane (from a page of the
Kan-no-mado), the traditional bird, frog, swan, and fish, and photos of a
deer, centipede, the Black Forest Cuckoo Clock, instrumentalists, moose, bird
on a nest, and assorted insects. Most of the graphics for the talk were line
art illustrating mathematical principles and examples, not models.

Good luck with your talk. What university are you giving the talk at? And who
are you ("DORIGAMI?)?

Robert





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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 16:15:38 -0400
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: For the creators

At 11:08 26/10/95 -0300, you wrote:
>
>       As long as I've been folding, I've always been amazed by the quality
>and the sameness that existed between the model and the origami. Thus I was
>wondering if there were any method to create an origami.

Some odd ideas for stimulating creativity.

I do hope this contribution is not too long I should hate to be burnt by the
dreaded origami
dragon's flame

I have been fascinated by the contributions about creativity, it has made my
costs of
joining Internet worthwhile. But I couldn't resist putting in my little
contribution.

The folding medium.

copper sheet
Many years ago Elgin-Jones showed members of the BOS his models made in very
thin
copper sheet. In particular he had a model called the temple of the sun
which was
simply the usual accordion type thing of the four flaps of a square. The
result was
exquisite and I believe he had a ready sale for them

Pottery folding.
Nakano ,also many years ago, brought to the UK pottery cranes of superb
delicacy.
They had been folded in a paper impregnated with clay and then baked in an
oven.

Tracing Paper.

Fujimoto started this idea of using the transparency of special papers to
give patterns
by transmitted light. This has been taken up, of course, by the OT's. But
what about
folding birds so that birdlike patterns are revealed on holding up to a
light? (Or any
other animal including human figures)

Memory materials.

I understand that there are plastic materials which hold the memory of a
shape and
reform on the application of, say heat. I have always thought how wonderful this
would be to see an Origami bird or flower arise from the flat sheet.

Doodling

I organised a little workshop on creativity in 1994 and was amazed to hear
how highly
regarded doodling was a means of creating new models. An interesting form of
doodling  are the crushing methods invented by Paul Jackson. Having crushed the
paper and opened up again one now seeks models or forms amongst the creases.
The only
problem is that the result is probably a one-off. While folding an exisiting
model
(usually many
times) one suddenly sees something new arising from the old. A case of
serendipity.

Breaking Constraints.

It is very easy to become set in a limited number of rules or constraints,
this I think
hinders creativity. By choosing new constraints one can often get a whole
new vision
of what might be possible.

Minimal Folding.

The constraint here is to achieve the essence of some natural form in the
minimum
number of folds. This has a startling effect on ones ideas of what is meant
by realism
and the use of the classical triangular type of folding. For example what is
the essence
visually of an elephant and how simply can this be captured. Robert Neales
work needs
careful study here. A  lot of minimal folding has no landmark points and so each
folding tends to be unique. Minimal folding can lead on to a study of
essence folding
where one seeks to capture in the simplest possible way the visual essence
that makes
the object what it is. Look at Neale's marvellous frogs whcih are more frog
like than
all the ones with the correct number of toes etc.

Pureland

I will not weary people by again going through the reasons for the
constraints of
Pureland. In its simples form they are :-
1. Only using a square
2. Only one fold to be manipulated at a time
3 Each fold to have landmarks.

It will be seen that Pureland is not minimal folding.

Curio

This really came about because of Paul Jackson's one fold ideas. In curio
folding
one or more crease do not reach the edge of their local boundary. This
necessarily
generates or induces curves by the creases. Hence curved induced origami,
curio. The
opportunities are immense as are the technical difficulties.

Articulated models

Praise be to Robert Neale and to Tomoko Fuse with her marvellous articulate
lizard in
which the legs head and tail can all move independently. Look in Tom Hull's
book for
Neales superb sliding pin wheel. Ray Bolt did a 3d one many years ago after a
challenge from me.

Aesthetics

At the moment Origami is dominated by creators who are very strongly  motivated
towards the logical, mathematical, puzzle type of folding. The other factor
which I
found in paper folders is the artistic. What about adopting the constraints
of seeking to
invent something beautiful whether it is abstract or not.  Look at the work
of that
Italian genius  Luiza Canova (I hope I got that right, also of Jean-Claude
Correia and
in the folding and models of Kasahara. Not to forget that wonder man Paulo
Barreto

I realise I have gone on far to long so I will only just mention self moving
models, new
multiforms, models which make sounds etc. Of course one can put many of these
things together imagine an OT which is 3d with induced curves.

I think there is enough scope yet for wonderful new models and ideas, I wish
I had the talents and
ability to find them.

John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 16:54:57 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: origami & geodesics

Robert,

Thanx for the dope of Mathematica. I have drooled over it several
times, and also a book about "Using Mathmatica" (which was languishing
in the "do-it-yourself" section of my local bookstore until I told them
it belonged in the computer section).

Unfortunately, Mathmatica would blow my software budject for the next
year, and I'd still have to learn to use it.

But I think I got the immediate problem solved, with some help from
3-4 folks on the list, and I think our approximation is within the
practical tolerance of the materials etc I'm working with, e.g. the
vertices aren't "points" (they gap slightly), etc. So 0.01 inch is
plenty close enough. (see my geodesic serendipity post)

You wouldn't like to run a snub dodecahedron thru for me, would you
(geodesify the pentagon faces), and check the answer we came up with?
(0.87:1)

Regards,
Valerie Vann





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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:23:09 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: For the creators

I just wanted to tell all of the contributers to the discussion on
creativity how much I am enjoying the discussion.  This and the
occasional discussion of new models and modulars are definitely
among my favorite contributions to the list.

                               Kudos!
                                  ... Mark

P.S. Is there a tendency for models discovered by accident to
     lack set points?  I recall folding a simple but nice
     elephant by accident only to discover that I could never
     reproduce the exact proportions and curvature that had
     made the original so satisfactory.

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 18:50:05 -0400
From: Winson Chan <winsonc@sfu.ca>
Subject: diagrams - copyrights

If I diagram a model that is not mine, what can I do with the diagram.

The diagrams states the designer of the model and that I diagramed them

Can I :
1) give them to friends
2) Can my friends make copies and give them to other people
3) Ask people on this list if they want a copy
--
Winson Chan
Electronic Engineering
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, Canada





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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 02:55:59 -0400
From: "Jeffrey M. Goff" <jgoff@esu6.esu6.k12.ne.us>
Subject: Origami sources in Japan

While I was in Japan recently, I took some time to track down Origami
sources. I was pretty much limited to Shinjuku, but I did make one side
trip. The best place that I found for books was the Kinokuniya Shinjuku.
Arts and crafts are on the third floor, and if you ask one of the clerks
for books on Origami, she can lead you directly there. They have almost
four shelves full of books, along with most of the back issues of Oru. If
you haven't gotten one of these books, I can highly recommend them. They
are beautiful even if you can't understand Japanese. They contain many
sources of inspiration.

Unfortunately I couldn't find any other bookstores that carried any books
beyond beginner levels, except for a book on masks at the Lumine 2.
Incidentally, the phrase "Origami no hon, doko des ka?" will help get you
pointed in the right direction. Look in any decent tourist guide for the
pronunciation key.

Paper was extremely hard to find, at least on my limited time. I got
lucky at the Sensoji temple in Asakusa. A common destination of tours,
there is a shop peddling washi down the left-hand main branch, on the
right-hand side of the lane. I nearly ended up missing my bus.

The only other place I managed to find anything was at the head office of
Oru Magazine. I didn't know it at the time. That was quite an adventure.

It's in an apartment complex a few blocks west of the Korakuen train
station. I thought it'd be in the building pictured on the left-hand side
of Oru #9 p. 16, but it's in the apartment building up the street and to
the left. Fourth floor, 5th door down. It's labeled in Arabic numerals.

If anyone would like more details, please feel free to e-mail me. I hope
I can answer some of your questions.

Incidentally, Kudos to Fascinating Folds! Just received their catalog,
and I'm having trouble deciding what to order, everything looks so neat!
It would be nice to have more of a single color, for those of us folding
modulars. Not to mention some larger sizes.

As a last note, the Dick Blick art stores in my area carry quite a
variety of papers. Last time I was at the Lincoln store, they carried
Yuzen and Ayumi washi, marbeled papers, a variety of handmade, and quite
a range of rice papers, usually in sheets at least 18" x 24". Handy for
some of those Robert Lang models from h___! I refer of course to the
infamous Butterfly. And I thought Pete Engel's model was nasty!

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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:55:15 -0400
From: HugoOlliph@aol.com
Subject: Christmas Cards

I am new both to origami and to this list, but I am delighted with them both.
I am interested in writing my greetings this year on a bit of paper, then
creating some sort of origami Christmas tree or reindeer or what have you. It
might be more clever to have only certain bits of text showing on the final
form or if there were some type of clever trick to unfolding it. The other
factor is that the form shouldn't be overly involved (for the sake of sending
off more than 2 Christmas greetings). Does anyone have any suggestions or is
it possible to point me in some direction to finding the "ideal yuletide
origami greeting"?

                                                               Tremendous
thanks,

                                                               Hugh Olliphant
                                                               Solana Beach,
California





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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 06:43:31 -0400
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: World record origami in Monday's Japan Times

(Monday, October 30, 1995)

Gunma residents fold largest-ever paper crane

MAEBASHI, Gunma Pref. (Kyodo) Some 120 residents of Gunma Prefecture made t=
he
world=92s largest folded paper crane on Saturday.

The residents gathered at a gymnasium in the prefectural capital of Maebash=
i,
and spent five hours creating a 16-metre-tall paper crane with a wingspan o=
f
35.7 metres. To make the crane, the used scores of sheets of rolled paper t=
hat
were pasted together to form a 33-sq.-metre piece of paper.

The organizers said the crane is bigger than the previous record holder, a
crane made in Toyota, Aichi Prefecture, four years ago, and that they will
report their new record to the Guinness Book.

The crane was hung by rope from the ceiling of the gymnasium for display, b=
ut
the organizers said they would break it up later in the day because the cra=
ne
takes up to much space.

They will cut the crane into small sheets of paper for distribution to loca=
l
kindergartens for drawing pictures, they said.

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Former Master's Student        |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:51:31 -0400
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards

Warning : Folding letters into origami shapes may frustrate fastidious people.

At least this has been my experience.  I often leave notes for people in
origami envellopes.  The envellopes seem very simple to me, but every once
in a while I find someone who is honestly puzzled about how to open (i.e.
unfold) the envellope!

                                   ... Mark
>
> I am new both to origami and to this list, but I am delighted with them both.
> I am interested in writing my greetings this year on a bit of paper, then
> creating some sort of origami Christmas tree or reindeer or what have you. It
> might be more clever to have only certain bits of text showing on the final
> form or if there were some type of clever trick to unfolding it. The other
> factor is that the form shouldn't be overly involved (for the sake of sending
> off more than 2 Christmas greetings). Does anyone have any suggestions or is
> it possible to point me in some direction to finding the "ideal yuletide
> origami greeting"?
>
>                                                                Tremendous
> thanks,
>
>                                                                Hugh Olliphant
>                                                                Solana Beach,
> California
>

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:38:10 -0400
From: DORIGAMI@aol.com
Subject: Re: origami & geodesics

Robert....I am Dorothy Kaplan.....#51 member in OUSA. I'm sure you remember
me.  I did the workshop at Rutgers University Math Dept.  There were supposed
to be 37 teachers and about 100 crowded into the room.  My thrust was to
prove that Origami was an excellent teaching tool and how it could be applied
as a manipulative in the math class.  I think I convinced them since many
said it was one of the best seminars they had attended.  I have been asked to
return again.  Thank you for your suggestions.





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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:32:20 -0400
From: Edward Crankshaw <ECRANKSHAW@nps.navy.mil>
Subject: http://dubhe.cc.nps.navy.mil/~library/

I was just reading a message from Jeff Goff regarding origami sources in
Japan. If anyone is on the west coast, there are Kinokuniya bookstores in
Los Angeles, San Jose and San Francisco, CA and Seattle, WA. They have
origami books in Japanese and in English. Some of the stores also carry a
limited supply of origami paper. In San Francisco, they also have a
stationery store which carries washi, etc.

FYI





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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:53:53 -0400
From: terryh@lamg.com (Terry Hall)
Subject: Re: World record origami in Monday's Japan Times

<Gunma residents fold largest-ever paper crane>

Was this a traditional crane, or a flapping crane ? :-)

Terry Hall





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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 03:03:25 -0400
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: World record origami in Monday's Japan Times

On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, Terry Hall wrote:

> <Gunma residents fold largest-ever paper crane>
>
> Was this a traditional crane, or a flapping crane ? :-)

Tongue firmly planted in cheek, Terry? 8) Anyway, in case anyone was really
wondering, it was a traditional crane. I've got the photo, but I don't
think I'll bother scanning it.

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Former Master's Student        |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 06:07:21 -0400
From: GLORIA@usthk.ust.hk
Subject: Re: World record origami in Monday's Japan Times

We did have a big crane hanging from the ceiling of the Atrium at the Hong Kong
University of Science and Technology last year.  I forgot what the occasion was
and I do not know what they did to the paper last year, but it was a crane big
     enough to be seen miles away....interesting!





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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:12:14 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: diagrams - copyrights

Winson,

I'm not a lawyer, but have explored this issue at some length.
One good set of guidelines is printed in the back of the OUSA
Convention Annual books. You might also browse through the
archive of this list; there have been some extensive discussions
of copyright issues here from times to time, most recently just a
few months ago.

It seems to be generally agreed that if you create original
diagrams of a model (i.e diagrams not based on other printed
or copyrighted diagrams), then **LEGALLY** you may do all of
the things you listed. **ETHICALLY** it is usually recommended
that you consult the creator of the model, especially if
teaching the model, or using the diagrams in a manner involving
money, since the creator's name is on the diagrams especially.
If the model has never been diagrammed (i.e. you reverse engineered
it, or were taught it by someone else), you may be on even surer
ground in doing as you please with the diagrams. Courtesy will have
to guide you.

I note that you are in Canada. Under USA law, you are unquestionably
the copyright owner of your diagrams, technically from the minute
they came into existence as drawings or artwork. But again, ethics
and courtesy are the best guides to action with respect to the
original creator of the model. I don't know what the situation would
be under Canadian law; that is, whether a formal procedure is
required to copyright your diagrams or drawings.

--valerie





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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:16:59 -0400
From: Ffolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: http://dubhe.cc.nps.navy.mil/~library/

In a message dated 95-11-01 21:38:20 EST, ECRANKSHAW@NPS.NAVY.MIL (Edward
Crankshaw) writes:

>I was just reading a message from Jeff Goff regarding origami sources in
>Japan. If anyone is on the west coast, there are Kinokuniya bookstores in
>Los Angeles, San Jose and San Francisco, CA and Seattle, WA. They have
>origami books in Japanese and in English.

Some of the stores also carry a
>limited supply of origami paper. In San Francisco, they also have a
>stationery store which carries washi, etc.

If you are looking for a larger collection of papers, Fascinating Folds has a
large collection available mail order.  If you would like more info, the
email is Ffolds@aol.com.
FYI
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:17:34 -0400
From: chiug@cognos.com (Grace Chiu)
Subject: Going West

Hi all!

I'm going to be vacationing in Vancouver, BC in 2 weeks.  I'll probably be
visiting Victoria, BC and Seattle, WA as well.  Can anybody tell me where
I can find Japanese bookstores (Kinokuniya in Seattle was mentioned)
and paper shops in these cities?

Thanks
---
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Cognos Inc.: Rubberneckers on the Information Super-Dirt Road  |   - Pinky
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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 12:08:33 -0400
From: gpowell@mv.us.adobe.com (Gary Powell)
Subject: Why join OUSA?

Hi,
  I'm pretty new to this list and was wondering why I should join OUSA?
(Besides the discount on supplies, which I don't appear to need right now.)
Is there a newsletter with new models? Does OUSA lobby congress for keeping
the $1 bill so that we won't have to spend large amounts of money to do
bill folds?

  -Gary-





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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:34:25 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Why join OUSA?

<<lobby Congress>>
You jest, I know, but seriously, there's no quicker way to run
afoul of the IRS than to try to be a non-profit educational
a big NO NO.

The mail order store is a good reason, if just because they carry
origami books in Japanese and other languages that are hard to
come by in lots of other areas, plus kinds of paper you may not
be able to get locally.

There is a quarterly newletter (more like a magazine) that does have
articles and diagrams, though the diagrams are not always "new" in
the sense of new models. It's primary purpose seems to be to cover
OUSA activities, news from regional affiliates, etc.  Announcements
& reviews of new books, etc. But well worth getting.

You are allowed to attend the annual Convention and other member-only
activities and receive notice of upcoming events. You can borrow books
from their library by mail or in person.

You help support origami in the USA, and help OUSA maintain their
library, collection of models, events like Origami By Children (a
traveling annual exhibit any child can enter), the Convention, etc.

You get to think of yourself as a cosmopolitan origami-ist.

You get a tax deduction.

:-)
--valerie





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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:29:43 -0400
From: Lisa.Hodsdon/School/hmco@Owl.nstn.ca
Subject: two sided paper

Does anyone know of a good source for paper that is the
same color on both sides? I need something about 6" square
(of couse, cutting down is always a possibility) in flower colors.

Thanks
Lisa Hodsdon





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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:37:22 -0400
From: CM317@aol.com
Subject: Re: Why join OUSA?

how much does it cost, or when, where, and how?

CMM





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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:20:42 -0400
From: Ffolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: two sided paper

In a message dated 95-11-02 17:35:08 EST,
Lisa.Hodsdon/School/hmco@Owl.nstn.ca writes:

>Does anyone know of a good source for paper that is the
>same color on both sides? I need something about 6" square
>(of couse, cutting down is always a possibility) in flower colors.

Yes - Fascinating Folds carries a paper called Ryomen Zome Duo Side
Monochrome, 6" square, and 48 sheets per pack.  Some of the colors are blue,
green, yellow, red, orange.  If you need further details, please email me at
Ffolds@aol.com.
Thanks-
Bren

>
>Thanks
>Lisa Hodsdon
>
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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:51:09 -0400
From: GLORIA@usthk.ust.hk
Subject: Re: http://dubhe.cc.nps.navy.mil/~library/

Does anybody know whether there are any origami stores in New Hampshire or
Boston.  I am going there soon and would like to look around if they have
something like that over there.

Thanks in advance.





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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:56:41 -0400
From: GLORIA@usthk.ust.hk
Subject: Re: Going West

What is the address for Kinokuniya in Seattle?

Thanks in advance.





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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:05:16 -0400
From: GLORIA@usthk.ust.hk
Subject: Re: Going West

Hello Grace, I notice that you work in Ottawa.  How is the job market there?
Do they have origami stores or similar shops in Ottawa and what is the
address?

Thanks.

Gloria





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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:09:12 -0400
From: Maumoy@aol.com
Subject: Delhi and Amsterdam

Abhidha Dixit of Agra, India sent me information on a source of origami books
in New Delhi:  Young Man Publications, Nai Sarak Market.  Unfortunately, I
didn't get the info before I left home so I didn't get there to see what was
in stock.  She mentioned that she owns about 20 books published in India.

I taught origami to a first grade class at the American Embassy School.  They
were great students - so enthusiastic!

While I was in Amsterdam, Alie Bolding hosted a mini meeting at her
apartment.  Five folders came from other parts of the Netherlands.  Jose
Krooshoop brought a copy of ORU magazine - she was profiled in it.

I found origami books in Amsterdam at department stores and t'Japonse
winkelje. In Leiden a craft store had books and Elsje van der Ploeg's crane
rubber stamps.   Tiny van der Plas has two more booklets in print on folding
the tea bag covers.  I had left a big bag of our boring tea bag covers, such
as Lipton's, for Frank to bring to Amsterdam.  He thought it was trash, not
folding material, and left it home.

There was an art exhibit thru Oct 15 sponsored by the Symbiose artists'
collective at the Orangerie of the Hortus Botanicus in Amsterdam.  Suspended
from the ceiling were fabric panels cut in the shape of origami swallows.

The Catalogue of the Van Gogh Museum's Collection of Japanese Prints on pg
154, #179 is a woman folding a crane by Utagawa Kunisada (Toyokuni III).  I
first learned of this ukiyoe in 1993 from Elsje van der Ploeg.  If anyone
else is interested in origami in ukiyoe, please reply direct
(Maumoy@aol.com).

Marcia Mau

Marcia





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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:54:02 -0400
From: JENEVOLD@aol.com
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI-L digest 139

> I'll probably be
>visiting Victoria, BC and Seattle, WA as well.  Can anybody tell me where
>I can find Japanese bookstores (Kinokuniya in Seattle was mentioned)
>and paper shops in these cities?

Dear Grace,

Kinokuniya in Seattle is on the top floor of Uwajimaya, a large grocery &
asian goods store in the International District south of downtown and just
across the street from the southernmost bus tunnel station.

I hope you enjoy your visit!





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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:24:40 -0400
From: marmonk@eskimo.com (Mark Morden)
Subject: Re: Going West

>Hi all!
>
>I'm going to be vacationing in Vancouver, BC in 2 weeks.  I'll probably be
>visiting Victoria, BC and Seattle, WA as well.  Can anybody tell me where
>I can find Japanese bookstores (Kinokuniya in Seattle was mentioned)
>and paper shops in these cities?
>
>Thanks
>---
>Grace Chiu, Enslavened Manager, Technology Support Services,   | "Narf..."
>Cognos Inc.: Rubberneckers on the Information Super-Dirt Road  |   - Pinky
>Ottawa, ON 1-800-365-3968, ext. 3218.                          |
>
>
>

Here are some spots in Seattle.  Sorry I don't know addresses but you can
find them from a phone book.

Kinokuniya is located on the second floor of Uwajimaya, which is a japanese
grocery store in the International District.  I don't know an address but if
you are in the ID is is easy to find.  Look for the blue tile roof.

Seattle Art Supply has a very good paper supply.  It is located downtown a
few blocks north of the convention center and next to the Greyhound station.

Another art store is Daniel Smith.  It is located on 1st Avnenue South,
south of Spokane Street.  There is a big sign on the left that you can't miss.

Borders Books on 4th between Pike and Pine has a decent selection of books.

The University Book Store near the UW also has a good selection.

In Pioneer Square there is a store called the Paper Cat.  It sells greeting
cards, stamps, etc.  They have a wall with sheets of wrapping paper that you
can buy individually.  (Across the street from The Paper Cat is Eliott Bay
Books.  One of the best book stores you will find, except that the origami
section is disappointingly weak.)

Those are the main stores I go to when looking for resources.

If you go to Victoria, do not bother looking for origami.  I was there
earlier this year and found, literally, next to nothing in the way of books.
There is one small art paper store in Chinatown.  There is a tiny street
called Fan Tan Alley or something close.  Off that street is a tiny court
yard that has a few shops.  One is a paper store.  Good papers to choose
from.  They also had some dragons folded by Joseph Wu's friend Ellen(?) from
Vancouver.

If you don't know already, as soon as you hit Victoria go find Roger's
Chocolates.  If is on the main street a few blocks from the Empress Hotel.
You will not find better chocolates anywhere.  To be able to taste the
truffles is worth the trip.  Whenever someone I know is going to be visiting
Victoria, I arrange for them to bring back some Roger's.  They are quite a
treat.

Someone else will have to help with Vancouver.  Hope you enjoy your trip to
the Emerald City.

Mark

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I belive in the rising sun;
not because I see it but by it I see all else.
                                           C.S. Lewis





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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:54:05 -0400
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.com
Subject: Re: What **is it** about Origami

fellow folders of paper,,,

> Just what **is it** about Origami that has kept you folding?  Do you ever
> imagine yourself folding the last fold?  What motivates you to fold what you
> fold next?  Do most people eventually end up creating their own models?  Is
> it a passing phase for some of you?  Is it an integral part of your vocation
> for others of you?  Can you define the magic and excitement that's caught
> you up like it has me?

my interest in origami has progressively increased over the past few years

as a writer and artist
(software engineer by day to support my family)

i've always been interested in paper
especially writing poems on all sorts of paper

as an artist
i've always drawn on various papers also

doing origami
             especially over the last year
has increased primarily due to convience of materials

we have a 2+ year old
(the one who saw that origami building)
and another on the way

it is easier to take out some origami paper anywhere anytime
than to go my the basement art area and get out the art supplies

i really enjoy the way one can take a square piece of paper
and make something aesthetically pleasing

haven't created any origami models
and probably don't envision myself doing so
-- i have enough trouble finding time to fold the few models i do fold nowadays

lately i've been into money folding
and have just started to try some unit origami
(i will try those darn propellor units
 with the suggestions of fellow origami-l members
 -- thank you -- and i'll let you know if i need more help
)

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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:33:36 -0400
From: MJLindner@aol.com
Subject: Paper/Book sources in DC/Baltimore area

Does anybody know of a good source for origami papers and/or books in the
Washington, DC or Baltimore area.  The only ones I know of are Ginza at
Dupont Circle, which used to be a great source of funky papers, but isn't at
this time, and Visual Systems, which is a generic kami source, period.
Thanks.

Michael Lindner
mjlindner@aol.com





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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:34:52 -0400
From: MJLindner@aol.com
Subject: Favorite Models

I thought it might be interesting to have folks pick their favorite 2 or 3
models, and their favorite book. Let's give it a whirl.

My favorite models are:

Tetrahedron and Octagon from "Origami for the Connoisseur", because they are
elegantly simple and easy to remember.
-and-
A chair made from a 4x5 rectangle  from "Secrets of Origami" by Harbin,
because it's so realistic.
-and-
The one piece lidded box in "Origami Omnibus", just because.

Best to everyone,
Michael Lindner
mjlindner@aol.com





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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:49:31 -0400
From: Winson Chan <winsonc@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: Going West

>
> Hi all!
>
> I'm going to be vacationing in Vancouver, BC in 2 weeks.  I'll probably be
> visiting Victoria, BC and Seattle, WA as well.  Can anybody tell me where
> I can find Japanese bookstores (Kinokuniya in Seattle was mentioned)
> and paper shops in these cities?
>
When your in Vancouver, there are two places you might want to visit:
Sophia - Books from the Far East located at Granville and Nelson (Downtown
Vancouver)
Forgot the of the other place, but its at Main and 21st, lots of paper,
but not too many books.

If your in Vancouver on Nov 25, Sat.  there's is an origami club meeting.
--
Winson Chan
Electronic Engineering
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, Canada





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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:56:39 -0400
From: chiug@cognos.com (Grace Chiu)
Subject: Paper around Boston

I lived in Boston for 2 years and the only 2 places I found worth getting paper
from are Tokai in the Porter Exchange on Massachusetts Avenue in Cambridge
near Porter Square, and at the Children's Museum in Boston which is next
to the Computer Museum and the Boston Tea Party museum.

Regards,

Grace
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:41:59 -0400
From: kkinney@med.unc.edu (Kevin Kinney)
Subject: Re: Favorite Models

OK, I'll play:

My Favorites:

        Montroll's horse, from "Origami Sculptures"  Simple to remember,
elegant, looks great in miniature.

        Rearing Dragon, Marc Kirschenbaum, "Mythical Beings"  Beats any of the
other dragons I've tried.  Great mouth.  So-so legs.

        Star of David Money Fold.  Fred Rohm.  "Making More with Money"  I
waited years to learn this, and it is elegantly simple, and fun to fold.
Highly memorizable.

        Lilian's Butterfly.  Not sure which OUSA book this is in, someone
showed it to me.  Great Surface area return in finished model, and highly
suggestive of the butterfly.  Also easy to remember.>

I'll go over quota and add my vote for the lidded box, as well.  Same
reason.  Some really fun folding steps
 > The one piece lidded box in "Origami Omnibus", just because. >

Favorite book:  Probably has to be the above mentioned "Origami
Sculptures" by Montroll.  I use it far more than any other book, not just
for the horse.

Kevin Kinney
