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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 10:54:51 -0300
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Folding by words (repost of bookmark)

>
> ____MESSAGE HEADER INFORMATION DO NOT WRITE ABOVE THIS LINE______
>    N I am wondering If I can get those e "word" diagrams, too.  also... if
>    NI could get instructions on how to fold a swan candy dish...
>    N... so it would be great for you to send those my way...please.
>
>    Please post them to the group. I'd love to see them too!
>
> .                                                          Kellie
>

Hello Friends,

Here is a summary of the recent bookmark instructions sent to the list.
I am a bit embarrassed to repost these instructions to the list so soon
after the last posting, but have been prompted by the request for "word"
diagrams.  For those of you who still remember the last posting, you
know where the delete command is!  For those who want to flame me, my
personal e-mail address can be found in my trailer.

================= From Nick Robinson ==========================

>   Although I've never seen any traditional bookmark-shaped folds

Surely you jest? There are lots of them. Here's two of mine (I have lots). They
appeal to me because of their simple function - you basically need a pocket & a
sequence. The Jumping Jack of mine that was in one of Gay Gross' wonderful books
started life as a bookmark! If you want more, let me know! They are so simple
that loads of people will probably have created them already, but who cares?

                    oOo BOOKMARK by Nick Robinson oOo

1) Start with a square, fold in half both ways & open out.
2) Fold all four corners to the middle, open two adjacent ones out.
3) Turn the paper so it resembles a house. Fold one wall to the other.
4) You have half a house with a crease marking the bottom of the roof.
   Fold the roof down using that crease, leaving a square/two triangles.
5) Using the creases made in step 2, tuck the thin triangle inside the
   thick one. It should go all the way inside.

Finished! Use the same pocket to slide onto the page of your book.

                *** Bookmark #2 ***

Start with a rectangle, A4 is ideal.

1) Fold a short edge to meet a long edge.
2) Fold the sharp corner back down the folded edge, folding the triangular
section in half.
3) Fold both original corners to meet the lower edge of the triangular flap.
4) Fold the triangle over on its lower edge, crease firmly & unfold.
5) Now fold the flap with the two small triangles into the UPPER pocket of
the large triangular flap - it should tuck inside completely.

Finished!!!!??

================== From Bill Hall ====================================

>Does anyone have any suggestions for folds which would be suitable for use
>as a bookmark?

Somewhere I have the instructions for making an origami bookmark that is
basically a triangle that has a pocket. It slips over the corner of the
page. I can't remember how it was made exactly, but I just experimented, and
came up with a way to do it. It's so simple, I can (perhaps) describe it in
words. Fold a preliminary fold (I think that's what it's called - the fold
you fold _before_ a bird base. Fold paper on both diagonals and then in half
the other way, and then make it into a diamond with all four corners of the
paper at one end and the center of the paper at the other end. If it comes
out into a triangle, flip it inside-out). Hold with the open end down. Fold
the upper layer of paper in half so the corner meets the top, which was the
center of the original paper. Turn over and repeat. Fold the top layer in
half from left to right. Flip over the paper left-to-rignt and repeat. Now
you have two more corners. Underneath you have two pockets. Fold both of the
remaining corners into one of the pockets. Now you have a triangle that will
fit over the corner of a page.

Well, I'm glad it's not me trying to make it from _those_ instructions. At
least I tried!

================= Also from Bill Hall =============================

>Bill -
>
>(and others interested)
>
>The bookmark that you are thinking of is from "The Flapping Bird" - I don't
>know if it a Randlett model (the book is).
>
>Dee

You're right, page 86 in "The Flapping Bird." The model is by Jessie Seto.
It's much simpler than mine :-)    Let me try to describe it.

Fold three corners of a piece of paper to the center. This would form a
diamond shape except for the unfolded corner. Fold the diamond in half along
a line from one of its points to where the opposite point would be except
for the unfolded corner. This will form a triangle with the unfolded corner
sticking out of one of the shorter sides. Fold the triangle in half along a
line from the center of the long side to the opposite point. You now have a
smaller triangle that is the size of the unfolded corner. It has a pocket in
it. Fold the unfolded corner into the pocket.

Let me know if anyone can actually make this thing from my poor description.

===================  From Yours Truely ============================

I read the discussion about triangular corner-of-the-page bookmarks with
interest.  These things are awfully handy!  They are also not difficult,
which makes them good for beginners.

I noticed that each of the models described is pretty much identical on
both sides.  That might sometimes it difficult to remember which side of
the page you were reading when you fell asleep :-)  Some time ago, I
started folding a corner bookmark which is different on the two sides.
Here's my attempt at a description [*] :

1) Begin with a square, white side up.
2) Fold two opposing corners to the center.
3) You now have a sort of squeezed hexagon with 2 long sides and
   4 short sides.
4) Fold the figure in half so that the 2 long sides come together and
   the two flaps from step (2) are on the inside.
5) This gives you a trapazoid.  Please orient it with the shorter of
   the 2 parallel sides down.
6) Fold in half to bring the two 45 degree corners together.  Crease
   and unfold.
7) The trapzoid now has a vertical crease down the center.
8) Fold each 45 degree corner down, making the creases between the center
   of the long side of the trapazoid and the (90+45=)135 degree corners.
9) What you now have is a square with a vertical slit between corners.
10) Turn over.
11) You should now have a 45 degree triangular pocket just waiting to
    receive the 2 flaps dangling below it.
12) Tuck in the flaps completely and crease nicely.
13) You now have a completed corner bookmark with one smooth face and
    a face with a sort of slit.
14) You must decide which face you prefer to mark your page with.
    My wife prefers the smooth face.  I like the other one.

That's all for now.

                             ... Mark

---------------
[*] Grandpa used to play a game with us kids where he'd ask us to describe
    something using only words, without pictures or hands.  This is especially
    tricky when it comes to origami!

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*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 12:41:18 -0300
From: CM2018@aol.com
Subject: Word Diagrams ; File Transfering

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
Word Diagrams:

I know that this is just an Origami mailing list, more or less about Origami.
 But, I think it would still be nice to Put on some diagrams that don't take
that much explaining for someone to put on.  I'm sure that if we did that a
lot of people would like it.  I would be willing to try to put something on
that doesn't take that much for everybody to see, and I am sure that many
others wouldn't mind either.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
File Transfering:

AOL has a service where you can send files attavhed to your e-mail to other
people on AOL.  But the problem is that you cannot send them to internet
addresses.  If we were allowed I would be able to send some diagrams to other
people.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

thanx for listening to me,

Chris Miller





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 13:34:29 -0300
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Word Diagrams ; File Transfering

I am confused by this message.  I sense that an interesting proposal is
being made but am confused as to what it is.  Is it :
  *) anonymous ftp source for word diagrams?
  *) diagrams in trailers?
  *) ____________________ [please fill in the blank]

                                ... Mark
>
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> Word Diagrams:
>
> I know that this is just an Origami mailing list, more or less about Origami.
>  But, I think it would still be nice to Put on some diagrams that don't take
> that much explaining for someone to put on.  I'm sure that if we did that a
> lot of people would like it.  I would be willing to try to put something on
> that doesn't take that much for everybody to see, and I am sure that many
> others wouldn't mind either.
>
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> File Transfering:
>
> AOL has a service where you can send files attavhed to your e-mail to other
> people on AOL.  But the problem is that you cannot send them to internet
> addresses.  If we were allowed I would be able to send some diagrams to other
> people.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> thanx for listening to me,
>
> Chris Miller
>

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*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 13:42:45 -0300
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: 6 pointed star

On Sun, 6 Aug 1995 "BOB T. LYNCH"  <blynch@du.edu> said:

>
>Someone mentioned a 6 pointed star and it reminded me - in the last issue
of
>the OUSA newsletter, there was a picture of a Star Of David folded from a

>dollar bill that was said to be one of Michael Shall's favorite models.
Does
>anyone know where this might be diagrammed? I have a person in my regional

>group that is very interested in getting diagrams.

The original instructions for this masterpiece (to my knowledge), can be
found in one of the Origamian issues; the problem, of course, is being able
to find any of the Origamians. There were no diagrams, only well chosen
words by Alice Gray.

Tony Cheng, years later, diagrammed the model for the 1989 Annual
Collection. The diagrams have been refurbished for Origami USA's latest
book, *Making More With Money.* Both books should be available through the
Origami Source, the supplies center of OrigamiUSA.

Incidently, the model shown in the recent newsletter was a model that I had
folded about ten years ago. It is the only model that I ever carry around
with me in my wallet.

Marc





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 15:00:43 -0300
From: Kellie Elizabeth Cass <KELLIECASS@delphi.com>
Subject: Word Diagrams ; File Transfering

Chris Miller said:
   N I know that this is just an Origami mailing list, more or less about
   NOrigami. But, I think it would still be nice to Put on some diagrams
   N File Transfering:
   N AOL has a service where you can send files attavhed to your e-mail to
   Nother people on AOL.  But the problem is that you cannot send them to
   Ninternet addresses.

Dear Chris:
   I know you can send files via internet with something called
Uuencode. Then the recipient uses Uuuncode to extract it in
readable form. (I learned this the hard way when someone sent me
a file I couldn't read and it turned out to be in uuencode,
which I'd never even heard of).
   I think every online service or BBS has Uuencode and Uuuncode
available to download. It is also on the disks of some PC novice
internet books. There are versions for different hardware and
software like one for Windows and one for Dos. I'm sure AOL has
a copy and with all the techies there there must be some way to
send files by internet.
   Since I don't know how to access the WWW (but I'm sure trying
to learn), I think your idea would be great. If not everyone is
interested maybe those who are interested could set up a list
amongst ourselves? That's just a thought since I can't be the
only one who would love it but don't want to impose on those who
wouldn't.
    How nice of you to think of this!

.                                                          Kellie

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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 15:01:43 -0300
From: Kellie Elizabeth Cass <KELLIECASS@delphi.com>
Subject: Re: Word Diagrams ; File Transfering

Mark E. Casida said:
   N I am confused by this message.  I sense that an interesting
   N proposal is being made but am confused as to what it is.

Dear Mark,
   Internet email and usenet groups are limited to straight
ascii text and a set number of lines.  Origami would be horribly
limited by just the standard typewriter keyboard and even the
simplest diagrams would therefore require umpteen lines just to
get a vague idea.
   But files containing excellent diagrams can be sent just like
email. I think that is what Chris is suggesting.
   You can send them via internet with something called uuencode
(which you use before sending it) and uuuncode (which the
recipient uses when he receives it). Both can be downloaded from
most services and bbss and are included on disks in internet
beginners' books. (That's about all I know about it and I only
learned that when someone sent me a uuencoded file and I
couldn't read it).
   I hope I helped!

.                                                          Kellie

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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 15:09:41 -0300
From: terryh@lamg.com (Terry Hall)
Subject: Re: 6 pointed star

Dee,

The  dollar bill Star of David was designed by Fred Rohm and the diagrams for
it were in the Annual Collection of the 1989 (then) "Friends of the Origami
Center of America" convention book on page 183. Note that Fred also had an
earlier version which was not as good as this one.

Terry Hall





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 15:31:17 -0300
From: wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu ("Iron Will" Dawes)
Subject: uuencode

  Hi, everyone! Just to avoid confusion, the command to convert an
ASCII uuencoded file to binary is uudecode, not uuuncode (on UNIX,
anyway). If diagrams are so encoded, please let me know; I'd love to
get my hands on some. Thanks!
                              -Will





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 15:59:39 -0300
From: wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu ("Iron Will" Dawes)
Subject: uuencode

  I sent this out previously, but the daemon here returned it. If it's
a duplicate, please forgive me.
  The command for converting a uuencoded ASCII file back to binary is
uudecode, not uuuncode (on UNIX, anyway). If any origami diagrams are
so encoded, please let me know; I'd love to get my hands on them.
Thanks!
                              -Will





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 16:12:32 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: n-sided bird bases

In your message dated Friday 4, August 1995 you wrote :
> > Hey, Joseph, didn't you have a 9-sided bird base for your Griffen? [sp?]

Well, I've folded a 49 sided bird-base - beat that!

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****
          www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/Origami/BOS/nickdata.html





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 16:13:12 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: is it art?

> if someone can explain Kenneway's discussion in "Complete Origami",
> is it art in the sense of "Art-with-a-capital-A"?

Art is what people pay for, art is what most of us do....

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****
          www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/Origami/BOS/nickdata.html





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 16:24:26 -0300
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Word Diagrams ; File Transfering

Kellie wrote :

>    I know you can send files via internet with something called
> Uuencode. Then the recipient uses Uuuncode to extract it in
> readable form. (I learned this the hard way when someone sent me
> a file I couldn't read and it turned out to be in uuencode,
> which I'd never even heard of).

As far as I know, uuencode is limited to Unix.  That's our present
working environment.  I've received via e-mail and printed postscript
(yes, I know that for some this is a dirty word) files.  Since they
are ASCII files, they transmit just fine.  However they can be very
long and some e-mail facilities have a limit on the number of lines
in a message (1000 lines?).  I believe encoding can still be helpful to
  1) shorten the files which are transmitted
  2) make sure that some of the less common ASCII characters
     aren't distorted during transmission.
However it should be noted that postscript isn't 100% standard and
that this can also cause problems in transmitting files between machines.
Fax machines are probably easiest!

                                   ... Mark

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|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 16:28:18 -0300
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: is it art?

"Art is a window washer."
              From a tee-shirt I saw somewhere once.
I presume that Arthur washes windows. :-)

                            ... Mark
>
> > if someone can explain Kenneway's discussion in "Complete Origami",
> > is it art in the sense of "Art-with-a-capital-A"?
>
> Art is what people pay for, art is what most of us do....
>
> Nick Robinson
>
>             ***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****
>           www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/Origami/BOS/nickdata.html
> --
>

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*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 16:38:57 -0300
From: AFAAndy@aol.com
Subject: Re: Word Diagrams ; File Transfering

UUEncoding and decoding can be done on any platform if you have the right
software.  I can even decode and encode files on my little ol' Apple II GS if
I feel like it.

PC Users can use Trumpet, Mac Users can use StuffIt Lite or Deluxe (StuffIt
Expander does a great job of decoding and is available free for Macs and
PC's), Apple II GS users can use GSINSCII.

You can send files from AOL to anonymous ftp sites if they are set up to
receive from anonymous accounts. Use the FTP function on the AOL Browser to
connect to the FTP site open the Incoming Directory and Put the file, it's
not too difficult.

Andy





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 16:53:52 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: spare the mod & spoil the child

> As opposed to the ones that just cripple the folder?

I have now contracted RSI thanks to your work - prepare for a law suit :)

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami is just for squares!" *****
          www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/Origami/BOS/nickdata.html





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 18:39:34 -0300
From: Kellie Elizabeth Cass <KELLIECASS@delphi.com>
Subject: Re: Word Diagrams ; File Transfering

AFAAndy@aol.com said:
   N UUEncoding and decoding can be done on any platform if
   N you have the right software. ... PC Users can use Trumpet,
   N Mac Users can use ...

Dear Andy
   I agree that uuencoding and decoding can be done on any
platform but I have successfully done this on my pc and don't
even know what trumpet is, I never heard of it.
   So just in case anyone reading this is worrying about where
to get it, it must either be (1) included in the files you get
when you download uuencode/uudecode from your bbs or online
service or internet book disk, or (2) already included with your
windows or other program. I'm not sure about this; all I know is
that I definitely didn't purchase or download it on its own so
it seems to have had to come with one of the above.
   At any rate I would love to see diagrams included and hope to
someday even have something to share. And if this is of interest
to others, those of us familiar with uuencode/uudecode will be
glad to walk anyone else through it. (Although far from an
expert, I'd be thrilled to be able to provide help after all the
phenomenal ideas and help I've gotten here)!

.                                                          Kellie

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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 18:47:08 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re:  File Transfering, Methods

As a user of several different on-line services and types of systems, I thought
perhaps I could shed some light on this discussion, esp. for the newcomers to
the list and the NET.

There are basically TWO types of files:

1. TEXT, aka "plain text", aka ASCII. Email on Unix systems is TEXT type. As are
files produced by a "plain text" or "programmer's editor", or the DOS editor,
etc. You can also usually specifiy that a word processing program save what
you've written as TEXT or plain ASCII. Text files have no fonts, special
formating, characters or codes other than those that can be produced on an old
fashioned typewriter. A notable exception are Postscript files (EPS, PS). These
are also plain TEXT files, even though they produce graphics when printed.
Postscript files tend to be large, however, so attaching them to email sometimes
causes a problem, even though they are TEXT files.

2. BINARY files. These contain information other than "plain ASCII text". The
following kinds of files are all BINARY files:
          Word Processing files/documents in the form they usually exist, with
fonts, etc.
         Programs. (games, utilities, etc.)
        Most kinds of graphics or picture files, eg. on PCs or MACs files with
the extentions GIF, PCX, BMP, JPG, etc. EXCEPT Postscript files (see above)
        Compressed or "zipped" files (ZIP), encrypted files, etc.
        Spreadsheet files, database files.

On the Internet, which functions similarly to Unix networks, email is TEXT and
files attached to email (like an enclosure) must be TEXT. There is also often a
size restriction, usually made by your local system. To get around the
restriction of TEXT only email file transfer, the UUCODE programs were
developed. UUCODEing converts (encrypts, encodes) BINARY files into TEXT.  Some
UUCODEing utilities (there are several flavors/versions around) also compress
the file so it is smaller. However, if you use one of these, it's best if the
person receiving the file has the same type of computer as the sender, and a
copy of the same UUCODE program.

Transfering files using online services such as Compuserve and AOL:

If BOTH PARTIES are members of the same service, BINARY files can be attached to
email by selecting the appropriate option when you send the email. There is no
need to use UUCODE between AOL members or Compuserve members. There is a SIZE
restriction on Compuserve of 2 megabytes, which usually isn't a problem if you
compress the file first.

If a member of AOL or Compuserve is sending a file attached to email to someone
who is NOT a member of the SAME SERVICE, the email goes via the Internet, and
all the restrictions of the Internet apply - BINARY files must be UUCODED to
convert them to TEXT.

FTP: On some online services, what you can do with BINARY files depends on the
services FTP program/server. AOL's is quite easy to use. On Compuserve, you can
use either the regular FTP under Internet services to get to the origami archive
site, for instance. Compuserves FTP makes it easy to navigate the directory
structure on the remote computer and retreive files. Or if you have the newer
Compuserve Internet Web browser (Spry Mosaic NetLauncher) you can use it
instead. Web browsers support FTP too; just substitue "ftp" for "htp" in the URL
address, eg., ftp://rugcis.rug.nl.

Finally, there has been mention from time to time here of 2 kinds of TEXT
diagrams that are sometimes emailed directly, ie included in the body of an
email message: Word descriptions of how to fold something (no graphics), and
ASCII DIAGRAMs, which are crude drawings of how to fold something, usually not
too complicated. These diagrams are written out line by line  using characters
spacing, as a proportionally spaced font will muddle them up.

--valerie
Compuserve: Valerie Vann 75070,304
Internet: 75070.304@compuserve.com
Internet: valerivann@aol.com





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 18:47:34 -0300
From: CM2018@aol.com
Subject: Re: Word Diagrams ; File Transfering

I am talking about more people doing word diagrams in their mail





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 22:10:46 -0300
From: Tim Rueger <rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com>
Subject: a review of Lang's "Origami Insects" - part 0/5

Hi, All,

Last week I finally completed all the models in Robert Lang's new book,
"Origami Insects and Their Kin".  My next few messages will contain some
of my thoughts on each of them.  They are mainly descriptions of the
final model, with a couple sentences on pitfalls I encountered in the
folding process.

This review is long (over 300 lines), since there are useful things to
say about each of the 20 models.  I've tried to make it useful to those
without a copy of the book, but inevitably this kind of report
occasionally has to say "you have to see this to understand it".

I've included 4- to 5-star difficulty ratings for each of the models,
since all of them would be simply rated "complex" in any other book.
I've also listed the number of steps for each model, and final model
sizes for 10-inch starting paper.

Comments, rebuttals, flames, etc., are most welcome.  I hope you find it
useful.  If I ever get digitized photos of the models, I'll coordinate
them with these reviews on my web page.

-Tim

--
Tim Rueger             Motorola CCRL IC Design Laboratory, IL02-2921
Fax  : (708) 538-4593  Internet: rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 22:16:08 -0300
From: Tim Rueger <rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com>
Subject: a review of Lang's "Origami Insects" - part 1/5

Robert J. Lang, "Origami Insects and Their Kin", Dover, New York, 1995.

Model-by-Model Review by Tim Rueger (rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com),
August 6, 1995.

------------------------------

Overall Impressions:

This book, in my opinion, considerably advances the state of the art in
published folds.  The diagrams are clear and precise; typographical
errors (inevitable in a book with 1879 diagrams) are easily worked
around.  The photos of his life-sized scale models of his Ant,
Treehopper, and others are impressive.

This book is not for the origami beginner; competency, if not fluency,
with folding complicated models is a must.  Folding these models has
been a terrifically frustrating, and rewarding, experience.  If you like
your origami models complex, this book is a required addition to your
library.

------------------------------

Reviewer's Background:

I started doing complex origami models about two years ago, when I
started picking up John Montroll's books.  I haven't created many
original models, but I immensely enjoy the challenge of complicated
folds created and diagrammed by others.  I really like "Origami Sea
Life" by John Montroll and Robert J. Lang for the sheer breadth (and
difficulty!) of the models, and Peter Engel's "Folding the Universe" for
its in-depth treatment of creativity (but I still haven't completed his
Butterfly).

------------------------------

Peter Engel, "Folding the Universe", Vintage, 1989.  Out of print.
Models referred to: Butterfly, Rattlesnake.

Peter Engel, "Origami from Angelfish to Zen", Dover, 1994.
Republication of "Folding the Universe".

Robert J. Lang and Stephen Weiss, "Origami Zoo", St. Martin's Press, New
York, 1990.  Model referred to: Butterfly.

Robert J. Lang, Praying Mantis diagrams, 1990.  Available via anonymous
FTP at info.service.rug.nl.  World-Wide Web Uniform Resource Locator
(URL): ftp://info.service.rug.nl/origami/models.  Postscript filenames:
mantis.ps1, mantis.ps2, mantis.ps3, mantis.ps4, mantis.ps5, mantis.ps6,
mantis.ps7.  Hostname and filenames valid as of 8/6/1995.

John Montroll and Robert J. Lang, "Origami Sea Life", Dover, New York,
1991.  Model referred to: Atlantic Sea Urchin.

John Montroll, "African Animals in Origami", Dover, New York, 1992.
Model referred to: Spotted Giraffe.

------------------------------

Copyright 1995, Timothy T. Rueger.  This article may not be distributed
commercially.  This article is explicitly prohibited from being used in
any off-net compilation without due attribution and express written
consent of the author.





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 22:21:06 -0300
From: Tim Rueger <rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com>
Subject: a review of Lang's "Origami Insects" - part 2/5

Model: Treehopper
# of Steps: 49
Complexity: **** (Complex)
Final size of model: 7" (starting: 10")

A thorn-shaped insect.  The simplest model in the book, it consists of
long blunt points for a head and tail, and six short legs.  Very large
for its starting paper size.
------------------------------
Model: Spotted Ladybug
# of Steps: 72
Complexity: **** (Complex)
Final size: 2.75" (starting: 10")

A simple bug, with six legs, a small head, and a pleated tail.
Distinguished by color-changed spots on the back, which Mr. Lang freely
acknowledges a being inspired by John Montroll's creations; this
particular instance is similar to Montroll's Spotted Giraffe in "African
Animals in Origami".

There is a tough, small wraparound fold to color-change the head.  My
rendition of the model is probably the least realistic-looking in the
book, since it comes out pretty flat, unlike the "real thing".
Appropriate paper choice would make this model come out better (I used
kami paper).
------------------------------
Model: Orb Weaver
# of Steps: 68
Complexity: **** (Complex)
Final Size: 3.5" (starting: 10")

A good basic spider model.  The abdomen is nicely rounded, and the legs
are naturally proportioned.  The release folds which form the base for
the abdomen are difficult to perform without tearing the paper.  They
are virtually identical to those which form the base for the antennae of
the Praying Mantis (described below), but on an easier, larger scale.
------------------------------
Model: Tarantula
# of Steps: 70
Complexity: **** (Complex)
Final Size: 3.75" (starting: 10")

This model has a very similar appearance to the Orb Weaver, but has a
fifth pair of points at the head for "pedipalps", as they are described.
The body shaping uses closed sinks for rounding.
------------------------------
Model: Tick ("Hungry" and "Sated" variations)
# of Steps: 65 (Hungry), 64 (Sated)
Complexity: **** (Complex)
Final Size: 3.75" (Hungry), 5.5" (Sated) (starting: 10")

Lang's Tick model has eight short legs set toward the front of the body.
The Sated version looks delightfully bloated, in a disgusting sort of
way; the Hungry version is an un-inflated Sated Tick, essentially folded
in half.

------------------------------

Copyright 1995, Timothy T. Rueger.  This article may not be distributed
commercially.  This article is explicitly prohibited from being used in
any off-net compilation without due attribution and express written
consent of the author.





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 22:22:45 -0300
From: Tim Rueger <rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com>
Subject: a review of Lang's "Origami Insects" - part 3/5

Model: Ant
# of Steps: 87
Complexity: **** (Complex)
Final Size: 5.5" (starting: 10")

A surprisingly large model for its complexity, it also looks very
realistic, with fully rounded head, thorax, and abdomen regions.  The
folding of the central pair of legs is a bit convoluted, and there are
some close-quarters sinks required to shape the neck region.
------------------------------
Model: Butterfly
# of Steps: 87
Complexity: ***** (Very Complex)
Final Size: 4" wingspan (starting: 10")

An especially tough model.  It has less delicacy than, say, Michael
LaFosse's butterfly models, but it does have all six legs, fully formed
wings, and antennae.  I like it very much, but it is difficult to fold
neatly.

This butterfly is distinguished from other complex butterfly models I've
seen (Engel's in "Folding the Universe" and Lang's previous one in
"Origami Zoo") by having four separate wing regions, fully separated
from one another.

The folds which separate the wings from the rest of the model are
orthogonal "Elias-type" stretches, similar to those used in Lang's
previous Butterfly.  As with that model, I found it necessary to
precrease the appropriate regions very early in the folding sequence
instead of doing them immediately before they were needed.  Also, the
resulting stretched regions are not tucked up inside the wings as they
were with the previous Butterfly.

The folding of the legs and antennae is similar to the separation of the
points in Lang's Atlantic Sea Urchin (in Montroll and Lang's "Origami
Sea Life"), since all nine body points come from the center of the
paper.  (It is also interesting to note that the two antennae come from
asymmetrically placed points.)
------------------------------
Model: Scarab Beetle
# of Steps: 68
Complexity: **** (Complex)
Final Size: 3.5" (starting: 10")

This model has a nicely rounded body, and color-changed legs and
antennae.  There are a couple closed sinks, one of which is "optional,
because it is difficult" (!).
------------------------------
Model: Cicada
# of Steps: 95
Complexity: ***** (Very Complex)
Final size: 5" (starting: 10")

Another large, realistically-proportioned, good-looking model, but hard
to do well.  The thorax is nicely rounded, and model has very
large-sized eyes and wings.  The eyes and upper and lower jaws are
formed from the center of the paper, so there are several closed sinks
and similar maneuvers used to create these features.  The eyes can be
difficult to do neatly, since they are formed from small, flattened,
eight-sided pyramids.
------------------------------
Model: Grasshopper
# of Steps: 84
Complexity: ****
Final size: 3.5" (starting: 10")

This model is distinguished by very long and thin rear legs.  It is one
of the few in the book which starts with a standard Bird Base.  This is
a good model to start the book with, after the Treehopper; the only
really complicated folds are two closed sinks on the center pair of
legs.  The rear legs tend to spread apart horizontally if springy (e.g.,
kami weight) paper is used.

------------------------------

Copyright 1995, Timothy T. Rueger.  This article may not be distributed
commercially.  This article is explicitly prohibited from being used in
any off-net compilation without due attribution and express written
consent of the author.





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 22:27:37 -0300
From: Tim Rueger <rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com>
Subject: a review of Lang's "Origami Insects" - part 4/5

Model: Black Pine Sawyer
# of Steps: 93
Complexity: **** (Complex)
Final size: about 4.5" (starting: 10")

This beetle model has very long and thin antennae - they are roughly
equal in length to the rest of the model.  The body is relatively thin,
and the legs are placed well forward.  Another of my favorites.

I found a couple maneuvers difficult.  At step 41, two edges of one side
of a stretched Bird Base must be sunk simultaneously; I found it useful
the creases fell.  In step 54, the central crease of a point is to be
flattened and later re-formed after squashing the base of the point.
The description of the flattening as a "sink" had me a bit lost.  Also,
a close-quarters closed sink near the end (step 88) can be skipped if
absolute symmetry is not important to the folder.
------------------------------
Model: Dragonfly
# of Steps: 92
Complexity: **** 1/2 (Pretty Complex)
Final size: 3.75" (starting: 10")

A nicely formed model, with six short legs, four wings, a long, thin,
rounded abdomen, and large color-changed eyes.  Like the Black Pine
Sawyer, it has a lot of personality.

There are some small, complicated sinks buried deep inside the model to
maintain required symmetry during the early folding stages.  The legs
end up very small, and are difficult to thin out neatly.
------------------------------
Model: Hercules Beetle
# of Steps: 101
Complexity: **** (Complex)
Final size: 5" (starting: 10")

This beetle has a prominent upper jaw, a curved single point arching
forward from the head.  The lower jaw is nicely detailed, with a small
"tooth" and eyes.  The abdomen is well-rounded and holds it shape with
small closed sinks.  This model is structurally similar to the Praying
Mantis, with very similar folds used to form the legs and abdomen.
------------------------------
Model: Long-Necked Seed Bug
# of Steps: 100
Complexity: **** (Complex)
Final size: 4.75" (starting: 10")

This model has, as the name implies, a long, thin neck which terminates
in two thin antennae.  One wing overlaps the back asymmetrically.

There is a complicated sink at step 24 that, as with another complicated
sink in the Black Pine Sawyer, I found useful to build on a separate
piece of paper.  The closed sinks which narrow the body at the end of
the folding sequence can be tricky since there is little room to
maneuver at that point.  It is hard to get the neck to stay thin using
springy kami paper.
------------------------------
Model: Pill Bug
# of Steps: 97
Complexity: **** 1/2 (Pretty Complex)
Final Size: 3.5" (starting: 10")

This bug has seven pairs of legs poking out from under a small dome
composed of overlapping horizontal plates.  There are also two small
antennae and a pleated abdomen region.

There are several closed "unsinks" needed to separate points.  Creating
the horizontal plates requires maneuvers which don't have any loose
edges to get hold of.  The necessary rounding is difficult to achieve
with kami paper.

------------------------------

Copyright 1995, Timothy T. Rueger.  This article may not be distributed
commercially.  This article is explicitly prohibited from being used in
any off-net compilation without due attribution and express written
consent of the author.





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 22:29:20 -0300
From: Tim Rueger <rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com>
Subject: a review of Lang's "Origami Insects" - part 5/5

Model: Praying Mantis
# of Steps: 108
Complexity: **** 1/2 (Pretty Complex)
Final Size: 5" (starting: 10")

This model was previously published online in Postscript format by Mr.
Lang via the origami ftp archive at info.service.rug.nl.  It is
essentially reproduced in this book.

The model has long front legs and a nicely shaped abdomen, and is
surprisingly large for a given size of paper.  The antennae are produced
from a complicated set of release folds at the center of the paper which
are difficult to do neatly.
------------------------------
Model: Stag Beetle
# of Steps: 118
Complexity: **** (Complex)
Final Size: 3.75" (starting: 10")

This model has nicely detailed horns on the head region, with a thick,
rounded pair most prominent.  This model's legs are generated from
thinned Elias stretches, whereas most of the other models' legs have a
thinned Bird Base symmetries.
------------------------------
Model: Paper Wasp
# of Steps: 122
Complexity: ***** (Very Complex)
Final Size: 4.5" (starting: 10")

This is a very realistically formed wasp model, complete with eyes,
ribbed abdomen, and stinger.  In addition, the antennae and wings are
color changed.

There are a few difficult sinks early in the folding sequence which are
similar to those done in the Dragonfly.  The ridges in the abdomen are
done with difficult cylindrical crimps (somewhat similar to Engel's
Rattlesnake).  For these, it might be more appropriate to emulate the
proportions of the crimps in the accompanying photograph of the model
than to follow those shown in the folding directions; as diagrammed, it
is hard to get clean, rip-free folds all the way around the cylinder.
------------------------------
Model: Samurai Helmet Beetle
# of Steps: 140
Complexity: ***** (Very Complex)
Final Size: 4.5" (starting: 10")

This is my favorite model in the book, and in my opinion the most
difficult to fold.  The model has a complex point structure on the head,
with four short points at the end of one long one, two thin points at
the base of the head, and a curved "samurai helmet" structure atop the
head.  There is also nice detail of a diamond-shaped "mesocentrum"
region in the middle of the back, and a well-rounded abdomen.

There are several instances of close-quarters sink folds buried deep
within the model.  The helmet region is separated from the abdomen with
Elias-type stretches which must be completed on the inside without
unfolding the model.  This is another region where a study fold saved
the model from certain crumpling.  The cluster of four small points on
the head is folded using several crimps and sinks on a very small scale
(even with the 10" kami paper I used).
------------------------------
Model: Scorpion
# of Steps: 159
Complexity: **** 1/2 (Pretty Complex)
Final size: 3.5" (starting: 10")

The last model in the book, the Scorpion has eight legs, two small
antennae, two very large claws, and a curved, segmented tail with
stinger.

There are several unsinks which separate legs points, and two instances
of turning internal valley points into mountain points by creating
waterbomb bases in the middle of the paper.  It is essential to keep the
first one (in the very center of the paper) neat, since it determines a
good deal of symmetry later on, and the paper layers are configured such
that they are not easily adjusted.
------------------------------

Copyright 1995, Timothy T. Rueger.  This article may not be distributed
commercially.  This article is explicitly prohibited from being used in
any off-net compilation without due attribution and express written
consent of the author.





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Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 23:57:22 -0300
From: billhall@computek.net (Bill Hall)
Subject: Re: 6 pointed star

>>Someone mentioned a 6 pointed star and it reminded me - in the last issue
>of
>>the OUSA newsletter, there was a picture of a Star Of David folded from a

<<SNIP!>>

>Incidently, the model shown in the recent newsletter was a model that I had
>folded about ten years ago. It is the only model that I ever carry around
>with me in my wallet.

I carry one of these around in my wallet, too.

=================================================
 Clarinet -- Medieval instrument of torture. The only thing
worse than a clarinet is _two_ clarinets.  -- Ambrose Bierce

Bill Hall                    billhall@computek.net                     Dallas





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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 11:05:51 -0300
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (Shi-Yew Chen \(a.k.a. Sy\))
Subject: Diagram for Mother Love?

Hi, everyone,

Could someone point me the direction for "Mother Love" diagram? I saw the
photo on OUSA newsletter. Is that made from one piece or two pieces?

TIA.

---------------------------------------------------
Sy Chen <sychen@enh.nist.gov>
Origami Page - http://www.iia.org/~chens/pprfld.htm





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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 11:32:46 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: spare the mod & spoil the child

> > As opposed to the ones that just cripple the folder?
>
> I have now contracted RSI thanks to your work - prepare for a
> lawsuit :)

Ha! Too late! You must have overlooked the disclaimer that says, "By folding
these models the folder agrees to forswear all claims, indemnify and hold
harmless the author against any claims of injury, stress, hair loss, tendon
damage, pain, swelling, itching, chafing, excess sweating, embarrassing odor,
or any other physical discomfort or agitation arising from the folding of
these here models." By opening the book you implicitly accepted the terms of
the waiver -- it was written in 6-point type on the shrink-wrap of the book,
just like the software companies do! <g>

Robert





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Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1995 11:36:19 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.COM>
Subject: A strawberry

In January of '81 or '82, I don't remember which, I was teaching a
class in origami at M.I.T. during the "Independent Activities Period"
between the fall and spring terms.  My class was listed in the IAP
guide, along with my campus address.  I returned to my office from
lunch one day to find 4 struts of a dodecahedron and a strawberry on
my desk.  There was a note from the folder, someone visiting from New
York, who couldn't stay to attend my afternoon class, but had left me
these gifts.  I've lost the note and forgotten the name.  I've made
and taught the dodechedron often.  But the strawberry remains in a
small box in my desk drawer.

My husband just bought a Japanese dictionary and has been very
painfully attempting to translate some Origami Tanteidan newsletters
that I have.  He asked me, why is there a picture of man with his fist
in his mouth?  I laughed.  That's Michael Shall, I told him.  He
translated the line beneath the picture.  It said, Michael "the
strawberry man" Shall.

All these years I had imagined that the strawberry was folded from
specially printed origami paper with little white spots on a red
background and green corners.  But Saturday evening I was wondering
who had left it, and whether it could have been Michael himself, whom
I never met.  So in the forlorn hope that he might have signed his
name on the inside of the paper, I took it apart, and to my great
surprise found that it was made of two separate pieces of paper -- one
green and one red with white spots.

Could Michael have left this berry?  Or did you?

        -- jeannine mosely





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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 11:59:11 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Origami talk (Boston area)

If you live in the Boston area, the following seminar announcements
may be of interest to you. It's the same talk on two different days,
take your pick.  The first address is on the M.I.T. campus.  If you
want to come and need directions, write to me.

        -- jeannine mosely (j9@concentra.com)

               SEMINAR ANNOUNCEMENT!!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
DATE:     Thursday, August 10, 1995

TIME:     1:30 pm Refreshments
               1:45 pm Seminar

PLACE:   NE43-518
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                        Mike Eisenberg

                University of Colorado at Boulder

               HyperGami: Hard Copy Reconsidered

                       Abstract

This talk will describe recent work in the development of a program
named HyperGami.  HyperGami may be thought of as an "educational
CAD system for polyhedral modelling": briefly, users design
three-dimensional solids on the computer screen, after which the
system automatically "unfolds" the solids into two-dimensional folding
patterns. These folding patterns, or "nets", may then be decorated by
a variety of means, printed out, and folded into attractive
three-dimensional forms. HyperGami has been created as a "programmable
design environment", combining features of direct manipulation
interfaces and an interactive programming environment (based on
the Scheme language).

This talk will discuss some of the issues--in mathematics, interface
design, and education--that have arisen in the development of
HyperGami. A variety of recent constructions will also be presented.

Hosts: Professor Hal Abelson and Professor Gerald Sussman

------------------------------------------------------------

                                 A talk at
                   Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratories
                      201 Broadway, Cambridge  MA  02139

                              Friday 11 August
                               9:30-11:00 a.m.

                      HyperGami: Hard Copy Reconsidered
                               Mike Eisenberg
                       University of Colorado, Boulder

This talk will describe recent work in the development of a program
named HyperGami. HyperGami may be thought of as an "educational
CAD system for polyhedral modelling": briefly, users design
three-dimensional solids on the computer screen, after which the
system automatically "unfolds" the solids into two-dimensional folding
patterns. These folding patterns, or "nets", may then be decorated by
a variety of means, printed out, and folded into attractive
three-dimensional forms. HyperGami has been created as a "programmable
design environment", combining features of direct manipulation
interfaces and an interactive programming environment (based on
the Scheme language).

This talk will discuss some of the issues--in mathematics, interface
design, and education--that have arisen in the development of
HyperGami. A variety of recent constructions will also be presented.





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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 15:02:15 -0300
From: CM2018@aol.com
Subject: Problem with Ghostscript

I have found that with the Ghostscript program, when I load a .ps file... it
only shows the first page so you never get the whole diagram.  Is there a way
to get around this?





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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 15:21:08 -0300
From: jgoggins@SEUI.BU.EDU (Jgoggins)
Subject: RE: Hello

Leo,
> I am in the Boston area and have been looking for a group to share
info and learn from but I really haven't had the time to organize
anything via the PINE group. Please keep me informed about your
progress. My address is

jgoggins.seu.bu.edu

I am not on the Pine mailing list.

Thanks in advance,

J>





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Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1995 15:47:02 -0300
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@pipeline.COM>
Subject: Problem with Ghostscript

On Mon, 7 Aug 1995 CM2018@aol.com said:

>I have found that with the Ghostscript program, when I load a .ps file...
it
>only shows the first page so you never get the whole diagram.  Is there a
way
>to get around this?
>
All of the .ps files at the archives that I know of are only one page
(i.e., one file for each page). Check the archives for the remainder of the
pages.

Marc





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Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1995 15:47:19 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.UK>
Subject: Re: A strawberry

Jeannine

Is this the strawberry designed by Rae Cooker, which appears in Paul
Jackson's "Origami, a complete step-by-step guide". Paul says red/green
duo paper can be used, or red and green squares can be folded back to
back - he recommends folding them separately, then sloting one into
the other near the end.

Richard K.





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Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1995 17:07:56 -0300
From: CM2018@aol.COM
Subject: WEB PAGES

does anybody know of any "free" software to design your own web page? if so,
could you tell me what it is.





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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 20:08:18 -0300
From: Etdbjmb@aol.com
Subject: Re: Diagram for Mother Love?

Sorry I can't help you - today is my first day on this listserver.  What is
the OUSA newsletter and how can I get it?





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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 21:03:15 -0300
From: wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu ("Iron Will" Dawes)
Subject: Re: WEB PAGES

With profound wisdom, infinite insight and unparallelled studliness,
     CM2018@aol.com writes:
-->
-->does anybody know of any "free" software to design your own web page? if so,
-->could you tell me what it is.
-->
  I'm not quite sure what you mean by software. If you have the space
alloted to you by some site, then all you need to you is create an
index in html (hypertext markup language) using a standard editor.. If
you have a browser, there's an excellent html resource at the
following URL:

http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Internet/WWW/HTMLPrimer.html

  Once you've got your space, all you need to do is fill it with
images, sounds, documents, links or whatever tickles your fancy.
                              -Will





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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 21:22:27 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: bookmarks

Congratulations - we're part of the crowd that has discovered that design. Joan
Homewood also "claims" it.... Natty design 'ain't it? Clear text as well.

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****
          www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/Origami/BOS/nickdata.html





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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 21:22:53 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: uuen/decode

I realise those without the above facility won't want the list clogging with
code, but if we get a PD decode prog on at Maarten's ftp site, everyone could
get it. A size limit could be decided and people could prefix all titles with UU
so they could be screened out if not wanted.

A separate mail list is a possibility of course, but would need someone to run
it..

Thoughts anyone?

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****
          www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/Origami/BOS/nickdata.html





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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 21:42:25 -0300
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: WEB PAGES

>
> does anybody know of any "free" software to design your own web page? if so,
> could you tell me what it is.
>
I you are running under Windows:

HTML Writer is Donation-ware and can be gotten using your browser at:
ftp://lal.cs.byu.edu
pub/www/tools
The name of the file to get is: hw9b4all.zip

One of the best but it is not freeware (you get to test it free for 30 days)
is: HotDog

ftp.sausage.com
pub/hotdog10.exe

--
Sheldon Ackerman
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 22:59:35 -0300
From: Steve Arlow <yorick@conch.aa.msen.com>
Subject: Re: WEB PAGES

>does anybody know of any "free" software to design your own web page? if so,
>could you tell me what it is.

The nice thing about the WWW is that HTML is really easy
to write, even by hand, and even if you don't know quite
where to start, you can simply look at the source of WWW
pages you like, and copy the pieces you want to use.

In most WWW browsers, such as Netscape, you select "View
Source" to see the raw HTML.  In Lynx, use "\" to toggle
between rendered pages and raw HTML.

--
 "...the paws of fear upon your chest,  |  Steve Arlow, Yorick Software Inc.
  only love can soothe that beast..."   |  39336 Polo Club Dr. #103,
               -- Indigo Girls          |  Farmington Hills, MI  48335-5634
   (.sig quote contest has been won)    |  http://www.msen.com/~yorick





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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 23:04:29 -0300
From: terryh@lamg.com (Terry Hall)
Subject: Origami Detective

Oops, I did not mean to post Yasuteru Okahashi's address and phone number to
everyone, just Nick Robinson. Please respect Yasuteru's privacy and forgive
my stupid mistake.

Terry Hall





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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 10:45:39 -0300
From: "Londono, Juancarlos (3421)" <J.LONDONO@CGNET.COM>
Subject: THANKs and HTML question

Hi!

I would like to say THANKS A LOT to the people who wrote me some advice
about my origami exhibition, specially Dorinha, Marc K., Jerry H., Bob T.
L., Yusri J., and Vann (Apologize if I omit someone).

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Question...
Where in the net I can found a HTML new version?  I would like to build an
Origami Home Page in spanish as complete as possible...
********

Thanks in advance for your help

Juancarlos

J.LONDONO@CGNET.COM





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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 17:17:10 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: WEB PAGES

In your message dated Monday 7, August 1995 you wrote :
> does anybody know of any "free" software to design your own web page? if so,
> could you tell me what it is.
>
Try HTMLed - it's shareware _ I use it... No idea of a source - do a search.

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****
          www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/Origami/BOS/nickdata.html





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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 17:23:11 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Word Diagrams ; File Transfering

In your message dated Sunday 6, August 1995 you wrote :
> I am talking about more people doing word diagrams in their mail
>
I see - sorry!

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****
          www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/Origami/BOS/nickdata.html





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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 17:24:45 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: A strawberry

> Is this the strawberry designed by Rae Cooker, which appears in Paul
> Jackson's "Origami, a complete step-by-step guide".

It's also in the latest "Le Pli", along with my dish, Brill natty new box &
others...

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****
          www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/Origami/BOS/nickdata.html
