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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:45:11 -0300
From: ACPQUINN@myriad.middlebury.edu
Subject: Re: testellations / quilts

Kellie-
Chris' diagrams have never been published ... although I hope at some point
they will be.  Perhaps if someone on the list who knows Chris in person would
be willing to ask him if I may distribute the diagrams, I will be more than
willing to.  In the past, diagrams I have distributed have either been my own
or in books that are out of print and therefore very difficult to get. For all
I know, Chris is planning a book soon, and in that case I would not want to
distribute his diagrams.
Sorry to make this more complicated than it should be...
-Alasdair
acpquinn@myriad.middlebury.edu





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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 14:51:28 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cows on FAX

> I have gotten in the  habit of not telling people what I'm making. >
> Besides building the suspense, it also allows me to see what it
> looks like from someone elses eyes.
>
> Does anyone else do this?

I do, because it avoids the following exchange:

[Observer] "What are you making?"
[Folder on step 10 of a 50-step model] "A (something)"
[Observer] "Hmph! It doesn't look like a (something)."
[Folder impales observer on a double rabbit ear point]

Robert





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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:56:28 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Tools in Origami

> sei-hokkei should be "sei-houkei" (square)?
>
> Correct me if I am wrong!

You're probably right. I was transliterating what I heard, but I've never
seen it written.

Robert





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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:21:42 -0300
From: parkmaam@gol.com (M. Schleicher P. Saalbach)
Subject: Re: Tools in Origami

>> sei-hokkei should be "sei-houkei" (square)?
>>
>> Correct me if I am wrong!
>
>You're probably right. I was transliterating what I heard, but I've never
>seen it written.

According to my Japanese-English dictionary, 'square' in romaji is
"sei-hokei", where the 'o' has a circumflex, which means it's pronounced for
a little longer time than an 'o' without one.  But, mind you, I'm no
Japanese language expert.  I just live here.

Pamela





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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:31:17 -0300
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: dragon.jpg

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> PLEASE, do not send graphics via the list serve.  Since the systems
are
> not compatable it crashed my mail reader.  Thanks -- gj
>
 A uuencoded file is actually pure text.  Uuencode was developed to
convert non-text files to pure text so that they could be sent via mail
and various other file transmission services.  If your mail service
crashed, it was more likely due to the size of the file rather than
it's content.

I enjoyed getting the picture myself.  Maybe to prevent the problem you
had, we should make it a point to have uuencode break large files up
into smaller parts in the future.

Janet Hamilton





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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:23:24 -0300
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: Creating Origami?

On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Sheila Davis wrote:

>       I just got my copy of "The Paper" (interesting new title), and
>       in the back, under the classifieds for The Origami Source, they
>       list "Creating Origami" by Nolan.  I've not seen this book
>       around.  Does anyone have it?  Any reviews?  Is it published in
>       the US, and if so, by whom?

Sheila, we've just been talking about this book here. (Just to point that
out, not to imply that you really should've noticed...) Anyway, J.C.
Nolan is a member of this list, so he should be able to answer any
questions you have on it. To summarize, this book is an analysis of the
process of creating origami models. It is quite verbose, including a
design journal that details J.C.'s actual experiences. A must read for
those interested in origami design. You can see some of the models on my
home page (URL at the bottom of this message). The specific URL is

http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/gallery3.html

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 10:59:42 -0300
From: Ffolds@aol.com
Subject: Re: Creating Origami?

>
>       I just got my copy of "The Paper" (interesting new title), and
>       in the back, under the classifieds for The Origami Source, they
>       list "Creating Origami" by Nolan.  I've not seen this book
>       around.  Does anyone have it?  Any reviews?  Is it published in
>       the US, and if so, by whom?
>
>             Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
>             sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado

"Creating Origami" is published in the United States by Alexander, Blace &
Co.  It retails for $30.00, is soft bound with 350 pages and is an
exploration into the process of designing paper sculptures.  It is currently
available on a backorder basis from Fascinating Folds.   Hope this helps.
Bren Riesinger   Ffolds@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:25:25 -0300
From: JRMetzger@aol.com
Subject: Fuse Midget Triangle Box

To all -
I'm trying to make the "Midget" size triangle box in Fuse's Origami Boxes
(Page 57). It seems that the step 4 valley fold (using small size diagrams
(p. 60) as a reference here) is to be at 1/3 of the square. I can do that by
approximation (or measuring) - how is she using (and how does she get) the
other lines in the page 57 drawing? In the same vein, how do I replicate the
line "a" reference line in step 7(p. 60)? (and do I need to - is the
lower-left-hand corner good enough?). I'm really just curious at this point,
I can probably stumble through well enough as it is just guesstimating.
Thanks!
Yaacov





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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:36:01 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: testellations / quilts

A few comments on the subject of OTs:

They CAN be very time-consuming and previous experience with little
picky folds and sinks is helpful.

While there isn't much in the way of diagrams published there are some
related diagrams around. One of Yoshisawa's books available from OUSA
has photos of single unit folds from translucent paper which are
essentially the building blocks of OTs. (ISNBN4-14-031028-6 c2077; I've
lost track of my price list, don't know the English title translation;
its a reprint of a 1984 work). This book also has patterns of flowers
starting from pentagon and octagon paper using methods translatable to
hexagons, etc. with a "sink" in the middle; these folds can be translated
into OT units using a larger lightweight paper.

Another source is the Origami Architecture book listed in OUSAs catalog
(can someone help out here? not only have I lost track of the catalog,
I've misplaced the book AND my "big" computer with all the origami
stuff on it is still in intensive care...) This is a Japanese book,
not the one of same title seen in bookstores that is about cut paper
architecture. The Japanese book constructs temples and buildings with
stone walls etc. These are essentially sheets of 3D OTs in the form
of roof tiles, stones, and something that is a dead ringer for a
chocolate bar. If you play with the big stone block and roof tile OT's
especially the way openings are made for doorways, you can get some
really terrific 3D abstract OT's.

I didn't see a photo of the "quilt" in the OUSA "Paper", or was it the
object to the right in the photo of the OT that looks like a set of old
fashioned wooden faceted lemon squeezers? the right hand model that is
sort of fractalized into the center?

I had a brief email discussion with Tom Hull about origami quilting and
OT's awhile back. When I first heard the term "quilting" I though it
might be similar to some I did years and years ago, which was more like
a cross between applique and patchwork, using geometric origami units.
(I have heard of flat cloth models being used as decorative applique too).

But apparently Palmer's is more related to OT's. I had mentioned to
Tom my discovery when reverse engineering the OT's in Jackson that
some of the basic OT folds/processes were technically identical to
the method of making some pleated/smocked fancy pillows and clothing
material (velveteen & satin were common) according to patterns in
newspapers and "women's" magazines in the late '40s and '50s.

Also, when I played with "origami quilt blocks" years ago, I also did
a few from hexagonal pieces of very thin fine translucent cotton
organdy and lines (fine enough to be semi-transparent, especially when
starched). I made a snowflake design with blue cloth inside the "sinks"
of the white transparent material. Both cotton organdy and very fine
linen are highly "foldable". A folder with sufficient patience and a
big enough piece of either could probably produce a killer OT that
would be great hung in a window.

But currently I use drafting vellum,
which comes in large sizes, is semi-transparent but has a high degree
of whiteness, resists discoloring & tearing, folds well. The kind with
a fine pale blue grid makes neat snowflakes with an icey blue cast from
a distance... Glassine, a tissue like material available from library
suppliers (Gaylords)  in large sizes (archival/acid free too) also
works well.

--valerie





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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 11:18:33 -0300
From: Jack.Thomas.Weres@att.COM
Subject: Origami Quote & Origami Boxes

fellow folders,,,

with all this discussion "what is origami???"
especially use of tools, paper, etc.

i would like to share with you
my favorite origami quote
which i have in my both of my origami boxes

the quote is
        "the folding process is as important as the finished work"

i really like the quote because it captures
the Zen quality of folding paper
OR
  the should i say
  "Zen quality of folding paper
   -- when you really have time to sit and thoroughly enjoy folding paper"

  as opposed to folding a model under time constraints
  e.g. at work when someone wants a model
  and you have your "real work" to do

i'm sorry that i can't remember where that quote is from
-- knowing my luck its probably one of the authors on this list
   and i'll see email saying "hey, that's MY quote"

nevertheless
            it IS my favorite origami quote

also
    i mentioned above "my origami boxes"
    these are not the ones that you make out of paper
    but rather boxes that hold one's origami paper

    i have a permanent bigger box at home
    which is a nice wood box

    i also have a travel box
    which i carry in my briefcase
    -- i took an old metal case (that used to hold colored-pencils)
       and sprayed it with gray fleck-stone (spray paint that looks like stone)

    both hold up to 6 inch paper quite nicely

does anyone else have such boxes to carry their origami papers
around with them???  or is it just me???

---

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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 11:34:18 -0300
From: Penny <Penny@sector.demon.co.UK>
Subject: Re: Re: dragon.jpg

In your message dated Thursday 5, October 1995 you wrote :
> In a message dated 95-10-04 21:35:38 EDT, you write:
>
> >Fr
>
> When I got this picture, I only got half of it
>
If you want to send graphics please find out who wants them and send them by
fax, you keep crashing my computer as it can't load all the stuff you keep
sending. Please have some consiseration for others who have NOT asked for your
diagrams.
--

------------------------------------------
Penny Groom                :(
                           :)
penny@sector.demon.co.uk





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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:39:40 -0300
From: Imagiro@aol.com
Subject: Fabric Folding

I was wondering if anyone has been experimenting with fabric folding.
 Recently I decided to try folding a crane.  I am also interested in other
crafts so I devised a "wet folding" technique using tacky glue.  You may have
seen fabric bows done in the same manner.  When dry, the model is three
dimensional and stiff.  I had several problems along the way.  Since the
edges on the fabric weren't finished there was some fraying.  Creases were
difficult to make and maintain.  And my fingers kept sticking to the model as
it dried (cooking oil or spray may alleviate that problem in the future).  I
used clothes pins to keep the models shape until it completely dried.  I have
been thinking of trying to "dry fold" fabric using an iron to set creases and
some spray starch to stiffen it.  Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thanks,

Heidi Florenzen
Imagiro@aol.com





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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 11:37:47 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.COM>
Subject: Re: dragon.jpg & quotes

Jeannine,

I agree totally on this one, not only are these cutesy quotes
not amusing or even offensive, they just add bytes to the email,
which for me equals connect time and $$.

I assume the "butterfly bomb" units of yours mentioned in the
OUSA newsletter were the ones we discussed awhile back made from
square paper? or were these from business cards too? Did you
teach them at the convention?

I've "exploded" a few of the square unit ones for folks at
work ("Jeannine Mosely's Flower Bombs") together with butterfly bombs,
and people are fascinated. If you're careful you can get a butterfly
bomb of the same size paper cut in quarters inside one of yours, and
"blow it up" with another slap so the flowers and butterflies come
floating down together. And have you tried writing fortune cookie
messages on the inside of the modules? :-)

--valerie





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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:28:02 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: origami tanteidan newsletters

I have some old mail (last October!) that tells how to subscribe to
the Origami Tanteidan newsletter.  Can anyone verify that the address
and price quoted below are still valid?

  The origami tanteidan magazine comes out six times a year.  Each
magazine is very short and in Japanese but they include some very nice
complex models which are 'serialised' over several issues.

  It's 2000 yen for six issues.  Send it in cash (sounds dodgy I know but
they will send you the magazines) to:

  Origami Tanteidan,
  Office 112,
  Matuedaiichi Building,
  2F 5-36-7 Hakusan,
  Bunkyou-ku,
  Tokyo,
  Japan





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 05:42:08 -0300
From: Martin Gibbs <mrg1001@hermes.cam.ac.UK>
Subject: Re: origami tanteidan newsletters

  I wrote the original article with the address of the Tanteidan in.  I
presume it's still valid but I'm not sure - I'll try and check up for
you.  Would Alex Bateman know?

*
  **               ******
     **                   **        *
        **               **                *
         * *           **                 *
           * *       * *
            *  *   *  *
            *   * *  *
            *    *   *            * * * *
           *     *   *        *
          *      *   *      artin    *   ibbs





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 05:46:33 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: dragon.jpg & diagram files

First, I think some folks are being a bit hard on the sender of the dragon
diagram/graphic files. I did something like that when I was a newbee and
got roundly flamed for it. And the first message in the series did warn that
the other 2 were graphic files; I just checked the size, saw they were big
enough to probably cause a problem, even assuming they were in the correct
format (compuserve has problems with email files coming in off the Internet),
and deleted them.

Second,
I would prefer personally that people would NOT send graphics and similar
large files to the whole list. They can FTP to the archive and post them
there, or if FTP is a problem, perhaps email them to Maarten van Gelder
(the keeper of the archive) and he can get them put in the right place and
in the proper format.

If these files are in the archives, we can all get at them at our convenience,
and while I usually check my email from the list at work, I save big stuff
like graphics and fetching stuff from archives until I'm home and I can use
the high speed long distance network connection for cheaper.

--valerie
Valerie Vann
Compuserve: 75070,304
Internet:75070.304@compuserve.com
    OR: valerivann@aol.com





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 05:52:24 -0300
From: Penny <Penny@sector.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Graphics crashing my computer

can anyone tell me, if I see a huge file like the dragon one last week and I
know it will crash my computer of a way of getting out of it without losing all
the other stuff that is coming in that I CAN read.
Help please
Penny
ps.please don't send any more of those files.
--

------------------------------------------
Penny Groom                :(
                           :)
penny@sector.demon.co.uk





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 05:49:17 -0300
From: chall@scsn.net (Carol Hall)
Subject: Re: Fabric Folding

>I was wondering if anyone has been experimenting with fabric folding.
> Recently I decided to try folding a crane.  I am also interested in other
>crafts so I devised a "wet folding" technique using tacky glue.  You may have
>seen fabric bows done in the same manner.  When dry, the model is three
>dimensional and stiff.  I had several problems along the way.  Since the
>edges on the fabric weren't finished there was some fraying.  Creases were
>difficult to make and maintain.  And my fingers kept sticking to the model as
>it dried (cooking oil or spray may alleviate that problem in the future).  I
>used clothes pins to keep the models shape until it completely dried.  I have
>been thinking of trying to "dry fold" fabric using an iron to set creases and
>some spray starch to stiffen it.  Does anyone have any other suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Heidi Florenzen
>Imagiro@aol.com
>
>
I've not done a lot of fabric folding, but I've played with it over the past
ten years or so.  There are a couple of products you might want to try:
fabric and craft stores will carry a product called Fray-Check which
prevents raw edges from raveling.  I've found it best to use this at the end
on whatever edges are exposed on the final product since it does change the
qualities of the fabric slightly.  It also sometimes shows as a darkening
along the edge.

Also, there are several products which can be used to stiffen fabric.  All
are acrylic-based like tacky glue but are formulated to be used to stiffen
fabric.  I don't much like working with them, but they are worth a try.  I
find my best results are with a good iron, spray starch, and a self-locking
model.  It is sometimes possible to stich the exposed edges or stich
overlaps on the back of the model to help them stay together.  The caution
would be to try to plan the stitching, since a model stitched in some places
and not in others tends to look peculiar!

Tessellations seem to lend themselves to stitching although a soul must be
as good at accurate stitching as accurate folding for it to work properly.

According to Kenneway's book, fabric models have a long history.  I've often
wondered why there are so few at OUSA's exhibit.  Maybe there will be more
in the future!

Carol Hall





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 05:44:23 -0300
From: Sheila Davis <sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Origami Architectures

> Another source is the Origami Architecture book listed in OUSAs catalog
> (can someone help out here? not only have I lost track of the catalog,
> I've misplaced the book AND my "big" computer with all the origami
> stuff on it is still in intensive care...)

        I believe you're referring to "Origami Architectures" by Momotani
        (rats, can't read his given name), ISBN 4-416-39014-9.  It's
        a book in the "Origami Land" series.
Regards,

  Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
 sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 05:37:47 -0300
From: "M.J.van.Gelder" <M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Re: dragon.jpg

m> -- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
m>
m>
m> > PLEASE, do not send graphics via the list serve.  Since the systems
m> are
m> > not compatable it crashed my mail reader.  Thanks -- gj
m> >
m>  A uuencoded file is actually pure text.  Uuencode was developed to
m> convert non-text files to pure text so that they could be sent via mail
m> and various other file transmission services.  If your mail service
m> crashed, it was more likely due to the size of the file rather than
m> it's content.

Whether that file was uuencoded or not IT WAS GRAPHICS!!!
And as GRAPHICS files are large you should not send them to the list.
I don't put that kind of files in the archives either.

If somebody doesn't like a file like that (s)he may return it to the sender
(not the list!). If a lot of list members don't like it the original sender
will have his/her mailbox piled up with a lot of stuff! And will probably
never try that again!

Maarten van Gelder, Rekencentrum RuG, RijksUniversiteit Groningen, Holland





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:40:16 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Origami Arch./Tessellations

Sheila Davis has correctly identified the Origami Architecture book
by Momotami as the one I was refering to as relevant to a discussion
on origami tessellation patterns. (thanx Sheila).
--valerie





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:49:43 -0300
From: jfryer@lib.ursinus.edu
Subject: RE: Graphics crashing my computer

We can flame all we want, but it seems to be newbies who send those huge
files, and they aren't reading this!
                              jfryer@lib.ursinus.edu





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:57:52 -0300
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Re: origami tanteidan newsletters

On October 9,1995, Jeannine Mosely wrote:

> I have some old mail (last October!) that tells how to subscribe to
> the Origami Tanteidan newsletter.  Can anyone verify that the address
> and price quoted below are still valid?
>
><snip...snip..>
>
>   It's 2000 yen for six issues.  Send it in cash (sounds dodgy I know but
> they will send you the magazines) to:
>
>   Origami Tanteidan,
>   Office 112,
>   Matuedaiichi Building,
>   2F 5-36-7 Hakusan,
>   Bunkyou-ku,
>   Tokyo,
>   Japan
>
The address that I had is:

Origami Tanteidan
Matsuedaiichi Bldg.
5-36-7 Hakusan,
Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo, 112, Japan
Ph.#: (03) 5684-6040

I don't know if the subscription price has changed or not.  Try to call
that number.

Yusri





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:39:52 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Japanese Paper Dolls (Shimada)

I think someone a few months ago posted an enquiry about how to make a
Japanese paper doll, such as the one that appears on the cover of Eric
Kenneway's book. I saw a book in Birmingham on Saturday:

"Papercrafts of the World"

editor:  Tracy Marsh

publisher:  Cassell, year:  1995.

isbn:  0 304 34586 5

price: 17.99 pounds.

This book contains the directions for how to make this type of doll (just
a few pages, so it is quite expensive). There are a few pages on origami
too.

Regards,

Richard K.





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:16:32 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: origami tanteidan newsletters

A couple of people have offered to verify the Origami Tanteidan
address, but what I'm most worried about is that the price may have
gone up.  Has anyone sent them a subscription recently?  Does anyone
have a current subscription who can figure out what the price is?

Also, I have the following information about ORU from Tom Hull.  Can
anyone verify that its prices are current?

        -- jeannine mosely (j9@concentra.com)

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Ordering Information for Overseas:

1) Subscription of "ORU" : We accept `one copy per edition' subscription
of ORU 8th edition (being published in March `95). When subscribing,
please send us POSTAL ORDER IN JAPANESE YEN which covers both of
magazine price (2060 yen) and postage (postage of 1 copy to your area),
together with subscriber's name and address, by air mail. All
subscribers receive one copy of the 8th edition upon publication.

2) Back Numbers : When ordering back numbers of ORU, please give us
name, address, the number of copy by air mane, together with POSTAL
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order seperately on 4 copy basis.
     ex) Ordering 6 copies from Asia
           order 4 copies + 2 copies
           postage 2080 yen + 1120 yen
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* Cash, cheque, card, or other payment except Postal Order in Japanese
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 04:33:59 -0300
From: ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr (ciarlet mathieu)
Subject: Small Origami

        I was wondering if anyone here was interested in making small origamis.
     I have developped the habit of making mine with 2cm square paper. So if
     anyone
is interested in discussing techniques, papers or whatever I 'd be ready to
make "passionate emails" as well as private ones...

        Mathieu CIARLET : ciarlma6@etud.dauphine.fr





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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 05:50:02 -0300
From: "M.J.van.Gelder" <M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Re: dragon.jpg

m> m> -- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
m> m>
m> m>
m> m> > PLEASE, do not send graphics via the list serve.  Since the systems
m> m> are
m> m> > not compatable it crashed my mail reader.  Thanks -- gj
m> m> >
m> m>  A uuencoded file is actually pure text.  Uuencode was developed to
m> m> convert non-text files to pure text so that they could be sent via mail
m> m> and various other file transmission services.  If your mail service
m> m> crashed, it was more likely due to the size of the file rather than
m> m> it's content.
m>
m> Whether that file was uuencoded or not IT WAS GRAPHICS!!!
m> And as GRAPHICS files are large you should not send them to the list.
m> I don't put that kind of files in the archives either.

The last sentence should be:
m> I don't put that kind of MESSAGES in the archives either.

I will put graphics files in the archives as long as you upload them to the
archives. You may do that to ftp.rug.nl in directory origami/.incoming and
send me personally a mail telling what you have put there. Then I'll put them
in the right place. If I find files there that are not announced to me
personally I'll delete them without notice.
At the moment we have some problems with disk space, but I hope that will be
over in some weeks.

m> If somebody doesn't like a file like that (s)he may return it to the sender
m> (not the list!). If a lot of list members don't like it the original sender
m> will have his/her mailbox piled up with a lot of stuff! And will probably
m> never try that again!

Maarten van Gelder, Rekencentrum RuG, RijksUniversiteit Groningen, Holland





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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:41:10 -0300
From: Kathryn Burlingham <psu07050@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: Flower patterns

Does anybody know of a book with a lot of flower patterns? I would *think*
there'd be one out there, but I haven't seen one. Thanks!





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:48:45 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: RE: Graphics crashing my computer

J. Fryer writes:

   We can flame all we want, but it seems to be newbies who send those huge
   files, and they aren't reading this!

Well, there is something we might do about this.  Many other mailing
lists keep a FAQ, which is reissued to the list every two weeks or so.
This would include advice on how to

1. unsubscribe (a popular subject, thought I cannot understand why)
2. what to send and what NOT to send
3. how to avoid reading mail that might crash your machine

        -- jeannine mosely (j9@concentra.com)





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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:30:31 -0300
From: Pam Sirivedhin <pam@hel.ME.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: OUSA Lending Library

Can someone please kindly explain how the OUSA Lending Library works?
It was not explained in the "New Member Package".  Thank you.

pam





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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:31:23 -0300
From: SharynN@aol.com
Subject: wedding origami

This cracks me up -- I just finished my rehearsal dinner origami job.  (I got
paid $75, by the way.)

My suggestions, if you want to get ambitious....

Flowerpots with tulips in "their" colors (ask his fiancee!) or larger pots
for centerpieces, in which they can put real flowers

Metallic wedding bells (out of one of Harbin's books) to decorate gifts

I also like the heart-and-arrow out of THE FLAPPING BIRD and any of the
Valentine boxes.  I believe that Gay Merrill Gross has an engagement ring
fold, which you could put in a lovely little folded box.

Hope this helps.

Sharyn November
who is tired of folding, at least for this week





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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:41:46 -0300
From: Gretchen Klotz <gren@lclark.EDU>
Subject: Re: Flower patterns

On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, Kathryn Burlingham wrote:

> Does anybody know of a book with a lot of flower patterns? I would *think*
> there'd be one out there, but I haven't seen one. Thanks!

Welcome to the list, Kathryn!

To everyone else, Kathryn is my friend to whom I referred in my recent
query on this topic.  She's managed to get herself on this e-list before
she and I could get together and I could tell her what I'd already found
out.  So (hopefully) before everyone else jumps in, the list of
flower-related books in print appears below, in descending order of
preference according to all replies I received:

Takahama, _Origami Flowers_, in Japanese, intermediate to complex,
paperback, $12.00.

Gazzera, _Fiori in Origami_, in Italian, intermediate, paperback, $21.00.

Takahama, _Creative Life with Origami Book III_, in Japanese, not
exclusively flowers, simple to complex, paperback, $29.95.

Appel & Gray, _Origami Flowers and Flower Arrangements_, intermediate,
booklet, $5.00.

Yamaguchi, _Origami for Children: Volume 3, Flower Origami_, in Japanese,
simple to intermediate, paperback, $11.95.

Now, Kathryn, we just need to get you a membership to Origami USA!
(That's where the prices are from.)

- Gretchen





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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:51:15 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Japanese Paper Dolls (Shimada)

>> I saw a book in Birmingham on Saturday:
"Papercrafts of the World"
.Japanese Doll & a few pages on origami..
>>

What sort of paper crafts are covered in the
rest of the book? I might order one if the
rest of it is sufficiently interesting.

--valerie





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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 20:10:24 -0300
From: Pruess Family <AB10TP3412.cin@desnews.com>
Subject: DRAGON.JPG

     Lately, there has been a lot of discussion about this UUENCODED file,
DRAGON.JPG.  I, in classic Origami-L style was having problems with the list
when it was posted.  To who ever posted that, or someone who has it, would you
please send it (UUENCODED) to utahjohn@aol.com.  It would be much appreciated.
     And now for my $0.02:
     Since I am not in any absurd situations like paying for mail by the byte or
having my computer do weird stuff when I read large mail files, I would like to
see more of this (especially because it was a JPEG file, not any disgusting
PostScript [which is basically heck for those of us without a PostScript
printer], and when I signed on to this list, that is what I expected, not all
this talk about the technical aspects of origami [I'm not complaining, that has
turned out to be interesting] and stuff like that), but out of consideration for
those who are in the absurd situations, if anyone else would like to give out
diagrams over the 'Net, post a message saying they are available, and reply via
_private_ E-Mail.  And, please, more people, make diagrams available to us on
this list.

+++++++++     BYU
John Pruess
utahjohn@aol.com
ab10tp3412.cin@desnews.com
282 N. Seemore Dr.
Kaysville, UT 84037-9526
USA
++++++++++

P.S.  There is one thing that has failed me throughout this discussion about
DRAGON.JPG, and that is the large files crashing the computers stuff.  This list
can have some large files sometimes, really large in fact!  I remember some over
50,000 bytes!   Oh, well.





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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:49:43 -0300
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: Origami Architectures

On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Sheila Davis wrote:

>       I believe you're referring to "Origami Architectures" by Momotani
>       (rats, can't read his given name), ISBN 4-416-39014-9.  It's
>       a book in the "Origami Land" series.

That's the correct book. And Momotani's first name is Yoshihide.

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:14:03 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: dragon.jpg

> If somebody doesn't like a file like that (s)he may return it to the sender
> (not the list!). If a lot of list members don't like it the original sender
> will have his/her mailbox piled up with a lot of stuff! And will probably
> never try that again!

Not to prolong this issue, but if someone does something rude out of
ignorance (like sending a graphics file to the mailing list), responding with
something rude intentionally (like sending the file back to them) seems to be
lowering the overall standard of etiquette. A lower-key response, like a note
sent via private e-mail pointing out the error in one's ways, would be more
effective in the long run -- at least for a first-time offender.

Robert





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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:03:55 -0300
From: dzimm@nando.net (David Zimmerman)
Subject: Re: Graphics crashing my computer

>
.. much deletia regarding uuencoded (ASCII!) stuff.
>

Regardless of whether or not he should have posted it, there is no way
anything he posts should be able to crash your mail reader. You must
complain loudly and bitterly to the software ender, or switch to a
different mail reader.

I liked the getting the graphics posting and I would encourage such
behavior in the future, but my mail reader doesn't tip over and I don't
pay by the byte to read mail (another absurd situation, up with which I
would not put!).

--
David P Zimmerman             dzimm@nando.net
916 Riderwood Ct               919 557 7692
WillowSpring NC 27592           D-17293

A thing worth doing is worth the trouble of asking somebody else to do.





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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:32:47 -0300
From: jnoll@su19bb.ess.harris.com (John Noll)
Subject: Origami for a wedding

Dear fellow folders,

My brother will me getting married in November and I would like some
ideas for origamis that would be appropriate for the occasion.  I thought
about some origami boxes for the presents (first I have to pick out something).
I have done swans and such for the tops of the presents before but never
have I done th whole box out of origami.  I have considered wrapping the
presents inside of some sort of geometric ball (dodectahedrons anyone?).
I need something that makes a large box that looks good (most I have seen
look good as small boxes).  One that is fairly fancy would be nice.  Any
ideas?

< < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < <
 John Noll                       /~~\
 jnoll@su19bb.ess.harris.com  /\/    \o\_
 Palm Bay, Florida           /        \o\\





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:36:15 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: dragon.jpg & quotes

(Valerie Vann posted to the list a query directed at me.  I am
replying to the list because others may be interested.)

I haven't gotten a OUSA newsletter (yet) that mentions my "butterfly
bomb" units, so I'm not sure which ones they are referring to.  I do
have several "bombs" made from business cards.  I didn't teach any of
them at the convention, but I could do so next year if there is
interest.

The "flower bomb" that Valerie mentions turns out to have been
invented earlier by Michael Naughton.  I saw a model of it at his
house this summer.  This is the model made by dividing a square into
3x3 smaller equal squares and adding diagonal creases, pointing toward
the center, to the four corner squares.  Six of these are assembled
into a "rhombicuboctahedron".

Valerie's suggestion of hiding a regular butterfly bomb inside the
flower bomb is great!  I'll have to try it.

        -- jeannine mosely (j9@concentra.com)





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:13:03 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: dragon.jpg

Hi all,

Regarding the graphics files that were uploaded recently and elicited
comments such as the following:

??> PLEASE, do not send graphics via the list serve...
jh> I enjoyed getting the picture myself...
pg> If you want to send graphics please find out who wants them and send them
by fax...

Many of us on the list are bandwidth-limited and/or do not have the ability
to pre-screen e-mail, and so even moderate-sized text files are undesirable
to receive unexpectedly, whether encoded/compressed or not. If you have a
graphics file (or anything large) that you'd like to make available to the
list, it would be more considerate to post a public notice that you have the
file and then let people respond to you *privately* by e-mail (*privately* to
avoid clogging the list with "me too"s); then you can send it privately to
them, thus satisfying those who can easily handle the large file and not
ticking off those who can't. Alternatively, you could upload it to the ftp
site, make an announcement on origami-l of its presence and let people
download it themselves as they wish.

Robert J. Lang





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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:56:49 -0300
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: dragon.jpg

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> Whether that file was uuencoded or not IT WAS GRAPHICS!!!
> And as GRAPHICS files are large you should not send them to the list.
> I don't put that kind of files in the archives either.

I think we should come to an agreement on how best to handle large
files, whether they are graphics, origami diagrams, or something else.
As I pointed out before, Penny's machine is probably crashing due the
the file size rather than the format (uuencoded files are actually 33%
larger than the original file).  Would the preference be to send the
files to the FTP site, to someone who has a Web site, or to send a
message announcing the availability of a file and email it directly to
whoever asks for it?

The recent Faxing of cow diagrams was another possible solution but
must have been expensive for the sender.  Sending separate emails to
all requesters may also be expensive for those who pay per message
charges.

A teacher of mine once said that a problem encountered should lead to a
lesson learned and a solution devised!

If we come up with an acceptable procedure, it could be documented in
one of the FAQs (I tink there was one that talked about the mail list.

Janet Hamilton





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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:04:02 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: TreeMaker 3.0 is here!

Hi all,

Several times on this list I have alluded to a program I've been working on
that designs origami bases; I also demo'd a beta version at OUSA'95. Well,
it's now on the ftp site for the archives (at rugcis.rug.nl), in directory
"programs". The file called "treemak.er3" is a binhexed self-extracting
archive containing the TreeMaker 3.0 application, program documentation, and
examples.

What TreeMaker does is, you create a stick figure for which you'd like an
origami base, specifying the length of each segment of the figure. TreeMaker
then computes a crease pattern that folds a base that has the same number and
length flaps as your stick figure. Print out the crease pattern, cut out the
square, and bingo! Instant origami designs!

Well, okay, it's not quite instant (depends on the speed of your Mac), but it
is fun and interesting to try out the patterns you get (and they really do
work -- the 32-legged centipede and 8-point-buck deer I showed at OUSA'95
were designed with the beta version).

The program runs native on 68K and PPC Macintosh, but not on anything else
(and I have no plans to port). You'll need a Mac utility to un-binhex the
text archive (e.g., Compact Pro). The documentation is in MS Word 5.0 format.
The entire archive is a bit over 700K.

If you have a go at it, let me know what you think. I'm currently working on
the next version, which has *lots* of new algorithms and improvements to the
user interface, and I'll try to incorporate any additional suggestions I get.

Robert J. Lang





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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:07:11 -0300
From: parkmaam@gol.com (M. Schleicher P. Saalbach)
Subject: Re: Flower patterns

In addition to Gretchen's list in response to the query below, I just found
another book in Japan in Japanese called "Origami Flowers of Early Summer"
by Yoshihide Momotani -- a 1995 edition.  Price 1200 yen.
ISBN4-416-39507-8.  Flowers covered: Amaranth, Glaucidium, Rhododendron,
Bindweed, Rose, Small Anemone, Creeping Lady's Sorrel, White Clover, Peony,
Hydrangea, Lily, Iris, Magnolia, Pansy, Genista, Pawlonia, Orchid, Weigela.
I haven't listed of the very specific types of these flowers.

>On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, Kathryn Burlingham wrote:
>
>> Does anybody know of a book with a lot of flower patterns? I would *think*
>> there'd be one out there, but I haven't seen one. Thanks!

Pamela Saalbach
parkmaam@gol.com
Pamela Saalbach
parkmaam@gol.com





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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:05:53 -0300
From: parkmaam@gol.COM (M. Schleicher P. Saalbach)
Subject: Re: origami tanteidan newsletters

Jeannine:  Tom Hull's single and multiple copy prices of ORU are, in fact,
correct, according to my latest No. 10 Autumn issue.  However, it appears
that when ordering more than 1 copy of each, the postage rates have changed.
The prices are the same for single copies, however.

I haven't run across Origami Tanteidan yet in my travels, but when I do,
I'll post what I find out.

Pamela Saalbach
parkmaam@gol.com

>A couple of people have offered to verify the Origami Tanteidan
>address, but what I'm most worried about is that the price may have
>gone up.  Has anyone sent them a subscription recently?  Does anyone
>have a current subscription who can figure out what the price is?
>
>Also, I have the following information about ORU from Tom Hull.  Can
>anyone verify that its prices are current?
>
>       -- jeannine mosely (j9@concentra.com)
Pamela Saalbach
parkmaam@gol.com





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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:08:53 -0300
From: PenneyA@aol.COM
Subject: Re: OUSA Lending Library

I just got the new member package also and I believe it tells on the letter
that we have to send a self addresses stamped envelope to the address on the
letter and say attention lending library.
                                      Penney





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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:53:16 -0300
From: chiug@cognos.com (Grace Chiu)
Subject: Re: OUSA Lending Library

Penney wrote:
>I just got the new member package also and I believe it tells on the letter
>that we have to send a self addresses stamped envelope to the address on the
>letter and say attention lending library.

This means that the lending library is not available to members outside the
USA, which is contrary to what I was told by OUSA people when I joined.  I
could throw on all the US postage stamps I have (excluding my Elvis stamps,
of course) on a SASE but who knows what the correct amount is given weight
and all?

On another note, I just got the Fall newsletter from OUSA that says the 1988
Annual is now selling for $10.  I just paid $20 (or was it $25) for it 2
weeks ago.  I'm NOT impressed!

---
Grace Chiu, Enslavened Manager, Technology Support Services,
Cognos Inc.: Rubberneckers on the Information Super-Dirt Road
Ottawa, ON 1-800-365-3968, ext. 3218.





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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:52:30 -0300
From: James_Sakoda@brown.edu (James Minoru Sakoda)
Subject: Re: Modern Origami

>I have an old book called Modern Origami by James Minoru Sakoda. There is a
>peacock with a pleated tail in it? could that be the one your looking for?
>                                                  Penney
Modern Origami is out of print, but it may be available through local
libraries in the USA.  The peacock is folded from a kite form (sides to the
diagonal line), which is narrowed by accordion pleating.  This produces
five corners, which are narrowed by petal folding between the corners
twice, and the long point of the kite form is narrowed down.  The peacock
can also be found in my Origami Flower Arrangement, which is also out of
print.  Jim Sakoda





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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:36:22 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Japanese Paper Dolls (Shimada)

I think there was material about cutting and paper making. I have to go
into Birmingham again on Saturday, so I'll look again, and list the
contents. It's an attractive book, beautiful photographs and drawings,
but the origami content is low, so I have not (yet) convinced myself that
I should buy a copy. At the moment the UK price converts to about 28.00
dollars. Past experience suggests that if there is a US publisher then
the US price will be lower than this.

Richard K.





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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 00:37:42 -0300
From: hull@hypatia.math.uri.edu
Subject: Re: OUSA lending library

Hi everybody!

        Grace is correct, OUSA does not offer the services of its
lending library to members who live outside the US.  The main
reasons for this are (1) the amount of time foreign shippings
take would cause the book to be away from the library longer and
(2) because banks charge money to cash foreign checks it actually
would cost OUSA money to cash the small checks from non-USA
members wanting to loan a book.  Sorry.

        As for the $10 sale on the 1988 Annual Collection, yeah.
Whenever we have a sale there are always "victims".  Don't ask
me how many times I've bought computer hardware, only to find
a sale on it the following week...

------------ Tom "melts in your mouth, but not in your hands" Hull





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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 01:16:24 -0300
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: Flower patterns

On Thu, 12 Oct 1995, M. Schleicher P. Saalbach wrote:

> In addition to Gretchen's list in response to the query below, I just found
> another book in Japan in Japanese called "Origami Flowers of Early Summer"
> by Yoshihide Momotani -- a 1995 edition.  Price 1200 yen.
> ISBN4-416-39507-8.  Flowers covered: Amaranth, Glaucidium, Rhododendron,
> Bindweed, Rose, Small Anemone, Creeping Lady's Sorrel, White Clover, Peony,
> Hydrangea, Lily, Iris, Magnolia, Pansy, Genista, Pawlonia, Orchid, Weigela.
> I haven't listed of the very specific types of these flowers.

Momotani has a whole series of new flower books. There are at least four
books in the seasons collection (of which the "Origami Flowers of Early
Summer" is a part), as well as books on various locations (I have the
"Alpine Flowers" book).

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 05:15:22 -0300
From: piu1868@cdc8g5.cdc.polimi.it
Subject: >>>>Dragon.jpg

Hi, All!
I am the original sender of the *huge* files Dragon.jpg. I have seen
and read (yes, even as a newbie I read all you post) the great amount
of answers I got for what I did.

Maybe - probably - I deserved it, but I assure you that it was done in
'bona fide' way. I really never thought that a file this big could cause
problems to anybody (I can read messages even bigger). I could have split
the file in four parts instead of two, or six or more, but i didn't want
to send so many messages. I thought it could be annoying.

I have been reading the list for a while, and I never so anything graphic,
that's true, but, what the Heck, it was an Origami picture. How could I
imagine it was 'rude' or OT?

Anyway, I made a mistake and I want to apologize to those who had problems
because of my 'infinite wisdom'. I am also willing to pay for this. If any
one of you should think I am not 'worthy' of this list, please let me know
and I shall signoff immediately.

I hope this will be the last message of the series Dragon.jpg. I really feel
unconfortable seeing all the messages about what I have done, thinking that
I am stealing time to all of those who do not care about uudecode and jpeg
and graphics, but want to hear about origami.

If anybody should want to talk this over, e-mail me, and we'll discuss about
whatever you want, without overloading the list.

Alessandro Pitera' - piu1868@cdc8g5.cdc.polimi.it





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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 14:58:01 -0300
From: ENP <NPOTTLE@cbe.ab.ca>
Subject: OUSA membership

Hi, It's my birthday on Sunday, and I kept promising myself I would finally
subscribe to OUSA so I can get my hands on other origami than what I can
find in the local bookstores and my own small collection. I know there
are people out there who can let me know how I can give myself this great
present. (Of course, I'll accept the subscription as a birthday present, too.

Thanks
Nigel Pottle
npottle@cbe.ab.ca





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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 14:53:02 -0300
From: William Anstine <cptcobel@yrkpa.kias.com>
Subject: Independent study suggestions

I'm thinking about doing an Independent Study related to Origami for my
last 3 Humanities Credits in College.  I was hoping someone could help me
to recommend a structure or a rough-outline of what I could do as a
project.  I'd like to submit a decent proposal for it, and I realize that
the admin and the dean probably have the "non-paperfolder" ideas that
everything you fold is some sort of bird, and that moving beyond the
standard paper medium entails creating a Pterodactyl out of a pizza box.

Thanks!

Cpt





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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:16:34 -0300
From: Kathryn Burlingham <psu07050@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: Re: OUSA lending library

On Fri, 13 Oct 1995 hull@hypatia.math.uri.edu wrote:
>
>       As for the $10 sale on the 1988 Annual Collection, yeah.
> Whenever we have a sale there are always "victims".  Don't ask
> me how many times I've bought computer hardware, only to find
> a sale on it the following week...

Lots of retailers offer the sale price to customers who've purchased
items that have subsequently gone on sale. They usually give a time period,
like 30 days. (ie if you purchased it within 30 days before the sale you
can take in your receipt and get a refund for the difference between what
you paid and the sale price.)

This is a good strategy for maintaining customer goodwill...and
considering Grace just found out she can't use the lending library when
she thought she would be able to she could probably use a boost to her
goodwill about now. Think about it.





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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:29:31 -0300
From: Sheila Davis <sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Flower patterns

>
> Momotani has a whole series of new flower books. There are at least four
> books in the seasons collection (of which the "Origami Flowers of Early
> Summer" is a part), as well as books on various locations (I have the
> "Alpine Flowers" book).
>
        Do you, by chance, have the ISBN number for this or any of the
        other flower books?

Regards,

  Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
 sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado





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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:14:21 -0300
From: John Smith <jon.pure@paston.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Independent study suggestions

At 14:53 13/10/95 -0300, you wrote:
>
>I'm thinking about doing an Independent Study related to Origami for my
>last 3 Humanities Credits in College.  I was hoping someone could help me
>to recommend a structure or a rough-outline of what I could do as a
>project.
>

Why not consider the uses of Origami for the handicapped. Very little
serious research has been done into the difficulties that arise or the ways
in which Origami could be adapted to help. Essential text is the proceedings
of COET91 and the proceedings of COET95, both can be got from OUSA. I would
be delighted if you thought the ideas I put forward in my paper to COET95
are worthy of your attention, for example the study of the whole interactive
process of teaching the handicapped. the measurement of difficulty, the
analysis and improvment in the teaching and folding sequences and the
selection of fault tolerant models.

 Anyway best wishes for your project.
John Smith
Norwich
England
e-mail  jon.pure@paston.co.uk





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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 18:17:02 -0300
From: Melissa Dershewitz <mdershew@reed.EDU>
Subject: origami-l changed my life!

Hello All --

My name is Melissa Dershewitz, and I've been lurking on this list for
longer than I'd like to admit.  Finally, finally, I have decided to make
my presence known, and to share with you all the story of how origami-l
changed my life:

Through this list I met Gretchen Klotz, whom I wrote to after noticing
that she was a fellow Oregonian.  Turns out that our lives are linked in
strange ways - we live within 4 miles of each other, I used to date her
husband's younger brother ... that sort of thing.  Gretchen introduced me
to her father, a mathematician, since I have a degree in math - and he has
just hired me to work on a project he's running.  So I will be moving from
Portland to Philadelphia soon for this great new job, and all because of
origami-l!

I have a request for members of this list from the Philadelphia area -
could you send me a private response detailing the existence of local
origami groups and resources?  I know very few people in Philadelphia,
and it would be great to get involved with a folding group.

Thanks in advance,

Melissa
